Why F1 22 is the worst F1 game in recent years

[@Goji88]

It is sad to see the F1 game franchise in this state. I just don’t see EA and Codemasters changing this. They just look at the purchases and not the player count. Really the ones who keep playing the game know what the game needs but it won’t really affect sales so they don’t listen. It the first time in the 6 years I’ve been playing the F1 games I just don’t really want to play the game. I do hope they will one day listen to the players and make a F1 game which people truly enjoy. 😔

[@michaelvalesano3541]

So true…and it’s sadly the whole gaming industry on large AAA games…they just care about how much money they make on launch day and nothing else

[@Arejen03]

F1 2020 was my last I bought ,I moved to ACC and don't even want come back to f1 games they feel arcadish

[@wife9571]

i’m sorry to say i likely contributed to this. i only got into motorsport last year (yes, i’m american - no, i didn’t watch DTS), so F1 22 was my first F1 game. i absolutely love it, but of course i have nothing to compare it to, and after listening to the community i can definitely understand it. it really, really, really sucks that they got bailed out by F1’s rise in popularity, particularly here in the states. it means that their obviously basement level standards will appear “normal” to new players like me, while they completely betray their long time fans. i’m sorry to have lined their pockets and encouraged this behavior, i will certainly not buy next year’s edition unless veteran players are pleased with the improvements.

[@senseikawasaki2326]

I think its also the fact its Always the same game, its pretty normal after 6 yrs to start getting bored, its happening also in other games like fifa or nba 2k where every year its Always the same

[@senseikawasaki2326]

For example i played gt sport for like 3-4 before getting bored, then bought gt7 and even if its clearly an improvement i got bored in like 3 months and went back to f1 22, why? Because the game basics are the same and if i think the sport mode is good it became boring

[@furkanalbayrak5129]

Ive gone back to f1 2020 its much more enjoyable and ive realized how much they did not touch the game for 2 years

[@EVE_Jivodar]

Yea true, 2020 and 2021 are so much better

[@brisjoh9944]

F1 2020 et 2017 are crazy, 2022 sucks

[@aspectic6227]

What's different tho? other than classic cars?

[@whitegoodman7465]

@@aspectic6227 handling. Less bugs even tho its been unsupported for 1.5 yrs now..much much more. 21 and 22 are garbage. F1 is done with EA owning them.

[@timbeck5112]

@@whitegoodman7465 Same here - f1 2020 is a far superior user experience...

[@flee4urlives]

saw this coming as soon as EA got their hands on it.

[@ReinOtten]

I really like the new formation lap and the pitstops but the ai is (or was I don’t play anymore) so powerful on the traction because you lose like 3 positions with one pitstop. Also I hate the new handeling model, I finally could do lap after lap after lap online racing in f1 2021 and now I have to learn to not spin in a corner

[@Fef_Jones_Drew]

It's just too random when you spin. I personally love the game because I found the league that I race in during this game. Hopefully 2023 will be better because the newer cars will just be more recycled and they'll be able to focus on more pressing matters

[@kapa2909]

Find a league where drive, leagues are only thing why i even play this game sometimes when practising or racing

[@Ramazan_Durak]

that formation lap you like is bugged actually :))) still not resolved after 7 months.

[@e30connoisseur]

Literally man when I’m coming out the pits right behind someone they gain like a second on me because of the tractor the ai has…

[@briarios666]

@@e30connoisseur that's called you having cold tyres and the car at the back has nice warm tyres lol of course they will gain on you 🤦 the same happens when the ai leave the pits and you have warmer tyres you gain on them easy

[@lergnan2481]

My first game was F121, which I played on controller to learn how to drive and learn the tracks, then for F122 i preordered it and spent money on a racing wheel. I just downloaded F120 yesterday and played a few races and the difference in the handling model and traction is staggering. I didn’t realize that in ‘22 I was constantly trying to not spin out, which is near impossible to detect because the feedback is shite. In ‘20, I can fly around and the track and actually fight other drivers, rather than 100% damage control.

[@atlantic_love]

LOL, you'd be the first person I've run across that purposely played on controller to learn how to drive and learn the tracks. Do you know how that sounds from the outside-looking-in? :D Anyway, great to hear that you got a wheel.

[@stevesquad7110]

Got ghe eame issue wity the game. F1 2020 was awesome, so many fights and I could push. 2021 was ok, yet it would spin yhe car around in high speed corners. F1 22 is trying to not spin in every corner

[@forcefed6444]

I noticed the same thing with F1 22. I ended up re-installing F1 2020 for the same reason!

[@cressx4578]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks some spins are completely random. More often than not I feel like the spin that happened wasn't even my fault. It just 'happened'. The Codemasters F1 games are the only ones that give me this feeling and I f-ing hate it.

[@davidellis5135]

I find the spins really annoying Australia was the only high speed flat out race I had where the back end didn't go .

[@adamalmqvist1789]

There is one place in Spain that has this, the long right hander t3 I guess. One place in the middle of the tarmac has this ice-spot.

[@ollydavis2495]

The random spins alone stopped me playing the F1 games. Completely infuriating to play. Either you play medium traction which feels awful and takes your control away from the throttle or you play traction off and coddies decide to make you roll a dice at any cambered corner to whether you will spin for no reason or not

[@zachbishop5421]

Ive literally sat there and used flashbacks in the same corner over and over and you most definitely spin at complete random😂 I'd try to do as close to the exact same thing everytime and 17-18 of 20 times are great and the others I just snap around lol like the last sequence of turns in Australia are a nightmare😂

[@williamlang8767]

I am not buying another EA F1 game until I hear major GOOD changes to the game AFTER release

[@Shoegazer75]

I mentioned this on another video but it fits here as well. Going back to the 2020 game and then coming back to this one put one phrase in my head: ice skates and inconsistency.

