Why Feminism Is Poison For Women

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[@tamething1]

As a woman, I've felt a lot more bullied by feminists than I ever have by men.

[@CourtneyHaynes]

Of course because you are a conservative women. As a person of color I feel bullied by conservatives more than anything else, but of course, I get called a "snowflake" for that and you get pats on the back.

[@abdullahemirisci4146]

Courtney Haynes bullied how?

[@CourtneyHaynes]

@@abdullahemirisci4146 oh, called stupid, on welfare, on a plantation, n-word, and I've even been threatened with my job. etc etc etc

[@CourtneyHaynes]

@@abdullahemirisci4146 and of course there are people wishing I would die or get raped.

[@XSaVrAiNoiRX]

Same! I've taken so much crap from other women for not feeding into their radical bs.

[@magicmike289]

What feminists actually want: The power of a man. The privileges of a woman, and the responsibilities of neither.

[@sammielovessophie9519]

Perfect!!!

[@peaceprosperity99]

Many have tried and fallen short, but you actually managed to sum it up in one sentence. Bravo!

[@oaktree1290]

That's deep, and true.

[@EBUNNY2012]

Awesome truth.

[@cranky1812]

You need to make t-shirts with this.

[@horsesense6173]

Feminism is the ideology that demands equality of the two sexes through preferential treatment of women.

[@anoesis5669]

1st and 2nd wave yes not 3rd.

[@horsesense6173]

@@anoesis5669 - Now, feminists no longer hide the fact they just want to emasculate men and boys .... unless they are black, Muslim, gay or girls pretending to be boys.

[@MarkyIsNow]

There are a lot of fucks in the world I am learning to turn a blind eye to those and move on

[@graymatters7584]

That line is genius.

[@mohit6657]

@@anoesis5669 not anymore they hate men that's it

[@nchinth]

they're also anti-FAMILY

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family

[@feartheghus]

Blumpking we know, we are talking about feminists, not women.

[@jemi3822]

@rebeccamaria63 what?

[@roca967]

@rebeccamaria63 I've been enjoying the ideas of Jennifer Roback-Morse lately, and one point she makes is that childlessness is like the price of entry into professional jobs (like academia, journalism - the idea disseminators). Probably not on purpose, it's just that in order to complete the degrees and build those sorts of careers usually means delaying starting a family, maybe until it's too late. So the nature of those fields tends to exclude family oriented people, so we're less likely to hear that perspective in the news and universities. - That's not to deny your point about some outright anti-family ideologies out there btw! Just offering another factor that makes sense to me.

[@Nothing-wl4ul]

@@SuperGreatSphinx We know what a family is and its definition. No need for wikipedia. And Feminism seeks to destroy it by degrading men and making women to be like men.

[@namelessfire]

The most absurd part of this exchange is that this feminist neckbeard was legitimately implying that Andrew Klavan doesn't read.

[@Squee_Dow]

This is the typical condescension you get from those who embrace feminism. Yet another reason to shun it.

[@rderyk]

.......he's a typical soyboy who thinks he's better than anybody else coz he's a male feminist.......feminism became his religion now......... xD

[@tamething1]

namelessfire : Amazing how he writes all those books then, eh?

[@GoA7250]

namelessfire The assumption is that you don't understand the feminist point of view because you are uneducated on the matter. This is the language of tyrants.

[@2403rygar]

Yeah his little comment he snuck in at the was lame.

[@yesenia3816]

Feminism has taken, among other things, our femininity.

[@marywebb9127]

👍

[@anneb889]

Q Women were pushed into the workforce by feminists.....and feminists were encouraged by the elites.....more people working, more people to tax. They also allow no fault divorce and more single motherhood. More homes, appliances, etc. great for corporations to make money.....horrible for kids. Statistically children from single mother households have the worst outcomes. But that’s okay, they can make money off them in the first profit jails later in life.

[@yesenia3816]

@Q I'm sorry you've experienced such harshness by men. I used to believe the same. Yet, I've since learned that feminism was started with those lies. Just like the wage gap. Feminism is not about being equal to men. It's about having power over them. I don't see feminism fighting for equality in Muslim countries. I don't hear of feminists protesting against child sex trafficking. Feminism is about power. Do I believe a woman should have the right to choose her path? Wholeheartedly, I do. Yet, I will never call myself a feminist because feminism has been one of the great catalysts for why our country is the way it is. And, I would say it is the sole purpose for the destruction of male esteem. No thanks. Give me my macho man. Give me my foo foo clothes. And, give me my place as the woman God designed me to be.

