Why Herniated Disc Exercises Don't Work. Must Know This!

Bob and Brad discuss why herniated disc exercises don't work and what you must know.
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0:00 intro
0:25 why some exercises may not be helping
1:47 a stretch for a herniated disc
3:04 using a broom for stretching herniated disc
4:16 where to find more
4:55 outro
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[@BobandBrad]

Looking for more options to treating you back pain from a bulging or herniated disc, check out our Sciatica Program www.bobandbrad.com/health-programs/sciatica-relief-program

[@BobandBrad]

Rick Olderman, MSPT also offers a great program on back pain, learn more here www.bobandbrad.com/resources-all/back-pain-program-

[@fazeelalaher6250]

Was wondering wheres Bob . Glad to see him

[@marymarysmarket3508]

*Sure miss seeing Bob!

[@direstraights]

Awesome!! I'm still doing the Shoulder stretch on the door jam and definitely opens it up..helps the intercostals as well. 🙏 Thanks P.S. Glad to know this about herniation

[@obamasossa3964]

I was doing deadlifts, injured my back. It’s been 3 months. Still discomfort, but better than before. But when I lay on my back it’s like my spine moves or the muscles gets really tight. Also when I am on my side

[@elizabethpacheco5557]

Praying for Bob, I appreciate Brad moving forward and continuing this beneficial channel that has helped a lot of people, God bless you all and Bob stay strong and it is good to see you! Send a wave to us !

[@BipolarBilly52]

What happened to Bob?

[@PMB_80]

​@@BipolarBilly52 he has asphagia

[@jujube2407]

​@Priscilla Brown right? But why is he off screen now?

[@GenXstacker]

@@jujube2407 He's in the background. Didn't you see him?

[@Sumerdini]

@@PMB_80what is asphagia ❓😵‍💫

[@jns0913]

Hey! Good to see Bob back there. ❤

[@raeb84]

Pilates and gyrokinesis are my two saving graces since my herniated disc diagnosis 4 years ago - stretching and decompressing my back and learning how to properly use my glutes, hamstrings, and ALL of my abdominal muscles really well. I’m shocked how long I was doing weight lifting and other exercises (with personal trainers even!) without ever really being told how to use those muscles and when/how they should be working.

[@glendarorick9833]

Yep! I am a Pilates instructor for many years and the mistakes people make in gyms are scary. And, of course everything else you said is correct

[@yankeemania2345]

Have any recommendations and videos?

[@tosue1]

Good to see Bob! 👍

[@brianrasmussen2956]

Good to see Bob in background. 😊

[@lessons9745]

I had a herniated disc in my 40s. During PT I was told to do that exact exercise he was doing at the beginning of the video.. BIG MISTAKE! After a few repetitions, I suddenly had excruciating pain and sciatica for the first time in my life. I believe that particular exercise pinched my bulging disc or even made it worse. It's 10 years later and I ve been in constant pain since and injections and meds don't work at all. I have been advised by several surgeons not to get surgery unless I can't walk or get major nerve symptoms because they say back surgery isn't that successful and only makes the arthritis spread up your back faster. So I sit here literally bone on bone in pain for over a decade

[@terryjbrown6953]

Same here, but I had my herniated disc since my early 30s, and I have degenerative disc disease, so I know what you mean!!!

[@IntegraDIY]

Same. 2 1/2 years constant pain, nothing helps. Is it even worth living anymore i ask myself

[@extremehandfreecycle7208]

There is a spine research company in Los Angeles, CA who may be able to help. Are you in California?

[@paula3582]

Try spinal decompression therapy. It has help me so much.

[@sammyo623]

I had keyhole surgery, it’s been 6 years now and it’s been fine. I just have to be careful when bending over, and twisting is a no no

[@What2B]

Hey guys. Nice to see Bob behind the scenes 🖖

[@smilesmile7330]

Thank you Bob Brad and Mike for your hard work! And the camera crew, everyone. Such a great team! 🙏🎉

[@user-gp2tz2ev5t]

Bob and Brad we love you. My prayers are with you.

