Why Gen Z Loves Dupes: Can Cheaper Also Be Better? | Talking Point - Dupes Revealed (Part 1/2)

From fashion to household products and even travel…you name it and someone online will have a ‘dupe’ for it. ‘Dupe’ short for the word ‘duplicate’, is now part of online lexicon. How did ‘dupes’, a less expensive alternative to a more costly product, become part of popular culture? Why is finding a good ‘dupe’ a point of pride for Gen Zs? The Talking Point team finds out as they make their way to China, where anything, and everything, can be made for cheaper, and perhaps even better.
00:00 Introduction
01:47 Why Gen Z loves dupes
6:24 Popular dupe products
7:40 How dupe culture has changed fashion
10:53 Dupe VS original make-up
14:38 Dupes from China: What's trending?
16:26 A factory that creates dupes of a popular activewear brand
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[@minimalistmin]

I think there is a diff between dupes and counterfeit. Dupe products are established brands at a lower cost compared to the original more expensive ones. Counterfeit are just fake copies from original brands. I guess that's capitalism for ya.

[@karlylo]

Those words are synonymous, before when you say "dupe" makeup, it's literally a knock off. 🤷‍♀️

[@cheny6489]

See how they have got u believing in dupes... Its all marketing scam...

[@Andrew-qg3ni]

Dupes are duplicate version of the original product. Counterfeiting is trying to make exact copy of the original to make it appear original. While Lower cost brand Doesn't try to imitate a luxury brand.

[@cheny6489]

Thats means same LAH.... just different marketing lingo... aiyooo... Gen Z trying to convince ownself...

[@boy638]

The biggest victim of fast fashion is the environment.

[@matreen427]

dupes have always been around. Let’s hope that the dupe makeup are minimally from reputable companies and not counterfeits (unhygenic ingredients lurked)

[@sugunaite7199]

Handmade doesn't meat $0...there are material costs and typically cost in terms of hours spent making the item...

[@user-pr4li7hv2v]

Personally as Gen Z myself, I think dupes are veryyy valid especially for activewear. I’m just wearing it to the gym and back so tbf, I don’t really wanna invest much on it like LuluLemon where one piece of activewear is almost like a weeks worth of allowance. I have tried some of our local brands like Kydra and Lunablys. I bought a set from Kydra but for me, I think the price is a little too high since I’m currently still studying😭 My friend recommended Lunablys and the price is so student-friendly. I was a bit sus when I saw the price so I bought a set and wore it to a few of my gym sessions. The material is really soft and doesn’t stick to my skin after all the sweat. I think I had my fair share of cameltoes after buying on Shopee 😭 so thank god I finally found something that works for me

[@jasxteo]

Oh my I went to check the prices but I am not even willing to pay that price! I go decathlon to buy my active gear and I am in my 40s!

[@melshen]

such DOPE content! i really am actually quite impressed with this marked better quality of our online SG local content - keep it up! 😊

[@SuperYogagirl]

Also, with dupes, my biggest concern are toxic chemicals in the make up. And as far as Shein goes, the working conditions of the people who have to make those clothes...

[@drakesawesome13]

dupes? yeah the counterfeit industry is booming everywhere in the world. this is not strictly a gen z thing

[@aysmch622]

Yeah it is,i see basicly cloth,bag,even smartphone/electronic and for sure there is food,just for example crispy fried chicken... Or chips there is many of them tho

[@Dandelion_flight]

So good to see the manufacturing process in China… very interesting and informative.

[@stephyschoice]

Its so important to also look for quality given the ingredients used.

[@StarrySunnie]

Thank you, CNA 🙏🏽🙇🏻‍♀️ one of most interesting subject. However, how could achieve sustainability?

[@angelalim0502]

Want to be richer, get Dupes. Want make others richer, buy original.

