Why efficiency matters to car owners and car makers alike | Deep Drive Podcast Ep.13 | Autocar India

[@autocarindia1]

Chapters: 0:00 - Introduction 1:20 - Certified fuel economy 4:25 - CAFE targets 11:10 - Upcoming regulations and impact 14:21 - Turbo-petrols 16:05 - The right fuel matters 17:50 - Calibration 20:10 - Cars are becoming fuel inefficient 21:04 - Diesel 23:15 - Ethanol 24:20 - Gas guzzlers 25:05 - Autocar India fuel efficiency tests 27:33 - EVs and efficiency

[@74osho]

@autocarindia1 Hormazd, if you gonna sport a sports coat, you need to ensure your shrits have the right collar and especially sleeves long enough that the cuffs extend at least half an inch out of your jacket sleeve. Else, just throw on a damn Polo T.

[@hormazdsorabjee6448]

@@74oshothanks for the fashion advice 😀 will try and dress better 👍

[@shreepads]

For the EV equivalent of "fuel guzzler" you could use "joule guzzler" - rhymes a bit and rolls off the tongue more easily than KwH... Nice episode, but now you've scared me off turbo-petrols...

[@shotray]

This Hormaz guy is gold mine of information. He should speak more often in podcasts.

[@VS-kg5qn]

This series has been a super favourite to me. These discussions are giving more insights into the automotive world, the business decisions the companies are taking and also it is having an effect on me into taking decisions on my next car purchase. Please keep this podcasts alive or with even more episodes per week with some insider stories and all and some interesting topics

[@sundarrajn1003]

EV is not practical if you don't own a house with parking. Which majority of people in cities do not. Hybrids are the way to go.

[@moinpanwar]

Thank you for starting these Podcast, absolutely love them! You get to learn something new every Saturday. This has become a part of my Saturday routine

[@sandeepkadam7982]

If hybrid cars is the way ahead why governments are not promoting them by reducing the taxes???

[@anubhavmohanty1736]

Because they want to gain profit from electric and petrol cars

[@sushantdeshmukh4854]

Because of EV vehicles

[@prathameshbirajdar8778]

Where they ll get election funds from??

[@keshavsakthi546]

An obsession with EVs seems to the case

[@kedartulsulkar7995]

Tata,M&M lobby

[@RoosheshMotiwallaOfficialPage]

nice to hear. one of the 1st place which actually acknowledges average speed in important while calculating real world fuel efficiency. fyi my average speed in mumbai stop and go route during peak hours is 12 kmph.

[@falconheavy6774]

Can you guys please discuss about the rising popularity of GDI engine and the problems that comes with it like carbon buildup and how to deal with it.

[@farainyika2365]

they did this in the last podcast already

[@innqubus]

These podcasts are so awesome from Autocar and with Hormazd in the driving seat. He is a treasure of knowledge for petrolheads like us☺

[@Ananthakrishnanaji]

Just to make it clear, VW 2.0 group cars's (1.0 & 1.5) mandated fuel is 95 octane. Same for XUV3XO TGDI. This is something many are unware of. 91 octane is effectively killing these engine by knocking.

[@nishanthmusica]

My Ford Aspire(D) 2017 : still gives 23-28KMPL tested multiple times! (Full to full tank - dashboard Mile counter) Tyres upgraded - 185/70 R14 instead of 175/65 Tyre pressure: Manufacturer recommend - 28-30(2 people) 30-34(3-5 PPL) but I will make it 40PSI everytime! AC : 22°C AUTO __sometimes 15°C @blower 3-4 level! Window tint : 50% UV blockage type Windshield tint : no tint Backshield tint : no tint Diesel: BPCL stations No of passengers: atleast 3+(75+58+110Kgs) full luggage in the boot(320Lts-mostly family trips) Engine oil: semi synthetic 5W-30( @Ford service) Speed : down slope highways -90-110KMPH depends on the flow..with minimal throttle as possible.(g effect) Flats & ups highways -constant minimal throttle- try to boil the engine (70-90KMPH) City(down and ups) - no rapid throttle moments and switch off the engine if the braketime is 45+ seconds.. Braking - planned with no throttle on 5th gear till it reaches down to 40-45KMPH then hold the clutch>>N & brake(usually at tollplazas & animal crossings) ; City roads - No plans 😂! Awaiting suggestions like.. suicide/burn/F the car..or some romantic replies 🥳😂😁🚘

[@johngalt7159]

The last line though 😂😂

[@punekarman3207]

I think your driving style is commendable and so is the vehicle. I won't suggest at all anything that you wished folks would, as can't afFord to lose a nice driving machine that's a Ford!

