Why everyone wants to work at FAANG (Facebook/Meta, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, and Google)

[@hellomayuko]

Ok ok fam I got it, let's just call it "FAANG/MAANG/MANGA/GAFA/Big Tech" every time.

[@danghoangluong2942]

@A It's better to have Microsoft in

[@Bukubuku_chagama-1]

@@danghoangluong2942 M-meta A-apple G-google N-netflix A-amazon M-microsoft Sounds much better and is easy to pronounce

[@salsichalivre5401]

But you have to say it entirely every time you would mention it or it is not valid.

[@tolulopeolagunju5013]

@@Bukubuku_chagama-1 Google is now Alphabet, so more like: M-Microsoft A-Alphabet A-Apple N-Netflix A-Amazon

[@bitwisetube]

You flex like a boss 😏

[@Basta11]

FANG companies and Ivy League type schools are brands. When you have a brand like this in your resume, you are essentially pre-vetted. Meaning you have gone through the selection process and have succeeded (not fired or kicked out) as a student or employee. You are a safe hire.

[@PerpetualEducation]

We just tell everyone we work for Google. Unpaid of course. We also work for Facebook. They just kinda harvest us like cows. But - Apple, Netflix, and Amazon... we just agree to submit. We pay them.

[@Basta11]

@@PerpetualEducation I miss the point here. What is it?

[@PerpetualEducation]

@@Basta11 Even this comment is "content" - that drives ad sales. So, you are kinda working for Google right now! You can put it on your resume. "Content creator for Google's KZbin platform."

[@Basta11]

@@PerpetualEducation Ok. Let us know how that works out.

[@lowwastehighmelanin]

OR SO THEY THINK lol

[@arte2713]

Everyone's still using the acronym "FAANG" still to represent the "Top" tech companies, but ever since Facebook renamed itself to meta, why haven't we switched to "MANGA" yet :(

[@janirobe]

we can't allow Facebook the courtesy of calling them what they want

[@zhen86]

Google is alphabets

[@ThomasFoolery8]

@@zhen86 it can be MAAAN then lol.

[@harrapanman621]

@@ThomasFoolery8 maaan i need to get a job

[@Mr.MasterOfMind]

also Google is really Alphabet... so itd be MAAAN

[@Synkotic90]

Faang pros: Money Perks Prestige Opportunity Work/life balance Faang cons: Lack of impact Politics Skill stagnation Difficulty leaving due to comfort Small tech perks: Skill advancement Larger impact Closer relationship with boss Potential of massive returns Cons: Poor work/life balance Poor compensation ( sometimes ) Difficult expectations Redundancy and layoffs Office politics Overall I actually think that faang companies are great for a period of time, they're a big help in becoming financially independent. But you run the risk of stagnation and it's difficult to leave these companies because the perks are so enjoyable.

[@captainmichaelj2321]

This is the real analysis I can agree with. Also, the "prestige" factor only works temporarily or superficially, who met a FAANG engineer who only do a few frameworks or language for several years.

[@KenChiwo]

I agree with is summary. I worked at MANGA and start-ups.

[@FelineRaptor-gv4te]

they should add microsoft to the list

[@duythanhish]

@@FelineRaptor-gv4te yeah I don’t know why Microsoft is not there. Maybe Microsoft should take Netflix’s spot.

[@FelineRaptor-gv4te]

@@duythanhish yeah

[@Person-bx1ey]

Had that experience before and after getting a FAANG offer. Was treated like complete trash amongst my CS classmates, guidance counselors, professors. Then they found out I got a FAANG offer and now everyone was my best friend. *rolls eyes*

[@augustmoser7834]

It really is scarry, sad, disheartening, disturbing, kind of even frightening to see people change so quickly when your value changes. Someone started a story about me and I had a hilarious time milking the adulations for several years. It actually really was a freaking hilarious time, I just let them think what they wanted.

[@angelaliu9188]

THIS. you said it sis. I've really been struggling and I don't know what my worth is other than what I can provide or bring to the table. The way that we're evaluated as human beings is crazy and the system is broken. there's no system that can measure our worth.

[@trendeeprod]

And that is exactly the problem with this world of ours 🙄

[@Mysharrr]

@@augustmoser7834 And it doesn't even have to be that big change (like working for FAANG). When I told people I work in IT, they were thinking of something like IT crowd vibe and it was really funny to them. But when I accidentally mentioned how much money I make, they completely changed. And not really for better, now I'm just the "lucky guy" who doesn't understand what are normal people problems. So that's why I don't really talk about salaries now, people cannot get over it.

