WHY I BOUGHT A TIFFIN PHAETON AND WHY IM READY TO SELL IT

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[@pablocruise678]

Provost is the best in my opinion... that’s why they cost so much... amenities... made to run...but you’re correct.. and I agree when you buy an Escalade for example... more stuff to break..

[@scottbrooks5662]

Ok Do you have a video explaining the high mileage motor homes models and makes and low mileages motor homes

[@gp3012]

Only 5000 miles/4 months out every year? With the loss of the depreciated resale- you were better off just renting an AirBnb than buying that RV.

[@willbillyheaven]

Beware all those Mercedes chassises have a very low cargo carrying capacity once an RV is built on them. I was really wanting one for a while but they just can't carry enough weight. I think the bare bones minimum CCC for a couple is 1500 pounds and you really want 2000 pounds or more. The Winnebago Navion 24V for example only has a CCC of 950 pounds. You put a couple of people in it with their clothes dishes food etc and your going to probably be over weight. That's the reason everybody that buys one of these Mercedes RVs immediately starts adding sway bars and suspension modifications to them to try and make them ride better when the problem is they're probably over weight.

[@keithschwaiger9951]

Andrew you better buy a used Prevost.

[@debratramm5279]

Check out this 2009 Renegade OTHER shared from the RVTrader iOS App.

[@markmartin5477]

You should get a Newell.

[@RVingwithAndrewSteele]

YES SIR! Exactly my thoughts after hanging out with the team and seeing the entire process in Miami. Going to keep saving my pennies for right now and am keeping an eye out for the right deal.

[@rockyfanatic6846]

You should have a driver drive your RV

[@cuttingedgestainlesssteel6771]

We are dry camping, dirt bike riding beach going folks. Our Tiffin Allegro , 2 slide is a great coach. Every thing works, every time you need it. We stole it at 15,5000.00 its a 2000 with 35,000 miles and 400 hours on Gen. It truly is about how you are going to use the coach. Adding a strip LED light down the passenger side is a must for light.

[@ninelaivz4334]

Can someone explain to me why a smaller coach is not good for long travels when they are built to travel and be lived in? That is their whole raison d'etre.

[@susanbengivengo2660]

WHAT DO U USED TO REMOVE RAIN DROP FROM BUD WHEEL AND CLEANED AND SHINE

[@gkmarket]

Andrew I think I'm going to make this easy on you. I'm wanting to know what brand of RV that you believe is the most dependable as in mechanically. I intend to put a lot of miles throughout United States it's me and my dog and I will be installing network devices around the country. I don't care about slides I want something that is absolutely mechanically sound and dependable. I am limited to $250,000 so what do you personally think would be the right choice.

[@132james1]

South Dakota huh I live in Sturgis

[@jasonh8043]

Renegade or Showhauler ?

[@virtualsolomon]

Seen your numerous videos on Country Coach. How does the Country Coach Monocoque( or is it Semi-Monocoque?) Dynamax chassis compare to the Prevost? In your CC videos you seem quite enamored with it. Is the chassis anywhere near the league of a Prevost/Newell? Anyone? I have an Allegro Bus 2009 43QGP which I really like but I do think about what the next upgrade might be . Don't see Prevost/Newell anywhere close to my financial ability. Thanks for the comments.

[@cycle47hall20]

That's a $64,000 dollar question.

[@josephgreen2050]

I think it's worth $698,000

[@dianedenroche1496]

I know I don't "have" a Prevost...but I was a tour bus driver for 25 years....and ONLY drove a Prevost Mirage...ahhhh....beautiful

[@davidstewart5014]

Andrew how does it Tiffin Fayton compared to them other motorhomes like Newmar and all of that just curious before I make a decision

[@stevenkukene9970]

Suck it up and get a preowned Prevost. You won’t be happy until you do! Bide you’re time and hold out for a coach in your price range that has been faithfully loved. Then don’t look back. You seem to be particularly fond of Emerald and Marathon, seek out an endorsement deal from both of those Coach builders. Your channel is popular enough to help any of these manufacturers sell more coaches. Go for it!

[@rogerfleury9759]

What area in South Dakota do you visit? Was born and raised in Oregon. Corvallis,Albany,Lebanon area. Loved it until I found out it doesn’t rain all the time everywhere else. Moved to Denver now in Pierre SD.

[@onmountaintime5637]

What a rambler!

[@ozarkliving7263]

How many miles on your Tiffin?