[@zuzuspetals8323]

Just a quickie to say the new camera work is fab! Yes, let us love and help one another. Good advice! p.s. Hi, Bob! 😉

[@dradeel]

One of the most effective things I did for my sciatica was hanging/deadhangs, partially inspired by your videos for both shoulder health and spinal decompression. I wish I had an inversion table, but it definitely helps to just hang by your arms, drop everything and let your lower body weights pull your spine apart and suck those discs back into place before carefully "reassembling" yourself as you put weight back on your feet. Every sort of discomfort and pain in your back just suddenly evaporates and you feel so light and wonderful. There's definitely help in decompression.

[@danadavis6097]

I have a herniated disc for 17 years now. Changed my whole life. I used to jog and walk 5 miles everyday. Now I cant unless I had a cane or something to hang onto. I'm so glad you made the comment about hanging. I've wondered if that would help. I'm gonna try it. I'm sorry you have to live with back pain. It's so miserable. Again thanks so much for the advice. Can't wait to try it👍🤗

[@caestigers486]

@@danadavis6097 did hanging help your back.

[@MookaMG]

​@@danadavis6097Did it ever work out for youm

[@wicked_john]

Get well soon Bob, been noticing the slightly slurred speech in the past week and cannot believe you got ataxia. Gotta say even as a physio myself, I keep on learning something new everyday from your videos, all the best!

[@mathchurch7599]

We love you Bob ❤❤❤❤❤

[@awakenrae]

I am 30and have herniated disks and sciatica. I believe going to the chiropractor may have caused more issues and lengthened the healing process. It's been almost three months now with debilitating pain at times and not much relief. These stretches are great and do feel good while doing them thank you!

[@drew9496]

chiro = pseudoscience

[@thewhiteshedflowerfarm]

Thank you all for these videos! They’ve helped me overcome so many injuries and pain. Love y’all! Prayers 🙏🏻💕

[@carriewessel4425]

Hello to Bob, Brad, Mike, and team! :) Want to first say thanks for all the great videos. I’ve learned so much and my headaches are a thing of the past thanks to your TMJ series. And even though you haven’t found the cure yet for the broken heart…you sure have the cure for a homesick heart. 💔 I’m originally from Milwaukee, but now living in Germany. Thank you again for making such a positive difference in the world. Sincerely, Carrie

[@BobandBrad]

Thanks for the kind words, we're glad we could help!

[@prettegirlee]

I really love you guys. Special prayers for Bob💞

[@RobustMustache]

Love Mike, miss Bob.

[@kayleen9110]

Love to Bob♡

[@davidtanner4239]

I love you guys and follow your videos daily. I'm getting back into shape after a trip and fall accident in December 2021, where I fractured my right hand (boxer break) a torn medial meniscus (never repaired) and a herniated disk between C5 and C6. I did have the herniated disk fixed by an ACDF surgery by BioSpine Institute in Tampa on 11/30/22 and it was the best move I could do. I no longer have any pain and am doing P/T to get my range of motion to my neck and shoulders. Thanks to the surgery and your non-stop, helpful videos, I'm in the best shape that I've been in years. Thank you!

[@michaelandrew8493]

I've had herniated disk pain since I was 19 and when I turned 30 I found Stuart McGill and been doing his exercises for two years now and feel better than I've ever had

[@batboy9997]

I wish I found McGill's book years earlier

[@pmstff700]

Yes his exercises are great. Movement is very important, find what you CAN do. Small movements/range of motion working gradually with goal of increasing that. People also under estimate the importance of glute and hip strength for relieving back pain.

[@TheVickster321]

@@pmstff700yes! Glute and hip strength are SO important because otherwise it’s your lower back that is trying to stabilize everything and that causes it to be overworked and inflamed

[@GenXstacker]

Guys, this is exactly the problem I've had for the past decade. These stretches helped. Thanks for the tips.

[@camillecali22]

I was going to comment to tell Bob he is missed but then he is there supervising. ❤️

[@ali_cat024]

I wish I could show you guys my MRI and get some tips on stretches. I have 6 bulging discs, 2 pinched nerves, degenerative disc disease, facet disease, osteoarthritis, scoliosis, and spondylitis. The pain goes around my left hip and down the front of the leg. It feels like someone is just cutting into me and the pain is so deep. It has me in tears and so far, nothing has helped that my Dr’s have done.. it’s frustrating to say the least

[@longdec2]

Check out Rick Olderman's website. He is amazing and incredibly helpful.