[@nishanthmusica]

@@johngalt7159 🤣🤣🤣

[@vineethphilip4481]

The biggest loophole in the cafe system is that it doesn’t account for CO2 generated as part of production. This gives the illusion of EVs being more efficient, whereas the amount of CO2 generated in the production of the battery is completely ignored.

[@vikramrghanekar]

Love your podcast. My dad has been a subscriber of your magazine since its inception, (It used to be Auto India before Autocar India) so I have grown up reading the magazine. One thing have noticed over the years is that the number of cars that you have tested for efficiency has gone down significantly. Most of the times the data contains only the figure for Indian driving cycle. I understand it's a tedious and time consuming process. But it would be great extremely helpful if you expand your range (no pun intended) on this front, including the EVs as well.

[@humairaalam6664]

Dear mr. Hormazd and mr sergius, thank you for another wonderful podcast.

[@sergiusbarretto]

Thank you !

[@Nationalist932]

I think best is to have a plug - in hybrid with battery capacity/ efficiency for range of 60 to 100 kms on full charge. It will fulfill requirements of daily commutation for office goers in cities. Rest the ICE engine to take on when driving beyond 50 kms of range in a day or as per choice of driver. Here the overall fuel efficiency of a vehicle will definitely improve.

[@shresthsonkar9207]

Boot space will suffer so ultimately it will be worse for road trips whereas the initial goal itself was to use EV in city but ice on highway The real question is a cost benefit analysis between building infra (long term vision, generates active revenue) vs subsidies for PHEV (short term vision, doesn’t generate revenues from same money pool

[@Motoring_With_Manas]

The thing about ethanol blend fuel is don’t like is that even with that loss of fuel efficiency the petrol engine with E20 feels sort of lathargic

[@satanandanprasad8809]

Switching to EV is best if you have own parking. Most travels are within 200km. Highways are full of fast charging for an occasional long drive

[@khangjim9879]

Middle class people cannot afford EV in the long run. It gives me anxiety seeing EC car on highway

[@atulmalhotra2303]

The premium on EVs is a bit of an issue for lower income groups. There is no decent EV at 5 lakh rupees.

[@sivakumarbalasubramanian5925]

Funny car decides destinations

[@meetankush]

@@atulmalhotra2303and there are decent cars under 5 lacs? Which ones?

[@smarty007shekhar007]

​@@atulmalhotra2303Alto is the only option in 5 lakh, you want an EV in 5 lakh, there is MG Comet Ev that starts under 7 lakh and tata tiago is also coming under 8 lakh. Value for money for sure

[@nirmallyabanerjee]

Too good discussion on every week, to know automotive better. Thank you!

[@mastroes]

Great to watch these videos.. with technical insights.. very difficult to get these info for normal people ❤

[@sergiusbarretto]

Thank you !

[@vijishsingh4527]

Favourite senior Auto journalists with great in depth Auto Gyan keep it coming don't stop u could consider adding others from your staff from time to time👍

[@shant756]

Best pod so far! Loved the technical insights. Won't mind if it gets even longer and in depth

[@vijaymadanu4166]

Thanks for bringing this topic for us Sirs!!, never knew there is so much happening behind the efficiency subjects of vehicles. eye opener indeed, .Look forward for more !! thank you Gentlemen!

[@karthikeyanp-px6jj]

Cafe explanation clearly shows what would be the future strategy for manufacturers.