[@matthewmugglebee4110]

Why Prevost?? Just get a newer coach Andrew. Prevost aren't all that, Jeez! I just sold a 2017 Tuscany 45AT with 16K miles, what a great coach! Nothing wrong with it, sold it for a medical reason and my client couldn't travel like he hoped to. Put it to you this way, I can have my pick from American Eagle, Prevost H3-45, Newmar, Tiffin, Entegra they are all in my garage fleet, whatever, and MY personal coach..an 06 Monaco Dynasty! What does that say?

[@debratramm5279]

Dude- NO Forest River!!

[@scottyh69]

Looking to put 20-30k miles a year on a diesel pusher, and on a pre-owned Prevost or Newell at that? You know your stuff Andrew no doubt about that but the question you *should* be asking is how much money do you want to spend on maintenance a year. The bells & whistles are nice but like you said that stuff breaks down. If you're looking to push an RV pretty hard for the next few years I'd suggest going with a Super C, bank some bucks THEN buy that Prevost or Newell; you'll have the bank to help cover the maintenance. Personally, if I'd just dropped $30k into a Phaeton and it's in great condition, I'd keep it while putting money away so that finances aren't a concern when you upgrade to what you really want. Sounds like you have "new RV fever"; keep the Phaeton awhile longer.

[@FunDuude]

Hmmm. Most of your RV'rs don't do 30K miles a yr. That's more for folks that need to cover that amt of road for professional reasons. Entertainers, Car Racers, Truckers, Coach bus drivers for tourists, and so on. I mean 30k miles, that's like 10x from NYC to San Francisco a yr. I don't know of ANY Rv'rs that do that. So you're in a Select group. But Even in that group NO you do not need a prevost to do that. For Example for what we need on the road and to live in a Moho, A Prevost is Waaay overkill. If Prevost "living" is so imperative to you, I guarantee you you'll do just fine with a Essex, A King Aire, A london Aire, with a bunch of UPGRADES (if even needed). And if you know your MoHo's you know that the Top of the line Entegra, American Coaches with a bunch of Upgrades will do the trick too without having to spend Prevost money. JMHO

[@BrianSmithTheDukeofURL]

Just picked up a new 2020 Dutch Star 4369 at North Trail in Fort Myers, FL. I just took it on a maiden voyage to South Carolina for a dirt bike Enduro. Then stayed at Lake Greenwood Motorcoach Resort for a week. I put 2,000 miles on it and it performed flawlessly. The comfort drive is a serious game changer. In my old Thor Outlaw I experienced white knuckle fever every time I drove it. You can’t go wrong with a Newmar.

[@themusiclab2621]

Im getting the most expensive one and have it sitting in my big ass garage & no drive it

[@QLFProductions]

Sounds like you need a sprinter van not a big class A.

[@TheLolo919]

Prevost X3 40 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@philw7174]

Thanks Andrew, I sure appreciate your honesty and dedication to your channel. Have a great day!

[@czaz00]

Hello there we are looking for an RV to live in we are only 2 of us but we are not a small people also it’s bot going to be driven often and we would not like to pay more than 70,000 any ideas please.. Thank you

[@ozarkliving7263]

I wonder if Newell would do a minimalist coach? Your point about when gadgets go wrong is spot on. I’d love a single color grey metallic Newell. Manual basement slides. No power washer. No disco lighting inside or 1500 leather patterns. Simple, elegant, a less is more coach. I wonder the cost for something like that?

[@jibguy6516]

That’s the funny part they actually believe he put a palm tree in front of that you would bypass the crack If you think about the big picture it’s sad it’s like deceiving old people who have poor vision

[@GERMANFANPRODUCTIONS]

My guy that bus has Chevy Headlights lmao

[@thomastheys6681]

I may be wrong on my price estimate but the fact is today used coaches are selling overnight name your price.

[@thomastheys6681]

Rv Fun With Thomyt. Coming soon

[@MrBillygoat]

I don’t think it’s that easy , I would try to sell my 05 Tiffin. But Hurricane Laura took my house with it. Now we live in the Tiffin. It’s all I got now

[@robertoamill2821]

Andrew, I like $125+I'll put,$25,to compliment your upgrade..🚍🚐🍎

[@MrRicco39]

Brother go with the Newell. Follow mark martin get a nice used 2008. Stapleton42 knows

[@jibguy6516]

I better add would’ve been cracked windshield incredible deal in stead. They decide to go 1970s use card sales pitch to deceive blind with money

[@greengrass89]

Pickin up what you’re puttin down, but I’ve put about 4,000 miles this summer on my ‘97 holiday rambler endeavor diesel with no issues. I don’t see how racking up miles would hurt the house part of the rv in something like mine any more than a bus chassis except that maybe the bus chassis rides a little smoother. Y’all, putting 20-30k miles a year on any diesel pusher should not be a struggle for it.