[@Olvlmathscience]

Back then, using counterfeit/ oem/ lookalike items are look down upon and it would be better to go for a more affordable brand if budget does not permit. Now giving such items a new name and calling it a new culture over glorify the use of counterfeit/ oem/lookalike / knockoff. Instead of being more down to earth and using what we only need, now we are totally heading in the direction where we “save” money while supporting parties who possibly infringe copyrights or abuse and underpay staff to reduce production cost and maximize profit.

[@iwouldliketosee1]

Interested to find out how the activewear held up against the original and also the testing method and duration. Feel like the differences in quality may not show up on initial usage. Also with their own product customization (higher waist band etc) is it still fair to call them dupes?

[@mehhhh5588]

Makes me wonder how authentic brands, especially the high end ones are dealing with such aggressive 'competitions'. Maybe CNA can do an episode on this? 😂

[@dolan-duk]

The only "dupes" that I can think of that I own are some game controllers and a "China version" of a boutique computer casing where the original is hard to find and very expensive.

[@ngohoiGEM]

What is the dude activewear store on taobao?

[@tinachan7013]

I wouldn't buy dupe/counterfeit make up from unknown brand, you don't know the ingredients used.

[@angelalim0502]

Lucky you to be able to afford paying higher price. I not sure if you ever heard of “no frills”? Branded comes with an extra price which may not be necessary, it is just a marketing gimmicks to make the buyer feels good and the seller richer.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

Dupes are not counterfeits. Look up what dupes are. Dupes are similar products but from established brands. Just something like another brand making a lipstick in the same color is considered a dupe. Counterfeit is making a fake product but lying and labeling it the same name as the original brand. Dupes use their own brand name. The prices of luxury brands are ridiculous and unfair. Dupes make those similar products more accessible to poorer people.

[@angelalim0502]

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c precisely the point. People who only prefer “branded” are paying for the cost of those branding and no wonder many are always complaining that cost of living is high when there are cheaper alternatives of equal or maybe even superior quality than some branded.

[@rudywidjaja]

The perception of duplicates being cheap often arises from a failure to recognize the creative process behind the original design. The extensive time and effort invested by the designer, including research and meticulous crafting, contribute to the true value of the design. Consequently, duplicates appear cheaper. However, it's crucial to acknowledge that the primary victim of this perception is the creator of the original design. Their brand appears more expensive due to the comprehensive costs involved in the design process.

[@freemagicfun]

The dupe is cheaper - it is not a perception. A major factor in it being cheaper is because there is no research & development, but it is cheaper. The ethics are debatable... 😎

[@elliemorgenroth2385]

No discussion of the safety of these products?

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

Dupes are from established brands. Not a back alley or black market. Just something like making a the same color lipstick or similar item is a dupe.

[@mapperid]

dupes are good for increasing competition. However, with China's massive manufacturing, it becomes problematic for local businesses to compete. I bought some dupe and they offer a cheaper price and 4 star quality.

[@CaraMarie13]

I wear little makeup, but the ones I buy are great quality since they tend to be produced by the same manufacturer. I will, however, will buy the higher price items for things like the under eye concealer from Armani is one I won't ever try to get around paying. The Armani lipstick as well. But my foundation is from loreal and primer from elf which have always gone the distance. I would never wear cheap makeup directly from an unregulated Chinese seller. I already heard about the risks associated with those products and will never risk. I only buy second hand clothes so I always buy the origina l

[@Steph-qz5jl]

Can someone tell me the brand of the activewear dupes?

[@emilia2411]

Lulus

[@AngelineNgkittykat]

Moving Peach, Air Active

[@cheny6489]

china makeup dupes content is risky...

[@lilil8093]

some chinese makeup brands like flortte and judydoll are actually FDA approved

[@adoroselatte]

​@@lilil8093 I use Judydoll!! I love Judydoll 😍

[@ctnorth__6480]

The dupe price is easy to achieve.. as branded selling their name.

[@andrewchen8125]

The entire Gen Z culture are dupes; fake social media, fake emotions, fake everything 🤣

[@jantv1990]

so youre saying that singapore is a poor country now

[@peterpiper5300]

I love the skin color of the host. Glowing tan.

