Why I didn't Enjoy Lies of P

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Amrmans2

Amrmans2

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I might unlist this video later since I hate how my script flashes and I'm getting that changed soon. I hate my editing software and my computer. This videos is also pretty weak in general so it might happen sooner or later.
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I'm not saying Lies of P is a poorly designed game, I'm saying it's a game I didn't enjoy.
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@Izak_Klark
@Izak_Klark 6 ай бұрын
Fuoco: Sounds like the issue is because of how you chose to play it. Specifically talking about the standing and staring thing. Why not strafe, or outspace? There are advantages to other approaches besides the Perfect Guard (which is separate from the game's parry mechanic, which you also could have used). Black Rabbit Brotherhood: When another sibling jumps in, the oldest backs off except for the occasional lunge. You should hear his yell and his run before he gets there. It's still basically 1v1 if you play it right. Keep your distance from the eldest while another sibling is there and you'll be fine. Take them down and continue with the oldest. A "no-win" situation only happens if you have tunnel vision or if you psych yourself out. Stalkers fight like you. They're not "trash that the devs threw at you". They function the way P does with their movesets. Charged attacks are usually their Fury attacks, they have combos based on the weapon they use, etc. The only outlier I can really think of is The White Lady, Patricia. I don't think any of the weapons you have access to can do the combos she does. About Decay, if you have trouble avoiding Decay attacks, you can cover for that weakness with the P Organ. Increasing your resistance (which it seems like you didn't do), or durability buffs, or holding extra items to remove it. You have options. Even then, repairing your weapon takes almost no time. You do it in the same window you might use to heal or attack. Risk/reward. Also, 9:06 is kind of misinformed. You have tons of s, for basically your whole dodge. But... You can also sprint. It doesn't have to be a perfect guard. Also you might be mixing Decay and Corruption. Swamps give Corruption which only affects HP. Carcass enemies and Acid attacks cause Decay. 13:27 "lazy reskin" if you don't take into account everything going on with the story and the escalation of the stakes. Puppets and Carcasses combining to create something new is not a lazy reskin. Especially when there are plenty of new attacks to go with them. Black Rabbit Brotherhood 2: Reskin? They said you'd pay for what you did. It fits. Also, you only really have to worry about the active sibling, while the others stay back and use projectiles. Just keep moving. About their status effects, well... You should have enough experience by then to avoid them. And enough status resistance or items. And they do almost no damage because of their increased numbers. And all normal human enemies are EASILY staggered by any charge level of Fulminis. The game heavily favors the player here. 14:40 Spacing. Positioning. Spatial awareness. Laxasia: 18:15 You did that to yourself instead of backing off to see where she was. It wasn't cheap, you just didn't space enough to see her. Also you say you don't like how the majority of the damage you do is from reflecting the lightning instead of engaging with her moveset. This is the result of player backlash saying she has too much HP and speed and the lightning doesn't do enough. I say they just weren't willing to learn. Also you can just not do that. 19:32 You seem to have zero patience for status effects. How did you get hit with so much when you have so many options to just not deal with Disruption? In this fight especially, you can literally run to the side and they won't hit. Or you can use Absolute Defense. Or again, stack resistance (should have the amulet for that, or upgrade your P Organ). It sounds like you just got overwhelmed and fatigued and didn't have the right mindset for this game. A lot of people approach it like a Souls game. I really hope this doesn't come across as harsh. But there were solutions that you didn't seem to think of or know about. Like not knowing you could buy ampoules from Polendina until much later in the game is just wild to me. I admit, this game asks a lot from the player. And a lot of the enjoyment requires engaging properly with all of its systems and understanding what the game is going for. It can be much more complex than Souls in a way that isn't optional. But you know, good on you for giving it a try.
