Why I cancelled My Volvo EX90 Order!

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Kris Rifa

Kris Rifa

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@hewy6929
@hewy6929 3 ай бұрын
So a month ago you cancelled a Porsche Macan order and now you cancel an EX90 order. How much cars do you have on order at any given time ?
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
Since I started this channel back in 2016 I have owned 7 cars, so on average I have changed cars once a year. Considering I ordered the EX90 almost two years ago, and the Macan Turbo earlier this year with delivery next year those cars fit perfectly into the trend. But now with them cancelled, I have no plans on ordering anything new yet. Still love my Tacan CT!
@Me777Too
@Me777Too 3 ай бұрын
@@KrisRifawhat is really the purpose of placing orders if you make your mind in a couple of days. You should be aware of what you order and if that fits you, as well what is the budget, what is coming next on market etc etc…. I think these type of videos (repeated) they don’t bring you any positive feedback in the work you do in general- is like you don’t know what you want, what is good for you. A reviewer that is not even able to take decision after having seen so many alternatives. A bit childish Kris….
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
@@Me777Too First of, anybody can order what ever they want and change their mind at any point in time. As I explained in the video there are many reasons for cancelling this order, and none of them are childish. How do you even come to a conclusion like that after watching the video? Is the fact that the interior has disappointing quality compared to the two XC90 I have owned childish? Is the fact that infotainment and ergonomic experience in the new Volvo design and layout bad and terrible in many way childish? I mean come on dude? What is exactly childish? The fact the car will launch without many features due to the SW not being finished when the first cars are delivered? Or is it childish on my part that the car is almost 20% more expensive now from when I ordered it? In the past two years I have ordered two cars that I have cancelled because I haven't gotten to drive them before taking delivery. The Macan interior disappointed me when the first test drives came out, and it was an obvious downgrade compared to the interior in the Taycan I currently own. Nobody knew this at launch or when I ordered it. As a rational human being I tend to change my point of view and my mind based on new information. "is like you don’t know what you want" I ordered these car early to secure early delivery of cars I thought I wanted, and when the first videos came out and the cars didn't seem as good as they initially seemed I cancelled them. So nobody knew how these cars would actually turn out, not me, not you, not the best car journalist or even the people working on them.
@MrHundd
@MrHundd 3 ай бұрын
@@KrisRifa It's childish to pretend you're ordering all the "cool" cars in the world, while you have to drive your old Taycan.
@excellent886
@excellent886 3 ай бұрын
​@@MrHunddTaycan seems not to be a bad car after all. 😂
@RupOase
@RupOase 3 ай бұрын
Kris, while I love your channel, and really appreciate the work that you put up with it, these kind of videos where you "order" something and then you cancel your "order", doesn't bring anything but a lack of trust in the way you review your cars. It is clear from the last few videos, where you cancelled your orders, that you follow the same pattern of unaffordability. I understand that. The cars are indeed getting more and more expensive. But that was the case when you ordered them. EX90 was designed to be an expensive and unaffordable car. Macan was in the same boat. So instead of putting out clips of you creating orders that can be seen from the moon you'll not afford, how about stop making out those clips, have a break, watch a movie with your family. Because that's the definition of click-baiting. I hate click-baiting, just as many around here. And it makes your channel untrustworthy, when you're bragging about ordering, only to quit after a while. How about presenting a car that you actually take delivery of and not generate so much fake drama?
