Everything you need to know about automatic transmissions | Deep Drive Podcast Ep.27| Autocar India

[@autocarindia1]

Chapters - 0:00 - Introduction 1:25 - India's first automatic 2:55 - AMT - Automated Manual Transmission 11:25 - iMT - Intelligent Manual Transmission 12:40 - DCT - Dual Clutch Transmission 17:48 - AT - Automatic Transmission 26:21 - CVT - Continuously Variable Transmission 31:30 - EV transmissions 32:07 - eCVT 33:30 - Best and worst auto gearboxes

[@vyshakreghukumar995]

This podcast was mostly 4-wheeler focused, and missed out some notable 2-wheeler milestones. 1. Scooters used to primarily be geared till the 90s. It was the Kinetic Honda and majorly the Activa that wiped out geared scooters from our market. It was the CVT transmission that played a major role there. 2. In 2009-10, TVS introduced the Jive bike with cluthless manual. Don't know why, but this model failed in the market. 3. Honda uses the DCT gearbox in Goldwing and Africa Twin, as well in other models like the NX750. 4. Most recently the Yamaha announced that the MT-09 would feature the AMT system.

[@kratikmandloi3038]

I really appreciate these podcasts. Many a time these episodes take back to the memory lane and makes us feel nostalgic.. I would suggest AI Team to include real world mileage / Power consumption of vehicles in their vehicle test drives/ tests and also the cost of ownership i.e. from the point of view of service cost etc. (Because these days a vehicle is not a vehicle but a bundle of product and service offered) of each model so reviewed . This will set you and your reviews apart

[@Raj-nh3fc]

Very soon vehicle is not simply a vehicle but a big interactive screen with four wheels and with a mind of its own.😂

[@lagankhurana]

In my experience, Torque converter is the best gearbox it doesn't have the rubber band effect of CVT(great on highways) and doesn't have the jerkiness of Dct on slower speeds.Also gives mechanical orgasm which the cvt doesn't have.

[@jamesphilip]

Please can you do a podcast about AWD RWD etc

[@Raj-nh3fc]

CVT is definitely better than AMT as long as it is not made by Nissan, or Honda. Toyota's CVT is bomb sure, very reliable and well made. They use them in their lexus too. Between my wife's Toyota Auris cvt and my Mazda CX5 torque converter, I notice no difference while driving, they both are smooth and totally disappear in the background of driving.

[@nitinmodi6675]

Honda and Toyota and Nissan and Suzuki world over using CVT from close to two decades and smootness and driving comfort for normal car user in city or highway or hill drive.Out Of india Europe ,Middle east,african countries and even part of USA too.Only enthusiast who want to Rave the car 120 plus and want insane instant power requirement shoul go for manual only automatic is not for them.Toyota world no 1 car manufacturer from decades using CVT for whole world car buyers CVT in those market where manual transmission is not in use from 1. 5 decades.

[@autocarindia1]

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[@charishraju]

You forgot the DCM Daewoo Cielo from the mid 90s which came with an automatic option

[@svijaymba]

What is u r take on DSG which are VW 2.0 still reliability is an issue If we compare with TATA DCA or HYNDAI DCT are they all imported gear box ? Or make in India

[@RahulNagelliPlus]

Torque converter is the best

[@karthee2459]

Thank you Teacher's for this beautiful podcast. Thankyou Maruti for bringing AMT into the mass market, Iam loving my wagon r AMt on a 1.2cc engine, headnods yeah it's making me awake on road sometimes and it acts like a safety feature too

[@vspatmx7458]

My simple method is Fix a budget..with Flexi and then Test ride and buy Based on needs For our huge extended family It always boils down to Merc Bmw toyo honda Kia hyundai Sometimes it's not a fun car but then it brings comfort suspension or practicality which a beefier performance car can't slot in. Engine performance and control transfered to the steering and or suspension ride Gets the priority No one buys a car for a specific gear box

[@charishraju]

PDK “Porsche-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe”, which translates to Porsche double-clutch transmission. So, it's the Porsche version of the dual-clutch gearbox!

[@Raj-nh3fc]

The AMT or automated manual transmission is one of the worst transmission with 100% failure rate. Give it 2 to 5 years and it always predictably failed. Our car was the Toyota Aygo a small city car with AMT. What failed was the hydraulic mechanism or actuators or solenoids that shifted the gear for you. It was cheap to produce, expensive to maintain and terrible in function with head nods, slipping gear mechanism, no creep function, lurchy behaviour and a guaranteed failure. After having changed the first actuator after 5 years of ownership and still under Toyota Guarantee, it again started playing up with gear being stuck in park, lurchy behaviour, 3 years after the renewed acctuator and we knew what was coming, so we got rid of the car. Never another AMT again! On the side issue AMT or AMT like automated manual transmission is used in many high end trucks like Volvo, Scannia etc wiyhout much problem. So why did it fail in cars?

