'Why I glued my hands to the floor of the Oxford Union' | Kathleen Stock protest

Riz Posnett explains their side of the trans debate to Jane and Fi on #timesradio
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[@mariaf4643]

i have listened to kathleen stock a number of times. not once have i ever heard her say something that would incur violence, she does NOT use hate speech, but considered, articulate arguments and debates. the only violence that i can see comes from the trans activists, against kathleen stock and other women who all have reasonable arguments. it is not trans people who are being targeted, but women certainly are

[@elliottso6949]

wellsaid

[@G-host0069]

Men are being attacked. Passive aggression is still aggression 😉

[@nakedenby]

Women are not being targeted. Completely false. Gluing hands to the floor is not violence.

[@thewerewolfofnorway437]

@@nakedenby neither is calling a trans woman a man.

[@nakedenby]

@@thewerewolfofnorway437 Doesn't stop at childish name calling tho' does it.

[@fifidownunda]

At 19 years of age she knows everything . . . that is the problem with this generation of non-resilient safe-space seekers. It's tragic.

[@ApacheMagic]

Happens to every generation at that age. I’m old enough to know. Been The joke has around forever- if you want to know anything, ask your teenager while they still know everything. Most grow out of it but the damaged ones just grow up to become proper narcissists.

[@nakedenby]

Age has no relevance whatsover to the topic. I'm three times her age and agree completely with what she says and so do many people of ALL ages. I don't need to know your age to recognise bigotry.

[@Old_Scot]

We all thought that at that age. The difference is, no-one actually listened to 19 year olds in the 1980s! 😄

[@arthurmackrell8154]

Why does it go to University if it already knows it all?

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

Safe spaces seems too much like building a moat around fragile egos that are attached to unrigorous ideas

[@beemacs7282]

"Her views are really dangerous" How???? This young woman clearly has no concept of what constitutes danger.

[@lasttango7522]

Young white working class boys are high on the suicide data. Lets talk about that shall we. White priveledged spoilt woman.

[@ProfessorChocolateCake]

Because she has lived a sheltered life.

[@juskahusk2247]

Anyone who thinks there is nothing to worry about is incredibly naïve.

[@nakedenby]

Like any perpetual harrassment, discrimination and abuse, transphobia destroys real lives. Tens of thousands of lives. It breaks apart families and relationships and poisons future generations. If you don't think encouraging that is dangerous then I'm worried about you.

[@Zikar]

@@nakedenby Is your argument that disagreeing with trans activists is encouraging abuse? Are you saying that everyone blindly and uncritically agree with trans activists is the only way to prevent abuse?

[@blackmichael75]

You can tell she has had a completely sheltered, middle class existence in a leafy suburb and nothing unpleasant has ever happened to her, so that whenever she hears a contrary opinion she experiences it as a trauma.

[@donatocapodiferro6038]

you are wrong about that...the young lady activist is a rich kid that need to please her narcissistic needs with such action...she goes to Oxford University and I don't know if you are aware of those fees and what is needed to be in such a school...

[@nicholasvladd]

Trauma hound

[@bryonywelch]

@@donatocapodiferro6038 I think Oxford University has the same fees as most other universities, for undergraduate degrees. I know people who attended Oxford University who are definitely not rich.

[@donatocapodiferro6038]

@@bryonywelch got ya! However is indeed a wealthy one according to data on her....and Riz is indeed a spoiled brat as you can see on her body language....

[@peanutbutterbruv]

​@@donatocapodiferro6038I'm guessing you are American? Middle class means something quite different in the UK. The closest the US has to a similar concept is Bourgeois.

[@laf4891]

She doesn’t answer any questions. I don’t think she understands the question she’s just talking nonsense.

[@richardgreenhough]

She is a silly girl. She is intelligent, as we would expect at Oxford Uni. It's all about how she feels and nothing about facts. Her whole narrative is so self-indulgent. She needs to get her room in order. Misguided person with ability and no real experience.

[@Typhoneus.]

She literally answers all the questions.

[@megazw7740]

They always parrot the same regurgitated buzz lines. It's funny when you start seeing it.

[@englandcalling9721]

You do not help and protect children by giving them the freedom to make decisions they are simply too immature to make. Rather than seek closure, with potentially irrevocable actions, we should value uncertainty and the time to discover who we truly are.

[@KH-aug]

*Absolutely* irrevocable where medicalizing's involved.

[@jovialnobody]

It's insane that this very basic point about human development and how children are vulnerable and need safeguarding because they're at the very onset of that development cycle needs to be explained to these people, what's even more insane is that it tends to go over their heads every time.

[@englandcalling9721]

@@jovialnobody Also those opposing Stock, ironically, play into the hands of anti-trans and anti LGBT movements, giving them the sound bites they crave.

[@nakedenby]

Agreed, but that's not what they're doing and that's not what's happening. You, like many, have been misinformed so not your fault. The massive volume of disinformation out there originates from sources who don't think there should be ANY transgender people - they are not truly concerned about children.

[@TheAArmstrong]

@@englandcalling9721 I honestly believe the actual percentage of people who have an issue with this, would be fairly high. And it wouldn’t be majority transphobes either. Just people who think this movement is going waaay too far.

[@marymungleandmidge4080]

She said a lot, but she also said nothing, because she has no idea what she is talking about, none of what she said is backed by facts. She is also a privileged young women who has never worked a day in her life. She goes on about protecting kids, but she wants to let them make life changing decisions as children to take puberty blockers (Frankenstein drugs). She is also a Gen Z, so very influenced by social media, she has never known a time without it.

