Why Global Airlines’ First Airbus A380 Flew Across The Atlantic With Its Landing Gear Down

[@sierragutenberg]

Bro, this looks like the default airline in Microsoft Flight Simulator lol

[@sakethvarma5079]

😂😂

[@ryanlittleton5615]

I was literally getting ready to write that lol.

[@max1999_]

I said this on their first video about this lol

[@lnewton3677]

Looks like an Instagram scam deluxe.. everything points to Global Warming your wallet

[@ILM-Aviation]

Fr lol 😂😂😂

[@jude_the_apostle]

Summary for those searching the comments: The Mojave storage facility it was stored in didn’t have the appropriate jacks to hoist it off the ground for landing gear tests.

[@alanngli]

Appreciate all of the details, but you could have explained the reason first before keeping all of us in suspension. This is not a thriller channel, succinct information should be your style instead.

[@TheRightONe-et3gh]

specialy since it was pretty obvious

[@shakeelali20]

To be fair to the channel, they do call it a "ferry flight" at 0:37 so they did kind of give us the answer right away.

[@oliver9089]

Definitely a 30 sec video that was dragged out 8 minutes longer than necessary

[@tyttuut]

That's how you increase watch time.

[@ice711real]

Lmao how did they milk this to 8 minutes

[@corpsimmons575]

They kinda dance around the point: It’s the same reason other planes on their first ever flight fly with gear down. They don’t know if the gear will work, so they fly with it down and locked so you don’t end up with the gear stuck up on an experimental (or recently mothballed) plane

[@fernandoferre1684]

Thanks for the spoiler.

[@Rasscasse]

The spoiler is a different part ha ha 😄

[@fernandoferre1684]

@@Rasscasse hahaha true

[@sierragutenberg]

Hope Global Airlines will be a success 🙂

[@user-cc7vx7sw4z]

It won’t

[@Coasterpostalt]

@@user-cc7vx7sw4z We know, but we still can hope.

[@rashdin]

​@@user-cc7vx7sw4z stop being toxic

[@sierragutenberg]

@@user-cc7vx7sw4z hater spotted

[@skyjet_av]

Global Operates A380s how will they keep up

[@Clickworker101]

Hope global airlines will be a success

[@stephent3963]

All the video had to be was one sentence……the landing gear’s hydraulic system need to be tested but they didn’t have jacks to do it

[@jobbiejew]

Glad to see it at PIK, my local airport. I still have little faith in the future of the airline due to the amount of PR it’s received. It’s a very loud non-airline at the moment until it flies its first fare paying passengers but this has been spoken about for far too long. They showed us CGI mockups of the aircraft in Global livery but it’s still in China Southern livery. They give off Boom Supersonic vibes - very loud but not much else happening on the passenger front. We had a flyby of an A380 in October 2013 at Prestwick, it didn’t land by came very close to the runway as it made its flyby so technically we’ve been visited by her before.

[@atticom]

Mine too! Im from castle douglas lol.

[@jobbiejew]

@@atticom I’m in CD fairly often :) I’m just up the road from the airport jumping between Ayr and Kilmarnock

[@atticom]

@@jobbiejew :0 wow! thats amazing! hope you pop down soon!

[@Rasscasse]

Jonathon Winton filmed this landing live at Prestwick if you’d like to see it. Worth a watch on his channel. It landed 01.05.24. Aircraft tail number 9H GLOBL

[@allezvenga7617]

Thanks for your sharing

[@send2gl]

7 Tons, that is amazing.

[@grriceman782]

You go Global Keep those big birds in the air

[@bosnianaviation5531]

Very interesting

[@simonlangmead7]

I wonder what the fuel consumption difference would be, flying the same altitude and distance, wheels up or down.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Double the fuel.

[@Tryuiip]

higher because its less aerodynamic

[@IOSARBX]

Long Haul by Simple Flying, This is amazing! I subscribed right away!

[@justinw-bs7053]

It's a bot

[@nickgiles7568]

Thanks for a fascinating insight. Those jacks look so small to hold the weight of this plane. Hope all progresses well as it must be costing a lot to have it sitting on the ground.

