Why I Don’t Use useEffect In My React Components

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Web Dev Simplified

Web Dev Simplified

Күн бұрын

useEffect is one of the greatest additions to React. It is so much nicer than using component lifecycle methods, but it comes with one huge problem. The API for useEffect sucks. Not only that, but having tons of useEffects in your components makes your code harder to parse and understand. This is why I try to minimize if not remove all useEffects from my components. This makes my code easier to read/write and makes sure all the ugliness of useEffect is hidden away in custom hooks.
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01:23 - Hiding useEffect in custom hooks
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@Thelukkest
@Thelukkest Жыл бұрын
This one is kinda a clickbait. You still use it but just in custom hooks.
@Leon-bb8fc
@Leon-bb8fc Жыл бұрын
@@christenw.1726 gz, u just described what clickbait means
@Thelukkest
@Thelukkest Жыл бұрын
@@christenw.1726 I mean if you say you don't do something, do you still do it just because you didn't use the word ever?
@andrillaf
@andrillaf Жыл бұрын
@Thelukkest Maybe, but if you said “This is why I don’t drink coffee,” with an explanation, I would understand, what you mean.
@cvemwanda
@cvemwanda Жыл бұрын
I agree, title and thumbnail are misleading
@hevans900
@hevans900 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is a non-video. Not up to your usual standard.
@ultragigachader
@ultragigachader Жыл бұрын
For the newbies out there : my personal opinion is you should absolutely use useEffect, do not fall into the trap of applying syntactic sugar or makeup for the sake of hiding stuff that you may not like to see in your code. Keep it simple, extract code that you will repeat often accross components and most importantly keep your code readable ( name functions, variables and add comments where necessary ). That's it.
@xjfw2
@xjfw2 Жыл бұрын
I agree, i dont like to maping code and also if you see abstracted code like this you expect that its being used on at least more components, this video can be actually an anti-pattern.
@alhazred3555
@alhazred3555 Жыл бұрын
based
@roydondecastro
@roydondecastro Жыл бұрын
When Ultra Giga Chad speaks, we listen. WebDevSimp doesn't use useEffect but he uses useEffect, kinda sus. But i'm just a noob so what do I know.
@petarkolev6928
@petarkolev6928 Жыл бұрын
One should use useEffect only if the logic requires it, but talking about "you should absolutely use useEffect" - who said one shouldn't? Kyle is explaining how when one need to use useEffect he/she needs to write it in a separate custom hook related to that component which needs the logic in that useEffect, and I totally agree with this approach :) I use it all the time, except I have only one small useEffect, then I write in the component, but when I have two or more, I immediately move it to a separate file.
@ultragigachader
@ultragigachader Жыл бұрын
@@petarkolev6928 read "my personal opinion". Also, I'm right.
@yoni532s9M5w
@yoni532s9M5w Жыл бұрын
2016: Stop using jQuery 2018: Stop using Angular 2020: Stop using class components 2030: Stop using your PC, return to monke
@lambmaster
@lambmaster Жыл бұрын
2040: use jQuery
@Mr505505
@Mr505505 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@chonkyboy3597
@chonkyboy3597 Жыл бұрын
:v 2022 stop using CRA
@KeganVanSickle
@KeganVanSickle Жыл бұрын
I definitely still prefer Angular. :)
@reactdom.render
@reactdom.render Жыл бұрын
Angular will be deprecated soon in the future because it's no longer maintain. React will wrapped to the world
@wlockuz4467
@wlockuz4467 Жыл бұрын
Corrected to avoid confusion. Please -don't stop using useEffect- don't stop using useEffect in your components just because WDS told you not to, useEffect exists for a reason. Codebases are different in nature and what works for him may or may not work for you. Do some research, understand the trade-offs, then make a decision.
@francarloscastillorobles3618
@francarloscastillorobles3618 Жыл бұрын
He says don’t I don’t use it because it’s being used in a costume hooks, kind of stupid things just to make content
@_HappyHippo
@_HappyHippo Жыл бұрын
He isn't really saying to not use useEffect. The point of the vid just appears to be: "keep your components easy to read". The title and a good portion of the video is misleading because what he is actually saying is, that you should put your useEffects into custom hooks to hide them from your components, and not to straight up stop using useEffect.
