Why Everyone is Negative About Path of Exile 2

[@lucara]

Gamers are told, game is unfinished and unbalanced. Gamers buy unfinished game. Gamers complain about game beeing unfinished. The internet in a nutshell.

[@sooperd00p]

Correct. I'm tired of being an unpaid intern for studios trying to feel out the market or wtv. I'm done.

[@kakaroten]

This is an early access, beta... I think some people think it's the early access of a full game. With some tweaks to loot and currency, many problems are solved.

[@Zombiesbum]

"It's in EA, so don't give feedback." -You in a nutshell. EDIT: So many banned asmon chatters in here with L takes that make no sense; "Feedback is fine, unless it's the flavour of feedback I don't like, then it's crying/whining/complaining". Don't you hear yourselves?

[@orewaren8549]

I think they should complain more. More complaints = more critical issues will be spotted and fixed ez.

[@obiwangaenomi]

this is a ridiculous take. the game is $30. early access games sell for significantly cheaper prices in the early access stage than in full releases. If you are buying a game for $30, (technically not buying a game but access to early access), it should be worth $30 and be functional like $30. the game did reverse strategy of industrial norm. instead of giviing discount to players for playing an unfinished game, they hyped up the game and sold access to an unfinished game.

[@jacobbodn10]

I'm actually loving the slower pace and difficulty. The act one boss really forced me to re-evaluate my build and get better gear.

[@pff1974]

So it's just like POE1, some builds just don't work.

[@ClaudioAguileraMunoz]

@@pff1974 the build will work against a determined enemy, just as any good RPG should be.

[@wnuktomas5642]

poe2 drop rate is absolute ****

[@AerynWalk]

i agree but missing loot is really a problem i was running 3 zones and got like 1 rare which was garbage. I dont want loot explosions like poe1 or diablo 4 but they could tweak a lil. bit at least

[@MrRenken]

Shouldn't be re-evaluating build in the first or second act. Maybe the 3rd. As to re specing. cost is to high for early on. and drop rates are crazy low. Finally spend hour killing one boss and he drops a scroll of wisdom.

[@victorb5]

Very positive rating on Steam with a 500k concurrent player count 24h peak. I know Asmongold is just farming the drama, but this is a big stretch to say "everyone is negative".

[@cravalon]

Did you born today man?

[@boartank]

It's a title, not his viewpoint

[@Archangel591]

The video is specifically talking about the POE sub-reddit. You don't want to go there. People are indeed very negative. And even the mods are super touchy. Got literally banned from telling a few people that's it's a skill issue when they can't beat a boss. Rest of the internet is happy. But that cesspool of POE elitists in the sub-reddit. Oh man, the game is everything they hate.

[@KazaiTV]

Stop turning everything into drama like some mindless drone. The whole purpose of EA is to finetune the game by receiving feedback Litterly everybody agrees that the currency drops were a problem. This made everything else even worse especially early game. The dodgeroll not having a push mechanic was also something everyone complained about, especially melee players. Some areas in the campaign being way to big while having to backtrack to find the exit is also bad. GGG has addressed all of these things now with their new and upcoming patch.

[@amoex]

Considering GGG released patch to address some of the negative on the PoE sub, it looks like the PoE sub is correct

[@jeremysteck439]

Watching him take out that boss in a few seconds had me in disbelief. It took me 10 attempts as a Sorc to beat that boss, mainly because the vendors sold items that weren't for my class, and monsters never dropped useful loot. Dude was CHUNKING that bosses health, while i had to whittle it down.

[@wavyhermit5230]

The issue is trials and ascending. Imagine getting no evasion on ur first room in the trial ur cooked if ur a ranger

[@wavyhermit5230]

Also fire and poison are a huge issue u take so much honor damage even with relic resistance. When u get hit by the two bosses in the second trial acensedancy the fire guy one shits ur honor.

[@Loyalitaeterr]

​@@wavyhermit5230 you definitely can get unlucky in the modifiers but its actually impossible to be forced to take no evasion in the first room since you can choose one of three rooms. Yes there are some cases where you only have one way to go after a room but as long as you don't have the modifier that you see one room less you can see what comes in the room after the next. Many people that struggled just didn't pay attention to the affliction and the room after and just took the one boon or something that sounds the best. If these guys just would've chosen the one that gives the least bad thing instead of focusing what it brings then half of the people complaining would say it actually isn't that bad

[@trentntb5437]

you just need to overlevel a few times/farm a few items. Quit slamming your head against the boss and either have good enough gear or learn the mechanics well enough. It shouldnt be too hard and I would ask you learn to appreciate the game and what makes it challenging. That is a gap that you should enjoy learning about and getting on the other side. Knowledge is huge in this game.

[@svenbrede6151]

Yeah, I can see the loot issues. Currently the only way to progress for me (being a melee tank) is to buy stuff on the market. Bit annoying

[@orionsbelt792]

I'm 62 years old. While I am an experienced gamer, my reflexes aren't what they used to be and this game is not too hard. Difficult, yes but I enjoy a challenge.

[@itsame8470]

I can't believe people are calling it hard. Same boat as you, just not as far down the river. Were people expecting D4 button mashing where the only thing that matters is your character's stats vs the mob's stats? It's not a HARD game. You just don't get given boss fights.

[@DonEriksen85]

I couldnt agree more :)

[@Radek125]

Agreed

[@babelincoln2092]

Veteran gamer confirmed. Holy.

[@jefre117]

My noob friend destroying acr1 bosses with monk

[@wisp6826]

Most people think vendors are useless, because path of exile 1 and diablo games taught them that.

[@josippo]

I got very lucky at vendor buying these randomized items, after 2-3 I always got a useful rare for whatever I needed to upgrade.

[@CallMeTeci]

I mean there is a difference between "Vendors are useful too" and "The loot sucks so much, that 90% of your weapons have to be bought at vendors".

[@ЕфимМушаков-ъ1б]

​@@CallMeTeciLoot doesn't suck. Actually there is a way to craft preferrable weapon also

[@glenmcl]

People throwing away White Normal gear are missing out. Keep your highest and slot 4 affixes into it making it Rare.

[@josippo]

@CallMeTeci yes totally, i did not get one single drop that I used later, only vendors and trading.

[@sawtoothtate3572]

“Stop playing warrior” is not a helpful sentiment. Anyone with a brain wants all classes to be viable, it’s the whole point of beta testing it to begin with. To make the right changes. If warriors need a buff, then buff them. It’s that simple.

[@BREAKocean]

For real ! Warriors are one of the most popular power fantasies in all if fantasy

[@JonathanTylerG]

it will surely happen

[@catra195]

and Monk

[@cerbralone]

I'm nearing the end of act 2 with my warrior and everything is a slog. Too many enemies? Guess I'm dead before I can get a bone break off. Boss? Guess I'm in for a 20 min battle that I lose at the end cause the boss starts summoning exploding adds. Melee just feels horrible. Feels like I'm playing a Diablo 2 melee build except I don't even have good single target damage.

[@ovidijussan]

i fucked act 1 final boss with warrior (2nd try) broke armour + charge attack. it was pretty easy. i lost more to electric mobs

[@saladslugger]

I think a damage recap for what killed you and HOW would be awesome. Being told I got chipped away at but a HUGE slam attack (that ignores evasion) is what ended my career would go a long way in helping newer players to learn the mechanics organically and give them some control over their experience. Like if a player notices they took 10k damage to poison, they can opt to run a poison charm. If they see that a majority of damage they are taking is fire, they can bump up their fire resistance from the many many sources and suddenly they're tanking hits.

[@ionionionioification]

Just like Last Epoch. Man that game is near perfect.

[@RUTGERMORTENSEN]

Couldn't agree more

[@tg5369]

Let’s be honest, it’s still an amazing game while being difficult.

[@voidomable]

It's not hard. But after 10 hours of play it gets boring and tedious.

[@BigKnecht]

It's not even that difficult. You just have to play the game like an actual rpg. If you're stuck on a boss, just switch around your skills/ passives and learn the mechanics. Boom. Done.

[@darthsaint7743]

its isnt hard???? its a challenge lol but thats what makes games fun these days. they are all so easy now days.

[@gorgeousfreeman1318]

​@@voidomablethat's almost any rpg

[@notYisan]

ehh i dont believe ARPG can be hard...........

