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[@guildosaurus]

I've legit been banned from fb groups for calling out a private seller for inventing names for their monstera variegata albo 🤡

[@cinthiaham1517]

This a total “not all heroes wear capes” move 👏🏼

[@guildosaurus]

@@cinthiaham1517 thank you 💖 the admins of that group banned me for '' bullying '' a seller, when all I did was comment on two of their posts asking why they didn't use the plants actual name 😴

[@janne7263]

Depends on if it was actually a bullshit name or an accepted one like Oceania or White monster or Mint

[@guildosaurus]

@@janne7263 nope it was something like '' Japanese tiger ''

[@guildosaurus]

@@janne7263 that same seller posted a '' pink princess marble '' today on another group I'm in 😴

[@orchids4256]

You definitely have my vote for the video idea about variegation. I'd love to hear about the ways to recognize if something has the potential to be variegated, like how you can check the stems sometimes. Sounds like an interesting topic, and kind of fun to see how you, as a plant seller, might choose vs those of us who are just customers. Random aside, love the aesthetic of the light blouse with the dark nails. Looks fab!

[@shellanarciza9807]

2nd both notions.

[@kellytahmasebi9289]

agreed pls make the video

[@im_n2740]

I feel bad for everyone because I ordered a philodendron 69686 online and got it 2 weeks later, upon opening… I found a newly unfurled leaf and another one growing. It immediately flourished and in 4 months I’ve gotten 5 new progressively mature leaves!

[@slay8076]

I found out about philodendron paraiso verde through this video and it’s currently my favourite plant and I just bought one today 😭😭 I love the gangly long petioles and ruffles leaves

[@katie4996]

You look so beautiful today! That beige top and light background really compliments your skin tone and eye color!

[@EricWalton]

I too would love a verigation video. And yes I completely agree that people shouldn't sell fake ass named plants. Me being primarily an orchid grower I love the lineage and ancestry of each particular plant. I have some legacy plants that were hybridized 50 or even a hundred years ago. They do not exist anymore due to the breeders closing up shop or passing away etc. Thanks for all your vids and the blunt honesty you bring to the table.

[@charliemiller8599]

Off topic, but you should do a video on fertilizing and what you use/how often. There’s a ton of info out there and it can be overwhelming

[@bug2341]

I love all my Alocasia but could totally understand why you wouldn’t want to sell them because they are definitely drama queens!!

[@nekeon]

Philodendron White Princess "Tricolor" and Hoya Crimson Queen "Tricolor" are currently my favourite BS variegations. Any White Princess can sport some pink patterns here and there and Crimson Queens always have new growth in pink or even reddish colours depending on the light conditions.

[@1faithchick7]

Every single seller in my area, big box stores and local independent small plant nursery, are all calling Krimson Queen a 'tricolor'. It is driving me nuts!

[@wendyg7573]

Yes a video of what variegated to buy and what not to buy and the ones most likely to revert. Thank you. I enjoy your videos so much and have learned so much from them.

[@jerryabne4013]

I observed some sellers also telling it was reverted like "reverted florida beauty" but its actually a florida green just to sell it more pricy.

[@glen4075]

Definitely do the variegation video. Thank you Kaylee. 👍

[@wannabe_gardner5857]

I got a 69686 from someone a few states away and it arrived ok. However, it was well established, only took 3 days in the post and it was in soil. I think all those factors play a huge part.

[@kassandrastein4249]

Could be a European thing or maybe also in America there are different ways of propagating them by the sellers in case it was a shop. Your and the other comments about the well shipped ones remind me of the case with the Monstera Thai first generation and the "newer" ones.

[@Alithea_Ancunin]

Thank you for keeping the names on the screen while talking about them. Really appreciate it 🤓

[@JohnnyWin]

I love your videos because they're so informative and prevents so many new people in the plant community from being misinformed.

[@saprossarx]

I saw pictures of a pink Micans for sale only to find its caused by some additive and isn't a real variegation. Thank you for being an honest seller.

[@crochetqueen6440]

it's the same chemical as the whole "pink congo" and it will disappear. Nasty misleading sellers

[@saprossarx]

@@crochetqueen6440 I thought it might be. Too bad, it looks very appealing.

