Why I feel Sorry For John Walker | TFATWS Video Essay

[@45cal17]

Great vid bro! Love the editing too👌🏻

[@raytoshi3986]

Ayy thanks cal!😁

[@rannenw6207]

He wasn't murdered, He wasn't a victim. He was a super soldier terrorist that moments before tried to kill John, stopped John from helping Lamar, and threw a Concrete column at John with Civilians right behind John. As a US service member what he did was saw a threat for what is was. The man was a super soldier. Meaning he should be treated as armed and dangerous at all times. Imagine a terrorist with an AK. It wasn't me isn't a plea for surrender. It is a stalling tactic. I know the trainers I had did the same to us in shoot no shoot drills. He tried to stand multiple times before hand, and had his hands out in front of himself bracing for the attack.

[@Wolffman109]

HELL. YES.

[@undying_artv2]

And never once attempted to surrender

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

Exactly. John Walker’s only a villain here because of framing.

[@ArtemisKing2468]

​@KnuttyEntertainment People who watch this show keep falling for how the show frames the incident. The camera shots, the music, the "blood on the shield," the dude claiming "it wasn't me" even though he helped kill Lamar in the first place, and no one seems to actually look at the incident itself in the context of the narrative, wherein it's completed justified as the dude's a genocidal terrorist who has no qualms against killing innocent people.

[@enisberkaymert1669]

You're wrong at 1 thing. If John Walker had killed him with a assult rifle, this wouldn't be much of an issue but he killed that terrorist with the Captain's Shield, as a superhero. Was he wrong? No. The show gave too much credit to these building exploding, innocent people killing terrorist as good guys.

[@Ragnar_5522]

John Walker is one of my all time favorites. Nobody mentions the fact that he went through the worst of the worst in Afghanistan and was thrown into the role of Cap before getting the serum. His PTSD, the hate frim Sam and Bucky, and the humiliation from not being able to go toe to toe with super soldiers is enough to make anyone snap. He deserved the shield more than Sam. Hopefully we will get John having to forcefully take the shield from Sam like in the comics.

[@derek96720]

Sam and Bucky were total dicks to him and are at least halfway responsible for his decent into rage. Multiple times he tries to work with them, and they blow him off. They do illegal stuff, and he tries to STILL keep them out of trouble even though he doesn't have to. He respects them and their connection to Steve. But rather than use that connection to try and mentor the new Captain America, they just moan about a shield that both of them passed on and treat Walker like crap.

[@Ragnar_5522]

@derek96720 EXACTLY. Typical modern Disney writing.

[@anikabeauty547]

I have never watched the show but I believe that the flag smashers have the super serum. How is that victim defenseless? One surprise move from that guy, and Walker is dead.

[@Swagat_Mishra]

True. I just hate it when people say "John killed a surrendering terrorist. He's so bad." while completely ignoring that the same 'surrendering' terrorist threw a big concrete stuff at Walker which could have harmed him and possibly other civilians too.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@Swagat_MishraNot to mention tried getting back up multiple times.

[@demothiguillermo2059]

@@Lobsterwithinternet And wasn't saying any words that imply surrender, "It wasn't me" aren't surrendering words they're stalling words

[@SamaritanPrime]

(SPOILER ALERT) They do- and so does John. Earlier in the episode, one of the terrorists is confronted while carrying vials of super soldier serum. All are destroyed save one, which John pockets for later. We never see him take it, but we know when he does.

[@Mustang-wt1se]

War criminal? Yes. Defenseless? No, he was a super soldier

[@caseyhart4999]

John Walker has a lower body count than any of the avengers. He did nothing wrong. The “surrendering” flag smasher was still an active threat. The guy was a damn super soldier so he wasn’t unarmed and there were many people still around.

[@derek96720]

Right? How man normal human soldiers has Steven brutally killed? This crap is pure hypocrisy.