[@DukeWubzington]

Some deaths def feel bad, but my least favorite part so far is getting trapped at a checkpoint cuz there's a group of rares/elites standing on you the second you spawn. There should be a small area around the checkpoints where stuff can't spawn or like an aggro delay so you're not getting ambushed the second you respawn. Some areas are def worse about that than others, but it's common enough to be annoying.

[@DarioLeonRincon]

They don't attack until you do an action, so you can TP away.

[@Raxx-Acolyte]

I dont figure it out until now. Did we lose xp with Death? The gear that dropped already despawn after death, right?

[@DukeWubzington]

@@DarioLeonRincon weird, cuz I've def gotten rushed on spawn. Maybe it's got something to do with minions? I'mma have to check and make sure I'm not the one fucking up lol. But I do have an infernal hellhound that would trigger aggro just by being near an enemy, so that could be the problem for me.

[@DukeWubzington]

@@Raxx-Acolyte nah you don't xp or anything fortunately, unless you're doing maps in endgame then you'll lose the map. All the gear and stuff that dropped should still be there until the area refreshes tho which generally takes around 8-15 min if you're not in the zone or you manually refresh it.

[@redrepublic5557]

I experienced this for the first time early this morning. Activating totems which spawn mobs and if you die to said mob, you respawn at check point with the same mobs there that jump you. And once you clear them you still need to reactivate the objective just to clear them again (or get trapped and die again.)

[@mgrimble3975]

The only difficulty i want changing is the ability to change the UI Scale on consoles (larger font options) i cant read fk all unless i stand like 2 feet from my TV its so stupid.

[@rgjs4537]

Yeah console always left behind on these settings.

[@tuonglanpham1333]

Lol😂 me2, the graphics are not good at 3260 output.

[@NeakMeakk]

I think the honor system also needs some adjustments for melee but otherwise everything else is solid.

[@rgjs4537]

@@tuonglanpham1333 they could optimize the 1440 resolution so we on the ps5 could play at high quality with steady 60fps. But the game still new and it's EA. We can't demand so much from GGG. They are doing a great job so far.

[@XiaolinDraconis]

It has that already tho? It also has all the resolution options... Have you guys even tried going to settings on a console??

[@robertsmithington8892]

A little late to the party now, but some interesting things were discovered that are similar to POE 1. Melee is at a large disadvantage. 2. Armor has severe diminishing returns on big hits. Armor is almost nonexistent against large hits, which is why the warrior feels very squishy. In other words, armor was not designed to be used for tanking. This makes evasion and ES the superior defensive stats in the game

[@hemawemaful]

Today's patch addressed some of the feedback may it be negative or positive feedback, GGG listened and they increased currency drop rates, which is one step in the right direction. WP ggg

[@TheRetrostorian]

It's not. Changes like these push out the hardcore people, then the casuals go back to candy crush or whatever after they've ruined yet another game.

[@Hu_Li]

​@@TheRetrostorianso make currency drop rates to 0.00000001% of the current rate, increase prices by 10¹⁰⁰ times the current prices and make all drop loots shit with 1 x 10^-(10^100) chance of dropping a decent loot would surely pull in hardcore, right?

[@kevintrabert1922]

@@TheRetrostoriannot everyone is a hard core player. I struggle for damage and I have good gear playing a ranger. My struggle is with the white mobs believe it or not it. Makes the game so slow.

[@Mugthraka]

Lerts hope it fixes the real issue that is itemisation. The rate at wich you upgrade gear before this fix was abyssmak, at lvl 40 i was still going around with lvl12 gear, cause i din't get Anything better to upgrade it and the crafting currency drop rate was so abyssmal that i barely could use anything.

[@Mugthraka]

@@TheRetrostorian No it doesnt

[@FlameForgedSoul]

"What the hell are people doing?" Playing Warrior with half the melee options not implemented.

[@Fox-in-the-Storm]

The gap between how fun melee seemed and how it actually felt was pretty massive.

[@Viper3220]

Melee is garbage and melee is all I play. EVERY single KZbinr I've seen praising the game is playing some braindead mage/ranged option while walking/rolling backwards

[@yavvivvay]

@@Viper3220 as if playing a melee class was the braindead choice.

[@ciege7486]

​@@Viper3220 Acting like Warrior's weren't one shoting bosses day one, gtf outa here

[@bigbenjiboy1895]

@@Viper3220 I'm playing warrior as well & it's a drag. I've always played barbs & bruiser type characters. I don't mind the difficulty but I feel the drops are too low for the difficulty of the game. Also the warrior feels way too slow with its attacks. The accuracy mechanic is unnecessary as well. I can see it being relevant for ranged character but not for a warrior who gets up close. The game is good, but I'll probably leave it when I get to the end game because I'm not into playing ranged characters & that's what is meta.

[@tylerj3855]

I love POE2, There is a clear distinction between “hey I need learn the mechanics of this boss and learn how to defeat them” vs “okay it’s clear I just need better equipment now”.

[@Koshak87]

This!

[@vitali1002]

But it's need to be like second one, it's not rpg or souls game, it's repetitive farming arpg

[@zblug985]

The fact that it's actually both makes it so good. Even with goor gear, better than you need, without thinking a bit and building knowledge about boss, you just die. And the more experience you are, the lower the gear you need up until gear check is mandatory.

[@Ghorda9]

@@vitali1002 there's nothing that says that it needs to be like that.

[@Hypergangnam]

@@vitali1002 Totally dissagree. It needs to be the first one. Then second one to make it somewhat easier. Where it needs toning down, is the builds, items, numbers and all the nerding over 100 builds, numbers, gear and items that makes it unnecessarily convoluted. Then the game has poor GUI aswell on top of it.

[@parkersant627]

As a person who didn't play POE1, watching my criticisms written off as "Stop comparing it to POE1" is highly frustrating. I don't have a comparison to go by.

[@trentntb5437]

Get good then. this is a game designed to be played the next 10 yrs plus. Quit having a broken brain and realize it will improve and you need to listen to the OGs more than think you know whats best.

[@parkersant627]

"Get good" is such a great argument I never thought about getting good at a game before! Man I should really hold my tongue before I've extensively exhausted all of my options! Thank you kind sir! /s There are a couple aspects of the game I find inherently unfun/unfair. I'm also not talking on the game itself directly with my first comment. I've taken three classes up to roughly level 70 with no guides, groups, or trading. I'm enjoying the game more than I thought I would and hope the game continues to improve and adapt. I also enjoy the hardcore aspect of games if there is one available. I'm specifically looking at the "broken brain" logic of a few people essentially saying "since I'm not having issues you shouldn't either" and completely disregarding opinions. I agree and disagree with both of these creators on these points provided. There are things I think would be better if changed, there are things I think shouldn't be changed. If stuff changes so be it, if nothing changes so be it.

[@yolven2303]

Its honestly the first "difficult" game i've enjoyed.

[@darthsaint7743]

NO ITS A CHALLENGE NOT DIFFICULT

[@Replica2901]

Exactly, I usually hate souls-likes and similar stuff, but poe2 is awesome

[@TRPDK]

I am interested in buying it but have some questions. How long is the campaign? How's the mtx in the game? Will the early access have seasons? How long until full release?

[@darthsaint7743]

@TRPDK well I'm like 20 hours deep and just finished act 2. I'm a bit of a noob. Haven't had much troubles though!!!

[@robforskinstein]

@@TRPDK​​⁠​​⁠campaign is 3 acts, each act can take around 6ish hours to complete depending on if you explore stuff or grind bosses (backtracking through a dungeon can be a bit tedious) Right now it’s $30 for EA (up to $100) which means 300-1000 points towards MTX. The only thing you’d maybe want to get is stash tabs, everything else to my knowledge is purely cosmetic. This also goes towards PoE1 I personally don’t know about seasons, I think during EA they will just be tweaking balance and working on adding the other classes and ascendancies along with their weapons. Early access is estimated to be 6-12 months.

[@Rurukuken]

The only changes I wanted are the ability to teleport between checkpoints and higher drops on crafting stuff and they just patched both in. Amazing game just keeps getting more amazing.

[@Mike-hy8cs]

Yup and they only took 3days doing it. That tells me they care. Not that I didnt know that already. Game is early access and this is the worst state the game will ever be in and its still amazing lol

[@DnASingularity]

Really? when did this patch drop? was it already live when i was playing 18 hours ago?

[@KarizmaKai]

@@DnASingularity no

[@DuckyPM]

All of them have been done now. Check patch notes, king 😎

[@sosa_8692]

Wait... you can travel to checkpoints?