[@JM-zg2jg]

#BoycottFacebook/Meta It has stifled our social media, gaming and VR progress for years. All the while destroying our self images, politics and privacy. We have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Time to log out and stay that way. Let’s all watch it die together.

[@haruri93]

I completely agree with you on one thing. When I first said I was a software engineer people doubted my abilities but once I said I worked at Apple people started to believe in my coding abilities more.

[@derek400004]

this is exactly why people suck and we can't have nice things. the only literal difference is where you've worked at - sucks they care more about that than you as an actual talent.

[@pvic6959]

except that shouldnt be how things are lmao. I work at one of these and ive seen some pretty silly people. I personally am probably in the bottom half compared to my peers lol

[@AB-et6nj]

Then you must not have been talking to bright people. Only industry idiots think this way

[@derek400004]

@@pvic6959 this self burn is a mood 💯

[@hil449]

@@derek400004 but that makes total sense, how can people know any better? If you have zero accomplishes how do you expect them to recognize you? Why should they value you if you show nothing? I think its fair

[@hellomayuko]

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[@RRJJGGBB]

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[@rebelsdeveloper367]

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[@lissyuloh1957]

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[@littlebear4264]

Congratss Mayuko!!!!

[@rebelsdeveloper367]

@@lissyuloh1957 yeah i dont see it either

[@big_zzzzz]

Holy Cow! Production value took a major jump. Nice level up Mayuko!

[@acupsf]

Had worked at FAANG is like you gradate from Harvard / Standford; it make your future life a lot easier/respected

[@A2Kaid]

Absolutely, the way recruiters treat me now is so different. I have so many reaching out.

[@SriHarshaChilakapati]

My personal view about this is to go for startups in the initial stages of your career. I did that, because in startups, there usually is a lot of work across different verticals and you get to learn a lot. If not working there, at least consider startups for internships. I doubt you will get that level of learning in MAANG companies because there the teams are huge and you will only get to play a small part of the project. However, after 6-7 years in career, that is the great time to get into MAANG in my opinion. It is time you have explored horizontally enough and it's now time to get a specialization in your own vertical. To me, company I choose will depend on the amount of impact that I can deliver personally.

[@DanielTames]

Great comment man!

[@feelosmash3749]

What roles come in "horizontals" and "verticals" ? Is vertical for specialisation in a specific role in the company?

[@SriHarshaChilakapati]

@@feelosmash3749 It has nothing to do with specificity of roles. I used it in the same way we define vertical vs horizontal scaling in engineering System Design. With horizontal scaling, you learn more across the domains. Like you do a bit of web, a bit of frontend, a bit of backend, a bit of mobile app dev and all. Then you will start with vertical scaling, which is where you will choose one of your favourite domains there, and then grow deep into that specific domain. Like you wanted to be a specialist in mobile development for example, that is what you pursue in depth.

[@feelosmash3749]

@@SriHarshaChilakapati ahh I see.. thank u for sharing ur insight. :)

[@danimaxus10]

It's not called MAANG, now is MANGA

[@browntechdaddy]

It’s hard to generalize a FAANG company considering how different the teams are within a company. Each company is like 5 different companies combined into one organization.

[@FelineRaptor-gv4te]

they should add microsoft to the list

[@maxdegreat566]

@@FelineRaptor-gv4te wait why is it not 🤔

[@krawl97ing]

@@maxdegreat566 Coz most software engineers are unaware of the real significance of acronym FAANG

[@HonestObserver]

More than five, really.

[@browntechdaddy]

@@FelineRaptor-gv4te true

[@FinancialAnalysisTJ]

The constant quality upgrade of this channel is inspiring for us small KZbinrs! Congrats on 500k

[@hellomayuko]

omg thank you 🥺 we worked so hard on this one

[@Brickswol]

As an aerospace engineering major, to me FAANG companies seem like to software engineers what SpaceX, blue origin, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman are to us.

[@blossomibudeh2204]

i am neither of those but had this same thought. Also kinda to what US Air Force, BP, Honeywell, and Walmart is to environeng

[@Laura-Yu]

Is it difficult to get into those companies as an aerospace major? I work for one of those companies but in R&D so I was curious

[@0DWalker0]

Similar but there’s software engineers with less than 5 YOE that make more than directors at Lockheed.