[@vigneshwar.j]

This is sad, I pray to God that you find a right doctor and right treatment and get better.

[@guitarsarelikestupid7200]

Yeah the pain is so bad I think I am close to dying. Yeah. That bad.

[@ali_cat024]

​@vigneshwar.j that's so sweet of you. Thank you so much! 💙

[@ali_cat024]

​@guitarsarelikestupid7200 I can relate totally. I've wished for it at times.. its very depressing to not be able to do what i should be able to. Pain 24/7 is over the top. And since soo many messed up by abusing pain killers, the people who really need help with pain are looked at like a drug seeker/addict. There is a difference between being a drug addict and being physically dependent on pain meds in order to barely exist and do the bare minimum every day. Its a dismal way to exist.

[@gamesaber5997]

Prayers for Bob

[@mohitantil1154]

Thank you Sir.....loved the way how you teaching....

[@jvs2926]

Hi Bob!

[@g.g.2102]

Yay bob making an appearance 🎉

[@ek19751]

Poor Bob is on standby! Why Bob, why?? Get well soon

[@5877user]

Sending prayers for Bob❤️❤️🙏🙏

[@vv5171]

Thanks for your great videos!!!! I can be dense sometimes, so maybe I missed it, but I don't think that it can be stressed enough that anyone who has sciatica or back pain should look for a PT therapist who specializes in spines. The basic McKenzie method shown in the first part of your video absolutely worked to get relief and help to cure my severe right leg pain. In my first PT session (and all follow-ups for that matter) the therapist had me do a variety of movements and then had me try different stretches and exercises. Some that were tried reduced my pain and some increased it. The ones that reduced pain were added to my routines. Thanks to the targeted PT spine approach I am now off all pain and NSAID meds, back to normal activities, and completely pain free. The other day I walked my dog for about 2.5 miles. I'm almost back to normal length dog walks. Trying some KZbin back pain and sciatica relief techniques may help, but my advice would be to get to at least a few PT sessions using a spine specialist. Thoughts and prayers for Bob. I really miss his contributions and humor in the videos.

[@circa1890]

Was able to fix my c-5 with chin tucks and a McKenzie pillow .. (c-4 had to have ADR surgery. 😬)

[@aribella6913]

Hi Bob! Miss you

[@hildacorley967]

As I was watching you sit stretch with the mop I got to thinking an adjustable shower curtain rod would be better since it can accommodate any persons body height. Plus they have rubber end caps to keep it from slipping on the floor and the metal ones are sturdy. Additionally they are relatively inexpensive. Always enjoy ❤ your vids. 👍

[@annrubino6252]

God one!

[@obamasossa3964]

I was doing deadlifts, injured my back. It’s been 3 months. Still discomfort, but better than before. But when I lay on my back it’s like my spine moves or the muscles get really tight like it’s shifting around.

[@KP-lz3rs]

I wish I could have therapy with you guys. I'm 48 and have been experiencing terrible pain left hip lower back. Had a mri it showed 2 slipped disc l5 and s1. On the right yep right disc left side pain they are sending me to pain clinic. Where I'm sure they will used meds to help me.

[@BobandBrad]

Where are you located? We are thinking about having more real patients on the show while doing therapy... It might be an option in the future!

[@gofish721]

For me... there's only 2 words that bought me max relief for over 12 years that has changed my life to normal... inversion table!!!!!!

[@misbahhabib8866]

Whats that? Can you describe it please?

[@melesmesfin157]

​​@@misbahhabib8866You can find information about inversion tables on KZbin.

[@melbees1939]

Needed this one

[@JasonByrnes-c8n]

OMG this is what i needed the arm raise. I've been in 2 weeks of hell since trying some other dumb youtube bench press video to arch your back. (don't do this after 40) I learned the hard way. I went back to doing all my back therapy stuff from a car wreck, but I think its herniated disc. I'm basically been stuck for 7 days on ibuprofen and everything makes it worse except walking, but even then I walked too much. I raised my right arm just curious, felt nothing, raised my left arm, felt a pull across my entire back. Did the left a few more times and instant relief. I'm never putting my left arm down again. lol

[@MrKydaman]

That's right Br.... Mike. I caught that.