[@patigelstarberry4302]

I never played poe, this was my first one. I played a witch at first and was afk killing everything with summons. Then i tried warriors, and it was like playing a no-hit dark souls run, absolute brutality, barely survived every encounter.

[@nothingelsetodo4229]

Played the witch because love summons. It was pretty easy game. Never played warrior or anything so I don't have much to say about difficulties

[@GorehowlBeardhead]

Interesting tbh. In 1, Witch was the glass cannon and Barbarian was nigh unkillable

[@Glaceonics]

@@GorehowlBeardhead Warrior has nothing to really help them until they get the Totems and bosses always outpace the Warrior, they're way too mobile for his skillset.

[@Ralathar44]

My summons witch had a parabolic arc. She started out feeling weak, hit her stride, and then became quite strong, and then started falling off at end game. When I remade the character in a far later season I ramped faster since I better knew what I was doing and because GGG had massively buffed the early game but still fell off late game. Now I'm pretty sure I could solve my late game issue by following a build guide, but I dont like doing that in any ARPG.

[@Subsistence69]

My first one as well and I was getting my ass handed to me on monk despite making it to act 2 with a friend. Gave it a rest and started a mercenary and a sorceress and sorceress is popping and feeling good for me

[@tngardener1087]

How many of those people usually play idle games the fact you have to press buttons to them makes it hard.😅 Get your defensive stats up resistance and energy shield. All your skills need the proper support abilities. A good passive tree with the correct gems sockets filled.

[@chc2650]

Any game where you have to use WASD for more than an hour straight is too hard. They want a game where they can move around with their mind/mouth.

[@Mark-vr7pt]

Things i learned that made my experience in POE2 more fun: 1. Identify items before selling (its free) 2. Look for base items in the shop regularly 3. Dont miss on runes, and always disassemble all items with sockets (dont sell them, dont disenchant them)

[@aeolussvichi7680]

What do you mean identifying items is free? It costs a scroll of wisdom dint it?

[@momirpesic4828]

@@aeolussvichi7680 When you talk to the hooded one, you have the option to identify all item in your inventory for free.

[@aeolussvichi7680]

@@momirpesic4828 ah got ya, i don't think I'm there just yet. I just got him off that tree lol. I've been running around exploring and grinding the bosses available to me so far.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

@@aeolussvichi7680 You have to complete the quest after Lachlann’s _Sorrows Among Stones_ quest in Act 1 to unlock _The Hooded One_

[@Meltdownlv100]

I will add: 4. Go into your input tab in settings and find your toggle highlighting button (off by default) Not sure why GGG made it the Z button on pc when it is easily pressed playing wasd. Sometimes you forget its off and pass up on tons of loot

[@zurajanaisephirothda3886]

Asmons either a prophet or the design team contacted him: Allow to get through little shits body blocking you > patched Allow teleporting between checkpoints > patched

[@Draik41]

nah GGG just does a really good job with player feedback. At the end of the day, they are also ARPG players.

[@dakkenly]

He was parroting what he was seeing people say

[@waveyzen]

where did you see these changes?

[@Neriehem]

@@waveyzen latest community note from GGG on their forums, it's been all over reddit too

[@annojance]

Oh, they fixed the body blocking (for small enemies)? Awesome! Based developers indeed.

[@bearsbite95]

Act 1 boss was difficult, but not once did I feel like it was unfair. It was a blast and better than any boss I fought in D4

[@jakeramp1]

Lost ark has difficult, fun and rewarding bosses. I didnt have any of those memorable encounters in act 1 or 2, so im back in poe 1 now. Maybe when ggg figures out what theyre going for, ill try again. Just felt like they were wasting my time.

[@TheEternalVortex42]

D4 bosses are epically bad. Although I like the POE1 bosses more than the POE2 ones.

[@karlangas9292]

i did feel at some point that it was not a fair fight but then i went back, got better equipment and a level up and it was doable within 3 tries. After that act 2 has been easy (im just a lvl 29 in act 2, not that much time to play these days), no boss has given me problems so far (at most one death per figth). I'm using a warrior btw

[@rigormortis3219]

@@jakeramp1 you should stay in poe1 then dude the gamplay isnt going to change lol GET GOOD NOOB

[@craigstege6376]

Unfair? No, totally do able. Just a bit much in the last 20% health when his move set goes from punishing to "Well he knicked you, try again." For a first act boss that could probably go. I don't think the first boss needs an enrage mechanic. There's only so many tools you have for survivability at that point and the possibility of that filtering a lot of players is a problem if you want new players to get into it and stay.

[@mysticceiling]

I never played PoE1 but I picked up PoE2 4 days ago and I am in late act 2 and I love the challenges of this game it's difficult in some parts but I never get frustrated more so encouraged to beat everything cause its fun!

[@21StaticXXSaint13]

People are treating POE 2 like it's an expansion, not a sequel. They're also failing to realize the game is in early access. The people playing right now are essentially testing everything so the devs can fine tune any wonky interactions, scaling, etc. before the official release.

[@ogcipher4967]

People complain about mechanics and design they find bad or ufun -> random dude on the internet "he people playing right now are essentially testing everything so the devs can fine tune any wonky interactions, scaling, etc. before the official release." .... like yeah ... THEY ARE PROVIDING FEEDBACK YOU HALF-COOKED POTATO

[@PraxesArdenn]

@@ogcipher4967 Their feedback sucks. Literally all of it is "make it easier and give me more stuff."

[@ophielasrage]

@@PraxesArdenn My feed back for POE2, get rid of unfun dodge rolling, unfun support gems. Make maps fun to run not terrible mazes like all maps are in POE2

[@PraxesArdenn]

@ophielasrage dodge rolling is fun as fuck

[@xmailqdk3284]

​@@ogcipher4967 lol the game is amazing. Go play pokemon..

[@Grentain]

When the guy mentioned that he hasn't done the Trial of Chaos yet, I immediately thought "Okay, this guy doesn't have nearly enough perspective on the game yet to tell people that their complaints are wrong."

[@hybridz35]

you don't enjoy picking the wrong option and it one shotting you?

[@hanswurst2923]

Yeah he's way too opinionated about things he has no experience in. Also he talks down on people with valid problems too much, e.g. the body blocking situation.

[@DimkaTsv]

​​​@@hybridz35 reading comprehension issue? Then those people also should NEVER do expedition encounters. Besides that. Ascendancy trial is infinite, until you succeed. Meaning that token for passage does not disappear on failure, and you can try again. Rewards are locked, but other than that every try you will have different trials and penalty choices. UPD: quest granted runs are infinite. Everything after that is basically mechanic, and you token will be lost on failure!

[@lgleonardogomes]

Just lvl up bro. I did the entire campaign before doing the trial

[@yakudza2773]

Yeap dude is literal "d4 dad " that was stanning diablo when all the vets who already knew real state of game where called haters. This dude is doing it in POE. Now i dont think POE is in that bad of a state but it does need plenty of fixes to be playable each season.

[@jim.rnilsen9]

It doesn't have to be made "easier" but being able to zoom out a bit more and a way to deal with body blocking would be nice. Right now I feel like I'm playing at 125% zoom and getting stuck just isn't fun...

[@padrinozerocool]

Ok. This one the developer have to do something.

[@Joegengstah]

they just released patch notes that solve a lot of the getting stuck part

[@jrahmes1]

@jim.rnilsen9 i agree, definitely could be a little more zoomed out

[@m.j.e.5245]

Asmon thinks complaining about woke games as fine but complaining about games he likes "is ridiculous." Game is mid

[@davidm.schreckii1426]

Must be getting caught in a lot of corners and surrounded quite a bit for it to be stressing you that much, but if it happened once or twice, then maybe be a bit more aware of the maps layout and direction enemies are coming from and this won't be a problem, I myself don't like this problem either but if it's happening only a handful of times then it shouldnt be that stressful, let alone there I do believe attributes in the game that lowers a players stun threshold to be stunned Mayne build a lil bit in that, I also believe until we as players are fully equipped with really good items problems like these shouldn't be changed until those top tier items are found, maybe there are ways in the game eventually that make this unfun mechanic less possible for enemies to do to you, we don't know just yet.

[@zacharyjewess2475]

Yeah, I posted a question to the community page about what is the motovation behind respec costs and the overall message i got was it was because it's a better system that PoE1. My biggest question about respec costs is that it really pushes you to follow a build guide than to experiment around what equipment you might have. Like for example I got a unique that gives me massive amounts of the energy shield. So right now I am gonna prioritize that over any other defense and my skill tree should reflect that.