[@peterpiper5300]

@@psgistheworstclubineurope loving the same color as mine is racist?

[@lifeinplasticisfantastic]

If you use imitations when you’re in university,no one will believe you bought the original even when you have money

[@nwch9958]

I’m surprised that no body talking about intellectual property at all. These so called Dupes copying the original idea of famous brand who invested big money in design and invention. Those dupes suppliers are literally stealing the company intellectual property

[@sleepy_dobe]

PD Chan can be a host/presenter also. And her Chinese good siah!!!! So young already so good at her job. Bright future ahead. But be careful eating Chinese dupes food. I wonder if they've already moved on from fake food.

[@itazuranakissooo]

Uhm are you sure? Her pronunciation was quite off.... (& yes before you judge me I work in the translation field).

[@Dandelion_flight]

There are definitely loads of quality dupes around like clothes and accessories that when I get them I feel very proud of myself 😂😂 However for make up I would be careful as the dupes may not have proper quality control? Powdered make up may have talc which may cause cancer? Do your own research.

[@aysmch622]

Talc is mostly used in powder especially face powder, in here in Indonesia there is big pharmacy store have some brand called marcks and Venus that the face powder ingredient was Talc there is zea mays starch/maizena/corn flour My family basicly used it when they are young,like 17? Years old and now they were around 60... But there is no skin cancer was appering because of Talc... If you think Talc was cancer cause just because it is from rock,then titanium oxide/zinc oxide (pysichal sunscreen) should be cancer cause too because it is actually from rock,no.... It is metal...

[@aysmch622]

The one that make it cancer causing was asbestos,if the Talc was contamination with asbestos

[@Dandelion_flight]

@@aysmch622 Yes Asbestos indeed, but i am really not sure about talc. I really do hope it does not cause cancer, but i just want to be careful. There are things in nature that can cause cancer eg heavy metals, and how about lead and mercury? Natural doesn't mean does not cause cancer, right? Wood dust can also cause cancer if breathe in too... We just have to do educated research. Not all products go through testing.

[@iblessyou.forextrablessing7597]

Which is an affordable app then 😊

[@ysngngys7753]

19:44 Oh pls dun react in this way even if you feel otherwise.

[@Clipsdiscover]

Mrs goh???

[@kisin]

How good IS dupe makeup; no? (ref. thumbnail) 🤔

[@godsamazinggrace5331]

you have been duped!!

[@coniprobasco5751]

Make up is dangerous. You don't know what you are putting on your skin

[@MrAtomUniverse]

You find uniqlo dupes lor

[@anziar3038]

S'poreans are very rich indeed. Thanks to the PAP govt for bringing them wealth by means of high-paying jobs.❤❤

[@angelalim0502]

Get richer by getting dupes 😜

[@whatyalllookingat]

in china to me dupes are copycat like their cars

[@mindful47]

These people are missing in spirituality. Go study yoga. Keep yourself simple.

[@martinbrock713]

Veteran editor PN Balji seems to be vexed by one pressing issue in Singapore more than any other

[@jonnieinbangkok]

Isn't the gay illegal in Singapore 🤔

[@jrukawa11]

pretty boy

[@martinbrock713]

Despite the government’s arguments that it has drawn alternative ideas by recruiting former critics in the public service and that it pays highly competitive salaries

[@martinbrock713]

Balji is not convinced. “They rely on the same means of recruiting new members into their party, their groupthink is their Achilles’ heel.”

[@jer2911.L]

Never heard of this guy Balji before. Anyone knows anything about him?

[@martinbrock713]

(4G) leaders and the challenges they will continue to face amid the longstanding “groupthink” approach of the government PAP's shortcomings are largely due to its groupthink approach of running the country, according to Balji.

[@jer2911.L]

Is Balji an expert on groupthink strategy? What are his credentials? Anyone knows?