Why I DON'T Like DC Multiverse Figures!!!

#dcmultiverse #marvelegends #actionfiguresforadultcollectors
In this video I break down why DC Multiverse is the one line that I collect that I'm not that crazy about. Although some of my favorite characters are from DC, I still feel that some other figures are better than the ones that come out now. Let me know how you feel in the comments...

[@FancyxToast]

I’ve had some dc figures that I love. But every single time I buy a dc figure, I always fear moving the joints. The QC issues are my biggest problem with them. I can look past cheap plastic, ugly joints, and lack of accessories, but when my figures are literally falling apart 2 seconds after unboxing them…nah what are we doing. The Robert Pattinson Batman was a figure I HUNTED for at the time. Only to come across him a month later, open him, and have his arm not want to stay in its joint. Even some spawn figures. Marvel legends may have gummy joints, but I’ve never had them fall apart as many times as I have with multiverse Edit: came back to talk some more shit. The first time I bought a whole dc wave was the dc metal wave with the darkfather BAF. I found all the figures clearanced at a game stop and I was like why not. That BAF was the cheapest feeling figure I’ve ever put together and some pieces just refused to stay on. I ended up selling it along with the wave to someone who really wanted them. I was so disappointed and it really turned me off from building any others

[@Marvelfan-b9e]

I could not have said it better

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Imagine if you would have paid full price for that wave, you would have really been upset. I feel like it's that hardness in the plastic that makes them faulty. That's probably why they had a hard time clicking together.

[@JayWoods483]

Cleva thanks a lot for your sincere thoughts on the DC line. I do not collect DC, and like yourself ML is my thing. Avoiding any sort of comparison between the two lines is too difficult because each has its own indiscretions. Primarily, the scale is all wrong and I am beginning to think Todd's ego got in the way to make that decision to go 7 inches. The marketplace has determined that it was a bad idea. Thanks again man, great video - keep em coming.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you, I feel the same way. The scaling is what bothers me the most I think.

[@mrmola3295]

The marketplace has determined going for 7 inch scale was a bad idea? No no no. Totally wrong there im afraid. If he did 6 inch, people wouldnt have bought mcfarlane cause they would already have their mafex, mezco, icons etc. Of course he went 7 inch to get people to start new collections. Thats how buisness works. At 7 inch scale, he has no direct competition. 7 inch scale was an inspired decision from a money making perspective.

[@johnstevens8763]

The sculpts on DC Multiverse on the whole blow Marvel Legends out of the water. After Hasbro got license after Toy Biz they were more worried about churning out product that actually making sure product was good.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

DC excels in sculpts! I will give you that. Too bad these are figures and not statues. DC Multiverse is more of an Action Statue line than an Action figure line. That can be the halfway point for us right there. Also... This was DC Multiverse vs past DC for me.

[@arthurwilliamsiii8957]

Well said. I feel the same way. I'm very selective when it comes to DC multiverse. Todd's figures for the most part, look like melted wax. 90% of the characters he makes look nothing like the pictures on the package. You would think a comic book artist would be hands on with accuracy and detail when it comes to comic action figures. I would love jada toys getting the DC license.

[@glennjthompson332]

Great idea!🤔

[@glennjthompson332]

If MacFarlane and Jada toys can work together?😅(question)🤔

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That's a great way to put it... melted wax. I couldn't find the words for it.

[@lcrawfo2]

McFarlane figures are really hit and miss. Some of his figures have amazing looking sculpts and are a great value for the price point. Other figures look horrendous in terms of proportions and have nightmare inducing face sculpts. I've also noticed that a lot of his figures have almost no muscular definition in the arms and legs, which is odd in a superhero line. Another problem is the plastic used in the accessories like weapons is incredibly cheap and can't even hold it's shape. Look at the hammer that came with Steel for example, he can't even hold it without it bending because it's so cheaply made.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

It really is a hit or miss thing with that line... for sure!

[@lfabio.n]

I agree with most of the points on the video and in this comment, but one thing I don't know what to think about is the muscle definition. What was and perhaps still is portrayed in comic books is not realistic, even in an undressed body. I think the proportions really are off in some cases and extremely ridiculous in others, but that's something only expensive figures get right most of the time not always, apart from Hot Toys. I think McFarlane's ups are more constant than Hasbro's and his downs are not as low and constant as them.

[@glennjthompson332]

Mcfarlane is moving into (2025) for new stuff, quality control fixes,and changes.🤔

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Let's see how it goes...

[@VisualMediaConcepts]

Completely agree with all those reasons. One thing that I just can't unsee are the proportions, especially the HUGE hands. They're almost as large or larger than the head sculpt.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

My thoughts exactly!

[@marvelingabout8240]

Best line for messing up a figure that could have been great. Supes with the one smiling face and oversized hands comed to mind.

[@Grotesque_denizen]

The joints have detents on them, and the figures aren't hard plastic they are actually a softer plastic. There's nothing wrong with the plastic they are some of the sturdiest figures I've handled. As for scale, well for a start the Darkseid there is infamously undersized, and the DC Icons Superman and Cyborg are a smaller scale than the dcuc figures. McFarlane make figures in 7 inch scale, figures they were making before DC Multiverse like Mortal Kombat and Fortnite for example. So why would they make their DC figures out of scale with the other figures they make? That doesn't make any sense.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

True points... I do feel that Darkseid and Cyborg may be undersized but the whole line kinda was. That aside, they still flowed better when you wanted to mix them in. It didn't feel like David and Goliath too much. I'm not sure about sturdier. Harder would be more on point, I'm sorry. Please take one of each figure and feel them both with your eyes closed. Dc Multiverse is harder and rougher. They are not smooth at all. Mortal Kombat and Fortnite are independent properties that you would keep alone on a separate shelf. You would have to know or at least assume that people would want to mix DC and Marvel. You disagree? Dc was also already being done and Todd stepped in and picked up the mantle. Again, he knew what he was getting into. DC is not his property, having this mentality for Spawn is more than appropriate. Applying it to a whole industry that is not yours... idk. If you ask me he kind of disrupted it. How was Mortal Kombat and Fortnite disrupted like this?

