Why DRIFT SHOPS FAIL! ( almost every single time )

[@mikeboyd118]

as a shop owner in Canada. in can relate to you saying "friends are killers of business" absolutely agree! its a business. not a charity. most wont understand.

[@bullitt_eightyseven]

Second that

[@scottex.]

baffles me that people can be such pos and pretend to pay less

[@chrismoher5444]

Exactly

[@spcneary]

Yep, you lose money or break even to help a friend then they tell everyone you do cheap work. Then they want you to fix something for free next time because they sent you 10 people. Then you call them up to help you move and they are busy. I would rather do business with strangers.

[@vintageG1985]

You can make a friend out of a customer 10 times over before you can make a customer out of a friend. I get discounts at many shops because I spent lots of money as a customer often, brought coffee/food often and even helped some shops unload their shipment containers and referred as many people as possible so I do my part to make sure the good shops stay busy so I have reliable shops to buy from. Yet friends think they deserve free to heavy discounts because they crack a few jokes years ago

[@X1XfuryX1X]

Because most shops take on way too much and get paid up front and never deliver. Drift car owners also are the worst clients to deal with. Unrealistic expectations for the cost.

[@LoneStarDrift]

yup lol!

[@TurboV8boi]

especially the last part lol

[@Rudyruinsit]

I agreey

[@X1XfuryX1X]

@Rudyruinsit no one leaves the shop happy. And when they do they never spread the word on good work only the bad.

[@Rudyruinsit]

@@X1XfuryX1Xsome how I maintain five stars on google lol

[@dansouthwell256]

If you wanna go drifting. Either be rich or learn to do as much as possible on your own.

[@Rudyruinsit]

We are leaving those stages it can be an adorable hobby I have the recipe

[@JayCee_1014]

@@Rudyruinsitthank you for that

[@quocd5580]

Buy modern rear wheel drive car. No engine swap. Spend $ on maintenance and repairs first. Make car drift w/ bolt-on affordable parts. Buy spare rim/tires. Drift car at skid pad. Do not daily drive ur drift car unless u got no choice. Avoid sideshows.

[@almightyracing]

Sn95

[@Rudyruinsit]

I agree 💯

[@UmmYeahOk]

@@almightyracinglol, that’s not what I’d consider “modern.” Then again, if you tell people you drive a classic mustang, then people think of some rebodied falcon from the 60s. Though I still appreciate the thought of turning one into a drift car. Is that the new hip car to focus on? It’s so easy to lose the rear end on those. Learning how to control yourself in a skid is definitely a skill worth acquiring. Drifting is an expensive hobby. So I recommend going into autocross first. That should teach you the basics of controlling a car, and has real world applications. Brakes on those are awful. Many don’t have traction control or even ABS. Instead of colliding with a moron who pulled out in front of you, instead of freezing up, you’ve trained yourself to drive around the road hazard.

[@criticalevent]

I'm going to assume this shop exists to subsidise his own drifting, which is how nearly all hobbyist focused businesses start out. When I got into mountain bikes, I opened a bike shop, when I got into paintball, I added a paintball section. I did this mainly to get things at wholesale and to help out my friends. Never had an expectation of making a living at it. I ended up being the only high end bike shop in town for a good number of years and did all right but got tried of the type of customer that attracts. The type of person who can drop $9000 on a bicycle is also the type of person who's got nothing to do all day but beat you down on the price and complain about everything after the sale. He so right about the friend discount thing, everyone expects it and it is impossible to stay afloat doing that.

[@Rudyruinsit]

Correct I’m into it do it well do it the best we can

[@DNightNinja]

If you want to support your friends buisness pay full prices!!

[@ivegonemad]

@@DNightNinjasay it louder!

[@cs2294]

Also you gotta stop finishing peoples sentences man. We know you're smart lol. Let people talk

[@Rudyruinsit]

Lmaooo dead

[@TunaNoKetchup]

That shit was pissing me off, ontop of his long winded questions and tangets... I wanted to hear the other dude talk...