[@pr0newbie]

You should be punished for forming a huge train of monsters and cornering yourself without the dps to clear them. Risk vs Reward.

[@lokhaxz803]

>30 mobs spawn 5ft away in a narrow corridor

[@polarbear3262]

People don't form them. Mobs are on top of each other and tons of levels have only narrow spaces. Game expects you to roll and dodge which can attract more minions. Minions have ability to raise skeletons and what not and have aoe attacks. So yeah, you get stun locked very easy by a small mob that does huge damage. It's not fun.

[@zurothain]

I agree you should. That isn't what happens with Collison though. I have a clip of an enemy placing there pot down in a doorway creating a Collison object preventing me from getting through it as a melee and the enemy sat back and shot at me while I had 0 way to get through or go around since it was the 1 access in and out of a side room I was in in act 2.I have gotten to maps and 3 characters through act 3 already. The only character that collision didn't feel super punishing and just unfair was monk because he has a teleporting attack by lvl 3. For party play the teammates can easily body block you or FORCE move you and interrupt your attacks just by them also trying to play the game. The collision is in a TERRIBLE state currently. I don't think it needs to be removed but there needs to be a way for you to be able to actually have agency and interact with it and not feel like just a victim of Game design. I think attacks that don't have knockback shouldn't force move enemies/you when the enemy collides with your model. Monk's Tempest flurry pushes enemies and allies when you aren't targeting and thus can Shift attack a spot and force move any enemy or ally. Also there should be no collision with Allies(Their created objects can still have it Ice wall and bell) And the new changes they are making to dodge roll where you can roll though small enemies and through tiny gaps should solve the issues with being surrounded without either obvious traps or creating a train.

[@bmck1124]

I played through the game and into endgame as Warrior and didn’t have a problem getting cornered. Happened once or twice at the start. And I realized I was making a mistake running into packs. So I approached fights more strategically and never had a issue where I thought it was unfair. It was almost always my fault.

[@alexanderadams9008]

@@polarbear3262watch your back…

[@oopsurdeadm8]

I play warrior stun build. Killing mobs is SO fun. Killing bosses on the other hand? Not so fun...BUT, killing a boss by rolling around and smacking it every 5 seconds makes me feel like an overpowered god trolling bosses.

[@GodHexe]

They gonna nerf you eventually

[@tokebak4291]

Still a boring game.

[@rigormortis3219]

@@GodHexe they already did

[@rigormortis3219]

@@tokebak4291 half a million disagree

[@tokebak4291]

@@rigormortis3219 cope HARDER lmao

[@c0refreAk.]

its the bad way of hard, Sanctum is an RNG clown fiesta, lab was atleast the same for everyone on a daily basis. Just too many random mods that can brick your run instantly. Also Sanctum inherently favours rangerd classes, who would have thought that?

[@nuance7183]

git gud

[@hellowrld5234]

@@nuance7183 link ur settlers pob bro

[@Darksiege357]

Biggest thing i want right now is a slightly bigger zoom out and more movement options for all classes. I really wish every single class had a modified dodge roll in some regard. Ive only played merc and am in act 3 right now. Having a grappling hook or something as an alternative to dodge roll would be so cool

[@anthonygen251]

When you invest a lot of time as a developer making an expansive skill tree with lots of choices, you do yourself a disservice by making it very hard or costly to respec. Free respecing allows for people to tinker, experiment and have a lot more fun. Alternatively you’ll just end up with people min/maxing and cookie cutter builds a lot more than just letting players have fun

[@TheeGoodSir]

yes but if you make it free it loses SOME value, should it cost as much as it does....maybe not .....but free....probably not a good idea, also it makes running meta too easy if you mess up and then are like im just gonna run meta, imstead it forces younto only make a few key changes to your nodes, also dont see why people are saying its too high, ive respeced three time comepletely cause i wanted to build more efficient paths

[@Syphirioth]

And gives is starting location on tree as option instead of once again locked under class... I hated this in poe1 and hate it in poe2. It would be so much more nice if I could grab mercenary and just start at witch location with my passives. That would mean the ascendacies are the only thing that matters between classes pretty much and not skill tree position also.

[@anthonygen251]

@ in my opinion making it free doesn’t lose any value at all. All you really do is incentivize even more people to look up builds and guides rather than give the option to AB themselves to see what they enjoy. I understand the cost will be low for beginner level progression. For a game like Diablo where you have a fraction of the choices as PoE the cost to respec would be more palatable

[@E7ernalWolf]

It costs fuck all.

[@silentverge3768]

​@@E7ernalWolf yea, it's a non issue.

[@NEOrdinary]

I am also guilty of complaining about the difficulty, but I don‘t want them to just nerf the bosses etc. What I am sad/mad about is that the experimentation they promised us is very restricted. I have no problems with magic item currency, but rare item currency drops are very lacking. What I also believe is that many people are not using vendors because they need the gold for respeccing their passive tree when they made some mistakes. The respec cost is far to high right now. I talked to someone who spent like 80k gold on changing their build, the new build sucked and then they just dropped the character because its easier to just redo a new character. Also some things need to be balanced of course. Fire spells and Ignite suck atm for example.

[@malyman316]

What you yapping ? You mix fire with poison clouds and one shot everything , people are just weak for now, later on they ginna cry its too easy, gamers truly dont deserve anything, because there is no more true gamers, only complaining one brain cell idiots, that dont even read descriptions in games and cry all over internet , and then they all come together, and ruin all games

[@PraxesArdenn]

Most of the complainers haven't even realized yet that your secondary weapon can be a different type, allow you access to all of those skills, and automatically swaps itself. 99% of the people in game are locked into the assumed class weapon.

[@lunaticker6842]

@@malyman316 If you read the OP's post very carefully, you will notice the issues he wrote about did not concern difficulty, but rather a very specific mechanic in the game concerning resource costs, and whether or not the drop rates are satisfactory.

[@Eleriol84]

When it comes to exprimenting and crafting PoE 2 has really not lived up to the promises of alot of currency drops and more acess to crafting your own gear. Poe 2's crafting system remind me much more about poe 1 back in 2013 which objectively war terrible. We are also missing some rather crucial currencies such as Alteration & scouring orbs which makes crafting even magic items a "slam and hope for the best" kind of a deal. Also the rune system dosent even come close to replacing the crafting bench as a way to plug any holes in your stats as it suffers from the same issues of you barely having any artificers orbs and your reluctant to use them because of that and this makes rune more of an endgame system which as far as i understand was not the intention. There is alot to love in poe2 but this part of the game im really dissapointed in and i dont think the recent buffs to currency drops is going to be enough as we are lacking to many of the key crafting currencies that we had in poe

[@stanislavkimov2779]

I really think we should have several free full respec items per campaign.

[@ProxCQ]

The issue with the new labyrinth is that it isn't hard. It has a fake difficulty spike called Honour. The labyrinth itself is very easy, but the boss hits you once, you lose all honour and get kicked out losing all progress. Melee classes might not even make it to the boss before they run out of honour because just a few hits will remove all of it. This is not fun.

[@DarkAnimist]

A "fake" difficulty spike? If its making the game harder for you that doesn't sound "fake" at all. Working as intended. Also not a new mechanic, it's the sanctum league mechanic from PoE. It's a TRIAL for a reason. You cant just potion spam your way through it, you need to get good and not get hit. All the mobs in sanctum have slow attacks with big telegraphing animations so you have plenty of time to avoid them.

[@Shadowbane_]

I only completed it with a powerhouse monk being OVER 20 levels above the recommended ao I could use a "ranged" melee to take out mobs and burst the boss before it can do anything. Honour's sucks, the negative modifiers in trial of chaos is terrible. I don't even want to know what the 3rd trial is.

[@MrPWN96]

It's the same as having time trials as endgame content, it rewards perfection and not perseverance. Just unfun to a majority of players, despite what Dark Souls nolifers might say defending this game. I can get to the boss room keeping above 80% honor pretty easily, but then it becomes sweaty rolling dps check time as they spawn shit all around the arena to spew fire. I'm failing because I'm not getting an A+ with triple extra credit, I'm getting fucked for getting that A- and told to git gud

[@rulercamelot3687]

Can agree it's hard, especially since I'm a tank build. But I think it's important since it's essentially a dps check, and I would be building too much defense without it.