[@lasttango7522]

She is an elite who has weird ideology. She doesn't speak for my kids. No she is not resilient she isna coward. Thats why she talks about safe spaces. Her views are reprehensible and beyond dangerous. Spoilt nasty brat.

[@stephenstrange4239]

Gen z are dumb

[@nakedenby]

You'd like that all to be true to fit your narrative. How do you know she's a 'priviledged' person? 'Frankenstein' drugs? Well we know where you stand don't we? lol. I grew up long before social media and I share her views absolutely but I'm 'influenced' by facts, evidence and a medical education.

[@Sabrina-gf2zk]

​@@nakedenby Piffle

[@nakedenby]

@@Sabrina-gf2zk Another articulate and eloquent post illustrating the cognitive ability of transphobes.

[@memofromessex]

Big men in knickers aren't the most vulnerable people in society.

[@nakedenby]

You carry on making comments in this vein. You're doing wonders for gender critical ideology.

[@tammyiswicked]

I agree. If you’re brave enough to go out as a huge man in a dress, then you are not vulnerable. 😂

[@tammyiswicked]

@@nakedenby why do all you weirdos have perverted names? Sex obsessed much?

[@nakedenby]

@@tammyiswicked Ignoring your infantile remark about clothing, bravery and vulnerability are not mutually exclusive. In fact many vulnerable people exhibit immense bravery. That you think they can't co-exist further emphasises your clearly low IQ.

[@grahamcook9289]

No more dead trans kids? This silly young woman is the one making that more likely with her promotion of false trans ideology.

[@easyreader6179]

Sterilising gender non-conforming kids is what is being pushed by Big Pharma. These people are crazy encouraging puberty blockers and cross sex hormones for people who are too young to buy cigarettes and fireworks because they are dangerous.

[@sewfairyadhock8618]

Kathleen is a beacon of hope in the midst of this madness. Riz will grow up eventually.

[@nakedenby]

Yes, a beacon of hope for the ultra right transphobes, bigots and TERFs. You will grow up eventually.

[@woudwilder8324]

Nah, people like that are hopeless...

[@LizaFan]

Infantilizing trans people as always, namely those assigned female. They can only be dupes of the patriarchy. It cannot be that they have sincere disagreements, because, as Stock claims, "most people agree with me."

[@mickyday2008]

She should’ve glued her mouth shut

[@fionam.1784]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@judithmorganjudyteen]

😂 all you hear is word salad from them

[@Laureee578]

Yeah, might have got more sense out of her 😅

[@lal2300]

Should have left her glued to the floor; turned out the lights ………….. and released the spiders 🕷️ 🤨😂

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

Riz claims she hates attention. This claim makes me suspicious of everything else she said.

[@RC-qf3mp]

Disagreeing with trans activists is hate speech, violence. Opening up a rational debate is out of the question because any serious questioning is a “dog whistle”. This is the dumbest public debate since creationism.

[@petermaclellan9977]

Well said, wish they would glue her lips together :-)

[@luckyyyinlove]

Creationism is truth. Name one thing in existence that you know of that starts without a point of origin. I'll wait. Atheists aren't as smart as they think they are; they assume impossible probabilities against our Creator.

[@sandrajohn9837]

​@@petermaclellan9977 😂

[@ApacheMagic]

It’s very religious

[@irongalaxy3720]

It wasn't a debate. It was a platform for Stock.

[@susiegluxman9041]

Riz contradicts herself so many times during this interview. The one that stands out is trans people have to wait up to 10 years for treatment but it is lifesaving care for kids. If people are managing to go 10 years without treatment and not dying I think they will be just fine. Puberty is not a disease, and there is no wrong puberty and no one recreates the opposite sexes puberty from opposite sex hormones. No medication or surgery exists that can hack nature, sorry children. The adults need to come back into the room and assure these children and young adults that reality is just fine and nothing to be scared of.

[@ProfessorChocolateCake]

Look how miserable they all are after the surgery as well.

[@susiegluxman9041]

@@ProfessorChocolateCake exactly. What person in their right mind is made happier by mutilating healthy body parts? Medical industry is once again preying upon the mentally ill, weak and the most impressionable, children.

[@nakedenby]

There's no contradiction there. As you probably know full well, gender affirming care covers a broad range of interventions from simple assessment and counselling, thru' puberty blockers (if appropriate) to cross sex hormones and surgery (if appropriate). A waiting time of 10 years is quite typical for actual treatment, regardless of age. Who said puberty was a disease? Well actually precocious puberty IS regarded as something requiring blockers to delay onset but anyway, if after lengthy assessment a child and their clinicians confirm that transition is the route to follow then delaying puberty is a perfectly reasonable thing to do and the majority of the world's medical and scientific experts agree. Kathleen Stock's personal experience might have shaped her own views but the evidence completely contradicts her supposition about affirming care being available in her childhood. In fact her entire position is at odds with the mainstream medical consensus. It's clear from your post that children are merely an excuse and you simply don't believe transitioning is possible. Essentially denying the existence of any trans people. Your framing implies you have a limited understanding of gender. That isn't necessarily your fault, and so long as those remain only your personal opinions then your entitlement to hold those beliefs should be respected. Where the line gets crossed is when an already very vulnerable minority is disrespected, abused and discriminated against. Likewise, where deliberately false or misleading information is disseminated to further the political aims of those who just don't like the idea of trans people, or are weaponising them for wider political agendas. The majority of people trying to obstruct affirming care for children are transphobes who don't think transgender people should exist. They are transparently trying to disguise their disgust as 'concern' for children, in the same way as TERFs disguise theirs as 'concern' for women.