[@theobserver3753]

@Francisco Villares just another asshole in the comment section...

[@ThatGirl912]

Louder please 🙌🙌🙌🗣🗣🗣🗣

[@realextrememotivation]

“Feminist philosopher” 😂😂😂

[@BillZomono23]

"Women good, men bad. Every bad choice: sexism fault"

[@seanlynch2579]

Vikram Kavalipati it’s like saying a dictator is loving and compassionate

[@electricspark5271]

😂😂😂😂

[@TechTonic_India]

Thats funny. You misogynist son of a bitch. 😂😂😂

[@lilsaam]

Simone de Beauvoir Judith Butler Mary Wollstonecraft Martha Nussbaum Betty Friedan Angela Davis Sally Haslanger Julia Kristeva Yeah completely impossible to be a feminist philosopher :////

[@paulgernah9990]

A male feminist in 2019 ....is a fool. No offense!

[@aadiskywalker]

He's just a virgin hoping to get laid

[@MrK.A]

Totally agree.

[@theirthereandtheyre2947]

My wife, God rest her soul despised feminism. She loved being my wife and the mother of our child. She was the best human being I have ever known.

[@mandymaharaj2010]

Happy to know you had such a relationship with an amazing woman, sounds like she had a wonderful husband during her life! Sorry for your loss, sending you strength.

[@gary-tw5vw]

Rip to your wife she sounds like a traditional excellent loving woman, at the least you got to experience real love, most young men now a days won’t

[@HateBear-real]

I am sorry for your loss. My best lady friend was very similar.

[@Nothing_And-Nowhere]

It's not that feminism prevents you from being a good family woman. I know several feminist girls who are good wives and good mothers (my paternal grandmother included)

[@Nothing_And-Nowhere]

@@XV-rc4dn REAL feminists DON'T HATE men

[@markslist1542]

Who is this giant 5 yr old with the bully boy stare trying to enforce his favorite books on people? He needs to read books that teach him to grow up so he doesn't do that kind of thing. Listen bully, you either have the argument on you which you can talk about, or take a seat.

[@muhdiversity7409]

Which books you've read is not an argument. Especially when his game is "gotcha" I found one you haven't read therefore your arguments are invalid. Watching a grown man do that is cringe inducing.

[@markslist1542]

muh diversity Cringe inducing? That is because he's your run of the mill far-leftist. Not sure Antifa does any less of a job making others cringe.

[@CourtneyHaynes]

I don't think it's a good argument either, but I do think both sides should try to read to works of their opponents so they are at least not giving a strawman argument.

[@znerd3664]

@@CourtneyHaynes yes but he could have said that without being a total jerk

[@CourtneyHaynes]

@@znerd3664 , true. It helps if people approach these conversations with some degree of civility.

[@MultiAlanR]

Why is it that when talking about an ideology that demonises men, all we hear about is how it affects women?

[@StarWarsomania]

MultiAlanR Because when trying to reach out to brainwashed people, or people who only see the first layer, it's easiest to show them how the brainwashing ideology hurts the people it purports to help. Communism was very anti-business. But you are going to get a lot farther showing how communism destroyed the lives of the poor than you are showing how anti-business it was.

[@patticarey9016]

Perfectly articulated, Andrew! 💜👍

[@LC_from_MO]

Klavan is brilliant. Thank you so much! Stay at home moms are being disrespected by feminists, when they deserve the utmost respect. I wish I could have stayed at home instead of trying to pursue a career and making compromises both as an employee and as a mother. Driving myself crazy trying to do both things the best I could.

[@CourtneyHaynes]

I'm feminist and I have no problem with stay at home moms. I would have a problem with the belief someone of them express that women *belong* in the home, but whether you are a stay at home mom OR dad, I have no problem.

[@LC_from_MO]

Courtney Haynes good on you! You are what I consider myself to be... an old-school feminist. I guess I started to get turned off when Hillary Clinton disparaged her husband’s credible rape accusers and moms who “stayed home and made cookies”. Feminism is not what it used to be. Neither is the Democratic Party.

[@talsapps]

@@CourtneyHaynes But you claim that you want equity. I call bullshit.

