Why every iPhone user needs a Synology

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2 жыл бұрын

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Be honest; have you properly backed up the essential data on your iPhone, iPad, and Mac? Things like financial information, your favorite photos and videos, family recipes, and other irreplaceable data that would be nearly impossible to get back if your device was lost, damaged, or stolen. Thanks to Synology, managing all of your valuable data can be easy, cost-effective, and fun! Let me show you what you can do with a Synology NAS!
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@MrMantoko
@MrMantoko 2 жыл бұрын
As an IT guy, I like the way He speaks how great everyhing is ... without actually having any idea of those technologies.
@newkeepon
@newkeepon 2 жыл бұрын
This video is a prime example of why KZbin needs a dislike counter
@ivancajka732
@ivancajka732 2 жыл бұрын
you just got Rosenfelded.
@adriensamuelraj1152
@adriensamuelraj1152 2 жыл бұрын
This video feels like just an easy way to steal views. Why would an average iPhone user buy a NAS server to store their pictures or whatever?
@daviddean4061
@daviddean4061 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to KZbin
@ocelotxp
@ocelotxp 2 жыл бұрын
Figured it out a while ago Basically have iTunes back up to your PC but then tell Windows to remap the folder iTunes uses for backups so that it's using a network drive of your choice
@nuclearfamilies7076
@nuclearfamilies7076 2 жыл бұрын
If I had a dollar for every time he said "Synology" I'd have enough to buy one
@sumitbegwani
@sumitbegwani 2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@nuclearfamilies7076
@nuclearfamilies7076 2 жыл бұрын
@Caramel Craft. The amount of times he said "Synology". But in money.
@brandontech512
@brandontech512 2 жыл бұрын
How u see price?
@nuclearfamilies7076
@nuclearfamilies7076 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandontech512 I actually do have a Synology but it's an older one. It cost me around $400 at the time. I don't think the prices would have changed too much
@soap_1
@soap_1 2 жыл бұрын
$15,000 I would rather pay for apple’s subscription
@vincentraw
@vincentraw 2 жыл бұрын
I'll do a quick calculation: Sinology and 6 hard drives cost around $ 1500. One month of Apple Cloud costs $ 10. At the price of Sinology I would have more than 10 years of Apple cloud. If anything happens to the Sinology hardware it would be my problem. And statistically in ten years something will definitely go wrong. If anything happens to Apple's servers it's an Apple problem that would be solved without me even realizing it. I believe that a solution like Sinology (or any other) is suitable only for those who develop huge volumes of work, in the order of tens or hundreds of terabytes, not for ordinary people for whom 2 terabytes are more than enough.
@AppleReviews
@AppleReviews 2 жыл бұрын
and you even forgot how much for electricity you have to pay using that Synology at home and risk it can catch fire etc.
@kcrafter101
@kcrafter101 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, but is your iCloud backing up a Mac and 3 PCs, two phones photos, running a Plex media server and your home video camera?
@AppleReviews
@AppleReviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@kcrafter101 iCloud will deal well with 10 iPhones - 10 iMacs - 10 iPads and 10 MacBooks - what now? :)
@AdrianEarnshawMusic
@AdrianEarnshawMusic 2 жыл бұрын
One thing to consider, if you stick 6 hard drives in to one of these things you will have 24TB of storage (20TB usable if you use SHR 1). iCloud on the other hand gives you 2TB. So if you do a direct comparison of storage you need to consider the capacity. If you don't have more than 2TB to store then cloud is way cheaper.
@walrusgumboot
@walrusgumboot 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianEarnshawMusic I agree with you, that’s not the argument the video makes. It’s whole pitch is that iPhone users are better to buy a synology nas over paying for iCloud. It’s a bad argument
@jiyanashousehold5315
@jiyanashousehold5315 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, I liked everything you had to say about synology, but I feel you never explained how this could be the replacement for iCloud ?
@reyc8736
@reyc8736 2 жыл бұрын
It’s their sponsor so they don’t care. I will stick to iCloud because I have nothing to lose especially when disasters and break-ins strike and then you wish you have an iCloud.😁
@psycl0ptic
@psycl0ptic 2 жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly. mentions backup; drive; apps; time machine, but nothing specific to make it set it and forget it to backup your iphone. WTF!
@psycl0ptic
@psycl0ptic 2 жыл бұрын
Drive and photos, i guess. doesn't cover everything, like iDrive.
@BraynerBR
@BraynerBR 2 жыл бұрын
yeah he mentioned all devices that are mac and imac, but bever said how to with iphones?????
@cepwin
@cepwin 2 жыл бұрын
As I said in my comment it doesn’t. I see it as more complementary than a substitute.