[@chrisbfreelance]

​@@nakedenby You use "If appropriate" twice, young impressionable people are indoctrinated into believing it's appropriate, it's fundamentalism. It's also incredibly naive to think medical professionals across varying fields, aren't just doing it because they are chasing the coin. It's no different to big pharma, let's treat everything with a pill.

[@chrisbfreelance]

​@@nakedenby And no, transitioning isn't possible, it's simply a modification.

[@catfishfortesque-smythe437]

When trans people and their advocates talk of "constant harassment", they often mean "people are not blindly agreeing" with them, or following their own self-view. Interviewers really should look into these claims of "constant harassment", asking for examples, evidence, rather than allowing that to be an unquestioned narrative. There is a reason why many trans people had a high level of suicide and self harm; there are mental issues and a high degree of flawed perception involved, and previously this was widely recognised, and gender dysphoria was treated primarily through psychology and counselling. Not chemicals, surgery, and encouragement to believe something that is scientifically incorrect.

[@davereid-daly2205]

Scientifically incorrect🤣🤣 have you researched the genetic science involved ???

[@snappingbear]

@@davereid-daly2205 What's your point exactly? What does "genetic science" have to do with the OP's arguments? They are right in claiming the TRAs have no argument other than unscientific, emotional appeals.

[@jiminverness]

@@davereid-daly2205 Think Frankenstein.

[@nakedenby]

So you believe the existence of trans people is wrong and you don't believe they suffer high levels of harrassment? Has it not occurred to you that you might be part of the problem?

[@chrisbfreelance]

And the 'science' is supported by those who can make a very substantial income from it, but that's purely coincidental of course.

[@garysmith3173]

If, as this person claims it takes up to 10 years to obtain gender reassignment on the NHS why are they giving teenagers puberty blockers? Did they apply at age 5? Ridiculous,immature,naive statement. Them/they hates all the attention? Looks pretty smug to me.

[@judithmorganjudyteen]

Narcissistic

[@daniaratiba6443]

indeed, forget about the Tavistock and the current investigation of susie green >

[@ApacheMagic]

@Eclipse did you know that almost 100% of kids GiDS started on PBs went on to hormone treatment? It’s a one way funnel for most kids unfortunately.

[@helendancelot]

This young woman is exceedingly dull and misguided

[@mikehunt.1609]

I think you have revealed what is really going on here. This is just very ordinary dull people not coming to terms with this fact and so consequently make a total nuisance of themselves.

[@nakedenby]

@@mikehunt.1609 So in your world, standing up for equality is 'making a nuisance of themselves'. Ok.

[@kamaliancirranoush1916]

@@nakedenbywhat specific inequalities are you talking about? Bio males accessing womens spaces is not an inequality.

[@nakedenby]

@@kamaliancirranoush1916 Your comment screams rabid tansphobia, ignorance and bigotry. I will not dignify it with debate. Don't bother me again.

[@kamaliancirranoush1916]

@@nakedenby you call me ignorant, but make no attempt to provide any facts, only personal attacks. Can you provide any examples of inequalities? Or is name calling, redirecting the conversation and running away your only tactic?

[@amandamcgovern5744]

It’s honestly difficult for me to wrap my head around how someone ends up so incapable of critical thinking or perspective shifting

[@whatisourchildrenlearning]

If you were capable of critical thinking and perspective shifting, perhaps you'd understand people incapable of it. (A silly joke, sorry! 😂)

[@ZONA_ZERO_OFFICIAL]

She say Muslims are bad ? We can sue them … this government need to loose full custody of himself for having this type of employees damaging his reputation with this type of behavior and he can defend himself by himself And this is the reason why we hire AI to take full custody of him and everyone else like him Such as public private politics, religions, sciences, governments etc… For negligently not controlling their employees from hurting themselfs kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqDbgIxun557fs0si=aPqo5Ipe1WNiEvbp

[@ParaplegicSloth]

The activist talks about honest conversation and dialogue,but only after gluing a hand to the floor to stop honest conversation and dialogue……Also, the bit about protecting trans kids was really scary. Children need protecting from ideology like that. A trans person is someone who must be mature enough to decide what they are for themselves. Generally speaking, this cannot be children.

[@sandrajohn9837]

​@@matt76716 You have to understand how threatening and hurtful it is to be told that you did wrong. 🤣

[@nakedenby]

There's no 'ideology'. It's just gender. Don't you think it should be left to qualified and experienced medical professionals and parents to decide if a child can make informed decisions? Contrary to transphobic messaging, children are not having surgery or irreversible drug treatments.

[@thewerewolfofnorway437]

@@nakedenby this is why we don't want you creeps near our kids.

[@w.sommen5209]

@@nakedenby so thats why Tavistock is under investigation now is it? Because they didn’t give „ genderaffirming care“ to young children!

[@Old_Scot]

@@nakedenby Why don't you read up on the Tavistock Clinic?

[@Ps5GamerUk]

These people seem to be determined to stifle free speech

[@coreydolan3239]

Because they know nothing.

[@punkrachmaninoff]

@@coreydolan3239 ironic that YOU think that when you don't know any trans people though... lol

[@thecount3965]

you seem determined to stop someones freedom of speech of gluing their hand to the floor. the bigot could have carried on with her little hate speech if she wanted to, she decided not to.

[@Old_Scot]

They're the direct image of the religious right in the US. "If you don't agree with me, you're oppressing me, and if you disagree with me you're guilty of hate speech. And nothing I disapprove of should ever be discussed"

[@ads998]

@@Old_Scot Agree. Authoritarianism can be topical and much as political.