[@WompaStompaCyn]

I tried really hard to like Mcfarlane but I ultimately wound up just writing them off recently. The scaling is a problem. Partly because they're 7 inches, and I like to mix lines and who tf else is making 7 inch figures? But more because the scaling isn't even consistent with itself. You can buy two different figures of the same character and they'll be different sizes. Though tbf I think they've gotten better with this lately. There's the ridiculous proportions. I think some characters look fine with long ass legs, but most of them just look freakish. I feel like they just stretch the legs out to artificially hit the 7 inch goal instead of actually designing 7 inch scale figures. Ben Affleck's face, or lack thereof. I think the articulation is generally... fine for $22. Could be better but it's fine. I appreciate the toe joint. The weird obsession with not having thigh swivel is an unnecessary hinderance, and the butterfly joints tend to be useless and need improvements. I hate visible pins. They make the figure look cheap. Weird accessory restrictions resulting in gun characters with no guns. The excessive amount of limited edition figures. There's no valid reason for WONDER WOMAN in her normal ass costume to be a limited figure. The whole "collector's edition" line just feels like a cop out to jack up the price and make fewer figures of characters that aren't Batman. And they throw all the women in there because Todd hates making them, but he also hates that people want them and call him sexist for not making them. So this is his version of malicious compliance.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Couldn't have said it better myself! I never thought about those legs until you said it. I feel the same way now. Even 6 1/2 would fix a lot of them.

[@marvelingabout8240]

Don't think it is the sculpt itself but rather the long joints used and not reducing the body to compensate for that. Reuse and wrong bucks are way to frequently used. Kid Flash is way too big for example as with females. Bad choices for Starfire not to have more hands or atleast another head to show the hair flow.

[@micklestapler4]

The biggest thing I cant over look is McFarlane's ankle joints and no accessories. They can't stand in any kind of pose without that damn circle stand .

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That's what I meant when I was talking about standing poses only, and even then you still need the base most of the time.

[@fredthetank8386]

Platinums mcfarlane does are very annoying. All the obscure characters (the ones I want) are mostly behind the $30 collectors edition Mcfarlane line and that’s too much money to consistently spend on figures to build out my dc ranks. The scale should have been 6 inch instead of 7. It’s stopped me from buying characters that I want because they won’t fit in with my 6 inch figures and I don’t want to start all over again like you said. I pick and choose with mcfarlane figures and don’t get that many.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you for your comment my brotha! That's exactly how I feel right there!

[@davido.p.9850]

DC Multiverse figures are the only figures I've ever bought that I absolutely had to get rid of in my collection. They make statues and then put joints in them. It just doesn't work when they do that, they're looking the wrong way most of the time and the joint breaks don't look nice at all.

[@MaximumWarp2099]

Statues with joints. I’ve had the same thought and couldn’t agree more.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Action Statues!!!

[@royscustomfigures]

Thats a good description. I thought my figures were too new to pose, with stiff articulation etc.. But they dont pose for ....

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That's exactly the point that I was trying to make. I'm not hating at all, but this seems so obvious to me.

[@mattsands161]

I love the DC Multiverse line, even with it’s faults. They have a lot more shelf presence than Marvel Legends imo, and the figures feel more unique to each other than Legends do. I like the larger scale and I like how the characters have unique physiques and sculpted details. Mcfarlane definitely puts out a lot of figures I don’t like, especially when you factor in all the junk repaints and variants. So cherry picking the line is a necessity. But Mcfarlane puts out so much product that I never feel like there’s a shortage of cool stuff coming out. I have never had a problem with the way the figures articulate either. The inconsistent scaling is my biggest issue with the line, and the Green Arrow and Martian Manhunter figures you showcased are two of the worst offenders in that regard.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I'm not against DC at all. I just wish he was more consistent with a lot of things. 2024 has seen some changes that I've very happy about. I think DC Multiverse excels with bigger figures. That new Darkseid looks great and so do Doomsday and Swamp Thing, Bane looks official too. You just have to really cherry pick them. Once we get to smaller characters and females I feel like it all starts to fall apart though. No line is 100% perfect. I could actually do a video like this for any line but Multiverse stands out the most to me in my collection for the reasons that I stated. Thank you for commenting! I appreciate all of the feedback and thoughts from the community!

[@luckypapi87]

Well also, it's the factory company that Todd has decided to do business with. I don't think Todd himself really is dealing with them, and based off of Nerdzoic's issues with his management people he's had, I don't think Mcfarlane Toys as a company is ran really well. So the quality control isn't there.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I forgot all about that Nerdzoic disappointment episode! IDK Todd needs to come to the office more often I guess.....

[@luckypapi87]

@@ClevasMultiverse facts

[@marvelingabout8240]

DCC Icons were excellent. Just needed some more head range. People were complaining about the size and that was mainly why that line was discontinued. DCM started ugly then made improvements the following year. Plastic was good, like Bizarro but started to reuse way too much and plastic seemed to change. Feel it with newer ones. These have articulation but the balance sucks. Legends, even gummy ones are way easier to balance a pose and don't look as off when dynamic.

[@faynarawn4164]

I mostly collect 6-inch (Marvel, G.I. Joe, Star Wars), but I also collect a few 7-inch lines (Spawn, Masterverse, NECA Gargoyles, Cosmic Legions), so the scale doesn't bother me. But I am very selective of which DC figures I collect, basically just Batman-related characters, and then only from stories that I'm especially nostalgic for. So I've mostly got characters from the The Dark Knight Returns, Knightfall, and the Arkham video games. From the ones I have, I think the figures are slowly improving. The Knightfall Batman has pretty good proportions and articulation, and some of the new figures have cloth capes with wires inside for posing. I feel McFarlane has yet to make my ideal Batman figure, but I've seen some pretty good kitbashed ones online (arms from this figure, belt from that figure, etc.) and I'm thinking about trying to assemble one myself.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Gargoyles make total sense being bigger because They're supposed to be bigger than people. I've always loved Gargoyles! Neca figures too although sometimes they fall apart lol. I do collect DC when I have the chance. Just like you it has to be nostalgic. I'm not gonna buy "kitchen Batman" or whatever just because, that's not me. I have that knightfall batman too and I think it's one of the best ones out (yet still not perfect). They are improving but the scale is still off. One area that I think they excel at is bigger figures. I'm thinking like Bane and them. Those come off excellent to me.