[@anoesis5669]

@Turquoise Cheetah Being a conservative doesn't make you a racist. Being a black conservative doesn't make you an uncle Tom. You're just mad we chose to think for ourselves.

[@nickd2296]

@@CourtneyHaynes The issue is that feminists demand "equal pay" and still want to "marry up." Men typically do not have the option to be the stay at home parent!

[@EchoSigma6]

“Boys will be boys.” - Gillette

[@inspectorvoid]

Lol

[@cryptosquall3535]

Now they’ve lost about 10 billion in revenue, that’s what you get when you attack your main audience

[@EchoSigma6]

Jerry Hernandez Agree! I’ve moved on to HARRY’S Shaving products now. Also, I no longer buy Nike for my family or myself.

[@kevinmiller5051]

Switched to Dollar Shave Club right after that commercial, never looking back. I had been using their proglide since I could shave. Not anymore.

[@badcompanygg]

Lol at the bearded feminist straight up googling feminist authors on his phone to try to prove him wrong...

[@ggeo1364]

i was thinking the same

[@Crimsonfireball]

@Ed Hes probably transitioning so its gone forever.

[@znerd3664]

That guy came across as really demeaning and disrespectful

[@nchinth]

you're too kind. he's a pompous a*****e

[@znerd3664]

@@conscious5122 the rando who was asking Klavan. Klavan was trying to be respectful like usual but the other guy was very condescending

[@Jazzpiano96]

It’s the arrogance of thinking you know everything when Andrew has not only read but lived through all his life experiences. I wish people would listen more carefully then quickly dismiss opinions they don’t share.

[@znerd3664]

@Kayla Jordan questioning is fine but a certain level of resoect needs to be shown while doing so

[@DreamsOfLegend]

The guy with the beard is harboring some Militant feminism I think

[@IratePuffin]

“I know more than you because I’ve read more books my professors made me read” - that guy.

[@unikeko96]

I'm a woman and I'm not a feminist and I never will be one. I'm 'humanist', lol

[@MrTrincent]

"The more you read the better you know." Seems like a smug comment on that one. Hopefully, he was listening, and will focus less on reading every book on feminism and will start reading books on how to be good/great man.

[@dvndavid]

If your reading someone who writes out of their ass everything you learned is crap.

[@RogueMamaStitcher1]

@@dvndavid Exactly! Glad someone said it. Anyone can be a writer nowadays partially because the far-leftist CEO's in huge corporations. Crap is getting pumped out via media faster than ever before ! You have to search and dig for quality..

[@talsapps]

@@dvndavid If you read from many sides of the arguements you get a better perspective though.

[@viveknamikaze761]

He should buy a better shirt before one of the buttons fly. Instead of advising him, I think he should spend 50$ getting himself a new one.

[@YouCanCallMeReTro]

Feminists: We can wear whatever we want! Also feminists: By wearing that, you're contributing to the sexualization of women! Critics of feminism: *Eats popcorn*

[@izdatbOi]

I'm vegan, and conservative/republican/etc., so I never liked the insult "soy boy," but damn it if it doesn't fit this guy so well.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism

[@izdatbOi]

@@SuperGreatSphinx Uh, why?

[@gunn25]

Men shouldn't be wasting their time reading feminist non-sense.

[@blankpage9277]

And women should?

[@gunn25]

@@blankpage9277 Nope.

[@andyd568]

Who is this fool trying to lecture Klavan.

[@ecshady14]

@Ed Findlay collage?

[@DrCognitive]

Even Christina Hoff Sommers doesn't agree with modern day 2019 feminists.

[@iankinnell5643]

I think Germaine Greer feels the same

[@akclever6771]

All animals are equal, just some are more equal than others. - George Orwell

[@rcdr898]

An absolutely perfect response. Incredible!

[@RogueMamaStitcher1]

The way the guy cocked up his head when Klavlan said "creep" makes me think the guy feels defensive about that word. Maybe a little creepy himself ?

[@ofadetergentsud]

Reading doesn't teach you how to think.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading

[@trina8350]

I felt like a waste and a stupid woman when I stayed home with my kids when they were small. People would ask what I do for a living, and I would respond nothing I’m just a Mom. Now that I’m older and can say wiser. I am proud that I did stay home. Feminism made me feel second rate when I should have felt 1st rate for doing what was best for my kids!!!!

