Why I Can't Stand YouTube Sponsorships

[@sirmuz]

I'm sorry Crab, but kits for shaving your balls are very relevant to Pokemon videos and are therefore morally correct to advertise

[@SodaCrab]

I hadn't considered that, I'll have to delete the video

[@Lindasaur.]

Sponsors in videos is one reason to love the addition of showing the most replayed moments, cause usually it's the end of the goshdarn ad and it's really helpful to see a visualized spike rather than blindly skip around.

[@cognitiveAfflatus]

if you're going to do that you could just get sponsorblock at that point lmao

[@PlatinumComet]

You know you've been on this platform for too long when the segway to a sponsor becomes a fight or flight response.

[@jwolen0959]

My issue has always been when the creator is clearly just like...lying? Like it's one thing to say "hey this VPN does exactly what a VPN is supposed to do, use my code for 10% off" And it's another to say "hey this mobile game that literally not a single fucking person on the planet enjoys playing is something that I totally play all the time and you can join my clan and play with me"

[@blueshellincident]

I can smell a sponsorship a mile away and skip them reflexively, but I don't mind them as much as ads.

[@SodaCrab]

I hate ads as much as the next guy but the thing that gets me about the sponsorships is just the personal element. At least ads are mostly just annoying, sponsorships are usually just creators exploiting their viewers' trust to peddle snake oil.

[@zaneheaston8254]

@@SodaCrabYou gotta realize with the amount of time & effort some people put in their videos, it might as well be a second job, and if you are putting in that much work, you’d expect some sort of compensation I blame KZbin for not sharing enough of their ad revenue with creators, I don’t hate either, but when ads & sponsorships are for the same video, it gets unbearable

[@IndexInvestingWithCole]

@@zaneheaston8254 how much ad revenue should KZbin share?

[@elio7610]

"Sponsorships" are easilly much worse because they are a part of the video itself. An ad is an annoying nterruption but it can be separated from the video, sponsorship segments blur everything together to the point where everything could be an ad. I am not sure why anyone even expects KZbin to be a reliable source of income, I can understand feeling entitled to some money for making videos but it is better to just get a job that actually pays rather than resort to sponsorships. If youtubers actually chose to get a job doing something else when regular ad revenue was not enough then KZbin would also be more incentivised to actually do something to support creators on their platform, sponsorships just enable KZbin to neglect creators.

[@noireisbest6786]

@@elio7610 For some people, like those with disabilities or in horrible job markets KZbin might seem like a decent option since it would be a work from home job. Also, it seems like most jobs don't pay good enough compared to cost of living. I've seen some creators who clearly have skills in other areas but it seems like KZbin is more or less another stream of income to make sure they can pay rent and eat. I'd rather see someone take the money than be homeless or starve since their life is going to be a lot worse than mine when all I'm going to do is skip the ad read. Considering they already got their money for the sponsorship, then viewers just block the sponsored ads with Sponsorblock, teach kids about Sponsorblock, teach everyone you know about Sponsorblock.

[@Danominator]

Using your own sponsorship parody for footage is such a boss move, Crab. Glad more people are talking about how annoying sponsorships are becoming.

[@SodaCrab]

Idk what you're talking about, the source for that footage is SuperWailordFan12

[@joebobjon1127]

I’ve watched the video, and your arguments are solid. I would like to argue that sponsors are sometimes necessary for channels that KZbin tends to withhold ad money from, intentionally or otherwise. Things in copyright grey-areas or videos clearly made for audiences above ~16 years old that KZbin recommends to kids anyway and gets mad at the creators for. In those cases, it feels like sponsors are insurance for ad revenue being stifled during the early days of a video when it gets the most views. It’s still a needless loss for the viewers, but one essentially forced by KZbin instead of chosen by the creators.

[@glasses6524]

this is especially true for creators that don't upload often, like animators or video essayists. as far as i understand it, low consistency of uploads is punished by the algorithm. for them especially, i find sponsorships forgivable.

[@BeanBeanKingdom]

My life has never been the same since you shilled me socks.

[@SodaCrab]

Look, I made an apology video already. I'm officially morally absolved of all wrongdoing.

[@Baark0]

"video might play in-between your scheduled ads"

[@DarkAuraLord]

@1:48 no the fuck I don't, I use sponsor block like a sane person. I'm LONG past the point of dealing with people shilling shit in the middle of a video. We have EXTENSIONS my boy, which is good because this site is fucking unusable without them.

[@SodaCrab]

KZbin can whine about adblockers all day and I can at least see where they're coming from (even if I disagree), but using SPONSOR blockers is objectively moral and correct.