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@Izak_Klark I will leave an appropriate response to this tomorrow
@Izak_Klark
@Izak_Klark 6 ай бұрын
@@amrmans2 Thanks, I know it was a lot to read
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@Izak_Klark Fuoco: Fair point to make tbh but you can only alter your movement, the boss'moveset is still mid do the problem isn't completely solved but yeah your point is still valid. BRB: This boss sounds more fair since I never caught onto the yell telegraph. I still don't like the other 3 siblings moveset. I never liked any stalker fight but this does make them sound a bit more fair. I didn't know you could resist decay in your P Organ or resist it with items actually. Repairing your weapon does take awhile and with decay that full weapon durability bar is probably going to go down quick if your actually hitting and blocking. The timeframe you have to bring it back is barely enough to keep your weapon from breaking while you have decay, I'm confident it's an unnecessary part of the game but your alternatives do help. This came off more harsh than expected and I shouldn't have said lazy reskin since he's not necessarily lazy with a new design and moves. The active sibling is fine ig but paying attention to the other 2 while trying to parry a fast moveset with subtle animations and extremely tight timings was something I couldn't do, not to mention the, red guys pull in prosthetic which I still don't know how to avoid. I didn't upgrade fulminis at all and didn't seem useful by the time I got to the opera house so I discarded it thinking the startup time wouldn't be effective on anything in the game but I guess not. It is cool that this alternative helps tho. Fair point abt the laxasia arena, backing up could have probably allowed me to see her attack somewhat but only if she had done that extremely delayed attack. Had it been one of her quick lightning attacks I would not have been able to see the telegraph at all and with your poor movement every attempt I did have at trying to get out would get me hit since it was a diceroll on what the boss did. Good point about not reflecting the lightning, I could have just avoided them if i wanted to focus on the boss' combos I did not know there was an amulet. What's absolute defense? I am aware the disruption attacks are easily avoidable as I've seen from some YT videos but I was waaay too drained at that point to continue. Yeah this was the comment I was waiting for. I was like no way I was this wrong abt this game that everybody else loves. You don't come off harsh ans your comment is pretty respectful and civil and I really appreciate that since I was just expecting to get bombed w this video lol. Thanks for your time to tell me what I got wrong.
@rrarn-jk3ov
@rrarn-jk3ov 6 ай бұрын
A good description I heard of this game I've heard is that it's really good but it asks a lot of the players in terms of balancing between attacking, guarding, stauses, and weapon durability and for a lot of people this can be a complete turn off to them which is understandable. I feel like a lot of people got the impression that because it was so much like a FromSoft game that it would play a lot like one too when in reality its more complex, not necessarily in deisgn or bosses but rather some of the ways that they make players do. FromSoft doesn't really do much weapon durability stuff anymore and stauses really aren't an issue there either (except for lake of rot) and because Lies of P goes kinda heavy and managing stauses and weapon durability (as well as other things those are just good examples) most people treat them as an obstacle that blocked their enjoyment from the game. IronPineapple (souls youtuber) reviewed and said exactly how much he liked decay because of how it made you interact with durability and those mechanics that are either annoying or provide a nice charm to the game that sets it apart from other games in the genre. I recently played ER and as soon as I got done with that I booted up Lies of P because all of those things really give it a charm to me that ER doesn't do and gives me a valid reason to pick up one or another depending on how I'm feeling. I wouldn't say this game isn't worth it to most but rather that it asks a lot of you in terms of management that FromSoft games typically don't. Good video I liked it a lot.
@LiamBergelin
@LiamBergelin 6 ай бұрын
I really love this game. It has perfect combat for me cause I’m a sekiro player and the bosses and weapon variety is spot on. Despite this your points are valid and you don’t seem to trash on the game, it’s just simply not for you. However despite this i think that if there were to come a DLC, u should try it. Who knows, maybe they have changed some things that will make u like the game more. But anyways, good video and keep the shit going!
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@LiamBergelin Yeah I really tried not to call the game objectively bad or trash it or insult it since there was clearly hard work put into it and I tries to come w thr impression that it just wasn't for me. Glad we can have opposing viewpoints and you can be civil and support me. I have alot of respect for people like you. 🙏
@ookk5555
@ookk5555 4 ай бұрын
My man you summoned for half of the bosses, this was literally skill isue
@vascomeza9735
@vascomeza9735 6 ай бұрын
skill issue
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@vascomeza9735 You are actually right.