@francarloscastillorobles3618
@francarloscastillorobles3618 Жыл бұрын
@@_HappyHippo but we all know that component should be easy to read, not just component with useEffect hooks.
@_HappyHippo
@_HappyHippo Жыл бұрын
@@francarloscastillorobles3618 Yes it is obvious.
@joegaffney8006
@joegaffney8006 Жыл бұрын
how to hide that you are using useEffect
@Shibzzeg
@Shibzzeg Жыл бұрын
Clickbait title, I'd say this is not about useEffect per se, but more about the value of abstracting more complex logic that relies on state/side effects behind a custom hook. Otherwise, I agree with your thoughts on this approach.
@khaledsanny4817
@khaledsanny4817 Жыл бұрын
No it's not clickbait ... he explicitly said "he doesnt use it inside react components"... Hooks are not react components as far as I know... he is just abstracting useEffectwith custom hooks...
@onuralpbicer887
@onuralpbicer887 Жыл бұрын
@@khaledsanny4817 Hooks are definitely extensions of react components
@tapiwakundishora6195
@tapiwakundishora6195 Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt call it click bait but even if it was, he needed to get your attention and he provided useful information which is okay in my eyes
@TamNguyen-vj4sq
@TamNguyen-vj4sq Жыл бұрын
He is RIGHT, he said dont use it in REACT COMPONENTS.
@warodomwerapun6417
@warodomwerapun6417 Жыл бұрын
I agree that he provides useful information in my view, however, this title leads newbies to misleading of the useEffect().
@Aman-Verma
@Aman-Verma Жыл бұрын
:( Please update the title of this video. It’s misleading
@pixiedev
@pixiedev Жыл бұрын
You said absolutely right. He should change it to "You are using useEffect in wrong way" and In my opinion If (he's providing any good thing) { it's not a clickbait. } else { it's a clickbait }
@JulianHarris
@JulianHarris Жыл бұрын
TL;DR “wrap useEffect in custom hooks for better separation of concerns”. Much easier to understand and use.
@javajoint
@javajoint Жыл бұрын
A better title for this would have been "why I squirrel my useEffect calls away in utility functions". When we used to do Class based components (pre-hooks), we would reach for the lifecycle method of componentDidMount(). That's how I approach useEffect() these days: I'm loading a page, and it depends on dynamic data. The fact that useEffect() is being called automatically gives me a great spot to do my fetch. It's not a complex operation, and the timing is perfect. I think Jack Herrington does a great job on his channel of explaining many hooks gotchas.
@JaradDeLorenzo
@JaradDeLorenzo Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Came here to say this.
@aaronmotacek9343
@aaronmotacek9343 Жыл бұрын
Does JH have a specific video about hook gotchas? Discovered him recently and really like his videos.
@javajoint
@javajoint Жыл бұрын
@@aaronmotacek9343 First off: I think Kyle does a good job most of the time :) I wont post videos for other channels here. I would recommend searching within the channel.
@aaronmotacek9343
@aaronmotacek9343 Жыл бұрын
@@javajoint Understandable, I think the same. I subscribe to Kyle's newsletter and always try to check out his latest videos.
@miggu
@miggu 8 ай бұрын
yeah but I wouldn't have clicked through probably, so by creating a clickbait he has earned more viewers, I knew there was some gotcha anyway.
@ken_bekov
@ken_bekov Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the next video named "Stop using React in your React projects". This one is not clickbait enough 😉
@LSDsuperfruit
@LSDsuperfruit Жыл бұрын
ya, pure javascript for the win!
@theropoy9371
@theropoy9371 Жыл бұрын
Why I Don’t Use useEffect ... uses useEffect
@harmez7
@harmez7 Жыл бұрын
yeah, you can find this nasty disease everywhere
@LeungWong
@LeungWong Жыл бұрын
So basically use libraries which uses useEffect for you behind the scene. Or create custom hooks which uses useEffect. All because you don’t want to clutter your component with direct use of useEffect.
@TarasovFrontDev
@TarasovFrontDev 7 ай бұрын
I think it's enough. UseEffect makes uncertain rerender. And it's for good to avoid it.