[@nathanurick8320]

The real shameful thing here is you can spend hundreds of thousands up to millions and you have to baby it. Maybe we need to subcontract all this rv work to China or Germany so we can get a good product.

[@Origen17]

I'm "steering" clear of Camping World since the CEO effectively said he didn't want the business of Trump voters...

[@vhehn]

dam really? i should go there and see what they have for sale then. good people dont support a bad man.

[@NJ-Cathie]

Seriously?

[@Origen17]

Absolutely. Businesses insulting half their customers is bad business. You leftist lunatics have at it though.... 😀😂

[@brandonschopf1642]

"We rate this claim as PARTLY FALSE, as it presents a mix of true and false information. The meme wrongly claims Lemonis was speaking directly and specifically about Trump supporters in his comments. Listening to the entire audio clip, it is very clear that Lemonis was referring to anyone who was in support of the neo-Nazis, white nationalists and white supremacists who marched in Virginia that weekend." www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/31/fact-check-camping-world-ceo-misquoted-viral-meme/5660368002/

[@Origen17]

@@brandonschopf1642 yes, I know the exact quote. And it is still ridiculous for a company to virtue-signal like that. Still a pompous, self righteous position. Still implying that Trump said something he didn't.

[@roadrnnr2008]

Watched alot of your vids and love em, But I am dying to know what you do for a living? Certainly You tube Can't pay for these coaches can they?

[@pamatthew99]

I can't imagine spending so much and yet having so many problems pop up. Many of us can swing the coach but not the flipping repairs. It's a shame the state of the business. Can you imagine buying a million dollar home and having such problems. So I guess I'm forever stuck just looking. I would have PTSD if the bottom rotted out like yours did.

[@DANBROTHER-j4m]

I wouldn't buy from Camping World

[@slewofdamascus]

What about that 2016 Country Coach? Isn't that a good driver for long distances? It's definitely priced right. They have the comfort steer on that rig, too. Once a month I go look a that video, I just love the front kitchen and mid-ship living room. It's my ideal coach.

[@RVingwithAndrewSteele]

It sold bot that was an awesome coach!

[@slewofdamascus]

@@RVingwithAndrewSteele bummer, I envy the new owner, I hope he gets years of great enjoyment.

[@ashleymarks6144]

Lazy days stepping it up!? Not in a million years. I have only heard bad things. I know there are some full timers driving Newmars a lot of miles.

[@Winger-zv7or]

Have you stopped detailing?

[@CaSchamber]

I just sold my first RV (barley and technically an RV since it had hookups and toilet) it was a 1999 Coleman Tao's popup camper only an 8 footer, we towed it with my Prius !! Bought for $1,500 used it all summer and then sold it for $3,500, did nothing to it, and cashed in. Now I want a coach..... ;)

[@CaSchamber]

As for what you should get, it should be a Newell, reason being the word Newell is so cool to say over and over. Even better when you can say it while owning one.

[@NomadicSociety]

@@CaSchamber new mar sounds cool also but i like the way u think brohem :)

[@CaSchamber]

@@NomadicSociety Say them both out in a southern accent, it's the best. (I'm from Missouri originally) LOL

[@stuartkidney3257]

nonstop virtual signaling with heavy doses of narcissism..

[@biggun98056]

Andrew I was wondering what do you do for a living I’m new here thanks

[@trainman547]

I would love to know how you make money to do all you do.

[@smartass8084]

@@trainman547 He owns a detail company And now big u tubber

[@Samorsita]

Look at some Hemphill brothers coaches. I drive for them, may have a few star coaches for sale if you have not purchased yet.

[@shabby683]

Thanks for the information and honesty...I've started out with a 2011 tiffin allegro 38 red ..really love its power and handling...your experiences and thoughts have made me think about rving a little differently..thanks for your time.

[@deerman143]

We just sold our Tiffin Allegro Bus and bought a Newmar Mountain Aire. Couldn’t be happier with our decision. Those 365s on the front rims are sweet. Full wall slide out, awesome. We only drive about 8,000/year, but sleep about 3 months. The extra room in nice.

[@shell4death]

Go and built a sky house🤣

[@bobhunter3086]

Sorry bud. You lost me when you plug Camping World.

[@RVingwithAndrewSteele]

I have to keep my ear to the ground everywhere

[@happytrvlr]

This video was very ADHD inconsistent... why did you chop it up/edit it so oddly?

[@RVingwithAndrewSteele]

I'm adhd. It seems to get lots of views compared to other rv channels out there 😎🤷‍♂️

[@PrevostJoe]

I had a 20 yr old Prevost, nothing broke in 5yrs of ownership.