[@Plentymuch12]

He can’t lol

[@smartiesnestle6679]

Honestly, I can’t subscribe it for this reason watched him for years and he never stops doing it

[@blockpartyvintage1568]

​@smartiesnestle6679 he's on Adderall

[@Waywardmobilemechanical]

This video is incredibly valuable for small to medium-sized business owners in the automotive industry. The key takeaway for me is the crucial importance of clear communication with customers, particularly about all associated costs. I also strongly agree with the idea of declining work outside your expertise. It's better to protect your reputation than to risk it for a quick profit.

[@rip_biggie4202]

That goes much further than just automotive business owners. I tattoo and every bit of what you mentioned applies for me

[@spcneary]

KZbin has ruined car culture. When I was in HS if someone had a SR swapped 240 with 300 wheel or a turbo v8 with 450 wheel they were a local legend. These days people are ashamed their car only makes 700 wheel. Bring back reasonable HP numbers and simple builds that don’t break every other outing.

[@TurboV8boi]

Really good episode. I like when the guy said "crappy 240's", you just have to say 240, we know 😂

[@Rudyruinsit]

😂

[@dancearoundtheworld5360]

so much shit caused

[@throttlejesus9506]

Felt personal when he said “shitty KA-t”

[@TurboV8boi]

@@throttlejesus9506 lmao. Yo as long as you like it and it's not broken all the time it's good in my book!

[@YoSuey]

I remember when i wanted to SR swap a 190e a long time ago and a local shop wouldn't touch the project. They're still running 10 years later. That would have probably been a headache and a half.

[@johnnymartinez478]

And if you’re still in The area you would be bad mouthing the shop forever which will hurt their business

[@admintuning]

Rudy has worked on my cars multiple times. Great guy and techs.

[@Rudyruinsit]

🫶

[@jonhailcore]

Aaron on customers is pure gold: "Imagine having the same job, living in the same place with the same woman" for six years :D . Great content as usual. Thanks Rudy for doing this as well.

[@Rudyruinsit]

Haha 😂 yee I may not talk well on camera but I can car

[@02bluehawk]

As a shop owner in the STL area this is all very true. Small things keep the doors open, big things are cool but not what pays the bills. Also that sub thing is a awesome idea

[@Rudyruinsit]

Keep them projects flowing!

[@BallisticBerry]

What shop? I live in the area

[@02bluehawk]

@@BallisticBerry CAL Automotive in St. Charles MO

[@2Large4U]

The first shop I took my S13 to needs to watch this, wasted my money taking it there

[@LoneStarDrift]

I think we all did the first time we took our car somewhere, it is such a painful lesson!

[@JolteonRacer]

@@LoneStarDrift I'm not a drift racer, but I wanted to mod my Civic for a little extra oomph. Complete waste of money returned it to stock and everything

[@2Large4U]

@@LoneStarDrift Thanks man, yeah you're right, lesson learned. Did most all of the work myself and should have done more research when choosing the shop to finish it up. Thanks for the content!

[@NastyNubbz]

I love this so much. THANK YOU for covering this topic in a no nonsense kind of way. Rudy and yourself are such staples in the community.

[@Chino_Drifting]

Only 5 minutes in and this is already great information, so true!

[@Driftaholics-101]

Driftaholics Approved!!

[@thekevinsoucie]

In dfw, Turn 5 Fabrication still does drift stuff. We've slowly transitioned into the commercial world because it's way more lucrative, but still build cages, exhausts, Bash bars

[@DangerNoodlez144]

I didn't even know there was drift shops period lol

[@driftprince3699]

He sounds like an awesome shop owner you can really tell he knows what he is talking about and what’s best for his business and clients

[@Rudyruinsit]

Thank you ❤

[@AbdullaJaafari]

Rudy's the man. That part about friends running away when needing to pay hits hard. A niche field of work like doing drift builds for a living grows from passion and that's where friendship should come in. If you want this work done and can pay, do it and pay full price. If you can't pay, don't ask for the job but still maintain this friendship. Wishing Rudy and the guys at texastiresandparts all the best

[@Rudyruinsit]

Thanks homie for chiming in hope all is well my brother

[@GearedToSlide]

rudy is a class act. really excited to see his new car this weekend.

[@Rudyruinsit]

Thank you 🙏

[@BoyBluRacing]

That wall light messing with the camera :O! Keep up the great videos!

[@Rally_Armaments]

Amazing video and a great break down!