@natalieeuley1734
@natalieeuley1734 Жыл бұрын
useEffect is my go to for components. It just makes the most sense. Callbacks and memos seem so finicky, but useEffect always just works exactly how you expect. When these things change, do this. It really doesn't get any simpler than that.
@dzajakeks5539
@dzajakeks5539 Жыл бұрын
*sees title* wtf is meaning of this now?
@yakmoon
@yakmoon Жыл бұрын
most of his vids are for dumb people who don't know what they are doing, some people take him seriously.
@KingTMK
@KingTMK Жыл бұрын
@@yakmoon Not true at all...
@superchrishovids
@superchrishovids Жыл бұрын
Would be great if you also did a followup video on how to extract the useEffect and create a custom hook
@jr-hp7er
@jr-hp7er Жыл бұрын
This is a great example, One more thing I would like to do in addition with the abstraction of the useEffect, is like creating a adapter pattern which can just define an interface and then via the contextprovider, we can provide that interface, and hide the actual implementations
@florianvo7616
@florianvo7616 Жыл бұрын
So essentially you‘re just putting the useEffects elsewhere into a custom hook. The main concern for custom hooks isn’t increasing readability but avoiding code repetition. That’s a good idea if the custom hook is gonna be used in multiple components but it’s a bad idea if it’s only gonna be used in a single component as all it does is forcing you to look into another file to understand what’s happening which actually makes the readability worse then.
@flowerofash4439
@flowerofash4439 Жыл бұрын
exactly what is in my head after watching the vid. readability is number one, and only then everything else
@panicbox4609
@panicbox4609 9 ай бұрын
Not if you have like 5 useeffects on the page all doing different stuff, if it's a custom hook its easier to see dependencies and also know what the custom hook is used for
@florianvo7616
@florianvo7616 9 ай бұрын
@@panicbox4609 I Stay to my point: You only benefit from a custom hook when it gets reused. Otherwise you are better off to not encapsulate your logic in other place than you use it. Only when you reuse you are simplifying and avoiding code repetition. Otherwise you are just spreading code without benefit and make program unnecessarily spread and complex
@florianvo7616
@florianvo7616 9 ай бұрын
@@panicbox4609 also when you have 5 super complex use effects in a component, maybe the component is doing too much?
@DevMadeEasy
@DevMadeEasy Жыл бұрын
Great Content, as usual, thank you so much for sharing it with us, I know how hard is to build a project then edit it, post... Thanks🙏
@DeepTitanic
@DeepTitanic Жыл бұрын
Is having a file that large best practice? Personally I'd prefer to have a component folder with everything broken down into smaller files. What's everyone's opinion on this?
@tima1301
@tima1301 Жыл бұрын
похуй
@dueft4479
@dueft4479 Жыл бұрын
I have a comment component that is about 300+ lines bc of a lot of event handlers and other stuff. I extracted it into several sub-components and created a hook for modifying server state. But there is somewhere a limit where I don't want to code-split it anymore. The only thing I could do further is to divide it into sections. But for me personally, that's not neccessary and I like to have it in one file. So my answer is as long as it is maintainable for you. Large components can be well maintained too.
@jeffreyjdesir
@jeffreyjdesir Жыл бұрын
I think it's ultimately best to make components as small, dumb and error resistant as possible, then build HOC from them as possible. Also hooks and controller logic should be separated into files completely I think, then used. Same with configs, types, and data. This can be a little tedious makes my code so much easier to think about and reuse in the future. Tailwind FTW
@DeepTitanic
@DeepTitanic Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyjdesir I totally agree although I wasn't sure if it was something I was over focusing on.. I just cant stand scrolling through multiple screens of code. Have to disagree on TW though I prefer writing plain CSS Modules. I've been waiting 10 years for CSS to get this good.. now no one wants write it anymore ;-)
@DeepTitanic
@DeepTitanic Жыл бұрын
@@dueft4479 Yeah there was definitely a point where I took it too far with too many imports and abstractions. Overall though I like to have each file only doing a couple of things at a time.