[@catalinstoica6919]

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[@catalinstoica6919]

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[@droningharry]

We are thinking about moving to a Coach now because of Physical issues I'm dealing with. I love to Tow, always been my preferred. Bring the house with us and leave it. Now though at 58 just getting harder to set up get in and out of among other things. Most likely a C but a big one that won't have any issues with pulling our Fusion on a Trailer. Market is fast becoming a Buyers one as folks have tried Pandemic RVing and finding it wasn't for them. Hoping that sweet deal will be out there for us. Still love our 2012 North Trail, if I could drive like I used to it be no issue. Oh well.

[@Blues2cool]

We run a Tiffin with 920 watts of solar 600ah of lithium. We fulltime boondock and run 9k to 10k a year. There have been suspension changes made koni shocks and a safety plus. Our coach is awesome we do our preventative maintenance and annual inspections. The problems we have had have been minor because of our maintenance program. If you think you can own a large motorhome without a maintenance program and drive it 20k a year You're dreaming.

[@wwz1011]

You can do a ton of maintenance on that Tiffin and not get anywhere close to Prevost cost. Consider the $$$ you are going to have into a Prevost, that is a continuing depreciating asset. + 10 to below, Super C would be a lot less money and maintenance friendly with forward motor.

[@christopherrasmussen8718]

Man he’s my buddy .

[@christopherrasmussen8718]

You know an 06/07 Wandeloge LXi 450 books $150,00, if you can find one. Absolutely Luxury. The last year was 09 and they are still north of $250,000. Like 3 exist. Tell me a coach other than Prevost that holds value like that. Lots of them have less than 100,000 miles.

[@brianlawliss1080]

I think that the Renegade is the best hi mileage coach around, please take a look, because I am going to buy one.

[@suseq45]

Thanks Andrew for sharing . You mentioned things I would not think of take care be safe 😎

[@timdunn2257]

Don''t bother. He just rambles and doesn't answer the question.

[@jefferylord3068]

Get a Thor Challenger!!!!

[@wimprezax]

Can't compare RV to Prevost. It's a Prevost. - Get the best.

[@chrish4483]

Probably right now you can get somewhere between private seller and dealer retail on your Tiffin....unfortunately, you'll never recoup the cost of the remodel/mods....

[@jeffmoses9996]

Camping world no wonder you paid so much

[@jwrappuhn71]

Good vid Andrew.

[@PrevostJoe]

Purchased a brand new 42ft Tiffin Allegro Bus in 2006. It fee apart in 4 yrs, everything broke. Only Bus conversions for me. Love my Wanderlodge...

[@playingintheband2126]

I’m in the same situation. I’m putting on a lot of miles. I have a 19 Allegro Bus and looking to get something new that will handle the miles plus I’ve had a lot of problems. I’ve been to Red Bay - they are great but still having problems. What are your thoughts about the Foretravel Realm?

[@andaleebmakki462]

An Excellent Choice ... High Quality Build ... if you can afford one And if you have that money, then you SHOULD look at 4/5 year old NEWEL too In my opinion, Newel & Foretravel are Value for Money ... Prevost is social/status quo By the way, I had Newel and have a Foretravel ... Never had Prevost .... lol ( probably, that's why I am biased ...

[@zmotorsports62]

Why does your Tiffin wear you out to drive? Are you sawing the wheel a lot? I just knocked down 650 miles in 11 hours on Saturday and never tired. Although I’ve done some suspension upgrades to our Dynasty, it drives like a dream and I’d rather drive it than the car. We only put about 8k miles a year on it since we quit racing but I can see us doing many more miles once we are able to retire. Our Dynasty only has 128k miles on her so there’s a lot of life left in her yet. Good luck on your search. Mike

[@davidjallen5087]

List it for $125,000. Bite the bullet and buy a Newell or Prevost in your price range.....Or, what about a Leisure Travel Van? They have separate toilet and showers, no wet heads. They look pretty darn nice.

[@craigorford9932]

What di you think to the renegade RV’s

[@bigbandguru]

I THINK that selling now just means you have to buy what is NOT there at the moment. But you are right about the rigs not meant to roll that much on the highway. Don’t go to Colorado... I judge the roads by how much clothes is still hanging in my closet. Colorado had nothing hanging when we got out of the state. They need roads badly....I-70 is a wreck and on the entire length in Colorado we saw 2 work crews...

[@Redline14]

We have a 2018 Newmar London Aire. We drive 12 to 15 thousand a year. Seems like the more we drive it, the more the coach likes it. Keep it maintained, and use it, that’s what they are meant for. Big 605 HP Cummins, Allison 4000, 12.5 Onan. They are great coaches, but Prevost are the top of the line. Buy one, and use it.