[@ceecee8757]

@@saprossarx lol it's probably food coloring. Remember in elementary school when experimenting with celery and food coloring? Same concept. 😆

[@hefoxed]

I think this KZbinr actually has a video about pink micans, worth the watch if I'm remembering correctly

[@Galemor1]

With your high humidity, good light and nutrition watering, we all suspect that it will be plant heaven. My dried out, chilly, low light, unregulated watering care, will not produce the same results as you can. Anyway, I would appreciate a series about the different types of growth, like who are gangly, who are bushy, who are climbers, who are crawlers, who are moist loving, who are spidermite prone, like that, doesn't need to be long videos. 😀

[@gillianbarth5927]

I would love a video about what variegation to buy! It's so frustrating to never feel like you can get your plant back to what you know it could be, if you could only find the right conditions. I've reached the point where I'd rather just stick to the easy ones.

[@Skutta83]

I have Philodendron serpens and I love it. You can grow him in your living room since he don't demand high humidity like some plants do 🌱 and his furry stems and sexy big leaves is just amazing 😍 he grows pretty fast as well 😊

[@teresalgross1332]

The light background, neutral top and overall hair/makeup coloring of your video are all beautiful in this episode. I’ve been watching a long time and love the channel & content so I’m not trying to objectify you. While I also appreciate your brands’ consistent and sophisticated“dark theme”/color ways, this change up looks fresh and so lovely!

[@fakecrystal2740]

Yes pls do that varigations video and maybe talk about the epipremnum pinnatum variegata,marble,mint,green,blue Form? Will be really interesting! *. *, love your videos 👍❤️

[@kassandrastein4249]

Assumption: Theres no marble or mint pinnatum. I grow a pinnatum variegata and it's huge and almost every leaf could be all of them. It's a matter of genetics, light, water and fertilizer. I could even make up a pinnatum cream because some of my leaves don't have all of the variegation layers.

[@pearlepink9776]

Paraiso definitely used to be a plant that I liked… and then I got it. I also hate how it grows. It’s not worth it to me.

[@botanicassie]

That’s like the pink princess they call black cherry. As soon as I got a normal pink princess and it was pushing leaves in my care they came out super dark it’s not black cherry lol it’s just my conditions. I also have another one that someone told me is marble. Well I didn’t buy it as that and I don’t think so I think it has high variegation and y’all are shocked because you can barely find one with high color these days. Lawd. Making shit up as we go 😂

[@SG12356]

re: 68686's - I've been lucky, I guess. In April, I imported a couple from overseas - they arrived with great roots and the leaves were honestly perfect, so cute and quirky-looking with that shape they have, know what I mean? Anyhow, the leaves ranged in length from about 20-25cm. Because they were relatively inexpensive, I took a chance and after letting them sit in water for a day, I chopped them into single node cuttings the day after I unwrapped them - every single one of my cuttings kept the same perfect leaf that it arrived with. They were not kept in a greenhouse, but just in normal household conditions. Some of the cuttings rooted pretty fast (within a month), others took 2 months to start doing anything, and 1 of them is super slow (i.e. it still hasn't grown new roots, so the leaf is a bit limp, although still super green and normal looking). It's been over 3 months and so far I haven't lost a single cutting (I bought 2 plants and chopped them into 7 cuttings). You grow in leca, right? I wonder if the issue is that they didn't like leca? Maybe transitioning from whatever they were grown in at the supplier to growing in leca at your place was too stressful for them? I propagated mine in sphagnum, and put the bottom cuttings in aroid mix. Also, I watered with distilled water, not tap water.

[@MsLindamee]

I'm in Britain and have shipped loads of 69686 with no problems at all. I do remember Kaylee saying she was having trouble with them before she'd shipped any, while they were still in her warehouse.

[@HippieHC]

I find variegation so fascinating, I keep chopping up my marble queen just to watch what different sections of it will do 😂 so yes I will listen to you talk about anything variegation related lol

[@aamz4892]

I’m a plant mama to a paraiso verde. I love it, mine honestly grows neatly and the nodes are near one another… but it’s a lot of hard work though. And the variegation is quite nice so far…. ☺️

[@notsurewhat2put]

what's your care for the plant? lighting watering fertilizing etc

[@calliesahli6793]

I love my paraiso, but tbf i also grew it from a little tiny condiment cup plant so i feel like that influences my thoughts a little, but oh my gosh i agree with you on how gangly they are

[@therealsassyama682]

What I learned from alocasias is that they absolutely hate being changed from soil growing medium to semi hydro. If you want to grow an alocasia in semi hydro consider buying bulbs and growing them yourselves if you can't find a seller who already sells them grown in semi hydro. They completely die back and rot within hours of changing from soil lol

[@russellyoung3216]

In Australia, the cheapest A. Regale I have seen is $400 for a 5cm seedling. That was the STARTING PRICE of an AUCTION!