[@NightCrawlerKV]

The multiverse figures do look pretty good standing up in statue poses. HOWEVER they can barely ever stand up and stay up without falling. For some reason 99 percent of my multiverse figures have messed up ankle joints.

[@PunisherDC]

There are valid points, and some valid critiques that can be thrown at Legends and other retail lines, even the old DC lines especially the Mattel DC Multiverse line. There has been some great stuff this year with the wired capes, vehicles, legacy movies figures, and collector waves have been getting really good to me. For me, not many misses and I've never had a figure break due to moving it around it. I probably have over 200 DCM figures. I guess its preference but I use to be big into Marvel legend but once you get into the 100 figures range 80% of them are the same old plain bodies. McFarlane reuses too and has mostly moved away from new highly detailed bodies that he did the first two years. But its still a better experience to me than Legends or most retail toy lines. But for an example of a new one check out Cyborg Superman. The detail is amazing but the down side is to get that detail you get a version that most people wouldn't have preferred. Legends in general go better together and are designed that way, but DC Multiverse under McFarlane tries to make each individual stand out in some way.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I want that Cyborg Superman so bad, he's one of the ones that I'm trying to get my hands on. Him and Steel! I will 100% agree that this year has been the best for DC Multiverse. The problem is that it's 2024 and all of these figures are like impossible to find so people haven't experienced them like that. I still wanna keep my old figures too.

[@baroymorga6923]

I feel you bruh. I really wanted the line to be good because I like DC. But it sucks so much. My reasons I don't like mcfarlane multiverse are: 1. Scaling within the line is all over the place 2. Proportions are so bad 3. Engineering of joints feels rushed and lazy 4. Face sculpts are ugly 5. Mcfarlane doesn't listen to us collectors

[@ClevasMultiverse]

This is almost exactly how I feel right here. For a long time I thought I was on an island by myself with this. It's refreshing to know that I'm not alone on this topic. Thank you!

[@Parishdollaz0419]

Love your content bro Been watching and hitting the like button and sharing for 5 months! With that being said, I agree 100% with your points, and this is coming from the biggest BATMAN fan! The only thing I disagree with is Batman does have Many official costumes! From the movies, to the games, to the comics, he has just as many classic suits in spider imo. But I do HEAVILY AGREE WITH, Todd has made WAAYYYY too many Batman IMO!! Now what I don’t like that I wish you would’ve mentioned was the platinum chase grey figures, The all gold special edition figures, The frostbite edition figures, and last but not least, those damn JOKERIZED FIGURES!! Peace and love bro!

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you for your comment my brotha! I appreciate you sticking with me this long. When it comes to Batman I think we are both right. He does have a lot of pivitol costumes, but those are not the ones that Todd is putting out (all the time). Ok, so when I think pivitol I'm thinking. All Black, Dark Knight Rises, Blue and Grey, Black with Yellow Emblem, Batman Beyond, costumes like that. Those are costumes I can see people gravitating towards. DC Multiverse at this point is putting Hugo Strange as Batman. (is that just knightfall Batman with a different head sculpt?) The one I was pointing to was from the Frost King wave (wack). Dark Detective Batman is trash to me. I don't really care for that Superman/Batman Hybrid either. He's deff getting his money back from his Batman Tooling lol. I wanted to touch on that Gold/Platinum chase part but Marvel kinda does that too and just calls them store exclusives and so do other brands. I felt like that was industry wide and not specific to DC, but you are 100% right with that too. They should all just do away with that, figures are hard enough to find as it is I think.

[@andrepaul3483]

I stopped collecting DC figs after getting into the SH Figuarts Naruto line. Mainly because I already have the best versions of my favourite DC characters thanks to DC Icons. Also, the other problem that I encountered with McFarlane is his figs don't even look good with one-another. It's wild.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you for that because I feel the same way. When you feel like you already have the best version of the figure why would you let yours go? I feel like Multiverse is hit or miss but way more miss.

[@paulwilliams2024]

I gotta disagree DC multiverse figures are some of my favourite figures on the market . Then being said some of your points are valid tho .

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I mean it's hit or miss with them. It's all preference at the end of the day. They do have some good figures but for me they're at the bottom of my list.

[@harryrao4296]

dc multiverse can simply not compete with marvel legends marvel pretty constant state of release since 2002 with taking break for 2 years in 2010 and 2011 they have developed more dedicated following while dc switched from dcu to icons to mcfarlene/multiverse @paulwillams2024

[@itachi-kz2nb]

Because you like them? Or because there the cheapest dc figures

[@paulwilliams2024]

@@itachi-kz2nb I actually like them .

[@Jello-h7y]

Bro I got a DC multiverse flash and his leg was so big his leg joint curved and so one of his leg was normal and one was lower and it only 4 months and a friend got it for me and then two years later I got batman with a wire cape but when I got it out of the box the cap and it had no wire in it am never going to buy DC toys never again 🤬

[@robertfalcone3025]

I'm also a Marvel Legends collector as well.. the ONLY Todd McFarlane DC Multiverse i own is Lobo...& I agree 💯 that DC Multiverse have almost ZERO articulation Anyways great video brother.. looking forward to more of your Marvel Legends reviews 👑

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That Lobo is one of the ones to get. Thank you my brotha!

[@the4thtribe709]

I 100% support this message DC Multiverse is just so hit and miss it’s frustrating. Can I please get a decent Lobo. The 7 inch scale sucks. Yes, I would love to do crossovers with my marvel legends, but I can’t because they don’t fit in. And I know other collectors feel my pain on that.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you for your support my brotha! That's my biggest gripe with the line right there. You have to separate them or start over.