[@goodtimes5483]

Good topic. You are correct about the turbo charged petrol but in some cases Virtus GT plus MT gives a good mileage. I am a sedan or a hatchback lover since in my budget these cars fits and they are good to drive . SUVs like Creta, Taigun are not real SUVs. Some craze is driving the sales. I own a Virtus GT plus MT since I don’t like automatics. In a speed range from 72 to 89 the mileage I receive is around 17 to 22 kmpl . Previously I used to drive a Ford Figo 1.5 titanium plus diesel.

[@subratabn]

Great podcast! Please make another one that delves deeper into 'energy efficiency' of EVs.

[@vishalsinha1670]

Great topic and an engaging discussion. Fuel efficiency will continue to remain the core of a car buying decision for millions.

[@heshamalam7193]

Look forward to a podcast on lube oils used in modern automobiles (synthetic, semi synthetic, mineral oil based) as well as lube oil standards like api ck 4 (usa) and acea e8 (europe) including present and future standards for India

[@joshakh]

I have been following autocar magazine since 2010, @autocar .. off late I have seen you guys are not updating the figures for interior width, legroom, headroom etc .. also 0 to 100 timings etc .. in the tables at the end of the magazine .. Hope you update them in coming editions

[@autocarindia1]

Feedback noted :-)

[@QuickUpshifts]

About fuel types E10/E20 and XP95(blended with 10% Ethanol) of Indian Oil - In my daily driving experience I have noticed that E20 gives lesser fuel efficiency that E10 for a BS6 car. XP95 is cleaner but giving same efficiency as E20 fuel. Also the pertol pumps operators don't have enough knowlege that if you have a BS4 car the go to fuel recommended shoud be E10 but when you reach there you have a long queue of 2 wheelers on that machine. Hence in a BS4 car if you fill E20 fuel it can't give the required efficiency. As indian automotive customers we are not getting the right fuel efficiency as the fuel filled is not upto the mark as it includes ethanol plus some adulterations.

[@pratikpatil681]

@autocarindia1 Thank You for such amazing podcasts. Today’s video is helpful and informative, specially the stuff related to the TSI Turbos

[@amaljoe367]

I saw one ioc pump with both e20 and regular petrol. I asked the person who was filling petrol - he said he didn't know the difference and both are the same. Will old cars get damaged with e20 fuel?

[@TheZenith790]

yes

[@anujahuja2265]

Even the price is same for both

[@keithsequeira9860]

Yeah so e20 is more corrosive than regular petrol. Your engine will be damaged unless and until it is specified by the manufacturer that it is safe to use

[@keshavsakthi546]

Yes there is a high chance that overtime the tank, fuel lines, injectors and what not will wear out

[@atulmalhotra2303]

It's a bit of a scam I think. One HP petrol pump owner told me that petrol being sold at all HP pumps (Punjab he meant) is now E20. I asked him why they don't display it prominently. He said the company doesn't allow that yet.

[@trilokgautam1322]

Can we have some podcast related to Mitsubishi, their vision for India to bring cars?

[@shyam4wd]

Does reducing aircon temp result in better efficiency considering Cold Air ~ Hot Air temperature balance is maintained by introducing hot air from coolant pipe rather than reducing ac compressor load. Are modern cars finally using load reducing compressor? (inverter type as in homes) would request Autocar team to please confirm on this :)

[@BharatSudhirRastogi]

Is it wise to buy diesel now ? Are they at risk of being fazed out ? Already 10 yr life in Delhi-NCR !

[@venkatbhanub6957]

An Eye opener conversation ... looking forward for more such insightful information.

[@pareshnw]

Please make podcast on ford ecosport. and it's engines . TDCi, ecoboost and NA. I know ford has exited the market. but that car is an emotion . In India FORD=Ecosport.

[@gmbk779]

Sir did you check the efficiency of Tata Nexon for the BS6 engine...??? or can I get the KZbin review ....???

[@Unbox_Lifestyle_]

Hormazd, you are a University. Respect 🫡🫡

[@MrKshitij]

Another informative session. Thanks for this. A few thoughts. 1. Will Ola Electric become the carbon credits seller of India like Tesla of USA. 2. Does mild hybrid account for in CAFE norms? If yes, it will become a necessity in 2027. 3. If all cars have to have at least a mild hybrid system from 2027, then it’s not a good time to buy a new car until then.