[@saylorsoul]

Ecuagenera sells them for $65. Hopefully they’ll start shipping to Australia soon?

[@cassiec260]

@@saylorsoul importing to Australia can be expensive and hard. Not as hard and expensive as my country ( New Zealand) but we both have to take extreme measures to protect our ecosystems

[@sunflowerhill4349]

@@saylorsoul No, you can't ship to Australia, we have a very tough quarantine system to protect our plants and ecosystemes from introduced pests. It costs a huge amount of money and takes many months of specialized quarantine to import plants, it is really only done by businesses.

[@saylorsoul]

@@sunflowerhill4349 makes sense, you guys have really cool endemic plants we don't want to mess around with! but thats a bummer :(

[@sammiegrace8172]

Yes, someone said it out loud! I had a random person slide in my DM’s and was naming so many different names for Pink Princess’s! I knew I would never buy plants from that person. Thank you for helping to educate us… especially, new plant owners.

[@Crazygirl2055]

Example of making up names to sell plants for more money is the Hawaiian Pothos. It is a regular old mature golden pothos that had a pole. Makes me laugh out loud any time someone asks for specifically a Hawaiian pothos.

[@MsBubu26]

Me too. Seriously when it came out I was scratching my head thinking is it me or is that just a regular pothos with more yellow? As I was noticing some pothos at work had that yellow color. But people tried to make us think it was a different type!

[@hellowilson5335]

Lmao thank you for clearing that up for me. Everytime I’ve seen it I get confused. Looks like the standard Pothos we’ve all had or is EVERYWHERE outside. I thought it was just me

[@Giaphaige]

It was so weird to see 69868 on here, I got an import order from Indonesia and it was one of the plants that did the best in shipping! Hasn't lost a single leaf

[@Sandreline]

This is small fries, but I've recently seen Philodendron Brasil "Carnival" pop up online. I was taken aback because it looks precisely like my Brasil that gets bright afternoon light. 🙄 Don't pay for a Carnival. Give your $5 Brasil a ton of light and a moss pole. You will get absolutely stunning variegation.

[@kelliewilkins6331]

Hadn't heard of this so googled it, it looks just like mine before it took a hit at winter time. It's grown back completely different, tonnes of the lighter green, with specks of dark. Very fun little plant, a surprise with every new leaf. Anyway, mad that people are selling it as something else!

[@Sandreline]

@@kelliewilkins6331, my Brasil was the first plant that I bought. Got it at Ikea for like $6. A year and 30+ plants later, and it's still my favorite. It's always surprising me. I have one vine that alternates between mostly lime leaves and highly variegated tri-color leaves. Currently giving my Silver Stripe the same amount of light to see if I can get a cheap Rio dupe.

[@crochetqueen6440]

carnival ARE different, it's sport variegation. The way it stripes in the centre. However, I wouldn't pay extra for one, and at least here, prices are almost the same.

[@Sandreline]

@@crochetqueen6440, my Brasil has plenty of leaves that look exactly like the variegation of a so-called Carnival. 🤷 Brasils can have highly varied variegation. It doesn't need a special name.

[@crochetqueen6440]

@@Sandreline I absolutely agree that Brasils have highly varied variegation, however having a different name when that variegation is consistently different from the Brasil over most of a plant isn't a big deal to me, unless they are trying to use that to charge more for the plant, which I've already said is not something I agree with

[@malindarayallen]

your makeup look is so summery and fresh!

[@brendadavis2919]

Thank you for this video, great topic. I like that your honest on the content that you talk about.

[@kennamcdowell9036]

That is a great video idea! I know a lot of us would love to see it since variegated plants are always in such high demand!

[@TDN3052]

Your plant supply links there are seriously effing useful 0_0

[@chayalaf]

Yessss please for the variegated shopping! I did a post on how to shop variegated plants on some of my group but a video would be easier to share and understand 💚💚

[@planetfreaky6621]

yes plz. You definitely have my vote for the video idea about variegation.