[@giovannaroma9527]

You are so right, today women are looked down upon to for taking care of their own children instead of leaving them with a bunch of strangers? Everytime I say I could never leave my children at a daycare 8 hours a day everyday I get nothing but hate. What about free choice aren't feminists for that? I guess not.It is really horrible that they make women feel like they are wasting their life for doing what nature is telling you to do..

[@HateBear-real]

Why would you ever be ashamed of being a normal woman?

[@UIAL570]

I’m guilty of it in the past myself. To look down upon stay at home mothers as lazy and not contributing to society. Only now do I see the magnificence of such a decision. A woman is literally raising the next generation. And if a child has a solid family foundation with protective, hard working and loving father and nurturing, caring and homely mothers it can only go up from there. I’ve wanted to be a mother since I was 8 years old. But even at my late teens/early twenties everybody told me “don’t have kids till you’re thirty!” (Which is ironic because women become shockingly less fertile at that age) Or “go live you’re life first” as if children are some form of death! I adored the idea of having little children to adore and care for. It’s all I dreamt of. It’s sad that today’s mindset won’t let women who want the simple pleasure of doing what we were created for, and I’m not saying that to demean women. We can do pretty much anything. Be a lawyer, philosopher, judge, pilot, solider, teacher etc. But our bodies are wonderful in the sense, we are built to bear children. Our minds work in a way men’s do not and vice versa. That’s what makes us good couples. I’d want the same for my son. If he wanted to get married younger than average and have children I wouldn’t tell him not to. Irregardless I would over joyed. Just like if he wanted to work to become stable in his life with work or school, of course, by all means go do that. If it’s what YOU want. Not what society today wants for you. Healthy, traditional values have been thrown out the window as backward.

[@darrengordon-hill]

*God in Christ, Christ in man, men over women, women over children* These days school/media teaches kids and THEY teach mom (they get good grades so must be learning good things... right?).

[@viveknamikaze761]

Very beautiful, but it will be a perfect life to find something to do while taking care of a child. That's perfect.

[@idontknowwhattoputhere371]

Darren Gordon-Hill I’m guessing you’re a Christian, may I ask if you have ever read the chapter of Enoch? Thanks

[@NaohMkS]

That guy didn’t want to dialogue at all, his question was a direct attack to invalidate the opinion of the old man... like, after all that talk about why modern feminism is bs, he still goes “BuT I bEt yoU haVenT reaD thIs One!”

[@HateBear-real]

Like it even matters LMAO

[@reln72]

I once mentioned to a woman that a mother should focus on what it means to be a mother and take care of the children. My "derogatory comment" offended her. Its a real shame that many mothers find the notion of being around for their children, taking care of them, feeding them, helping them with their homework etc to be considered beneath them.

[@ermac6466]

The more you lisp the more gays will know you are available.

[@robertp7209]

Feminism turned into hatred and resulting disrespect for men, fully supported and encouraged by the state.

[@joshmuir8058]

the studies that have been done show that feminists are not more likely than non-feminists to hate men. journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.2009.01491.x#

[@titang6173]

@@joshmuir8058 what studies? It's all in your face

[@joshmuir8058]

​@@titang6173 read past the first 18 words of my comment and you will find a study. a study that also discusses previous findings on the question of misandry in feminism.

[@titang6173]

Joshua Muir that requires me to get a subscription. And I’m not sure how a study will help when a lot of feminists go on about how evil men are every other day.

[@joshmuir8058]

​@@titang6173 add me on fb or discord and i can download a pdf and send it over. and it can help, because if you see "a lot of feminists go on about how evil men are every other day", and the studies show they are not more likely than non-feminists to be misandrists, it means your experience is an anecdote, and it means you are putting feelings before facts. discord: Josh#6784

[@maskedintrovert7853]

People call you mysoginistic for disliking feminism but take a look what feminism does when it's out of control

[@reln72]

There is nothing derogatory about being a good mother!!

[@austenluego7680]

The guy asking the questions was incredibly well composed. I am utterly shocked he actually let klavan reply without interrupting. This dude's days on the left are numbered

[@porchtime504]

I like how these college kids think reading feminism will help people get it. I was on board with the idea of feminism until I was force fed the whackadoo theorists in grad school.

[@Ps139K]

Klavan is such a gentle and kind man. And he is absolutely right about feminism.