@AmmarAlameh
@AmmarAlameh 2 жыл бұрын
This is a nine minutes long advert
@matt_timoo
@matt_timoo 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@someonewhocares...2513
@someonewhocares...2513 2 жыл бұрын
Man I missed the dislike button. :(
@jj-icejoe6642
@jj-icejoe6642 2 жыл бұрын
Yes !
@drewbenedict2246
@drewbenedict2246 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@s550days
@s550days 8 ай бұрын
And it doesn’t show how the iPhone backing up to Synology actually works 😢
@Techjunkie51
@Techjunkie51 2 жыл бұрын
Cheapest one I found on Amazon was 228. I pay 1.00 a month for iCloud backup, 12.00 a year. I can backup for 19 years for price of this box 😂
@Davski
@Davski 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 2 жыл бұрын
How much storage? But yes, iCloud is already cheap and for $3/m you can get 200GB with iCloud plus.
@JustCont
@JustCont 2 жыл бұрын
did that even come with hard drives?
@nuclearfamilies7076
@nuclearfamilies7076 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustCont I think it comes with hard drives, but slow ones. If you want faster drives... you guessed it... Pay up.
@Tesseus
@Tesseus 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobweiram6321 i checked and $1 is only for 50gb.... lol
@nishilmalde9007
@nishilmalde9007 2 жыл бұрын
Hate this kind of hard sell! One important factor not addressed is if your NAS burns down with your home or office you are stuffed! At least offline cloud services like Apples iCloud provide security against this with multiple redundancies. Did not hear this in the ad!
@duenben
@duenben 2 жыл бұрын
Because he is not paid to mention downsides of the synology.
@nicholasmoore9229
@nicholasmoore9229 2 жыл бұрын
Nah he totally covered this with the Hyper Recovery it’s an included back up with Synology. However this is a sales pitch for the product with the upfront cost of all this it doesn’t out weigh the cost of paying £0.79 to £5.99 a month depending on what you need.
@MajorMarvin
@MajorMarvin 2 жыл бұрын
Leo Laporte would have a thing or two to say here
@ThurstanHethorn
@ThurstanHethorn 2 жыл бұрын
Something I’m yet to address with my own Synology is to switch from backup to AWS glacier to another family member with a Synology. Sure still not as redundant as say iCloud, but faster for large backups and not open to lockout from service should password or some disagreement with the company end up being cut off.
@BeatBoxBrian
@BeatBoxBrian 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like Nicolas Moore said, it was mentioned in the video.
@joshc4uu
@joshc4uu 2 жыл бұрын
This NAS is 816.00 dollars from Office Max. Include a modest amount of hard drives and that puts you at an equivalent of 10 years of ICloud storage at 2 TBs. 120 a year for 2 TBs really isn’t that bad. I’m sure it makes a great NAS, but the pitch that it makes a good IPhone backup system? Not at all.
@duenben
@duenben 2 жыл бұрын
Plus you have to keep it running constantly. Guess it sucks a good amount of power
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 2 жыл бұрын
@@duenben 200GB for $3 or $36/year with iCloud plus is a great deal.
@bobsykes
@bobsykes 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with all of you. This makes a lot more sense if you’re backing up dozens or hundreds of TB, like a video producer or something.
@walrusgumboot
@walrusgumboot 2 жыл бұрын
This 100% Plus it also offers no protection against fire, theft, flood or any number of other things that could happen to the NAS. Don’t get my wrong, I love having a NAS, but it isn’t a replacement for iCloud backups
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobsykes For video editing storage, you're much better off with an external drive connected via Thunderbolt, since the files tend to be quite large.
@patrikstaron
@patrikstaron 2 жыл бұрын
You pay for the electricity the backup server consumes. That is some cost.
@khahoang649
@khahoang649 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The electricity cost for the whole year might be equal to the iCloud fee anyway 🤣
@cepwin
@cepwin 2 жыл бұрын
I actually own an older Synology NAS and have been very happy with it. However, I don’t think it eliminates the need for cloud or offsite backup. What happens if, G_d forbid, something happens to your home and both your computer and NAS are no longer available? Experts say you need at least three copies of valuable data and one must be off-site.
@guitarpro2006
@guitarpro2006 2 жыл бұрын
I love mine, it also handles my home security cameras, Mac and windows backups, iPhone backups etc.
@RalphLl
@RalphLl 2 жыл бұрын
Just got this same nas! It’s great 👍
@newestappleman
@newestappleman 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. We are running 3 DS1621+ at our school. They all run amazing easy.