[@silassummers7134]

Crab is 100% right, Not only do all sponsorships read identical to one another, but when someone promotes something like “Dragon City”, I love hearing what their favorite dragon is after using it for 5+ years

[@Manticorpse]

melon dragon. easy pick.

[@captainchewbacca1407]

I always put up with youtubers having sponsors because "hey, they need to get paid too" and they would always say that KZbin doesn't pay much so they need the sponsors. Then I would see these youtubers buying huge houses, expensive cars, go on expensive trips and over all just waste several times my yearly income on unnecessary things so I realized that they just want MORE money. I still don't really care much because I too want more money and I never really fall for any of the sponsorships outside of me already looking for a similar product and deciding to try it out using a discount code. I just don't like when they use the whole "we are poor, boo hoo" bit to justify it. Get the sponsorship, go for it, but don't try to lie to us about how necessary it is when you get paid by KZbin and/or Twitch, Patreon backers, and the sponsors.

[@elio7610]

Yeah, it often seems like they don't even need the extra money anyway.

[@gg_sam7847]

I was on the defender side just once, and it was like a year ago for the Yogscast. And it was because they're essentially a small company that doesn't get all that high amounts of views, and the sponsor was over a few streams where I think they collaborated with Sony or something to design a game. Tbh I don't remember what the sponsorship was about, it was boring haha. But they've got like over 50 mouths to feed so I can't fault them for taking a sponsor that's very gamer related (and isn't any of those annoying as all hell Gamer Supps types, but an actual thing to do with games)

[@gg_sam7847]

And don't even get me started on all the Charity work they do

[@GaybrohamStinkton]

​@@gg_sam7847you realise they actively stole money several times to fund vaporware right? And my understanding was implications of being nonces as well

[@Lindasaur.]

Speaking of "putting up" with the ads, I always felt really guilty about skipping them, so I just used to sit there and watch the youtuber ramble on about a product I couldn't even buy or idgas about. This is where the "manipulation" point crab talks about comes in. I didn't skip them because they're made with the voices and faces of someone who entertains me, "I'll feel bad!", I thought. But just about a couple of months ago, I'd had enough. I started skipping sponsors and I realized "wtf, that's literally like a midroll", only then realizing how manipulated I had been. I ain't falling for this kinda bs ever again. Nowadays sponsors to me are like an inconvenient and worse ad, straight up, since you don't know where it ends at, while an ad is either short and ends immediately or you can see when you can skip it. I don't even feel bad about saying that anymore. Glad I got my stuff together about this cause it's so freaking annoying. And just to mention it, I hate them even more for the reason that I usually put on videos as background noise when I'm drawing and then hearing "LeT's TaLk AbOuT tOdAy'S sPoNsOr!!!!1!!" makes me so mad, because then I have to stop my work to pick up my phone that's usually in an inconvenient spot just to skip it!

[@l_ogid]

Based crab, 🦀🦀 even funnier when the ad read vouches for a service having "used" it for e.g. 2 years when a WHOIS lookup reveals the domain has only been around for half of that. 🦀🦀

[@Cats_are_cool_i_guess]

I agree, especially when someone promotes something bad like betterhelp and it’s obvious they don’t research before getting that bag

[@AshyMuted]

It's NEVER a case of not doing research with BetterHelp. If someone is taking BetterHelp sponsorships, they are always knowingly promoting an awful company/service.

[@SodaCrab]

BetterHelp especially gets me because it preys on people who are struggling with something

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

I'm boycotting anyone that promotes BetterHelp. You should know better, and if you don't, well... You're telling me all I need to know.

[@golderzoa]

i'm pretty sure a lot of big creators who sponsor them know exactly what they are doing. i don't think they are oblivious at all. i stopped giving people the benefit of the doubt because you only enable it by being okay with it at all. as an anti advertiser person i'd rather have the annoying ads then the in video sponsorship. i don't like ads but i'd rather have the annoying stupid ads then some creator trying to sell me stuff that i'd probably not need or want. the only time i'd sponsor something is if it was something i genuinely use all the time and a product i personally like or am passionate about. i'm against shelling products if they don't actually like what they are selling and just doing it for the money. if it was something they actually liked and genuinely use that's one thing. i personally would prefer no ads at all and pay a yearly premium to use the site and have all the features rather then get ads. that's just me personally. though companies do that and still have ads so i guess OH WELL thanks amazon!