[@metalhead1373]

Lately I’m about to give up on Mcfarlane, the body reuse is just getting out of hand, you literally get the same body with a different head, one example is the Batman nightfall blue and gray, we all like that figure and after that they put out like another 10 Batman’s with the same body 😅

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Talk about getting your money back for your tooling right?

[@bkr8932]

I’m currently living in the UK and I can feel your Batman heat alllll the way over here 😆

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Ha Ha Ha, the truth spreads like the sun my brotha!

[@bkr8932]

@@ClevasMultiverse I agree with nearly all your points, I collect McFarlane as it was the DC line available when I started seriously collecting. I prefer 6 inch and have a couple of the icon/collectibles line but since there won’t be new ones I’m here for the 7inch…until I’m not. Appreciate your voice in the community my man

[@Marvelfan-b9e]

What’s up my brotha so I collect dc multiverse here and there but I just stopped it was just not worth it to be honest but the one thing they do that interest me is like swap thing and man bat there huge

[@ClevasMultiverse]

DC does have some good points, I think that they're bigger figures come out the best. Like Bane or Man Bat or Doomsday, swamp thing too. Those figures really stand out to me. Having the BAF at four figures is also good part to them. They don't stretch it out to 6.

[@JustinTyme33]

The only multiverse build a figure I have put together is the Mr Freeze but I did want to put together the Plastic Man and wasn’t able to.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I want plastic man but I don't want to put him together.... I just want plastic man! I think he's a go right there!

[@scolioreset]

I’ve dabbled into DC Multiverse figures only three times. Arkham Knight Scarecrow, Comedian Joker and Arkham Knight Batman. They all had different pros and cons. In retrospective, I don’t like the figures anymore. The extreme liberties the company takes with the source material is staggering. I try to believe that they do have access to it but that doesn’t seem to be the case because even in neutral pose, they mostly all look like ultra-buffed cosplayers… not to mention the sabotage that was the DC Direct reissue for the Animated Series. Jada Toys have proven with the Street Fighter line that you can have good sculpt and great articulation at a respectable price point. Their Chun-Li is INCREDIBLE! Again, same price range as DC Multiverse, Black Series and Marvel Legends. His comments about female figures made me stop buying his products entirely, especially since my “holy grail” is the figma Dread Samus… But I can’t have a decent looking Wonder Woman because the stock is all over the place or nonexistent due to poor distribution and scalpers (creating a false demand) and she doesn’t scale because 7”.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

You aren't the first to mention that Jada Toys should take over the line. It's funny because I was thinking about making a shelf for them (Street Fighter) and going that direction. Maybe the Toy Gods are listening and something like that would happen!

[@plasticpeeps7322]

I can work with Todd's figs, but what irks me is the ugly squared off joints at the elbows and knees. That classic wonder woman is a good example. Beautiful when the legs are straightened, but hideous once they bend.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That's exactly what I was trying to show when I was bending the knees. They just look all over the place.

[@secondborn72]

I thought it was just me when I noticed the plastic was different . It’s not as solid as it used to be .

[@ClevasMultiverse]

It's not just you my brotha, I've been feeling that way for years!

[@antoniocdechavez4409]

Yup. Mcfarlane is weird and arrogant. Not only does he not listen to constructive criticisms, he doesn't really care. For someone who supposedly took over Mattel's 6 inch line, he gave us the 7 inch line that was the scale of the now defunct DC Direct/Collectibles. We lost the DC Multiverse 6 inch line.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Yeah its the arrogance for me, that's at the top of the list for me. I would understand if it was Spawn since that's his baby but DC is not his so he shouldn't be so touchy about it.

[@antoniocdechavez4409]

@@ClevasMultiverse That's the reason I only buy a select few from his releases, and am starting to distance myself from the most of the crap he's been putting out.

[@TheToyOdyssey]

DC Icons was the best DC line but it had issues too. They were way too small. And, they had terrible ab crunches and no thigh swivel.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Very true, no line is perfect. All things considered I think I still prefer Icons.

[@makisonjf1]

I’ll have to agree to disagree with a lot of your points, but the one that I disagree most with is slapping Todd for making too many Batman figures but then making excuses for the number of Spider-Man figures we get. Companies make the most variants of the characters that sell the most figures, and that helps fund the rest of the line. Marvel releases five Iron Man and five Spider-Man figures for every single secondary character. So the “Todd releases too many Batman figures” argument is invalid if you’re accepting of Marvel’s practices.

[@SymbiSpidey]

Legends does release A LOT of Spider-Men, but it's balanced out by the fact that they also release a lot of other characters too. We have a bunch of completed teams in the Legends line, whereas it took forever for us to just get a basic Justice League lineup.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Oh trust me, I can do this same video with Marvel. I just started with DC because I feel more strongly with them. I will give it to you 100% that Marvel does the same thing, I think it's just less apparent because they spread it out a little bit around 5/6 characters. The one that gets me the most upset I think is Iron Man. All the Iron Man variants get me sick. Most of the time I can't even tell what the difference is without a microscope and the accessories are always almost the same. Wolverine would be second on that list because all of his costumes are not iconic. (Just because he wore them doesn't make them Iconic) They burn him a little too much, especially this year. Spider-Man is a little more forgiving because even in the game you wanna go through a lot of the costumes. Although I don't want all of them irl either. He has a lot of costumes that I can see people wanting. I think with Batman I should have been more descriptive. I get a little upset because I feel like Todd just makes up variants that I've never seen or makes you buy the same fig twice for a head sculpt. Maybe if he spread it out to include more Justice League members it wouldn't stand out so much, especially Wonder Woman.

[@FridayOneEye]

Man, i want to like DC Multiverse. DC is my pick for superheroes in general, but i have most of the same problems you do. The 7 inch scale isn't even a big deal for me since i have a lot of NECA and Masterverse stuff they'd go well with! But the quality of the figures just isn't there most of the time. The plastic feels weird, the articulation is rough, and the designs almost always have basic mistakes in them compared to the source material. Be better Todd!

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Well said!!! Exactly how I feel!