[@Brickswol]

@@0DWalker0 That is rare. Outside of FAANG, software engineers have above average salaries but nothing that crazy. Both career paths have respectable salaries.

[@MasterRace023]

​@@BrickswolMore common than you think. Defence companies are terrible, with low pay, boring and slow work and considered dead end career wise. Even outside of FAANG new grad SWEs at microsoft for example are making 200k+ tc which would take you years to get to in defence. And for that matter microsoft is one of the easier companies to interview for in tech.

[@pedromarques9267]

To be able to apply to a FANG company I think is 70% marketing skills (resume, github, social media) and 30% technical skills. I had the opportunity to work with ex-FAANG employees. To sum up, they were both fired because they asked too much money for little return. They are awesome presenters of rushed and underdeveloped products

[@createavity]

It's similar to how people choose their universities. FAANG is like the Ivy League universities. But in the end, it doesn't matter where you go, rather what you do in those stages of life.

[@TuringTested01]

but thats not true, there are many startups doing a great job at providing great pay, great benefits, high growth and most importantly, great interesting work which has impact. So no, FAANG is not like the Ivy league universities... FAANG is a term coined by market investors saying if you invest in these companies, there is a low chance of you losing money and will most likely get a great return

[@shrirammaiya9867]

@@TuringTested01 i think faang is like the ivy league for jobs. But they are not the only good jobs, just like MIT, Stanford UC Berkeley and many more Universities are also good despite not being an ivy league College

[@cheapskait]

@@TuringTested01 I think OP means that people want to work at faang mainly for the prestige

[@hil449]

@@TuringTested01 those startups only hire people in US or Europe, so for us folks in the undeveloped world FAANG is a great opportunity. Im from Brazil and here developers dont earn as much as they deserve, an internship at FAANG is something that simply open doors

[@confusedcaveman5678]

@@hil449 same

[@R5123]

Thank you Mayuko. I am someone who won't work at these tech companies due to how they have abused their power and responsibility, but I definitely was interested at one time as a student for these reasons you laid out. Nice job!!

[@PoojaDutt]

Ahh, I love that you made this. I think it’s definitely an admirable goal, but there are a plethora of amazing companies out there that most people don’t even give a chance. The media favors the few that drive much of the S&P 500 sadly 😩 that being said, there are definitely perks - connections, building at scale, and also just working on large/diverse projects that have a global impact It’s tough because they do a lot of damage as you mentioned - but they also have a much higher chance of being reported for negative practices in the media, especially because as they grow, they start spreading to more and more industries. But even between Amazon and Microsoft, for example, they control a lot of the market in terms of Cloud Services … which enables storage of resources/data for maaaany businesses that promote good out in the world. Just a domino effect? Anyways, I digress! Awesome video - controversial topic , and I totally agree with many of your points 😀

[@JM-zg2jg]

BoycottFacebook/Meta It has stifled our social media, gaming and VR progress for years. All the while destroying our self images, politics and privacy. We have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Time to log out and stay that way. Let’s all watch it die together.

[@explorer221b]

That school bell sound as you change topics is soo nice to hear...

[@MoLewis57]

I'm watching this from the perspective of somebody who started his career in software development long before any of these FAANG companies existed. I'm still working at the same place that hired me 29 years ago ( my first job out of college ), so I guess that make me a real dinosaur these days. Even back then, my older relative told me it would be foolish to stay at my first job, and that I should use it as a stepping stone ( as all of my college friends in tech did ). But you know what? 29 years later, I'm really happy. I feel like people know me, respect me, and rely on me at my job, and they pay me in a way that is commensurate with that. Maybe that's not a path that is available to a lot of people these days, but it's not a terrible path if you are lucky enough. To be clear, you do need to be lucky. I came out of school with a Mechanical Engineering degree during a recession in which the auto industry and the aerospace industry were doing a lot more laying-off than hiring. I got rejected by 50 different companies before I got my job. I would have happily taken a job an any of those 50 companies, but many of them have gone out of business since then, or had to do many layoffs during the 2008 recession . So, I was very lucky to wind up where I did. I any case, I'm glad I don't have go through this cutthroat world, but I worry about my kids, who are about to enter college as CS majors ( which is why I find myself watching this channel ).

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

But but but you "haven't made the most of it" or "fulfilled your potential" by staying in the same job for 29 years. The market has never been hotter. You're supposed to change jobs every 15 minutes for a 75-150% raise each time, don't you know? How dare you be happy earning £40k in your late 30s, you're supposed to be a millionaire by now. Honestly had recruiters say such things to me and respond with abuse when I disagree. Like having a low salary in a job you actually enjoy is some kind of terrible thing and you're meant to be hustling.