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
sorry dude, but I think you are the one being dramatic and that really makes me sad. I have made almost 1000 videos testing cars and two videos in the past two years cancelling two out of eight I have taken delivery of. So you think me taking delivery of eight cars ordered, and then making almost a thousand videos and then cancelling two makes me untrustworthy? Two? Are you being serious? Wow! Both cancelled cars follow the same pattern, I ordered them early to get an early car. When the first videos dropped on the cars they both turned out to be less luxurious and exciting than at the initial launch. The Macan turned out to be an obvious downgrade in the interior compared to my Taycan. Again something that wasn't apparent or clear when I ordered it, and once I learned this I changed my mind. Do you think people changing their mind based on new information makes them untrustworthy? Because I don't, I would rather surround myself with people have that ability, I think it is a very good trait to possess. The EX90 has shown to have a much worse interior that the XC90 once I actually got to see one, again something I didn't know at launch. I have also said for years, once the electric XC90 is launched I'll be first in line to order one, which I was. After I have gotten to drive the Polestar 3, Polestar 4 and EX30 I have gotten to experience the new Volvo/Polestar ergonomics and infotainment system, and I am not impressed. Another thing this has made me change my mind. I explain all of this in the video. "videos where you "order" something and then you cancel your "order", doesn't bring anything but a lack of trust in the way you review your cars" This is just factually wrong and it amazes me that you are able to conclude this way. I think it actually proves the opposite. I initially ordered these cars thinking (based on my past experience with the brand) these cars would turn out a certain way. And then when I saw the first videos of these cars and they turned out different and worse than I thought, I changed my mind. I am actually acting on my own experience and advice. Would you rather me makes several videos complaining about the EX30 infotainment or the Polestar 3s ergonomics, but then ignore all that and still go through with my EX90 order? Do you think that makes me trustworthy? If so, you may want to look up the definition of trustworthy. It would be like your parents telling you not to drink and smoke and while drinking and smoking. "EX90 was designed to be an expensive and unaffordable car. Macan was in the same boat." Do you have a hard time understanding parts of the video? Because I explain this clearly. In the two years since I ordered the car it has gotten 20% more expensive, interested rates have basically doubled and used ev prices have dropped off a cliff. I may have a higher budget than many, but I don't have unlimited money. And if you claim to have known all of this two years ago, why are you wasting your time commenting on ad KZbin video? You should clearly working as the best financial analyst in the world making billions.
@jameschristianson8697
@jameschristianson8697 3 ай бұрын
Excited to see what's going to be cancelled next.
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha! Well I don't have any other orders, so nothing more to cancel!
@jameschristianson8697
@jameschristianson8697 3 ай бұрын
@@KrisRifa 😢
@elefantbajstvatusen8625
@elefantbajstvatusen8625 3 ай бұрын
@@KrisRifa Easy: just order one so that you can make a video about cancelling it.
@MrHundd
@MrHundd 3 ай бұрын
You cancelled it because you can't afford it. There you have it without 11 minutes of BS.
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
I've had seven cars in the past eight years here on the channel, changing up cars about once per year. But sure, the eight car isn't because I haven't driven it (which would be a frist), or the fact that I am disappointed with the interior which I have spoked about several times, or that I am not a fan of Volvo's new infotainment/ergonomics something I have made several videos about, but it is because you think I can't afford one. Sure dude, sure...
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
​@@SmokingCrop I have several videos showing how not good the new Volvo infotainment system is, and how bad the ergonomics are. Do you actually think having two buttons to control four windows are good ergonomics? Do you really believe having to go into a sub menu to adjust the steering wheel or mirrors is brilliant? Please make a video demonstrating how great this is. Because you are just spouting words, which means noting. The Taycans infotainment may not be the best, but it is very decent. Please explain how it is the worst in a high end car. Because again, you are just saying stuff. There is zero substance in your comment matey. Cars are more than their infotainment systems, and the Taycan is widely renown for being one of the best EVs ever. Just look at several of the top magazines rankings, it's a simple google search away. And you thinking you know what I like better than me makes you just look like moron, there is no other way to put it. Lastly, sure. The video filmed at the Porsche dealer where I showed a signed contract is fake. That makes as much sense as the earth being flat. The photos of the earth from NASA are fake! That's exactly how you sound 🤣🤣 People like you amaze me. Instead of listening to logic, reason and the explanations people give for their choices, you'd rather make up a story in your head that requires so much alteration of the truth it's hilarious.
@tzetv
@tzetv 2 ай бұрын
@@KrisRifa I think the XC90 update might be the optimum on user ergonomics - updated Android screen with buttons too!
@JohnnyRansby
@JohnnyRansby 3 ай бұрын
I’m holding on to my EX90 order with expected delivery january 2025. I do understand your reasons for cancelling, but it sounds like you order many cars and cancel if you do not ‘feel them’ when you get close to your delivery day.
@boenill
@boenill 3 ай бұрын
I read a lot of car tests, and watch a lot of KZbinrs like you. But when it comes to ordering a car, I never do so until I've tested it myself and know it has the qualities I'm looking for!😉
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think that is good idea! But with this one, NOBODY has test driven it yet because it hasn't even come to market. But I am very sceptical about the infotainment/ergonomics situation considering what I don't like about the EX30 and Polestar 3...
@Atl404sFinest
@Atl404sFinest 3 ай бұрын
Good commentary. I am going to hold onto the reservation and test drive it for sure. My heart tells me that I want a new XC90 after its new refresh with an Ultra trim with Bowers.