[@bethanywallace8575]

He was also a terrorist. Any empathy goes out window when u are a terrorist,imo

[@caseyhart4999]

Indeed

[@antoniogaravo9289]

@@bethanywallace8575 "what ? you mean that you don't have empathy toward people who target civilians and bomb public places ?" - the writters probably

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

​@bethanywallace8575 It isn't good to kill someone who isn't a threat. But the guy he killed was a threat

[@undying_artv2]

Only reason I "feel sorry for john" is because the fans think he's a villain yet hes a bloody hero and 100% cap

[@ElvenRaptor]

I dunno. I see a lot of other people who think he's the true hero.

[@undying_artv2]

@@ElvenRaptor people are starting to see sense for sure

[@nicholas2153]

Worse yet the show itself viewed him this way, its why Sam and Bucky were so hostile towards him.

[@undying_artv2]

@@nicholas2153 exactly they were more antagonistic than the supposes antagonist/ anti hero whos actually just a hero

[@bell5248]

the edits where he says he is cap and cap says he is steve are dumb lol john didn't want to become captain america and isn't experienced with it also he never met steve so he doesn't know what he is doing yet he did some of the most captain america things he is captain america

[@RealSlendyBoi]

I'm honestly gonna have to disagree on the fact that the man John killed was defenseless. That man was a Super Soldier who had killed dozens of innocent civilians, and would have most certainly taken hostages had John let him get away. Nor could Jaune have really safely apprehended the man. Like I said, they're a Super Soldier and have enough strength to shatter concrete/stone pillars and kill a Human with a single blow. John doesn't have access to any kind of handcuffs that the man wouldn't have just instantly shattered. Hell, that SAME MAN that John just killed was just moments before holding him down and preventing him from defending himself and almost allowed Carly to lethally stab/impale him. So all in all, I really think John did the only thing he could've done in that specific situation to limit civilian casualties and collateral damage. Otherwise, I think this was a well done video and I'm glad to see more people looking at and seeing John for who and what he really is, as opposed to some bloodthirsty villain who only thought they were in the right. I'd recommend checking out Clipped Coins video on this topic if you haven't already.

[@CaptainPikeachu]

The thing I’ve always said about John Walker is that in any other story, he would have been the underdog protagonist that everyone is cheering for, the one who has to try to prove themselves and eventually be the hero. But he’s not in that sort of story, he’s trying to be a hero in a narrative that has already decided that he’s doomed to fail as an antagonist. In order for Sam to rise as Captain America, John has to fall. His story thus becomes a tragic fallen hero narrative in many ways. He’s not a bad man, or evil, no matter what the narrative might try to manipulate an audience to think. He’s just a guy trying his best in a really shitty situation that he didn’t ask to be in and which he gets little support. I mean, the government sent him out to face a supposed global terrorist group and all he’s armed with is a metal frisbee and a handgun? The fact that the government didn’t even try to give him some super soldier serum after they knew they were fighting super soldiers is just sketchy, especially when you can’t tell the government don’t have access to some sort of serum given how many stuff they’ve tested over the years. So he’s a regular guy with no special powers or tech like Sam and Bucky, trying to face enemies that undoubtedly would outmatch him physically, it’s a miracle he held up as well as he did. It’s no surprise that he would try to level the playfield, anyone would. How can he protect the world and do his job if he can’t even physically protect himself? Now I don’t think John should have killed that Flag Smasher guy, that was clearly a wrong decision driven by grief and trauma, he should have arrested the guy. But I also do think it’s often forgotten that this same guy was holding John hostage so that Karli could stab him to death. So technically, he killed a guy who not only was his attempted murderer but also an accomplice to the death of his best friend. I think anyone in that situation would have reacted irrationally, hell, we’ve seen MCU heroes themselves make irrational mistakes over loss of loved ones. T’Challa repeatedly tried to kill Bucky outright during Civil War without ever considering a trial or due process either. And while you’re not wrong about the irony that the guy who’s a fan of the previous Cap is killed by the next Cap, I think it’s equally ironic that this Cap fan was actively helping to lure in and murder the next Cap. And I’m certainly not saying that John shouldn’t face consequences but I also think it very hypocritical that the narrative expects John to face consequences for his mistakes while the Avengers certainly aren’t doing anything about Clint having that 5 year murder spree and working for Kingpin, in fact, Clint’s story ends with him getting to hide his bad actions from any consequences. It feels like John is judged on a double standard and that for me adds to why I feel sorry for John. Because he just never had a fair chance. Sam and Bucky were never ever gonna accept him as Cap no matter how nice he was, and the other heroes (and fandom) would always see him as a thief and imposter even though it’s not his fault for that shield ending up in his hands. He tried his best under extremely terrible circumstances, and the only people that could help him that he actually tried to reach out and be cooperative with, would rather look at him like he’s gum on the bottom of their shoes. Sam had this whole speech about how “we can’t expect others to step up if we don’t meet them halfway” and ironically that’s how he and Bucky treated John the entire time, they expected him to constantly step up even though they refuse to meet him halfway. I fully believe that if Sam and Bucky had just given John a chance, they could have guided him into better decisions and avoided all the bloodshed. John does genuinely care about people, about protecting and helping people, no one earns 3 Medals of Honor without having done extraordinarily brave self sacrificing acts, acts that fall right in line with him trying to save the hostages on that truck and clinging onto it even as Karli and the other Flag Smashers try to pull him away. He has a good heart, he could make a good Cap if given a better chance and with guidance. Ironically, by tossing his DIY shield when he was saving the hostages, John proves that he could be worthy of that shield one day. And that he didn’t need the shield or the title to still be a good person or a hero.