[@x1_n_only_jtm_]

Exactly! 20 is way better

[@jonasgulbrandsen]

-bring back classic cars -add more tracks (hockenheim, sepang, istanbul) -update current tracks -better physics in general -better optimization for lower end devices

[@TheSt1092]

You can't make it more realistic unless you take it off consoles.

[@niels1755]

@@TheSt1092 Can't agree on that mate. AC did it perfectly, even on PS4...

[@TheSt1092]

@@niels1755 No they didn't.

[@shahzebnasir4692]

Gran Tourismo is far more realistic than anything F1 and it even has laser scanned tracks

[@tooeasy1100]

ACC is on console and has realistic physics. The physics between PS5/XS versions and the pc version are identical. Your point is invalid. This has nothing to do with the game being on console.

[@fussel8900]

I stopped playing F1 22 now for a month. I just cant feel any bit of grip and thats frustrating. I hoped with a wheel that would get better but it feels even worse. I switched now to ACC and its amazing. The force feedback is REALLY good and i can finally feel the car im driving.

[@molaf9025]

Totally agree. I feel this lack of grip too compared to others. It is like driving in snow. It is so frustating!

[@atlantic_love]

@@molaf9025 Guys, I haven't been playing AC, but AMS2 feels pretty darn good. Too bad the online structure is so bad.

[@AfterTom]

New features like immersive pit stops and formation laps are really cool and were definitely something we wanted. On the other hand we have all the other shit that ruined everything and put the actual good things aside.

[@MpWrproductions]

"immersive pitstops" is a hilarious overstatement at best and literally false advertising at worst. A single button to turn in? Cmon man it took them a single hour to write that code into the game

[@guyrivington2247]

@@MpWrproductions Yeah 'immersive pitstops' is laughable. Seriously who gives a fuck about a pointless feature that means and does nothing. One button to do it right literally pathetic.

[@AfterTom]

@@MpWrproductions yeah but that's how they call it

[@MpWrproductions]

@Tomaso Crobeddu true, I just wish they would have done better. I think personally that was the feature that made me skip this year's game (if not F1 life) lol

[@atlantic_love]

@@AfterTom You're saying that the pit stops are "really cool", but blame devs for calling it "immersive pit stops".

[@MustafaAuto]

I did a 50 lap race in Bahrain in assetto corsa using the formula hybrid 22s, the grip was so consistent, never had any random spins, you can slowly feel the tires degrading but nothing major or unpredictable like the f1 game, the question is ,how a small team of people with a much much smaller budget managed to build a much better and realistic car than codmasters?

[@jiwoo2820]

Because one is a team of passionate people who probably genuinely enjoy motorsports and the other is a greedy corporation with passion for money and nothing else.

[@brodders6664]

Been a day 1 buyer since F1 16. Playing co op career with my mate last game was class, I can't even play f1 22 because of frame rate drops. Been waiting for a patch to fix for months.

[@astrani]

won't come, buy next game (ecks dee)

[@justinwalker5237]

And also you can't restart the race as they removed that feature

[@danipero948]

@@justinwalker5237 in reality it wasn’t even in 2021, you had to leave and restart even there

[@oldboydog]

Best pressure is to stop paying for it. Ironically, this was the first time I've ever paid full price on release(I'm tight on funds too). Oh well. Next year I'll be waiting until bugs are fixed and price drop, if I buy it at all. Lots of other games to play. As a player who isn't very good, but stubbornly only plays with no assists, I'd like to see a better overall driving feel, particularly a better sense of the grip limits, which you've addressed many times

[@oldboydog]

I should add, the AI driving into me when I clearly have at least half of my car on the inside of a corner is ridiculous. I don't play a tonne, but when I do, I run practice GPs to find where the AI is best to overtake, and it's usually on the outside for me to avoid the AI smashing my wing. If it's a human player, they wouldn't close that door knowing it's automatic damage.

[@B-A-L]

You should have got EA Play for £20 for an annual pass instead which has this included and all the other F1 games going back to 2018.

[@pizzadriver]

Just buy 2020 or even 2021 if u have a friend for coop in case ü don't have either of them. Very cheap on sales and there are great mods.

[@philippczeskleba3988]

the Circle of EA Trailer=HYYYPE > buying the game > ''bah, worst game ever" > some weired patches > somehow playing it again???? > never play it again > new trailer = HHYYYYPPEEEEEE

[@wannabepro6495]

It really blows my mind that there were people sitting around a table and saying that F1 life will be the next best thing to come to a F1 game. I have had the game since its launch and I have literally spent a max total of 5mins in F1 life. Its a RACING game! Give me amazing racing! The saddest part of all this is there has been a significant boost in viewership and interest in F1 since the start of Drive to Survive. There is no better time than now to make a great F1 game and yet I look (just like limitless) to every other racing game to give me the F1 driving experience. The F1 franchise needs a complete new graphic engine. I would go as far as to say that F1 manager's graphics looks better than f1 2022, and it's a manager game for crying out loud. I am unbelievably frustrated with this game and I have put myself out of my misery and uninstalled it. RIP F1 2022

[@jiwoo2820]