@RavenGamingOverLord
@RavenGamingOverLord 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. That’s totally very helpful to anyone who is playing soulslike games
@thatguy1729
@thatguy1729 6 ай бұрын
​@@RavenGamingOverLord Ti's a meme.
@RavenGamingOverLord
@RavenGamingOverLord 6 ай бұрын
@@thatguy1729 I wasn’t actually being serious
@brentontariocanada7935
@brentontariocanada7935 6 ай бұрын
U have to learn to PARRY !! Number 1 thing. And learn how to fight certain enemies. It takes time. But once it clicks it's so fun. Also find a weapon or 2 u really enjoy playing with..the move set. For me level 3 is where I started to fall in love with the game.
@kenjid.guzman1170
@kenjid.guzman1170 4 ай бұрын
Alright, so before I watch your video (cuz I'm a lazy fuck), I'mma just say that I enjoyed the crap out of Lies Of P. I had tons of fun with the game's mechanics, and I loved how similar it is to a FromSoft game while still doing just enough to stand out on its own. The parrying is my biggest issue with the game though, and I really don't think that a strict parry window was all that great of an idea for newer players. However, every other gameplay mechanic, such as the P-organs, the Weapon Assembly, Stagger System, Weapon Arts, Fun Boss weapons, etc, were all incredible additions that added so much fun for me. The status effects were annoying and another issue I had with the game (albeit minor), but I kinda liked that they played a bigger role instead of just feeling like more of an afterthought. Usually, FromSoft doesn't make it a big deal as much in any of their games these days. At least, not until you get to poison swamps, but I liked that Lies Of P opted to replace poison swamps with specific areas and enemies that relied on status effects instead. It actually made me extra cautious around them as well as more reliant on Purification items (which was more of a good thing tbh), and with the addition of the weapon durability system, it almost brought me back to the days of DS1 where the game was inconvenient at times, but for reasons that made sense instead of the game just trying to outright annoy you as much as possible. Speaking of trying to annoy you, I do admit that there were plenty of times the game did a good job at doing just that. And other than status effects like decay, the game also had plenty of delayed attacks that absolutely succeeded in annoying me for real. Lots of bosses and enemies in this game had delayed attacks, quite a few that were more unnatural than Elden Ring. Thankfully for me, I didn't find them extra annoying beyond the first few attempts, but it is definitely something Neowiz should look out for in their future games, as there were also a few times that delayed attacks just made these bosses look goofy as hell (Laxasia in her phase 1, for example). All in all, I loved it. It's funny because the game wasn't even that hard for me once I got past Scrapped Watchman. I just relied on plenty of armor upgrades and some damage reduction rings and the game was a breeze from there (even solo). To me, Lies Of P was even easier than Elden Ring and DS3 unironically.
@TheSeraphim17
@TheSeraphim17 6 ай бұрын
Ignorance is bliss
@robaconuhhh
@robaconuhhh 6 ай бұрын
As someone who loves this game still and spend quite some hours on the game. Most of yours points are justified and myself have similar struggles (rabbithood and green monster) however I do love the stalker’s fights as I am a huge fan against human enemies and some offers good ways to learn parries as it did help me learn more about rabbithood but the decay is super overwhelming. But even with the faults I enjoy the game due to all the bosses and learning to play it but perhaps one day when they make a sequel or DLC they can fix these problems in the future.
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm glad someone who enjoys the game can address my video in a civil and respectful way so thanks.
@EternalDeath4
@EternalDeath4 4 ай бұрын
I didnt see this mentioned in the comments, and if it was my bad. I struggled at finding timings to repair my weapon with the grinder, so i would just buy the consumables that fully repaired your weapon. Those items took about as long as a heal did, so i found that to be easier.
