Why I Hate The Festool ETS 125

[@JGV_IX]

Fellow hobbyist here… I ended up paying more for my range of “pre-Festool” sanders than the Festool one. If I’d know how crap the other brands were and how nice the Festool is - I’d have just bought it from the start. Same with some of the other tools - had several routers break and also ruin projects before getting a Festool router and instantly knew the hype was real for a reason. For me the first Festool purchase was the TS55 tracksaw - the gateway drug into the Festool obsession - hands down the best buy ever and I would recommend it 10/10 for anyone wanting to sample the brand. Thanks for the review!

[@Smithb83]

So true! Buy cheap buy twice

[@nwbuilds]

Great perspective. I personally think that it just depends on where you're at in the process. When I started woodworking, money was a limiting factor. Now that time is more of a limiting factor, I'm upgrading my tools for efficiency and enjoyment. But then there's other people who would rather just use planes! You bet! Thanks for watching!

[@joelbosco3144]

Mine was the TS60. Changed my opinion on buying tools.

[@Caffeine.And.Carvings]

If you want another machine that's orgasmic to use: the mafell p1cc jigsaw (cable version). It's build like a tank. An already used Version just kept going in our shop with abuse from countless apprentices, and still cuts as accurate as a track saw, even 40mm solid beech, 90-45° cuts perfectly. I use it maybe 20 times a year at home, but it just makes me happy each time

[@foxwoodworking8759]

I hated sanding before I got my ETS125. My first Festool was the DF500 soon followed by the ETS125. It's a sweet sander. Now I also have Rotex 150 and Rotex 90. Next ETS EC150/3.

[@LYTOMIZE_Woodshop]

Yep... I have to come to terms with these facts too and get one some time this year. Thanks for reinforcing it!!!

[@nwbuilds]

It's not my favorite realization, but better than drugs I suppose hahaha

[@ronh9384]

I don’t know why everyone hates sanding. I have always enjoyed it. Even hand sanding didn’t bother me back before I had a ROS or 1/4 sheet sander. I guess there must be something wrong with me.

[@kenanklovitch8117]

Does the ETSC125 hook up to a vacuum as an option to the bag? Thanks very much for your video.

[@nwbuilds]

Yes! All festool tools are compatible with their line of dust extractors (shop vacs), and you can get adapters to fit other hoses. Thanks for watching!

[@BigDawgCustom]

Good video, enjoyed the humor . Thanks.

[@nwbuilds]

Thank you, DWD! I'll try to include it in videos moving forward with that feedback

[@pattiobrien5408]

Question, are you still using this one or have you upgraded?

[@NanetteMassey]

Thanks for this video. I was on the fence about spending the money, but you are right, you get what you pay for. I got a WORX for my hobby sanding and burned it out, then a rebuilt Bosch; it died 3 minutes after using. I have lost more time doing research and waiting to get money back. I am going with the Festool. I will keep you posted as I may just be a serial sander killer.

[@nwbuilds]

Hahaha I'll keep a look out in the news for the serial sander killer. I'm still a big fan of this sander, although, I may consider upgrading to a 6" at some point.

[@nominalvelocity]

Protip re: making cleaning house fun: this can also be solved with a power tool. Beg borow or steal a Stihl BR-800 backpack blower. If it gets blown away, you probably didn't need to have it in the first place. A hundred thousand landscape professionals cannot be wrong!

[@512bb]

Oh man, you really had me going with your clickbait my friend. It's a real puzzler how people cheap out on the things that really make a difference but have no problem on dropping 5 bucks plus on a cup of coffee every morning. Great video, use that beauty in good health!

[@nwbuilds]

Hahaha hopefully it didn't make you upset! Unfortunately, a hint of click baitiness seems to be the only way to make it in this game. I definitely agree. Price is always a factor, but some things just make sense.

[@512bb]

@@nwbuilds Not upset at all & it worked, you have to do what you have to do.

[@WoodworkingYouTubers]

Thanks for the video. Making sanding fun? hmmm....some things are not meant to be fun. added to our January playlist,

[@nwbuilds]

Thanks for watching! Sounds crazy right???

[@deandunn206]

205USD hahaha! This thing is 440USD in the UK now. Unfortunately I really needed it for a large refurb job. Lets hope it was worth the money. Big advantage is I already have a Festool dust extractor.

[@toolchuck]

I remember my first Festool, it was a Domino DF-500. Let's me see now, how far back that was, oh yes, it was about $20k ago! 🤦‍♂ It's a freaking drug. But I love It! All the Best, Chuck

[@jsarratt1]

😂

[@ukaszbudzynski9113]

Hilarious :D

[@FryChicken]

Holy moly

[@toolchuck]

@@FryChicken Well, we at least know who get what in a divorce. 🤣

[@pathelwig7057]

What dust collection are you using with the ETS 125?

[@nwbuilds]

Honestly, nothing right now. A festool dust collector is on my list, but the mft table took priority. I do run a wen air filter whenever I'm sanding, and between it and the dust bag on the sander, I find no layer of dust that settles.

[@Tunfy]

i like the systainer that much that now i use milwaukee packout , dude you must buy a rotex 150 , that is for real fast jobs

[@nwbuilds]

A of 1400, domino, and rotex are all on my list!

[@ILruffian]

It's like flying first class. Once you start doing it, fuck if I'm walking through it and going to the back of the plane.

[@gandjboyd7872]

My 1st festool was there PRO 5 LTD at promotion price of $99(it seemed it took 6 month to receive it)

[@nwbuilds]

And how do you like it now?