Man, F1 life could've been a great addition to the game if implemented right. I thought it would be something kind of fun to fill in the space between each race because rn the career mode feels extremely bland. But they added F1 life to the menu of the game which is extremely boring and dumb. Also imagine the game having 100 problems and crying about graphics 🤣🤣🤣

[@Frankus14]

For me the A.I were awful to race against as I mainly played two player career with a friend. The A.I would drive into you constantly, spin you out and even times keep driving into you even when they've spun you sideways onto their front wing. Also they have this unrealistic acceleration boost out of corner exits onto straights regardless if their exit was good or poor as one example i watched an A.I infront of me get a massive snap of oversteer on a corner exit, only to then immediately have this massive acceleration boost and gain 3 tenths immediately even after the oversteer incident. Thats my biggest gripe as I'm mainly a career player as this was my first f1 game I played properly

[@mrhxrse]

Mr Horse approves this video

[@anabolicbalkan6927]

why are you everywheree

[@mpa1931]

Yeah the AI seems extremely OP. I used to be able to do 103-105 in 20 and 21 depending on the track but for 22 I found myself having to bump it down to as low as 85 in some tracks. Its unfair how much traction they get especially in low speed corners. Not to mention the constant dive bombing.

[@thindon6661]

Even the lapped cars divebomb i've noticed

[@stopbeingafanboy.]

2020 best f1 game..

[@apophisRO]

second best. Best F1 game of all time, overrall, is F1 2013.

[@ComputersAreRealCool]

My dream (which will never happen) would be iRacing partnered with F1 and we got all of the tracks from the calendar, as well as adding some of the F1 rules (3 qualifying sessions, safety cars, formation lap). The handling of iRacing is a million times better, VR actually works, it's just missing those last few bits to be able to run a full AI season for maximum immersion (as well as not having liveries for other teams)

[@atlantic_love]

If I'm reading your comment correctly, VR has nothing to do with being able to run a full AI season for maximum immersion. Definitely, iRacing is where it's at for actual competition with other humans. As far as AI goes, iRacing has no more an advantage there than any of the other sim racers.

[@redbullsauberpetronas]

iracing handling still sucks, assetto corsa destroys it

[@jadynhasstupid2275]

@@redbullsauberpetronas you can’t attack the curbs in ac at all lmfao “better”

[@BOOMERSQUAD64]

18:50 that's me I can't believe I spun by not looking where I was going because if was waving at you with my drs flap

[@Alex58399]

RIP

[@cordaveast]

Ngl I also really liked the handling model when the game was first released but after each update I feel like things have gone downhill. Up until about Dec I didn't think the game was bad overall, vs 2021, but I have begun to realize that the only reason I felt that way was because I am overall more competitive YOY through natural progression. I am beyond annoyed by the constant inconsistencies in things like the way the cars react over curbs and low speed traction (especially at the starts). I took a 3 week break in Dec after feeling a bit burnt out, hoping to get some of that joy back, but nothing has changed. I'm around 130hrs in and am still lacking the confidence I believe I should have by now.

[@redbullsauberpetronas]

i kept feeling like i kept getting worse at the game, now i know whats going on

[@Fakumanygy]

@@redbullsauberpetronas fr i thought I was the only one with this i haven't played in September and then I got back to the game in October and i just got worse i couldn't drive i felt like it was the first time I was driving this game is frustrating to say the least

[@dpov74]

Just needs us not to buy the game that will hurt them more

[@scuderiadoggo378]

Here are my problems I see in F1 22: first of all, I feel like the difficulty in the game is all over the place as even putting them on 60-79 it feels like you're facing them +10 higher (so that means it feels like they bunk up the difficulty) so if playing on 110 or higher, it feels like it's 120-140 difficulty ai. It could been better if they fix it like how it was bit competitive to race against ai since 16-20. But it can be somewhat fun sometimes. And they can take you out even as they are far away to make the corner. Supercars: it's pretty much boring because they are only used in Hot Lap and the handling is very odd. It's nice to see the car model looks ok but it's unacceptable. Online: it is very very buggy. Cross play was making game very buggy and laggy. Handling: even trying to be as precise as possible around corners, you still have your car spun out pretty much easier. Not much bad as 21 but it needs to be addressed especially the custom setups sometimes have 50/50 luck. F2: strangely enough, the cars are way more better to handle than F1 cars. Yes they can snap here and then but they are fair to handle If they bring back classic F1 cars, it'll be much fun to drive than the supercars because the supercars are only used in Hot Lap and Time Trial and that's it.

[@hornetguy9063]

Wheel spin in like 5th gear. It’s insane. I might be terrible at getting the traction down, but I don’t have any confidence to accelerate and get mobbed at the start or out of low speed corners. No TC should be more powerful than medium TC. It’s ridiculous that I am so much faster with TC

[@noahrogers774]

If i wanted to decorate my living room I’d play bloody Sims 4

[@spiritchaser4337]

I tested the game on sale last week, $18 USD, not worth it, refunded! Still playing F1 2021 and 2020 until I get tired. I play with no assists and cockpit cam since 2010, sometimes I go online, always top 3. On my sixth career on 2021 always with a different team, and still having a blast. EA is learning a lesson, ignore your fans and you will be ignore back. Great vid Limitless, you ROCK!