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 4 ай бұрын
@@EternalDeath4 Yeah I never found out those existed until like laxasia which kinda is my fault lol
@bombthing
@bombthing 6 ай бұрын
I unironically think lies of p is harder than all of the fromsoft games, I love Laxasia, Romeo, Nameless Puppet, Watchman, and Simon Manus, but most of the other bosses range from ok to terrible (black rabbit brotherhood is F- which is a shame because of how cool they are aesthetically and how much character they each have)
@randomgeneratedname6035
@randomgeneratedname6035 6 ай бұрын
why would you say the brotherhood is a f?
@bombthing
@bombthing 6 ай бұрын
@@randomgeneratedname6035 specifically the second fight with them, nothing fun about the 3 blokes pulling you around and ripping you to shreds together, and when the big bro wakes up its a total nightmare
@randomgeneratedname6035
@randomgeneratedname6035 6 ай бұрын
@bombthing hmm I wish you would have paid attention more, in both fights if you keep your distance you should only have one pursue you at a time and you will only have one attack you when they switch who is pursuing you, I figured it out after a few deaths and then you realise it's actually a fairly easy fight
@bombthing
@bombthing 6 ай бұрын
@@randomgeneratedname6035 I figured that out almost immediately so dont act like I wasnt paying attention, that fight took me more tries than any boss in the game so I tried basically every strategy. That does not make it a fair fight though at all, even if you keep your distance, yes only one will PRIMARILY attack you, but that doesnt save you from their ranged attacks, one of which has puppet strings which will yoink you right over to him and cause the other two to attack you while the main one is beating you up. Not to mention they switch which one the main one is before you have a chance to kill whichever one you're attacking, making it a 3v1 for a really long time if you are playing it safe. The arena is also fairly small do the distance keeping is hard to get. Also dont get me wrong, I absolutely love the game, I just hate that fight, if I do another playthrough I am 100% bringing a faster weapon next time because although the holy ark sword is great in literally every other fight it felt too slow to keep up with these people.
@Lunarinzo
@Lunarinzo 6 ай бұрын
icl lies of p ain’t sounding fun to me because my ideal fight is the tempo being so fast your brain has to instinctively adjust to the attacks (basically Sisyphus prime from ultrakill)
@gamer8622
@gamer8622 6 ай бұрын
You'll like nioh or devil may cry
@Pofr557
@Pofr557 5 ай бұрын
Play nioh 2
@B.Love88
@B.Love88 6 ай бұрын
I understand your issues. Hopefully one day you can enjoy this game! You should try thymesia!
@austin0_bandit05
@austin0_bandit05 6 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed LoP but you have some good points and a lot of your points are too subjective to really comment. 👍🏻 Tbh I think the game did the prosthetics better than even Sekiro. Most in Sekiro felt useless or just too contextual or niche to even bother with. And are totally overshadowed by the good ones like the shield hat (cant remember the name =P)
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@austin0_bandit05 I'm glad we can have opposing views but you can still be civil and respectful. And yeah 100% I agree the prosthetics in lies of P helped alot in levels and sometimes in bosses when in sekiro the only thing I really used was firecrackers to stun a couple annoying enemies
@Delirious127
@Delirious127 6 ай бұрын
The black rabbit brother hood second fight runback isn't long your just not taking thee right path before the phonebooth there is a ledge with a platform sticking out just land on that then drop to the floor and the entrance to the fight is right there the enemies don't pay attention to you but i have to agree with most of the video and disagree with others but nice video.