@benjaminthorne4157
@benjaminthorne4157 Жыл бұрын
Personally I like opening a component and immediately seeing the logic that is execute on-mount. I totally get the idea of hiding your useEffects in custom hooks but doesn’t this have the potential to make debugging quite tedious?
@narnigrin
@narnigrin Жыл бұрын
That's my immediate thought as well.
@the-iter8
@the-iter8 Жыл бұрын
I think kyle made this video for cleaning up the code and just structuring it properly.
@andresmontero7481
@andresmontero7481 Жыл бұрын
@@the-iter8 100% clickbait
@the-iter8
@the-iter8 Жыл бұрын
@@andresmontero7481 Of course it is
@subhamjaiswal8382
@subhamjaiswal8382 Жыл бұрын
But it will components very reusable. The logic layer and ui layer separated in twi pieces.
@MintAIO
@MintAIO Жыл бұрын
If anything, I'd argue having the useEffect related to a component in a different file is harder to read since you have to go and find that extra file.
@HaxxBlaster
@HaxxBlaster Жыл бұрын
It all comes down to if you will reuse the custom hooks or not. But yeah, what you are talking about is unnecessary indirection. One could argue that components should be small enough that specific hook logic to that component should not be put in another file. Having big components so you make a custom hook only make the component look smaller is an indication that the component is wrongly designed and should be split up.
@Sammysapphira
@Sammysapphira Ай бұрын
No it doesn't. Writing a semantically titled hook lets you know exactly what the hook does.
@jonathan.watson
@jonathan.watson Жыл бұрын
Kyle any chance you will publish the code shown in the video? the project looks interesting and as a beginner i'd love to take a look.
@nickwoodward819
@nickwoodward819 10 ай бұрын
would love to see you do a walk through of one of these projects explaining the code, that would be a great course
@JoaoPaulo-ox6pr
@JoaoPaulo-ox6pr 10 ай бұрын
I thought on a way to remove some of those with OOP yesterday, together with functional components which will only use these classes together with custom hooks, like by using getter methods, cause most of times we have a state that depends on another, then, we need to update this state when the another one changes, as the time passes, you'll have these useEffects executing when they shouldn't run, also, triggering other useEffects in the way, maybe even causing an infinite loop in the project. making the code so hard to write, i have this problem in my project now, but it's so big that it has become hard to even think in removing one useEffect.
@rv264
@rv264 Жыл бұрын
But what if you need to render the page/ run a fetch if a state or the use effect dependencies changes ? The basic use of useEffect , I.e loading of page when required shouldn’t be discarded too right ?
@robwatson826
@robwatson826 Жыл бұрын
That was a really interesting video. I’m fairly new to React and use useEffect basically on every page to handle first load stuff but abstracting it to nice clean custom hooks looks like a very cool idea. I shall be looking to implement this myself. A question though, how would you go about extracting a useEffect that sets multiple pieces of state that the component uses? I would really like to see a video of you refactoring that admin page you mentioned to move those useEffects out of the component. Keep up the great videos Kyle, hope you’re feeling better after your recent illnesses ❤
@TabuHana
@TabuHana Жыл бұрын
I think what you want is context. I would look up 'react useContext'. I'm not 100% sure, but even so it would be good to know! :)
@robwatson826
@robwatson826 Жыл бұрын
@@TabuHana Aah good shout, so the custom hook can access a Context that holds some global state?
@israelfagundes2
@israelfagundes2 Жыл бұрын
@@robwatson826 ofc
@pragmaticcodeodyssey
@pragmaticcodeodyssey Жыл бұрын
I just don't think they hiding your useEffect is necessary in custom hooks or otherwise some other way. I mean, we understand what useEffect does. This seems to be a biased suggestion of architecture that doesn't truly solve any problems. If you're having trouble reading them or feel like it is being misused, that's not to say the best logical move is to hide them or use them in a way that just overcomplicated things and makes debugging a nightmare. Perhaps a mixture of comments or just working on the readability of your code is the sufficient move to make here.