[@manuelag2128]

IAM a Woman, and i will never be a Feminist. I Love women, they are beautiful, we are wonderful when WE Walk in Our Nature. Bless you all.

[@sydb2848]

"The more you read, the better, " says the "male" feminist.. not if all you're reading is full of bull crap.

[@montycantsin8861]

I get that the questioner has his opinions, but the idea that you must continue to read writers on Feminism is bogus. There comes a point where you simply disagree with a set of axioms. Anyone who adds to the pile of books after that is just making useless addenda.

[@darrengordon-hill]

"READ UNTIL YOU CONCEDE"??

[@HateBear-real]

Being useless is the point of modern academia.

[@ritafernandes7218]

It would reflect very poorly on me, as a mother (of two little boys), to subscribe to feminist ideology. Not only do they see motherhood as demeaning, a biological drudgery, they see men and boys as inherently evil. I’m anti-feminist because I love my children and realise the most important thing I can do is be a good mother and wife.

[@yuukisama2001]

This always cracks me up. There's always someone that has that question, "What makes you the in the know on the subject", because he READ IT! Something that most people DON'T do. One thing that many anti- groups tells a person is READ not just "anti" views but also the "pro" views that are being expressed. This way you have a well rounded view. These people don't go into debates without knowing the source material. And even when you do, they still hunker down trying to prove their point. But what's put into practice already tells the truth. And even that's not accepted. Uphold the lie, the lie being sold. The majority of women who were and still are feminist to some degree have either denounced what they believed or still hold to small views. But they realize the damage feminism is causing. However they aren't really speaking up about the damage they've caused. NOW THEY themselves are looking at the worse happening in future generations. Some of them also helped shape and push this poison to new generations. NOW some are telling young people, that this is not the path you want to travel. Because they themselves are NOW also on that path. A pathway to unhappiness. They've gotten old, some have no children, or some out of wedlock birth that might not go anywhere do to indoctrination, custody battle with a child that has no future, no grandchildren, no partner that might love them, no future prospects and a loneliness of waiting for the end. Sure we all die alone, be it married or not. But when you end up regretting not having a legacy, it's worse. When the thought of "false" freedom would bring them happiness. Did they see this coming. NO. And now they are paying the price.

[@amk1689]

i never considered that i had a career, more like a series of jobs. health insurance costs, taxes, and inflation have eaten any wage gain. feel so grateful i could at least stay home with my babies

[@classycactus8449]

imagine telling someone to read feminist books so they can be more educated. LOL. I understand climate change people saying read the 'studies', but c'mon. Feminist philosophers say their stupid subjective opinion. You don't have to read them to have your own opinion.

[@johnpaul4597]

Andrew is not wrong though. My mother was a very intelligent woman who worked a full time job and came home and was a full time mother. My dad also worked more than a full time job As Foreman for the county highway department. They both made decent money and raised us fairly well. Even though all that is true my mom tells me to this day that she feels guilty about not being able to spend more time with us kids and she feels that she wasn't as good as a mother since she worked so much. This goes to show that there are women who wish that they could be home more with their kids but the economy requires they work more.

[@Globeguy1337]

That was basically the ‘You said a mean thing’ argument followed by the ‘read a book!’ argument (except less reasonable because it’s actually ‘read ALL the books’).

[@HateBear-real]

Someone who was actually literate would be pointing out the bias of publishers because, you know, they actually read.

[@majesticfool]

This girl I dated a few years ago was a mega, self-proclaimed feminist. She was in a band, at university, doing her psychology degree. Things didn't work out (prob because I was a cuck then and said I was a feminist too, just to appease her. subconsciously she probably wanted a self-affirmed, confident man.) She didn't want kids or marriage. Just found out shes now married and is pregnant through her instagram (the only two posts in like 5 years are news of her marriage and pregnancy.) I think feminism goes hand in hand with marxism, in that it placates that rebellious mentality youth generally have. Ofc when you're young you wanna do your own shit, not be told what to do etc. Feminism and marxism exploit that by throwing all tradition out the window. That's why you have these crazy marxist feminists (trust me, I was one.) And that's why wew hear so much about women in their 30s realising that maybe they don't want a career anymore and, surprise, want a family. Sadly I know so many feminists and marxsists who are now in their 30s still so ideologically brainwashed with these doctrines, because it literally becomes their character and spiritual world view. It's terrible and pathetic.

