Why I bought the Canon EOS RP over the R7, and you should too.

The Canon EOS R7 is a great camera, but the Canon EOS RP has a number of key advantages overs the R7, and it's half the price.
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[@celinefitoussi]

Hi Mark, thanks for your video ! And do you still think that we can have more "cinematic" videos with the RP ? I'm going to make a decision and buy the RP :)

[@markwiemels]

I have a video to be released tomorrow with a lot more information, it should help you decide.

[@celinefitoussi]

@@markwiemels oh ok Mark thanks

[@EmtiMT]

I have an RP and my thoughts precisely when I looked into the R7 to compare….. Your systematic way to focus on key arguments one by one is very good and comprehensive. Thanks for this video.

[@markwiemels]

Thanks.

[@mika9127]

Your videos are really really good. Clear and on point!

[@MultiMetalmilitia666]

I have had the Canon Rp for over 2 years and love the images that come out of it. It is slow but does everything i need it to do. For my line of work. Just wish battery lasted longer.

[@ZibiKedziora]

Upgrade the software, this will improve battery life dramaticlly

[@amermeleitor]

You forgot the most important thing, at least for me, the IBIS. For handheld photo shooting with no stabilized lenses is a VERY big bonus. I use vintage and manual lenses and having IBIS is a heavy game changer. You can focus accurately even with long lenses

[@babymixswing2269]

There is an interesting thing. The IBIS of R5/R5 is not well designed. Because it is the first time. If you don't believe it, go find a video about the 16mmF2.8 lens. You will find that if it is R5/R6 and 16mm, then the picture is ugly and twitching. But RP+16mm, no problem. Although Canon has just upgraded the firmware to 1.6, it is only a little improvement, and the surrounding area of the screen is still twitching. Therefore, I think there is something wrong with the IBIS design of R5/R6.

[@v1ce21]

Great arguments! After seeing this video, I'm seriously considering buying the Canon RP for my photography purposes

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Does the RP agave a 30min record limit? That’s the only thing that steers me away because I record golf simulator videos and often need 30-45 mins record time in a single shoot

[@yusripp]

I have the RP, but now I also own the R7. For me I use both for shooting. As i need a wide angle and dynamic range of RP. But I need the speed and AF from the R7 for bird and aviation photo. For me as an hobbyist photographer, both body was less expensive and give me the best of both world. The other thing that R7 excel is to be able to handheld at more lower shutter speed due to it having IBIS. I've tried both with RF 28mm f2.8 and 50mm f1.8. The R7 give me a lot more keeper than the RP even though the R7 is already 1.6X cropping.

[@morerx3104]

Which one has better dynamic range?

[@jiaqingli5723]

@@morerx3104 rp still but r7 is sharper.

[@fz2576]

Thank you very much for your videos, I found your channel very informative and I love the way how you can pass your knowledge. I would like to ask you for some advice if possible. I am about to buy Canon camera, mostly for you tube work and mostly for cooking videos made always from tripod. My budget is not the biggest around 1000$ for the body or body plus kit lens, I watched your videos about canon R10 and Canon RP. I would really appreciate if you could advice me which camera would be better for that purpose and also taking in account buying some lenses later on. Thank you so much. All the best

[@jon112media]

Wonderful video! I've had my RP for two years and it's truly such a wonderful camera to take pictures with. I'm looking forward to adding the R7 to my bag so I get the best of both worlds! Also, I'm getting into video too haha. Would you think that c-log 3 would have more DR than the neutral RP profile?

[@markwiemels]

Yah, that’s the setup I have and it works well. I would agree that the c-log would have to give your more flexibility, and possibly more usable range in the video file, this can be a somewhat complicated subject, because this doesn’t mean the sensor actually has more dynamic range. Your great point is 100% correct, clog is a huge advantage for video.

[@Harry-tm2bt]

Excellent video, really enjoyed it. I think all of us in the Uk will have to make a decision to buy the rp, r5 or r6, maybe even change brands as canon has not supplied stocks of the r7 in this country, or even say if they ever will. Rumours are we will have to wait until next year.

[@markwiemels]

Yes, I am hearing that from others as well.

[@1EagleDave]

Thanks for the video i have both the rp and the R7 just got it and both are the (very best) in low light i do alot of night photography and wow both are just unreal i dont use more then very tops 400 iso or lower and always great with the r7 i have the 18-150 lens and it is very tiny but oh so powerful i haven't done video as of yet but will let you know thanks again. and I do love the RP as well it is so so under appreciated

[@markwiemels]

Thanks for sharing

[@Chris_Wolfgram]

I'm glad you cleared up the thing about "unless you are a Wildlife shooter" right away, as that is exactly what I am. I have an R5 already, but it's always in the 1.6 crop mode, for extra reach, which drops it to a measley 17mp's ☹️ I'm totally thinking about the R7 for 32mp's with the same reach as my R5 in crop mode.... And as a backup for my R5. Really need a backup when doing cross country birding trips.

[@markwiemels]

Yes, a lot of R5 owners are buying it for that, just be aware the focus is imperfect and not as good as the R5, check my lasted video on this.

[@joekugelblitz4144]

that´s exactly what I hoped for the R7 ... a second camera to my R6 and a " 1.6 teleconverter" with even more reach due to it´s 32mp sensor ... but canon (again) changed the button layout, made a fast camera with a small buffer, did not develop a battery grip ... why not take the body of the R5/6 an put an APSC sensor in it? Just like in the "good old days" of an EOS 5dMkIII and 7dMkII ... I cancelled my preorder for the R7 and started looking somewhere else.

[@Chris_Wolfgram]

@@joekugelblitz4144 even with the R5, I feel like Canon put 95% of their R&D for the battery grip into > "Lets make sure nobody can make a cheaper aftermarket copy".... Then, we can make a lightweight, chincy little grip, and charge a ridiculous amount for it ! :( Mine already failed once after 6 months, with no drops, slams, accidents, etc. Oh sure, they gave me a free replacement, but I have zero confidence that this one with last more than 6-12 months either :(

[@kenlowey1]

glad you put the R7 in a better light toward the end of your video, I was getting worried that i had ordered the wrong camera, I was told you can have an average camera and get great photos if you practice to be a better photographer

[@bettahalfofme6658]

Great video Mark, I know I'm not going to get an R7 if I was into video I would really consider that camera. I had already been looking at used RP's.