[@FizahRahim]

Yes! Would love the video about variegations.

[@ivankoh3]

Thanks Kaylee. Enjoyed all your videos. Please keep it up

[@Jicuri]

i love the background. you look amazing as always

[@unicornprincess001]

I love my paraiso verde! I have a small plastic greenhouse in my spare room and it's loving life. It was all green when I got it and chopped the crap out of it. All the new leaves are soooooo white and beautiful

[@tynatheunicorn]

Hi Kaylee, I really like the peachy vibe of the video 🙂

[@e.t.w.4299]

Thank you Kaylee, that was a really good informative video! I’m fairly new to the plant world and really noticed all these fancy names too with high price tags and it boggles my mind when looking at the photos. A variegation video would be really really cool btw and a case study too x

[@AbbiZika]

I recently ordered a Jose Buono from Enid, let me be the first to tell you that this plant arrived PERFECTLY. Still no yellowing, no bumps, bruises, cuts absolutely no damage. Shout-out to NSE tropicals! I'm just getting into more uncommon plants and Kaylee is 100% my next stop. This is a sickness 😅😅

[@amberspatzer8216]

Hi Kaylee! I just wanted to comment and tell you how much I appreciate what you do for us hobbyist and I love how real and informative you are to us. I love your channel and I hope to one day soon figure out how to start my own business growing and selling plants because I have a huge passion for it. Thank you for everything! Side not/request: A video comparing similar plants and giving a rundown on differences ex. (painted lady vs colkins gold or syngonium salmon vs syngonium strawberry milk ect.)

[@anermila6325]

Finally I see the hair done right ! 😍

[@patriciagrant4913]

I would love to see a video on variegation. Great idea!

[@annedharma]

69686 has been a consistently easy care and whimsically beautiful plant that has always shipped easily and without issues both on the selling and buying end for me. But my experience has only been shipping within the USA. They are so cute to me; their leaves always remind me of long-nosed puppy dogs. I'm such a fan. 🥰

[@jmacd98]

I bought a 69868 one week ago, here in the U.K., very established, three growth points and it’s absolutely fine, spent three days in a box getting here, in very old weather, but still looking amazing, and I think it’s going to be fine. Stunning plants

[@jerryclemens1474]

Yes, would like to hear more about variegated plants.

[@aviabad]

I remember when watching the video and you brought up the philodendron blah 'blood". Caught my attention big time. Before the video finished I was on it. . No real intentions of purchasing already knowing what the cost would be like. I just needed to know more. I don't remember what name I found it under but when I did and the price floored me. Thinking I lucked out finding at the price i did. Before price shot through the roof. Would not be the first time you have given me interest in something before it hit the US or for whatever reason wasn't expensive here. Purchased and received confirmation before I hit play again and thanked you Kaylee. She arrived a few days later smaller than I expected but decent and healthy. She has more than doubled in size. According to searching way more doubled in price as well. No interest or want to ever sell her. Again thank you Kaylee. 😀🌱😀🌱❤️🌱😀❤️

[@joannavalentine4187]

Hi! Yes please do video on variegation purchasing that would be great

[@wendyg7573]

I do agree with you about the Paraiso Verde. I have tried to grow 3 of these plants and have had no success in keeping a patern on the leaves . I paid in the triple digets for mine in Perth WA

[@Alizardlovesyou]

I want a Serpens so bad!!! 💚 He's my long-term wishlist plant :D

[@the_ariod_witch_]

Anthurium regale is so high on my wishlist 🙈. Love Anthuriums

[@trichoderma_reesei]

Oooh would love a variegated video! Loving your makeup here, looking really good, Kaylee :) xxx from fellow plant lady

[@deaf_star]

I agree about the Paraiso! I wish I had known prior to buying mine. They remind me of a lot of Alocasia the way they grow. Ugh, I stopped buying them as well so I agree with that too.

[@hola-rk3lr]

Can you show us the hastatum silver variegata philodendron?

[@sarahanderson344]

Varigation video, YES!

[@greenlessthumb]

I would love that case study video! Also maybe a video of your favorite plants you sell. (unless you have that already and I'm just blind)

[@amysname100]

I experimented with keeping a grow tent in my garage this summer and omg my reverted paraiso verde has been popping off in 90 degree+ heat at 80% humidity. (My white princess too has been loving it too omg) Maybe they would like an outdoor greenhouse in warm weather. Paraisos sank to about $50-$80 locally (OKC USA) luckily I bought it cheap as a reverted cutting.