[@abdiel952]

I hate when people started taking the sponsorship again after the backlash died down cause they think people will forget

[@Mngalahad]

Sponsors can pay 10k usd for one video. Thats way too good of a deal to not use sponsors. But yes, i skip them and have never purchased land in scotland or whatever

[@joecastle288]

I wouldn't say utilizing sponsorships overall is a showing of bad character, rather it depends on the specific sponsor chosen. For people who make high quality videos that take ages to make and can't post as frequently, such as animations, or people who are making videos on sensitive topics that youtube arbitrarily deems as not ad-friendly, sponsorships and patreon are really the only avenues for income when pursuing those things, so I don't mind them. As far as I can tell, brands like Magic Spoon or Factor or NordVPN are relatively harmless, and I excuse them. When creators choose to take sponsorships from misleading and/or harmful brands like Betterhelp or gambling-based mobile games, ESPECIALLY MULTIPLE TIMES, then I feel more critical. Creators should always be doing research into the morality of companies they want to take sponsorships from.

[@neoqwerty]

MagicSpoon's crime is they taste godawful even for knockoffs AND they're more expensive than the brands. As for NordVPN, they had a HUGE DATA BREACH. Like, the irony of a privacy-touting vpn getting ALL ITS USER DATA HACKED.

[@Fennekinkid257]

The worst part is no one gets sponsored by Moon Pies. I wouldn’t mind that. I already buy more than probably everyone else.

[@tiborn1559]

I watched this video using my raycon earbuds, while playing raid shadow legends and being connected to Nord VPN, Surfshark and Cyberghost VPN, to make sure my data (that is probably very uninteresting for anyone except potential advertisers) is safe. Oh but how could I forget, I also wore socks. God bless youtube sponsorships

[@inefffable]

Sponsorblock saves lives

[@neoqwerty]

The only thing that sucks with Sponsorblock is whoever flagged Louis Rossmann's plug for his koi-watching stream.

[@Tierd]

I never thought about the whole ecosystem but it makes so much sense now, so many sponsorships are 100% a cashgrab because most companies that want KZbinrs sponsoring them are horrendous in one way or another (or in every way). Most of the time morals are quite literally thrown out of the window and so is empathy or any sort of care towards the viewers. I like it in MandJTV’s case where there’s a whole new character that makes sponsorship segments noticeable compared to other parts of the videos, but otherwise I never was bothered once. I feel like sometimes if a KZbinr sponsors a product that is hot garbage and says they are “thankful” to the viewers, I’d question the gratitude Sponsorships on KZbin just need to be less distracting from the experience and the products being sponsored need to be actually good and somewhat on topic for the viewer to be intrigued It’s funny how sponsorships being played in the start of a video clashes so much with KZbinrs wanting the viewer to be as hooked as possible Whenever I see a raid shadow legends sponsor it’s always so bad it’s funny

[@AsianRailgun]

I stopped trusting sponsorships ever since the Better Help thing turned out to be a failure.

[@MuffinmanondruryIane]

YT sponsorships are why my fingers are glued to the right arrow key.

[@neoqwerty]

At this point you could use L, I have yet to find a 5 second sponsor spot.

[@Clepston]

The fire emblem heroes ad read hit so fucking hard man. That shit was too real

[@TheUKNutter]

That’s why I appreciate channels such as Captain Disillusion or Ahoy, since they have millions of subscribers, yet have not once put a sponsor on their channels.

[@AceBattleStorm]

Yeah i've gotten very tired of the lack of integrity by a lot of content creator. So many creators and even their fans defending promoting garbage to their fans. I get wanting to make money from your work more directly, but some people take it too far. They'll go on and on about their passion for their creation and love for their fans yet will sell them garbage, scams, and products that are a bad influence like addictive things

[@AceBattleStorm]

I hate people acting like the default situation of a creator is that they don't have jobs and will be homeless without peddling trash. Creators didn't just spawn in to the world out of nowhere with nothing to their name other than recording equipment. I love your point about entitlement. And about becoming a full time creator is not for everyone.

[@AceBattleStorm]

I have more respect for the creators i follow who truly seem to only take sponsorships they see as valuable. Thanks for giving your honest option on the topic, i think a lot of creators are hesitant to make the point for fear of backlash from other creators, their fans and sponsors. But its important so we can hopefully improve the creator ecosystem 👍

[@poleon2003]

@@AceBattleStorm Yeah so many people forget WHY people started making KZbin videos WAY back in the sites inception back then in like around 2006-ish in the first place like it was just a hobby for everyone back then honestly that mentality I feel has been all gone to time

[@bandannadoo]

I think if you're going to do a KZbin sponsorship it should be at the very end of a video. The only people in the audience who are actually going to click that link or use that referral code are people who want to go out of their way to support the creator, 99% of people will never care about the sponsorship they're being shown.