[@JudgementalGoat]

Being mature is realizing Mattel was doing a much better job with DC figures than McFarlane.

[@Mr767267]

Just landed onto this video, not sure how the algo choose it! You can try Mafex DC figures, because I have never touched anything post DC Collectibles was shut.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I think I'm about to go that direction right there because I want to get more DC but the consistency just isn't there with Multiverse. I might start with the Justice League and then see where I go from there.

[@Mr767267]

@@ClevasMultiverse cool, pick the latest version at any cost. Older versions have a lot of qc issues.

[@jamestolentino5436]

We feel you brother. I'm a big DC fan and I also collect DC figures but I only have like 10% of the DC Multiverse in my shelf because of some of the reasons you have given like scale issues, quality of the figures, and character selections. They gotta do better moving forward.

[@harryrao4296]

do you think marvel or dc figures sell better @jamestolentino5436?

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That's my issue with them. My DC collection would be so much bigger if this wasn't the case.

[@Ravenprime7]

You make some very valid points and like you I don't collect entire waves of Multiverse figures. MacFarlane does seem very cocky in his attitude towards collector's questions. If he had his way all of the DC figures would be like his 1st couple of years of Spawn figures (slightly articulated statues). Maybe an ab crunch here or there and maybe some thigh swivels, but he claims that it will break up the presentation/silhouette.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Exactly, that attitude is the worst. I hate when he's quick to tell people what time it is when we are the ones that dictate the market. That's exactly what he should call them... action statues. That's the perfect term for them.

[@teamhonzilla]

Im a big DC fan especially Superman and Superman villains and so far Mcfarlane is not good with Superman figure It’s sad

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That's one of my issues with him. Superman should be at the top of his list!

[@scorpfpv8647]

I get McFarlane figures rarely they have gotten a little better then when they first came out but yea a 100% agree on the scaling robin shouldn’t look like he’s 7ft tall next to Batman

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I want a Robin so bad but that's my exact issue! He's too tall, and he'll be almost double my Superman, it just doesn't make sense.

[@elchampgarcia315]

I'm actually a huge DC fan. Batman is my favorite. But I decided to collect Marvel Legends instead. I feel Marvel has more variety, and the figures are better quality.

[@Reach008]

1) I disagree with the joints. Comparing them to DCUC was a mistake because as you said, they barely have joints. Multiverse, depending on the figure, can pose extremely well especially the newer ones. 2) I’m not defending McFarlane here I’m just stating that the figures are molded in the paint. But it makes me miss DCC so much because paint was where they excelled at when it came to those CW figures or Icons. But I don’t miss that clear plastic. Yiu complain about McFarlane’s plastic, look up DCC’s clear plastic issue. That was insane. 3) I can’t argue with Batman, I 100% agree here. And what’s worse is they’re making more characters but they’re exclusives or chases!! 4) McFarlane has always made 7 inch or 5 inch scale. When you brought up the line up and said Batman was big, that’s a DCUC Batman you had that for whatever reason, Mattel made 7 inches. Also that DCUC Darksied is still ass. But what I will say even within the Multiverse line, they can’t stay consistent with their own scale, but making the figures 7 inches is not an issue, it’s just a preference. I mainly collect important which does 5-6 inches, but I love 7 inch scale like NECA and DCC used to do. 5) Todd for sure is a hot head, but someone at McFarlane IS listening. They tried side eye, everyone complained, they stopped. People wanted alternate hands, not they come with them. They wanted more alternate heads, when the flashpoint flash came out they said that’s how it’s going to be now without having to be a whole new figure for just a head. People wanted cloth cape, now we get cloth cape WITH wires! Todd might not listen, but someone sure is to do all these changes!! I’m not here to change minds and I’m not a multiverse fan boy, I personally stopped collecting after Grayson batman and moved onto strictly imports. I’m just a guy who loves dc figures and been on the wild roll coaster of the inconsistency as you guys. PS; the McFarlane release of the animated series is ASS. They’re so shiny compared to the original DCC and it’s so frustrating!!

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Very true points! It's all perspective and preference at the end of the day. I do collect DC Multiverse but just sparingly. DC Multiverse does have good points to them but I was saving them for a future video. I just still have them in my minority when it comes to picking them up. Great comment and feedback, thank you!

[@Reach008]

@@ClevasMultiverse I collect them sparingly as well because not every figure is a hit. And I can’t wait for the video!

[@secondborn72]

Honestly- I have to agree with you 1000%. 1-5. Especially your point on Batman. It’s too much. 1 or 3 good ones I can understand. But for real. It’s not all that great. And the price?! 🙄🙄

[@harryrao4296]

the good thing about legends are pushing characters from every corner of Marvel Universe giving both mcu comic and animated and gamerverse versions of those characters multiverse on recently started making characters other than multiple batman varients. Legends simply much dedicated following and history with entire generation of collectors backing them this brand loyalty none of dc lines actually have @secondborn72

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you my brotha! I appreciate your feedback!

[@sowintoyou]

I collect all figure lines. With that said, DC Multiverse has far better sculpting than most domestic lines. Marvel relies mostly on repainting antiquated body molds like the Vulcan buck. You’re paying higher prices for 10 year old articulation. And Hasbro is still using that atrocious waist cut. Jada Toys just came out and their Street Fighter figures are where Hasbro should be in terms of sculpt and articulation.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Very True, sculpting on Multiverse figures is better. TBH it's almost like their movable statues almost. Like an action statue over an action figure if that makes sense.

[@sowintoyou]

@@ClevasMultiverse it makes complete sense. It all depends on your preference - articulation vs sculpt. And that’s not including import products, which incorporate both.

[@TheRevenantEdits]

Mostly all good points, but you kinda got it wrong on the scaling part though. DC Multiverse is 7 inches because that's the mandate from DC's parent company Warner Bros

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you for that! I just learned something today. I know they didn't want guns in their figures, I wasn't sure about any other mandates. How come previous DC lines didn't have that mandate? Just wondering if you know anything about that.