[@catherinehurdcarter1233]

Yea its friday!!! Hello from across the pond. !!

[@jordanlawrence2787]

I almost bought the first philodendron69### as a shipped cutting! I’m so glad I didn’t 😅 I’d have been so sad when it arrived dead. I love your videos ♥️

[@octaviaschulte1719]

Another fab video! So informative. TFS!

[@mellamorphose]

My corsi is actually super easy care and fast growing as well. I don’t even have it in a greenhouse and it is getting some direct light.

[@gosiakolicka3944]

Can you reveal what your conditions are? High humidity?

[@moonbeam2951]

Thank you so much. 💓

[@meikahidenori]

As an Australian it drives me bananas when people call a whiter marble queen pothos a snow queen. It's the SAME PLANT just had better light to bask in. Also, Snow queen pothos here are NJoy/Glacier plants overseas (our look a combination between the two, I've had many US people tell me I'm mislabelling the plant but the name NJoy belongs to the university that created it and it can cost alot of money to use, hence the different name. It's a fun confusion to have 😅

[@dewantoroo]

And they're not even a true pothos... They're epipremnum aureum. Pothos is a whole another genus of plant 😬

[@kassandrastein4249]

Thank you. That's what I'm always saying about marble/snow queen and nobody wants to believe me. Feels good to know I'm not all by myself with this 😀

[@Neeneex3]

Not plant related*** can I just say I’m loving the lighter makeup, fresh look you’re rocking here? 🤩 you’re glowing ✨✨

[@krististafford3135]

Yes, please do the variegation video!

[@cherry9511]

My lynamii throw out new leaves like no tomorrow like a new leaf every two months. I love the color of it. It remind me of laffy taffy

[@bzzzz1910]

Please do the video on buying variegated plants!

[@r.mertens]

Thanks for your video and the effort you but in it. And these black nails with that Top - Gorgeous!! A video about light and fertilizer for Anthuriums would really be great. There is so much information out there, but I don‘t get it… My Anthuriums often look like they get to much, to less of one or both.

[@mjhawley5848]

why is your skin so fkn perfect?!! probably what happens when you pretty much live in high humidity. beautiful glow on girl ❤️

[@TheHawaiianPanda1]

I imported a squamicaule within a couple of weeks of your video when you hauled them, and it absolutely melted in shipping and then every growth point rotted in my care. When I’m starting to look at a replacement I’m having to rethink how much I love it…

[@elizabethmccone7980]

The corsinianum has been low maintenance in my experience so far. I ordered one over 6 months ago and I basically stuck it in a prop box to quarantine without even checking it. Fast forward a month later, I finally got around to looking at it and found out it was riddled with spider mites. Treated it, and put it back in the box. I moved houses and it eventually graduated from out of the box and into my patio. Despite all my neglect, it hasn’t slowed down in growth at all and the leave look perfect (other than 2-3 leaves with spider mite speckles). Idk honestly 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@bethanynapier9407]

Please do a video on variegation assessment!!! Would love to see it. The only video I've seen on the topic breaking down different kinds of variegation was Nick Alexander's video - highly reccomend, mostly science-centered. But I'd love to hear your takes and insights!

[@bethanynapier9407]

Especially since you can speak more to the market side of it

[@sunz1337]

In EU (Germany) you get a Regale for like 150€ and maybe even less. Beautiful Plant. I own one myself but I agree they are super sensible. Having a perfect, spotless leaf over a long period of time is IMPOSSIBLE.

[@sunflowerhill4349]

That was interesting as usual thank you! :) I love paraiso but am giving up on it too...because I'm just not spending hundreds of dollars more heating my house to its liking 6 months of the year just to get the variegation back...I'm also not buying a Jose for this reason; good things to know! I'd like a var video too, I've already learned a lot about variegation from your videos :) :) :)

[@jjh3365]

Yes please to video on variegation!! 💚

[@gladyspichardo8121]

I have a regale stump and a reverted paraiso verde. I agree with you about these plants. I live in the US

[@miramar1504]

Paraiso don't revert. They need very high light and temperatures to throw variegtion, otherwise their leaves remain green.

