Why I Hate the New Fallkniven

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@Rooster-fo7lg 7 ай бұрын

Logically a convex edge would be way more supported than a v grind due to the ogive shape in my mind. Maybe a video idea for you to explain how you derive that conclusion.

@gibrigg 7 ай бұрын

To be honest, falkniven Handle ergonomics are their weakness in my opinion-it’s just not comfortable for prolonged use. But, my falkniven S1 grind and blade geometry is exceptional. My S1 is a good at all around tasks such as feather-sticking, splitting, and game processing. The falkniven convex is very very good.

@IsitAKnife 7 ай бұрын

Ciao! I love your reviews, but I think you are wrong on the convex grind being weaker. It is exactly the opposite. Think about it, there is much more material behind the cutting part of the edge. So especially chipping is much less than with any other kind of grind. Cheers! And keep it going!

@AlaskanFrontier1 7 ай бұрын

I see what you mean

@PTSDexplosion 2 ай бұрын

idk about that, the apex itself does feel quite a bit thinner on convex grinds, though you could argue it flares out more quickly than on a v-edge. Explains why I get more "superficial" chipping and rolling with convex ground knives as opposed to deeper chipping.

@namelessone5200 7 ай бұрын

Would like to see more field using and testing and comparising these knives, not only desktop reviews

@AlaskanFrontier1 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation, I’m trying

@christopherdiggles6533 6 ай бұрын

Convex grind the most supported grind which is why katana blades and axes use them. I have a # of Falknivens. Staying on the VG10 subject and also including COS ( really pretty much a modified VG10 all considered ) my use experience relating to battening, shaving wood, building fire bow spindles, etc evidenced chipping in initial out-of- the- box phases, though after resharpening no longer an issue. This experience tends to jibe with other people’s reports in my readings. I have recently purchased an F1x elmax but have yet to really put through any major trauma. I can attest that my S1x ( cos6) survived a deserted island 8 day survival course as my primary tool with no chipping and high levels of use and impact

@vassili8577 2 ай бұрын

Would u say that s1x is equal as the a1x in therms of usés?

@christopherdiggles6533 Ай бұрын

Generally I find the S1x a good balance. The A1x I believe was designed for military use placing it in the true survival knife category at the cost of more general fine use. Probably great for combat but let’s be honest, even in the ground- based military how often does knife combat really happen? So what are we left with? Camp use, food prep, processing wood, prying, skinning… S1x does all that even food prep is possible. Its longer length greatly assists in wood processing especially batonning over the F1x, super strong for prying ( the X versions correcting the Survival Lily point breakage in the original). So what’s the advantage of A1x besides reach in combat? As Cedric pointed out not any greater chopping advantage not really long enough for that. And for battoning the length diff tends to be negligible; if a log gets that differentially large time for an ax. And the one they did make that is great as a chopper was the A2 which they :1 never made an “X” version of, 2 seem to have discarded for their super more expensive Bowie which looks almost exactly like Cold Steels Bowie. So yeah for a KNIFE the S1x a nice literal middle value. You could just skip over the A1x to the A2 or hell at that point keep your S1x and add machete, axe or other high carbon lower HRC tool strictly for chopping

@vassili8577 Ай бұрын

@@christopherdiggles6533 thanks you so much for your time ! Ill go for s1x then

@StevanOutdoor 7 ай бұрын

Convex make the strongest edge. You don't know what you're talking about. You say that Fallkniven didn't innovate but the first SRK has the exact same handle as the present ones and the Master Hunters. The differnce is that Fallkniven has their blades made in Japan and assemblied in Sweden and SRK's are totally made in China. Of ourse there's a price difference.

@az-chris1136 7 ай бұрын

I fully agree that convex edges offer the greatest support for the cutting edge and it is a far stronger grind than any other.

@brandensutton2324 7 ай бұрын

Blade HQ still has the SRKs listed as being made in Taiwan.

@charliemaddock3459 7 ай бұрын

fallkniven knows what they're doing..you buy fallkniven because they have a reputation of quality and its more than just a knife .. I had to have one (recent purchase) after waiting years ..so happy with it and I see what all the fuss is about ..beautiful convex, the lamination lines are perfect and really cool I have only ever seen it on my higonokami.... and the DC4 stone is amazing on all my knives, for quick touch up nothing beats it , great stone for teaching my son too

@StevanOutdoor 7 ай бұрын

@@charliemaddock3459 I agree. All models. and I have a few, are well thought out and well made. Even the sheaths and indeed the DC3 and 4 are great for toucing up your knife in the field.