[@TheRevenantEdits]

@@ClevasMultiverse I'm pretty sure everyone is still wondering why Warner Bros mandated DC Multiverse to be 7 inches in the first place... In the same vein that people are still wondering why Warner Bros is so adamant on their "no guns policy" for certain DC characters' figures in certain lines (and that "mandate" isn't even consistent in and of itself). Hence why McFarlane Toys had to work around that by releasing those weapons packs not under the DC Multiverse brand

[@icebreakergamez1344]

Honestly I’ve seen the Quality in dc multiverse get better like wired capes it’s strange

[@ClevasMultiverse]

You're right about that! They have been stepping it up recently and I've appreciated those improvements. Those wired capes are a must have that I really like. I just need a lil more consistency....

[@icebreakergamez1344]

@@ClevasMultiversewhich is good I wonder why they’re just doing it though..

[@Sleven77]

I feel you on this. The McFarlane line is the reason I got into kit bashing and customizing. I liked the first few McFarlane figures I bought such as Deathstroke, the Grim Knight, and Flash Point Thomas Wayne batman. I then got into collecting Mafex and wanted figures to fit the scale of my Mafex Superman and Batman. The McFarlane figures were just too big and bulky for my liking. I now buy head sculpts from Etsy which are often times much better than the ones from Mcfarlane. I mostly use a Marvel Legends body as the base. So far, I created most of the prominent Lanterns, including Kilowog. Currently making Lobo.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That Thomas Wayne was epic in my opinion. One of the few that I was actually happy about. I would love to see that Kilowog!

[@Sleven77]

Agreed. That Thomas Wayne Batman is one of the best figures from that line. It just didn't fit with my other figures. I haven't gotten a chance to post my customs on my IG. When I do, I'll let you know. I used the old Mattel Kilowog head and put it on the Drax 2-pack body. Just finished making Lobo using the ML Random figure from the Stryfe 5-pack.

[@tomfin-wo5vc]

I’m going to pick on Ragman for a minute, because that figure exemplifies why I have all but given up on this line. You’ve got a super cool and very rare character choice. You go the extra mile and give him a cloth cape and hood. However, you put him on the Jon Kent body with the sculpted boot cuffs that are inaccurate for the character. Then you completely forego the paint apps on the back of the figure just like you did with Clock King, Psycho Pirate, etc. Why? Because he wears a cape? I’m not okay with that. You’re asking for my money in a very competitive market, but you won’t spare the expense to sculpt a blank pair of lower legs for a buck you’ve used (incorrectly) several times in the past and likely will use (incorrectly) several more times in the future? You can’t paint the costume design on the back of the figure? This is happening with just about every figure that McFarlane makes anymore, or at least the ones I’m interested in. I don’t know if it’s a case of just being lazy, just being cheap, or both, but I do know that I deserve better, I can have better, and I will have better.

[@lfabio.n]

About the scale, I don't agree, Masters of the Universe Classics were 7 inches a long time ago. I think it's 50/50 from what I can tell. You also have 1/6th scale figures that are meant for other people. I think the greatest problem with Mcfarlane is that he tries to cut all corners, and I believe, this is just me wandering, if a figure didn't turn out great, he releases it anyway. Some of his figures, I just don't know how he can keep a straight face after releasing them. Some of them are great, some are passable, I think the sculpt work is superior to Marvel Legends and is just being rivaled by Mattel's Masterverse after the fiasco of the first releases and completely put to shame by Jada. But overall, they have a great sculpt, because he's into statues. He can't understand from the perspective of someone who likes action figures. But you're spot on other than the scale imo, the face/head sculpt on his first Superman is way better than almost all other companies were able to come out with and he's starting to drop the ball on this department with Superman, but still you have three or four rereleases of that head sculpt that look really great imo as well.

[@jartober]

Ha! I never take them out of the box.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Facts!

[@puffpuffpassmako]

The problem with me is i WANT to collect DC multiverse as i enjoy both Marvel and DC but the main problem is Todd. Im a huge completionist and a sucker for obscure or b list characters. But Todd outright refuses to do them. And even worse is he refuses to do female figures because he sees no market for them. The fact we dont have a Multiverse Classic Zatanna, Big Barda, Killer Frost, or Lois Lane really ticks me off. I cant get a figure line knowing ill NEVER complete a team or hero/villain gallery. With Marvel Legends you have hasbro scraping the bottom of the barrel of obscure characters that some collectors dont care for but others like myself are ecstatic to see. The fact my spiderman collection has guys like Razorback, Hydro Man and Beetle, who casual spiderman fans wont know who they are, are made by hasbro shows they care about the character's history. So until Todd starts seeing the bigger picture, im not buying.

[@PunisherDC]

TBF Hasbro Razorback around year eleven or twelve of Hasbro. Thats with Hasbro spending most of seven years working mostly comics. But we have gotten Clock King, Ragman, Jonah Hex, Question, Shining Knight, Effigy, Agent Liberty, Commander Steele, Sgt Rock, Captain Carrot, Ambush Bug, and maybe more Im forgetting in the last year. This is with the line spread across comics though all eras, movies including legacy movies, and a tiny bit or cartoons and TV shows, and gaming universes.That can be pro or negative depending on your view but makes sense thats what they want to do with the Multiverse brand. If Im being honest if they released their best 60-70 figures from the start I would be done with them like I've been done with Hasbro for four years. Hasbro got me to 100+ figures but some of that is BAF waves were I had to pick up characters like CottonMouth or Rock Python

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Yeah the hardheadedness of Todd doesn't sit well with me. In my brain I'm like at least... pretend to hear us lol, he doesn't even do that. He thinks he's talking to his kids or something lol.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That Captain Carrot was epic, the figure made me want to look into him and get him myself. It's hit or miss with Todd.... just a lot more misses although he seems to be getting better with it as time moves forward.

[@mattsands161]

Mcfarlane has been putting out a bunch of obscure characters lately though. Characters like Clock King, Rag Man, Ambush Bug, Agent Liberty, Max Mercury, Sports Master, and Shining Knight. The lack of female figures is a real problem though. I really hope we start getting more. Apparently Power Girl is on the way.