[@leohughes6921]

"I paid you $15,000 and picked out 99% of my own parts and since you worked on it, this car sucks at drifting!!!!" Well, thats what happens when you dont know what you're doing. It sounds like Dan is really trying to save people from themselves. He knows you dont need 500hp to go drifting. He can do that on his cars because it expands his knowledge on what works and what doesn't.

[@MarreroBuilt]

$130 is cheap! A local Japan specialist shop charges $180hr!!! In my city, smh and they are successful.

[@lineageplayer9527]

Does the shop produce good work and prompt communication? If so. The penny is worth it

[@dracorosso7129]

I think the host is interrupting the guest too much. Kind of annoying.

[@extec101]

agree, let the experienced guest speek.

[@smartiesnestle6679]

He’s been doing it for years. It’s never gonna change.

[@cs2294]

So in my opinion drifting is cool and the people in the scene are awesome. That doesn't mean they know anything about business or how to make sure they make money. It's very close to the skate or BMX industry. Same exact parallels

[@JayCee_1014]

Great video very informative for a start to a business this just encourages me to start a business in auto

[@1jzfc999]

Definitely think the fiends thing is correct and also alot of guys that start shops are somewhat backyard mechanic/fabricators with no business knowledge or experience so they start on the back foot then they are always chasing their tail so their issues just compound. Often the skills are there but they are terrible businessman.

[@sethmonteleone8178]

why are you purple? Anyway this stuff applies to almost any performance driving I'd say too.

[@fjm9898]

The wall behind the camera has a purple grid light

[@BOOT]

Shops use your money to learn how to build cars/engines. They need to blow/mess up enough customers junk, to figure out how to not build cars the right way. The smart guys(con-men), close down and re-open after this. R&D on your dime! Seen it happen too many times, all talk/hype & no experience. Seen them get their claws into people and try to drain em dry. I got kicked out of one that a friend worked at, for telling a customer he don't need 4 inch dual exhaust. Cost them money and couldn't go back to get tig welding but it was the right thing to do. Too many salesmen and not enough actual builders in the biz

[@Zilvia33]

I think this explains why Speed shops in general have failed over the past 15-20yrs

[@argarage9882]

Highly recommend Texas tires and parts.

[@rustypotatos]

Shesh thank you guys for this. Wow this applies to every business in life

[@Rudyruinsit]

❤

[@RussellGilder]

"Protecting customers from themselves" feels like a hard learned lesson. Also, $130 an hour labor rate seems like a bargain. I think my local mechanic doing oil changes is like $150

[@dancearoundtheworld5360]

everything dies, just enjoy your time

[@em2attic]

"All your friends are fucking morons!!" I love it 😂😂😂😂

[@chaysendreamz]

Shop owner said, “I tell people no more than I say yes”. I find myself doing the same thing working for myself, and it’s only legit mechanics that ever agree with me on that.

[@6gredlite907]

That overspeaking the owner is getting annoying. It's nice to hear how he runs his business.

[@LifeFlatout]

Rudy seems like a rad dude. Deal with all this daily at our shop. Customer almost get mad when we tell them not to mod the car.

[@Rudyruinsit]

Haha thank you ❤

[@-BlackGold]

Is dangerous to "play" with their expectations, i had a costumer that wanted to full built his brz, he wanted 500whp safely (he never had a car with more than 180whp), and i dont like the oem engine we already blown a forged one, and to do a swap i would recommend to aftermarket ecu, harness, gearbox, diff, rebuilt the ls2, new injectors, pump, coils and spark, in short we would use only the chassi and he dont have the money for that, so to follow your dreams your bank account needs to be bigger than this dreams.

[@LexxD3]

Rudy for Drift Shop president!

[@Rudyruinsit]

Haha

[@JustJoe_media]

I think the biggest problem is that drifting is very niche, and diy is still big in that community. If you were a shop that worked on anything and did basic maintenance for regular people that builds drift cars on the side you might have a shot.

[@Rudyruinsit]

It’s a niche for sure but Texas has a very active drifting community

[@Sc300autogm]

It’s drifting, what more do you need to know? It’s not an essential business but a hobby for a fazed enthusiast.