@JoshHarrisPhotography
@JoshHarrisPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Synology for my local backups. It's great. But it's major overkill for backing up a phone and you're overlooking that you have to be pretty competent with computers, storage and technology in order to implement it. It's also no substitute for cloud-based backups anyway, so if it's just for a phone it's a waste.
@snorkelfish
@snorkelfish 2 жыл бұрын
These things are $1000. The one he’s showing is $1600. The lowest I’ve seen is $600. The 2tb iCloud plan is $10/mo. That means even at the very lowest synology would take 5 years to pay for itself and is more likely only to pay for itself after 10+ years. And with the way tech advances who even knows if this would be 1. Safe or 2. Effective in that kind of time frame. Unless this product gets under the $500 mark and preferably under the $400 mark it is useless for the average consumer. Maybe good for business, but the regular Joe Schmo? Fogittabout it
@cqjohns
@cqjohns 2 жыл бұрын
You are missing a vital point. Having all your data backed up on a cloud ties you down to rely on someone else's server. Making yourself susceptible to security risks because its out of your hands. A personal NAS gives you all the control, you can make make multiple copies of all your data and even keep the really important stuff offline, if you wanted. Just because it's easy and cheap doesn't always mean its the best solution.
@snorkelfish
@snorkelfish 2 жыл бұрын
@@cqjohns I get that, but having all your data on your own hard drive has downsides too. Hard drives crash all the time and hard drives for NAS systems are expensive to replace adding even more to the cost, and let’s face it, these hard drives aren’t going to last 10 years. It’s just a really expensive option for the average person compared to cloud offerings. I cannot see the benefits for an average person, maybe a company that needs to have several people accessing data on the same drive, but an average person? No way.
@cqjohns
@cqjohns 2 жыл бұрын
​@@snorkelfish Tech does turnover quickly, but I assume we will hit a threshold in the future that will make hardware become easier to transfer or more universal to move around. I will always advise all my friends and fam to have some type of physical form of data, it's like buying insurance, expensive, but could save your ass in the future. As tech becomes more and more incorporated into our lives, personal data will become more valuable.
@snorkelfish
@snorkelfish 2 жыл бұрын
@@cqjohns I agree, and I think everyone should have a physical backup of some sort, but for most people I feel like just a regular external hard drive would suffice. These NAS systems are way to expensive right now. I
@thechemtrailkid
@thechemtrailkid 2 жыл бұрын
@@cqjohns I can guarantee you that Apple is much, much, much better at handling data, ensuring it is redundantly backed up across multiple physical locations, and implementing proper privacy controls than 99.9% of the people who see this video and setup a NAS at precisely one physical location on their network with their ISP provided modem/router/AP combo unit in their house.
@DiscoverWithDima
@DiscoverWithDima 2 жыл бұрын
Don't care that it's an ad, I learned something new about NAS and what they do! Too expensive for my liking though, I prefer SSDs for my own storage solutions. I edit video for my travels and I need a lot of space!!!
@michaelpearson9
@michaelpearson9 Жыл бұрын
Goodluck getting alot of storage on a ssd HDD ive seen them over 22tb per drive cant get that on a single SSD
@cesarsoria9608
@cesarsoria9608 2 жыл бұрын
I have a MacBook, Dell XPS, and bunch iOS devices and I have been considering a NAS for a while now. I like the idea of having data stored locally and privately. I’ve been looking at the DS220+. I do like Synology’s USB copy feature too. Especially for camera and video workflows
@rickardo5027
@rickardo5027 2 жыл бұрын
Great Ad for Synology. I get the part where I need to backup my Iphone but there is nothing in this video about how to do that on a Synology.
@carlosr1176
@carlosr1176 2 жыл бұрын
I have an older 5 bay model. They are great as long as your not sorting terabytes of files on them. As storage for an already sorted library of files, it’s great. Mac compatibility of its tools however is low. They have not updated their apps to work with m1 macs. So the functionality is lower as a result. It also has faster networking speed on a pc. Have not been able to get that speed on a mac yet. I suggest using two bays for ssd storage of all your small files. Those are slow to access on spinning disks. Huge files like movie files or projects can go on spinning drives.
@StefanoAgrotis
@StefanoAgrotis 2 жыл бұрын
The Drives shown at 3:17 are WD40EFAX.. Those are memorable for being a part of the class-action lawsuit because they were marketed for NAS use cases while being SMR drives.
@youwebz
@youwebz 2 жыл бұрын
Other than via Synology, where can get help & assistance with my Synology NAS? I have had one for several years but found info or walk through shard to locate on the interwebs. Thank for the content as always and also any info.