[@markwiemels]

The RP image quality is really good.

[@pilot_obet7815]

A good video that explains it all so beautifully. I’m a bit confused with the rapid fire cameras that Canon has pushed out- as in R3,R5,R6,R7,R10. I’ve been using the Canon M50 for two years and it is fine but wanted to go full frame. I’m just thinking of total change from Canon to Sony A7iv…..thoughts? Although having watched your video, the RP looks a good second camera and keeps me with Canon

[@markwiemels]

My biggest issue with Sony is that they are horrible to use. The menus system, screen, and general ergonomics are terrible. You get a lot of tech for the money, but the usability just isn't there. I own and have used a number of Sony cameras, and I have tried to make that move, but they are just horrible camera's to use, in my opinion.

[@pilot_obet7815]

@@markwiemels thank you for that…I’m looking at the RP and I believe there may be a new mark 2 out soon….so the rumours go.

[@yervantparnagian5999]

@@markwiemels and to mention the color reproduction of Sony lags far behind Canon and Sony. Having been a Nikon shooter and a Sony shooter, it took a lot more time to get my pictures(with the Sony) where they needed to be compared to Nikon's fabulous color reproduction. I'm considering trying Canon ML for the first time.

[@AshGiveTV]

Nice information and expansion

[@brucetracyphotography9879]

Great video. I have the EOS R and the R7 and they work beautifully together. I use th R7 for birds and sports. I use the R for landscapes and portraits. Each shines in the area they were designed to shine. The R7 eye tracking and the frames per second is top notch. The R takes beautiful full frame landscapes. If you can't have both, decide what you shoot the most and go with that camera.

[@markwiemels]

Great tip here, thanks.

[@Crimson_aries88]

Great tip

[@jasonswift7098]

What is the difference between the R and RP then?

[@kokhualow3419]

I have 3 RPs for my organization. We have many crop sensor cameras. When compared with crop sensor cameras, the images are miles better and way sharper especially at high ISO. In fact I can acceptable images even at ISO 8000. For the crop cameras, it cannot survive beyond ISO3200. So we can take pictures without flash indoor and yet it looks fantastic.

[@markwiemels]

Great to hear!

[@tyrelanderson8918]

My biggest thing is, the RP does not record 4k 60 at all, no IBIS, and no CLog. The R7 from what I have seen very much compares with the RP. As a hybrid shooter R7 is the better buy hands down. Stills RP for sure, awesome video.

[@GrantMcWilliams]

I think there's a place for the EOS RP but it loses virtually every battle with the R7 except for cost and dynamic range (and not by a lot on the DR). Most every comparison outside of those two and the R7 smokes the RP by a large margin. The RP is really only good for when you have a lot of time to make a decision to take a still photo. It's so slow that you can't take any sort of action shots (and by action I mean anything moving). I'm not an action photographer but I have birds outside my office window that land on the vines. To get a shot with them flying I just bump my M6II (or R7 if I had one) up to 14fps, focus and rattle off a second of shots then grab the best one and go back to work. At 5 fps (4 with AF!) the RP will miss getting the wings in the right spot, I know because I have some slower cameras and I spend a lot longer trying to get the shot even at 9fps of my M6I. For video the RP can't compare to other full frame cameras because of the massive crop but the R7 already has a 4K 1.6 crop so the frame of view is pretty comparable however, and this is a big however the RP loses it's DPAF in 4K mode. This means you really have an EOS M3 at that point and anyone who's owned any of those contrast detect AF cameras know the 4K video is mostly unusable so it should be considered a 1080p video camera which maintains DPAF. I don't remember if the RP is pixel/line binned but that would also be important to know. This means the RP's main strength is still photography where dynamic range is important. That's really it's main strength and even then it's not much of one. The R7 is just superior in every way - DPAF II, full non-pixel binned 4K, 3-6 times faster burst mode, IBIS etc. it's just not a comparison. I don't think the RP is a lump of coal but people should know what they're getting. In most cases the R10 probably competes better with the RP than the R7. The RP would still win on dynamic range by a bit (maybe) but lose on most everything else, just by a smaller margin. I haven't compared the RP and the R10 but that may be a more interesting and closer race. Oh, one afterthought that would be an advantage of the RP - wide angle. Trying to get decent wide angle lenses for a crop sensor is always a struggle. But we're talking anything wider than 24 mm (FF). Above 24mm and there's no real difference, you just do the math and buy the right lens (50mm instead of 85mm etc).

[@GrantMcWilliams]

I will add a comment to my own comment. I wasn't sure there was dynamic range information available for the R7 yet but I found some. Here's a comparison of the RP and the R7. Up to 1000 ISO the R7 is better, at the lowest ISO it's double that of the RP (maybe, I suspect the test). At 1000 it's roughly equal. At 51,000 ISO the RP has about a 10-12% advantage. Not significant. It's important to note that if you have an R7 at 12,000 ISO you have exactly the same dynamic range as the RP at 24,000. I don't know of any one that runs their ISO that high but if you want the same dynamic range of the FF sensor just half the ISO and carry on or stay under 1000 ISO. www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%20R7

[@andrewdoeshair]

If a shallow DOF is an important factor you’ll get way more of it for way cheaper with the RP… Example, a Viltrox 85mm F1.8 is $400 but to match that depth of field and field of view using a crop sensor you’d need a 50mm F1.2 lens, we’re talking $1,300 for EF or $2,200 for RF. Or a $999 EF 135mm F2 on the RP looks roughly like an 85mm F1.2 ($2,000+) would on a crop sensor. Slap the 50 or 85 F1.2, or sigma’s 105mm F1.4 Art on the RP and you’ll get looks that the crop sensor can’t replicate at all. So for something like portraiture the R7 can’t compete.