[@nicocchi]

Throwing shade at Fire Emblem Heroes' pvp is peak

[@chris07]

'Beyond that, it would be extremely hypocritical of me to denounce advertising' followed IMMEDIATELY by a KZbin advert LMAO

[@SodaCrab]

LMAO I just let it auto-place the ad breaks, didn't realize KZbin had perfect comedic timing

[@chris07]

@@SodaCrab Sometimes KZbin does have a good (ad)sense of humor

[@greengamermaster]

I'm very happy I'm not the only person who feels this way. As someone who came from early youtube where people just used to make vidoes as a hobby to now where people try to make it a career by using shitty sponsorships, it really hurts to see how people lost integrity for "that bag" or "they'll starve". Probably why becoming a youtuber is a big fear of mine. Hate to go down a dark path of doing shitty sponsorships just to make a quick buck.

[@panzalinopanzultimate4796]

On principle for ruining my moment and also brainrot eating my attention span I often end up leaving and never finishing videos with mid-roll ad-reads. Also if im mid shower and you start reading one GIGA-fuck you I'm out. Honestly thinking about peoples attention spans nowadays mid-roll reads gotta be a nightmare for channel metrics, thinkin how many people just leave the video halfway through because of it, I'm no youtuber tho so what do i know other than *I* hate em.

[@superkonijn988]

The only thing missing from the feh ad spoof was showing someone from your friendlist who has been offline for 30+ days during the guild section. God am i glad i jumped that ship

[@jamesoniris2647]

I was watching a recent video from Something Sinister (who I have mixed feelings on his videos) and it went from a murder case to a abrupt and sudden ad spot and then went into a scary ghost video that was so fake.

[@brunop.8745]

Good thing SponsorBlock exists!

[@nasswtor]

I use an ad blocker (like most people on desktop probably do) so I dont have to "pay the toll" for regular youtube ads. As a result i dont mind KZbin ad reads as much. With the "new" feature (not really that new anymore) where you can see the viewer retention on the progress bar of the video, you can usually skip sponsor in one click. So I dont really mind them, and everyone likes money so I understand why people take them, especially since its a lot more common and morally acceptable than it used to be.

[@HoChiPro]

Yes Jet get that bag 💰💰💰

[@DuelingSteel]

Your honesty is refreshing as water in a vast dry desert, thank you Soda Crab.

[@costelinha1867]

The most annoying part, and it happens a lot when I watch videos without adblocks is this: Watching the video, then youtube cuts to 2 or 3 UNSKIPPABLE ads, then the video comes back... ONLY FOR THE KZbinR TO IMMEDIATELY START A 2 MINUTE LONG SPONSOR SEGWAY! I LITERALLY JUST WATCHED 3 ADVERTISEMENTS! THREE! AND NOW i'M FORCED TO FUMBLE TO SKIP A HUGE CHUNK OF TIME FROM THE VIDEO JUST SO I DON'T HAVE TO WATCH YET ANOTHER ONE! Not to mention both regular youtube advertisements and sponsor segways killing the pace of the video. And let's also not forget how many of those segways are for extremely shady companies, like Better Help, or in some cases ads to betting website or virtual casino mobile games that are TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTALLY NOT GAMBLING (Even though they're designed to look and function exactly like a typical slot machine) Or what about those times where the ENTIRE VIDEO is a sponsor segway disguised as a regular video by said content creator. (cof cof, Jaiden Animations, cof cof, like seriously her Genshin Impact video was just pure cringe)

[@AidenPremium]

I never really thought of it that way! I’ve always noticed that sponsorships are usually for things I don’t feel the creator actually uses- if I were to ever accept a sponsorship, it would have to be for something I already use and enjoy. I feel that it really is objectively wrong to personally advertise a product that you don’t actually believe in.

[@comfy39]

SponsorBlock is so effective, I kind of forgot what these are like.

[@InfinitySevens]

Sponsorblock is a godsend.

[@TheUKNutter]

Not for iPhone mobile users, who can’t access extensions… Also, Chrome is forcing adblockers to be removed in a month or so.