[@gandjboyd7872]

@@nwbuilds the only thing I didn't like about it, is it didn't come with a dust collector bag but Rockler dust right hose kit works.

[@AJBuiltThis]

Out of curiosity did you consider the Rotex? I really like this video for the rationale that you explain - it is very valuable to those who are looking to step up their tools.

[@nwbuilds]

I did. It was a budget issue, but I think I'll get the rotex in the future. From my understanding, there's a place for both.

[@ErtsenPlayGames]

@@nwbuilds u get something like rotex from bosch and people say its better

[@nwbuilds]

@@ErtsenPlayGames I've heard that opinion too. I don't have my own opinion on one vs the other yet, but I'm sure I'll do more research when the time comes.

[@ILruffian]

I have all 3. ETS 125 is the place to start. Rotex is a different animal. Will really hog material off like a belt sander, but is a heavy, two-handed tool. Bosch knock-off is good. I bought it when we were sanding the exterior of my house and needed to keep two going at once. But it's not the ROTEX.

[@FryChicken]

This is so fucking spot on goddammit

[@ProxyFinal]

i can't help but say that there aren't many good sanders out there that are budget friendly. Those that fall under that category are only good for rough work or demo/removal type of job, then you finish off with a high end sander.

[@ErtsenPlayGames]

Check Bosch GEX 18V the best cordless orbital sander on the market right now for 125mm discs then there is Mirka (better than festool) but if u rly want to see a difference u should use 3M Xtract sandpaper .... festool sandpaper in comparsion to 3M Xtract is like the cheapest sandpaper u can buy (literally ...tested myself and i use hundreds of discs) vs premium one it is crazy fast and make your job way easier in the same time it last 5x longer , is 3x faster nad cost almost 50% less (if u add to it that it last at least 3x longer thats mean its at least 5x cheaper than any other sandpaper) but dont use it on corners at the begining when u learn how to use it because it can get damaged easier than average sandpaper (because its mesch not 100% ) 3M Xtract is based on 3M Cubitron II , u can get it in 100% filled version (not mesch like Xtract) 3M Cubitron II 775L that last longer but isnt as good as Xtract (still avesome) but dont get easly damaged on corners if u press to hard

[@nwbuilds]

Thanks for all the advice, sebastian! Do you have a link for the sandpaper you're talking about? I've been thinking about upgrading my sand paper

[@ErtsenPlayGames]

@@nwbuilds i get it from local shops etc U should find it almost everywhere now in wodworking shops or good painting shops Just look for 3M XTRACT Or 3M Cubitron II There is also a test of it there :

[@ErtsenPlayGames]

@@nwbuilds There is a test of sandpapers First one is cubitron Xtract Second is cubitron 775L (thats why there is 2 times cubitron) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIundIV8np2Xgbs

[@toolchuck]

Sebastian, we all have our preferences and opinions and I'm sure the Bosch is a nice sander. Which Mirka sander would you compare to the Festool ETS 125, as Mirka has no 2mm or 2.5mm orbit 5"/125mm electric sander? A fairer comparison would be a Festool ETS EC 150/5mm to a Mirka Deros 650 CV/5mm. The Deros 650 CV can change between a 125mm and a 150mm pad but Festool doesn't offer the ETS EC 125 in a 5mm orbit. I have the Festool sanders and the Mirka, they are both great sanders that anyone would do well to have and use. Any difference between the two is negatable and is really a matter of personal preference. And as far as sandpaper goes, knock yourself out on that one, but might I suggest trying a better-quality sander, any of the afore-mentioned Festool or Mirka sanders will sand appreciably better than the Bosch. I have owned several Bosch tools over the years, (going back to the 70's) and they were outstanding. But my more recent purchases (JS470EB-jig saw, GCM12SD-miter saw) have shown a severe decline in quality. Both were either returned or sold and then replaced with Festool equivalents, and not by choice, but out of necessity. Bosch isn't the top tier company they once were, incredibly sad. All the Best, Chuck

[@toolchuck]

I have looked into the 3M Xtract and you are on to something. 👍 I have ordered some 150mm/6", I like Mirka Abranet, but it really looks like the Xtract is so much better. Thank you for info and All the Best, Chuck.

[@darrenalmeida1382]

I knew that was the reason you hate Festool. These tools work so well for the seasoned professional and the person just getting started in woodwork. Yes Festool is "expensive" but you get what you pay for. I do suggest picking up the basic Festool tools from the start - as in sanders, tracksaw, router.

[@GeometryBuild]

Yeah… I didn’t like getting their track saw. But it is what it is.

[@martincarlberg9671]

If you think you just going to buy ONE ”expensive” tool from Festool…🙈😁😁😁 Just love it, pricey yes, quality, effect and the garanty make it worth it. Big smile on your lips allways.😊

[@nwbuilds]

Hahaha I've already since gotten an mft. Sander, domino, and dust extractor coming eventually.

[@martincarlberg9671]

@@nwbuilds I dont have the mental illness yet to look my self in the mirror after buying a domino to my hobby, but shit had happend before..🙈 But if I was a pro., Festool all the way.😂

[@Bob.Silverstein]

Now it's $250 :/

[@hannanesterowich7176]

Nice vest.

[@toolchuck]

Please stay on topic, kids are watching! 🤦‍♂

[@brentlazzarino7171]

Hilarious 😂

[@nwbuilds]

Glad you liked it, Brent! Thanks for watching!

[@JeffRL1956]

$349 in Canada and that's not all due to the exchange rate.