[@coolmacatrain9434]

Riz Posnett is the type of zealot who decided who went to the gulags and who went to the firing squad ... all for the good of society, you understand.

[@andreajones7023]

Sterilising kids is inherently wrong. They are now calling it 'gender incongruence'. Which is if kids play with the 'wrong' toys or want to wear the 'wrong' clothes, they are put on a pathway that leads to a lifetime of drugs and medical procedures, all for nothing really. This is preposterous. The medical scandal is going to be huge.

[@lasttango7522]

And we need to show our Rizz as the advocate. See how history describes her.

[@mrnice7570]

These monsters must be stopped

[@nakedenby]

What's 'preposterous' is that someone has told you they're sterilising kids, and worse - that you believed it without checking widely available evidence.

[@thewerewolfofnorway437]

@@nakedenby checkout the 4pt Swedish docos, "The Trans Train", and "A Girl Named Leo". You might actually learn something.

[@ApacheMagic]

It’s the return of stereotypes.

[@jbl8829]

Silly child. All feelings and ignorance.

[@waheex]

such an upper-class movement

[@mrnice7570]

Thin end of the accept the pedophiles wedge

[@bbbb98765]

Trans people have a huge voice. When they disrupt a perfectly civil discussion that they disagree with, then that is just counterproductive for them. They are pretending that there aren't any problems or inconsistencies with their approach to activism. Make your case, don't try to shut down the opposition

[@staceya5149]

If they genuinely believed that their arguments were correct, persuasive, and logically consistent, they wouldn't have to continually shut down debates. They only silence their critics because they know they can't win the argument.

[@jonlee2217]

These "activists" only believe in free speech if you're saying something they agree with.

[@jabbadabbajew6035]

They use the power of mardy.

[@daniaratiba6443]

yes, there was an abundance of opportunity for riz to speak, counter with her own research and statistics, i just don't understand and my conclusion was, 'do you not want to sway opinion or is it that you can't do so?'

[@sandrajohn9837]

​@@jabbadabbajew6035 what's that? Asking for a friend 😁

[@deanemery67]

Riz doesn’t want the attention? What a hoot!

[@mrnice7570]

NPD at the very least

[@Bernaren60]

She performed a kiss in king charles bed in Windsor. She is regularly touting antimonarchist views on gbnews. She is a just stop oil protestor. But basically she is shy lad and avoids public attention.

[@triciat2855]

Riz states she "hates attention" after gluing her hand to the floor during Dr. Stock's talk. Really? The attempt to shut down conversations reveals not only a desperate clutch for attention, but a perspective that is smells like totalitarianism. Stock and other women (Terfs in this little cretin's words) can't say things like "women are human adult humans" because it might "harm" someone's feelings. Absurd!

[@owensclock]

The person being interviewed is entitled to express her opinions Just as Dr. Stock is. But there are a lot of linguistic manipulations and gymnastics going on here. She is attempting to weaponize words to her advantage for maximum emotional effect. . She says Dr. Stock's views on gender are "really dangerous"..While others would contend they(Dr. Stock's views) are merely pointing out the truth, In the end Dr. Stock didn't talk about gender at all.

[@mrnice7570]

"Riz" is an extremely dangerous extremist

[@nakedenby]

Kathleen Stock's views are already well known and well documented. 40 years ago many people claimed to be 'merely pointing out the truth' when they objected to homosexuality.

[@mrnice7570]

@@nakedenby they are well known and one hundred percent correct, trans people were doing just fine until the activists got involved and demanded that men can be woman and Vive versa which we all know is ridiculous

[@ApacheMagic]

@@nakedenby in her own book. You should read it. What you are calling her views and documentation are ehst other people are saying about her views, not her actual views.

[@nakedenby]

@@ApacheMagic She's made her views abundantly clear thank you.

[@ReenieG1UK]

Does she really know what is going on in schools at the moment? I think not. Currently it is heterosexual children that are being bullied by teachers and children who think it is cool to be part of the alphabet cult.

[@thewerewolfofnorway437]

Too true mate, and if our kids join this dangerous cult in my country, teachers are told to hide it from us parents, and if we complain, this cult can take our kids from us, and they're doing it. 🇦🇺

[@xitlallicommentstoday2169]

Feeling unsafe is not a justification for controlling other people's speech and actions. If someone talking about how your demands affect other people threatens your sense of safety, it is time for you to do some serious reflection. Don't ask other people to sacrifice their rights, needs and understanding of reality so that you can feel safe.

[@XRP747E]

Let us reflect upon Matthew Shepard.

[@nakedenby]

It isn't 'feeling' unsafe. They ARE unsafe. The only demands trans people make is to be treated equitably. No one, just no one, is 'sacrificing their rights' or 'needs'. The 'reality' that objectors understand, directly conflicts with established global medical and scientific consensus.

[@xitlallicommentstoday2169]

@@nakedenby I see. You are going to bring out all of the talking points. No, they are not just demanding (that's quite a choice of word you used right there) to be treated equitably. Unless what you mean is that they want is special treatment in which their rights supersede others. The global and medical consensus is slowly changing so you won't be able to use that argument forever. I will concede that some are sometimes unsafe. However, that was obviously not the case when Kathleen Stock was giving her speech. If anything, it was the other way around.

[@nakedenby]

@@xitlallicommentstoday2169 Not my choice of word - I replied to another poster. So exactly what rights are they 'demanding' that somehow 'supercede' equal rights? The global medical consensus isn't even remotely reversing. No idea where you could have got that bizarre impression.