[@Jewls1]

@@TheUKNutter then switch to librawolf or some other firefox pirate, there's always a method to get around anti-consumer practices

[@SakhotGamer]

@@TheUKNutter I don't think sponsor block will suffer from this, it skips youtube video parts, not block ads. Also adblockers will probably find a way to keep working even if more limited

[@0tterhead]

I think the biggest issue here is mostly for how youtube is a platform people often forget is a money sink. It costs google money to host it and its consistently losing money. So they dont want to pay a decent amount of ad rev for a video that took a month to make while nothing else was making money for that person, because itd be even more money hemhorraging. So the youtuber has to essentially take a commission to shill garbage to compensate for the lack of ad rev given during the month long creation period and the likely mediocre to practically chump change youtube ad rev payout. I'd put youtube premium sales into the equation but i genuinely dont think real humans subscribe to that service for the insane cost it takes.

[@0tterhead]

Also I feel I should clarify, while i absolutely disagree with some of your points (not kid oriented content being sponsored by gacha though i agree. (I think generally you shouldnt be allowed on the internet before age 18 but i digress)) soda crab, seeing as your stance is coming from that of a hobbyist youtuber, its not your willingly chosen sole job, i do immensely respect your opinion here. You do you man.

[@vetricanthbarrhead3055]

I have to buy my own frozen microwave meals thanks to this vid. How dare you. I'll punish you the worst way I know possible. I'm following you

[@walnut_raisin2621]

Yeah I wouldn't mind sponsorships if they werent literal snake oil *and* actually were well made. There's a reason why "If a youtuber is promoting it, dont buy it" is a common enough phrase. Hell, you have huge channels like Smosh still taking sponsorships from a well known dubious platform Better Help, not to mention Kurtis Conner supporting Hello Fresh even tho he has admonished other companies that have exploited customers and their workers. And those two do the shitty ad break. When you have KZbinrs who make it entertaining like with The Harry Gold show or Tomska, what they're selling is still a shitty VPN or what have you. And I'm a fan of all these creators but it's hard not to be critical of snake peddling, even when dolled up

[@punishedgwynie]

sponsorblock actually works. gotta get in on it.

[@Psychshifted]

I dont in principle have an issue with sponsorships but the ones where i know they know theyre bullshiting make me so mad. I know the tech youtuber knows VPNs arent literal security magic.

[@taiscommentingaccountusedf1908]

I like your style crab man Keep it up

[@Chaosloki]

PSA: Sponsorblock an addon for FF automatically skips sponsor/ad read segments in videos. Greatest extension ever since companies started getting youtubers to shill their products directly in the video instead of having a played ad to try to counteract adblockers.

[@alexbluer]

I am gonna say that you bring really good points why some people can feel alienated and even think their moral are not the best. But at the end i feel that all of this just falls into moral opinion and how we see advertising on youtube, the thing there is that i cannot see it like you do, mostly because for me it just that silent agreedment of "we all know that you are gonna skip this", like at the end i think is worse the advertisment of youtube just because you cannot skip it and can be even worse. Of course maybe i say this because i use extensions to skip the sponsors without doing anything so i just dont find it annoying nor break the pace of the videos, also i guess that it helps that i see not so big youtubewrs and most of them tend to not have their videos monitized because stupid reasons. And you are right that not everyone has to be a youtuber, but my counter argument is that i as a viewer i want more videos from my favorite content creators, so i dont mind them putting ads

[@dogryme6]

Almost 2 minutes in but hoo boy it's the funniest thing in the world to me when the "most replayed" section of a youtube video conveniently has a high bar that coincidentally overlaps the exact point a built-in sponsorship segment ends Bonus points if the video is chaptered and there's a segregated chapter that is just entirely the sponsored part and you can click the chapter right after that to start the non-sponsored part of the video.

[@dogryme6]

All my homies hate gacha games and underage gambling. Pass it on. I agree with everything that has been said in this video. Keep doing your thing mister soda crab.

[@andrewcasias2676]

A lot of the people I watch these days used to do sponsors, but once they got a decent following they phased the sponsorships out and just went to having a Patreon. I don’t really mind that, anyway.