[@shresthsonkar9207]

CAFE is for manufacturers not buyers

[@dighiejamwal]

Bhaiyo ek simple si baat ka jawaab chahiye ... agr apko driving ka maza hi nhi lena hai toh gadi ki jgha public transport lelo .... ussey environment achi trha bach skta hai. ... industrial waste se global warming nhi ho rhi hai but gadiyo ki wjha se ho rhi hai .. waow ..... hypocrisy ki b ek limit hoti hai

[@anantbambawale9276]

EVs are good but in India where there is load shedding in most parts charging can be a challenge. In some places diesel generators are used during load shedding and if this is used for the charging of EVs the same should be factored in the calculation of CAFE. For India in my opinion Hybrid is a good choice.

[@Razique_Khan]

What a lovely podcast deep drive into every aspect. As i already make a request to Podcast on #HondaCarsIndia . ●Why HONDA sell strong hybride on #HondaCity despite that sedan segment is very niche now-a-days in India rather than #HondaElevate ? ●Why HONDA don't introduced turbo engines here in India ? ●Why HONDA do not lanuched sub 4m SUV. Breeza, Nexon segment ? ●What are their plans in India?

[@Geo_Economy_Asia]

They will pack up their bag soon from india

[@uditnarayan9489]

@18:15 i wish you were right right here sir! but people are only willing to sacrifice fuel efficieny talks only when it comes to a heavier built 5 star rated car and not a better driving car! people who drive well are significantly lower in numbers than people who just drive on ok on weekends. otherwise good driving cars from ford chevorolet and now citroen wouldnt have struggled. people know nexons bad FE but still go for it just cuz of its 5 star safety ratings even tho its engine is so very unreliable. now that i have seen you talked about CAFE ratings, it is even more clearer to me

[@manjulchoudhary]

Great podcast! Love listening to them.

[@AsadHusain1991]

I don't see any impact of climate control on fuel efficiency. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong?

[@MrDrone-qt6sw]

No one cares here either gov or company everyone here to loot money 😂 gov why cant it reduce tax on hybrids they dont simply its time pass

[@raziabdulrahim3042]

Efficiency means less fuel burnt for a trip,, which equals less co2 produced

[@sandeeprani704]

@@raziabdulrahim3042 👏

[@kamalchoudhury2910]

if the roads are bad no technology can give better fuel efficiency...

[@bubulmallick846]

Thanks 👍 Long Run Engine Maintence by Using Ethanol Blended Petrol ⛽

[@debjyotiroy2799]

0 to 60 on battary n fuel beyond 60kmph is the need of the hour. At affordable prices for mass usage.

[@ddr57]

Very informative podcast!

[@shantanu_d]

Excellent info, looking forward to the FE tests. The protocol is sound.

[@vampire198014]

Fuel efficient cars are less polluting... so Indian mindset was always enviromentally friendly....

[@aravindbhargava1651]

Due to E20 petrol the plastic and rubber parts inside the engine will get melted and engine issues will occur. Before 2023 vehicles will be facing issues until some internal changes are made inside the engine. By god's grace my vehicle TVS Raider is E20 compatible engine

[@Channel-y7m]

TPMS should be mandatory for safety reasons just like seat belt and air bags.

[@gs150r]

Love these Podcasts!!

[@Newbutold]

1L TSI on 95 octane gives 10-11 kmpl in city and 16-18kmpl on highway with a fe enthusiastic revvs in between

[@vamshikrishna9598]

I think the best solution for VW is to manufacture plugin hybrid in India.

[@mrigankaligira7024]

Sir, I am confused which car should I buy. Bolero Neo N10 or Grand Vitara Delta. Please help me with the best advice.

[@TridibIndia]

Buy 3xo

[@saurabhaloriya3950]

Does Astor need Octane95 fuel due to its high compression engine although it is not a turbo?