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

The only thing I disagree with is about killing the flag smasher. Look up videos of military guys analyzing that scene. We only think Walker is in the wrong for killing the guy because of how the scene is framed, whereas other MCU heroes like Hawkeye, and even Falcon, get away with much worse without a thought. The guy is a known international terrorist who’s killed dozens of innocents, including John’s partner. He’s an incredibly dangerous super soldier that haphazardly throws massive chunks of concrete around trying to kill Walker. He tries to escape, Walker chases him down, but never stops trying to get up, buy time, and escape. Had Walker let him stand up, he would have easily rampaged through the large crowd of innocent people surrounding them, probably taking hostage for leverage. How is John supposed to arrest him? He doesn’t have hand cuffs, not that those would work against a super soldier anyway. He can’t just grapple this guy into submission and then drag him all the way to a police station, probably miles away. 1) the police don’t have the means to detain a super soldier with a regular jail cells. 2) he’s a super soldier that can kill with a single punch. If Walker ever lost his grip on the guy, or if he got a single lucky shot while trying to wrestle free, Walker is dead, and if not him, then one of the innocents in the crowd. 3) This is not what Walker is trained or tasked to do. He’s a soldier. His mission is to first and foremost eliminate any threats and stop the terrorists. His rules of engagement probably state that he ought to kill this guy given the dangerous situation. 4) he’s still on mission surrounded by other super soldier enemies. He needs to finish up with this guy quickly and then go give back up to his allies, which includes Sam, a regular vulnerable man who can be killed in one hit by these super soldier terrorists. If he doesn’t, then the leader of the terrorists and his friend’s killer will either escape, or come kill him while he’s occupied trying to restrain this other guy, just like what happened when Lamar died. The only reason Walker is seen as wrong is because he makes a face and ominous music plays in the background.

[@udbhavshrivastava]

Its like one year since it happened and I still feel John Walker was the best character in the series, In my opinion he actually is the most realistic and human captain america that we've seen. Not a perfect human being with perfect morals. But a flawed one, An actual human being with emotions and feelings, that affect what he does. I will always support and cheer him, It just fits that role of a normal guy trying to do good against enormous odds that I just love...sorta like how steve rogers was in the beginning lol.