[@FleetAdmirable]

Is that crab risk of rain 2

[@bmac4]

I think a lot of this is ultimately on the advertisers/sponsors and youtube to a lesser extent, personally. Advertisers/sponsors have such a hard time getting people's attention because if they try to just run ads, nobody gives a damn and they just click skip, you have to do something to make people invested in the product enough to want to know more. So they have to kinda worm their fingers in deeper. And KZbin does give people the ability to monetize but with payment the reasons for demonetization so arbitrary that there's so little stability in it. Some types of content also just inherently get the revenue taken away, and some fulltime creators have like full on teams that I imagine make the ad revenue itself dry up quickly. People are too wont to endorse dumb crap though. Get gambling ads out of here. I will still have disdain for some sponsorships more than others. Sucks man

[@elio7610]

Advertisements as a whole are generally unethical, at least in the way that they are shoved in our faces at random (or not so randomly). Advertisements are generally just glorified unsolicited messages and often fit the criteria for spam or harassment, sometimes can even be considered propaganda or mind control at extremes. Society has become way to comfortable with advertisements and the idea that it is okay to run ads everywhere is crazy. Everything costs money, I understand that, but that does not justify every method of funding. There is a whole system in place to survey people's interests and to direct specific ads to specific people, such a system can essentially be used as targeted mind control. Most of the ads I recieve are just for various products but I know there are political advertisements in the US, ads essentially trying to tell people how to vote, how is that not essentially mind control? This whole advertisement system could potentially morph into a much more direct mind control system as technology advances and people continue to accept it. I suppose almost anything can be considered mind control to some extent, the whole purpose of communication is to influence other people's minds, but advertisements are not a consentual interaction.

[@bmac4]

@@elio7610 Agreed on political ads. The US banned advertisements of cigarettes ages ago as an ethical issue, there really should be bans on more stuff. Liquor, gambling, prescription drugs, and if you're gonna run political ads they should at least be confined to a period before the stated election day and not this yearslong bs (Id say they shouldnt at all but alas ads in favor of garbage often means ads against it and Im not sure how you'd fight against the big guys)

[@a1goldenrunner]

I already ate some Sonic this morning now you made me want more

[@hiimgone9323]

once again banger video crab

[@ashleyking8851]

brought to you by raid shadow legends!

[@quentc]

The markup on Raycons is kinda crazy, I remember getting mine for $40ish and that only felt worth it when they survived a round in the wash Maybe they were playing the long con.. the long.. RAYcon...

[@MegamanStarforce2010]

wait till ya'll hear about the miracles of sponsorblock

[@L1v1ngDeAdGirl]

Just a reminder that most all sponsorship segments are exactly 1 minute long so if you spam skip six times as soon as it starts, you'll almost always skip to just before it ends.

[@itmegibby2459]

The problem is that good products don't need to be advertised by youtubers. Can't remember the last time I saw a good product segment, but I also just skip them regardless.

[@BramstukerScott-mb8kv]

Yeah I disagree. You have more ‘strings attached’ when you monetize a video on KZbin. The sponsorship allows more freedom, especially if they’re discussing certain topics. Also I use as lockers most of the time anyway, so I don’t blame creators for taking sponsorships. The sponsorships may be shilling crap to me, but it’s not like the ad breaks aren’t doing the same as well, which the creator has no control over. The only problem I have is when creators have sponsorships, KZbin ads, Patreon and asking us to buy their merch. That’s just a bit too much. But yeah, all of those have their downsides and none is better than the other imo.

[@BramstukerScott-mb8kv]

I use adblockers. This comment is a consequence of using adblockers since KZbin purposefully makes their mobile web Youuube experience as shitty as possible to force us to use their app.

[@Skablergen]

Sorry you had me until the Sonic™ slander

[@redfire005]

I got a feel jet the hawk might lost to adelard

[@MrCactuar13]

Can't wait til Jet's election campaign gets the lore treatment like the Iron Mugulus saga

[@littletasha2000]

I propose a new candidate Spyro because they’re an adorable purple dragon 🤗 💜🐉

[@imtheparty12]

SponsorBlock is great.

[@k-bobkid6866]

The only reason I'm fine with sponsorships is the context of the Adpocalypse/Demonitization issues. Advertising should work in the way presented in the beginning of the video, but after 2016 that went out the window for any video with uncensored swears or edgy commentary/content. Seeing a sponsorship on a video that clears monitization absolutely should raise red flags for viewers, but I can appreciate it as an alternative form of income when KZbin doesn't want to pay them. Especially since you can manually skip sponser segments yourself and KZbin won't screw up the video stream every 5 minutes on non-Chromium browsers when it tries to load an ad. In that case, Sponsorship/no ads > No sponsor/ads.