@richestofthejews8845
@richestofthejews8845 Жыл бұрын
correct me if i'm wrong, but components shouldn't be that large and contain so much functionality, logic and jsx in single component (like component at the start of the video). it should be decomposed into smaller helper functions and more smaller components
@harmez7
@harmez7 Жыл бұрын
right, Kyle is noob
@gbroton
@gbroton Жыл бұрын
@@harmez7most of the Internet teacher haven't seen properly written production code, as they only are Internet teachers
@SurajSingh-fg6eq
@SurajSingh-fg6eq Жыл бұрын
The way you explain things and your voice….. bro your amazing!!! Keep up the good work
@thesickandwounded
@thesickandwounded Жыл бұрын
So i've never heard this before and it is intressting but i dont really get why.. why i should put my useEffect in a costom hook inside the component if it's only being used there.. like why? Ok yea it looks better to just have a costom hook like checkUserLogin(user), instead of having a bunch of useEffects. But to understand what that costom hook does you still need to look through the very same useEffect code that you would if you just used it "inline" as u put it.
@Kayotesden
@Kayotesden Жыл бұрын
I use to think the same. Then I listened to a few videos by Uncle Bob. Highly recommended. The idea is to make your code easy to read & understand. While (I feel for f/e coding) its not realistic to write 5-6 lines of code per function, the idea remains that you should abstract out the logics into individual funcs/ components whenever possible. Its not always about making the code reusable, but also comprehensible.
@stephenbetley9596
@stephenbetley9596 Жыл бұрын
So basically this is another form of encapsulation. As the codebase increases this is a sensible methodology whether it's functional programming with React or OOP with PHP. The primary reason for useEffect seems to be in state change when aggregating data. The more reusable the better.
@HKRazieL
@HKRazieL Жыл бұрын
just another clickbait video
@TabuHana
@TabuHana Жыл бұрын
Would using a context be better or is that different in some way?
@con.x
@con.x Жыл бұрын
I am interersted in this topic, I have a Leaflet Map. My Map uses 10!! useEffects. 10 separate state variables that handle 10 different marker types on the map. This map has been bothering me for WEEKS... because I know its too cluttered. While this goes over what should be done, it doesnt really take a solid example of how to do it. Some of these are pretty long useEffects that set multiple types of elements on the map. Id love to see a good way to convert my useEffect into a custom Hook, taking a useState, the data from /resources/ and placing them into a /hook/ ... I have one that "looks" at one variable but sets two state variables, one that "looks" at two different state variable but only updates one. like these are all over the place. I really would love to clean this up and tidy it up. this project is massive, and the technical debt is only growing. What do you suggest? Do you have a video that could help show me a clear direction to convert this properly?
@geosystems2106
@geosystems2106 Жыл бұрын
I wish you had a simpler example for conversion, rather than the mega content you showed ;) yet, I will monitor the idea of using minimal hooks directly and use custom hooks instead 👍
@truceheat1671
@truceheat1671 Жыл бұрын
Just almost thought it's something new .. this is just use effect with extra steps
@noorulamin2652
@noorulamin2652 Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the use-cases. For instance in our case there are about 100 different pages and in every page there is a network request and in every page there are forms and in a lot places there are dependencies between form fields to check if one value exists then do this thing and vice versa. How are we gonna handle such a use case without useEffect?
@kipa_chu
@kipa_chu Жыл бұрын
yea. His advice only works for dumb web pages
@thecyberhobbit
@thecyberhobbit 8 ай бұрын
WDS.... "Why I Don't Use useEffect In My React Components" Also WDS.... "I use useEffect 16 times in this entire project"
@feralaca123
@feralaca123 Жыл бұрын
This are just opinions. In real life, the time to spend on this is not always given. Creating customs hooks for everything may be unnecessary. Usage of useEffect is fine and you should use it until the need for a custom hook makes itself evident.
@unlomtrash
@unlomtrash Жыл бұрын
it's rather a question about the splitting of your business logic from your html, just like you split styles from one
@thusithameedeniya9953
@thusithameedeniya9953 Жыл бұрын
can you provide the github link for this repo
@vlaxis3359
@vlaxis3359 Жыл бұрын
I think CoderOne's approach on writing a video title is much better. SOLID
@troygooden2525
@troygooden2525 Жыл бұрын
Looking @ some of the comments you quickly realize that.... having an opinion will always offend somebody. Thanks for the video and interesting take.