[@gladyspichardo8121]

@@miramar1504 Then idk what's wrong with mine bc it is sitting on a southern facing window. Maybe moving it outdoors will be the most southern exposure. Thanks for the info.

[@karolinagracjasz4037]

Agree with all you said. Lov your videos💜

[@lucyhyde8171]

So surprised about the bad behaviour of the 68696 - recently bought a couple, and one was in the post for a few extra days lost, and still looks absolutely amazing! All 6 leaves doing well, and we are 2 weeks in. I'm over the moon with it and how well it did ship! Spooky

[@shirleymoore3706]

Definitely want the vote video

[@ainsg3839]

Totally agree on the paraiso verde. Love the mottling, but the growth pattern is super lame 😅

[@silenc3x]

Honestly from sent within the contiguous 48 states, most plants I receive are looking pretty perfect, providing I went with USPS priority. 3 days from coast to coast is amazing. But I understand as you are in the UK.

[@harristanaya31]

My Number philo came and was huge! Beautiful packaged amazing. But I lost all her leaves. Fast forward she is back to Beautiful but I had to deal with shock. 😂😂 I'm not a seller I'm a collector so bringing them back is fun for me. And growing babies is my thing. The 2nd one I got as a baby and it's Beautiful. 😊

[@SadikaMehnumMariam]

there, at 24:18, I looooooveeeee what you have said!! Salute

[@Shaurobi]

I’d love to learn more about variegated plants

[@manuelita467]

Honestly the paraiso Verdes are beautiful and hardy. Haha I loved growing from tc.

[@helenpattskyn2746]

I love my Pariso Verde -- but I hear you about it being gangly! I bought mine for (I think?) mid double digits from Indonesia (so lower cost per plant, but high shipping) in February (2022). (I'm in the US, for context).

[@jazortillo9667]

I love Paraiso verde.

[@sarahmichelle473]

I would love a video about variegation and shopping for it

[@agathan.944]

I totally agree about Paraiso Verde.

[@A.A.Rae-Rae]

Literally everything listed as dislikes about Paraiso Verde is because she's not giving it enough light 🤭 (long petiole/internodes("gangly" look) = etiolation and low var is the plant producing more photosynthetic pigments to try to milk as much light out of their environment as they possibly can) I know this was a few months ago, but I just started watching this back-log and I've grown/sold PPVs for years now, so when I heard Kaylee say she dislikes them I knew this was going to be why -- not many people know about their light addictions, so they get labeled as "difficult" or "troublemakers" (which I find uncomfortably relatable lol) Figured I'd leave a little note -- just in case anyone else happens to read this who is having trouble with theirs! Of course, they still like to be warm, and sweaty (decent humidity) like other Philos, but Paraisos are also absolute fiends for light. I know it's admittedly not normally true of Philos, but trust me -- these ones want to be in a spot that gets a few hrs of direct sun in the morning or evening, (not direct sun all day, just a few hours) AND also bright indirect for the rest of the day (or a front-row seat to the all-day grow-light show). Any "reversion" is because of a prolonged period of cloudy/overcast weather (or because they got moved away from the grow-light) and once they start getting enough light again, the variegation will come right back. That said, sometimes if it's been in lower-light setting for a long while, a plant may take sitting in a high-light area over the course of the next 2-3 leaves to start putting out really good patterning again, (you should see moderately less green with each new leaf until one just pops out fully variegated again) but it always brings it back eventually if you give them that light they crave -- they can't truly revert.

[@swatch12345]

I got the store brand version of both lynamii and serpens in a fibrosum and nangaritense. Wayyyyyy cheaper and love them both.

[@lRegulus]

Ph. corsinianum seems to appreciate being in stable conditions: i.e. sweet spot seems to be approximately 20-30 deg.C, don't let it dry out but not too wet either - i.e. it wouldn't really appreciate self-watering as the roots are really thin and prone to rot. A note on the Ppp marble: the speckles on those variants are thought to be stable, kinda like thai cons (but not the sectorals). Of course, I may be wrong about this.

[@alyssaandrus1]

I grow Paraiso Verde in my garage here in Texas and get really beautiful varigation without long stems. I dont know if it's the combo of heat and light that they get but I dont see the issues that you have found with this plant. My garage in the summer is usually between 86-90 F.

[@luisamedda2273]

I very much appreciate your onesty