[@mo-em1ke]

@@ProxCQ I did mine on warrior on 3rd try, wasn't that hard

[@conartist831]

one thing thats interesting to me about the cost of respecing, i think it should be very cheap if not free in the beta, if the point of the beta is to get players to interact with as much as possible effects in their system.

[@kmartgrindergaming]

this

[@freedomdst]

i prefer arpg's when they drop you surprise items that make your gameplay fun, like diablo 2, torchlight 2, borderlands 1, etc. and not spending 30 mins in town re rolling stats on an item like most diablo/poe copies. Diablo 4 was like this at first, then you realize you get the same few legendaries from lvl 1 to max lvl and it gets a lot more boring.

[@twinstars8812]

I 100% agree with his take on mob blocking, it is such an unnecessary mechanic that adds nothing of value to the core game play. It's just stupid.

[@bojangles5226]

i've died more from mob blocking and not being able to roll out than i have for any other mechanic in the game.

[@lyandoli24]

@@bojangles5226same here 😂

[@E7ernalWolf]

Completely disagree. It's a mechanic like any other. You need to understand when you encounter mobs that are likely to swarm you like the beetles, and then play around it. By the same logic of not liking body blocking, I could say that enemies shouldn't stun, slow, or cause flinch.

[@twinstars8812]

@@E7ernalWolf There is a big difference between the current body blocking implementation vs Stun/Slow. I don't think it's a fair comparison. That difference being the current collision for those blocking is a mess, while stun/slow all have relatively clean hit boxes. The body blocking needs some major work. Remember people were defending Soul's bad camera when fighting certain large boss at the beginning? They also claimed you need "Skill" to set the camera right and plan your movement so your view don't get blocked by the boss. Now, most people have agreed that the camera angels are just bad for certain fights and it has nothing to do with skill. I feel the same for body blocking, it needs to be done in a better way to serve it's purpose.

[@roxyhawk4876]

POE 2 made my year

[@Kado1609]

luckely just before it ends

[@MurrayLime]

winners win

[@skywillfindyou]

That's very sad to read

[@YIPPIHEE]

my year MADE poe 2

[@PainIsBetterThanHate]

POE2 is the most boring game I ever played. Only game I’ve ever refunded in my entire 38 years of gaming. Played 10 hours. Got to level 38. Never died. Dominated all content. It’s just so boring. BOOOOORRRING. Tedious. Uninspired. Easily refunded

[@panthrax555]

As someone who only made it to L8, I had the same issue of lack of loot and it was boring. I had no idea I was meant to check vendors and disenchant gear for crafting.

[@Palaecro]

Honestly some controller issues, quality of life swapping between kbm and controller and the odd bug are the only issues. These games are meant to be hard, everything else so far about the game is great!

[@will.42069]

My graphics card is fried so I’ve been on console - when playing with my friends I noticed they can basically steal everything that drops since when you’re in combat with a controller you can’t interact with items whereas MnK can.

[@gilney.mathias]

6:00 he says that, but then GGG goes and buffs everything... Maybe, just maybe, people have the right complains sometimes...

[@troydanable]

No, as a hardcore gamer, these complaints from these most likely idiots, what would happen is plebs get their nerfs because they can't spend 10 minutes to learn the new movements and starts and actually get good. And then the people that complained would be making the same complaints "game to easy" But I guarantee if the people complaining actually stfu and played the game for a week they might actually realise its not that hard once their skill is up. But I have seen this shit happen to another of games iv needed out over the years

[@sdm6054]

People had these same complaints about D4, and that game was specifically designed for toddlers. I take little stock in serial complainers.

[@gilney.mathias]

@@sdm6054 and yet GGG made these changes... again, u guys are completely crazy bro... ignore all criticism is literally the same as complain about everything, both are crazy. And GGG isn't blizz, they listen and do their own thing, like not putting phase on dodge, so i guess we can trust them a bit better...

[@lokhaxz803]

@@troydanable "as a hardcore gamer" hahahahaha bro

[@contemporarymale]

@@lokhaxz803like, you can smell the sweat through the app

[@Anukinihun]

I'm playing as Warrior and I'm destroying people, I'm level 22 and beat the act one boss in just 4 attempts. Warrior class in my opinion is actually kinda broken, I can clear out massive waves of enemies with one bone shatter.

[@DnASingularity]

Yup same here. People complaining about body block? bro I dodge mob packs just so I can run past em, aggro more packs, run to a corner and splash all of em at once. That was the mines and the secret passage in act 2 though so we'll see what happens later on. Balbalba was kinda annoying cuz she damn fast but still I only died once cuz I was standing still waiting for the poison to clear the room xD.

[@Redribbo]

you won't beat rathbreaker, your honour will deplete before you can beat him

[@thereaversden6847]

I didn't like Warrior at first... club and shield is cheeks. But once I got a great hammer, holy hell did that change everything. I mean, having God tier gear drops definately helped too early on but still. Insane how strong they can get by comparison to say Monk or Ranger.

[@zuephillips3450]

Since you guys are apparently 1 hitting everything and happy. They should make the game easier so other people can enjoy it. You can’t one hitting any harder so the game would be the EXACT same experience for you

[@goon009]

I mean the unga bunga build is meant for stupid people that don't want to think so I don't know...

[@dwsnmadeit]

One of the bosses i really loved was the guy who has the fire canisters at all 4 corners of the room, during my first few attempts I let the boss run into / attack the flame canisters and I kept dying over and over due to having nowhere to dodge. I didnt realize till about my 6-7th try on cruel that you can actually kite the boss in certain ways to avoid having him destroy the cannisters, ultimately making the fight 10x easier without burning ground everywhere. This is a great example of a punishment that makes sense, and might seem unfair but once you figure out the mechanics and how to play around it, it can feel very rewarding to figure out the progression.

[@ItsMasq]

EDIT: Yes, I visit the vendors often but lack of gold and my current weapon and attributes on it make vendor purchases not worth it 95% of the time. I spent upwards of 4 hours trying to beat Jamanra as a warrior. I love the game but dang. Granted I’m a new player with zero prior PoE experience. My main gripe is that there isn’t enough weapon drops to be viable. HOWEVER this does make it extremely satisfying when you beat a boss. BUT the loot they drop is lackluster IMO.

[@evans178]

Is this including vendor ? Are you checking them? are you breaking items for upgrading shards ?

[@TheBeefPudding]

They buffed drops today

[@andyh2783]

You gotta disenchant and craft man.....the answer to your problem is right there in front of you already in the game

[@djandjb1]

I don’t even get buying from vendors, like in any rpg. The best gear is never with the vendors, and it’s RNG crap that will be gone by the time you have the money necessary to get what is essentially a slightly better random drop. You might as well stack up on luck and just farm areas. I just never understood caring about vendors in a game like this

[@_Diktator]

A lot of bosses are just not designed for melee. You can only beat them if you SKIP all their mechanics (by overleveling or having an OP oneshot build). All those people saying "skill issue", are basically just skipping mechanics, that those people who are struggling have to do over and over to take a boss down.

[@glitchyghosting5798]

Played it last night. It's difficult, but in a good way. I died a fair few times. I don't want to just demolish everything I run across.

[@thisGuy481]

Yes you do, it's an arpg not dark souls.

[@toddtaylor6506]

@@thisGuy481 No you don't that's a boring ass ARPG if you're a god playing against fleas.

[@jeremiahsmith8499]

​@@thisGuy481 Stop telling other people what they should enjoy.

[@thisGuy481]

@@jeremiahsmith8499 Sorry, people are just confused.

[@lili-cw6xl]

@@jeremiahsmith8499 than dont do the same lol tipical poe 2 fan

[@vladabond1904]

I just wish a ton of skills weren't weapon locked, shit I wanna do a flicker strike build, but I'd be forced to use a quarter staff only when in Poe 1 you'd simply pop the skill as a gem directly in your gear and you're good to go all you needed was a melee weapon that's it. My family & I are playing this, I myself a poe 1 player as well as my son a poe 1 player, and it's extremely uncomfortable and very inconvenient to be stuck using 1 weapon type just to try enjoy making a particular build. We're having some fun, but it'd be a much more fulfilling experience if we had more freedom with making builds and more flexibility with theory crafting.