@AlaskanFrontier1 7 ай бұрын

Oh stop your yappin, SRKs are not made in China

@Steelydan670 7 ай бұрын

Great video and perspectives. One thing to add for context is that the price difference between Fallkniven and the comps is that convex grind. It requires manual work by an artisan. Location is another factor, but production effort is the big difference. With that said, Hattori did it for the Trailmaster at a very modest price tag (comparably)

@justonlyme6121 7 ай бұрын

That just doesn’t suit most users, I got a kizlyar with a flat grind that looks like a clone of a falkkniven, for $35 posted, so can sharpen it myself in the field.

@AlaskanFrontier1 7 ай бұрын

This is a good point thank you

@Steelydan670 7 ай бұрын

@@justonlyme6121 convex is pretty easy to do in the field too unless you have severe chips or deformations. The convex grind/edge helps to avoid that in the first place though. You can touch up flat or convex with a ceramic rod, a leather strop with diamond compound, or a stone. The finish might need a little love when you get back but it’s not hard to maintain any type of edge in the field. Full sharpening is obviously best done at home, but that’s a rare need for the duration of most wilderness ventures. If you’re out for months, you’re going to want to bring some full sized stones and a strop.

@PTSDexplosion 2 ай бұрын

@@justonlyme6121 90% of the time a strop with a coarse compound on one side and fine on the other will work just fine and if you stay on top of it you'll basically never need to resharpen a convex, but if you had to rods are fine, hell even stones are fine as long as you do a rocking motion on both when sharpening; it's not rocket science and the performance advantage when slicing/doing feathersticks is vastly worth it over a v-edge imo.

@nightfevernight 3 ай бұрын

Try compare it with the Fallkniven A1 pro or X

@nicolaasvoois2311 7 күн бұрын

Well I am european and have knives of all kinds such as bark river which I love, but. Although falknivens have their cons. Sadly for bark river the fit and finish, convex and heat treatment of falkniven is better than bark river. I do agree on the NL series though. But they also use very good steels such as the improved vg 10 which is Cos. Watch videos of Dbk, they test those knives and show that the edge retention of cos is twice as good as vg 10, and very easy to sharpen and very stainless and very strong due to lamination. They also use 3g steel, elmax and cowry x

@michaelgrossmann8395 4 күн бұрын

I prefer a convex grind, but that's an option. My gripe about Fallkniven is their handles. They might be insulated and anti-slip etc, which is practical. But boy are they uncomfortable and they don't look good either (says me). The X-line knives are especially terrible: thin, hard scales, ugly, uncomfortable. They feel terrible in the hand. What I'm saying is, if Fallkniven could make knives (even a line) with "traditional" coke-bottled shaped micarta, G10 etc handles, I'd love them. Come to think of it, if they made a line with a Morakniv handle, I'd love it! Now there's a great plastic/rubber handle, if you have to have one. Compared to Fallkniven, Morakniv handles are positively luxurious.

@martinhafner2201 7 ай бұрын

I'm not fond of requiring good knife designs to have constant style changes. A good design should have only small incremental changes. Of course they shouldn't make the handles WORSE by hardening up the rubber compound. I'm talking about incremental improvements. My biggest concern is that they continue to use somewhat brittle alloys. VG-10 is their baseline, but it doesn't have a good track record for hard use knives. CPM 3V would be a better choice. Lamination doesn't stop the edge from chipping out. At their price range, something like 3V would be a reasonable modern baseline, or something similar that is mostly stainless like S35VN. I'm guessing that laminated 3V isn't a reasonable concept, and convexing an unlaminated 3V blade might wear their tools too fast, so perhaps some laminate compatible center alloy is hard to find or very expensive. Is there a good alloy for this purpose? The trick is to get an easy to machine cheek alloy that has a compatible heat treat to a more advanced center alloy, and without significant warping. That way you could press/weld the layers together, do the heat treat and then do the convex grind without destroying all your grinding tools/media. Tricky. Weld/Grind/HeatTreat/TouchUpGrind may not be an alternative if you would have to try to chill non-parallel stock with compressed cooling plates. Ouch. It's like their production model for an affordable and durable convex doesn't have a good path forward into powder alloys. I do think the convex grind is a major feature that keeps a large knife performing well in controlled wood carving. I think that performance issue is a big part of the customer base's mind set, so that shouldn't go anywhere. Any customer can microbevel the knife after they buy it, but it is a real pain to add a convex to any knife, let alone a precise, long convex. That's Fallkniven's special attribute. You don't want to lose your muchness. Their winter ready handles are a good thing for all northern customers. Their X suffixed models are a concession to the more southern U.S. or perhaps U.K. bushcrafters in that they go to slab scales with some exposed metal for better "full tang" rep while being less deep winter ready. The main models shouldn't give one inch on handle insulation or they will lose their customer base's core needs.