[@futurexjam2]

@@halfbakedproductions7887 In capitalism someone gains someone looses. If he is happy by not to get someone's place he is happy. In capitalist race you will get someone's place. It is not a conscientious thing, it is a wild human thing. We are believed to be happy only getting lots of money, but it is not true, it is a big lie from unscrupulous people. Our society is based on unscrupulousness and greed. We are firing lots of people from their places, homes, etc.. however it can be seem to you right...

[@chloeshih]

i love how you included your community in this video!!!!! 💖❤️💖

[@1990Co]

It's crazy how much different of a world that blue collar/trades people work in. One place you got a guy working in below freezing weather chipping out a concrete mixer with an air hammer, another place you got some early 20's eating company supplied lunch in-doors, earning generational wealth.... damn

[@anthonyelriq]

What a fantastic video! Not only the content, but also the camera skills, editing, and delivery. Thanks for making this 👍

[@ESwift]

This video is spot on! Personally prefer a growing startup environment compared to FAANG, but....can't deny FAANG has that reputation that is highly looked up upon by many folks, having it in the resume definitely helps in open more doors of career opportunity.

[@hil449]

after having 2 internships at startups, the last one went ouf of business.. im running away from startups now lmao

[@Bukola1]

This video is so well done!

[@hellomayuko]

Thank you Bukola!!!!

[@bitwisetube]

Yeah Boss Flexing 👁️👃👁️

[@vupham5252]

my 2 fav tech girls!

[@fredng7170]

Collab plz

[@markushuttner610]

15:51 "There's a saying that you should work with people that are smarter than you" *shows very smart and sofisticated HTML*

[@MrAconfee]

"Meaning" is a great thing to call out (and partially validation in meaning). In my own experience, that external meaning can actually be meaningless. I was doing basically nothing at Microsoft, but the project sounded really cool! Hololens + NASA at Microsoft! But day to day that didn't amount to anything tangible. I wasn't growing, and where is Hololens now...? Now I work at a company nobody's heard of, but holy crap. The talent here is second to none, our pace is insane, and the impact is wide and immediate. It turns out that there are more than 5 companies on Earth, and smart and talented people are everywhere. BUT, Microsoft undeniably made getting interviews easier, second only to passing all the "5+ years xp" filters. Outside of those first 5 years, I think it's better to choose and create meaning anywhere instead of defer meaning to a big name.

[@hil449]

I get it but i dont think i would be able to stay in a environment as dynamic as a startup for more than 2-3 years, and that after i get alot of experience. I'd rather work somewhere i can take my time, be productive and still have the time to pursue other passions in life. And ofc have time to enjoy the money i make lmao

[@DasBeatz]

Actual reasons: money, challenging work, and opportunity to work at the forefront of innovation. What people actually do it for: money, clout.

[@littlebear4264]

I LOVE THE EDITING, SETTING OF THE VIDEO!! IT LOOKS REALLY CLEAN AND PRETTY!!

[@smuyaj]

Great job putting everything I’ve felt while working at a FAANG company into words. Would love to see a video on why not FAANG though

[@XiaoYang1989]

THANK YOU for making this video and especially for pointing out the need for visa sponsorship. Just based on my own experience, it's frustrating to deal with the constant visa paperwork itself while there is very little awareness of how hard this is. 🙄😔

[@KellyLira]

mayuko, this video was soooooo good. loved all the effort, research, and points of view in this one!

[@DaveJacobseniOS]

Such a high quality vid without bogus FAANG hype! I appreciate your take. I never thought I would want to work at a faang company until lately I’m just starting to be open to it. Thanks again :)

[@tonylam8948]

I just have to say that the camera lens quality and lighting 👌💯

[@stanleyds]

I've been enjoying all the content you've been crankin' out the past year or so - the longform,video-essay-type stuff like this one, the shorter vids about mental health and well-being, the vlogs, the career stuff, all of it really. This channel's growth is 😗🤏! Great job, Muko! 🌟

[@Baconator1368]

Would you consider making a video about the "hot" tech companies that are sometimes even more sought after than FAANG right now? Companies like Stripe, Snowflake, Uber, Airbnb, etc. I feel like a lot of people are not even aware that companies like those pay even more than FAANG.