[@charliepee4358]

​@@nakedenbyYou're wrong about everything. I'm not saying that trans women aren't somewhat unsafe. Bigoted people exist and people who stand out are more likely to be targeted. But Kathleen Stock is not making them more unsafe. What would that even mean? Can you give me an actual example? Also what do they mean when they're saying she's trying to "erase" trans women? I would call that grand hyperbole if it wasn't completely nonsensical.

[@mandead]

How do we make sure women are safe from TRAs?

[@Old_Scot]

They don't care, so they don't bother.

[@mrnice7570]

By keeping them out of woman's toilets , sports, prisons and hospitals to begin with

[@johnstevens6865]

Free speech being cast as "violence" or incitement is a false narrative meant to influence nervous politicians to violate their oath to uphold the God given rights they are bound to protect.

[@patrickmcnamara2755]

Yes it's an old trick. Pretend words are violence. Make your opponent be quiet!

[@XRP747E]

God-given rights is an oxymoron.

[@jonlee2217]

@@XRP747E Thats a good point. No rights are "god-given", they weren't given at all. The rights we enjoy today were fought for and won by the people as we wrested power from the monarchy and the aristocracy over a period of hundreds of years. We struggled and died so we could enjoy free speech today but now "activists" want to take that away from us simply because we don't agree with them and their rose-tinted view of society.

[@jedjones9047]

There will be a backlash against these men in dresses trying to gain access to girl only spaces' children need to be protected people have had enough it needs to stop.

[@KH-aug]

For an Oxford matriculant she seems quite a bad student; she seems to have done no homework whatsoever.

[@andrewmallen7842]

i want nuanced speech..but not nuanced speech that i disagree with.. i don't like harassment unless i'm doing it.. i can't explain what stock has said that is dangerous but it is...stock left with a series of bodyguards but i am under threat..

[@helendancelot]

How are trans people prevented from housing?

[@skinnymoonbob]

Idiocy. LGB without TQwhatever!

[@John-tl6vp]

Like most kids, she's in a whilwind of drives and impulses that she doesn't have introspective access to yet. There's no point asking her why she does the things she does, she doesnt know.

[@ivancho5854]

And when will they grow up, if ever?

[@John-tl6vp]

​​​@@ivancho5854 (I know that's a rhetorical point but..) If they stay in academia they are less likely to grow up and will probably infect more and more young ppl with this nonsense. That's how we've ended up with this stuff going as far as it has. It feels like the ship is turning at the moment though, which is nice.

[@jonlee2217]

@@John-tl6vp Academia is not the problem, learning is never a bad thing. Some people simply choose to learn the wrong lessons.

[@John-tl6vp]

@@jonlee2217 Jonathan Hiedt has a good book that outlines the different directions academic institutions have gone in. Many of the fields in academia now are not primarily interested in making sense of our world. Much of modern academia is the problem.

[@John-tl6vp]

@@jonlee2217 you can't say that learning is never a bad thing and then say that some people are choosing to learn the wrong things. It's a contradiction

[@ronh3935]

what an absolutely unreal conversation .... did she actually listen at all to what prof Stock has said?

[@jovialnobody]

They're not programmed to listen. They march like brainwashed zombies and shout meaningless slogans like ones, too. None of the people there even read Kathleen's book.

[@jean-paul7251]

Of course she didn't, why would she....it wouldn't fit her agenda protesting

[@normietwiceremoved]

They never ever do.

[@mrnice7570]

No too busy pretending trans people are being murdered, which they aren't. Three woman per day however are ....

[@ApacheMagic]

No. That’s the problem. They want to stop the possibility of anyone hearing her because the truth hurts their feelings.

[@beviwevi]

Ruiz wouldn’t know a feminist if one fell on her

[@scotthughes7440]

They should have put a cardboard barrier around her and left her glued to the floor. Literally for any protestor who does something like this.

[@jean-paul7251]

She should be thrown into prison

[@jonlee2217]

I remember a story about some "activists" who glued themselves to the floor of a car showroom. At the end of the workday the staff turned off the lights, locked up and left them there, glued to the floor.

[@thewerewolfofnorway437]

@@jonlee2217 that was BMW in Germany I reckon, love it!

[@user-nz8zb2tz3u]

Why is this person being interviewed, priviliged, arrogant, and unwilling or unable to think in a consistent and logical way. Katheen Stock does not threaten trans people, she merely points out that we need free speech and debate without the threats, and cancellation by this silly little girl and her minions. This girl is loving every bit of attention and encourages the chaos so that she gets the attention she so clearly needs. Get on with your studies please and let the adults debate. Free speech is our right and its time to stop the trans groupies getting those that really are dealing with their own identity, so upset. The groupies have their own agenda, this girl does, she's a professional activist using her influence on weak, confused people...shame on you.

[@TheAsianRepublican]

Let the lunatics speak, they reveal their extremism to more people

[@Arateenteras]

You are certainly not Kathleen Stock Nor anyone that can debate with others or listen to others with tolerance, wether you disagree or not. it’s always positive to give an interview as the one here. What on earth do you mean by “let the adults debate?..”! What’s an adult? Someone that by a miracle of age have gained wisdom”? Like yourself?… I might not agree with this young person. But no need to silence her .Much on the contrary. The problem is when something becomes dogmatic or needs to keep different views out of the dialogue or is in need of solemnity , like your point. ..To “leave the debate to adults..” 😅 This is one of the most impotent comments as line of thought I’ve heard for a long time . This , together with the use of diminishing adjectives.With those you are not emphasising anything simply insulting in quite a prepotent manner. Just puts forward a total lack of discourse. We have all been young and some rebellious at a point of our life. In spite of that , when we look back , we did extreme things and probably many of our points lacked in experience and maybe as we grew older we become more aware and tolerant of the world around us. But in the same manner , some people have given the most brilliant thoughts in their youth. A part of that disconformity is what has kept us in a creative though and inquisitive in an older age. It’s wonderful to hear young people !