@MR-vj8dn
@MR-vj8dn 3 ай бұрын
Funny how taste differs among us all 😊 I would never pay for sitting on anything leather (or vegan). I prefer regular fabric, or better yet: wool blend which I have today.
@fredricgrethel1717
@fredricgrethel1717 3 ай бұрын
People in US are canceling this vehicle like crazy due to sudden price increase even to deposit holders. Not a good look.
@davidcottrell570
@davidcottrell570 3 ай бұрын
Seriously? A $3500 increase on a $90000 car? I buy that waiting two years and seeing a lot of other cars come on the market could help Kris change his mind. Another factor is changes to the EV tax forgiveness scheme in Norway. Nothing wrong with a Taycan CT, though new tires won’t be cheap!
@gani2an1
@gani2an1 3 ай бұрын
i think the lucid gravity is a more exciting car to wait for
@larslunde8026
@larslunde8026 3 ай бұрын
I still have an order for a EX90, which have now been delayed until januar 2025. I also have an order for a Polestar 3, which have delivery late september 2024. I'm pretty sure I'll get the P3 and cancel the EX90. Reasons are delivery date, cost (interest), and the fact that many of the systems won't be fully functioning until mid 2025. Like you, I'd rather wait a year or two before buying a EX90, or maybe a EX60...!?
@ytl6674
@ytl6674 3 ай бұрын
If EX90 was avalable 2 years ago, it is recommended. But now, I think it use old technologies with very expensive price. Normally, after 2 years, the EV price should drop for 50% due to the technological advances.
@MykolaDzham
@MykolaDzham 3 ай бұрын
I'd just have ordered EX90 ASAP and then wait for being able to test it and then decide to keep or cancel the order based on the test drive. Unfortunately that doesn't work so easy in Switzerland ...
@starsundsternchen802
@starsundsternchen802 3 ай бұрын
I can understand Your decision. You as a KZbinr have to permanently produce interesting and new content. So with delivery times in the range of years it is hard to keep up with the latest and newest things. Good luck further on!
@BabyKermit_
@BabyKermit_ 3 ай бұрын
I think the fact is that if you want to be early to the party you have to order a car without testdriving it. That beeing said i still think that you whould have been able to test drive it before yours would have been delivered. I dont think anyone in Norway will get their car this year, and if they do it will be late.
@st4rbuk
@st4rbuk 3 ай бұрын
I think Volvo have priced it very wrongly. I have an XC90 but would never consider migrating to the EX90, at least not to a new one as the prices are crazy. A Kia EV9 makes far more sense if I was to switch. Hopefully the significant depreciation will make for such cars to be far more affordable in future. The EX90 doesn’t even come with all the features it would supposed to at launch.
@jukkix
@jukkix 3 ай бұрын
I canceled mine as well. Made the order Nov2022 but with all that's out there -> missing features and crazy price loss of used EV's, why would I pay premium now for two years old car.. Made no sense for me. Thank you for the video and sharing your opinion.
@mikaelskoglund373
@mikaelskoglund373 3 ай бұрын
I would newer order a car without testdriving it.
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree! Never bought a car without test driving one!
@trinitonv8
@trinitonv8 3 ай бұрын
@@KrisRifa Getting my P4 in week 35.Never test drove the car:D
@Scrap-press
@Scrap-press 3 ай бұрын
Great choice Taycan > EX90. Remember EX90 will lack many features at launch.
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's true!
@ram64man
@ram64man 3 ай бұрын
I’m glad , I’m genuinely not enamoured by the xc90 it’s too stripped down , it boarder line boring , as a family car it’s missing stuff , as a performance vehicle it’s lacking, I’m more inclined towards polestar 3 long range ,
@eldalymorningstar
@eldalymorningstar 3 ай бұрын
I've chosen my car without a test-drive. In 2021 you loved the polestar 2 so much and I ordered the PS2 2022 LRSM. And till now I still love the car every day except for some minor things. It even saved my life twice in an unbelievable way. The last time I had to do an emergency break and lane shift in the rain, at 120 km an hour because a slow car (I estimate 70km/h shifted in my lane. I stupidly tried to avoid the car and, in the rain, made a huge avoid move. Instead of losing the grip on the wet highway, the car immediately stabilized the car between the 2 lines as if nothing happened.... I was stunned..... So... I love my no test-drive car mainly because you do a lot better test-drive than that I ever do.
@mho0
@mho0 3 ай бұрын
I also ordered my 270 BST without even possibility to test drive it. Was good decision. Car is magical to drive.