[@Murdersh0wToys]

Aaaaaaaaagreed. I have a few Multiverse Batman figs (the Kingdom Come is pretty perfect) but have skipped so many, even figures of my favorite characters, because the figure was lacking somehow. That said, I just dumped into that Spawn Kickstarter so tf do I know? 🤣

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank your for your input my brotha! I hope that Spawn comes out official. He's a character that I really like.

[@scottmcclary594]

My "cc" keeps spelling out figyiz and I'm fuckin loving it!😂 My biggest problem with the quality control is scaling his own figures barely scale with other McFarlane figures, and those shitty ankles, they finally got rid of the ugly ass balls in the wrists & ankles but they didnt fix the giant ratchet detenses! And yes I get "Batman sells" but no we don't need a Batman in every wave not even every other wave! And also agreed Todd McFarlane can't handle criticism in the slightest and that's the biggest problem with his company and all his defenders out there saying "oh what are you talking about he listens to the fans" no he doesn't you have talking to him like a child and kid his ass with praise or it's just awkward and with the few thing he did start listening to his fans about he did begrudgingly or because it was more cost effective not because he was trying to please his fans that made him the superstar he is all full of himself and shit!

[@bernardminel7010]

Totally agree with the scale. I only get the large characters like doomsday and darkseid from multiverse since it can somtimes work with the 6 inch . I cant mix 7 inch scale it with my legends and dc classics. Dc classics is still my got to dc figs out dated articulation and all.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Those are the figs that work out great. The bigger ones like Bane and Doomsday and Lobo. Those figures are really good...... if you can find them.

[@austincrafton178]

Your speaking facts. What i hate about McFarlane figures there standing pose are so wide legged nobody stands that way i will NEVER buy McFarlane products. besides McFarlane needs to be fired and DC needs to give there line to Hasbro. Also it's odd to me that Todd hasn't made civilian 2.0 Al Simmons figure why ? He's never made a Icon figure 🤔

[@ClevasMultiverse]

He's probably gonna want us to kickstart that too.

[@Woody_222]

I’m with you bro on the Batman thing he has way too many Batman’s coming out… Coffee barista Batman & high school Janitor Batman is just too much bro like you said nobody wants that lol ✌🏽

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you my brotha!

[@Woody_222]

@@ClevasMultiverse NP much respect ✊🏽

[@daniellenihan9832]

I've been rooting for McFarlane figures to get better and give me more figures I actually want, but I'm consistently let down!!!🤔🤦🤦🤦 I tend to lean into import figures other then larger scales McFarlane figures!!!!🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷

[@ClevasMultiverse]

He can't give us all the figures we want because they gotta make that 999th Batman that we're all looking for.

[@daniellenihan9832]

@@ClevasMultiverse love that!!!!!🤘🤘

[@BladeStar-uq6xe]

Finally! Someone who agrees with me that McFarlane DC Figures are 💩! Worse than 💩! I have been Collecting for 30 and 1/2 years! I have built 10 different Earth's, 6 of them are DC, I have approximately 5,600 Total Figures! I started with DC, Super Powers line! Because of the Timeline, 1994, I believe I got the Toy Biz reissues rather than original Kenner. My 6 DC Earth's are; Earth 1: Justice League, Main DC Earth 2: Justice Society Earth 3: Crime Syndicate vs Young Justice Earth 6: Futuristic or Kingdom Come style Earth 23: Expanded Watchmen style Earth 35: Created Equal, All Female style I have bought exactly 6 McFarlane DC Figures; Devastator, Gorilla Grodd, Lex Luthor in Green Battlesuit, Atom Smasher, Carapax, and Swamp Thing to replace the undersized version from way back in the TV show days. McFarlane is 💩, McFarlane is Garbage! IMHO of course. I AM a DC Collector, if I thought that they were ANY good at all I would be buying them! I don't like the Scale, Sculpts, Selection, or Articulation. And so many break as soon as you get them out of the package. All of the Heroes look like they have Down's Syndrome, and half of the few Females have Male 'Packages'! How can anyone defend this line?

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you for chiming in my brotha! I appreciate your input. That Down Syndrome part had me laughing, its' so true but I didn't know how to articulate that part.

[@barterfour]

The only dc multiverse figure i have is the blue and yellow knightfall batman, all the others look weird

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I have that Knightfall Batman on my wall. He's one of my favorite Multiverse Figs. I keep him in the box though because once he comes out it's not gonna look right next to the others, smh. That's my issue right there.

[@theopoluspuckett5827]

I AGREE WITH YOU 100%....TELL'EM BRA!!!

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you my brotha, I appreciate you!

[@ArifShahriar270191]

i disagree with you. it depends on how u want to put your figures. I dont pose. when u have many figures, i dont think after once or twice, no one articulate their figures. mcfarlane figures are good for posing... even their build quality i think is better than ML... maybe I am wrong... but thats my opinion

[@ClevasMultiverse]

That's fair, we each have our way of presenting and displaying our collections. As for me I absolutely hate museum poses. In my collection video 90% of my collection is dynamic so that's why that means a lot to me. I was more trying to compare current DC to former companies who had the DC license and how I still appreciated the way that they came out. I appreciate you taking the time to leave your thoughts. Thank you!

[@TheToyOdyssey]

Batman sells. Simple and plain.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Very True!

[@skaknight9291]

Dc Essentials were 7 inch. Scale right ?

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I'm not 100% sure about essentials. I forgot about them when I was doing this.

[@kickstart5733]

I got some spawn figures and I had to stop after three I just wasn’t rocking with it

[@ClevasMultiverse]

They come off better as "action statues" more than anything. Such a shame too because I love Spawn so much.