[@moonasha]

the intent is for your build to use two weapons. You can set it up so when you use flicker strike, you auto switch to the staff and you don't even notice. In the staff weapon set you can have something like 20 unique skill points, as well as any auras you want. It will make more sense when the 4 or 5 other weapon classes get added and we see the build possibilities. In other words, the game is unfinished. Who'dathunk

[@Zaelthran]

The only thing I don’t really like so far is the necessity to go back to the camp and sell/shard equip due to the small inventory or to better say, I keep on dropping item that occupy 6 inventory slots

[@PandorasBox7777]

As far as getting cornered and stunlocked to death, I have some ideas. 1. A skill that let's you phase roll through X amount of enemies based on evasion on a 6-10 second cooldown. 2. A skill that allows players to push X amount of enemies X amount of distance based on armor with a 3-5 second cooldown. 3. A skill to allow players to teleport X amount of distance in correlation and in cost of the players energy shield with a 10 second cooldown. This way, each type of build can have some form of escape, but it's not crutch.

[@NickRigas-rd3zv]

They made it so you have 0 hit box in the first half of your I frames

[@PandorasBox7777]

@NickRigas-rd3zv yeah, but that's not as interesting and doesn't inspire different playstyles

[@MontellTheBoy]

I agree with what you said here. My problem with asmons take is that he doesn't factor in the dodge roll implementation. If you could phase through enemies a high evasion character could literally never be killed because you can dodge roll through anything AND anyone. So then to balance that they would have to make the dodgeroll have a cool down which would suuuuucccckkkkk

[@NickRigas-rd3zv]

@@PandorasBox7777 Well you still have other solutions like a blink staff, what youre saying is to add a compulsory skill you essentially have to take, that also requires you to max defense to have an , which favors specific kinds of gameplay while nerfing others. Im pretty sure what youre saying doesnt inspire different playstyle, not the other way around

[@canadianeh4792]

I like the idea of having an evasion check on the body blocking.

[@Bugholeexcalibur]

For real though, you get some awesome gear from vendors. At level 3 or so I bought a wand that gave me a level 3 spell for normal use and a bunch of awesome mods and a offhand with a lot of intelligence.

[@diddykangable]

its genuine feedback from people who are invested into the game. You can't just constantly shit on people because they're not having a good time with it. Hell both asmon and lighty said the didnt have any issues in the game yet they just so happened to be playing one of the strongest builds available at the moment. Different people have different experiences and complaining about the things that suck is how poe1 got to where it is now. Complete schizo take from the original video poster.

[@GL-iy7mj]

Was this before or after asmon rage quitted melee?

[@contemporarymale]

These hardcore sweat lords have all day to study and research the min/max on this title. The rest of us have real jobs and little time.

[@shawn4387]

The only problem I really see with this game is who in the hell is going to want to play through this game ever league that does sound like a boring slog fest to me

[@theWebWizrd]

I don't understand it, but for some reasons people who play this genre seems to like it. You don't have to.

[@kendement071]

@@theWebWizrdhe meant when playing leagues/seasons is to start again with the slow walking/hard difficulty gameplay making the season boring. And it would take weeks to reach the bare minimum

[@Kc-ib8hz]

As they fully release everything, all the abilities and supports, some movement things will come into the game ie improvements to roll or dashes like poe1 and a quicksilver flask equivalent, which will make the game much faster. First few leagues will be very slow but thats also how POE 1 was at the beginning and look at it now, can do all the acts in 8 hours or less - even as a relatively casual player. They know their playerbase doesn't enjoy the acts much past the first time of doing it and will intentionally speed it up in future leagues to the point where you can just steamroll through it with minimal itemization - especially when item bloat becomes a thing.

[@XcrazymanIII]

You clearly never played path of exile 1 season you would understand if so

[@lokhaxz803]

@@XcrazymanIII you don't play as a snail in poe1

[@likeorasgod]

But if you want it to be hard isn't that what the hardcore mode for vs the standard? Standard should be average gamers and casuals. Also a lot of other games vender gear is trash compared to what is drop in those games so folks don't think to look at the venders. I think that is a big issue a lot of folks have cause most other games vender gear is trash.

[@sousuzumi]

Hardcore is not "hard mode". Hardcore is permadeath. It pushes for a very different playstyle, regardless of difficulty.

[@padrinozerocool]

About the vendor system, everytime you level up, the vendor items refresh. SSF player know this.

[@MrTeamGuy]

don't worry, they will gaslight themselves into believing it only refresh after beat Act final boss

[@adamcunningham8044]

But it’s normally trash gear there’s should be loot in a loot game shouldn’t have to rely on vendors when you level up dumbest mechanic ever

[@zSilverGuardian]

​@@adamcunningham8044just because its white or magic doesn't mean it's trash. I have so many rare that i build from white. That's how the game work "crafting"

[@adamcunningham8044]

@ if I want to make my own items I’ll play D2, it’s 2024 I shouldn’t have to combine things to make weapons or armor in game slows you down and makes the experience not immersive at all, 90% of my time spent was in town looking through trash gear that didn’t help me, y’all have fun with your wannabe ARPG I’ll face roll everything in D4 day 3

[@Andrew-it7fb]

Which would be helpful if there was actually useful items on vendors.

[@OldManArmStrength]

It's not the difficulty. It's that they wont do anything about scammers and the whole gatekeeping getting to endgame being held behind the said trade scamming. Good luck getting a response trying to buy something

[@benmcmn6725]

This is my first time playing any POE besides a small go at the start of POE 1 and I found the difficulty to be spot on. Gold was absolutely in abundance opening weekend as well. That alone made it clear they wanted you to purchase from vendors. I had 25k by the middle of act 2 and realised I need to be spending it much more aggressively. Began purchasing rares and socketed items purely to farm those materials on top of what I was already getting. The changes they've made this week should be great quality of life changes though but I was def nervous for them to make things too abundant too quickly

[@mikedarling905]

getting swarmed by little bugs in act 2, is not fullfilling punishment.

[@therealsourc3]

Almost can't see them and they do a ton of damage, then on top of that the insane amount of trash mobs swarming you where one of them has the potential to 2 shot you.. Fun right?

[@cyy3327]

It is your problem of not having secondary weapon that allow you jump or break out with skill like Two handed Mace. It is your free jail card. Learn and stop trying to play a game with single button build that allows you to instant killing everything in screen.

[@AnoterosHershy]

Boneshatter solves this easily lmao

[@lokhaxz803]

@@cyy3327 you don't have leap slam at that point

[@tesladrew2608]

@@cyy3327 you can't really weapon swap when you have a sceptre

[@lonniemeek4834]

They actually do tell you to check the vendors when you level up. Its a message on the loading screens, for me it loads so fast that I only see it for a second but its there

[@ericdesjardins3301]

my biggest issue with this game is I never actually die to the monsters, i die to circles on the ground that blend in with other effects and i can't see them, i die to after death effects trying to read an item drop, then lose the rest of the items around it cause I'm dead.

[@visualosity7116]

24:47 when I roll and I’m pushed by mobs into the wall as I’m rolling, stun blocked, dead. The jackass that said skill issue is idiotic, when you roll and a mob is pushing you, that’s bad design 🤣 30:39 again mine beginning act 2, when I walk around corner and mobs swarm, I’m not chaining, go to roll and pushed to wall

[@Asto508]

Rolling isn't phasing you out of existence. What you expect this mechanic to be? A get-out-of-jail-card?

[@astrl4117]

100%. People don't want to admit it's a game design issue because saying "skill issue" and stroking their ego is a better option to them lol we all know we've had this issue and I'm sure nobody enjoys when it happens

[@BirdStream88]

If only there were movement gems you could equip.... say leap slam or teleport, to get out of those situations.

[@implodingllama2092]

Good news is it’s been patched

[@Mike-hy8cs]

Guys you do realize you can equip movement skills that get you out of a situation like this right? Lol jesus christ people are so dumb. Keep body blocking if you dont run a movement skill then you should be punished for putting yourself in a bad situation simple as that

[@z0ttel89]

The guy who made the video isn't even in act 5 yet. He has no idea what he's talking about. Just a massive GGG shill who is just as one-sided as the people he's accusing of being one-sided. I enjoy PoE 2 a lot right now, but there's OBVIOUS problems with the game.

[@Wachi2000]

no yellow drops no regal orbs you can craft items but only blue items that you will never use anyway because you probably got something better .... sorry but the loot is a problem especially with maps that big where you have to run around for 30 minutes to find something ... imagine you run into the 20th dead end and find a golden chest that actually drops more than 20 gold and a grey item that would improve the fun of the game tremendously ... difficutly seems to be fine from my pov but trials can be a little bit cursed imo

[@Hobosdkcheese]

But you can upgrade the normal items you don’t need to only find a gold item

[@tigerpaws111]

Diablo 3 was the same. The whole genre is like that, I don't understand the issue. There's no yellow drops because if there was early in the game there would be 0 difficulty and bosses would be piss easy and it would be boring like D4 is. I've had quite a few yellows and you can buy yellows often from the vendor.