@MotkiAlanTannen-ko7rk
@MotkiAlanTannen-ko7rk 3 ай бұрын
Will Volvo be heavily facelift their XC90? I have model year 23 with Google but the car feels very dated now compared to competitors, many moving over to Hyundai for the new Santa Fe… Volvo desperately need to save their gas Xc series
@poni7373
@poni7373 3 ай бұрын
Same thing as back then when the C70 was announced. I ordered one and then delay after delay after delay what caused me to cancel the order
@koensteenbrugge8098
@koensteenbrugge8098 3 ай бұрын
That was one of the cars I test drove before buying (I didn't purchase 4 cars in my life after a disappointing test drive) and I found the chassis absolutely horrible, so I didn't' buy.
@thomaswestin9987
@thomaswestin9987 3 ай бұрын
Polestar 3 made in USA for Europe/USA markets started production today. Why not order that instead? Porsche driving experience for a bargain.
@The_Observer72
@The_Observer72 3 ай бұрын
EV9 over EX90 all day long.
@nehtals
@nehtals 2 ай бұрын
Cancelled mine and got a EV9
@yptan2010
@yptan2010 3 ай бұрын
Have you considered the Lotus Eletra ?
@trinitonv8
@trinitonv8 3 ай бұрын
Getting a launch model of Polestar3 instead?
@MotkiAlanTannen-ko7rk
@MotkiAlanTannen-ko7rk 3 ай бұрын
Chris is Mr Volvo…. If he is cancelling his EX90 Volvo are in big trouble…… Love my Xc90 with nappa leather and opening panoramic sunroof….. not available in the 100k EV, I’ve only ever driven Volvo cars, not anymore Hyundai Santa Fe Caligraphy on order…
@zergeyn
@zergeyn 3 ай бұрын
What about used low milage audi e-tron gt rs in suzuka grey ?
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
That is certainly something I might consider in the future, but I have no need to replace my Taycan CT yet....
@KenSanders-i1s
@KenSanders-i1s 3 ай бұрын
I want a Zaptec GO homecharger.
@nikpen2921
@nikpen2921 3 ай бұрын
I want a Zaptec GO homecharger
@a.pwhiteside5872
@a.pwhiteside5872 3 ай бұрын
100K for a car that does not have leather, no thanks
@andreass1060
@andreass1060 3 ай бұрын
Just wonder how you can even order a car that was not in production at the time of the order, dont you mean you made a resevation in the production line and not actual order
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
That's the same thing, when you order a car the dealer then requests a reservation on the production line. Before they actually start the production line the automakers would call these preorders. But they work the same way as normal orders, first come, first serve.
@znorman63
@znorman63 2 ай бұрын
elektrosmog deathtrap
@mi2ke
@mi2ke 3 ай бұрын
Hard to step down once youre at the top with Porsche. Would keep the Taycan as well :)
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
True, so true!
@thegeekdeveloper
@thegeekdeveloper 3 ай бұрын
Do you lease your cars to be able to change cars that often?
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
@@thegeekdeveloper I’ve done both over the past 10 years 👌
@thegeekdeveloper
@thegeekdeveloper 3 ай бұрын
@@KrisRifa good to know. I've got an iX3 on lease because the used EV market in Portugal is really bad and uncertain, but also because I don't intend to keep the car for long as EVs will evolve quickly in the coming years.
@sasch4756
@sasch4756 3 ай бұрын
Click bait. Order cars an cancel the order by time and make click bait videos. Seems to be, that you don't know what you want!
@js2009-g9f
@js2009-g9f 3 ай бұрын
I feel a lot of companies their executives never use their strategic products. Certainly feel like the case here. These executives shall be replaced immediately. They should dog foot their own shit. Like Elon Musk drives a Tesla and he used the shitty FSD and give feedbacks. If I’m their CEO no way I let product like this hit market. Yes I’ll be biased like want physical buttons but generally speaking this car feels like coming from designers instead of day to day users
@muratkolay9379
@muratkolay9379 2 ай бұрын
çok doğru tespitler önde tesla gibi küçük bir ekran koymuşlar o kadar çok ucuza kaçmış volvo o paraya yazık olurdu iç mekanını bende beğenmedim minilast bir mekan bana göre değil bol düğmeli tuşluları daha çok severim kısaca çok fonksiyonlu olacak o yüzden tesla ları da sevmem nefret ederim ucuz çin malı otolar gibi duruyor ..........