[@filmfelineadmin]

I never heard of snowflake lol is that a whites only company? Lol

[@thedduck]

It's kinda funny that *Microsoft* isn't included in these supposedly "desired" *BIG TECH* employer. 🙃

[@bharris4517]

Or IBM

[@cyronixed]

I also don't understand they dont put microsoft in there, maybe its "too old", also nvidia is missing with the recent stock exchange rise, maybe even tesla lol

[@pallaviholla7429]

That's because FAANG is a finance word. In 2010s FAANG company stock market were sky rocketing and Microsoft was kind of stable until Satya Nadella took over. So it was never included in FAANG

[@cyronixed]

@@pallaviholla7429 Makes sense, but I guess FAANG was then a good term in 201x, but is not anymore the right term in 202x

[@theholt2ic219]

Yeah I found it strange Microsoft, Nvidia, AMD, Intel, and Samsung were missing. Huge companies. I think its because its the prestige of these companies.

[@pvic6959]

I got a FAANG job straight out of college... by accident. To me, it wasnt about it being one of those companies. The recruiter had reached out to me so I thought, what the heck, ill do the interview. Personally, its been great! i havent had stress, my team is great, there is ZERO competitiveness. Everyone wants everyone else to succeed. At least my company does. As a hint, the name was not rebranded recently, we're not JUST a streaming site (but you CAN watch videos on a sub-company..)

[@yengub]

What platform did the recruiter use to reach out to you? LinkedIn?

[@pvic6959]

@@yengub i got an email. thought it was spam at first lmao. BUT I think she got my email from linkedin. however, i dont use linked in and i had just updated it since i was going to graduating college that year (2019)

[@blackgira7056]

Good looking out 💁🏿‍♀️

[@albishor]

Finally, a video that held me in front of the screen for 17 minutes, appreciate it!

[@PerpetualEducation]

Little known fact: there are more than 5 companies to work for / that will pay you the same - or more! You can really, pick the job you want. Do you like video games? Work for a video game company. Do you like fishing? Work for a fishing gear company. Did you like X? Work for an X company. You could even choose to work at a company that isn't bad for humans.

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

Yup. Friend of mine recently got hired by a household name games studio - as a Linux and Cloud engineer. These servers power the backend and some of the multiplayer. He only sees backend development and new releases of updated server software to be installed. He has no access to the main codebases, he knows practically nothing about the studio's unannounced games (but an NDA is a standard part of their staff contracts so he's covered by one) and generally doesn't get to see the games themselves being designed and built. He is basically a sysadmin. But he's happy as a clam using those skills to work in the gaming industry and support gamers. In reality he could use those skills anywhere that's asking for them, be that a bank or a supermarket chain, even his local police are looking for civilians to manage IT and suchlike.

[@badboy-ez7le]

If you want to learn or grow, join a smaller company/department or startup. When the company gets too big, you might end up 1) working in some obscure/over-specialized domain. 2) re-inventing the wheel to maintain status quo or KPIs. 3) mired in office politics.

[@shaquilleoatmealz]

omg the throwback final statement ✨It Depends✨ I SEE U MAYUKO

[@hellomayuko]

YOU KNOW IT ANDREI

[@aarya7771]

Been here since 10k❤️ Watching Mayuko grow is awesome, Keep it up gurl❤️❤️❤️

[@juliustaniguchi]

Very well put together! I agree with others that the production quality is way up on this one! Keep up the great work. It's hard not to think to go into tech for the pay (esp. due to student loans), but there are lots of other industries and companies that don't pay much for how much work goes into things. Those big names are well marketed while startups sound risky to join. I don't know much about the Tech industry and all of the companies in between. Lots of times, it seems like you gotta be in Silicon Valley or New York. Good to see you sharing with the rest of us, excited for your next best thing!

[@zosoo7]

Forgetting about financial compensation, I think the most valuable part about working at a top tier company is getting exposure to working on systems, codebases, and teams at scale. There is more of an emphasis on safety and correctness over velocity. Velocity is what you typically find at a startup. Additionally, the proprietary tools and infra at the FAANG companies are eye opening when compared to what's possible for an open source community to support. This includes foundational tools like build systems, monitoring tools, and service oriented messaging systems.