[@Avenging_Archer]

This show is an excellent example of protagonist centered morality. John did nothing wrong. John is literally the only one who is heroic in what he's trying to do along with Lemar. But the second he's on screen people had this mindless reaction against him. Sam and Bucky are literal assholes for no reason to him. Bucky suggest literally assaulting him and stealing the shield from him after meeting him one time which was literally John saving his and Sam's asses. They go out of their way to block his investigation and make him fail. Literally the negative events that happen in the show including Lemar's death would never have happened if Bucky and Sam weren't such assholes and helped John who already has the weight of the world placed on his shoulders even though he has no superhuman powers or tech Sam and Buck would rather trust and be all super buddies with Zemo who is a literal murdered who ruined Bucky's life and also Sam who spent years on the run thanks to Civil War. Rather than trusting a literal goddamned hero trying to do right, Bucky chose to break out Zemo who killed King TChaka thereby spitting on the hospitality and kindness that the Wakandans showed him. Why? Because waaah petty manchild tantrums!! I think it's absurd this point of John killing a terrorist "on foreign soil". The show is extremely obtuse and clumsy with this police brutality analogy. John is NOT a Cop. He's a veteran counterterrorism special forces operator. IRL when counterterrorism finds terrorists they don't go and ask nicely if they want to surrender, they tactical airstrike the entire location. If the situation is such that they need to put boots in the ground then they show up at night in teams and shoot the everloving fuck out of anything that so much as even fucking moves, even if the terrorists in question are just harmlessly playing videogames in their pajamas at the moment. John killed a terrorist who attempted to murder him and aided in the murder of Lemar. I literally see nothing wrong with what he did and nothing of value was lost. He gets judged for killing one worthless terrorist but Zemo murdered a truckload of them (who John apprehended without harming them) and the shows presents that as being cool and likeable. Tbh almost every Marvel hero has WAY more heinous killings or bodycounts on their record but no one questions them.

[@McNoob5477]

Actually the person he killed was NOT a defenseless innocent war criminal. He is a super soldier. He is the weapon. Also he was not surrendering. At the time John Walker had to assume that this man had an intent of continuing the fight or escaping. Also when you see the man’s arms up. That is a defensive posture not a surrender. If he was surrendering he would have put his arms over his head or behind him. Also he could have been stalling to get Walker to hesitate, so he could get Walker off of him and escape. Also he is NOT a civilian. He is a part of the military who is carrying out government orders. In real life he had a duty to kill that man. Would you say the same for all the brace men who went to Afghanistan to kill the terrorists. Do you really think that the people in that situation were thinking about arresting the terrorists. No they had a goal to killing every single terrorist they could get. Walker is not different. So stop treating him like he was in the wrong for killing a terrorist.

[@bethanywallace8575]

If you could kill someone effortlessly with a single hit, you are considered armed and dangerous.

[@McNoob5477]

@@bethanywallace8575 exactly

[@Hashbrown1682]

Walker is the best character of the show. And has earned the right to be called Captain America.

[@PackRodent7]

John walker didnt even think he checked all the boxes to be captain America, im 90% sure he had a whole talk with his bff and gf about it in the show unless he want complaining about the strength issue

[@tomlindsay77]

Bro Steve killed hundreds of people So has John walker in his tours in the middle east

[@bethanywallace8575]

It annoyed me to no end taht Sam rejected shield, so it was given to walker then Sam and everyone got all butt hurt about it, and treated John like some horrible person. You didn't want it, Sam! So shut up! And the pushed messaging in this show really got grating. Like that cop wanting ro arrest Sam, and not recognizing he's one of the people who helped save millions of people, and is affiliated with the avengers, Like, no. And also, Sam is dressed nicely and looks completely normal. But this cop just assumes Sam must be a gangster criminal just cause he's black? Such a straw man.

[@HighPhoenix1754]

@@bethanywallace8575 yeah, a bit late to the party but.. John did (almost) nothing wrong. The only thing I will fault him for is killing the flagsmasher. NOT because it was wrong, but because it was suboptimal. Keep him alive, run him for ALL of the info they can drag out of him. Punish him to the FULLEST extent of the law. But tbh, I do not fault him. It was the heat of battle. SAM EVEN SAYS THIS IN THE NEXT EPISODE. This show, how do you write so badly that you make me end up hating one of my favorite heroes in the MCU (Sam), while having me side with someone I barely know (Walker)?