@GypsyRoseDukes
@GypsyRoseDukes 2 жыл бұрын
You are a lifesaver! Thank you for in excellent video reviews! 🥰🥰
@MobbJusticeTV
@MobbJusticeTV 2 жыл бұрын
I'm all for the convenience and security that comes with having a system like this but with all the references to "cheaper than cloud services" and "free backup", the discussion feels incomplete without talking about the cost of the Synology device and the associated drives. How does that cost compare annually when amortized over time compared to iCould, Google Drive and others?
@antik06
@antik06 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if an Apple user has products such as Macbook Pro, iMac and iPhone, I always recommend the only one, the QNAP brand which offers NAS models with Thunderbolt 3 support. That performance is bestial, and their ZFS is in the final the icing on the cake 😉
@4thNebula
@4thNebula 2 жыл бұрын
Would be great to have an understanding of speed with transfers, streaming from, and exporting to, a Synology drive. I have a Drobo 5C (connected vis USB 3.0 to my PC) and get 75-80 MBs transfer when storing data (the optimized version with 10 Gbs card etc.). Would be great to get better than that.
@BryanMiraflor
@BryanMiraflor Жыл бұрын
Storage firm Drobo has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy lol
@benjaminp2405
@benjaminp2405 2 жыл бұрын
Even with all of your positive talk about Synology I’m not finding a single use case where anyone would want it If you’re a consumer and have an iPhone and MacBook, however simple Synology is, it’s always simpler to just pay a couple of dollars a month for iCloud rather than pay a huge upfront cost for hardware. And if you’re a business that needs that much storage (eg. Video production) you probably already have IT knowledge on how to create a custom server
@Ulven3829
@Ulven3829 2 жыл бұрын
How do you make a complete backup of your entire MacBook to iCloud?
@TimoWolf200
@TimoWolf200 2 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree to your comment. There are many use cases for a NAS (e.g. from Synology) for consumer and business either. And why should I create a custom server if Synology has much more knowledge and experience?
@benjaminp2405
@benjaminp2405 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimoWolf200 First if all, please outline a few consumer use cases for a NAS as I can't think of any in which it would be the better option compared to cloud storage such as Google Drive or iCloud. Also, for smaller and non-tech-focused businesses I do agree Synology would be a good option. However, for larger or more tech-focused businesses, you will probably already have the personnel on hand that know how to create a custom NAS (or could easily learn) so you could do it without a middleman such as Synology. It's like building a PC will almost always be cheaper built yourself rather than from an OEM with the same components
@leftenentcrittendon3134
@leftenentcrittendon3134 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest that the use case scenario is already having a NAS that you use as a Plex server. In this case, you use the NAS for backup purposes or cloud storage replacement as well. You would have the NAS already so why not save the monthly iCloud fee, which doesn’t pay for the NAS but effectively reduces the cost of the NAS by a bit.
@carltaylor1497
@carltaylor1497 Жыл бұрын
That was why I came to watch this video. Unfortunately he does not actually tell us how to fully backup your iPhone onto Synology NAS. So waste of time.
@x72821
@x72821 2 жыл бұрын
did a cost analysis and breakdown, and it was a better deal to pay apple for my storage
@JohnJStanton
@JohnJStanton 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these in 2007 or so. It’s a server with a bunch of capabilities that I don’t think most consumers would want to use. There is maintenance overhead that I doubt most folks would want to deal with. But if you like UNIX and being a sys admin, it’s great. I bet there are a l of people out there who would be happy to give one away for free. I would have loved having one in high school. BTW, I think it a good idea to assume everything you backup to the commercial clouds will be stolen. At a minimum the government will have access to it and probably many criminals and foreign countries. That’s just common sense. Synology is more secure in that regard, but has other problems/costs.
@nuclearfamilies7076
@nuclearfamilies7076 2 жыл бұрын
We have a Synology at home from around that same era. We use it to run our video cameras and as a media server. Not Plex, just file sharing. I agree, there's not much to attract people from a consumer standpoint. But if you are into tech this thing is quite cool. You can run game servers, you can have an extra Linux computer in the house, and you can do the things I mentioned earlier. Either way, I think backing up to iCloud or Google Drive is much easier and hassle-free. At our house we all back up to Google Drive and it's really cheap. Obviously we don't back up passwords, bank details, or sensitive photos. But it helps to have something off-site. Regarding the security cameras, we also pay TP-Link for cloud storage for the footage. If something were ever to go wrong, like someone setting the house on fire. We would still have the footage.
@heyroodeanwings
@heyroodeanwings 2 жыл бұрын
How exactly does Synology have a solution for iPhone users? An apps ? Is it mentioned in the video?