[@kx7zz]

faction, koruworks, tfworks.. there’s definitely other drift shops in the us

[@MrSony1492]

Nearly everything here translates to other auto Niches , Hotrod/resto shops fail under the same circumstances. Robbing Peter to pay Paul is common after taking too long, with bad estimates, and too many customers in at one time. The details of a door rubber not fitting or making a 60 year old window wind up and down like new will rob days from an estimate, but customers expect it. Too many cars get abandoned as the bill piles up or the shop cant afford to finish whats been paid for. From there its a death spiral, quality is directly related to time and if you or your customer cant afford the time then the product suffers

[@diegomfochoa]

That subscription deal is sick

[@TooLoudBear]

That thumbnail intro is brutal.

[@ASMotorsports]

Good listen. Thank you.

[@lowfiveTX]

Luckily, Justin and TJ with Yoi Kazoku Motorsports here in San Antonio were smart about what they say they will work on when they opened 6 years ago. They are a general auto shop that just happens to work on drift cars. A drift shop couldn't exist, especially in todays economy and especially in San Antonio lol. Drift kids are too poor.

[@drifterwannab]

Good informative vid 👍, don't stop doing these types of videos lol.

[@OEMPlus]

this is why i have a pile of parts on my shelf right now i haven't installed on my GT. I like the car too much right now and I'm not sure I wanna change it. small tweaks over time are best.

[@mikehunt7857]

Why do drift shops fail? Because they built a $150k G35.

[@Rudyruinsit]

Building my own personal cars that are wild has gained me the knowledge to be able to apply it to customer base

[@dancearoundtheworld5360]

you have to work to get exprience​@@Rudyruinsit

[@evoskimo3273]

​@@RudyruinsitDon't listen to a guy named Mike Hunt haha

[@Rudyruinsit]

@@evoskimo3273 noted mike hunt opinion throw it in the garbage 🤣🫶

[@davidconnolly7427]

​@@RudyruinsitAnd it's a damn fun advertisment ! Love the car boss man ! Plenty in Ireland build nuts cars and get know like Darren mc namarra, and James Deane 4 rotor

[@bullitt_eightyseven]

Never want to put the guest budget into the car without shakedowns or you will have more down time because of other parts breaking or you just loose the simplicity of a really good track vehicle

[@johnyim5262]

This aged well. Back to back wins with the $150k G35. 🎉

[@TLCHobbies]

22:52 I know the old 90s Toyotas are plague with leaking capacitors. But the fix is simple. De-soldering and soldering new capacitors will cost around $250 to fix. If a customer is just restoring an old JDM, why bother with aftermarket ECU then? They'll end up paying about $1k for the ECU and another $1k for a new harness.

[@Rudyruinsit]

I’m not here to save money I’m here to protect everyone’s investments and everything gets added sensors for fuel and oil safety strategies to make sure they don’t kill there motors

[@PeTroL420]

Did you guys use a purple LED light as set lighting?

[@timlopina6772]

70% of the work is the research. Plan, plan, plan, execute. Save your money and do it yourself.

[@solaryellowis3007]

This is why my car is being built with less power than i want and it’s being built in my free time in my garage.

[@JustPhilTv21]

How the hell do you put a quarter mil into a G35 ??? 20-30k maybe even 40, but good lord

[@JustPhilTv21]

Actually I went and researched, it’s JZ swapped, nuff said 😹

[@Rudyruinsit]

@@JustPhilTv212j*😅

[@MaxInLasVegas]

Great Video

[@kevinc9934]

"i dont wanna pick on SR customers, but anyone with a pos engine " Lol

[@thebanane8588]

I think half the time people are lying about power figures because nothing can be validated on a video

[@brennanbuck2269]

maybe do more then be a drifting only shop!

[@motow3031]

Too much of everything, back to basics, original Japanese style

[@dreamgarage2966]

135/ hr shop rate? cheapppppppp

[@10Thundershocker01]

Yo 130 and hour isn’t a bad shop rate in Ohio but idk about Texas sounds like it’s on the cheaper side

[@bass_and_bass3323]

Dat boy Rudy 💯

[@Unlimited_Slip]

Let the shop owner speak fully and finish his thoughts, bruv. The interruptions and side tangents are too frequent, and it makes the interview hard to watch.