[@meme._hoe._8392]

I agree with you on ffb, as mentioned in other videos and shown when you play other games, I hadn't played assetto corsa before F1 so i thought the ffb was at its best. After playing assetto corsa its on a whole new level, the car actually feels almost real and the biggest thing was the downforce. I think they should make the ffb realistic and get laser scanned tracks. As well the controls, the car in asetto corsa is easy to drive on both wheel and controller, way better, especially on controller, than f1 games imo.

[@anakinskywalker3026]

Se siente casi real😂, anda a manejar un auto real, es muy bueno asseto corsa, pero ningún “simulador” que al final no son mas que JUEGOS, va a trasmitirte la sensación de manejar un auto real, y menos un súper deportivo.

[@wife9571]

@@anakinskywalker3026 cool bro. who asked?

[@ignacionegri4433]

@@anakinskywalker3026 bueno maestro pero no todos tenemos el dinero para permitirnoslo, por algo jugamos SIMULADORES que SIMULEN lo mas fielmente posible las sensaciones

[@epicaza]

The handling model at release was really rewarding and encouraged practice. The fact they changed it so early felt like daylight robbery, all because a small minority of players complained about it. Really annoying, as the new handling model makes the cars feel like absolute boats. Barely touched the game since, because the cars are so unpredictable now and I’m barely able to finish a race without something unnatural happening with the handling. Now I mostly play f1 2020, back when these games had simple features like…vibrations in the controller… 😐

[@TurnerRacing]

Ego engine is aging has been game engine since F1 2015 & F1 games needs an new game engine

[@tun04]

Classic EA... F1 franchise died in '22.

[@RBicaify]

After years of league racing and getting banned from the forums multiple times for telling them how they are ruining this franchise by half arsing it and focusing on the wrong stuff, I've 100% given up on it. The only thing that would improve the sales and attractivity of the game is the game finally working. Penalty system has been trash for a decade, multiplayer in general in terms of disconnects, desyncs, rpm glitch while spectating.. And instead of improving the spectators UI and make it look super good, add replay functions, live stewarding for leagues, and stuff that would actually put the game to a new level. They add scripted seasons and menu background customization. Yearly release is what's hurting this game the most. New season should be a dlc for a game that they keep improving on for years. and just gets better Instead we get the same game, with a few different filters, some grip/handling values changed around, 1 or 2 new 'features', and probably a handful bugs of yore that they reintroduced for god knows what reason. This franchise is being ruined by bad business decisions only going for short term gain all the while ruining the long term potential that it really had. i'm quite convinced they could have 10x the playerbase if they would just have seen that earlier and realized it's a well functioning game that makes people hang around and not free choice of rugs. I'm so with you that i want these games to succeed. I want a good F1 game and i think F1 is really dropping the ball too by having the incompetence of codemasters reflect so bad on their brand. Or at least fail to see the potential that a good f1 game could have on it. It's so sad that a lot of fun gets destroyed by these exclusive deals that ensure no competition and has them just pooping out overpriced (80 euro if you got the 4300xp edition) less than mediocre games. It's about the pinnacle of motorsport and technological innovation. Meanwhile we can't even use our mouse in game or restart the session without all leaving the game. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

[@WikiZiki]

Been playing since 2017 and i agree. For this being the OFFICAL F1 game... unacceptable

[@noelkelly9582]

Unbelievable corruption involved in video game journalism (reviewers, mainly) and awards these days. I try to ignore them for the most part. That said, driving game of the year for F1 22 is absurd... Did *nothing* else get released this year?!

[@Brendan77able]

EA won't give a 💩

[@RyCoMurphy]

I really enjoyed 21, felt like a solid driver. Had not much trouble against 90 AI. I bought 22 and hate it. Cars are uncontrollable and beyond vague on a controller. I struggle to keep up with 80 AI.

[@stefanolotti5898]

Stefano Lotti likes this video

[@brocksamson5786]

Lool, its 17.99 on steam rn, that says something right there.

[@fiftyin07]

The thing I have the biggest problem with is the force feedback in this game, or lack of it. The car just feels so disconnected from the racetrack and there’s just an overall lack of feel, especially when trying to get back into the throttle. I played F1 2018 again the other day and right away that game felt a million times better. I could actually feel the grip limits and could actually control the car sliding because there was proper force feedback telling me what the car is doing…

[@magalha05843]

My list: + Improve traction realism (saw videos of F1 drivers saying that medium TC is currently the most similar to real life) + F1 classic cars + All tracks laser scanned + Braking point back - No more (pointless) F1 Life

[@temiomo-loto4122]

I have a controller do people realize not everyone has the money to spend on expensive racing controllers

[@davvestridh3096]

EA buys Codemasters, F1 game turns bad... hmmmm

[@ksells]

The game's been bad for years

[@magnussencube]

2014 and 2015 exist

[@TomGorian]

@@ksells 2020 and 2019 wasent bad

[@demonfire2989]

@@magnussencube and 2009

[@magnussencube]

@@TomGorian 2019 was fucking terrible on wheel

[@krizey0]

TRL limitless guide to content success: 1. Every week call out f1 for being terrible 2. Every 2 weeks show yourself shouting and swearing at someone who ruined a league/race 3. Every 3 weeks say a patch has made the game good again 4. Every 4 weeks hype up another sim game 5. Every 5 weeks talk about a controversy …. And I watch every single release 🤣

[@-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.-]