@francoisgs1
@francoisgs1 Жыл бұрын
is there videos to set up and use step by step for non IT and regular blog not well verse ;))
@jasonmonson4150
@jasonmonson4150 2 жыл бұрын
So I do have a synology - and as much as I do like it - it seems I can not make a full back up of my iPhone/iPad to then synology drive - only options are to iCloud or to the computer . Some research did dig up you can copy the backup files from computer to the NAS - but you can’t do it direct - So not quite as easy as he makes it sound. So I still had to buy some iCloud storage.
@montre-moi
@montre-moi 4 ай бұрын
Apple lost all my iCloud pictures from before 2018. I called, I asked, I supplied, they just went "oops" and didnt care a bit. I'm so glad I have a backup on my NAS.
@petercomfort9651
@petercomfort9651 2 жыл бұрын
So how much will this cost in power? More than the $1 a month I pay for my cloud storage?
@BigBang28A
@BigBang28A 2 жыл бұрын
is it possible to extract data from a dead macbook? my 2014 macbook pro won’t turn on at all
@TechMyLifeVideo
@TechMyLifeVideo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, take it to Apple.
@UnCoolDad
@UnCoolDad 2 жыл бұрын
Nice advertorial 👍
@Sherry_Armstrong
@Sherry_Armstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Not only for a iPhone, but would like to have one to sync up all my google play store app game process so do t loose all my game data
@ofirgershon9697
@ofirgershon9697 2 жыл бұрын
it can backup whatsapp, notes, contact etc like icloud can do?
@lecobb3412
@lecobb3412 9 ай бұрын
Synology Photos also works with apple products like iphone ?
@handydadtv
@handydadtv Жыл бұрын
Good sales pitch, but I came here thinking you'd show how to backup an iPhone to a Synology NAS, other than photos and files.
@Campwise05
@Campwise05 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@arizkadi
@arizkadi 2 жыл бұрын
Why you didn’t mention how much it cost and compare it to the cloud storage cost?
@kesogonzaga2671
@kesogonzaga2671 2 жыл бұрын
What exactly is the circle in the thumbnail marking?
@ocelotxp
@ocelotxp Жыл бұрын
"Why every iPhone user needs a Synology" Photo backups. That's it. 8:39 minute commercial for a 2 second tip. Amazing.
@Corihogg
@Corihogg 2 жыл бұрын
So how do I use it to back up my phone??
@martinhagenau
@martinhagenau 2 жыл бұрын
dont forget to tell, that the first thing, synology tells you after setting up a synology server is to back it up e.g. to clouds, which all cost money and that a failure of a synology server, which happened to me twice in 9 years, leads to more servers to back them up without a cloud which costs even more money for additional servers. and tell that raid 5 is not recommended if you want to keep your data safe, because if another drive fails within the 24 hours it takes to repair a volume, everything is gone. so one synology definetely leads to at least another one. period.
@apollosankofa87
@apollosankofa87 2 жыл бұрын
Your thoughts on MyCloud NAS?
@dennispongs6304
@dennispongs6304 2 жыл бұрын
mmh all my two synology backups diet after 4-5 years - with all the money spend with synology and the HD in this time i would be able to buy dropbox for 30 years - a question of storage you need
@Paul-ng4jx
@Paul-ng4jx 2 жыл бұрын
Mines on auto cloud say if I don’t have to watch it backing up my data I take a picture it’s uploaded I took a video it’s uploaded I download new apps or games it’s uploading
@janjansen6263
@janjansen6263 2 жыл бұрын
Still hoping that apple gives to option to upload device backups to anything other than iCloud. Because backup using iTunes is a hassle
@yuekamhui
@yuekamhui 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough detail on how to use it as a replacement for iCloud.
@jacksoncooper12
@jacksoncooper12 2 жыл бұрын
The irony is that I'm currently struggling to find a seamless way to backup my iPhone to my Synology NAS. iTunes doesn't allow you to pick a location to backup so you have to plug in, find the backup and move the files to the Synology.
@panman2632
@panman2632 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t this just backup photos/camera only??? It doesn’t allow you to do a backup like a restore point for your iPhone?
@sk8timeforh8ers
@sk8timeforh8ers 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t realize this was just entirely going to be a paid ad, glad I pay for a premium subscription to avoid ads, these units definitely seem like something not aimed and your average user
@pcmobitab
@pcmobitab 2 жыл бұрын
There is a saying redundancy is not same as backup. Backup is different. You need to physically separate the backup copy from the main source in case of a disaster situation. Synology is good for redundancy… depending on the RAID type one would achieve the right type of redundancy. It comes with costs those NAS drives are not cheap. Unless one have a plan to create a home based content server like personal Netflix, there is no point of using NAS to just for backup
@kayjoe7237
@kayjoe7237 7 ай бұрын
Hey Apple Circle - also an I.T. guy here. Make sure to tell the users to place their Synology in the DMZ zone so they can freely access their drive truly everywhere.