[@Benitheeboss1]

Well I agree on messaging ,But sadly it is reality that the police would be suspicious of black men regardless of where they are 🤷‍♀️

[@Koronoir]

@@HighPhoenix1754 The dude wasn't trying to surrender so wasn't really in the heat of the moment, John did the right thing, sam is douche ass hole that doesn't and NEVER will deserve the title of captain america.

[@HighPhoenix1754]

@@Koronoir It's called the Heat of Battle. And yes, it very much was the heat of battle, along with his best friend's death that lead him to kill the flag smasher. Again, I never argued that it was wrong, only suboptimal. Steve Rogers has undeniably done worse and we don't fault him. Lol Finally, Old Sam, not whatever skin walker took his place in this show, deserved the shield. I stand by that. Thank you for your time.

[@Koronoir]

@@HighPhoenix1754 Which part of the old sam deserved the shield? NEITHER versions of him deserved that. The heat of battle, I will stand by: The dude didn't surrender, Steve Rogers did worse(literally killed many directly and indirecly, civilians and not) returning to the point, the heat of battle when the person didn't surrender, and when there was no way to cuff the super soldier and with others super soldiers in the surrounding(Karli Literally was shown around the scene CLOSE to Sam and shitty blind bucky), Again, super soldier, with no real way to cuff them by yourself(even when John had the serum he would end up needing to kill him would be just another scene), no way to cuff, no way to interrogate(although the dude literally trew his leader under the bus to try to save himself, but still no way to believe he would say anything, he was just stalling, which luckly didn't work). So which part was exactly save to end the flag smasher? after he tried to stall or after he stall for time and run away, or after possibly John trying to cuff him, then flag smasher would then try to run(which either way, Zemo a normal human uncuffed himself, so cuffed or not it basically nothing). Still not the heat of the moment, there's no optimal way to not finish the flag smasher.

[@Marcell2aG]

I personally don't like how cold Sam and Bucky treated John when he introduced himself. Sure, John could've reacted with less emotion, but I understand how he got to his breaking point. John didn't steal the shield, it was given to him, and he worked his butt off to prove he was worthy of it. I think things would've gone much better had Sam and Bucky collaborated with him the first go round.

[@Phantom24-w3c]

the shot of walker holding the bloody shield goes hard af slap that on a comic book and it would be a hit

[@undying_artv2]

I liked this video however if you think he murdered the terroist then soldiers in wars and on tours murder and should all be put in jail for their crimes

[@commanderponds8308]

0:40 I think you got this wrong. He’s no Steve Rogers, but he definitely was Captain America

[@metalgearhank]

personally i wouldn't call the guy he killed defenseless. considering they took the super soldier serum, that makes him a walking weapon. jus my opinion tho

[@thetypingavocado574]

great video! he's my favorite new character in the mcu. his actions were unjustifiable, but they were understandable, for his character. he's really complex

[@raytoshi3986]

exactly what I was thinking, glad you enjoyed it!

[@undying_artv2]

His actions are entirely justified

[@Wolffman109]

@@undying_artv2 Damn straight.

[@Dimmary]

Agreed 👍 People shit on him so much .

[@AdeptKing]

They wanted us to see him as the bad guy but then they didn't really make him bad. In the process they made Bucky and Sam look like jerks who really just can't stand the idea of someone holding the shield that isn't Steve or them. Even though Sam was the one who gave the shield back to the government.

[@YVD619]

I support John walker

[@Swagat_Mishra]

Same here bro. He wasn't the ideal Captain America but he surely was a true soldier who did everything he could as his service.

[@joscar062]

​@@Swagat_Mishrabut he earned the rank of captain unlike Sam and Steve where it was just given to them like a title Whereas Sam can't fight without his gadgets and Steve was rejected from enlisting multiple times

[@Swagat_Mishra]

@@joscar062 True. Walker was a real deal even before being Captain America.