[@genx-tv]

My lower back spine had a huge, let's say "cavity". I could feel my spine wasn't aligned right. Something probably happened years ago when I helped with moving heavy things up and down the stairs and my disc slipped. Over the years I had this radiating pain, especially when I woke up in the morning. Stubborn me didn't seek help. It is only a few years ago that I did some rotation exercises of the spine. Gently. It was a KZbin video showing how one might "pop" the lower back. My spine didn't pop, but I noticed my spine began to align more and more and the cavity slowly disappearing. Mind you, it did come with some temporary side effects, as I had these sudden pinching nerve pains that caused me to totally fall to the ground. This would always happen suddenly. I would suddenly fall to my knees again and again. But this was temporary, luckily. Pinched nerves, I guess. I also do this thing where I lay on my back on the mattress and my buttocks over the edge of the mattress with my legs as support. With this I could feel the pop of the lower spine, moving into place. It took a few years, but now it seems everything is in place once again, although not perfect, but no more radiating pains.

[@maplenook]

I’m able to release my psoas with Alpha-Stim microcurrent, eliminating pain to right of tailbone. Incredible

[@renemary4109]

Much ❤ for you guys. Thank you.

[@Shadow1986]

your channel just gets better and better and funnier and funnier

[@kathywalsh977]

Will try, thank you!

[@debbyblack8410]

Missing you Bob! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@somebodyelsestoo]

and best wishes to Bob

[@kymberlyhounsell6872]

Can I please have one of those shirts with Bob and Brad on it. I love it Those exercises with your arms over your head I've been telling people about before I even seen this . I kinda fell on it by accident on my own they really good

[@matthewimi]

I need to figure out how to grow a disc. Day after day I'm dealing with the spondylolisthesis, ill for over L5, and it's not getting any better. They've offered me fusion but I'm not doing it because it'll just progress worse from there. I need help

[@paula3582]

Try spinal decompression therapy. It has help me.

[@somebodyelsestoo]

Hey B & B, love your work. But I have to say some years ago when I found I could not do the alternate lunges involved in classic xc skiing due to intense pain in my left quad I was diagnosed with a left side disk bulge by a physio around T12. This guy was a Robyn McKenzie trained physio and he had me doing side shifts to the right with my right shoulder against a wall and feet together 2' out from the wall several times a day. Worked a treat and I was back classicing within a week.

[@Blackswan999]

hi, could you send me some link (video,picture) of that exercise? would be really helpfull, thank you .)

[@billm7166]

I wish i could find something to help me I have 4 herniated disks, scoliosis, and bi-lateral sciatica what can I do for this I have pain right now and my tens unit on and it's not helping.

[@ipeksoran9554]

start pilates as soon as you can. you will see the difference even after a few classes, of course you should do it one by one lessons and with an expert who knows anatomy well.

[@billm7166]

@@ipeksoran9554 I live in the Philippines and I'm male you wouldn't catch me in palates I'm 6'4 190lbs and 49 y/o today

[@ajax7590]

I’m only 25 years old , I really need your guys help , I’m an American living in Japan right now and recently due to an accident of me tripping and falling and also passing out on the train , I have several herinated discs in my neck and I’m extremely afraid that they might be getting worse. When I got an MRI none were severe but recently I was laying down in bed and when I went to turn over in bed it did something to my neck and it popped and hurt really bad. I also think I somehow managed to tear both of my Achilles tendons , I don’t know how. I can still walk on them sorta but I can’t flex my foot down very well and I hear pop noises once in a while. The doctors in this rural area haven’t wanted to take care of me much , I’m afraid.

[@Daniel_Maxin]

Aren't these stretches on the side of the pain exactly the opposite of McKenzie stretches? That is, MCkenzie says to bend toward the painful side in order to push the disc back in its center location. With these conflicting therapy approaches, I wonder if we will have some animated MRI's where one can practice several moves, see what the damn disc does, and choose correctly the right move. That would be pretty expensive procedure but if it avoids surgery and years of pain...