[@lanthanum3357]

soda crab proving time and time again to be the only cool youtuber

[@golderzoa]

The Soda Be Fizzing those facts! Good Video Soda Crab

[@MegamanStarforce2010]

waiting till soda crab gets a big enough bag to put his morals in the ground and put a sponsorship up

[@Blazewheat]

We love Soda Crab 🗣️‼️

[@gg_sam7847]

Pop off king, preeaach

[@MrJellyman223]

im a big drew gooden fan but i cant lie, him dedicating a minute and a half of every video to promote nordvpn or something is kinda lame. what happened to just making a patreon? i would absolutely run up drew goodens patreon especially if it made it so he never had to take a sponsorship again. like he has a huge, very dedicated fanbase. if he offers interesting, exclusive content on there i feel like he would be making money hand over fist? and same with a bunch of youtubers. but instead he ruins the pace of his videos he spends months on just to sell people a vpn they dont need or a meal kit thats too expensive. idk

[@Kaiji...]

I usually click off if I hear a sponsor read. There’s very little content on KZbin that I’d actually watch outside of background noise.

[@jamesonsmoogle7407]

It hurts my heart cuz I hate adds but I don't blame people for deciding to get cash or free stuff to waffle for 5 minutes. Skipping ads and using extensions doesn't hurt the viewers or creatives so it feels like a necessary evil

[@katerinakatykat]

holy shit man you threw facts so hard you might as well become a proffesional thrower of facts

[@raysomethingsomething]

I'll never forgive what happened to SuperWailordFan12 for his youtube sponsorships

[@SodaCrab]

Yeah I get why the fans were upset after the whole socks incident, but I think they went a little overboard taking out a hit on him.

[@bennyk384]

I agree with this video for the most part. Where I disagree stems mostly from the fact that KZbin income, even for full time KZbinrs, can be unstable. Especially if KZbin is fucking with monetization rules or things like that. So, ignoring patreon, channel membership & large KZbinrs that don't need the money, I'm a little more lenient on KZbinrs. Although, for the amount of money they're getting, they really ought to do their due dilligence and not promote scams -_-

[@guedesbrawl]

i dunno, they can be annoying but i can just tune then out and briefly open another tab to check something out. like, it sucks, sure, but all the add breaks on TV when I watched TV years ago sucked way, way worse, and I got through that just fine. We just got accept it's either seeing these things or not getting YT videos at all

[@andymcclurg9916]

I don't use an adblocker to give KZbinrs more ad revenue, but is it necessary?

[@ShadowXeldron]

To be honest at this point I grumble for a bit and manually skip the sponsored segments. I know there's a browser plugin to bypass that (and I do use adblock) but I can't be bothered installing any more plugins.

[@lukebytes5366]

Personally, i _would_ go as far as to say that adding monetary incentive such as a sponsorship to user generated content, is almost always going to lead to unethical nonsense one way or another. There's a reason mods and fangames have a stigma towards monetizing their content, and that's not just for legal reasons. For one, youtubers are not businessmen, and they aren't treated like such. Most don't have the due dilligence or skill to sift through and value sponsorships properly, because you don't need that kind of skill to become a youtuber in the first place. From that perspectice, taking a sponsor even if you know it to be crap, even if your audience probably knows is crap, is beneficial enough in the short term to be worth it to most people. I guarantee some just take sponsors knowing that their audience knows it's crap and hoping that their audience doesn't actually fall for it, effectively getting free money in their mind. Secondly, i personally just despise the gigification of internet hobbies. It never benefits the people that actually need the money nearly as much as it benefits the money hungry. No longer on youtube is it best to make content that you want to make, rather it is best to game an impossible system. And while you _can_ still do the former, you completely deny yourself the tempting benefits of the latter that so many others sow...

[@heyguysxd]

Someone is never getting sponsored😂.

[@healthyminds9279]

Thank you for tipping the scales enough to change my mind on this issue. My best friend does youtube for a living and needs the sponsorships, so it was hard for me to admit the truth to myself that sponsorships are bad. Well, the vast majority of youtube sponsorships, that is. Your point that drove it home for me was, "Nobody is entitled to be a youtuber for a living". It's super true, just like with any competitive creative career. Just like how nobody's entitled to be an actor for a living, or write picture books. If you get a job for the sake of expressing your creativity, rather than a job that is economically needed, then you are taking a huge risk with your time. Doing sponsorships for a creative career isn't super immoral; yet you can't deny that it's driven by individualistic thinking at the expense of society.

[@elio7610]

Yeah, choosing to work on something does not entitle you to compensation unless someone hired you to do that work. Unfortunately, a platform like KZbin can potentially exploit this as a way to make money off of creators work without paying those creators since these creators were never hired in the first place but then the platform itself does have costs to pay and they are providing a service so it is not exactly one sided.

[@SakhotGamer]

Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior THE SPONSOR BLOCK EXTENSION!

[@Clepston]

Vote for Edelgard!