@mortenjacobsen9631
@mortenjacobsen9631 3 ай бұрын
let's be honest, you can't afford to buy a new one. Way too much debt on the car you have today, 300,000 euros .. so you can't sell it.. Just test cars and don't "buy" new ones and cancel them.. that's testing you're good at!!! more long trip tests.. you're good at that!!!
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
@@mortenjacobsen9631 🤣🤣 my car cost 110k Euros more than two and half years ago… how can I have 300k Euros in debt on it? 🤣🤣🙈
@mortenjacobsen9631
@mortenjacobsen9631 3 ай бұрын
@@KrisRifa RIVERTY NORWAY AS 2600000,- Nkr and the rest off the debt to DNB…
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
@@mortenjacobsen9631 you’re a retard… any one who knows anything about anything knows you cannot have a higher debt on you car than what it cost 🙈 With that being said, I don’t appreciate your comments, and they are in violation of the commenting guidelines as you are spreading false information at this point in time. This is you diet and last warning, anymore shenanigans and you’ll get a ban.
@HaywoodViola
@HaywoodViola 3 ай бұрын
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@cbatiau2528
@cbatiau2528 3 ай бұрын
I think that Volvo/Polestar are going to go out of business unless they stop emulating Tesla and try following Porsche (or Honda, even) more in their cockpits. The masses do NOT want cockpits that look like they were designed by 7-year-old, with tacky-looking iPads glued to dashboards and a lack of useful/safe physical switches/dials. (But then there are the crazy Chinese who maybe prefer Tesla-like cockpits, and Geely does own a majority of Volvo and Polestar, sadly. So all bets are off; maybe the chinese are too stupid to understand all this.) These EX90 types of cars will depreciate wildly and be rather worthless in 5-7 years. I'd like to see a BEV with minimal touchscreen capabilities (touch changes should not be possible in any touchscreen while a car is in motion, so all required actions while a car is in motion should be put back into physical buttons/dials). Citing expense for physical buttons/dials as a reason for not including them (as some people constantly suggeest) is absurd for a luxury-car maker when the cheapest new cars still have physical buttons/dials. (And one thing I'd also like to see go in the reverse direction is voice controls -- which are very limited in ability and are often more frustrating than fiddling with sub-menus with tiny icons in a touchscreen while the car is bouncing over our typical bad roads.)
@thomaswestin9987
@thomaswestin9987 3 ай бұрын
Polestar has way better handling and chassis than Tesla. An electric towbar is also nice. The design is also more interesting than the soap-like Tesla. I do like big tablets. Voice control works very well with Google in Polestar. I rarely use menus. I just push the talk button on the wheel, say where I want to go and it work very well.
@timessix8434
@timessix8434 3 ай бұрын
You look like you lost weight. You ok there? 🥺
@KrisRifa
@KrisRifa 3 ай бұрын
It's called working out and eating healthy 🤣
@timessix8434
@timessix8434 3 ай бұрын
@@KrisRifa As long as it’s something you want and have under control - good for you!
@MrBobberone
@MrBobberone 3 ай бұрын
The EX90 it's an ugly car with atrocious and terrifying interiors submerged by an astronomic price. If there's something to cancel is this car from volvo's lineup
@Simplyveej
@Simplyveej 3 ай бұрын
Terrifying? Strange description.
@tesspika
@tesspika 3 ай бұрын
To get more views
@MotkiAlanTannen-ko7rk
@MotkiAlanTannen-ko7rk 3 ай бұрын
Will Volvo be heavily facelift their XC90? I have model year 23 with Google but the car feels very dated now compared to competitors, many moving over to Hyundai for the new Santa Fe… Volvo desperately need to save their gas Xc series
@mirandaev
@mirandaev 3 ай бұрын
I want a Zaptec GO homecharger.
@nunopinheiro596
@nunopinheiro596 3 ай бұрын
I want a Zaptec homecharger
@MotkiAlanTannen-ko7rk
@MotkiAlanTannen-ko7rk 3 ай бұрын
Chris is Mr Volvo…. If he is cancelling his EX90 Volvo are in big trouble…… Love my Xc90 with nappa leather and opening panoramic sunroof….. not available in the 100k EV, I’ve only ever driven Volvo cars, not anymore Hyundai Santa Fe Caligraphy on order…
@thomaswestin9987
@thomaswestin9987 3 ай бұрын
I want a Zaptec homecharger
@vegardlambertsen555
@vegardlambertsen555 2 ай бұрын
I want a Zaptec GO homecharger
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