[@cc.forbes]

Thanks, Mayuko, for the fun and amazing convo, and video! I loved hearing everyone else's perspectives. Congrats on 500k!! 🎉 And that production quality tho 🔥

[@4ppych]

Just discovered your channel through this video, and I really enjoyed it! I'm a senior designer who has worked at a super cool but obscure company for a long time and is interviewing for a couple of much more "prestige" jobs, one at one of the FAANG companies and one at another equally well-known and admired company. This video helped put into words my feelings why I want to at least try out working at those places.

[@sambochen2010]

Awesome video Mayuko. Loving the new look of your backdrop and production value. Keep it up! ❤️

[@NegosyoManila]

Browsing your video is like reading a good book! I have benefited a lot! Thank you for making us smile!🥰 Your channel is awesome, so are you!! I'll never get used to saying it is worthy of a million likes! Fully watched! 💯🥰

[@danieljacales326]

As a Foreigner (Not USA citizen) FAANG worker I can say on of the main reasons I joined was the chances to migrate to first World country. Since the pay Is not really high outside USA for FAANG

[@benjamighty]

A massive improvement in the youtube video quality. This is an awesome one Mayuko!

[@joshuavallecillos6585]

Congratulations Soda! What a greatly informative video. Kudos to your video editor ! This is next level

[@hellomayuko]

Thanks Soda!!!!

[@dominicread5261]

Christopher is so well spoken and I'm following the same path for EXACTLY the same reasons more or less. I'm starting up as a Soft Dev at 32 still young, but wish I had started this path in my early 20s or teens..oh well!

[@freddyalways1991]

I’m nowhere near the world of software. I’m just here for the entertainment. But it’s nice to have somewhat of a view inside the world of software engineering

[@KateSwan]

I'm not even 2 minutes in and the quality of this video is so good, I had to comment.

[@SuperCool898Gaming]

I’m still watching the video, but I propose that we call the new acronym “MANGA”

[@jendyren]

I loved this video Mayuko! CONGRATULATIONS ON 500K~~~

[@whatisiswhatable]

The thing about being a software developer is you can more or less work in any industry. Like there’s no reason to force your self to work for any of these companies you don’t align with and who will do nothing but make people scroll scroll scroll. My dream is to work at the Allen institute of brain science personally.

[@moisesvillagran8956]

Mayuko, love your videos. Keep them coming. Especially the ones that include interviews. 😎

[@fcsolis]

I really liked this episode. Mayuko is getting awesomer and awesomer. Thanks.

[@avneeshkhanna]

Wow. I'm amazed by the effort you've put in for this video's research. Well done!

[@mallew32]

😭😭 The quality of this video and the quality of the content is amazing! There's so much work that goes into researching and writing these videos out. Thanks so much for the production! How do you find people like the interviewees, the research advisors and even mentors for your videos and for guidance?!? Thanks again for the content, very glad to be following your channel!

[@sasukesuite1]

As an aerospace engineer I will only make up to about $200k - $250k salary maximum throughout my entire career. The starting salary for a software dev at Google is $185k. A dev with 3 years of experience can make $300k. Why waste my life doing programming as an engineer to make less than a junior level developer?

[@jj1bdx]

My personal view: Apple has far surpassed Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) as a computer hardware seller. The company has a wide range of vertically-integrated products (around iOS/iPadOS/macOS/tvOS) and builds computers from the CPU/GPU/others for all kinds of appliances. The company was once severely financially damaged (before Steve Jobs returned) but recovered and has been surviving for 45 years (longer than DEC already). I guess many of the things Apple has realized are what DEC was trying to pursue when their VAX computers once conquered the world in the 1980s. DEC was unable to do that because of the management's narrow-minded visions in selling computers and put too many beliefs in VAX's architectural advantage, which was superseded by MIPS and other RISC computers. Could Apple fail like another DEC? That might be possible, but their products are actually selling pretty well. I started my career when IBM, DEC, and Sun Microsystems were the leading players in the computer industry in 1990. I'm curious what these FAANG or AAMAM (Alphabet/Microsoft) people will tell 20 or 30 years later in 2052 or 2062. :)

[@jj1bdx]

And I'm proud of myself being an ex-DEC engineer.

[@jj1bdx]

@@crowhomestead7552Well, with software with their propritary hardware chips not sold outside DEC. Alpha went to Intel. I agree being unable to exploit/explore PC market was the big management failure. I've left DEC in 1992, but I also agree that Palmer killed the company. In the beginning of the company, however, DEC sold their own boards (before LSIs) and their chips (inside their own assembled computers).