@Delirious127
@Delirious127 6 ай бұрын
But i have to disagree with nameless puppet as he was on of the greatest bosses i've ever fought in my first playthrough i could truly appreciate him as his damage was ok but a good fight nonetheless but in my second playthrough even at max hp i found myself getting two shotted and a lot of people wouldn't find that fun but I persisted and he's the only boss ive truly learned it took me two days to beat him and in the night between that i had his attack pattern so memorized that when i closed my eyes all i saw was me perfect parrying him and a hearing the perfect parry sound
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@Delirious127 I didn't know there was an alternative runback so thanks for that, and yeah nameless puppet is probably an amazing boss but I'm too pessimistic to fight him ig
@Delirious127
@Delirious127 6 ай бұрын
@@amrmans2 understandable
@averagesoul8256
@averagesoul8256 6 ай бұрын
love it or hate it i think lies of p basically resolved the souls problem when it comes to tools. they made every tool part of your core ki. buffing is a natural part of your kit, weapon arts are part of your kit, your arm is part of your kit etc. healing is done much better with the recovery mechanic. all the weapons felt viable since you could mix and match them. they evolved the combat past what from did and i think they should steal ideas from here as for decay, ye i dislike the mevhaniv too but its not as overused as you are implying , for exampole viktor the picture you showed doesnt use decay. the only bosses that do are the archbishop, brotherhood 2 and the swamp monster. 3 bosses in the entire game.and except fort eh brother hood fight which btw the worst of all time? i mean i hate it too but common godskin duo. but ye besides them all the decay attacks from the other 2 bosses are well telegraphed and can beparried which doesnt inflict you with the status i also have another question. how do you feel about malenia which also uses status effects and heals on hit? like sure nameless puppet heals but only once and only in first phase where hes squishy hp wise , also if you stay on his ass he wont heal, meanwhile malenia heals with every mistake you make . so do you like malenia?
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@averagesoul8256 I do agree that Lies of Ps combat, weapon system, healing, prosthetics etc are great innovations to the souls formula and elden ring could learn a couple things from it. The potential was super high which is why I was super dissapointed playing. Boss wise I don't have a big problem with decay or status infact I and laxasia have status effects but their mechanics heavily outshine that and don't need it to carry or be primal mechanics in their fight. It's just that when 50% of the levels have decay and the other 50% have status effects then I just get annoyed. Malenia is probably my favorite and the most fun boss to fight in the series for me but she is beyond unbalanced and not fair. You could put her at any tier F - S and I could agree. I am extremely biased toward this boss since I've put in way too much time into her fight. She uses status effects on 3 very obvious attacks with lots of windup but the rot effect doesn't really add that much to the fight since you should be doing the fight with extreme precision anyway. As the rot goddess I don't think the implementation of it was very good unlike mohg who's the lord of blood and does it very well. The bleed is much weaker than normal bleed and acts as a positioning tool rather than something to kill you. But the rot is apart of only 3 attacks so it basically doesn't matter to me but doesn't make the learning process or the boss better. Malenia healing is awful, it makes for an absolutely awful learning experience and doesn't make the fight more fun or fair. She shouldn't be able to heal and basically the only way I've gotten around it is doing near hitless runs, being extremely aggressive, or defensive. Moves like phantom spirits heal back like 1/6 of her entire healthbar which is ridiculous.
@averagesoul8256
@averagesoul8256 6 ай бұрын
@@amrmans2 thats the beauty of malenia shes either f or s . i do agree a lot of levels have enemies in lies of p that use decay but i never found those that annoying. but again like ye sure malenia only has 3 attacks that build rot but at least with the decay attackd you can deflect them and you build towards the posture break, for malenia you just have to dodge them . i do agree that lies of p requires too much precision on the first playtru.