[@santhoshpjohn]

I owned 2024 diesel seltos, with spirited driving iam getting 17-18 km/l cannot get in turbo petrol in seltos

[@shreyasrao4260]

Is hybrids only solution?. I mean if a car company has only hybrids and no EV can it meet cafe 3

[@shresthsonkar9207]

They will have to sell more hybrids than a brand with EV will have to sell EV For example Tata may need to sell only 2500 EV per month in order to get same benefit as Toyota selling 3000 hybrids

[@KruthikNandan]

Why not diesel hybrid??

[@nayakh]

ICE cars are becoming way more inefficient with every passing year... Car manufacturers are compromising with the quality of the car body to make it lighter to improve fuel efficiency. Car safety and build is more important than fuel efficiency

[@atulmalhotra2303]

Wgat happebed to the Maruti series hybrids ?

[@sanketjain9320]

For ev, people will only be concerned about cost and range, not efficiency. Hope batteries dont get too cheap so that it's automatically factored in!

[@ranjithtouchriver]

I think the manufactures need to bring more EV s in the 5-10 lakh price range so that EV adoptiones will be higher

[@budhaa]

I liked this informative podcast.👌

[@parthgohel5116]

I hearby coin the equivalent for "Gas Guzzler" for EVs, "Watt Waster" 🤣

[@drsanjeevanpawar]

Hybrid topic is missed sir

[@Aksh-gt3xi]

Indian government should opt for a smooth transition by incentivising Strong/plug-in hybrids, push for EVs all out right now is not the best choice to make since EV industry is at its infancy and still need a considerable amount of time to be a proper alternative to ICE vehicle. Majority of Indian car buyers purchase only 1 car which has to be an all rounder, EV just isn't a mass option for atleast next 10 years.

[@shresthsonkar9207]

Because it takes too much cost space and weight 1. ⁠⁠Already GV/hyry boot loses 100L (350L vs 250L) between hybrid and ice. PHEV will be even smaller boot space, so the idea of using ICE on long trips is moot because boot cannot accommodate luggage for the trip in the first place. Same issue with FCEVs also, long range but no boot space to make use of the range on trips 2. ⁠That’s just the battery, you still need OBC, DCDC, BMS, motor, all of this junk is in the front in ev’s where engine was. You can’t put it in front anymore. Anywhere else and service will be a nightmare. Just look up Camry/lexus battery access, while rear seat has to be ripped open. 3. ⁠All this drastically increases weight, Nexon EV is 70kg more than ICE after removing engine and ancillaries. If you keep it, it will exceed harrier weight (1700kg) just for Nexon. Handling and suspension goes for a toss 4. ⁠Since PHEVs have smaller battery, and mostly no liquid cooling, the battery degradation will be worse than EV. A 250km range Nexon EV is cycled once per week in my 40km per day usage. A PHEV with 40km range will be fully exhausted everyday. I’ll be putting cycles 7x faster on a PHEV which means less longevity. 40x1500 cycles = 60000km. 250x1500 cycles = 375K km 5. ⁠PHEVs don’t have DCFC support, so most of the public charging infra is useless for PHEVs. And PHEVs sales do not improve infra for ev’s because ev’s benefit from fast charging - which PHEVs don’t have - and PHEVs can only slow charge - which is not viable for ev’s. You see the problem here? 6. ⁠Since PHEVs can’t fast charge, on long trips, you’ll have worse mileage than normal hybrid or even ICE. You can charge if you are staying at a hotel overnight but that’s about it. Even in city, there have been times when I’ve charged at fast charger just because I was already at a mall with charger and I can charge while shopping. With PHEV you can’t. You can slow chargers - but that takes 7-8h which you won’t be spending at any mall or parking other than at homes These are just the technical challenges, with the kind of discipline Indians have, they won’t even bother to charge the cars and run on ICE mode which is worse for emissions - same engine hauling 1700kg car vs 1300kg means less mileage and more emissions than ICE model of same car And it’s not we who lack discipline, even the westerners don’t bother to charge either - so imagining Indians doing it is impossible. www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54170207.amp www.transportenvironment.org/discover/plug-hybrids-new-emissions-scandal-tests-show-higher-pollution-claimed/ It’s just not viable for the size, price and the weight of cars sold here. In west, you can downsize the engine from a I6/V8 to I4 (what Volvo did) to save space and weight But the same isn’t possible on Indian cars which are already I3/I4 Mazda put a rotary in the MX30 but that has even more emissions than normal ICE as we all know. Only reason it passed because the emissions of ICE mode aren’t considered in WLTP, only the combined mode emissions are.