[@markslist1542]

Generalities are generally true? No.

[@willtheprodigy3819]

Yes. Black people are better at basketball... generally. Asians are smarter... generally. Women are more emotional... generally.

[@znerd3664]

@@willtheprodigy3819 sorta like how dr Phil always says "old sayings get to be old sayings because they're profound"

[@thomashanson6603]

By definition they are.

[@jonjonboi3701]

Bas Wenmakers Not true. Stereotypes are not generally true

[@jonjonboi3701]

WillTheProdigy Not true. Black people are not better at basketball. Most of the smart people are either Asian or white. Men tend to be more educational than women. Just look at all those intellectuals or famous scientists. Many of them are men

[@hellomissamericanpie4970]

Interesting take. My mother who was the greatest kindest most loving woman I ever knew told me this once. Having asked her why she never went to school for a career. She said ...all I ever wanted was to be a mother. Am happy to say that she was the best mother a daughter could ever have. So who is to say that her life was not a success other than those who are not satisfied with their own? My only wish is that when my life is done that my son can say the same about me.

[@antonyjohnsonchittilapilly8498]

I fail to see how being a mother or for that matter, being a parent is not a job.

[@rosalyng1979]

What I didn't like about his speech was the way he implied that even if a woman says she wants to be an astronaut, she somehow has this "deep, secret desire" to actually stay home. Please believe people when they tell you their dreams!

[@LiftYagami]

“If I say Maria LaGonez with an accent, I will seem smarter.”

[@patricktuorto]

"well who haven't you read? oh that one Feminist author out of the 100 that you've already read? ah maybe you should read more" - Soy Boy Bluto

[@11darklight11]

That boy probably haven't read even one book.

[@radiandrea]

The arrogance of the question poser is disgusting.

[@Bobsheaux]

"The more you read, the better." OHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He got PWNED because there was ONE PERSON whose works he didn't read!!!!!! *facepalm*

[@robertallencad1]

Dammit kleven your are a genius

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Embarrassment to real men! A man who, for whatever reason, projects himself to be a feminist. This is disgusting. Likely, attempting to affirm his value to himself and a bunch of women. Andrew is absolutely accurate in his assessment and approach.

[@darrengordon-hill]

This guy just RUINED his "wild oats" college years!!

[@katrosajin7744]

I feel like the people who think feminists are actually like this, talk to feminists online exclusively. I'm someone who's goal is to have a successful business that my husband can later on take over so that it gives me opportunity to be a stay at home mother by the time I have children. And I get nothing but support from both sides. I've never seen a feminists give someone shit for choosing to be a stay at home mom exclusively. Conservative values ≠ anti feminism. The people who draws lines like this I doubt have real life experience on both sides and/or draw conclusions based on single experiences. I have been told by men that my place is to be only a home maker. I've been told by women that it's crazy that I decided to get married before I turned 20. If a women says "I don't ever want to be a mother or have children" and you get offended by that, you're part of the problem. If a women says "I want to be a stay at home mom and let my husband provide" and you get offended by that, you're part of the problem. Some feminists may say things that may feel like they are attacking the choices of women, but majority of the time those are mainly mainstream speakers that people see, and not the opinion of the average feminist. And if that's the only time of feminists you see, more than likely you are inside an echo chamber of people who make political commentary on a small minority of feminists. The internet makes things look black and white, but generally people end up in the gray spots.

[@katrosajin7744]

@Asha I get what your saying. I don't even take it as being cynical either. But it can be seen that some people like to say that they encourage women's choices, only accept the choices they agree with. Just like a right leaning person would say it's my place and duty to be a home maker. Or maybe a left leaning person would raise an eyebrow if I decide to let my husband be the "bread winner". My point is that everyone seems so ready to pat themselves on the back for accepting women, but only as a ploy for their own political views. And all these comments saying "I feel bullied by feminists". No, you feel bullied by people who don't accept choice. But based on their personal experiences, they see it as "FEMINISTS DONT SUPPORT WOMEN" when in actuality it's their bubble reinforcing that idea that feminism is harmful. When the average feminist DOES support choice. So I'm not trying to jab at anyone specific, but trying to say that this tribalism that only conservatives support women's conservative choices is extremely flawed and black and white. Because they only use supporting conservative women's choices as a pawn in their political game. Which something mostly right leaning people do. So im not taking a shot at people who tell me I'm married too early, but rather people who use my experience as why I should be AGAINST feminism. It makes me think they have actually never really communicated with feminists, that thats why they have such a polarized view on anyone who claims to be a feminist.