@ZmondeChefKing
@ZmondeChefKing 2 ай бұрын
The issue is for me I want to beat the game I beat blasphemy (metroidvania) however I did not get permission from myself to keep playing this game, because it didn't really seem scary to me as much as plain creepy. I don't understand the point - are they puppets or are they clowns? Why does the clothes on Pinocchio stay perfect ( they are luxury ) the luxury is creeping me out - people are dead in the streets and I'm looks maxing
@ttvitsjordanx
@ttvitsjordanx 6 ай бұрын
I wasn’t gonna comment about this but since you brought it up so much, decay and weapon durability is literally so easy to counter with basically just one anti decay armor piece, that’s why nobody ever talks about it. I am glad that somebody else hates the brotherhood fights as much as I do too, god they’re so bad, it brings the whole game down but a grade point
@BBQcheese
@BBQcheese 6 ай бұрын
My guy @around 13:43 in your Feeble King response you go on a tirade about the many options the game gives you and about how not using them doesn't fit out his 'souls code of conduct' and say he's doing it to himself. Then @ around 5:00 in this video your complaint is that most players are bursting the enemies down with high damage/using throwables or playing passive to bait openings. You don't wanna play like this ... WTF is this blatant hypocrisy? So Feeble King should use the tools provided by the game even if they're not interesting or fun but that same logic doesn't apply to you in LoP? Btw, just so we're clear I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid. If you don't like using these tools line throwables that is fine. If the boss by extension isn't fun for you due to your chosen play style that is valid. In the same respect if FK wants to play ER with a mid roll melee only and finds it frustrating it's a bit strange to them demand he change his approach when you're unwilling to do the same. If you're going to demand other players change their approach before criticizing a game then hold yourself to the same standard. I could go on as there is an absurd amount of disagreements I have with this video and I find it strange that you're putting down someone else for doing the exact same thing with SotE that you've done here with LoP. Personally, imo LoP >>>> SotE
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@BBQcheese The difference is Feeble king refuses to use them and I have used them. If feeble king doesn't find alternatives fun (I doubt he's actually experimented and actually used these alternatives) then that's fine, I've used these alternatives and don't find them fun either. But it's a problem when you ignore these alternatives to state false information and lies to hundreds of thousands of people. Feeble king should use alternatives if he's having a miserable time, I used alternatives when I had a miserable time. I don't think I ever demanded that feeble king should change his playstyle in the SOTE video. If he's putting self imposed challenges by limiting his options as a chosen playstyle that's fine, if he didn't have an enjoyable time that's fine. but he cannot call the game bullshit, have a miserable time, BLAME THE GAME and lie about the combat system. Ad to your final point I mean, not really? He refused to learn, refuses to experiment, refused to research and refused alternatives as a self imposed way to create a bullshit narrative around sote. I experimented, googled , used many alternatives and did whatever I needed to in order to win.
@BBQcheese
@BBQcheese 6 ай бұрын
​@@amrmans2 So you used alternatives and still didn't enjoy the game and what are we to conclude here...? FK should have used alternatives because it improves the experience? That conclusion is clearly not evidenced by your own experience. Maybe LoP just isn't for you and maybe SotE just isn't for him. IDK, I really wasn't tryna be rude so hopefully it doesn't seem that way but I'm also not shy about calling people out and this entire video seems a bit hypocritical coming off the heels of your response. Just sayin...🙄 Anyway, it's just a game at the end of the day. If you don't like it that's fine I just hard disagree with most of what was said in this video.
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@BBQcheese Glad you can be mature enough to end this off since this is a pretty pointless argument. Also yeah you weren't rude at all so dw abt that. I don't think I'm being hypocritical and I could still argue here but there's no value for me to extract here so I'll just leave it at that. Have a good day or night dude 👋
@BBQcheese
@BBQcheese 6 ай бұрын
​@@amrmans2 Sorry I'm annoying
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@BBQcheese You're good dude. atleast you didnt call me some blind cultist and don't believe what I say lmao. Other commenter's and generally the whole side of people who argued against my feeble king video have made me realize that Interacting with negative youtube comments offers me no value so I'll probably stop.
@Retr0Duck
@Retr0Duck 6 ай бұрын
a lot of lies of p bosses are just okay. but i hope the dlc and sequal theyll learn from it and make more bosses like Lax and nameless puppet
@votricvetmic4515
@votricvetmic4515 6 ай бұрын
i love Lies of P and it's definitely my favorite non-fromsoftware soulslike but most of you what you said is true, decay is some serious bs for how common it is, most second phases of bosses suffer from godfrey syndrom of having too little health to really learn them and most bosses just don't have that "feel" to them as you said. That being said, i love it all the same despite it's flaws
@I_.waterlemon
@I_.waterlemon 6 ай бұрын
Boohoo 😭🎻
@otisvale9445
@otisvale9445 6 ай бұрын
Nice video will you make any more er dlc videos?