[@CynicAtheist]

Why 22C for car ACs? For rooms, it's 26C.

[@shresthsonkar9207]

Car has huge glass area and acts like a greenhouse heating the car more House has much less glass area

[@uaeindi]

Does premium petrols have ethanol blending

[@MrDrone-qt6sw]

With ethanol adulteration they should sell at cheaper prices price 😂but they wont

[@DJRANA.]

jimny is giving me efficiency of 10 in city and 14 on highway, with ac. thats decent

[@Ajayvishnu23]

Good one❤👍🏼

[@JayVaishnav138]

Loved the content ❤one quick question which car you use for your personal daily life apart from reviewing and everything?@autocar hormazd Sorabjee

[@ArunMuralidhar]

Hormaz is Gold

[@birshu1234]

Link for fuel efficiency test figures?

[@autocarindia1]

You may search on the website/Google. A few links here - www.autocarindia.com/advice/honda-elevate-real-world-fuel-economy-tested-explained-429574 www.autocarindia.com/advice/maruti-suzuki-jimny-real-world-fuel-economy-tested-explained-428981 www.autocarindia.com/advice/maruti-fronx-12-amt-real-world-fuel-economy-tested-explained-428970

[@rohitkatre]

Hormazd said, "the larger wheels increase the drag making it inefficient". Guess he was wrong, isn't it? How is a larger wheel have greater surface area? In fact to the contrary, right? I'm not sure. Asking. Or, did he mean wider instead of larger?

[@hormazdsorabjee6448]

Yea meant wider 😊 but typically larger wheels are wider and taller and both impact drag.

[@sergiusbarretto]

Larger wheels have a bigger contact patch with the road, which means more rolling resistance and thus less fuel efficiency.

[@gowthamudhay2836]

super podcast

[@r3vant]

Very informative.

[@amalinprince]

What brands like JEEP will do?

[@aadityaacharya4]

Kindly discuss safety hazard because evs don't make any noise. Witnessed 1 accident in my society due to "no noise" of an ev. Should manufacturers have some fake sounds to off set this? 🤔

[@shresthsonkar9207]

Is it completely due to lack of sound of is it an accident which would still have happened if the person was driving ice vehicle Remember that 98% of car sales are still ice. So accidents happening purely by virtue of being electric is very low. Chances are if you replace the EV with ice, the same accident will still occur because of Indians being absolutely unconcerned with road safety

[@CuriousSeeker09]

Make phev with small engine like K10. At least Mahindra should.

[@HC_15819]

In Canada 91 octane is still the premium fuel and it's extremely rare that you would get anything better than that 😂

[@sanketnarkar3381]

Wouldn’t EVs make more sense if our electricity production is carbon efficient?

[@pranay220]

Turbo petrol/diesel for highway and ev for city

[@TridibIndia]

CNG for highway and electric on city.

[@M4NA5]

Suzuki India don’t have any EVs planned either in their portfolio for 2027 and beyond. Be interesting to see how low they’re willing to compromise build quality of their cars to further lighten them up for meeting CAFE III targets. Ford will be one to keep an eye on. Their EV platforms are some of the most mature in the world, and I hope they bring good ICE and EV cars to the Indian market.

[@keshavsakthi546]

But hybrids are close in terms of credit, they will just push smaller hybrids. Remember they are passing cafe right now, so more hybrids and cng sales would offset whatever stricter norms are going to be coming. I believe they will also make a play to push more cng in the commercial segments

[@shresthsonkar9207]

They do have evx slated for 2025

[@disciplinedwarrior]

I think government should wait for mahindra tata to develop hybrid cars before reducing taxes on them.