[@airplanepilot7477]

*The livery looks like a default livery for a flight simulator* 💀

[@lsismeiro]

Great video. The only surprise was that it was a Portuguese commander bringing the plane. 😊

[@antontsau]

Its cheaper to ferry gear down rather than deliver all equipment and high-payd personnel to Mohave or use some fbo service nearby (us, canada) for such a rare in America machine.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

An FBO doesn’t do these things.

[@Adjudicator1]

Agreed. The only way to justify moving the jacks, personnel and maintenance equipment to perform this safety check is if there are multiple A380s in storage that are reactivated, where the expenses of pre-positioning the maintenance facility and crew are less than the expense of burning fuel of multiple reactivated A380s ferried in gear down, low altitude configuration.

[@marcel-rudimantaj4773]

It was supposed to come to our airport following a stop in Beja and then down to malta

[@Tina-d8f]

Hope they are successful.

[@eldarabbas3724]

I actually saw it on flight radar!

[@neilpickup237]

If the A380 has a gear down warning, I hope that they were able to disable it!

[@se-kmg355]

It would only limit the aircraft maximum speed. So as long they are below that no warning will be heard.

[@Trash_Can81]

There’s no warning for gear down.

[@garyodle5663]

No, this is not a testament to the skill of the pilots. It is a testament to the skill of the Flight Dispatcher that planned the flight.

[@SeverityOne]

Funny to see an A380 with a Maltese registration, because they don't fly there too often.

[@peanuts2105]

It's all about TAX avoiding

[@theagentsmith]

At least Luqa airport has 3350m long runways, an A380 should take off and land, but with no passengers as they have no appropriate gates

[@SeverityOne]

@@theagentsmith They can land and have landed here. I've seen one with my own eyes. In fact, the only large aeroplane that never made it to Malta is the An-225. Even Concorde landed there once.

[@mitseraffej5812]

I noticed that the grid fins on SpaceX’s super heavy booster are fixed, not retractable like the ones on the Falcon booster. The reasoning being that the drag penalty is less than the weight penalty of having them retracted on launch. I’ve often thought that with modern computer modelling and design the same could be achieved with jet airliners. I have been told that the undercarriage system is the most expensive single system on the aircraft, both to build and maintain. I guess in this age of sustainability reducing maintenance costs by burning more fuel is not acceptable but weight savings of a fixed undercarriage might reduce fuel consumption enough to counter the extra drag. As I said if the drag could be designed out.

[@VyarkX]

There is a theoretical minimum to drag as a simple result of the cross-sectional area of the body and the fact that it has to displace fluid as it moves. The difference here, is that superheavy and falcon are only in the atmosphere for barely a minute before they are high enough that drag beings to rapidly become negligible. Aircraft fly for tens of hours through (relatively) dense air, and even tiny drag penalties will add up. Also note that gridfins are aerodynamic devices designed to be, well, aerodynamic, whereas landing gear are first and foremost designed to hold the plane on the ground. Also keep in mind that rockets suffer much more from weight penalties than aircraft.

[@mitseraffej5812]

@@VyarkX Have you taken an interest in the research project Boeing and NASA have recently launched. In essence it will be an extremely high aspect ratio wing braced by struts, kind of like a Cessna 172. The struts are required to enable the wings to be built extremely light, and the added drag of the struts will be easily compensated by the weight reduction. Aircraft weight very much counts, this is why airlines actively encourage crew to operate with minimum fuel and most include on flight plans the cost of carrying extra fuel.

[@VyarkX]

@@mitseraffej5812 ive not heard of that actually, ill go read up on it later. My point wasnt that weight savings isnt important for aircraft, its just nowhere as important as it is for launch vehicles. A landing gear assembly is also not a small piece of equipment (cross-sectionally speaking) compared to struts or even gridfins, and the additional shrouding/paneling needed might even offset some of the weight savings of not needing actuators. But who knows, maybe theyll find a way.

[@mitseraffej5812]

@@VyarkX I read that the first proposal Lockheed put forward for what became the C130 had fixed undercarriage, it was rejected by the US military more out of concern for the image than anything else. Of course on slower aircraft form drag is less of the total drag than faster aircraft.