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@otisvale9445 Thanks, I am gonna make a rl1 video covering all the bosses but I'm conflicted if I also wanna make an elden ring/dlc review since that topics been done to death. I think I'll probably include the review of the base game and DLC on the rl1 vid which is gonna take awhile to do since this run is hard asf 👍
@benro6564
@benro6564 4 ай бұрын
I honestly think LoP is better than every from soft game but I understand that is a very unpopular take.
@brentontariocanada7935
@brentontariocanada7935 6 ай бұрын
I LOVED LIES OF P. I'm so pumped for the DLC and sequel. My favorite combat is sekiro then lies of p. U start as a puppet and as u grow more human u feel more agility, smooth and feel more like a human. Early on u feel a bit stiff and combat isn't as smooth in my opinion.
@MrJesusCrisp
@MrJesusCrisp 6 ай бұрын
My main issue with the game is that it throws a bit too much stuff at you but not everything gels together nicely. Overall it's still crazy derivative of the FromSoft games. The themes, story and aesthetics are basically Bioshock meets Dark Souls, the gameplay should emulate Bloodborne x Sekiro. It's just too much "been there done that" for me. Yes it is a a cool game overall, yes I like the parrying added to the core gameplay, yes I appreciate the effort with the upgrade, prosthetic and weapon crafting systems. But it's held back by wanting to be FromSoft more than creating its own identity and the last bit of polish. Not visually (and I'm sure nice graphics is enough to make people think this game is less janky than the FromSoft ones), but in terms of immersion, interesting level design, but especially camera angles and animations (they look good, but so often don't read well) during boss fights. After coming from the ER DLC, I did a second playthrough and I enjoyed having the parry to interact more with rather quick and aggressive bosses, which is something ER badly lacks. But also most of the bosses somehow didn't feel as rewarding to beat. About some of your comments: Gemini is a God of War Mimir ripoff, DS3 firekeeper also reacted to emotes, Melina had her own goals and even goes after you if you chose the Frenzied Flame ending (although in lore only). Since you haven't finished Sekiro, maybe reconsider the bit about Sophia and how innovative the ransacking of Hotel Krat really is until you're through with it. Again, it's not a lot that hasn't been done already. I disagree about the status effects, those were never such a big deal for me, especially if using the right armor/equipment for the level or boss. Also had no issue finding sufficient ampules just lying around in levels or having them dropped by mobs. Also didn't care for weapon durability, but it didn't really break the game for me as sharpening once or twice was easy enough in most boss battles. Kind of would have made more sense to me if it was more viable to equip 2 or more weapons or build weapons that have blades you can swap out on the fly. At least outside of NG+ adding a second weapon will mean you need to make compromises on your damage negation or fat roll, especially with some legion arms also being rather heavy. Also, is a bit of your video missing or what's up with skipping King of Puppets/Romeo? For nameless puppet (and most of the game), solely based on your footage, have you ever thought about maybe trying a different weapon? I only used that Azure Dragon Crest Glaive at the very beginning with upgrades but felt like it was very underwhelming and broke easily. There's a bunch of builds out there that might fit better for your play style or make it easier to for example just block most incoming damage instead of trying to parry everything if that is your issue. On my first playthrough the police baton handle with the bone cutting saw blade carried me through the game with heavy but relatively swift damage, on my second I went with the wintry rapier handle and greatsword of fate blade did the trick with quick but still heavy damage. In general I feel like it's easier to block and rally back your health in most cases than trying to parry everything.
@denberzfan5759
@denberzfan5759 6 ай бұрын
Only thing I didn't rly like is the player's movement speed and dodge speed. Much too slow and you dont cover enough ground. Areas are sick, bosses for the most part are really good, atmosphere is good, enemies are unique for the most part in every area. Awesome game. 9/10. If you say its bad you're dumb. PS final area kinda sucked, too many reused enemies and no atmosphere with the music.