[@GrantMcWilliams]

@@andrewdoeshair Right, there are some cases where DOF is *harder* to do with a crop sensor mainly because of the lenses that companies choose to make since their target so far with RF mount has been full frame. I don't think that a comparison between a budget Viltrox 85/f1.8 and a Canon 50mm/f1.2 is really fair though. You could put an EF Samyang 85 f/1.4 on the R7 for $600 and it would give you a pretty similar image to the $999 EF 135. It all depends on what is available and in what focal lengths. The real advantage to full frame is that shallow DOF is *easier*. Most anything that can be done on FF can be done on a crop sensor if the lens is available until you get to really wide angle or really fast FF lenses. The reality though is that F/1.2 isn't very practical on a FF sensor as the depth of field is just too narrow. Not many people really want the end of a model's eye lashes in focus when her eye isn't. I find myself going with about f/2 on FF for nice pleasing DOF or f/1.4 on crop sensors. For wide angle and extreme depth of field I'd go FF without hesitation. For the best dynamic range I'd go with (new) FF sensors. The sensor in the RP does not have better dynamic range in a studio setting which is the RPs strength. It does have marginally better dynamic range at higher ISOs though. Most other things the crop sensor is perfectly fine at and for longer focal lengths the crop sensor may have price and size advantages.

[@markwiemels]

Some good info in this thread, thanks for sharing.

[@future62]

@@andrewdoeshair with EF glass you can use a speed booster adapter to get most of the DoF back. Not perfect but possible. If you absolutely need every last drop of shallow DoF then yea go FF. But I'd wager you would need to look at photos side by side to see the difference in 1 stop of DoF. I def do. It's not that big of a deal. At least not to sacrifice literally every other aspect of the camera, at least IMO. I currently shoot FF and had an EOS R for 2 years but in the RF lineup the R7 is the only camera I'd consider. If the lens situation improves enough I might switch again.

[@JayFingers]

I have the RP, which I love. But since I’m much more video focused, the R7 is very attractive to me. I’m thinking of picking one up.

[@ChicoFilmz4is]

R7 is the way to go!

[@TeluguNavvulu]

I am planning to to buy RP. Do you think is this good for taking indoor videos also with all background blur, slow motion etc. in Best Buy they selling with default lens RF24-105 F4-7.1 IS STM lens. Will that be good lens for indoor videography and photography OR you suggest any better lens ? please suggest.

[@jujus_reviews]

I used the RP before moving to the R3. Never had an issue really. Once you know how to expose your photos you shouldn’t have an issue. I used it for years. Loved it. Jared the battery life and 1 card slot.

[@HeadlessChickenTO]

Before the R7, I was in line awaiting the EOS R. I didn't go with the RP because it had the same limitations as the camera I was running at the time, thr M50. Battery life and the severe crop factor in 4k video that went to contrast based AF. I stuck with APS-C because I had mainly APS-C lenses. But if I do start picking up full frame RF glass, I may look into whatever the R replacement is. If it has similar specs, just with some updated tech then I may pick that up and run that with my R7. I'm playing around with wildlife photography on my R7.

[@harrison00xXx]

Same here, i began with wildlife some months ago and realized fast: The RP sucks for it. I have now the R7 as dedicated wildlife camera.... its AWESOME, but i will keep the RP for sure. I was also for over 10 years into Canon APS-C, but i always bought higher quality EF glass which the best of it is still in my hands (like 16-35 2.8, 70-200 2.8, 24-105, all L lenses)... Its really enjoying to have a "entry level" Full Frame like the RP with proper glass for it and as backup/wildlife body the R7. In my opinion a much better decision than the R6 or R5 I tried to replace the RP with a R6 for everything.... nope its too heavy and big, performs not as good as expected and so not even close to worth the money. If i would have gone for a single camera.... then the R5 but its much too expensive anyways (and still limited in some things like the R6 as well.. no pre burst for example which is handy for wildlife) In so many things i can take much more advantage over the RP+R7 than i could with R6 OR R5 Just yesterday at a pond. The ducks came much too close, literally to me so i just picked the RP with the telezoom instead of the R7 with the supertele (which was anyways for much too tight, 1280mm is a very hard to handheld hell!)

[@harrison00xXx]

Just the impressive performance increases of the full frame glasses on full frame doesnt allow me to sell the RP. Especially the 16-35mm doesnt make sense without full frame, but also other lenses like the 70-200 or basically ALL primes like 50mm 1.8 are much more universal than on a crop sensor Full frame for the photographers, APS-C/ or even Micro 4 loser for videographers/wildlife (Until Sony deliver a more affordable full frame package)

[@sumdood2035]

Do ef/ef-s lenses work properly on the full frame sensor (with an adapter)?

[@rishigill4360]

Hi Mark, I have seen several of your videos and they are very useful. I am more into You-tube videos and content creation and not much into photography. I have selected few cameras - Canon EOS RP, EOS R10, M5O - 2 AND M6 - 2. If you can advise that out of these which one would be a better option in case of video making (Content creation) for You - tube. One thing that is kind of my concern is EF - M lenses. But in case of RP and R10, several options are available. Looking forward to hear from you. Thanks RG.

[@markwiemels]

I would go with the R10, but there is a camera due to be release by canon soon that will likely be a budget RF camera specificity targeted at KZbinrs and video creators. If you can wait, I would wait and see what that camera is all about.

[@robindiscovering]

I shot a video entirely on an eos rp (oke and a drone). I'm not a pro, far from it, and I have to learn a lot still but you can see for yourself if you like the rp's footage or not. Ungraded . kzbin.info/www/bejne/enLKe5KIe9Ojpc0 .

[@TheHockey1980]

Do a video comparing the RP vs R8! I’m trying to decide between the two!

[@DanT10]

The R7 is a race car. Compared to the RP which is more of a SUV. The RP is a great camera. But if you need speed then the R7/R5 is where you go.

[@markwiemels]

Fair comments.

[@JonnatonNevius]

I've had the RP since 2021 when I upgraded from the Rebel T5 (big upgrade) - I still love it just as much as the day I bought it. When this one kicks, I'll buy whatever the equivalent replacement is down the road

[@-grey]

I've seen a bunch of tests which show the DR and ISO performance of the RP not being much better than the M6, so I don't know if this is a win by default for the FF RP.

[@markwiemels]

In my testing the high ISO noise is better in the RP, without being mind-blowingly better. The Dynamic rang has been significantly better in the RP, at least at higher ISO levels, which it what I was testing. I should test them both a base ISO as well.