[@mahmoudamer1457]

finding the new sequence of video editing very smart and attractive , plus the good guidance involved in the video

[@danascript]

Really enjoyed this one! Content and production - well done! 👏👏👏

[@cherryblossomtree44]

This video is so well made. I really valued the time and effort you made to create such a great video!

[@EasternDreamer615]

I’m interviewing at FAANG next week. I hope it helps me to get out of poverty.

[@bharris4517]

GOOD LUCK!!!!

[@tiix4449]

Any updates?

[@EasternDreamer615]

@@tiix4449 thanks for asking! I’m not at FAANG but I got close enough for my liking ;)

[@tiix4449]

What did u study for bachelor and where ? And did u find a job after graduating or was it hard to find ? Im thinking of going into cs next year but idk

[@EasternDreamer615]

@@tiix4449 CS at oregon state but I dropped out to work. My original degree is in liberal arts. I work in tech sales, not programming. I found programming to be a bit more challenging at the highest level than what I can handle.

[@syafiqashraff5770]

Mayuko just demonstrates her ability as a data analyst

[@4rk]

Interesting that you'd say that after some time people later in their life look to find meaning and purpose in their work. I find the opposite to be generally the case, over a life time, more meaning and purpose is found from multiple aspects of the life you've built than simply one's career choices.

[@yillalbertoterrero]

From my viewpoint, everything we want to do in order to be one step closer to our goals in this world is valid... as long as it's something that doesn't harm anyone, of course. I can understand working for a FAANG company is a huge thing and all that, questioning that would probably be ridiculous; but the fact most people don't seem as interested in using those experiences to learn and nurture themselves while they're *inside* (sometimes for obvious reasons) as they are in using those experiences as tools to open up new doors for whatever they may want to do moving forward *outside* of all that is a little sad from a human standpoint, in my opinion; this moment is literally all we have for sure. I think every industry has its own "FAANG" phenomenon so this behavior is probably something we are gonna keep on seeing.

[@whatisiswhatable]

Define “harm”

[@alannahardy3825]

This was probably my favorite video of yours! Commenting for the algorithm~~

[@gammakingTO]

Fun fact: the guy who made the acronym FAANG renamed it to MAMAA (Meta Amazon Microsoft Apple Alphabet(Google)) dropped Netflix from it.

[@marcelsantee1809]

The guy is someone not in tech, it's a stock market acronym

[@rachelliu804]

Feel your video quality did have a level up. Keep up the good work, dear Mayu❤

[@noelcovarrubias7490]

It's crazy to me that no one talks about Microsoft and it gets ignored like crazy XD.

[@jaitehkaba8753]

Because they’ve been rejected by MS lol.

[@noelcovarrubias7490]

@@jaitehkaba8753 I’m so lucky because I just landed a job there and it’s my first job as a Software Engineer. Honestly Microsoft was my first choice 🤠😌

[@_ashmason007]

@@noelcovarrubias7490 is the work culture there okay or stressful?

[@noelcovarrubias7490]

@@_ashmason007 I haven't started yet, start the 22nd of this month. I'll reply to that question in a couple weeks once I learn more about it :D

[@rodneyfletcher918]

@@noelcovarrubias7490 let us know how that goes. Looking to apply soon

[@themoalani]

Great content! Your quality of videos is unmatched. Great Job!

[@incredible.india01]

You know now facebook is now Meta so FAANG becomes MAANG which adds perfect meaning to it because MAANG means DEMAND in HINDI.

[@samuelglover7685]

But it's still a cancer....

[@rehlee]

The Japanese school bell was the cherry on top of an already awesome video!

[@jeffchen67]

Hi Mayuko, wondering what's your opinion on the "pip" culture of the tech companies nowadays? Like, hire to fire, is that happening for real?

[@marcelsantee1809]

Amazon is the biggest offender, but Facebook also does this to some extend. My source is teamblind tho

[@alexzandermanning6094]

@@marcelsantee1809 fellow Blind brother .

[@user-nb2qz4ke9s]

The new acronym should be MANGA

[@iamsweetbetty8808]

Whatever camera that you're using is amazing, awesome video quality!!!

[@datalyfe5386]

I've never worked at a FAANG yet and I have loved my career. However it is definitely a goal down the road!

[@MminaMaclang]

This is one of the rare times when the sponsor of the video is absolutely perfect for the topic.

[@carlosruns4582]

Such a good video as to how prestige is seen within the Software Engineering Community. As an XR Developer I find it to be more different than standard SE jobs, the people are more scrappy and come from creative fields that switched to virtual reality and augmented reality development. I wonder if you have looked into this space?