[@magncity1817]

I think the point he was making in this video is after 50+ years old there is nothing to push back in related to a herniated disk as the herniating occurred at a younger age and isn’t really the sudden problem at an older age. Therefore your sudden problem isn’t that you found out about a herniated disk at he older age by virtue of an MRI showing a herniated disk. Thus, this video does not apply to everyone as he pointed out.

[@taranaabdinova2391]

İ suffered from herniated disk for a kong time.Recently i didn”n have a day without pain.İ bigan swimming and it helped me a lot.

[@Voiceovertehe]

Im so desperate to find a solution for my back pain

[@guayo18]

Same bro...

[@Voiceovertehe]

@@guayo18 i ended up going to dr sarah trahan in Arizona She gave me injections 2 sets 3 weeks apart each and it took the pain away for me to do therapy. Which I did and now 4 months later im walking and all better I recommend her do whatever you have to, to get them

[@Voiceovertehe]

@@guayo18 hope you read this

[@tjt9024]

To be clear - stretches and exercises offer temporary relief, correct? Until the disc protrusion is absorbed by the body, or removed via surgery, the pain won’t fully resolve itself, right?

[@YouTuber-lb9ot]

Where's the taller guy?? Their chemistry is awesome..

[@hubertcumberdale6404]

What if I have a herniated disc and there is no pain just zero calf strength? I fear surgery is what I will need since EVERY pt and KZbin channel only addresses pain. Again, I have a pinched s1 nerve root with zero pain just no calf strength at all. Is surgery my only option?

[@BobandBrad]

Have you tried the exercises even though you have no pain? If the calf strength is the result of your disc problem, then fixing your disc, regardless of pain, should help. Here are some calf strengthening videos as well you can try: www.youtube.com/@BobandBrad/search?query=calf%20strengthen

[@bdawg8907]

Inversion table has made the most difference in my recovery.

[@kaitlynwiggins2328]

What about cervical disc herniations causing spinal compression? My neurologist want me to have fusion and I’m desperate to avoid this. I’m not in pain. please HELP!

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

I can hardly walk, stand straight, sit comfortably or lay down in bed. Reaching up makes my calf muscle spasm. Hurts to walk and impossible to run. Being mobility impaired is hazardous while living in California.

[@sunflower6153]

I had my evaluation today with a PT. They had me stand on a machine that took a scan on my feet as to how I was standing. The computer made a picture of my skeleton based on my stance. It wasn't good. My feet probate bcz I have high arches, which, the Dr said caused my knees to bend inwards, and my hips to be offset, and everyone else off balance as well. So, I'm still not sure yet where my pains stem from. But this video gives me a great idea. I've tried other stretches, so I'll try this one! Perhaps it may give me relief for my hip/back pain. Thank you! 😊❤️ Loved this ending, it made me laugh! 🤣

[@garykeating2074]

What about an inversión table tried it and it made my back worse

[@joenisnapje712]

Hi Bob, I read about your ataxia. Keep the medication Methylphenidate (Ritalin) in mind. I suffered from blepharospasms and tardive dyskinesia for which there is no treatment. However I am symptom free for 6 years. Methylphenidate first but now I take Dexamfetamine. It performed a miracle 👍🏻 Maybe it could help you with speech and movement

[@batboy9997]

I have a bad disc at C7. That's a hard spot to alleviate

[@dragonrider9051]

I've laid flat on a yoga mat with a dog rope toy with the knot's on the upper traps. Deep breaths, through the nose. Takes about 20 min to an hour. Keep your shoulders up and back as much as possible. Neck tractions helps to. Ice also. I have a fusion c6-c7 with a bone plug and hardware.

[@kristophstjames4143]

mine , L4/L5 had it painful for about 8 months- was scheduled for surgery, kept working out, kept cycling the entire 8 months so I just worked around it, Started doing dead-hangs, at month 7, and about a month later I felt way better and canceled the surgery date. Now-- I did something and it's back, my glute is on fire when I sit..ugh, I am so frustrated!