[@sharkpyro93]

i managed to get a bundle of 3 EF USM (gold ring) prime lenses (28 f1.8, 50 f1.4, 100 f2) in very good condition with the original packaging and stuff for cheap, i have an old rebel t3i (600D) and im not sure if the RP is still worth it as today, what do you think?

[@auxmike718]

Will the RF mount “L” lenses produce good results on the R7?

[@ralfhedin]

One of your best, tnx a million!

[@markwiemels]

You are most welcome.

[@theteju]

Your Video got me thinking again. Almost pulled trigger on R7. What are your thoughts for R6?

[@markwiemels]

R6 is great for video, but the megapixel count is a little low for photo, in my opinion.

[@jamescps8799]

What lens should I buy for RP ? Thanks.

[@JaredHoyman]

Completely agree! For me I have the R7 and R6 and the R7 compliments my R6. The R6 is amazing on so many levels, but the R7 video features totally blow the R6 out of the water. I did comparisons on my channel. Keep up the good work!

[@markwiemels]

Oh, hey, yes been watching your R7 stuff! really good work.

[@JaredHoyman]

@@markwiemels I appreciate it! I usually don't dive too much into one camera, but this is my first APS-C since the Canon T2i from 2010 and I am overly impressed how far APS-C's have come in the last decade. I ended up picking up the Tascam XLR adapter that connects directly through the R7 Electronic Hotshoe and again...completely blown away. I'll probably get some content out on that too.

[@markwiemels]

@@JaredHoyman Yes, I saw that setup in one of your thumbs or videos, can't recall which. I love the quick fire comparisons you are doing, super useful.

[@user-gk7ku6ik5b]

Mark I never felt making the wrong choice following your gear & camera suggestions, and I`m gonna do the same for this time.

[@markwiemels]

So nice to hear, good luck.

[@armughanaslam9132]

@@markwiemels same. I didn't even know about RP (new to photography), i was confused between s5 and fuji xs-10. thanks as always

[@Drmikekuna]

In the early 2000s (2007?) I remembered seeing a photo shot with a Nikon D200 (APS-C, 10 MP) in National Geographic. I thought it was stunning. So stunning that later, I bought a D300, my principal camera, for years. I love the advances cameras have gained; however, good photos are taken by good photographers, not cameras. That said, the right camera for the job makes a photographer's work easier. FF sensors are great at giving you a blurred background, and tiny 1" sensors are fantastic for giving you zoom power in a tiny package. I now have many cameras, including a 6D Mark II. when that camera came out, reviewers complained about its dynamic range. However, it was better than the 5D Mark III, which was praised by the same influencers. When I recently took graduation portraits of my son, I used a FF camera, but when I was in his school's arena for the graduation ceremony, I used an old Sony RX10 with a 1" sensor (due to the size of the camera). I was happy with both sets of images.

[@swiftdetecting]

would RP be better now than the 5dmk3 ask as may sell 5dmk3 and which one be better in low light high iso and be good for action shots with good buffer too also do you know the 4k limit and if u can do hdmi 4k output as u cannot do this with the 5dmk4 which looked good if it was possible to get rid of the recording limit

[@markwiemels]

I have not used the 5d cameras, so I don't really have any insight.

[@richmck007]

Thanks for showing this. I am fed up with carrying around heavy gear with my 6d ii and want to invest in a newer Canon but confused with which to get and a trade in for my gear. I have all the expensive L lens so weight is my problem since hurting my back. What would you advise over a 6d ii I do festivals, low light and point and shoot portrait for schools but i am not a pro. Just an avid fan Great clear explanation. Thank you.

[@adrianvanleeuwen]

Personally I would recommend an RP or R if one of those fits your budget and you can get the R to EF adapter for your lenses.

[@richmck007]

@@adrianvanleeuwen Budget is not an issue here, weight is! So I will study the two you mentioned. Many thanks indeed for replying. Keep those videos coming. I’ll be watching!

[@markwiemels]

I have a more detailed video coming. RP has the 6d ii sensor in it, and is way lighter.

[@clifftoncallicott6572]

I have a sl2 just for family function pictures and some portraits from time to time. I would like to get the R7 but I was really looking at the RP as well.

[@markwiemels]

I prefer the RP for photos like this, but both are very good.

[@maneeshnaganand757]

any thoughts on the Lumix S5/ It is also a full frame and almost the same price as an R7. Would be using EF to L mount converter.

[@markwiemels]

It looks like an amazing camera, it would be hard to beat for the money. Video autofocus tends to be unreliable, but that would be my only issue with it.

[@adrianvanleeuwen]

I totally agree while the R7 is great for action and wildlife and 4K, but for general portrait and landscape full frame sensors will always be better for less noise in low light and a cleaner detailed image again in low light. And the lens also makes a difference. I had considered the RP however for a little more, I picked up the Nikon Z5 also a good camera with FF sensor. For those who prefer Canon, RP is a great choice on modest budget.

[@markwiemels]

Yea, the Z5 is a bargain, have been considering one myself.

[@adrianvanleeuwen]

@@markwiemels Yes. The Z5 in Canada was $1000. below the z6ii body here.

[@bejovijay9263]

Which other lens should we get along with default one Rf 24-105 mm if we are into portraits, street, nightlife. Please suggest

[@markwiemels]

I think the 50mm f1.8 is a great budget place to start for portrait, 35mm f1.8 is better for street and nightlife.

[@Shawn-nd6ew]

Cool : ) hey Mark can you do some side by side images you take with the new RP and the M6 love to look at them Thanks

[@markwiemels]

I have been playing with that, I will see what I can do.

[@Shawn-nd6ew]

@@markwiemels : ) TY

[@Kreemerz]

So the RP can't handle any action or sports photos? I have a d7000. Is it at least better than that one?

[@markwiemels]

Probably not, it take sa lot of processing power to track sports in a mirroless camera, and this one just doesn't have the power.

[@harrison00xXx]

I changed my mind btw - i sold the EOS RP, as much i liked fullframe, i will enter the full frame game with the EOS R5 Mk2 2nd hand in many years. But also only because i do more video and for basic landscape and family stuff im also fine with the R7 and a 17-55 2.8 and 10-20, otherwise im doing only wildlife anymore where i really need the proper gear. Also, i would consider the Meike Adapter with filter insert, 100$ more than the regular EF RF adapter but you get a V-ND and clear insert (100$ cost alone a clear insert at canon!). Especially on the EOS RP i enjoyed the filter adapter a lot when using mainly EF glass.