[@JYates89coupe]

I thought the fdf kit would be in the list of good kits for sure

[@fishingmontana1564]

If you care for a friend you would not ask for a deal you would pay them top dollar and what a man spends his money on is his own business who cares

[@Player-q4c]

Fun to watch this type of video with someone who do not know how to tight bolts and nuts(and I am not about Aaron)

[@johnnymartinez478]

Ya somthing about this guy just seems off

[@ChromecastM8]

Because drift cars are not that special and neither are the drivers.. just open a rac car shop that does everything.. done.. l0l drift shop only differs in that they put more stickers, shitty body kits, unusual camber kits and other stuff.

[@mplewp]

The worst type of clients . The stupidest sport . Dont get me wrong driftings cool . But it kills your car 😂😂😂. Throwing money in a black hole .. .

[@nenesolo3447]

Spencer dash works! Dfw

[@AutoMotoMechanic]

Drifting is lame. That's why shops don't make it.

[@Chino_Drifting]

I'll weld your diff for $80 in Austin Texas, hit me up! lol

[@dale.s13x]

I see a repeating pattern of you not allowing guests to speak or putting your input into. It’s not enjoyable to watch. I’m sure everyone knows you’re involved but I’d rather hear these guys ramble about their business. You interview great people and yet I hear you talk more than them.

[@smartiesnestle6679]

This guy hit the nail on the head with this comment. What did this guy say at the Beginning. Bull Shit, you know you’re just gonna interrupt the shit out of him

[@MsDemob]

The most expensive wheel alignment Ive ever seen ever had from a dedicated motorsport shop was $120! A start price of $300 is craaazy

[@maxre9626]

Our shop works on semi trucks, and we charge 300usd for a 3 axle alignment. 250usd at a BMW dealer is commonplace for a good alignment. A lot of places do alignments, not a lot of places do them well.

[@JonBonazza]

a normal alignment is very different from a motorsports alignment with corner balancing and all. its done by hand rather than a machine and takes hours to do since you’re trying to get every corner perfect so the weight is easily distributed across all 4 corners

[@Rudyruinsit]

Spot on Jon!

[@TooLoudBear]

How many comp wins do have?

[@corex72]

Bro, every time you make a video it’s got some bullshit negative headline, I’m kind of over it bro. And usually these podcast too long and it’s just you trying to get a gotcha moment out of them, so just give up.

[@JordyX8]

$130usd is insane per hour! No motorsport specialist is worth more then $90-$100aud an hour and that full wiring and fab work so roughly $60-$70usd an hour. Same as tuners who charge $1000usd for a day for a tune and finish it in 4hrs. You ain’t seeing that other half day refunded cause if they can pump 2 cars out in a day, charge 2 customers for a day each and take a day off. Or pocket an extra $500 and never return the benefits to the customers who fund the lifestyle they live. None of these dudes seem to remember that most people are lucky to make $900-$1200 a week. Insanity. Don’t @ me, you’re wrong. I’ve been around Motorsport shops and fab shops for over 10yrs and more often then not your paying for FB scrolling time and the workers lunches especially in small 1-3man operations.

[@Rudyruinsit]

I can guarantee your business would not last with that model. The average rate you’ve never paid shop insurance or employees to probably have an opinion, but thanks for checking in

[@aaron_z3383]

What a tire kicker. Your post really shows you have no idea what you’re talking about. I am not specialty fabricating or welding anything for less than $100hr. You’re also paying that tuner for his experience along with the service.

[@evoskimo3273]

Dude, regular mechanics cost $100-$150 an hour in the US so $130 an hour is pretty standard. Not absurd at all

[@JordyX8]

@@Rudyruinsit the concept of a drift shop is the problem in itself. Drifting costs pennys to real motorsports dollars. Have a wiring or fab shop you can charge for those specific trades and speciality’s but trying to base a shop around a grassroots Motorsport is stupid. Most shops that exist here specialise in one or 2 things which creates an industry or pushes people to KZbin university to teach and learn your own skills.

[@Rudyruinsit]

@@JordyX8 well we been healthy and surviving for 6 years my business is just not drifting cars the other half is chassis setup for drag cars we live in the land of opportunity so creat the vision you want and chase it

[@R3LLIK24]

Boring

[@cptbuiltk7944]

RIP PSI oregon