@seyiobafemi6915
@seyiobafemi6915 Жыл бұрын
This actually makes sense and is worth considering. Side note: Can we also see you play that guitar though 👍
@skkaushik7795
@skkaushik7795 Жыл бұрын
Do we get a chance to see the project. As to know what are best practices and how real world project is Structured and developed. Make some tutorials on things like this 🎉
@maurobagnoli3415
@maurobagnoli3415 Жыл бұрын
why do you use relative imports?
@MrRaj-qv7pg
@MrRaj-qv7pg Жыл бұрын
Can I get this full src?
@robocopfarmer2879
@robocopfarmer2879 7 ай бұрын
while the title is true, i felt it a bit misleading. I was kind of expecting to know why useEffect is not good within components because for example - causing multiple re-renders etc. But you are primarily referring to code refactoring and code reuse technique. Still, good tips.
@mateusz1486
@mateusz1486 Жыл бұрын
For me it only makes sense to create custom hook if you are gonna use it in multiple places
@The14Some1
@The14Some1 9 ай бұрын
Another reason is to give the hook a meaningful name. "useEffect" itself does not tell what exactly effect we're using and what is the idea behind it. Here you can observe, how the author uses wrapping hooks to encapsulate and name distinct logical units.
@josefaguilar2955
@josefaguilar2955 Жыл бұрын
"I wrote this all in one day" The perfect use case for useEffect: determining whether a dev had enough time to solve a problem or not.
@alanthomasgramont
@alanthomasgramont Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why i prefer using react-query instead of Redux. The logic is well hidden, easy to control and easy to implement.
@ninhdang1106
@ninhdang1106 Жыл бұрын
No more useEffect just to fetch data. Sadly it's still pretty much underrated with companies insisting on hiring people with Redux experience 😴
@alanthomasgramont
@alanthomasgramont Жыл бұрын
@@ninhdang1106 I just completed a contract using react-query and now I'm dreading using Redux again.
@davidbroadhurst8107
@davidbroadhurst8107 Жыл бұрын
Responding to events in event handlers and using react query mostly reduces the need for useEffect even in custom hooks.
@viraj_singh
@viraj_singh Жыл бұрын
It’s mostly style preference, hiding useEffect in custom hooks, but maybe good for large scale typescript applications with multiple developers of different seniority level.
@ninhdang1106
@ninhdang1106 Жыл бұрын
It should be the standard. Imagine walking into an existing project and you have to read every line of the useEffect to figure out what it does
@heddshot87
@heddshot87 Жыл бұрын
Alternate title: why I always refactor what's inside my useEffects
@TopBagon
@TopBagon Жыл бұрын
BS. No point in taking out useEffect from a component if you're still gonna use it in a custom hook. The syntax for it is actually pretty amazing and not hard to read at all + you know exactly when the code block will run just by looking at the dependency array.
@figloalds
@figloalds 2 ай бұрын
Kinda relief to see that I'm not an outliar making some eventual HUMONGOUS components, people speak so much about "you should split everything until you have a bazillion 6-liner files!!!!" and I'm like, boi, I have all context here, everything is like two slaps of mouse wheel away from each other instead of fucking file navigation!
@romanmed9035
@romanmed9035 Жыл бұрын
useEffect is used to run some actions once and probably repeat them later when the dependency changes. how can a custom hook do this if it runs every time the page is rendered?
@iury664
@iury664 8 ай бұрын
the point is to not stop using useEffect, but put them in a hook out of the component ?
@ruwantharatnayake5004
@ruwantharatnayake5004 Жыл бұрын
Its it a standard best practice to have ' ; ' to mark end of statement. I do not see nay on your code?