[@katanakatana9002]

I am thinking between R10 and RP for pet photography indoor and outdoor. I have a limited budget so would like to get a decent camera with a good prime lens 24-105 F4L. Which one will suit me best?

[@markwiemels]

The R10 is a better choice, for the animal autofocus.

[@KevinNordstrom]

I currently shoot wildlife, nature, and some landscape with the RP and sigma 150-600 and can't wait to get rid of it. My keeper rate is about 50%. Horrible focus breathing, and pulsing to the point I just manual focus, 5 fps and miss half bird and waterfowl shots in action... I'm hoping to get an R7 or R5 within the next few months along with the 100-500 I would recommend the RP to someone who only has a budget of $1,000 for an entire rig. Or just strictly landscape, portrait stills. But even at that price point, once you add a lens, you're at 1,500 if you use the RF to EF adapter, and a used EF lens or 3rd party. I'd just probably pick up a used m6mk2 that is cheaper, faster, lighter, and has dpaf in 4k with more megapixels for cropping and for landscape, along with the sigma 1.4 trio. If you're doing strictly wildlife.....stay away from the RP

[@markwiemels]

Just a heads up, the R7 has issues with autofocus, especially for wildlife, the R5 and 6 are superior. R7 has front an back focusing issues, misses a lot.

[@DevChow]

Incredibly hard choice for me since I do shoot event and portrait gigs on the side which more than often concerts are in very bad lit rooms so full frame is a huge win, as well as not having a 1.6x zoom. R7 is still very much favorable to me though because I like the overall updates in firmware, feel, and 4k video which I’ve been getting into videography more often on a steadicam. Honestly I feel like the better option for me is to get an R5 but no way I can afford that right now

[@RieseRock]

Which would you recommend for indoor sports. I have problems getting enough light for basketball/volleyball games.

[@markwiemels]

You probably need and f2.8 zoom lens, they tend to be pretty expensive.

[@RieseRock]

@@markwiemels Thanks! Subscribed!

[@SGPyrotestDK]

would you recommend the RP for filming fireworks or do you have another camera that does this better. It has to be able to film in 4k :)

[@markwiemels]

In 4k mode and using manual focus it would be good.

[@SGPyrotestDK]

@@markwiemels okay nice, I have also been looking at the 90D, but I dont know which one is better. The full frame from the RP is speaking more to me, but I want the best quality the camera can give me. And thanks for the first reply and for an awesome and helpful video :)

[@carolynvines2027]

Sounds great; but is the RP not going to perform well for action and wildlife photography?

[@markwiemels]

It still can be used for that, but it would not be my first choice. So if it's mostly other stuff, with a little sports and wildlife, I would still consider it.

[@lauchos3]

What about the K&F mount adapters. What is your opinion.? many thanks

[@markwiemels]

Yes, they are great and I have a number of them. They are manual adapters, as in they don’t have autofocus contacts, but for my vintage lenses I use K&F adapters.

[@HeroShotz]

I sold my rp based on focus speed when I do events. Rp was awesome and I had it from day one but as soon as I could get an r7 I went for it lol.

[@markwiemels]

R7 is an awesome camera, it you need quick autofocus the RP is not the right camera. That's probably the RP's worst feature.

[@markshirley01]

AF speed and reliability has become paramount to me, getting the image or clip as fast as possible is priceless to me, far more than dynamic range or resolution - I get paid for getting those clips imsges so AF no 1 for me, thats why Im probably moving from a D750 to a R7.

[@ebinrock]

If they do a RP Mk II, I want to see the physical shutter close down upon shutoff so you can change lenses w/o dust getting on the sensor, like the R model and others that have followed.

[@markwiemels]

Yes, please Canon!

[@GoandLove]

Would love to see a video on what a m50 user should upgrade to! I’ve been using the m50 with the sigma lenses for the past 3 years and love it! But curious what the natural upgrade might be when the time comes….

[@bentaylor4948]

Yeh same one been using mine for 1.5 years now and wanting to progress into more video stuff. Was looking at canon R but it’s a huge investment so will have to wait

[@hadenfirlej97]

Canon m6 mark ii

[@mademyday100]

For photography...this video kinda answers that. For video - probably a different brand, maybe a sony a6400 (Canons good video cameras are $$$)

[@GoandLove]

@@mademyday100 yea, for video. I imagine anyone with a M50 basically has it for video, thanks!!

[@mademyday100]

@@GoandLove m50 is limited in video compared to other brands (30min limit, poor 4k options, battery life etc.) But the cost outweighs everything...m50 is an amazing all rounder. Love mine, probably wont sell it yet

[@hasifzul]

GOODJOB! Good explanation from this channel!!!!!!!

[@davidrodgers5534]

While I don't think you're wrong, necessarily, the sensors in the R7 and R10 actually have more dynamic range than the RP so I think that for general beginners that will tend to screw up exposure more often they would probably be better, by a stop or two than the RP sensor maybe?

[@davidrodgers5534]

and to be clear I LOVE the RP ... just thinking out loud.

[@markwiemels]

I ended up clarifying some of this in a follow up video.

[@jeromecabrera9127]

I do Landscape and enjoying HDR mode on my RP so im not so bothered about the blownout skies anymore with that feature, and for portraits? Oh man, you can't go wrong with full frame It'l give you nice and good result and it has high Dynamic range than my previous crop sensor.

[@markwiemels]

That's a good tip! Thanks.

[@coppensbram]

Nice video! But… I went with the R7 instead 😊 especially since I mostly do video. I’ll go fullframe next, when Canon updates the R6 to mk2. And I’ll already have the full frame lenses by then!

[@mrgrinch]

I didn't wat that 29:59 record limit.

[@markwiemels]

I would go R7 for video too.

[@orion_cinema]

you loose

[@orion_cinema]

your loss

[@ebinrock]

What I'd like to see in the R6 Mk II is the intelligent shoe for the Tascam XLR unit.