F1 22 is my first F1 game (besides F1 Challenge ‘99-‘02 on my old dads sim rig when I was 5-8 years old) and as of right now I’m playing one controller until I can get my hands on a CSL DD. I struggled with traction so much at the beginning that I had to turn traction control on which I never do in other racing games or in real life for that matter. It bothered me how unrealistic it was. After the 1.06 update I found it easier to get traction overall but struggled to play with tc off due to randomly losing traction in the strangest of places that made no sense. I still use medium tc 70% of the time in races even though it makes the car so understeer horribly so I can complete a race without randomly losing traction on a different part of the track each lap. Im hoping I can turn off everything once I finish building my sim rig but even if I am that doesn’t solve the plethora of other like late of updates, new non-F1 Life content, etc. As for AI I felt like they were super OP in the straights at the beginning but after some update they seemed to not be as OP. They still make some goofy racing moves but I don’t find them too difficult to race against. Now I am playing with the AI difficulty set fairly low at 76 but am constantly raising it a few clicks every couple of races because I start to do a little too well after a while. One thing I will say is there seems to be a difference in difficulty between the my team and driver career modes, the latter being more difficult. Seriously hoping they release a solid game next year as I’m on Xbox so racing games are limited, especially F1.

[@bigryeguy9851]

It's basically impossible to play the game on controller and medium TC drivers are quicker than no TC drivers in the league I'm in. Makes zero sense to me

[@rabico85]

Even full traction drivers are quicker lol. Last game tc off could not be challanged by someone running full traction no ways.

[@ORC_Diego]

I agree a 100%! Since More than 10 Years now I'm in and driving League Races. So a lot of experience. My biggest problem with this game is the physics. It is not possible anymore to understand what is happening on the throttle (sim). Since years Its the first time That I'm spinning again and again and again. Nobody on this earth can Tell me that its me. It is the game! Ridiculous power on the throttle. And I know that a lot of other drivers experience the same issues.

[@TheSt1092]

It's not mean't to be an accurate racing sim it's meant to be a console game accessible to everybody.

[@ORC_Diego]

@@TheSt1092 Then you agree with me 👍🏼. Making the throttle behaviour more difficult is not making it driveable for everybody. You didnt get my point

[@temiomo-loto4122]

@@ORC_Diego it hasn’t been difficult for me. I’ve slowly gone from assisted to manual on my controller and found it to be more fun. Trying to make any game realistic is impossible, but compered to other sports, racing games come the closest. We the regular consumers are not gonna all magically become f1 esports racers through this

[@ORC_Diego]

@@temiomo-loto4122 Your answer has nothing to do with my comment. Please stick to what I wrote or dont answer.

[@freelancetom]

Pros 1. The game is easy to play. You up on, you do some laps, you find a lobby... Depending on the time you have to play, there's something for you and in terms of accessibility this game really delivers. 2. Crossplay. Even tho we had to wait for it, the enabling of crossplay really improved league racing. 3. Good racing. The game provides good pvp racing, and the fondamental of F1 like strategy, although lacking some depth into tyre deg, plays a part into it. Which makes it enjoyable on longer races. 4. Far from beeing astonishing, the F1 game provides good graphic and general ambiance on the track. Lots of efforts are put into the details, even tho its not laser scanned tracks, and most of the tracks are enjoyable to race on. 5. F2 cars. The F2 driving model is much more consistant than the F1, and the cars are a lot of fun to drive. It provides very very good racing in PvP with players witht the same skill base. 6. The game has a career mode. Even tho it lacks polishing and upgrades from year to year, there is no other competitors delivering this level of option for a career mode. 7. Racenet data base. Thats really, really cool. Good way to learn and improve. Cons 1. Glitches at launch. 2. AI overpowered and inconsistency with car physics or skills between players and AI. Which creates a massive drawback from career mode. 3. Overpowered assists. TC makes it too easy for lower skills player to nail starts, driving under rain, and low grip corners. Its just ridiculous. Using assist should slow you down so you want to learn be better with the driving model and gain some speed and create a progression in the skills of the players. 4. Useless features. F1 life is a total loss of ressources. Supercars too. Its a F1 game. Bring me the V8 V10 era cars and iconic F1 cars like the Mp4/4. 5. Driving model. Just like you JD, I was really into the launch driving model, even tho it was less realistic, it was skill based and gave good challenge. It felt consitent on the FFB and I really enjoyed driving those cars. 6. Tyre model. This is going downhill... in the previous interations of the game, I actually felt like your driving was impacting tyre temps and tyre deg. As for now, it looks like its just equal for everyone, which is not rewarding a driver who is good preserving tyres like in real life racing. In F1 2020 and 2021, it had a huge impact on TC players as well, which was a good way to bring the skill base in a good place. Overall lots of the pros are given. Since they are selling points of the game for many years. That's the problem of franchises that have no competition in the market. EA is the actual master of giving us minor improvement over years on their franchises. In an ideal world, these franchise should work under DLC, Patches and paying updates model, rather than new interation of the same game code every year. So for example F1 23 could be a game which last 2-5 years before a brand new game comes out to replace it. Which gives more time for developpers to actually improve the gaming experience around F1. But for money making reasons... this is NEVER going to happen.

[@mintgoldheart6126]

The current driving model is not even realistic right now.

[@danielhudson23]

Personally for me i think its time for a change of ownership of developer, may be developers who make games like assetto corsa in my personal opinion the physics of the game is just right and that you can make changes of set up to make the difference in lap time

[@xximjjjxx412]

the problem with ai is you have to change the difficulty track to track

[@TGHM_]

EA pulling a classic ‘Madden’ move on this and will run it into the ground.