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@Swagat_Mishrahe was made a punching bag in Zdarsky’s Daredevil

[@devanshsrivastava3171]

John (and Battlestar) is/are the only heroes in the show and him taking the "victim" 's life is completely justifiable, the guy never surrendered, attacked civilians and he WAS ARMED (with the serum) and not to mention he was part of an active terrorist group Sam and Bucky feel more like a villains than heroes in most scene, while whenever John is on scene it feels like watching an actual hero in his very early heroic life MCU's John Walker was Captain America and thats a fact Is Sam Captain America? yes but John is way more deserving of the title than Sam ( atleast as they are portraited in this show)

[@Chu_Chu_CHUMIMIN_Fridge]

My biggest gripe is when people say that terrorist was defenseless. I’m sorry, but no, if you can toss around a damn car on a Tuesday, buddy, you are the weapon. And also, are we all watching the same movies? Steve has killed way more people as Cap than Walker has, the difference is Walkers was more brutal and in public, but Steve has killed a lot of people, he doesn’t strive for it, and try’s to avoid it when he can, but when he’s pushed, he’ll absolutely kill if he deems it necessarily. And finally, walker’s situation was far far worse than most the times Steve has killed, walker was dealing with a super soldier who can toss around concrete pillars like it’s nothing, one attack when walkers off guard and it’s joever, they were surrounded by a huge amount of people who could have been harmed(flag smashers are not above harming innocent people.), and there were many many other flag smashers in the area and walker had no means of safely dispatching the flag smasher without killing him, if he spent a long time trying to hold him down or KO him without killing him, the other flag smashers in the area could have gotten back to it, it was a Lose lose situation, and walker made one of the only logical decision, it was out of rage, but even while he was blinded by rage, he still made the most logical decision in killing the flag smasher and dealing with the threat, he could have handled it better, but it’s what he did, and what he has been taught his entire life as a soldier to do. And final note, the flag smasher was NOT surrendering, he was making a run for it into a crowd of innocent bystanders, he also never said he was surrendering, simply that he didn’t kill Lamar, as if that defuses the situation in any way.

[@mileslugo6430]

It seemed silly that the Political Boards would strip him for something that i think other soldiers might not be repremanded for. Considering his fame perhaps that's what had to happen, But imagine if he was tried by a board and was allowed to keep his position. Do you think John Walker would? TBH, i think he would abdicate if shown how his Capt. America would be presented.

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

From a military perspective, John was 100% justified. The only reason he would be punished is if the incident became a PR nightmare, which would just show the gov’t is corrupt and making Walker take the fall.

[@JonahFinch-li7zn]

I think most of flaws in his behavior were just the writers wanting him to be the bad guy and putting in those things to make him look back but it comes of as hypocritical on falcon and bucky’s parts

[@ragedgrunt]

I know this video is old but still, "Defenseless war criminal" Is not how i would describe a super soldier who could whip a pebble at any moment and have the same force of a bullet behind it. The guy was a terrorist war criminal, they don't usually get to come back in handcuffs

[@magnum567134]

A lot of people talk about how his redemption wasn't earned because he was shown as a villain throughout the course of the show. But personally, I never saw it that way at all. He was someone that was told he could be Captain America because of history of achievements, but caved under the pressure. He wasn't Steve Rogers, and could never truly be, and none of the other characters let him forget that

[@zaxx]

Dude. He's the only character to come out a terrible show, without becoming terrible. Yeah, victim. Right. Take your posh accent and co-sign for Falcon to get a boat loan. The series doesn't happen. We're all better off.

[@raytoshi3986]

@@zaxx I'll get right on that😂

[@gogakaman1958]

lost me with the defenseless part a body that can be used as a weapon, how's that defenseless... he's not some unassuming guy that got sucker punched... he's just there laying down and could've done many possible escapes as long as Walker had his guard down and btw, as if faking a surrender to let somebody's guard down isn't a thing... and if that happened, heh, he could've killed many people by the time he was stopped again

[@ClarenceDass]

I love John Walker. He's my favourite new character from this new phase of Marvel. He's a proper flawed hero and we need more of those.