[@gozec6250]

@markwiemels would you recommend RP for product photography will it be more better than R7 or R10?

[@markwiemels]

I would go with the RP for sure.

[@gozec6250]

@@markwiemels thank you for your feedback.. it's for jewellery pics so will invest in good macro lens any recommendations?

[@markwiemels]

@@gozec6250 yes, 100mm macro.

[@Savage1776_]

I had the Canon EOS R and the autofocus is horrendous to say the least. I recently bought the R5 about a year ago and absolutely love it I was looking at getting the R7 as I currently have a 90d for wildlife as well. My wife now wants to start getting into photography so I wanted to buy her a camera so she don't have to change my settings all the time. Plus a mirrorless would be easier for her to learn on. I don't know if I should waste $900 on an RP because the battery life is crap the autofocus is crap and five frames per second is crap and we do a lot of Wildlife and she's going to struggle trying to get birds in flight. I just don't know definitely thinking about it right now

[@markwiemels]

For sure you should go for the R7 over the RP.

[@IndigoEyePhotography]

Interesting that you specify dynamic range as an advantage when DxOMark lists the RP's sensor as inferior to that of even the older EOS 80D. I tend to shoot a lot of high dynamic range for my landscapes, so I want a camera that can squeeze in more highlights and shadows at base ISO (no bracketing on a tripod). The price of the EOS RP was really appealing to me, but the idea of it having lower dynamic range than an APS-C sensor discouraged me.

[@markwiemels]

I have a follow up video to this one on the channel. The R7 and RP have similar dynamic range.

[@chingymofo1]

Funnily enough I've been watching you for a while now because I had the M50 and just last week I sold the M50 and bought the RP. I am in love with the RP! DOF, AF (eye tracking in servo) and low light performance really solidified my choice with the RP and not to mention getting my foot in the door for the RF glass. Been shooting a lot in the past week and I am 100% happy with my purchase! Also since you talk a heap about Viltrox, you should grab their 85mm 1.8 RF, copped it on Friday and used it for this whole weekend and I cannot complain about anything. The RP and the Viltrox 85 is great value for a novice like me, especially for street, car and portraits. The R7 was definitely in my consideration, but I wanted a full frame camera and I'm glad I did! In saying that, I will be upgrading to the R6 sooner or later and I may nab an R7 as a secondary camera and retire the RP unless something else from Canon comes out that catches my eye.

[@markwiemels]

Thanks for sharing your insight, yes, I bought the RP very much with that lens in mind. I’m so glad it’s working so well for you.

[@chingymofo1]

@@markwiemels well at least I won't completely abandon your channel now! Thanks for all your M50 videos, kenn to see what you have in mind for the RP!

[@harrison00xXx]

How about the image quality in the corners (especially CA!) at F2.8? (the Viltrox 85mm) Chromatic Abberation is a huge problem when used for astrophotography. Missing sharpness in the corners too, but they are not as bad or annoying. This lens is affordable, but im not sure if it really fits the needs of astrophotography, what i saw at least at F1.8 it "sucks" for it for sure. Funny how my super old, "cheap" 50mm 2.8 Macro lens from sigma just goes strong in AP, even with F2.8 wide open... completely flat, barely vignetting, super sharp (sharper than my 50mm F1.4 at F2.8 and MUCH better IQ in corners) Im thinking about exactly this lens for my RP - too often i wanted to make widefield images of the night sky but 16 and 50mm are not enough, in fact i would even need a 20-30mm lens too, but i realized after years on 16 and 50mm (lenses) and 750-2000mm (mirror telescopes) around 85mm would be PERFECT for most bigger stuff (like complete orion constellation which i had to make a very time consuming, but at least hi res mosaic with 750mm...) I would have gone for a small telescope.... but except super cheap (not full frame, ofc....) finder scopes there are NO telescopes out there with less than 300mm around.

[@chingymofo1]

@@harrison00xXx so far I find the corners not too bad to work with, however I haven’t done Astro so I couldn’t tell you if it’s fine for that!

[@mandofan2616]

If you ever do a wedding or conference video with RP, always remember to politely ask the speakers who you are recording to just wait a few seconds, while you change the battery multiple times.

[@Kkkk-yz7dl]

For wedding photographer,photo sessions and short clips,it is a good choice??

[@markwiemels]

I think so, but the EOS R would be better.

[@annaharkusha5179]

I'm a newbie, I've been using canon 77d for years. the war in my country showed that you need to do what you like. I definitely need to improve the camera. I want to buy sony a7iii, but not a new one, I watched a lot of videos and information, maybe someone will give me advice on which camera is better to buy, sony a7iii or canon RP

[@markwiemels]

The Sony is better in every technical way, better high ISO, better dynamic range, better video specs. The are only 2 things the RP is better at are, better natural colors and skin tones, and better ergonomics. The ergonomics and menu system on the Sony is horrible, almost unimaginably bad. I would try to go into a store and play with an A7iii for 15-20 minutes, then make up your mind.

[@annaharkusha5179]

@@markwiemels thank you!

[@johnmodiba7856]

Hi John Modiba SA. I am a general potrait photograper .How is the eye focus of the Canon Rp on its own. I understand it does not compare to the R7.your comment.

[@markwiemels]

I would suggest that the R7 is faster, but accuracy is the same for portrait work. I would take the RP for portraits.

[@set3777]

From the Canon 2Q22 Financial Report: "Unit sales of mirrorless cameras were above those of the same period of the previous year due to strong demand for the full-frame mirrorless cameras including the EOS R5 and EOS R6 and the favorable reviews of the new EOS R7." Only R5, R6 and R7 are specially mentioned. RP is 40% discounted in Amazon to clear stagnant stock? Meanwhile many people are still waiting for the delivery of their EOS R7.

[@markwiemels]

Good insight, this is really more about marketing than image quality. Specs on the RP are terrible, but the photo image quality is about as good as you can get at the current price.

[@adityakulkarni6443]

which is better for travel and nature photography rp or r10...and rp is weather sealed?

[@markwiemels]

Probably the r10, and yes the rp is weather sealed.

[@adityakulkarni6443]

Thanx🙏

[@okaro6595]

As long as the background is far enough the sensor size is irrelevant to the blur. The size of the blur on the focal plane is same as the size of the aperture.