[@ejajahmed5796]

I think Mahindras have to close their shop with commencement of CAFE 3.

[@ksivasankaram]

I have seen three episodes in which you talk about mileage/efficiency and was keenly looking for your observations on GDI engines. I was disappointed to realise you did not go anywhere near those engines. There is much publicity on failure /problems with vehicles fitted with GDI engines. I find it difficult to accept/believe. Secondly you like laymen compare F.E of E20 fueled vehicles with regular petrol vehicles although you make a mention of low energy density of e20 fuel. It is improper to do so because low mileage is not a result of blending but because of lower CV of ethanol( nearly half that of Petrol). In some episode it is worth reviewing GDI status in the country as well as world wide.

[@anirbanab310]

Indian Government policies in automobile sector are confusing. They want people to buy more, but heavy taxation They want EV, but no charging infrastructure development They want Fossil fuels to phase out, but there is no alternative to it. They want Hybrid, but no promotion They want hydrogen fuel cells cars, but no commitment towards hydrogen fuel generation and storage. End of the day, it's the common people who will pay the price and these ministers will fill their pockets and live thenrest of their miserable life in AC rooms, laughing at us😅

[@rajarshighosh8813]

Country like India who are producing majority of electricity by burning fossil fules (coal or diesel) .. How much the actual co2e has been reducing by running an ev? Eventually they are charged by electricity produced by fossil fuels.

[@shresthsonkar9207]

Immediate benefit is better aqi in cities Power plant are still working during covid but see how much better the air quality was much much better.

[@vishalbarthwal]

Is electricity available in india. How is 90%. + Electricity produced In india. Will charging points have electricity.. Bogus

[@Apuroop4life]

New Maruti Baleno returning just 11 Kmpl. Not a good car for efficiency.

[@trilokgautam1322]

Hydrogen is also good to fuel, why are we not moving to hydrogen instead of EV?

[@shresthsonkar9207]

Even lesser performance than cng Even less boot space than cng Costlier infra than dc fast chargers ($20,000 for fast charger, $2 million for hydrogen pump, not including the land cost) EV is available from ₹10L to 10cr hydrogen is still very costly due to usage of metals like platinum palladium in fuel cell and carbon fibre Kevlar in tanks

[@gautammannam4884]

v good information ..love autocar podcasts

[@sankuM]

Every weekend, we have DEEP DRIVE in so many interesting topics!! @@autocarindia1, continue the same! Sometimes it feels Mr Hormaz doesn't necessarily allow other person to answer questions/ talk much!! maybe I only feel that.! Honest feedback! :) @sergiusbarretto

[@rishi1971]

As a person owning Diesel cars since 2004, I prefer diesels for their drivability, and efficient operation. Petrols are a different character, and you tend to maintain higher speeds unknowingly probably due to the engine smoothness and tendency to increase revs with a constant throttle opening.

[@dhavalincredible]

These are really amazing podcasts to hear! Please don’t stop.

[@autocarindia1]

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[@GhostRider-sz9eo]

Why do there is absence of diesel hybrids or range extenders with it. Diesel range extender/hybrids wd be way better than petrol ones for efficiency sake and emissions too can be controlled better as range extender requires it to operate at optimum level!!

[@_shreyash_anand]

Cost. Diesel engines are more expensive than petrols. And then you add another propulsion system on top of it. The same car will be 40% more expensive. Might as well get an electric car at that point. They are the best automatics anyway

[@shresthsonkar9207]

Hybrid increases mileage no change in emissions Hybrid diesel would still make same amount of particulate when running on engine Further diesel is already 1-2L costlier than petrol And hybrid is 4-5L costlier than petrol itself Overall nexon EV which costs 15L and nexon diesel AMT which costs 13L will end up costing 20L for diesel hybrid You can buy 8L Tiago EV and 12L Brezza for cost of one nexon diesel hybrid

[@jerinpjohn5140]

But I personally feels that diesel hybrid cars price can match with petrol hybrid cars price which is nearly 25lakh.