[@marieparker3822]

Kathleen Stock talked about the importance of freedom of speech. The shouting, foamingly angry students at Oxford University made it clear that they do not want freedom of speech for other people. I find this impossible to understand.

[@sandrajohn9837]

Or for themselves it seems. Generally they don't speak, not to the point anyway. They just shout obscenities, chant slogans or walk away (😂 whilst chanting, 'walk away, walk away'). .

[@mariasinfiltros1478]

' I hate attention' yeah right

[@lukecaldwell7721]

I would love to see a law passed that means you can just turn all the lights off and vacate the building. Just leave them there to stick around.

[@janklaassen6404]

Should be legal already. You're not responsible for self harm in your building. I suppose you could have them arrested for trespassing.

[@kh2716]

And the irony is, this is what privilege looks like. Brought up rich, entry to the ‘best’ universities and the victim Culture is that strong in this generation they are able to feel oppressed. We are seeing the end of universities as we knew them….

[@matt76716]

Yes, absolutely. If this is the intellectual elite, we are in desperate trouble. She is so lightweight in her thinking, not an ounce of self-awareness or self-criticism. "I hate attention " 😒

[@Music_Lover26]

Too much inbreeding among the upper classes produces this result./s

[@mvubu6823]

I did hear her speech. It was well considered and totally rational. She hasn't t threatened anyone, with violence, EVER. The only violence i have seen has always come from the trans activists. The most dangerous thing in all of this is the silencing of people you dont agree with. The other obvious thing is that there are a group of Trans people who are narcissistic attention seakers who love nothing more than the attention this public victimhood gives them.

[@geoffhoward2171]

Anyone who chooses to glue their hands or any other part of their body to anything,should be allowed to stay there as long as they desire and in no way whatsoever should public services get involved in releasing them and no one should be allowed to help then in any way, they have chosen to take this action thenselves and should be prepared to accept the results.

[@lydgate6268]

Anyone who threatens or uses slurs against Riz and her allies is utterly reprehensible, but anyone who has followed this topic on the internet can see a much greater number of radical trans activists harassing women and gender critical people with violent threats. It is also risible that the calm, nuanced arguments of Kathleen Stock are responsible for violence.

[@fionam.1784]

Riz is an example of an extreme attention hungry spoilt brat. Can’t stand her boring rhetoric.

[@helendancelot]

Don't believe you..more likely false flag

[@Tropper73]

@@helendancelot You're right

[@jonlee2217]

​@@helendancelot You should have a cup of tea and calm down. All that anger will only give you stomach ulcers.

[@ApacheMagic]

@@triciat2855 look up ‘risible’. It means laughable. You have the wrong end of the stick

[@peterteagleteagle9958]

It's frightening to think some of these people, might be one day running the country,

[@random6809]

Attitudes soon change when they have a job, mortgage and kids.

[@sandrajohn9837]

Run the country?😱 Couldn't run a bath!

[@hawsrulebegin7768]

They just don’t get it. Their attitudes to anyone not agreeing with them is wrong. They’ve done nothing to help themselves by shutting down any discussion they disagree with. It’s as though they’ve just got addicted to the attention and forgotten the initial message.

[@casscamden740]

well i think its more the case that they dont want it discussed because really they know full well that its child abuse

[@evanfirebrand]

Riz is behaving like a spoiled child born with excessive privilege.

[@mariasinfiltros1478]

so happy to be gen X, this person has no real problems and a huge savior complex, like all SJWs

[@Stafford674]

What stands out is the quality of the interviewer. She asks the questions we all would like to ask, in a non-confrontational way allowing the interviewee to explain her views. It shows the trans-activist position is based upon factual propositions that are unsupported by evidence. I have yet to encounter 'hate' being directed in public at trans people. I haven't seen report of it. Schools rush to support trans kids. Riz Posnett's argument for suppressing free speech is not made out, and it is clearly not made out. Congratulations to the interviewer. And to Riz Posnett. You are a pleasant young person who wants to make the world a better place; find a way to do it that respects other people.

[@snappingbear]

Gluing yourself to the floor to disrupt the speech of others isn't respectful in any way.

[@thewerewolfofnorway437]

Sorry mate, I misread your comment.

[@TrackerNeil]

I imagine that Kathleen Stock gets death threats after Posnett speaks, but that doesn't make those threats Posnett's fault. Similarly, people who respond to Stock's words with death threats are themselves responsible for those threats, and not Stock. Posnett also dodged the suicide question. Posnett provided not an answer but a talking point, and that's a typical activist trick.

[@samsonlovesyou]

Correct answer: "I have borderline personality disorder with narcissistic traits and I have invested much of my social capital in this issue, which has successfully bought me some popularity amongst my mentally damaged peers".

[@suzannewood8962]

It's wonderful giving these people air time. They show their own craziness and it takes no effort from anyone else. This is what Free Speech is all about. Let people trip themselves up.

[@sheilamacdougal4874]

The term "dogwhistle" has become a devious way of associating an ideological opponent with hate, violence, threats, or extremism, when they actually espouse no such things. Since the student can't cite a single actual encouragement to violence in anything Kathleen Stock says, resorting to the analogy of a dogwhistle serves well: maybe ordinary humans can't hear it, but the fierce hounds out there can. It's in code, dogspeak if you will, so never mind that I can't provide any evidence of her hate and threats in plain English.