[@billyjohnson9166]

If you need my help call me it will be $100.00 per hour to talk to me. I still like you.though. Remember Andrew when things are going well and your making money that gives you the opportunity to save your money not to spend it then during difficult times you won't have a problem.

[@RVingwithAndrewSteele]

If it doesn't make dollars, it doesn't make sense. Time is money. Do you recommend I consult with everybody for free and never accomplish anything? Try getting hundreds of messages a day and see how well you can keep up.

[@billyjohnson9166]

@@RVingwithAndrewSteele You got me on that one.

[@unpilot1]

Country coach....you know you want one! My 2009 Allure is pre-def and solid as a rock.

[@ericl29]

We are really considering a CC Magna.. so your comment is very encouraging. Thank you.

[@billrowland4556]

Ditto on super c

[@casual257]

try a popup, may make a true camper out of you.

[@rustusandroid]

A motorhome that you cant drive.... interesting.

[@terryloveless9703]

Who did LazyDays buy in AZ?

[@johnclancy3898]

Great videos. What’s your take on Entegras?

[@brettster3331]

Andrew, an RV from a company like Prevost is kind of like a Lexus and is a lot more complex but also much better built and as far as problems go I can give you my car experience, we keep cars a long time and usually about 20 years, I had a Nissan maxima that was purchased new and over the years even though it was well serviced it had a ton of problems, fuel injector, new transmission, HVAC fan, three door window suspension units, and lots more. While we had this car we purchased a used Lexus ES a year older than the Nissan, and in the years we kept that car until it was 22, the only problems it ever had were the volume control knob on the stereo got loose we had that fixed and is was expensive and we had a power steering hose develop a leak, easy fix. So for us we replaced the Nissan with a new Toyota Highlander and eventually the Lexus with a used Lexus LS and both have been trouble free for many years now.

[@catalinstoica6919]

OKH HHHHMMM

[@stratman50th]

So this is just a question since it's on you, but you spent all that time in Oregon at Preimer RV. No interest in a Country Coach? No secret that I'm prejudiced on the subject, but it seems you could pick up a really nice CC for a decent price. Between their quality construction and the Dynamax chassis those coaches were made to last.

[@RVingwithAndrewSteele]

Country coach is an option as well!

[@marchalpeck470]

Replace it with a expedition vehicle

[@marchalpeck470]

There is one on ebay for around 300k

[@BruceBidinoff]

You should seriously look at the 2020 Newmar New Aire 35 footer with the 450 HP Cummins, special steering set-up, pure luxury in a sports-car Coach. REALLY CHECK IT OUT!

[@rsbolin]

Prevost Marathon or Liberty conversion that is pre-EGR and solid axles front.

[@catalinstoica6919]

OKH

[@campingalan]

Hi Andrew....well, it is definitely non standard times. I'd bet you could get low to mid retail on your rig + 50% of your interior upgrade. Normally, I'd say you're going to be eating your interior upgrade and the highest you could hope for is low retail. Though I hate to see you get rid of your Phaeton as you haven't really had it very long, it will be exciting to see what you do get. With your status and contacts, I'm sure you are going to stumble onto a Prevost that will be within your $$ comfort zone in no time. Best of luck in your search!!

[@midlifeprevost1182]

I can't wait to see what you choose next!!!!

[@brucemaxwell2877]

Renegade classic with a dd13 and cold weather package which is about r25 insulation great for summer also

[@hoofixrman]

If you can come up with 150ish...a nonslide H or rivet XL prevost is really the only choice. Id go for the H...

[@terrydavis1154]

I think you are totally wrong on the Pervost I think you would be alot better off with what you got!!

[@jfitzpatrick6108]

This video gave me an earache - yackity yack-yack. HIGH VERBIAGE; MININALLY INFORMATIVE.

[@cmad0032]

Your looking at these caliber coaches and concerned about cost of replacing belts? Ha

[@smacdiesel]

You need a Prevost 1996-2000 riveted non slide. I would prefer a Liberty, Marathon, Country Coach in that order. Polish and detail and have the nicest rig of that era. I would like that for myself but I have a family of four, so we went with a CC Magna.

[@deborahgarrison4349]

Geez, listening to this was a painful waste of time. I know, I did it to my self.

[@MrBillygoat]

After I did work myself on my Tiffin , my next one is a Super C, front engine , ease of access to engine , I would sell mine now, but lost our house to Hurricane Laura. Now my Phateon is our only home we got 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@crankychris2]

Andrew decided to go the same route, say goodbye to KOA Kampgrounds and hello to camping.