[@Voicist]

Ignored everything he said and instead gave him a list for suggested reading. Excellent

[@debedwards1717]

Everything Andrew says here is true and I agree with.

[@jonjonboi3701]

Deb Edwards no it’s not. Andrew Klavan is a misogynist and there was even a quote where he even admit that he is a sexist. He is even against working woman by saying that it is losing their femininity. Just look up the lefties dictionary video of Andrew Klavan talking about feminism. Andrew Klavan even thinks feminism is inherently bad which he is obviously a misogynist and is against woman’s rights. He is so misinformed about feminism. Here’s the proof that Andrew is a sexist ricochet.com/211623/archives/why-i-am-a-sexist/

[@silviot8177]

The moobs on this guy tell everything you need to know

[@beverlyanne5699]

I could not stand my sociology proff in college, she was a feminist. I was in the Army (Woman) and hauled A$$ equal to any member and did not complain. She said I was "brainwashed", I said I could toe the line, break the glass ceiling, sneak up on any counter part before they knew I was there and DEMAND what I was WORTH. she would skipe and wine, finger point, blame, all without getting shit done. Now who do you think gets more "FEMININE" role modelling done to progress society? Feminism is oppressive. Pick your leaders and define yourself.

[@peterengland8131]

Reading a different feminist, thinking it will change how people see the overall issues, is like saying we should try socialism one more time, because we didn't have it right before.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

[@findingadrenaline]

Exactly! Thank you! Real men are masculine & cherish feminity, not feminists.

[@michaelvallin55]

Anyone that tells me “I’ve read everything” has immediately lost all credibility.

[@jamesa9004]

The ones who have read Atlas Shrugged see the parallels in that modern feminism has released men from an eternity of carrying female burden on their shoulders. Ironic that a woman wrote it. Men are saying Grasias, Odios and peddling away on their fish bikes.

[@CuriousMindYoutube]

I am a muslim. And no Muslim cannot be a feminist if he believes islam.If i was there i would have destroyed that dude.

[@mohit6657]

Man i hope my son doesn't turn out to be like that guy in the audience.

[@janewrighton9227]

Thank you Andrew. Being a woman that has worked in a male dominated field (Engineering) for 40 years , and saw the beginning of the "Women's Lib" movement back in the 60's. I didn't like it then and DO not like it now as it has gotten more toxic. Women's lib (and or the feminist movement) took away the family life that made this country great. It didn't give women any more rights (actually took them away) and terribly hurt children. I said it than and I say it now. I didn't need it to do what I loved doing which is engineering, but was actually hurt by the snide remarks and actions from "The Guys" I worked with because of it while raising my two kids.

[@spidaman0112]

As some below have spoken about. The great evil of feminism is to convince young women not to have kids. Children are one of the great joys of life. Why do they push so hard to deny other women that joy?

[@JagjotSingh]

Some things are learned better by experience. Could sense the guy’s passive aggression.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Male roles were historically held in esteem not because they were more important, but because they were more physically and psychologically straining. It's natural to want to be at home with your own flesh and blood, like women were for most of history. And more men died at work and war than women died in child birth. That's why women always outnumber men in every society.

[@obviouslyasockpuppet]

I don't need to read feminist literature to know I want nothing to do with it. All I need to do is observe feminist behaviour. No matter what they tell the dictionary definition of feminism is, feminism is as feminism does.

[@lindsayeekwolknight8715]

Pay homemakers and child raisers the same salaries as a CEO and nobody will complain. These are the most challenging 24/7 jobs that most men can't speak on as they don't have the experience. Live this experience and you will agree with feminism because that is the essence - equal pay for work/labour.

[@fieryeurochick3194]

The arrogance of some people who ask questions because they somehow think they know the answers. Wait until his love for so called feminism bites him on the ass.

[@rickberny1424]

You know you failed in life when all you can do in a 1 on 1 debate is recommend feminist books, and he's a man..

[@Soridan]

That not so subtle "educate yourself, shitlord" at the end from the 'feminist ally' had me rolling. Of course that's his "argument".