[@swadings]

It’s impossible to truly race the AI, they’re either super predictable or flat out dumb, they’ll sit with you side-by-side in quali and won’t simply pass you, the straight line speed they have is so freakishly fast on certain tracks and anytime they pass you in a race, they’ll most likely not get passed till the next corner, which typically leads to them locking up and going wide or just simply going wide, never in between. I guess all we can do is hope and pray we’re being heard and that 23’ is magically better, even though we all know that’s not gonna happen :/

[@F1Jackz]

The issue with ai on this game is the exits they got, but that was never an issue before f1 22

[@thindon6661]

I think the issue with the ai is their traction. They drive as though they have full traction control on. But they somehow also get none of the disadvantages of having full traction control on (Throttle Limitation, Etc)

[@jirisuster6165]

I'd like to provide some thoughts about why it takes so long them to fix minor or even major issues. I'm a corporate integration developer, what it actually means isn't all that important, however what's important is that our release calendar is being planned YEARS in advance. So for me it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that when EA releases a game, they are already aware of the major issues which will be fixed in the first or second patch. So when you play the game day one and see some weird color on redbull, the developers surely get at least some feedback about it, but they're too busy solving something more important. Maybe somebody has already fixed the bug day one, but it will still take some time before it can make it to the patch release, because developers have next to zero authority to plan this stuff. Ofc it's easy to say that's EA is a multibillion company but honestly the bigger the company the harder this gets.

[@x1_n_only_jtm_]

Yeah but there's no excuse with something as easy as color. It makes sense what you're saying but these companies have all the power and we're just at their mercy

[@timothysperisen2088]

I am 100% with Marcel Kiefer (Quote at 0:46 and around) on that. To quote Martin Brundle, F1 22 is "a day late and a Dollar short" and has made it easy for me to silently disengage

[@Subsario]

I Wish EA would make F1's career mode, a bit more like Fifa's Career mode. with calendars and custom character faces, decisions and shit F1's career mode is literally just "race, win, instantly go to another race, repeat"

[@amharking345]

It isn't a problem to get a feature we didn't want, if it was actually good we wouldn't complain but things such as F1 life is the worst ever it needs to be removed ASAP

[@vitallink4830]

Price put me off. Going from £45 for f1 20 to £60 for f1 22.

[@RonniePeterson]

Everything you mention is true. But trust me all of these let downs combined come nowhere close to the abysmal VR on offer!

[@Ezpzlmnsqez]

The VR is so bad. Feels like a half baked Vorpx mod. Hasn't improved at all either since launch.

[@farukterzioglu8863]

Hi JD, I saw that you are using moza r9. May I ask you how to enter the pits? which button? It was no 1 button in fanatec but there is no button for turning in at Moza Wheel. There are lots of player who cannot turn in pit stops.

[@MarcelDragZ]

a feature to fully control the car in the box would be very nice. bring red flags back maybe or young drivers test.

[@ebola1974]

I’ve had every F1 game from Code masters, but this year is the last one for me. I’m moving to ACC. When you get in a car in ACC, you can feel the grip of the car, no spins out of nowhere like in F1 22

[@WillWitchellRacing]

Hey JD great video! Watching it straight away after the session 😂

[@mick19977]

I’ve streamed league races for about three years now since F1 2019. Those games where so much fun and it was actually a beautiful time for Codemasters. We where planning to do a new season of league racing in our league and the first event we did on F1 22 was awful. The game kept crashing and glitching in every single try to stream. We waited to start a new season until late November/December. We all thought the game had improved with updates Codemasters brought. The first race of our new season was actually good, no glitches, no game crashing or things like that. From the second race onwards the game started crashing again and it was very disappointing. I cleaned my PlayStation4 to try and improve the running of the game on this console. Our season of league racing is underway but we had to stream with a PC instead of a PlayStation 4, only because the PS4 doesn’t handle this game anymore. Codemasters/EA need to realise that this game is not a game which will be played fully on Next-Gen consoles like PS5. It’s not a game to enjoy anymore and for F1 23 i have big doubts it will be good. I have absolutely no pleasure in this game anymore and i hope Codemasters change this for the rest which want to enjoy this game. Work to do for EA/Codemasters.

[@icntoantu7115]

people seem to dislike it but outside from race starts, the handlinng model is a big improvement for me combined with the better kerbs than last year. Starts are much worse tho

[@jonot8547]

EA should just make the game "F1" so basically you buy the base game ONCE and every year players can opt to buy the newest cars as an expansion and you could collect cars from the previous years. You can race with anyone if the game settings allow otherwise you could only race with the same season cars. That way the base game could be more polished.

[@PianoManCallum]

EA have got their money grabbing hands on it now. The franchise is over

[@GL_Tiago]

When a game is made by EA we just shouldnt buy it. Because everything is laggy/buggy and expensive

[@pkscarr]

the big issue i've had with the AI for many games now is just how inconsistent they feel from track to track on the same difficulty. I'll set a difficulty level where I want them slightly faster than me to have a challenge, then the next track i'll be seconds faster. the track after that, seconds slower. Sometimes they're hyper aggressive. other times, so cautious that you can all but ignore them. sometimes they just... do a wet race on dry tires doing dry qualifying lap times. or zero stop full length races on one set of softs. Or forget how yellow flags and safety car periods work. It breaks my immersion so hard during a career to have to constanly fiddle with difficulty or hope the game remembers how to work today

[@Kwj997]

Me personally, I enjoy driving the super cars and feel they drive quite well for it being an f1 game. I just find it a bit pointless that you can drive multiplayer with them? Would love to have a laugh with my mates in super cars after a long f1 race?