@davidcareer6619
@davidcareer6619 2 жыл бұрын
I pay for iCloud but it t cannot compare to a NAS. iCloud tops out at 2TB and costs $120/yr. That's only enough for my 4yr old MacBook Pro. But I have 3 iPhones 3 iPads, two more Macs a couple PCs. My Synology has plenty of redundant space plus a ton of other features such as Plex.
@abdullahquhtani8058
@abdullahquhtani8058 2 жыл бұрын
How much will that solution cost with 4TB, 8TB? Please REPLY.
@iTzAlbertXD
@iTzAlbertXD 2 жыл бұрын
Can an Iphone 2G do that ?
@Cjmboo
@Cjmboo 2 жыл бұрын
Pay the icloud storage its not that much a month and back up videos and pictures to google photos
@fshtank
@fshtank 2 жыл бұрын
@Vincent Raw made the ultimate point below. The cost for Synology + Hard drives far exceeds over 10 years paying for iCloud, Drop Box, etc) Synology has its use case no doubt and I am a fan, but this is not the correct comparison. It falls flat. I have 4 Macs, 4 iPads, 2 active phones all backing up to the same iCloud (different family accounts too - pics, contacts, files) and after 5 years paying for the full size i still have 1.1 TB available space … AND its backed up. Find a different reason to advertise how awesome you are @Synology & tell us about that. I think someone with a Plex server (I don’t have one) is a good argument. Any video editors with large files to store also make good arguments.
@TimoWolf200
@TimoWolf200 2 жыл бұрын
This argument is nonsense. You cannot compare the setup in this video with a 2 TB iCloud plan. When you buy a Synology DS220j with 2 2TB NAS Hard Drives ist will costs about 550€. If you compare this to a 2TB iCloud plan for 9,99€ it will be only about 4 years. This is a big difference! And don’t forget you have many more features and possibilities with a Synology NAS.
@Omikoshi78
@Omikoshi78 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a fan of personal cloud but I realized personal cloud is a easier target. There is no on-call engineer to detect and respond to security incidents, no security monitoring, fast patches, or comparable security budget to apple, google, amazon, or microsoft.
@user-qm7bp4ul5t
@user-qm7bp4ul5t Жыл бұрын
I missed the part where you explained how to actually back up the iPhone???
@joechea_
@joechea_ 2 жыл бұрын
wait, all of these services in one device and it’s connected to the internet? hacker’s dream device lol
@RandomUserX99
@RandomUserX99 2 жыл бұрын
Synology is the best home NAS solution. Everyone needs one regardless of iPhone usage or not.
@jonathanpollock8970
@jonathanpollock8970 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting one for a while. Maybe one day.
@ThurstanHethorn
@ThurstanHethorn 2 жыл бұрын
As some are pointing out depends on your needs. I’ve found it useful as a web server, media server as well as backup and have been playing with other features. As many have pointed out, just to backup your phone/replace iCloud it is not worth it.
@jonathanpollock8970
@jonathanpollock8970 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThurstanHethorn agreed completely. They’re are cheaper alternatives for that. However, I do photography part time and a tiny bit of video. I would love an on-site cloud storage option. I just haven’t had the time or money to put into one. I didn’t realize the synology devices could do quite so much.
@ThurstanHethorn
@ThurstanHethorn 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanpollock8970 they are basically full computers except headless (no monitor or keyboard) so quite capable, fairly good App Store. Synology would be fairly good for photo work, but perhaps not the best choice for video. The lower end only have 1gbit ethernet, maybe 2gbit with two cables and some messing around. Then you start hitting either cpu or drive speed limits. The home / small business aimed ones don’t strike me to be made for throughput speed. You may be able to get some redundancy goodness on you computer or laptop by running a simple mirrored raid, basically get two hdd/ssd in duplicate. If you don’t need the always on accessible around the world features then you can get two drive usb caddies again mirrored for redundancy. With up to 20Tb per drive you don’t need many drives to get a good deal of storage. You can always setup an old computer to be you Nas if you have a few hours and a bit of technical or guide following ability.
@jonathanpollock8970
@jonathanpollock8970 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThurstanHethorn thank you for the information! Honestly, I don’t think my internet speed reaches 1 gbit. If it does, I know my wireless does not. I get about 1/4 that. Most of my online backups take place overnight. I hadn’t thought about running a NAS through another computer. I’ll definitely look into that.