[@markwiemels]

Distance from subject plays a big role in the background blur, as does focal length. The closer to the subject, the more blur, the longer the focal length, the more bur, this is the "blur" advantage you get from the wider filed of view of full frame.

[@chipmunkhunt]

Are you able to compare the R7 to the older Eos R?

[@markwiemels]

If I get my hands on one I will.

[@MSaFuVaN64]

Great video brother

[@markwiemels]

Thanks.

[@PunjabiGymBeats]

You really speak professionally, for pros specs really dont matter much only final image matters as well as the reliability. I have the Z6 and D700 12mp and for me it produce better image than Z6, i am thinking to sell my Z6 and buy an RP for some vlog and stills for wedding photography. We mostly use flash so we dont go more than 1600 ISO. I think its better choice than Eos R or R6 i would rather spend extra money on lenses.

[@markwiemels]

I love the look of that Z6, love the colors too, I hope to try one some day.

[@PunjabiGymBeats]

@@markwiemels i just bought Canon Eos R 2 days ago and i am loving it so far Image quality is superior than Z6 for sure and colors and superb. It is expensive but worth every penny.

[@markwiemels]

@@PunjabiGymBeats Good information! Thanks for sharing that. Are you shooting jpg or editing raw files?

[@PunjabiGymBeats]

@@markwiemels Jpg I shoot tons of photos so canon files requires less post process and make u better photographer to take perfect picture each time in camera.

[@harrison00xXx]

Also, considering the fact Canon tend to make slower apertures... the better high ISO handling is again a HUGE bonus point for the RP. I nearly though of selling my RP and get a 100-500L (so 160-800mm) and R7. But F7.1, a crop sensor with poor low light capabilities, just doesnt seem like a usable combination at all especially not for the high price of R7 and 100-500L. Since i had the RP already and i just wanted a supertele focal range and "usable" autofocus, the much cheaper option (with better results!) was just a "poor mans" RF 800 F11 STM lens for the RP. Very awesome lens, got it for 750€ 2nd hand with guarantee left and hood+ UV filter. When i was hiking etc... i often or always had travel or bigger binoculars with me, with the RF 800 i have literally a superb (mono)cular and i can capture wildlife video/images. Very awesome! when it gets darker, you can even watch the fields, trees etc with the slightly "night vision" capabilities of the RPs live view, despite F11 the screen or viewfinder is still a lot brighter and with more contrast than scene for real (in fact even low light video with RF 800 F11 work very well for me, despite the fact that some 30 fps videos are running in darkness at 8fps but still A LOT BETTER than anything i had before.) I mean, i really would love any 600mm F4 or 800mm F5,6 supertele, but they are too expensive and too heavy. Plus... i dont enjoy the "typical" hiding and waiting in wildlife photography which this 3-6kg monsters are made for, i just enjoy walking around, enjoying the nature and looking for anything to capture!

[@iTristendo]

Would you say the RP is still very useable in 2022?

[@harrison00xXx]

@@iTristendo Yes, absolutely! If you dont mind 4K video and wildlife much, its a pretty good and compact allrounder. I have actually the RP, R6 and R7. (The R6 was a mistake, i tried to replace the RP, now i have to sell it) I am using my RP still as daily/allrounder camera and with basically most of my lenses. The R7 i will keep as dedicated wildlife/video camera. Its definately hard to justify 2 bodies, but the advantages are also very interesting (With RP im doing milky way shots/night landscape with 1.8 and 2.8 prime lenses and the R7 is running automated as imaging camera on the telescope) If i would want EVERYTHING i need in one camera (astrophotography on telescope or standalone with any prime lens, wildlife, regular photography/landscape, family etc,..) i would need to go for the R5, or "cheap out" with the R6. But the R6, especially the 20 MP uncropped didnt impress me at all in wildlife. Under very good light conditions the RP make even sharper images than the R6 which is a shame! I just found out, the R7, 6, 5, all of them are for basic photographing, especially with small/light primes for my taste too heavy and big, so i need to keep the RP anyways, just to make use of the 16-35mm 2.8 full frame lens (which would be unacceptable 28-56mm on R7)

[@mademyday100]

I found this channel when i first bought my m50 and it has been invaluable to me...2 days ago, I upgraded to the Canon RP. Like dude, get out of my brain haha.

[@markwiemels]

Great to hear! Enjoy.

[@APurpleSpy]

Fair warning. Beware 3rd party RF EF adapters. I bought one to save 50 bucks and after 2 days of shooting and lens changes i took a closer look inside my sensor area. They were using a much softer metal and the lens changes had been shaving off metal flakes into my sensor area. Thankfully i cleaned it out got away without damage, but i recommend spending an extra 50 bucks off the bat for the official adapter to save yourself the headache.

[@markwiemels]

I have a video coming out on that, I have bought a number of them and identified ones you shouldn’t buy. The good ones are every bit as good as genuine.

[@KS_Films019]

Is canon RP is a good option over R10 or r10 is better than RP?

[@markwiemels]

Really depends on your use. For portrait, people, and landscape, I would go with the RP, for sports, wildlife, and any video, would go with the R10

[@tomdressel5713]

I watched the video even though you dismissed me in the beginning. 😁 I just got an R7 but have considered the RP in the past. Over the years I've shot with full frame and APS-C sized sensors, so I have both EF and EF-S lenses. I have an aging 5DII that I was considering replacing with another full frame camera. But the R5 and R6 did not appeal to me because of their cost. So when the R7 was announced, I decided that it could replace my 77D. I like shooting car racing and air shows, so this camera will work well for me. And with the EF-S lenses that I have, I will be able to use the camera for travel and general use as well. So far I love the R7, but I still may be tempted to get an RP down the line for the full frame advantages that you mentioned. Thanks for the great info.

[@markwiemels]

They are body great, I have them both now.

[@AashutoshSahu]

Hey, Mark! I saw your viral video titled (My 16 Best EF-M Lenses for the Canon M50 and Canon M6 Mark II) which has (201K) views. I liked this video a lot, after that I watched a lot of your videos and I think your video is addictive. But today while I was browsing your KZbin channel a couple of exciting ideas came to mind which can help you to go viral and that I wanna discuss with you:💙

[@AashutoshSahu]

You are very talented in your profession, but I'm sad cuz you are not getting the praise you deserve, I can see your talent. But why can't people see🙃

[@markwiemels]

So kind of you to say. I don’t think there is any magic solution.