[@iiComment13]

The series is falling off, F1 23 is a make or break for this series. It needs to be 85%+ - Never have I not wanted to play an F1 game, and F1 2015 had literally nothing!

[@ooobraaah4648]

I stop buying the F1 games this year…..it just seems like a cash grab for EA….

[@stepheno21]

JD the moment EA got their hands on F1. I knew it is only going to go downhill. My last FiFA was 2019, Battlefield 4. Servers are bad on Codemasters! Wait to you get on EA servers! Give them the chance. You’ll probably have to pay to buy the game then pay to open a pack to unlock a team. Maybe we should all jump over to I racing.

[@Fujifilmily]

I can play time trial and do 50 laps not one spin. After 3 laps online the track feels like it turns into an ice rink no matter how slow you go or how tentative you are on the throttle, around you go.

[@sportstronics]

Game has been so inconsistent and buggy. Thanks EA.

[@ShadowRacing]

Just putting Preassure on isn't enough if we're still all going to buy the game anyway. Their aim is to just make money, so if we stop giving them our money unless the game is actually good, then they'll start making them good.

[@levy_martins]

Things that i would like to see on the next game: A TRULLY revised online experience: Work on making the online experience more stable. If you reduce (number of servers issue, sudden disconnection during race) specially online, it will be a huge improvement. An improved cross play experience: This is the feature I liked the most on the game. The fact that we are able to play against players from different platforms is pretty nice, however they need to play on getting this feature more stable. Remove super cars. Again, this is F1 not GT. If we want to play GT we will play dedicated games such as forza, ACC and others. Engine overheat: I would like to see more engine overheat online. Codemaster (E&A) make some tweaks during the game, but we need to see more overheat when we are following other cars too closely. More circuits: Add more circuits to the game. Even the reverse tracks such as bahrein, suzuka, Silverstone .

[@sebfettel]

It sucked, i never played a single game, it wouldn't load the first race after setting everything up in career mode, gave up after about 7 trys. Never drove a lap

[@markdomenie5453]

I still think F1 2021 was worse. The car always felt nervous in that one.

[@suhdud4646]

F1 2023 is a milestone year, it will mark the 10 year anniversary of me still playing F1 2013.

[@xxxxyyyxxxx584]

We need real sponsors and a livery creator for career mode. They could even incorporate a rule where you can't have 2x conflicting sponsors on the car.

[@Miguelitoo_22]

F1 life was a waste of resources & so was supercars (nothing we really wanted) They need to focus on the core features of the game much of what has been covered & making the game as smooth as possible (not perfect ofcourse) Also , actually bring out a safety car/VSC when ai cars stop on the track side 😂 F1 Career modes needs way more effort put in. F1 2012 & 2017 had a more realistic feel to the career, way more immersion. I feel like the immersion levels have taken so many steps back. F1 2021 had post session interviews...they're gone now 💀 literally less immersion with each game. Add more little cutscenes & camera angles etc Small details go along way , especially as there isn't millions of things you can do off track. Example : 1. What about a system based on choices & interviews etc that increase/decrease a reputation (I.e. team player or indepent driver) which will make certain teams more/less likely to offer you a seat. (F2 going to F1 & just in general) 2. Targets for races that affect a percentage for your seat being taken/kept at the end of your contract period. Basically just some features to freshen up the career & keep interesting. Also add more customisation to the career mode car (more livery spots , more madeup brands...also add a few different front wing , nose , side pod & rear wear styles so you can make the car look a little different from the fia model. I guess just put effort where it means more & listen to the community 😂

[@hunty5285]

ill stay to the end of every video forever as long as you never change that outro

[@fpsf1551]

This game is heading on a downward spiral and that's down to EA. Graphics are no better than 21 on ps4pro over 22 on ps5. Useless features, car handling model and Ai are so bad.

[@jakobhansen8428]

I think a major flaw in the game, more specificly with the AI is how insanely overpowered they are with traction. For players like me, who don't really have enough money to buy a set of wheel and pedals, it's almost impossible to drive without traction control. Therefore it's also impossible for me to drive against a better AI then i currently am (80-90). I can take a corner nearly perfectly and yet still lose 0,2-0,3 seconds to a car with similar performance.

[@RexyBing]

Without watching the video, the answer is... "EA Sports"

[@leont4944]

As someone who has unfortunately been playing the Fifa Career Mode since 1999, I can guarantee you that they won't change ANYTHING in the F1 series except the menus color scheme and adding more micro-transaction stuff. EA could easily be the best developer in the world but they're the epitome of a soulless corporation with a monopoly in some segments so they don't need to do anything. We will continue buying their games because we love the sport and there is no proper alternative out there.

[@bensmythibunciei5240]

I feel traction control is extremely overpowered in this game. Also, when safety car comes in that silly throttle glitch happens preventing you from generating heat in the rear tyres. Extremely frustrating.

[@griff_the_boxer]

Agree basically all your points...the game is shit. I disagree on the AI skill issue, though. Jarno couldn't keep up with 110% AI when he was using a shit box car to start career mode...if he was using Red Bull/Ferrari/Mercedes he wouldn't have had as hard of a time. And if 110% AI is too powerful, you can just drop it down to say, 105 or 100. Like is it an ego thing that it HAS to be left on the max setting? The AI should feel basically impossible at that setting in my opinion. The issue with the game is the issue with all yearly sports releases...they will do the bare minimum to make the game feel somewhat fresh (mostly marketing) and that's about it. 6 months of development time isn't enough time to create significant changes.