@ThurstanHethorn
@ThurstanHethorn 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanpollock8970 there is actually a version of Synology software to run on other hardware. I think it’s called “open NAS” and can run on some general intel hardware. There are other providers of software. May not have to go that far, just chuck in another drive and mirror it is a good start.
@konsingedaranawarathna9999
@konsingedaranawarathna9999 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think its budget friendly for a normal person to go to synology instead of i cloud but if you care about your privacy and Tim Cook going through your personal files. Synology is the way to go.
@damospearzo1032
@damospearzo1032 2 жыл бұрын
Synology is brilliant for Apple products in particular, but great for pretty much users of any OS. My only gripe is they stupidly removed the duplicate photos feature from Synology Photos in DSM & when it was there in Moments in DSM 6. Dumb as !!!
@sryev9410
@sryev9410 2 жыл бұрын
This didn’t explain anything about how this works with the apple ecosystem. I like apple cloud because I don’t have to do anything. If synergy offers the same thing I would be interested but this gave me zero information
@jayzn1931
@jayzn1931 5 ай бұрын
Just wanna mention, that even if your drives only had en unrecoverable read error rate of 10^15, (but WD Reds usually have 10^14) the chance you rebuild from a single drive failure successfully is only 85%. For these drives it would be 20%! So I would never use those drives in RAID 5! If you don't need highspeed, (which you don't for a backup server) go with 2*12TB+ in RAID 1, which is usually cheaper as well. RAID 10 is also a great option, as it is fast and can rebuild without errors, if no drive fails. You mentioned in the video that it has worked in the past, which seems unlikely to me, so there might be something I am not getting here and if somebody has an info, please share it with me.
@TheoSmith249
@TheoSmith249 Жыл бұрын
I like listening ro this guy at 2X speed. He makes more sense.
@bolttracks
@bolttracks 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't replace iCloud backups for phones tho. That's not to say these aren't sweet AF.
@ThurstanHethorn
@ThurstanHethorn 2 жыл бұрын
Misleading ad. Yes Synology are great, I use one, but this did not go into any detail as to why it is useful for an iPhone. I was hoping to see at least one method it is used for backup. The best I can think of for full backup is to backup to a Mac should you have one then use the time machine. Photo backup wasn’t as seamless last time I tried.
@jenniferw8963
@jenniferw8963 Жыл бұрын
Synology is great but you really didn't explain why an iPhone user needs a Synology. I still can't backup directly from my phone to it, I don't believe. I thought you were goign to share a way this could be done. Right now I have to backup my phone to my computer --- which then gets backed up via Time Machine.
@alexisaguirre6349
@alexisaguirre6349 2 жыл бұрын
I want this
@person-fy8kd
@person-fy8kd 2 жыл бұрын
I have one and Its not even plugged in because I am in college :(
@TheSleeplessMind
@TheSleeplessMind 2 жыл бұрын
We need Synology because they sponsor the channel, thanks
@Portal64
@Portal64 2 жыл бұрын
Once I run out of iCloud space I just move onto google drive and so on lol just use all the free space. But I also regularly import stuff onto my computer just so I can delete it off my phone and cloud
@Andrew110
@Andrew110 2 жыл бұрын
or just do what I've done, make multiple accounts
@vexystar3389
@vexystar3389 2 жыл бұрын
Can you really use Google drive and google photos on Iphone? How? I am still waiting for my first ever Iphone never knew I can stay on Google for backup. I thought I'd lose everything on Google once I transfer from Android to Ios
@Portal64
@Portal64 2 жыл бұрын
@@vexystar3389 yup! You can download them from the App Store and login to your gmail.
@Portal64
@Portal64 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew110 didn’t know you could do that but also I’d imagine things may get confused which account has what.
@vexystar3389
@vexystar3389 2 жыл бұрын
@@Portal64 omg thank you so much. So no need to pay Icloud since I already pay Google photos?
@DaveDFX
@DaveDFX 2 жыл бұрын
Buy one Synology for home. Then back up the Synology to the cloud. Yay
@trumpdrago517
@trumpdrago517 2 жыл бұрын
Imo, the $2.99 200gb plan is 100% worth it. People don’t understand local storage, is well local. Fire, flooding all your info is gone. Power outage? It’s temporarily gone. Imo a cloud as big as apple is invaluable. Home nas only really make sense if you hoard data. Even 1tb for $9. That’s $120 a year. To run a similar nas set up you’d need 2, 2bay nas (one for a separate location), 4 1tb hdd, an internet connection with fast upload, electricity. That’s like $1000 with the hdd swap. 10 years of iCloud
@BearMeat4Dinner
@BearMeat4Dinner 2 жыл бұрын
They've been rocking the neighborhood for the past like majorly for the past 8 years...