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@denberzfan5759 Yeah the movement for the player character is oddly stagnant and feels like your partially inflicted with polio from the neck down bro
@Uprush.
@Uprush. 6 ай бұрын
I think area 1-8 is my favorite part of any souls game, but after that it gets significantly worse imo so I just make another character :)
@draktandragon1939
@draktandragon1939 6 ай бұрын
I actually thought lies of p was an easier game than elden ring. Of course I use no summons.
@tapthelvete
@tapthelvete 6 ай бұрын
Lies of P is to Bloodborne as Dark Souls 2 is to Dark Souls 1.
@Cassu__
@Cassu__ 6 ай бұрын
i can't get parade master past half hp so i just quit. i feel like i wasted money
@Nabroskies
@Nabroskies 6 ай бұрын
The bosses are way funner with the specter especially the black rabbit brother part 1 and 2
@DZB666
@DZB666 6 ай бұрын
I agree man struggling to achieve what fromsoft was doing over a decade ago 😂
@MrErdtree
@MrErdtree 6 ай бұрын
Bloodborne is my home turf when it comes to souls games, so like you I was super excited, but the bosses feel so slow. Bloodborne is almost as much of a boss rush as DS3 so… mleh. (I like these games for more than just the boss fights but you’ve gotta admit it’s a big appeal)
@Redactedlllllllllllll
@Redactedlllllllllllll 6 ай бұрын
Got bored with the gameplay, but i played this after elden ring. I think this game was for a different target market.
@brentontariocanada7935
@brentontariocanada7935 6 ай бұрын
U need to finish sekiro! That Game is amazing.
@joelroman9819
@joelroman9819 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t like it either, so much unfair bs, the mobs and platforming literally ruined it for me. I did enjoy the bosses, didn’t finish it though.
@FoolVII
@FoolVII 6 ай бұрын
I understand where you are coming from but i enjoyed it it's like sekiro and bloodborne but it has some issues and things i hate but nothing that will make me hate it I only played it for 55 hours and didn't complete the 2nd playthrough
@FoolVII
@FoolVII 6 ай бұрын
One more thing i played every fromsoft game before starting lies of p To 100% and nioh 1 and 2 ...not that it matters
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@FoolVII Glad we can respectfully disagree, I appreciate you being civil abt this 🙏
@ParasiticPsycho
@ParasiticPsycho 6 ай бұрын
I was looking into getting this, but now I think I'll wait till price drops or goes on sale instead. Thanks for the honest breakdown of your issues.
@thatguy1729
@thatguy1729 6 ай бұрын
Lies of P is incredibly good. My favorite "souls like". Most of his critiques, especially surrounding status effects, are easy to counter. Purification ampules are available very early. You get armor specific to each effect. The p organ also has a ton of upgrades for this issue.
@harvacado292
@harvacado292 6 ай бұрын
This and the feeble king video made me interested in your content. keep up the good work! 😊
@amrmans2
@amrmans2 6 ай бұрын
@@harvacado292 Thank You so much for the support. It truly gives me the motivation to keep going, I'll try my best to create better content in the future 🙏
@davidhogins431
@davidhogins431 6 ай бұрын
Code vein is better than Lies of P
@JonathanMarshallbonez
@JonathanMarshallbonez 6 ай бұрын
Lies of P was too linear, flat level design and easily forgettable. Movement and combat felt sloppy with forgettable enemies/bosses. No multiplayer.. eh yeah. Beat it once and never touching it again. People simp hard on it can have it.
@shurngirdleh3936
@shurngirdleh3936 6 ай бұрын
Funny how none of that is true 😂 literally everyone praised the movement, level design and combat you definitely had a skill issue
@JonathanMarshallbonez
@JonathanMarshallbonez 6 ай бұрын
@@shurngirdleh3936 plenty of people share my opinion. You sound like a simp issue.
@benro6564
@benro6564 4 ай бұрын
I honestly think LoP is better than every from soft game but I understand that is a very unpopular take.
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