[@IMIark]

the connectivity ruined it for me, me and a couple friends were enjoying just going online and racing but it became so difficult to just get in a lobby together and race. endless loading screens, one of us not being able to join the lobby for no reason, after a race one of us not being able to get back to the lobby.

[@TheMomotarosu18]

EA branding the handling as more 'sim' like is absolute rubbish. Rather than changing the handling characteristics, they just lowered the grip to an unrealistic level and called it there. Spinning in 5th half way through the rev range on a high speed corner isn't 'sim' like, its just lazy.

[@francescopesaresi2573]

One simple thing: HORRIBLE GAME PHISYCS Playing since F1 2017 , being top 1% in tt and league racing. First time I really don't want to play the game

[@Thepope870]

the fact that you can't even buy F1 team merch for your avatar... in an F1 game in mindboggling

[@Arvid2022]

Just knew this would happen when EA announced the boy out. EA is nothing like what they used to be

[@Clads5]

you got any plans to livestream iracing?

[@JDisLimitless]

Yes I will start to shortly 😋

[@lukedieh1967]

JD I know you don’t play career mode, but as one of the subscribers to your channel that does, I feel I can speak on that side of it. With my team, how the hell do we not have pre season testing? That’s one of the most pivotal factors for a good season irl. The entire r&d system is broken. Some upgrades either don’t work and give you the lap time their supposed to, or they make the car feel worse to drive. And the biggest one to me, if we’re creating our own race team, why can’t we develop our own engines? How is there no setup system with the livery to change front/rear wing designs and or be able to change handling characteristics before the season, so you know what you’re getting into with the handling and get better setups.

[@mrjel4672]

The only thing here I can disagree with is that the ai are overpowered. If the ai are too good for you, then that is your problem. Sure 110 ai is wayyyy too difficult but 110 ai isnt the only option. If it is too fast play another ai level. I feel that people can not swallow their ego and put the ai level down and complain about how the ai are overpowered.

[@xxxxyyyxxxx584]

The AI dive-bombing into corners where nobody would ever overtake irl is where the aggressivness just turns into stupidity

[@Matt231985uk]

I’ve been playing F1 games since F1 97/F1 WGP. I played GC4, EA’s F12000-05 and I’ve played the hell out of all the Codemasters series including league racing since 2010. Personally the Codemasters series hasn’t been anything special since F1 2013. Each year the content becomes more and more barebones. Classic cars could be a staple each year. Why can’t we have DLC tracks for Turkey, Korea, the 2 German tracks, even fictional tracks made by the devs?? I would love the game to take a more sim route, but understand that it needs to sell to the casual F1 fan too, but we play this game for F1. Not Supercars. If anything, why can’t they add F3? Why can’t we have F2 at launch?? That could be a fun career mode progressing through the junior catagories. It would provide extra on track content, more cars, more racing features. Instead we got an IKEA simulator…. Even the podium pass is just recycled trash from the last 2 games… it’s insulting to then be charged £70 for it… the most expensive game yet. That’s on a price level with FIFA 23 which contains so much more in its career mode, F1 23 needs to go back to its roots. Give us that menu from 2010. The classic cars from 2013. A more immersive career mode. Proper online lobbies. More tracks and options for leagues to customise. F3!!! Next year will probably just be a copy and paste job though with some new puma hoodies for your avatar 🙄

[@Kevin_40]

Its really a great game. It has flaws but overall, extremely fun. The competition is fierce in league racing. I love the soundtrack. No traction control is not fun in my opinion.

[@kasel2011]

Naaaa cut the cap bro! This game is so bad and unrealistic as fuck

[@Kevin_40]

@@kasel2011 its fun with full and medium tc. not no tc unless you are a genius.

[@kasel2011]

@@Kevin_40 Not a genius tho but since F1 2019 I've been able to race without TC. It's your opinion but I disagree. I'd rather have new elements in the game than having a good soundtracks or supercars what so ever...

[@purpletigerracing7087]

I haven't played in a month or so. Been playing The Callisto Protool and Mech Warrior 5 on PS5. Dead Space comes in a few days(physical copy)). But I may play F122 this weekend. Turn offs were: 1. AI dive bombing at every corner. 2. Random spins 3. Terrible starts no matter how you attempt your start. I don't do the formation lap. Maybe that would help. 4. Random tire wear/temps especially coming out of the pits. Are these issues still there? I don't mind the F1 Life stuff. I kind of like the back ground music in the lobbies. But I'm not spending my pitcoin on couches or shirts. I occasionally grab a shirt or something if it goes with the channel branding IE Purple colored stuff or Puma/cat stuff. But that's it. Super Cars are only useful for extra cash in Career Mode. I'm a bit put off as I went out and got a nice mid level Thrustmaster Wheel setup. Which sits and collects dust when I don't have time and when I do have time thr game let's me down.

[@davidburke6575]

I play career mode. Several issues - 1.Your career progression doesnt follow year to year with each game release. 2. In some events quali times leap by over 1 sec in Q3 by AI when parc ferme restrictions should imply tht times should not be able to leap significantly post q1 and q2. 3. AI drivers agression is ridiculous. 4. Practice sessions poor wt Zero telemetry to analyse and produce competitive setups. 5. Rubbish add on features, interior design, shopping for clothes, super cars , boring. Solution focus on the racing, focus on analysis, focus on telemtry and real world engineering