[@Wachi2000]

@tigerpaws111 imagine now you wont get your yellows and good upgrades from vendors but from actual drops while running around for 30 minutes in giant maps ... and sorry yellow chests not being anything special just defeats the purpose of them being yeloow chests .., I understand where you are coming from if you are just a brainless drone anyway why not run around in circles pushing two buttons in a video game too

[@folkewigg]

The one bad thing is in the endgame and that’s the fact that you loose your waystone if you die. There so many on ground effects, one shot mechanics or you could simply disconnect. It doesn’t feel like it’s worth your time. The campaign is awesome and just difficult enough.

[@Nrgyte]

The problem isn’t the difficulty of the bosses mechanics, it’s that the loot system is so shitty that ur severely underserved for every single one of them

[@imatree_barklol5033]

this is it

[@legendofmirr]

Okay, then reload and kill things, level up a bit. You expect to blow through everything all in a linear fashion with no road blocks? On diablo 2 you could get all the way to act 5 and still not have had much drop. Then your friend sat next to you could have had about 15 uniques. Sometimes you can blast through, sometimes you gotta farm andariel/mephisto for a bit. You are just a noob.

[@xcolmanrickx3027]

​@legendofmirr nah i gotta agree with the op here. The loot is terrible ive had to buy all my gear from the shops in order to be geared enough to do the side quests. All my loot is either wrong class, common or the stats are so garbage that it's only useful for currency. I've seen maybe 3 to 2 items that I use that dropped from a boss or mob that being a ring, the only 2 rings that ever dropped during my 12 hours of gametime. Don't get me wrong the game is super fun and it's the best arpg we ever had but this loot problem needs to be fixed someway cuz I didn't know I would have to window shop for new gear every level.

[@xcolmanrickx3027]

The fact that my only unique that dropped was a club when I was playing sorceress. Extremely disappointing

[@rulercamelot3687]

​@@xcolmanrickx3027Actual question and not just criticism, what's your loot rarity? I have mine at like 14% and I feel I get an adequate amount of item drops. I also find using new magic items is very beneficial Moreso than old rares since they have higher base stats, which is the most important part imo

[@Draethar]

Act 2 boss was tough the first character I made but the second one I one attempted it. The more you play the more you learn the mechanics and how to set yourself up for success.

[@Breakbeat.]

That's just it. Every time I roll a character the game seems to be easier 🤣

[@MikeyJ28]

The original Lab was amazing. I think Asmongold is majorly cooked here, Sanctum does NOT belong in PoE 2.

[@tngardener1087]

At 24:37 the only thing I don’t like with bodies blocking is another player blocking me or when a melee decides to start attacking behind me I get shoved into a group of mobs.

[@jesse.p2263]

So the Dev guy lied to us, Melee sucks, make a witch bois!

[@earthphoenix7068]

It’s just because there are no swords or axes and we don’t have access to those skills. Not enough flexibility rn

[@RedAvery1]

@@earthphoenix7068it three business days to swing my two handed mace

[@gsczo]

Warrior is awesome, I can't even touch other classes since they feel awesome

[@scottr.7775]

Only problem with Warrior is that armor as a stat objectively is bad. Compared to evasion and energy shield, it’s worse. And this is because most of the game that is objectively hard doesn’t use physical damage and as a melee character getting hit by ranged attacks that armor doesn’t negate at all and all this while standing in pools of blood or poison because you have to run up to the enemy.

[@gluttonyfang6674]

4:18 Finally, now warrior players could enjoy the game, they just need to ditch their desired class and just play Witch instead.

[@seriousdopamine4404]

The warrior is actually my favorite class right now. I switched from witch to warrior and have been unstoppable ever since

[@tinycat8338]

After playing more. They shouldn't change body blocking or difficulty. Just the currency increase, which is a great move.Loot poofing isn't good but there is nothing wrong with more exp (mobs respawning).

[@AlbusPercivalWulfrykDumbledore]

I'm fine with body block as long as there's enaugh space. Something has to be changed about those ritual altars in act 1. it's on the worst zone possible with little space for maneuvering and tight bridges, .Once you activate the altar, it spawns like 20-30 mobs and you can't escape until they're dead. I'm sure many player diead there purely because of bad luck and not because of skill issue.

[@tinycat8338]

@AlbusPercivalWulfrykDumbledore if I remember that part (rituals) correctly, the solution is most likely to start the ritual and then bottleneck them on the small bridges. I only did the quest on 2 toons, sorc and witch, and I just circled the area, not against the walls, and widdled them down. Melee feels too bad to the community, so I haven't bothered to roll one, so I have no idea about how that would fair in that situation.

[@KnightKenzie]

After 2 Geonor trys I ran back, tracked down the map boosses, and had to rebuild my resistences. Scince him I have a resistence ring of each type in my inventory to adapt to enemy types. Love learning bosses again.

[@Gimpo925]

This video has hilarious timing because GGG just posted a new patch that addresses like all these issues

[@justanobody0]

it was already perfect, so I'm glad the game is more perfect now

[@Gimpo925]

@ I don’t think it was perfect, they don’t have swords yet. How am I to cleave my enemies without a bladed weapon?

[@InkyMuste]

⁠@@Gimpo925 There are no swords? Wtf

[@Gimpo925]

@ or axes, if you click on those weapons in the skills menu it says everything is coming soon, hard to believe the game is literally only 50% with how big it already is

[@NickRigas-rd3zv]

@@InkyMuste items and skills are being developed with their corresponding classes, so the sword comes out with the duelist, dagger with shadow etc

[@MoNk3yBoYbRaD]

This is the first time I've ever played this type of game. Nothing similar to this ever. I don't think this game is hard at all. All the basics are explained well enough for me to understand and anything I don't know i can just find it on Google or KZbin.

[@MoNk3yBoYbRaD]

Also I'm doing a two handed warrior build and idc how many times I gotta try a boss, I'm gonna make it work. 😂

[@tesladrew2608]

then you have a decent bulid. Congratulations. Now run a cold blood mage.

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

"Tactical error" you mean full clear the map. Its one thing to make you need to fight monsters and its another to make you full clear white mobs because otherwise they get surrounded and body blocked to death

[@Neriehem]

you don't need to full-clear any area once you know the layout. In Cruel I cleared act1 in about 1h 30m. Only the zone between cemetery and farm area made me full clear it as I was looking for Crowbell boss and missed it. First time going through the game I was much slower, was trying out skill combinations and finding what I want to do. In Cruel campaign re-play it's basically smooth sailing with some reality checks in between when I'm getting too cocky. Once I make a new character it's going to be even more smooth as I'll besically be going through the same zones 3rd or 4th time and have learned their general layout. Once acts 4-6 drop it'll be slow again for first time going through, finding what's actually beneficial, fighting all mini- and maxi-bosses to learn what's there to learn. And we're back to zooming through campaign again.

[@annojance]

Worse yet is when you full clear everything, but then you activate a ritual you get enclosed in a small area and overwhelmed by a throng of enemies using a build designed around letting minions distract enemies to let you create distance to kite - on hardcore. Next build was designed entirely different to avoid that specific scenario despite the previous build working really well in every other scenario.

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

@annojance skill dif started at character creation lol. The ritual interaction felt terrible on my ranged character. They just spawn around you and when you respawn at the checkpoint the original mobs are already there. Terrible gameplay loop that is not a skill check

[@manwithnewname]

Just walk away from them lol you don't need to full clear an area even if you don't know the layout just keep moving and don't get trapped

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

@manwithnewname oh yes, the dashing dogs, fast crabs, etc will surely slow down so I can outrun them. You aren't even adding to the conversation if your comment is " just do the thing".