[@PakaBubi]

So what plane they used when they painted "Global" on the fuselage months ago?

[@se-kmg355]

Ex Hi-fly 9H-MIP parked at Tarbes Lourdes.

[@EsotericDesi]

It's time to come up with its own livery and interior...

[@fredericmarohn-bh4qr]

ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL BIRD BACK IN SERVICE A WONDERFUL EXTRA EFFORT TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING YOU REALY WANT !!! HOPEFULLY THE TRANSFER OF THE OTHER A380's that Global wants goes as well,❤❤A BIG PAT ON THE BACK TO GLOBAL AIRLINES GO AIRBUS❤AN THE A380'S BACK TO WORK!!!!❤❤❤

[@ianstewartorr8455]

It’s not the first A 380 to visit prestwick the first one was when the A 380 was brand new it visited the airport to manoeuvre and fly past because components are made for it there I was there that day the First A 380 visited prestwick airport

[@dshack4689]

it makes it clear that there were no landing gear test jacks in Mojave esert storage; but I'm still very surprised that it ferried all the way to Scotland for the landing gear test and not just a ferry flight to somewhere near Mojave that does have the jacks; although I guess once you start conducting some of the maintenance I guess you may as well do all the maintenance? Or jack testing far more expensive in US than Scotland?

[@simonf8902]

They didn’t know what lever to pull 😂

[@Turbo_orca25]

The gear retraction likely wore in the desert

[@supersonicadventures123]

Nice video

[@moekitsune]

I give global 5 years after their first revenue flight before they shut down

[@MrDiamondFlyer]

and probably completely reinventing their business model 5 times during that process ... still, you are generous with 5 years ;-) They make me think of Air Belgium, although more spectacular.

[@rdspam]

Very optimistic.

[@PakaBubi]

Agreed

[@Turbo_orca25]

Emirates running for it’s a380s after this

[@carlos.a.sanchez201]

I'm routing for their success for this third competitor to compete British Airways, and Virgin Atlantic Airways since both are well stabled airlines. Hopefully, they can one day join Star Alliance and build a future partnership with United Airlines, Avianca, Thai Airways, Air Canada, Air India, and Singapore Airlines.

[@peanuts2105]

No chance competing against BA. BA route network is huge and impressive. One aircraft is token at best

[@carlos.a.sanchez201]

@@peanuts2105 The future of aviation is bright and you never know what the future holds.

[@sondrejohansen48]

@@carlos.a.sanchez201with how the market is consolidating in Europe so much, I don’t see how Globus will succeed. At most it will become a decent charter operator but not at all be able to compete with any established players

[@malcolmmacdougall]

sounds like Freddie Laker, lets hope they do better

[@CJMVector321190]

Why are people worried about the fuel. You just pay the bill. A cruise ship uses 85,000 gallons a day ( marine fuel which is very low grade). Now extrapolate that for all container ships moving cheap Chinese crap. Airlines are very efficient.

[@annoyingbstard9407]

Those ships carry over 20,000 containers weighing potentially 20 tonnes each. I’m not sure your attempted comparison with a few hundred people on an aircraft bears up very well - even if those passengers were American.

[@Jabsbshs]

Also global airline tends to order the a350 family in time

[@PakaBubi]

This startup is still fishy for me.

[@NeilEvans1980]

Glad I’m not the only one looking at this one with a raised eyebrow.🤨

[@itrollspeed_56]

Hmmm, why did it flew trans-Atlantic if it’s not yet accomplished the necessary checks to be airworthy? 🤨🤨🤨

[@Dirtdaredevil]

3:23 china eastern a380

[@globaltraveller]

It is not the first A380 to arrive at PIK.

[@pangaea6united]

Wheres the plane now just chilling

[@cabottaxi]

Where is it now being painted as it's not in Preswick I believe.

[@Rasscasse]

Still in Prestwick according to FR24. 9HGLOBL tail number

[@fredMplanenut]

Must have been a costly option.

[@PavlosPapageorgiou]

It seems like an enormous waste of fuel. I'm guessing other airlines could get access to service facilities in the US by talking to their peers or alliance partners, but Global is a bit of an outsider and had limited options.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Nobody in the US has the equipment for that a380. If it was available, they would’ve rented that equipment.