[@richardmg9]

I kind of thought that the IBIS on the R7 would make it at least as good in low light as the RP

[@dario0605]

Lens and aparture is making Dof, not the sensor size. On the cropped sensor image will be cropped (like it's taken with "longer lens") but the dof will be the same 😉

[@markwiemels]

Yes, this is correct, I don’t mention DOF in this video.

[@dario0605]

@@markwiemels you do. At 1:29

[@markwiemels]

@@dario0605 sorry, yes, you are correct, wider filed of view means that you will get closer to the subject, which gives a more blurry background.

[@gerhardbotha7336]

I bought a screw driver in stead of a hammer and here is why I think you should too... If you want reach, get an R7. Its like shooting with an 81MP FF sensor and then cropping by a factor of 1.6 in the middle of the frame. If you want a wider field of view, get a R5/R6/RP...

[@markwiemels]

I’m going to make the screwdriver video next.

[@cutsandcodas]

I have the RP and the R7, and I question the idea that that the RP has better dynamic range. The RP can still take great photos, and it's maybe a stop better than the R7 with high ISO. I actually prefer the lens performance on the R7, since it crops the edges and corners. The RP is no slouch, and it deserves to remembered for affordable full frame, but the R7 actually performs better overall.

[@tender.branson]

Is it fair to compare APS-C to full-frame? I mean, R7 is basically a top-tier Canon APS-C camera, while RP is meh full-frame.

[@aylingpaul]

Hi,i have the two of them and yes the RP have better quality pictures, to get the same results on the RP i use the 24-105 RF f4 and on the R7 i use my Sigma 18-35 f1.8 and like that i have the same result but R7 shines in Autofocus fast camera you feel it in your hands and video e better technology but the RP better images Bokeh ..

[@rodriguetoglo]

You mentioned that the rp has significantly better dynamic range than the r7. I don't really agree with that, I think that statement is biased. They both have 14bit raw in photo and the r7 smokes the rp with clog 3 and 10bit color detph on top of having a far better processor. So... How exactly is the rp better than the r7? Plus there a viltrox speed booster available for the rf mount for those who want the full frame look. I think the rest of the video is great though, I Completely get the point, some people would still prefer the rp. But the advantage of the rp over the r7 are very small

[@markwiemels]

Thanks for sharing, please see the pinned comment. I cover this in that video. Also note, speed boosters do reduce image quality, although I still like them anyways, but just something to be aware of.

[@Lepewhi]

Can EF lenses be adapted to Canon RF mount?

[@markwiemels]

Yes

[@Lepewhi]

@@markwiemels Great!!! I plan to buy one next month. Hopefully, the prices will drop right before Christmas.

[@markwiemels]

@@Lepewhi Black Friday sales. For sure.

[@wedchic7]

Sheesh! And I just bought the Sigma 56 for my M50!

[@35259edgarboudaher]

The sigma primes are great on the M cameras you won't find better for the price.

[@GrantMcWilliams]

That's actually one of my favorite lenses and I use it on my M6 II. You couldn't get anywhere near that type of a lens for that price on FF.

[@markwiemels]

That's a great setup, plenty good enough for professional work. Shouldn't have any regrets there.

[@ChuckinAurora]

I have the RP. It’s a great photo only camera.

[@markwiemels]

agree.

[@quanthan3244]

What are your thoughts on the EOS RP vs R? Should I spend a little more for the R?

[@villagranvicent]

I don't think the difference between R and RP of 500 bucks would be considered "a little more" (considering I bought a like-new 6D for $410) I would put that extra money on the 24mm or the 35mm RF lens. IQ between those 3 cameras will be basically the same.

[@markwiemels]

Most people, that have both, say that in real work use there is almost no difference.

[@quanthan3244]

Thank you, Mark and Ricardo!

[@VirtualTourPhotographer]

I own both. I'd debate some of the points here. I've had consistently better results with the R7 in low light. It's also stuck with a sensor that's exposed when changing lenses compared to the R7's sensor covered up when you change lenses. The R7 is also far faster in focus.. Bokeh can be overrated especially when most of the time, people don't shoot (I don't) at anything less than F4. The blurry background has its place, but both professionally/commercially and for personal, more in focus is often more valuable. Miss focus at a shallow depth of field and you have no room for recovery. And the battery.... it's terrible. I also only shoot with non-crop lenses bar 1 the 24 pancake ef-s (about 12 lenses) - What I do like about the RP is that it's quiet, simple, light, and a darn good backup and very helpful when shooting multicam video as long as have continuous power on it and feeding it direct from the mini hdmi. If you've been a Canon shooter with LPE6 batteries too, then that's just another reason to go R7 - carrying two battery formats around when shooting with multiple bodies is a royal pain.

[@MrKkspeed]

The EOS RP has worse dynamic range at base ISO, but it catches up at higher ISO values. It can even match Sony A7RIV going ISO 1600 or above. On the other hand, at the price point of R7, the competition is quite fierce, all with various trade-offs. Just to name a few: EOS R, Panasonic S5, G9, GH5, Sony A7 III, A7C, Nikon Z5, Olympus EM-1 MK 3, EM-1X. It's really up to the buyer to decide what trade-offs and what features they are looking for.

[@markwiemels]

Would agree, the RP stands out for its value, especially used.

[@CamoHorizon]

All these videos i keep seeing people not mentioning crop 4k for the eos rp.

[@beachboy0505]

Good analysis, two completely different usage.

[@eerofi]

This video made it very easy: R5 to the shopping cart! 😅

[@markwiemels]

Yah, there is no comparison there.

[@wedchic7]

I remember when the arguement about the EOS RP vs the Fujifilm X-T3/4

[@markwiemels]

Yes, 3 years ago.

[@doctorcosta]

All videos in my channel are taken with RP. It’s a great camera for KZbin.

[@markwiemels]

Yah, hard to beat for the money.

[@Y2kphotos]

I went with the RP upgraded from a 70d