[@MysticTroll]

Actually the War criminal being a super soldier means his whole body is the weapon

[@JuneBruh]

My brother, commenting for the algorithm

[@JuneBruh]

Your vids are great

[@raytoshi3986]

@@JuneBruh thank you🥲

[@Hawko1313]

the reason i sympathize with John is because i can see the heavy hand of the writers trying so hard to make us percieve him as a bad person. Everything about this show was just laid on so thick, to the point where the show would go on tangeants to demonstrate their poorly integrated ideology. They COULD have actually just made walker unlikeable, they COULD have made Carli sympathetic. But they didn't show us either of those things. They showed us the opposite, and then Sam and Bucky told us how to think. the inverse of show dont tell. I really enjoyed the series, but there were multiple times i had to pause it and do something else from just how contrived some of the character interactions were.

[@nategraham6946]

False, he is Captain America, and the right person to inherit the shield and title.

[@nategraham6946]

That is what soldiers do, they kill/destroy they enemies.

[@johncy11]

You felt sorry for a terrorist who possess super powers 😢

[@thomasweeden2683]

Excellent video!

[@raytoshi3986]

Thanks!

[@bell5248]

the edits where he says he is cap and cap says he is steve are dumb lol john didn't want to become captain america and isn't experienced with it also he never met steve so he doesn't know what he is doing yet he did some of the most captain america things he is captain america also calling a superhuman defenceless when literally minutes prior one killed a way above average man in just a punch earlier is hysterical

[@popejpv]

John literally did nothing wrong at any point in the show

[@petarhajder45]

I like the video, short but detailed

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

Chip Zdarsky made him a punching bag, poor guy

[@seanthesheep9652]

I literally have a crush on John Walker.

[@Alex-the-Cicada]

I think Falcon+ Winter Soldier series messed up on the writing and directing of the heroes and villains. The flag smashers started with good intentions, but then all of a sudden they became okay with killing civilians and that muddles their mission. I wanted the show runners to make John walker the villain. Someone headstrong and overconfident, terrible under pressure, Jingoistic and obsessed with the mission and neutralizing the enemy. But the foreigners had to be bad guys, and the American had to be a good guy with some flaws that ultimately redeemed himself. I think if they didn't fumble US agent and the flag smashers it would have been more satisfying

[@workingman9019]

You don't understand John Walker.

[@niladrimukhopadhyay9360]

John is one of my most favourite grey characters in MCU

[@nickelakon5369]

He's not morally grey at all though, he never does anything morally questionable until he has a forced dilemma at the end that doesn't fit with his previously established character at all.

[@Kaprosuchus-99]

John is way more blatantly heroic and In the Right than any of the protagonists in the Fourth phase, he is Not Morally gray

[@niladrimukhopadhyay9360]

@@Kaprosuchus-99 Morally grey means the people are neither good nor bad yes John Walker tried to actually do good even though he was snubbed by Bucky and Sam for something that wasn't his fault which he didn't deserve at all however he is flawed man unlike Steve who's emotions and grief got the better of him and he murdered the criminal who had already surrendered and had nothing to do with his friend's death . Morally Grey characters are capable of doing both good things and doing horrible things as well

[@theroyalsus8856]

U def needs more subs and likes

[@raytoshi3986]

thanks man I appreciate the comment!

[@brianbergin-ortega5549]

John wasn’t a bad person I personally didn’t like him because I felt like Sam deserved the shield and Steve who is my favorite cap chose him so for John to have it was a punch to the face

[@undying_artv2]

You gotta make more videos brother

[@Yharic]

most people hate his character seeming not realizing that your not suppose to like him i think the fact that he make a bad captain America was great

[@Indy44636]

Makes sense keep in mind they are from the usa where we have a split govt . Not only that but steve was a good man . While karli had strong motives ,but went about delivering her message the wrong way.