[@SodaScarletMachine]

I just use an sponsor skipper addon :>

[@jsilvuh6194]

omg yassss Soda Crab got sponsored by M*bile Legends of Idle Legends, get that bag!!!

[@johndoe9343]

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[@MigoKazan]

It also doesn't help that every single sponsored product is a lot worse'n most of the competition.. good products don't need predatory marketing, so why do they even sponsor content creators? The best way to make people avoid yer garbage product is to aggressively shove it in their face; sponsors just never work, except to grab a tiny handful of fools desperate to copy their favorite content creators (even though let's face it.. they don't REALLY eat Factor meals everyday or use Manscape's patented Nut Balm (TM)) Content creators who accept sponsorships almost never care about their community; most of the time they've simply reached the point where YT is exclusively about making money, they don't read comments anymore, and just leave all of the managing to their underpaid employees while they make a fortune and pretend to be humble, relatable figures afaik, the only actually decent sponsored product is Displate since it doesn't really have any competition, and literally the only content creator who manages to make sponsored segments entertaining is the Nostalgia Critic

[@giratina6665]

What do I do if I want Edelgard to win?

[@SodaCrab]

Leave the country

[@MalorakPKMN]

People gotta eat.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

OK, but it would be really funny if you were to promote Soda's next album. And it's not just because I want to see a crab in a pastor costume.

[@TheCrogun]

@Notevenemily aka Emily As You May Or May Not Know, is the only KZbinr whom'st sponsorships aren't an automatic fast-forward for me.

[@mercury5003]

I hate to be that person, I understand not wanting to reveal your income from ad revenue (pretty sure that's KZbin TOS anyways), but its a bit harder for you to illustrate the point that larger youtubers make enough money to not need to take sponsorships when we don't really have a good idea of what you make by comparison. I also do feel that a lot of youtubers would much rather stay being youtubers than work some other job, of course I agree to an extent that nobody is entitled to it but its not necessarily about whether its their only option; though I've definitely seen youtubers say its all they can do, but I really think the strife of "I promoted a shitty product on my funny video about super mario bros 2" is a lot less than worrying about whether a boss is going to fire you from your minimum wage job because you looked at a customer the wrong way, but that's just my two cents. Also Sonics Popcorn chicken fucks, I'm not budging on that.

[@IndexInvestingWithCole]

@@mercury5003 any KZbinr can definitely share all of their ad revenue info

[@SodaCrab]

You can show what you make per KZbin TOS, but only totals. You pretty much can't show anything about how it breaks down. That's part of the reason I didn't want to calculate it all out in the video, I don't want to touch a TOS violation with a 20 foot pole. But also it's just impolite to expose what other people make, so I didn't want to do that to any specific KZbinr

[@yowza9638]

Man I'm so glad I stopped playing FEH

[@SodaCrab]

Recording this footage was my first time opening it since like 2018, I could actively feel the years being taken off of my lifespan every second I was playing it.

[@DarkAuraLord]

@@SodaCrab Awakening was a mistake and I'll die on that hill, and this is coming from somebody who bought every DLC for the game and put about 500 hours into my file. It opened up the floodgates and made them realize just how much they could monetize fan service and raw numbers, and then FEH was born. 😭

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

I actively forget it exists. Never touched it, never will.

[@bigslappy823]

I still play solely for the hope that they'll add my favorite character one day, but with how they've ramped up powercreep to half the speed of fuck, if he's not the next banner from his game then I'm uninstalling.

[@ShadowXeldron]

Oh... it was my third introduction to Fire Emblem after Smash 4 and Blazing Sword on Virtual Console. Haven't played it in years and to be honest I'm never going back. I can't stand mobile games anymore, especially ones with lootboxes.

[@GaybrohamStinkton]

...ublock and revanced. Report those that have in episode ads if you really want idk

[@keaton5101]

I never say it because I don't want to put down someone's hard work, but I get a feeling of disappointment when KZbinrs put a lot of effort into making fun little skits out of their ad segments. Like, that's cool, but I'm still not watch an ad if I can skip it... That effort could really be better used somewhere else

[@dazedmoon8762]

Whats the crab shooter game? Looks lowkey fun EDIT: oh yeah the video was pretty neat as well 👍

[@SodaCrab]

Crab Champions! It's really fun, would recommend!

[@mobius177]

What game are you playing in this video anyway? Looks fun Edit:nvm found it it's called crab champions if anyone else is curious

[@unstablepc5913]

Obviously not what you're talking about, but I remember seeing a video where a guy was sponsored by a museum. Like, the museum sponsored him to do his research and video.