[@Adjudicator1]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Or if there were MULTIPLE A380s that are being reactivated and happen to need that servicing at that location.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@Adjudicator1 agreed, 100%.

[@IIPetite]

“A380 😈 🤖”

[@Notmq99]

It’s crazy how they had the guts to do that

[@jantjarks7946]

No risk, no fun. I hope they make it, it's a tough business model they chose.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Where is the guts in all of this?

[@dalecooper9942]

YMX should be Yucatan Mexico and not Lanche Mirabel Airport

[@mikek5298]

The next airline to go bankrupt.

[@zainav4life7068]

It hasn’t come out yet so wait and see

[@chaoszombie9995]

Its the fear of not getting the gear back down too, goes for any aircraft wether it’s the 380.. or a small little propeller plane like the Cirrus SR22 after sitting for as long as these have

[@TravellingTechie]

With gear down, fuel consumption is doubled, and they'd be limited to 8 hours max flight time, and max of 35,000ft (FL350). The max speed would be 245kt/M0.62. That is a looonnngg, slow, rumbly flight!

[@Trash_Can81]

You’d never get to F350. I doubt that it would have sufficient power anyway, but at that altitude green dot is well above mach .62. According to FR24 they did the flight at FL270. Gear down above about 200 knots is very noisy, and as you’ve said, very thirsty. But, I see no reason why you think there would be an 8 hour maximum. The specific range may be halved, but the fuel flow isn’t doubled. You just don’t get as many miles per gallon.

[@TravellingTechie]

@@Trash_Can81 I’m literally reading from the A380 FCOM. 8 hour maximum flight duration. Plus, these are maximums, not targets. I just stated what are maximum limits. Also green dot varies with weight, empty ferry weight I wouldn’t know without going into the performance tables or on the Onboard Information Terminal (OIT) apps.

[@Trash_Can81]

@@TravellingTechie Interesting. I don’t ever recall reading that limitation. I still have copy of the manual, so I’ll have a look. I did have a go around with unsafe gear once, which involved a bit of a navex around the LA area. We did accelerate on downwind, but it was far too noisy, so went back to about 180 knots.

[@TravellingTechie]

@@Trash_Can81 it’s in Supplementary Procedures under Flight with Gear Down. There’s a whole set of procedures and preparation required. I’ve only ever done a 3 engine ferry.

[@Trash_Can81]

@@TravellingTechie Had a look at it. I don't understand why there would be a specific 8 hour limit, and the PDF manual doesn't elaborate. I'll have a look at the electronic version tomorrow, and see if that gives a reason. I wonder how Global got around the "no icing conditions". Pretty hard to do on any long flight.

[@christoohunders5316]

interresting, albeit a bit long

[@anthonyscarborough3813]

Why would a jet plane be flown with the gear down, let alone an A380?

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Did you not watch the video? The airplane required the gear to be operated on jacks after it sits for that long. Jacks were not available in the US.

[@remittri]

as much as I love the a380 this is a gimmick

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

?

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

How?

[@rileysteve]

Speed and altitude restricted! VERY expensive ferry!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuel guzzler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@andrewbennett7756]

It wont last this company

[@JxH]

The crew, except the PIC, had agreed to be paid handsomely per hour, but only for the period from 'Gear Up' to 'Gear Down'. The PIC was in on the scam. Everyone else worked for free that day. ;-) !!!!!

[@stephent3963]

Airbus advertisements

[@chete4479]

This is All Ridiculous ! , you waste ridiculous tons of fuel , risking running out of IT , at ridiculous Slow speeds, during Endless hours , and All because your airworthiness Certificate is EXPIRED ???

[@cilviademo]

Get to the point already..

[@TheAngelo854]

Video is a total waste of time. Make it a short next time.

[@IPutFilesInDrive]

Does global f,y to Taiwan

[@billb7876]

SCAMMdemic get it right please

[@moekitsune]

Shut up

[@fra93ilgrande]

Mom look, with the gear down! 😂 ✈️🔝 🛞 🛞 🛞 🛞