@jonathanraven5939
@jonathanraven5939 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@ShivneilPratap-ManUtd
@ShivneilPratap-ManUtd 2 жыл бұрын
How about if the machine goes bad
@edannelson8471
@edannelson8471 2 жыл бұрын
So the setup shown would run approx. 1200 CAD for the system, and 700x6 CAD for the storage at 4TB drives. 5400/ish CAD for total setup. I could pay 12/monthly for 200GB rotating storage in the cloud for 40 years at that rate…. While taking into account storage will only be a fraction of that price down the road this looks like a bad deal… Not to mention an easier to hack system and I’m on my own to replace hardware when it fails. May be right for a small business, but not for an at home user.
@AppleHead-fc4vq
@AppleHead-fc4vq 2 жыл бұрын
I still use a external drive
@robertvincent180
@robertvincent180 3 ай бұрын
Okay, I have a Synology - it's great. All my computers backup to it automatically. It's in Raid 5 and every month I back it up separately to hard drives in a media fire safe. It's got thousands of videos on it that I watch with plex from all of our TVs. It hosts my website and websites for my friends. My entire family has links to the pictures folders which automatically tag all the photos and they add their own photos to those folders whenever they have any. So I'm sold - but this video is useless.
@---GOD---
@---GOD--- 2 жыл бұрын
RAID is *not* a backup solution. Hope you back up your NAS with another NAS and/or cold storage and/or cloud storage.
@RonBrownLightworkxStudio
@RonBrownLightworkxStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Now THAT is a sales pitch or what?
@manuelheydenreich7822
@manuelheydenreich7822 2 жыл бұрын
for the money of this product including drives, you can get an apple or google cloud service for years.
@teddyfurstman1997
@teddyfurstman1997 2 жыл бұрын
Nas storage > Apple iCloud
@simonpandey1241
@simonpandey1241 2 жыл бұрын
Why not backup photos and videos freely through google photos and save contacs on SIM? App data of social medias are also automatically backed up after logging in and files can be easily stored in mac. Why tf would I even need SYNOLOGY or whatever???
@ForgettableS
@ForgettableS 2 жыл бұрын
Just back up everything on your phone to your mac. I litlerly have one hdd lieing around that has my macs back up and all my dozens of phones back up in one. THe hdd has a clone of my mac on it so i can just unscrew the back and stick it in and Im away laughing
@mikepowers7207
@mikepowers7207 2 жыл бұрын
First video you've ever done that I dislike. I don't come to TAC to watch a 9-minute long infomercial.
@nationaljonahgraphic
@nationaljonahgraphic 2 жыл бұрын
The video makes it sound like once you pay the $1600 for the unit then it's zero cost. But 1, there's the added electricity cost to run it day in and day out. 2, mechanical hard drives typically have a life span of 5 years. They might last way longer, or way shorter. So you should also be prepared to replace at least one hard drive per year. 3, the manufacturer warranty is only 3 years, so any repair costs after that are the consumers responsibility. 4, in the amount of time it would take for this unit to "pay for itself" it will be obsolete. Finally 5, there's the added risk of theft, fire, or natural disaster and all your data is instantly gone. Maybe I can see this as a good option for someone who needs to back up dozens of TBs, but for the vast majority of people a monthly subscription for a cloud service will still be more convenient, more secure, and cheaper.
@TechTalks685
@TechTalks685 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so here me out, spend like 400$ on a decent nas OR just pay for cloud that’s like 5-10$ a month which it would take literally 4 years if you have the highest storage option on iCloud
@DB-kl7il
@DB-kl7il 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes. Glad KZbin got rid of that dislike counter cause this man is FOR SURE getting it. Imagine pay over $200 for JUST the synology Unit and not including drives ($8+ per drive). By the times I reached that paying for my yearly icloud, Ill be 50 lol.
@MrFreshgale
@MrFreshgale Жыл бұрын
I did not see you have answered how can it replace iCLoud? Contact backup? How to restore the new iPhone if the old one died? Notes backup? Very misleading video title...
@kjlee851224
@kjlee851224 2 жыл бұрын
Is not easy to setup backup on iphone with Synology
@groot5441
@groot5441 2 жыл бұрын
I see something’s saying doesn’t work with Mac
@TheGotoGeek
@TheGotoGeek 2 жыл бұрын
iCloud for a lifetime is probably less expensive as a NAS with drives. And then there’s the problem of the NAS failing, so you need two of them.
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