[@vasudevmullapalli4864]

Gearboxes have been explained in a lucid manner. Lots of information. It has enhanced my understanding of automatics. The future is definitely automatics.

[@parthppopat]

My 2011 AT corolla altis jerks from 1st gear to 2nd gear, toyota says change engine for 3lakh, 20. Depreciation alone has car valued at 4. 😅

[@melwynphilips856]

Thank you for the transmission masterclass. Looking forward to what next Saturday. Thanks again..

[@ajitpalsinghjudge8019]

In a nutshell, both of you gentlemen have done a wonderful job in breaking down the jargon. Cheers & keep up the great work 👍🏼👌🏼

[@taranshupattnaiktp3335]

Tata Motors should have CVT as an option in cars like Tigor, Punch and Altroz as well as Nexon too..

[@pk6277]

No. First commercial Automatic car was CIELO from DCM Daewoo in Y 1996.

[@navajitkhound1900]

are VW 2.0 cars like Virtus GT with DSG gearbox reliable ?

[@SarvanDhadhich]

I read somewhere that once f1 cars used cvt

[@narendrasistla]

History of automatics go back to the 1950s when Dodge, DeSoto, Chrysler cars had Fluiddrive in them

[@TheLazyWandererMys]

I came to know only today that M800 At came before the Zen. Infact it was only a few weeks earlier someone sent me a reel of an 800 AT, I never knew one existed. And the whole needing of a permit to buy an AT is also new to me. I remember back in 93-94, a lady in Madikeri used to drive a yellow AT Zen. I obviously didn't know head or tail about transmission back then. But I remember the gear stick was different than most car. I just checked with my dad and he did confirm that the lady infact had a physical disability. And by what you said, she probably needed that permit because this was way before 97. All the reviews and all are good, but podcasts like these are so informative . Thanks for putting your time and effort to educate us :)

[@sivanandavelama1136]

VERY INFORMATIVE DISCUSSION FROM TWO EXPERTS ON THE SUBJECT...❤...🙏🙏...

[@samirpatil3121]

I have a BMW X1 2013 model with the ZF 8 speed and a 2.0 d ,quite a nice combination Your explanations are superb 👌 I am a enthusiast in a small way, but I really enjoyed this! Please continue the good work 👏

[@rsrrsr2450]

Fantastic podcast! 👏 This is the kind of highly interesting stuff 👌 I've come to expect from an ACI ❤ podcast (and NOT some celebrity interview - the glamour press can keep that for themselves!) The future of automatics is indeed the single speed reduction gear of EVs 💯, but my personal favourite is the dual-clutch transmission. However, all automatics are becoming more evolved & better suited for Indian driving conditions with every new launch. AMTs & CVTs are the two most disliked autoboxes, but even they are superbly executed & calibrated in the Exter & Creta respectively (both get paddle shifters as well) 👍, for instance. IMTs do have a place in India, as they are a very good inexpensive option for diesel engines (whose clutches are either HARD to begin with, or become progressively HARDER with age).

[@chandermotwani3493]

Brilliant Content as usual. AMT's are pathetic. For mass market CVT's & Torque Converters are the best hands down. Awesome scoop about Volkswagen moving to 8 speed torque converter from AISIN'S 6 speed torque converter being used by many manufacturers👌🏼🤘🏻💯🚗

[@Newbutold]

Bought VW 1L AT because of Torque Converter, CVT in quick acceleration just makes sound and picks up later

[@Irahhtan]

budget oriented customer - the thing that concern me regarding the automatic transmission is its longevity, and its repair cost. Usually in India there is nothing called repair of automatic transmission especially that of CVT, currently the price for replacement of transmission is approximately 4 to 5 lakh. Though during purchase automatic transmission costs nearly 1 to 1.5 lakh over manual.

[@adityaasawale7825]

There should be an aftermarket option to convert manual gearbox to AMT by adding a solenoid kit. Just like aftermarket CNG kit installation. People will go bonkers..

[@Raj-g4l8t]

Which is better between next Honda Amaze CVT (launching Jan 2025) and next Maruti Dzire AMT with z12 three cylinder engine (launching 4 Nov 2024) ? I'm a normal user, mainly for city driving, and quite a lazy guy hence prefer less maintenance machine 🙂

[@hardyk2010]

iMT should be the default choice replacing all standard MTs & be incentivized by the Govt because of how affordable & incredibly convenient it is to the left foot. Change my mind!