@Dev-Siri
@Dev-Siri Жыл бұрын
Its your preference, although I agree that using `;` is a good practice
@nomanmkhan
@nomanmkhan Жыл бұрын
Please make a video of full lage scale app with multiple endpoints using very less useffect
@jeffreyjdesir
@jeffreyjdesir Жыл бұрын
Lol. Y'all so savage 😂 he's technically abstracting the useEffect hook into HOFs that bring semantic context and separation to the reactive bits (solid.js makes this antiquated btw). It's part of SOLID, personally, I couldn't stand seeing a bunch of imperative logic in some function that I didn't make so I've used a similar pattern since I got comfortable with reactive UI. But I get the grievances, if you want literally no hook like reactivity (which really isn't reactive) then check out SolidJS
@eliyahutarab4862
@eliyahutarab4862 Жыл бұрын
Question:do you use Redux in this app
@nandantyagi
@nandantyagi Жыл бұрын
Kyle rocks! Keep up the good work man! (I learned a lot from the comments as well :)
@petersouthwell5971
@petersouthwell5971 Жыл бұрын
OR just use a Parent component that loads and handles the effects... And your components become view panels with properties. The properties get set by the "Loader" parent.
@stevendu06
@stevendu06 Жыл бұрын
I disagree, not everything has to be syntactic sugar, especially if you plan on using these hooks just once in your entire application. Hooks are great, should they be reused.
@louis-emmanuelisnardon8308
@louis-emmanuelisnardon8308 Жыл бұрын
Good practice ! Separate the effect logic from the component that uses it, to divide and rule. I will do it all the time now. Thank you !
@hazeion
@hazeion Жыл бұрын
Debugging sucks this way. And having to jump around to see where the code is sucks too if you are coming from the outside. Sure it looks clean but you'll eventually have to see that code somewhere anyway.
@vincend
@vincend Жыл бұрын
It's a good advice. Thank you
@seondongkim
@seondongkim Жыл бұрын
"Use custom hooks when possible" wouldn't have gotten my attention. Well done.
@kal9421
@kal9421 Жыл бұрын
I don't know useEffect is a great tool and I think you are using it the right way since you are synchronizing the state of a web api with your react state. I think what you mean is not to not use useEffect but simply to refactor your code and I advise you to give react query a shot. it's by far the best thing in react ecosystem
@mr.madushan
@mr.madushan Ай бұрын
It's "I don't kill people, but I hire someone else to do it for me" kind of situation.
@japanified
@japanified Жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes the newbish "if I hide it under the covers it is easier!" horror.
@ionutsandu5913
@ionutsandu5913 Жыл бұрын
What I understood from this video is that you don't use useEffect in your components but create a custom hook whenever you need a useEffect. I don't see what differece that would make in terms of functionality although I agree it could improve code readablity
@The14Some1
@The14Some1 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, to me the only reason is to give effects meaningful titles
@bullcodeprogramacion1493
@bullcodeprogramacion1493 Жыл бұрын
This is going to be a solid principle, isn't it? thank you for the video
@KeganVanSickle
@KeganVanSickle Жыл бұрын
So, in short, you prefer to abstract them away and write more declarative style. Good video, some considerations to think about.
@nabinsaud4688
@nabinsaud4688 Жыл бұрын
Is this a new project coming in KZbin ??
@ranadenish
@ranadenish Жыл бұрын
Didn't expected a clickbait from you Kyle!!! Turning off notifications until you prove yourself worthy once again!
@mohdshahzaib4094
@mohdshahzaib4094 Жыл бұрын
Did you make this video in the early morning😀?
@Deccoyi
@Deccoyi Жыл бұрын
So it is readability thing and you are not acutally "not using" useffect. You are just hiding it inside a hook. Does it effect performance ?
@sandrinjoy
@sandrinjoy Жыл бұрын
great insight broooo
@sivasankara7467
@sivasankara7467 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle. I came to know that you were sick. Everything clear, right? By the way, Great video.
@samuelabiodun2256
@samuelabiodun2256 Жыл бұрын
"Why I don't use useEffect" yet there's a bunch of useEffect in your code - Hilarious
@thielicious2156
@thielicious2156 Жыл бұрын
This is not a clickbait like some people think here. If you misunderstood that then it's because you didn't grasp the right context. He clearly mentioned why we shouldn't use it freely in components without wrapped up in a custom hook. It's about useEffect() in "React COMPONENTS" like stated in the title and not react in general. Also he said using fetch libs like for Firebase or React Query kinda takes a lot of work from you as those libs already do the useEffect()s for you under the hood and you don't have to code all the bloated request/fetch conditions by yourself. That's all there is to say to it, no clickbait.