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

In today's world, there is a strong emphasis on masculinity and strength. We are encouraged to repress our emotions and be strong, no matter what. This often leads to an accumulation of stress, as it is impossible to be strong all the time. Furthermore, when we are not allowed to express our emotions openly, it can lead to feelings of unease, depression and a lack of inner peace. This is why it is important to try to maintain a balance between strength and emotion. We need to find ways to express our emotions without judgement, while still being strong and resilient. Only then will we be able to achieve true inner peace and be able to cope with the stress of our daily lives.

[@rustyspygoat4089]

Asking if you have read a book, is not an argument.

[@roxwyfe]

Feminists scream that whatever decision a woman makes is fine - as long as they tow the party line. But let a woman choose to stay home, have babies and love their family and their tune changes quickly and dramatically!!

[@feminismiscancer827]

I remember some Feminist said : *THE MORE FAMOUS & POWERFUL I GET THE MORE I CAN HURT MEN*

[@allisonanne571]

Loved Klavan’s response here, very well said. Are things in this country ever going to change? I’m a very cynical person, and I worry that we’re just going to get worse. I grow more resentful towards my own gender everyday.

[@razor-sharpthoughtfulness907]

With modern-day feminism, it's not about equalism, it's about supremacy.

[@ericthered9655]

Will we ever teach these children logic and critical reasoning skills? Notice the kid never asked Klavan to explain his comments. He basically just attacked him as not having enough knowledge (ad-hominem) and then argued that he doesn't have the proper bona-fides (appeal to authority). These are fallacies, not arguments. We need to start teaching children the difference.

[@del4532]

Feminists are truly miserable. Life affirming joy and happiness is so disgusting to these banshees. The laughter of a child, the warmth of a home, the loving embrace of a husband and the happiness of grandchildren repels them. They are taking young women on a journey full of misery and depression.

[@stakeaphobicz498]

Women throw equality out the window when the concepts of dress code and make up in the work place come into play.

[@elliemay1748]

He is equating feminism the concept with how some radical people practice feminism. They are not the same thing. The problem with movements is anyone can join them and claim they represent that community. What he doesn’t like, is what SOME radical feminists believe, but that is not what feminism really is or what it’s about. Real feminism is about giving women choices, to make a home and have children if they want, or become successful in business if they want. And to have the same choices for men.

[@Fatherland88]

Anybody else remember when this country used to not suck?

[@idontknowwhattoputhere371]

Fatherland88 There was never a time. America had always “sucked”

[@abhishekm1681]

feminism is healthy when we men believe in it and women earn it!

[@nobodyinterestingyou]

No,equality Is healthy.Feminism Is just a political movement that wants power and privileges nowadays.Creating In Its wake only more division and sexism between everyone involved.There's nothing ''healthy'' or ''earned'' about any of that...

[@Yor6ure]

Feminism is not a poison to women... opportunistic Feminism is .

[@mcnutta1]

Thank you Mr. Cuttlefish...for your stunning and brave question....

[@123krompir]

That NPC has turned his virtue signal up to eleven!

[@Monty2289]

WTF is up with this Fisti Splinters line of question? What feminist philosophers have you read that makes you an authority to report on something as complicated as feminism? Philosophy doesn't...make you an authority on anything much less feminist philosophy.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy

[@avalonjustin]

4:54 Dear God, THANK YOU! Give a little boy a chance to grow up and be a good man, who respects people and tries to be a good person.

[@raulrubencolunga5284]

Uh, this poor male looks so touched that it makes me feel that he is certainly not using his critical thinking, and instead, he's just using his tweaked feelings to judge the world. You know...

[@All-By-Myself]

Who’s the bearded feminist with the question 😹 very good answers 👏

[@jaisyw7569]

Feminism has made me feel like my choice to raise a family and be a good mother/wife/homemaker is less than. My parents believing those lies also made me a latchkey kid... I was miserable. And anyone who talks badly of my sweet son or husband... I’ve got the same 2 word response as Klavan😏

[@joshmuir8058]

it's feminism that allowed you to make that choice to be a homemaker. without it you wouldn't have a choice in the matter.

[@stormhawk31]

I love how Klavan just schools this dude politely, without even trying, leaving him to wallow in his own idiocy and impotence.

[@derjoh1986]

That bearded guy was being a smart aleck!