[@kalpesh333patel8]

100% technical knowldge & True experience sharing we glad with this type of knowldge all company adverise but no awarness like as your chanel Autocar is geniune chanel Thanks

[@carmaniac1111]

In 1980s UK, the Suzuki Alto SS80 was sold with a 2 SPEED AT which had the same 800cc displacement as its Indian counterpart (aka the first Maruti 800)

[@paulrozario4153]

"Honda" almost ignored in this discussion!!! 🤗😢 Supposed to be very good automatics...🤔

[@rss8400]

Back in the early 90s I distinctly remember one of our acquaintances in Delhi owning an Omni with the slush box. I was in awe back then as the only time I saw automatic transmissions were in a few Tatras in my fathers' unit!

[@shivkumarswamy4000]

Yamaha recently launched automatic bikes in mt09 in upper segment bikes what's ur thoughts in mid segment bikes when can we expect in India . traffic in tier 1 cities is crowed wt ls ur thoughts on it

[@ritangshubhattacharya1654]

I don’t think the IMT deserves the hatred it gets. I drive a Sonet IMT and for me it’s the perfect blend of having the clutch free comfort of an automatic and fun of gear slotting that comes for a petrol head.

[@rajatchindarkar5069]

I think the robotised manual in the Aventador combined with the V12 is what made it a Real Lamborghini. The revuelto is great no doubt but it wouldn't be as RAW as an Aventador

[@Sheela9999]

Superb decision by vw if they bring 8 speed torque converter --- it will give super mileage in city -- it will help chanhe vw image

[@vachan7069]

Also complete ECUs could be made in India from 2027 with all the PLI for Electronics moving from paper to on ground

[@vachan7069]

Its time India gets CVT & DCT be made in India, the Automatics will rule India very fast could be as early as 2025

[@MrNashkk]

Audi has done a wonderful job with DCT on their A4. It’s butter smooth even at stop and go traffic.

[@DeepakSharma-sp8cr]

1.5 dct of VW or 2.0 TC petrol of XUV700 WHICH ONE IS BETTER?

[@vivekchandrakumar8124]

Interesting...I always thought the DCT were the costliest ones

[@krishnagovindav9330]

Please do a video on How to properly drive automatic car in traffic. how to manage or what to do in such condition

[@dhritirajbaruah9712]

Yaayyyy hormazd again. He himself a car magazine.. period .🎉🎉

[@sandeshnigam3391]

Brilliant. This episode gives us a lot of clarity on the transmissions.

[@sandippandor101]

Booked ciaz Alpha automatic. Wait for delivery 🎉

[@prabhankatesar4728]

Please can you let me know as which cars in India have twin clutch

[@manasmanu1456]

After listening completely, Manual is best I feel

[@VESVIETNAMECUSERVICE]

Can we take a moment to appreciate how well this was put together

[@nishchinthnichu]

The A Star came with an amt much before the celario

[@aromalps1368]

Happy that we bought a car with torque converter

[@kunalkunde7744]

Hysterisis is the correct term for rubber-band effect.

[@Iamadisco_dancer]

Curvv DCA is pathetic feels like an AMT

[@supratikroy352]

I remember seeing an automatic M800

[@nishantgurjar7232]

What is gated manual in Lamborghini.

[@sugaritsiraj682]

Nicely explained about the clutch

[@Auto_Factor]

Nice podcast always

[@Amor_fati.Memento_Mori]

Please do more education videos

[@reginaldsardinha4399]

What about AGS? Is it the same as AMT?

[@samrattomar7552]

Excellent Podcast...😊

[@rahulkpillai78]

Very informative video….

[@AllenJohn]

Automatic is the way to go

[@nishanthbpujari7501]

Saturday made perfect

[@kavishjain8742]

much needed podcast

[@nikhil199029]

TC as well no?

[@svijaymba]

Good topic

[@kratikmandloi3038]

1st

[@shailesh3007]

Imt is best No clutch Feel of manual Cost of manual Win win situation

[@GaneshNayak]

I think best automatic would be engine not connected to wheels at all. Have engine run at optimal constant speed to charge small battery and let motors drive the car taking power from battery. Basically strong hybrid is the best automatic

[@deeptweshdm2536]

A bitter fact ...Ignis petrol amt is much refined & faster than Tatas dual clutch

[@GaneshNayak]

Tata DCA on Altroz has so much lag. Probably takes a second from the time acc is pressed and car starts moving.. AMT on Baleno is so refined and quick to respond

[@AshutoshParanjpe]

The CVT's are no fun, DCT/DSG have a bad reputation, AMT are full of jerks and nods, so the TC(torque convertor) are the best bet.

[@StirSir]

🕹️stick is best