[@sheilamacdougal4874]

@David Heron Yes, they just have to hear the whistle and they immediately start frothing and growling.

[@realolivertwisted]

I just find it funny that they’re the only ones who can hear/recognize the whistle.

[@sheilamacdougal4874]

@@realolivertwisted It's really just regular old strawmanning, but then using the dogwhistle claim in an attempt to conceal the strawmanning.

[@natasha-em1qo]

Terf is a slur

[@LL-wc4wn]

If you want to protect the most vunerable... What about the sick and disabled? They literally are the weakest members of society

[@troitskaya]

I don’t understand how glueing your hands to the floor improves the debate, it shuts it down

[@cheesecakechamp7800]

Born brown, I'd like to be recognised as white.

[@maumau3870]

you will be TRANSWHITE then - LOL

[@lukeskypestalker2622]

You’re in

[@fionam.1784]

Born white in the middle of Africa I’d like to be recognised as an African.

[@lauracooskey9481]

How did she get unglued? (I mean literally; obviously, she's been mentally unglued for a while.) I mean, wouldn't it have been fitting to just let her stay there? She couldn't have gotten in any trouble, confined like that... the guards could go home that night. She did it to herself-- it's kind of a metaphor for the entire trans experience-- she was no more "born trans" than born with her hand glued to the floor.

[@brianrichards3119]

I've worked with and got on marvellously well with a transexual. There was certainly no "hate" and I was happy to go along with her name change, pronoun change, appearance change. But had I been put on the spot I would logically, scientifically, biologically have to say that when all said and done, this was a man living as a woman. Which is okay until it infringes other people's rights, dignity and freedoms. The mantra "If you disagree with me, that means you must hate me" is totally unfair and inaccurate. The mental health industry has in some ways fuelled the falsehood that feelings trump reality. Our feelings matter, but they are still just feelings. When they clash with reality, reality wins. If a bloke wants to change his appearance and look like how society perceives a woman might look, change from Pete to Janet, thats fine. I will defend their right to do that all day long. But don't force others to accept and buy into the fallacy that a man can actually BECOME a woman. It ain't true and no amount of emotion or internal conflict will make it so.

[@billymorrison23]

delusional

[@megazw7740]

Totally agree with you. Well said.

[@hourbee5535]

I’m a pineapple

[@memofromessex]

I'm an attack helicopter and I am the most vulnerable in society

[@undertheriverstone]

I'm chinese, born white 🎉 Next year I'm thinking of switching to black. I identify as transracial 😍 😍 💅🏿

[@Tropper73]

I'm a toddler... let me have a tantrum!!!

[@mickyday2008]

Also, it’s not illegal to hate someone/ something or to offend people.

[@BiggusDiggusable]

Mmm. Not so sure. You can if you keep it to yourself but hate speech is definitely illegal in the UK.

[@chadimirputin2282]

It is now. 😂 Britain truly has turned into an authoritarian nanny state.

[@davidnorman7715]

Should of glued your mouth.

[@daveabrahams-edley6799]

Have

[@ElegantPaws01]

Mental health issues.

[@MeditationMoments]

Many words, no meaning …

[@themoose70]

Rizz is lying- Planned Parenthood will distribute puberty blockers & hormones with 1 visit-- no waiting.

[@andyallan2909]

Their attitude is we are right, we're entitled to have our way, and to **** with what the rest of society want! We're right! Why do the authorities go out of their way to mollycoddle these anti-democratic lawbreakers? If they want to glue themselves to the floor, metal railings, the middle of a motorway etc., why don't they just leave them to it/leave them stuck there?

[@nakedenby]

No, their attitude isn't that they are right. Their attitude is they are reporting the facts as concluded by overwhelming medical and scientific consensus. That does however happen to make them right, and affords them the same entitlements as everyone else.

[@VioletWaves44]

Because it's part of the plan the controllers have. At a very surface level it's divide and conquer. Deeper down it's confuse and disorientate the masses, usher in totalitarian rule while these people have been manipulated to believe it's what they want. And maybe some of them are too far gone, they don't even realise they're fighting for their own enslavement.

[@ApacheMagic]

@@nakedenby that consensus does not exist.

[@nakedenby]

@@ApacheMagic You're being deliberately ignorant. Goodbye.

[@suckieduckie]

@@nakedenby If you honestly believe there is something like a scientific consencus regarding transgenderism then you havn't read enough studies.

[@paulwalker797]

While supporting fully the right of Trans people to live lives free from harrassment and prejudice I find it bizarre that we are listening to a what is essentially a teenage level 'its not fair' argument from the activist here. Posnett talks about how 'we' talk about and talk to trans people...who is this 'we'....everyone? right wing or religious bigots? people trying to understand and have empathy?

[@exiled2home]

Her smiles and politeness were given away by the casual use of the term ‘TERF’ that just slipped out about 2/3rds in.

[@troygoggans5495]

Why give this person a stage to voice her sick attitude to the rest of the world. Shame, Shame. You cannot lump these ridiculous people with other people.

[@JoeyXSmith]

9:18 That's not true! My sister in law got testosterone shots within 2 years of coming out as a transman. She is now detransitioned, but her voice is completely changed. They rush these thing through the system. Just because people are scared of being accused of being transphobic.

[@colinireson9339]

Most of these minority group types seem to think that the whole World revolves around them. Personally, I could not care less what they get up to. I'm just tired of hearing them whine on about how unfair everything is. Yes, love, the World is unfair for most people, trans or not.