@2Snakes 7 ай бұрын

You should do a top 5 of your favorite knives. Also, talk about your preference for knife steels. I personally prefer stainless over carbon for my blades.

@AlaskanFrontier1 7 ай бұрын

Will do

@thermaltoyzngear3310 7 ай бұрын

What's your opinion on the Modern Bowie? I understand your point on their smaller blade lines, but the Modern Bowie in my opinion is still one of the best options around in that usable Bowie category. The Cold Steel Trailmaster San Mai was my top option in that Bowie category, but now that too is made in Taiwan (no longer made by Hattori in Seki, Japan) so it's off my list (they are of way lesser quality compared to the Japanese versions as I have found out myself.)

@jeh966 7 ай бұрын

Check out svörd von tempsky bowie

@thermaltoyzngear3310 7 ай бұрын

@@jeh966 seen it, not a fan of the design.

@AlaskanFrontier1 7 ай бұрын

I would rather have a Trailmaster to be honest. But the top guard is usually what kills my love for bowies

@PTSDexplosion 2 ай бұрын

The Modern Bowie is way overpriced imo. Would rather get a BRK bowie of the same size in A2 or a full tang knife in 3V in the same blade length; would still cost less and have overall much better materials. Got a Teddy 2 and it's been great, while for a more stainless option the Tope Recon has also yet to disappoint me.

@nicolaasvoois2311 7 күн бұрын

The cs trailmaster san mai is made in taiwan now indeed. Have it and the mb. The trailmaster cannot stand in the shade anymore of the mb. They used to have the same blade shape ( only the trailmaster in vg1 steel, not as good as cos) but the taiwan made trailmaster is lighter, narrower and has a flat grind with secondary convex edge. Totally different then the original. I was very disappointed when I bought it as it was displayed on the website with the old original photo but it was nowhere like it

@nicolaasvoois2311 3 ай бұрын

There is a SRK in cpm3v and in san mai vg10, both made in Taiwan. It has been made as well on Italy for a while in cpm3v but since last year not anymore. I have the one from Taiwan but great fit and finish. Also have several falknivens and love them all, great knives great quality. Don’t know if you are familiar with Trc knives from Lithuania but they use the best materials, Magnacut, Vanadis 4, Elmax, M390 to name a few and the fit and finish is unreal, the best I have ever seen.

@marcuspearson8320 7 ай бұрын

You know he's serious when pulls his sleeves up

@AlaskanFrontier1 7 ай бұрын

Very true

@charliemaddock3459 7 ай бұрын

Man it was a tough choice I was purchasing my very first FALLKNIVEN a week ago and I went with the A1 leather sheath .. I wanted the x but your not the first to complain about it and that thicker blade was a killer for me...hope they make it better in future

@AlaskanFrontier1 7 ай бұрын

Hopefully it serves you well

@nicolaasvoois2311 7 күн бұрын

And I like stainless, you don’t have to care for your knife so much, it takes care of you. I pealed an apple with my bark river in cpm 3 v and it stained brown straight away and had to polish it. I hate that, i hate rust, no need for it. I can get any falkniven almost at any time but if I want a br in magnacut or s35 vn or anything else but 3v I have to move heaven and earth or grow a beard 3 feet long

@davidneal6920 7 ай бұрын

Good technical info thanks. I own 3 x Fallkniven and really like them. I do however question the price given a very competitive market. Mine were all 2nd hand. Also the VG10 steel is good but at the price……. BTW I took my Fallkniven R2 Scout in Elmax hunting on Friday for the 1st time. The blade stacked up well processing a deer - had very good edge retention. Thanks for your videos 🇺🇸 🇳🇿

@bdcochran01 7 ай бұрын

I don't disagree with your criticisms of the S1. That is why I own multiples of the F1 and the A1 and don't own an s1. People mentioned Hattori and Kizlyar.. I have them. A Kizlyar Sensei is on a shelf near the computer . . . a last ditch tool.

@miamivicer 7 ай бұрын

Great!

@AlaskanFrontier1 7 ай бұрын

Thanks

@12345Sui 4 ай бұрын

This vid has BS written all over it 😵‍💫

@AlaskanFrontier1 4 ай бұрын

@@12345Sui you played yourself

@PTSDexplosion 2 ай бұрын

Falkniven is overpriced, inferiorly performing crap nowadays. Paying hundreds of dollars for basically 440c is ridiculous, for the price of some of their knives you could get knives from, say, Bark River, made in the US out of 3v or other better steels, better handle materials and better sheath. Their NL series is especially ridiculous, same 440c variant (vg10), but stacked leather handle, which in their mind is supposed to somehow justify the price being $400+. Also, their knives are as much as Swedish as most of Cold Steel's knives are American.