@user-cd2vj8vh2z
@user-cd2vj8vh2z Жыл бұрын
You got the point
@sarahjeannexd
@sarahjeannexd Жыл бұрын
man I learned useEffect from Kyle, so I sincerely hope I'm not doing it wrong 😂
@EricWilliamsCG
@EricWilliamsCG Жыл бұрын
You're not. This is a code clean up video, not a don't use useEffect video.
@wrux
@wrux Жыл бұрын
That’s a massive component and the t looks like a mess
@josevsebastian2909
@josevsebastian2909 Жыл бұрын
1:56 Not to be a buzzkill, but you might wanna memoize those find on lists because otherwise you'd be searching the list on every single re-render. Not great for performance and definitely not needed, and easily rectified using useMemo
@koko5498
@koko5498 Жыл бұрын
So what about React Query?
@luiscazares8678
@luiscazares8678 Жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@muhayminkhan7063
@muhayminkhan7063 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell actually what is the main issue in using useEffect in a component and why do we need to move them in custom Hooks ? Is it because of a performance issue ?
@davorjovanovic7174
@davorjovanovic7174 Жыл бұрын
No, just better readability.
@muhayminkhan7063
@muhayminkhan7063 Жыл бұрын
@@davorjovanovic7174 Okay that's great
@awekeningbro1207
@awekeningbro1207 Жыл бұрын
a good react developer hides implementation behind hooks
@awekeningbro1207
@awekeningbro1207 Жыл бұрын
a dirty react developer spams useEffect wherever they please
@andiyonotandang656
@andiyonotandang656 Жыл бұрын
I'm checking my playback speed while watching this.
@AngusMcIntyre
@AngusMcIntyre Жыл бұрын
Is it fair to say that the golden rule is still 'wrap infrastructure code in domain abstractions'?
@Trazynn
@Trazynn Жыл бұрын
Can you shed some light on random image galleries?
@Stormface16
@Stormface16 Жыл бұрын
UseEffect queues? Is there any reason why useQuery was not used for this?
@iewebdevdes
@iewebdevdes Жыл бұрын
You're using Chakra-ui 😃. Nice!!
@multiwebinc
@multiwebinc Жыл бұрын
Wow, lots of hate for this one. I actually think it's a good idea extracting your useEffect calls to custom hooks for better separation of concerns and code readability.
@janpawedwa4590
@janpawedwa4590 Жыл бұрын
This video should be named "how to obfuscate your code for job security".
@allanperalta7984
@allanperalta7984 8 ай бұрын
I think the context of the tutorial is confusing. First of all, useEffect is one of the most useful hooks in React, in fact it is used to connect to an external systems such as DOM api(s) or third party libraries. The author probably trying to convey to refactor codes such that calling custom hook encapsulates implementation details of useEffect, but still doing so, developer needs to understand these details in order to utilise correctly.
@thatsinteresting8479
@thatsinteresting8479 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video on react query to that would be very helpful
@davi-alves
@davi-alves Жыл бұрын
Huge components should break down IMHO
@thechoosenman
@thechoosenman 6 ай бұрын
Actually, an appropriate title would be Custom Hooks in my React Component would sound the best. best practice of any programming starts with the naming as it will open the readability of the code base and the product domain.
@user-jn8eh1sq9g
@user-jn8eh1sq9g 2 ай бұрын
Although a lot of people in this comment section didn't really get it, sometimes on KZbin you need polarizing titles like this for exposure. It's immature to be triggered by clickbait nowadays that the KZbin algorithm is completely screwed up. But I do think it can be somewhat misleading for beginnners. Imho this pseudo-clickbait can be forgiven by the fact this video is actually good, it's showing separation of concerns and nicely demonstrates how to abstract useEffect into reusable calls. For the naysayers, if you splatter repeated useEffect calls for the same basic code structure all over your codebase you're not very much respecting the DRY principle. Don't be that guy... if you're repeating the same useEffect structure, do your team and yourself a favor and create a custom hook goddamn it.
@dbaby3288
@dbaby3288 Жыл бұрын
Brb going to remake my web app
@smally5739
@smally5739 Жыл бұрын
thats one gigantic project
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