[@8Trails50]

I think thats an interesting point. My take on it is simple; in XR and other more niche skillsets like for example Scala or Elixir engineer its a supply and demand problem. So ex-FAANG tag is very meaningless if you have very little experience or interest. Even at fb, specialized roles like that for AI/ML and AR/VR are pre-allocated. Meaning that you are vetted and not a general hire

[@user-fl7sb5rt8y]

For me it would definitely be for the financial stability no matter which one of the FAANG , MANGA or whatever acronym, the salary could literally change not only my life but those of my family too , coming from someone for a 3rd world country, so the step would probably secured 3 or 5 years there and either found or join a startup later.

[@ZenityStudios]

I find it hard to comprehend, or maybe just confusing, how one can talk about how these companies violate human rights around the world, even as evil as enabling or participating in genocide, then the video just completely like ignores/downplays that by talking candidly about other reasons why ppl want to work at faang. Yes those are true reasons, but they are completely overshadowed by genocide. Many times these employees say they want to work for a company that aligns with their values, that they believe in... again its quite impossible to just ignore genocide, yet these ppl completely disregard it. It's hard to take their character genuinely with such strong cognitive dissonance. I don't mean to be hating, i struggle with the dissonance myself, but im just stating my honest thoughts. There's a huge culture of just ignoring these scandals. I think its more of a selfish thing, these ppl operate in prestige economy, want whats best for them, and the human rights violations or other scandals, they don't care for so they ignore them. But then they go on to virtue signal about increased equity or diversity, its hard to understand that when they work at a company thats committing atrocities overseas. Idk how to really talk about these ideas, as ppl will completely attack you for bringing it up, or for not ignoring it. I guess i welcome other opinions in the replies

[@infini.tesimo]

This also works if you are a contractor for one of them. I find that many people just say they worked there and it's enough to get a ton of recruiters to pause on your resume and at least get you to the first round of an interview...even if you aren't a coder.

[@db8954]

FAANG is now MAAMA, replace Netflix with Microsoft.

[@AK_Studioz]

💯

[@atnuxd]

great video!! also, i love how you used the japanese train station/announcements noise for your Part 1 etc scenes LOL

[@Ragnarok540]

I would be ashamed of working in Facebook, regardless of the pay.

[@AB-et6nj]

Wish there were more people like that to stop enabling the terrible things these companies do. But I guess the social justice brand these companies associate themselves with is enough for them to get away with murder and have people froth at the mouth just to work for them

[@martinlarsson8220]

Same for Google right?

[@Ragnarok540]

@@martinlarsson8220 I would not like to work for google either, but at least they actually provide a service.

[@KhanStopMe]

Your videos always look SO GOOD

[@hellomayuko]

dude tysm! 🙏

[@李全棣]

Great introduction and Analysis, but I just wonder why Microsoft didn't be taken into account.😅

[@toebel]

CNBC host Jim Cramer invented the FAANG acronym to describe companies which were good stock investments. Jim Cramer has changed the acronym once in the past - it used to be FANG (Facebook, Apple, Netflix, Google). In recent years he has considered changing it once again to include Microsoft. Even though FAANG was an acronym made to describe tech companies in which to buy stocks, (I believe that) it caught on with software engineers because all the companies in the acronym were big, prestigious, and had good work benefits, and thus it was a catchy way to describe such companies. I think many software engineers aren't exact about how they treat the acronym. I go to a college with a lot of computer science majors and we just use "FAANG" to describe any large prestigious tech company with good benefits, which would include those like microsoft

[@jorgeluisgutierrez2977]

Wow! thanks a lot, you have talent to share information, thank you so much it helped me a lot and it wasn't boring for me to see the whole video.

[@RugerEnthusiast]

Weird that microsoft isnt there

[@shairuno]

Spot on! I have just landed on FAANG and it felts so good.

[@tiix4449]

What did u do for undergrad and how did u apply for a job there ?

[@ecor150]

This didn't age well

[@SaileeIvic]

I love this video! It is very well-researched and well-edited ❤️

[@marekkosek4535]

Title is incorrect - NOT everyone wants to work for big tech monopoly

[@iamshikirah]

I recently got hired for a Faang company. I wanted the same Financial stability and ability to do so much that sit in call center

[@lessthanthreemetal]

Welp......

[@mayavi93]

I dont know how to say without sounding like a simp, but the short hair looks good on you Mayuko.