[@kickstart5733]

Personally if I want a statue I’m just gonna buy the statues when I get a FIGURE I wanna make um do splits and toe touches😂😂

[@liloofy9642]

No disrespect, I’ve always wondered what it’s like but , and obviously not speaking for a whole race but what is it like when most hero’s aren’t your race ? Again no disrespect

[@ClevasMultiverse]

No disrespect taken at all. TBH I would never want an "Affirmative Action" character. That's even worse than not having one at all lol. I never really thought about it. I mean Spider man 2099 and Miles Morales both have spanish in them and I think they work out great. They tried it with Blue Beetle and I'm still on the fence about it. I actually get mad when they race swap characters for no reason, like they did with the Fantastic Four movie (Now it doesn't make sense). These characters came out when that was the theme and that's what it was. I look at comics and figures as an escape from reality and I don't want it to remind me of my day to day. I'm trying to get away from that. That's exactly why I hate this whole D.E.I. agenda. I'm down for all new characters and if they work out they work out but let's leave the classics alone. No need to reinvent the wheel. If it's not broke don't fix it. That's my thought on that.

[@liloofy9642]

@@ClevasMultiverse that’s awsome ! I oddly read that in your voice too , intresting thought!

[@tomfin-wo5vc]

One of my favorite DC Characters is Mr. Terrific (Micheal Holt). The first time I saw him was early in the Goyer/Johns JSA run. His one on one battle with Kobra, with their physical and verbal exchanges, was an instant classic. I loved that touch of confidence bordering on arrogance that Holt had. How could you be that successful in life and not be a little arrogant? Kobra even called him on it. It was one of the rare times when I felt like the cart (skin color, gender, nationality, religion, sexual preference, etc) wasn’t put in front of the horse (creating a compelling character).

[@Ultrontu]

marvel legends is trash to and i used to collect them to I'm a collector as well I only collect mafex , sh figure arts and mezco figures when it comes to the marvel side of things because that's where the quality is at even though its more money quality over quantity marvel legends re use and re paint the same figures then you got qc issues with them hasbro is losting money so there begging us to pay them money for those hashab's its embarrassing to say the least i have more to say on both dc multiverse and marvel legends its crazy man dc multiverse figures are stiff as hell and out of scale so i cant collect that

[@Jonesey-m3h]

The brands you buy are way too expensive for me. I just don’t want to spend $60 + dollars on an action figure.

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Once you move up to imports your collection is going to be way better so you don't have to deal with these things I guess. Honestly I'm about to go that direction with DC because I just need consistency at this point, you might be on to something!

[@tvirus9369]

I dont like marvel legends, the toybiz figures are awesome

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Toy Biz has a lot of great things about them, my favorite being the BAF's and vehicles being included without having to call them "deluxe' figures.

[@tonymeechie]

your not a big channel YET but if you where my guy man let me tell you there are some die hard mcfarlane lovers out here that will come for your neck about your comments,lol ,not saying your wrong cuss your correct in everything you said

[@ClevasMultiverse]

I thought about that for a long time and honestly this topic was on my original list of topics from when I was thinking about starting a channel. The thing is, this is how I feel every time I look at my DC section. Even in my room tour video I didn't clean, dust or organize that section because my heart just wasn't in it. I tried my best just to bring up points that I really believed in without talking down on it. I could also do a video about why I DO like them because there are flip sides to the coin. I want nothing more than for my DC collection to grow as big as my other sections. This to me felt like I was just pointing out the obvious, luckily it seems that a lot of other people feel the same way so I guess it worked out.

[@Nicelife7]

Preach king

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Thank you my brotha!

[@RyanOnWeather]

ML use the same body for 15 years with no texture XD. hardness is better plastic lol ive switched from ML to DC because its better quality and you get more for your money....also waves are only 4 figures for bAFs...instead of 7 with 1 not even having a piece. you just sound like a hater for no reason...dont sound like you even liked dc to begin with

[@ClevasMultiverse]

Sorry to hear that. I'm far from a hater and you can clearly see that I have DC figures on my wall. Hardness is better plastic? Did you watch the video? I said the opposite, I'm still trying to figure out what you're laughing at. I do agree that the BAF piece count is less and that is way better. I also think that their bigger figures are better, like Lobo, Bane, Swamp Thing, Man Bat, etc. Those are epic. Hater for no reason? I gave 5 reasons my brotha and criticism is a part of any industry. You can't expect me to feel the same way that you do, I'm not a robot. I actually Love DC and my Banner is split between DC and Marvel. You kinda sound like Todd does when he gets feedback if you ask me. Do you work for him or something? I still appreciate your feedback and comments. It's all preference at the end of the day. It was never a DC thing. It was a DC Multiverse thing. There's a difference.

[@RyanOnWeather]

@@ClevasMultiverse i did watch the whole video. Idk you just came off as bitter or angry to me. But this was the first video i ever saw from you. Ill sub and see your other videos. im autistic, i might not have used the right phrasing or words. My apologies. Id love to work for todd, id like to see him get the Marvel line when their contract is up.

[@RyanOnWeather]

@@ClevasMultiverse a lot of people dont give a shit about their viewers comments, i give you props for even replying back homie.

Im not a fan boy since i dont collect based on nostalgia or license ,i just collect cool toys . But i will just address a few points you made . Yea ,articulation is not perfect on multiverse but most marvel legends i have cannot stand up which is an even worse offense . As far as too many batmans sure thats valid but legends just got a whole wave of characters we have seen in almost every wave forever ,spiderman ,wolverine ,iron man and another captain america . If u buying those cant say nothing about batman honestly . But lets look at how todd responds to all the issues ppl say about his toys and has made improvements . Todd made statues for decades ,those were the first toys i collected so to even see any articulation is amazing to me . Not every figure needs to be able to do yoga ,i myself dont reall care since most of my figs just stand on my shelf until i decide who they will fight next ,and there are a lot of them that get no play at all becuz i have so many of them . Not all collectors are acba ,not all of us need 50 pts of articulation . And when will hasbro come up with cloth capes ,vehicles and playsets ( that are not $300 haslabs ) ? All companies have their strengths and weaknesess . And like i said ,i barely buy multiverse or legends im a 3rd party type ,but i did trade in my mafex cyborg superman in for the multiverse ,it just looked so much cooler to me even though it didnt have the cloth cape or acessories the mafex had .