[@horseluv7315]

"There are two sexes, zero genders and infinite personalities." - Billboard Chris

[@M00nGlitz]

Talking about biological sex is a "dog whistle?"

[@helendancelot]

Is harassment on line ..stating ones different opinion?

[@petergurney4714]

Her views feel dangerous to you Rose because they threaten your delusory world. At some point, hopefully you'll grow through this relatively painlessly, and be able to shake it off as a learning experience, and with minimum embarrassment....

[@blotski]

I have two questions. Do we accept that trans women are not biologically the same as biological females? I am afraid this is not a matter of opinion, it is science. So the answer is yes. The second question is do you believe that those differences have any relevance in particular for woman who are biologically female? Now this is more a question of belief, conviction, philosophy etc and as such is a topic to be debated and people should be able to do so freely and to hold their own opinions. The attitude of the radical trans ideologists like this person is that this second point is not up for debate and we are not allowed to hold our own opinions whilst their own conclusions are stridently promoted as scientific fact. They are not. I'm gradually beginning to think of people like Riz as trans fascists.

[@ApacheMagic]

They literally believe that the first point is t true though. They conflate gender and sex. That’s why saying ‘women don’t have penises’ is considered transphobic. I would say it’s crass and blunt, but it’s not untrue or bigoted.

[@liabell2175]

pretty much every gender critical woman I've heard/read is FOR creating a world in which trans-identified people can live without discrimination or violence! They simply do not agree that this has to come at the cost of females losing hard won and much needed spaces and opportunities - the disadvantage and disproportionate violence against women has not ended at all; we also want a world in which we can live without discrimination and violence! - or at the cost of abandoning evidence based discussion and free speech. That the trans lobbyists equate caring for girls/womens' interests with transphobia is simply absurd. It looks to me like they just desperately need an enemy to crusade against; a villain, so they can be "the good".

[@realolivertwisted]

Hear, hear! *WOMEN’S RIGHTS ARE NOT A HATE CRIME!!*

[@Horizon344]

leave her there for 24 hours, she won't do it again.

[@random6809]

If kids are given a safe space and support, why would they need to transition at all until deemed to be mature enough to make that life-changing decision? Surely that's the answer isn't it? Support them until they are 16/18 or whatever and then allow them to make that informed decision.

[@sgt7]

"Trans rights" is a contested term. Many people disagree that trans people have the right to dictate how others use pronouns etc. So they, like me, would not see her as standing up for trans rights because, wel, they simply don't have the right to force others to validate their delusions.

[@janedeacondeacon9832]

WHY NOT LEAVE THEM GLUED SO THAT THEY SIT IN THIER OWN EXCREMENT?

[@Pinhoser]

I'm so empathetic, I'm so articulate, I'm so intelligent and understanding, I'm so sanctimonious, I NEED attention to showcase my sanctimony. She should have been 'left' stuck to the floor and ignored!!

[@KJ-js7pi]

She makes a lot of logical fallacies and contradictions. I hope she is not studying a humanities degree. If so, Christ, how far has Oxford fallen.

[@RenegadeContext]

My word does she know some big words, she must really know what she's talking about. Protecting those vulnerable kids from predators trying to stop them destroying their bodies, keeping those vulnerable trans woman safe from those awful biological women who are sooooo much stronger

[@helendancelot]

Can this young woman please do some real research

[@Jenny-nz8fb]

Unfortunately not, all that private education but no critical thinking skills.

[@martiforse4764]

“Famous Canadian transphobe” Make me laugh!

[@judithmorganjudyteen]

Decent compassionate man more like. Chris is never cruel to anybody, will listen to their argument if they have one. unfortunately they usually swear at him or physically attack him.

[@martiforse4764]

@@judithmorganjudyteen I think she was talking about Dr Peterson.

[@lilygarden89]

​@martiforse4764 no, she was talking about billboard Chris

[@elliec4154]

They disrupt debate they can't win with words.

[@Open6music]

7:31 She said a child is rationally incapable of committing suicide. So, then are they rationally capable of choosing to change genders?

[@Guide504]

How to get the vast majority to focus on 0.01% of the population while ALL THE VERY IMPORTANT STUFF GETS TAKEN FROM US!

[@swooningtree]

I feel like this answer is "because I'm actually a very privileged young woman with more class guilt than I know what to do with and desperately crave attention and a sense of purpose" but I doubt she'll say it

[@tj2705]

I think it’s very interesting that the very first line of defense is “trans people k*ll themselves”… that is true, yes, but it should not keep us from discussing topics that we disagree on. For instance, white men k*ll themselves more than any other group and it doesn’t stop anyone from voicing their distain… we are not even speaking from a place of distain, just a desire for fairness in womens sports and privacy.

[@Hani_Santa]

Exactly, it's a cheap shot in trying to frame Kathleen Stock. Yet she said nothing negative about trans people in general and is really specific. I am a leftist, but this kind of tactics and rethorica is a perfect example of left wing extremism.

[@Old_Scot]

That is their only line. It's supposed to silence the rest of us. It's the claim that is made every time on of these TRAs speak, and it has no basis in reality.

[@susanperks3819]

They should have left her glued to the floor and gone home

[@M15Guys]

Nauseating ridiculous little student who isn't getting enough attention. I trust she is comfortable with the erosion of women and sexual orientation if she truly is passionate about protecting vulnerable people in society .....

[@mayipleaseask1183]

“WHY I Glued My Hands To The Floor” Because I’m angry that Kathleen Stock got to Speak 🗣 the TRUTH about the TransCult I’m part of and I had a hissy fit SO DESPICABLE‼️ 👩🏻‍💻