[@vigneshwar.j]

Hi, I have sciatica in lower legs only due to herniated disk, does the exercises for sciatica showing here works for me.

[@ryaanwaldron7020]

what would you do if you cant reach up?

[@Valscomment]

Bob and Brad, what do you think about doing IDD therapy with the Accu-spina machine?????

[@KumarKhagesh07]

Hey Bob, Please tell me about Disc Dessication and how to cure it. What type of exercise can I do ?

[@LKaramazov]

Any ideas for people who supposedly have thoracic disc her Kati on where the ribs hurt?

[@RahulGandhiClub]

I have some walking issue I have already checked with Orthopedic, neurologist, physiotherapist but they are not getting problem. They said that ignore it. By this p problem I have leave the office

[@jeanies8495]

I love how these feel for my back, but I have bursitis and torn rotator cuffs on both sides with lots of pain and tingling in my fingers which feels CRAZY when doing these for my back. Are they still ok to do? Thanks!!!

[@dogie8c]

I have the same problem. How are you doing now?

[@FTLGSports-cw4hx]

LOL I am 60 and have a herniated disc - so I am hoping Mckenzies-Bird dogs-planks-intermittent walks - plus a diet change helps, get back in a few months👍

[@samiam830]

What was the second reason

[@fryguy714]

Every time when I think I'm starting to take a step forward I always take two to three steps backwards I never can get going again in the right direction I'm 62 years old now

[@lanchehui9514]

I was diagnosis with herniated disc, when I do the reaching high excercise, my thigh feels numb, why is that?

[@kymberlyhounsell6872]

Also water is so good I am full of arthritis my entire body oh my do it help

[@feoleb]

have you guys tried a reverse hyper? decompresses while strengthening

[@Taylor23890]

Done my L4&L5 back in 2016 . Currently right now I sneezed and I’m in agony . Taken my morphine as I do twice a day , and no relief

[@melissamitchell1065]

Hi Bob and Brad, I was working out in the gym and hurt my piriformis am now recovering from after a mth, but my muscle feels tight in bending forward help

[@fryguy714]

I've had three back surgeries and I have rods in my back I've had one neck surgery cuz I had two herniated bad disc at 6 and 7:00 or 5 and 7 now this one is two and three and I have a bulge there too and he said that herniated or the size of a pencil lead well even though they're small little bitty holes they sure hurt like hell it was enough to tear up quite a few times

[@AllThingsNew316]

Did you get a microdiscectomy surgery first?

[@shangoshi]

What do I do if the doctor only ever offers a CT scan instead of an MRI? I haven't gone in for the scan yet.

[@ronaldrutledge1243]

Get a new doctor

[@thesilver7238]

Insist for an MRI. I see no reason for them to deny one

[@samtingwong8627]

Thank you Sir

[@jamesgilmore1684]

Where's Bob?

[@b_uppy]

Thought you were hoping to say the herniated disk will pop as you get older...

[@EHiggins]

When you hang on a doorway you will find out the real build quality of your home.

[@maplenook]

Please discuss the book The Back Mechanic

[@jeanies8495]

I’m in agony, I think I herniated a disc 2 days ago, I stupidly got in my massage chair just now and I think I made it so much worse.

[@vlads.1]

That headset looks like a mole lol

[@robertomontano4371]

#1 change u need IS THE WAY U SLEEP

[@dr.shakingmyhead4167]

🙏❤️🙏

[@Badams814]

an inversion table changed my life, exercises and therapy were useless.

[@sharonh5399]

I have wanted to try. Wish I knew where.

[@claudiadresel4216]

​@@sharonh5399 They have them at Walmart or Amazon etc. 120$ &up

[@bristephens9642]

❤

[@kevanhess2105]

Ciao Bob🤗🫶

[@rileyheyden9746]

Where. Is. Brad.

[@drew9496]

this may help temporarily but no mechanism to fix the actual herniation lol

[@tomcat6933]

Those little microphones are horrible

[@BobandBrad]

Sorry!

[@shanpryce868]

I'm 22 😭😭😭

[@hoehoe360]

Same here how you doin now...

[@karimwahid9319]

Only solution to this is surgery