[@AlphaSeagull]

This was my comment on the original video, I just wanna repeat it here: As a big Elden Ring player, I can't help but see all the parallels between this and the Souls community. Picture this: There's a studio that can do no wrong, delivers nothing but quality at a bargain and deserves much more praise than they get. This studio makes a new game. One that delicately works out the flaws of its predecessor and reworks the systems to support new mechanics and feel better, but in order to do that, the game needs to be very different. So different that it's the first thing all the players notice, and because it's so wildly different, they don't understand it, so they're all doing poorly. They're not playing a solved game anymore, so everything feels unnecessarily hard. They feel like a new player in a game that doesn't appear new. This creates a cognitive dissonance that can either intrigue players even more, or turn them off. Like mature individuals, many players make the rational decision to blame everything but themselves. Suddenly it's a development issue, suddenly it's artificial difficulty, suddenly the balance is all over the place, suddenly everything is bad and needs tweaking, suddenly this studio who we've trusted our lives with for a decade have no idea what they're doing. However, give some time and an open mind, people realize that's not the case. The game is exactly in the state the devs want it to be (for the most part) and as soon as the community embraces these differences, all is right in the world and the game goes on to be a GOTY contender, maybe even a winner. This story ring any bells? Beat for beat, this is EXACTLY what happened with the souls community when Elden Ring came out and I'm watching it all unfold again with PoE. It was hilarious to watch the first time, still hilarious now.

[@danielh657]

for context, this guy had beef with r/poe before since he couldnt take a tiniest bit of criticism about how his videos are structured and he blindly praising every single decision made by ggg even tho its universally questionable. and this time, unsurprisingly, again he agreed with all the changes and balances even tho zizaran spoke out about it such as the loot drop.i liked his videos at first and even subbed but over time, i just found his content dull and lack of originality.

[@mjolnir9421]

he really is a shill

[@0Amnael0]

As PoE2 is right now I do not give a shit about it. What I really want is an update to the graphics of PoE1 and if my memory serves me right that is how PoE2 started out. The decision to change and make it a whole new game was made later on and now it's difficult to not feel like the development of PoE1 has been stunted ever since. I'm happy GGG seems to make a game that they themselves enjoy more and that they have monumental success with it, but it seems to come at the cost of the game I actually liked. Of course all of this is just feelings and I have no clue what is happening behind the scenes or if some of the great updates we've seen to PoE1 come from the mechanics designed for PoE2, so for now I'm just hoping PoE1 gets the updates I wish it already had

[@madmanali93]

I don't find the game difficult just slow and unrewarding. It really is getting boring.

[@christophernewton1315]

Yup, no loot in a game based around getting loot brilliant game design lol

[@christophernewton1315]

Yup

[@jakobwaack4148]

The maps are too large for how slow you move. The backtrack because you hit a dead end becomes frustrating

[@trylow4u538]

Womp womp

[@beniaminradomir9798]

Then go play POE1, I love the way it is right now and don't want it to change

[@MrKentogo]

As an SSF i actually have some problems with transformations and augmentations orbs atm (lvl 62), and im picking up almost everything to disenchant, granted that i also try to craft alot (since thats what GGG want). Id say if they boosted the droprates for low lvl orbs or more shards when u disenchant, more people would craft more which means more item upgrades which means, which mean, etc etc

[@teletes]

the difficulty is not the problem: the lack of rewards is. U fight a hard boss that takes u a few tries and u end up with just a rare and several blues? and that's the reward if u are lucky...

[@DayWalker745]

6:05

[@E7ernalWolf]

Ikr? You should get a full set of your perfect gear because anything else would be unnecessary and unfulfilling.

[@rigormortis3219]

you dont get it.....ive been using a white item from act 2 all the way threw act3......do you even use any of the orbs and crafting ? or do you sell them and just wait for loot drops?

[@Gumlass1]

Professional gamer who plays games professionally "I don't think it's that hard"

[@JV-md7jn]

2:44 cringe alert

[@SensibleKing]

I was just picking up all the loot and frequently returning to town to sell it for gold (since, unlike in PoE1, teleports no longer have scroll restrictions). Saved up some gold, pulled a random gold item from the vendor, and went on happily. If I got even luckier, I could sell such gear for 1-2ex. I don’t understand why people have so many problems with gear at the beginning of the game. It’s much harder in endgame content when you need to craft gear with good stats - that’s where the real challenge is.

[@DreddE34]

Tip for New Players or Players that cant decide what passive to take, Remember just that simple thing: GO FOR DMG as muich as you can, its easier to compensate missing durability with Skill and movement, then it is to compensate missing dmg with longer fights, if you have to decide which way you go, offensive is better defensive, if you follow that Rule, you will do atleast enough dmg.

[@ERRoRsLand]

By the end of act 1 i felt like i played through 10 acts of poe 1 but worse.

[@Burlybigfoot]

@ERRoRsLand what do you mean worse, the game is a masterpiece in the making

[@maxkking]

The guy took every point made on reddit and went against it, shit takes from a guy that didn't make it to (early) end game, invalidating players experiences while barely having played the game himself.

[@airget]

I could see an issue in which the upgrade items are applicable. Since the upgrade items are good for any level, people have the "too good to use" mentality, especially with how barren the drops can feel at times. So it could make more sense to have upgrade items that only work for a certain level range, which would encourage players to experiment more, plus they could then make those earlier upgrade drops more common of a drop compared to later on where it may drop less often.

[@bUtMyRiGhTs]

I think path of exile 2 is fun. I've had to refight a few bosses a few times but it keeps me coming back for more. My only issue is at the time I'm playing it on a PS5 and the game performance needs some optimization (even at 1080 res and 60fps). When it gets full release I'll probably play it on my PC.

[@jamesross2328]

As for the bodyblock maybe add a short cooldown to player stun/stagger to were you can roll through mobs durring the cooldown.

[@MrhibyeTV]

The most I died on a boss was 5 times to the last boss in Act 3. However, I will say that the difficulty and intensity of the boss fights sometimes leaves me wanting a more casual experience. Logging on and having to struggle the whole time sometimes feels like too much.

[@barbaricboi8905]

33:01 literally its about the kind of character you want. Have both options as a powerup, you can either be a mob manipulator with pushing, or more of a runner that just skirts past them with phasing.

[@FdMBIOSat]

the "everytime you loose control of your character it isnt fun" hit hard. i am a dnd dm and for a player it feels amazing to stun a monster but when a monster stuns the player or takes control of their action it is just unfun. there are alot of ways to play stuff like that out but it is never fun end discouraged to take away player agency. i think same applies to computer games

[@turdyberry9872]

Problem is not difficulty its just the loot. They told us you will mostly focus on crafting, but its just not there. 1/2 weapons per level in the shops, if the rolls are bad you wont have an upgrade this level or you need a really lucky drop

[@firianblackproductions9693]

The main problem with the less loot is that its so much more likely for you to not get an upgrade. If you finally see your first rare halfway through Act 2 and its not even something you can use... youre gonna hate the loot system compared to the guy who ended up slowly getting loot that he could use and was an upgrade

[@johncreed7436]

I can appreciate the difficulty but the drops are rough and endgame needs a little tweaking imo

[@donalddouds6033]

I think the one thing they do need to consider changing is “Ascension” process. Using one of the most derided and least played (not the most hated that title is reserved for lake of Kalandra league) mechanics as the way and means to get your “ascension” class was kind of a head scratcher

[@FrodoOG1]

The only thing I'm upset about is the game crashing in loading screens to the point it freezes up my whole pc. What's even worse is that there are ppl with the same problem that keep playing, not knowing it can and will damage your hardware. You can do some things to help keep your pc from getting fried or freezing up, but they shouldn't have an issue like this. It might not affect many, but it can have a big impact on the few if they don't know the dangers.

[@frankschwarz408]

9:25 I never played PoE1. I played D4. in D4 I never bought shit from vendors. Some how I knew to check the vendors for upgrades in this game. Lets not encourage hand holding. Say you give in and now theres a message telling players to go check vendors on level up. Those same players will find something else to want their hand held on.

[@davryder12]

I think the toughest thing most players and people in general is admitting "I messed up" or " I fucked up" and seeing that it is not the games fault that you are not interacting with it correctly.

[@brotherrogue2310]

one thing that has pissed me off, is rare mobs near the entrance to a map, happened to me the other day, i had two rare hard mobs with aoe abilities, safe to say, I didnt survive, I have video evidence on my shorts. Also, I have a bug on my character where If I swap my chest piece, I can't enter demonform, so even if I get a better body armor, which I have and would like to start using, I can't because I cant use demonform.... so I've shelved it for now. about gold and respeccing, as soon as I realized how important gold was, I went through the campaign looting and selling EVERYTHING, even white items, im now sat on 600k gold, comfortable. Granted, it was kinda tedious to teleport back to town 5-6 times in a single map, but all in all, it made sense to do so. Why cant we remove runes from gear ? like gems and jewels, doesn't make sense to not be able to.