Why I HATE working on Mesa Amps - Greg Martin's Mesa-Boogie Mark IIB

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The Guitologist

The Guitologist

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In this video, we'll take a look at Kentucky Headhunters guitarist Greg Martin's early 1980s Mesa Mark IIB 60W combo. This one has several factory options such as the Graphic EQ board and Reverb. He's complaining it's too noisy. We'll try to determine why and along the way, we will discuss why even vintage Mesa amps are so hard to work on and why many techs don't like taking them in for repair. This one appears to have also been modded at the factory (perhaps later?) from the typical Mark IIB schematic with a post effects level control which operates like an overall Master Volume for the preamp. In the end, we will substitute a 12AU7 for the 12AX7 in the V1 position and demonstrate how that has little effect on the amount of overdrive these amps can produce. Hard rock lead tone is one thing they do VERY well.
Since publishing this video, a viewer has alerted me to the fact that this example has a popular factory mod done by Mike Bendenelli "Mike B" at Mesa. It includes the post effects level control on the back panel and a movement of the effects send and return from V2A cathode follower to another point. The change allows V2A to act as a traditional gain stage, thereby increasing the overall gain of the amp and putting it closer to a Mark IIC+ in terms of overdrive.
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@scottjamable
@scottjamable 3 жыл бұрын
That MKII B has the very popular post phase inverter fx loop / reverb mod done by Mike B at boogie. Very cool amp and the mod fixes a few things that were done right in the MK II C's
@scottjamable
@scottjamable 3 жыл бұрын
Greg would benefit from keeping the presence knob down, that and the treble and gain can get out of hand if not balanced correctly. They have the best reverb out of all of the boogies to me and can sound so black face clean. I had one for a long time and wanted to get this mod done but couldn't find anyone local who knew what to do.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up on this. I don't give this back to Greg until Friday, so I might open her back up and draw out the mods on a schematic since I cannot find one online anywhere detailing this mod. I know it has to do with moving the effects loop from the current V2B position and changing that stage from a cathode follower to a normal gain stage, but I don't know much else. The only other place to put the effects loop would be one stage later, right before the EQ junction and post front panel Master Volume. I'll try to confirm that if I have time to get back in there. Factory mods would also explain some of the flying leads, the 1991 service RA#, and what appeared to be newer Mesa branded power caps already changed out. Probably will be a Part II.
@scottjamable
@scottjamable 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitologist that would be awesome if you mapped that out, You'd be doing a lot of amp owners a huge favor, techs too!! I know this mod also increases the gain a little, tiny sacrifice on the clean channel but great for the lead channel. And gives it another master volume and better control over the volume and gain of the two modes. I bet if you needed Mike B would talk to you about any questions. Makes me want to buy my amp back and mod it. I see these mods on Mk ii's for sale and it's always nice if a buyer gets one that's already been done, I think it costs about $600 if they do it. They automatically charge about 2-300 to go through the amp first and bring it up to par then about that much more for the mod. I wish they would share their circuits and mods like we see on Fender and Marshall, I know they are pretty protective of their designs. ;-)
@zenosonik
@zenosonik 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitologist Looking forward to part II, but yeah, they certainly stuff too much crap per square inch than any other brand that I have personally worked on. I've worked on a good number of Boogies over the years (Starting with a Mesa Studio 22 - that I scrimped and saved for in high school- that unwittingly turned into a veritable training camp of sorts for Boogie repairs) and the biggest pain in the ass, for me at least, was a tremoverb that hummed like the dickens. Talked to Mikey B at Boogie on more than a few occasions, and there seems to be a practice of them picking their pre-amp tubes for lowest hum. I finally solved the issue and it wasn't the pre-amp, but after soldering in an un-soldered heater wire that I discovered, the problem went away. I'd spent hours in that amp and it was weird that I hadn't noticed it sooner than I did.
@aristocaster
@aristocaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottjamable That was the annoying thing with 2 series, it was pain trying to balance clean and lead channel and still had o good sound on both channels.
@davidplatt8915
@davidplatt8915 3 жыл бұрын
I inherited a Mesa Blue Angel Dual Rectifier in great condition from my brother who passed two years ago, today, coincidentally. Thanks bro. And, I'm just an ol' country drummer with a few guitars sitting around that I should learn to play but I enjoy Brad's work, his easy going style and his playing. Thanks man!
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and for watching, David.
@roscoepcoltrane23
@roscoepcoltrane23 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite quote came from Greg Martin. I was at a clinic with him and Andy Timmons. They asked Greg what his favorite effect was and he said my cord. Great answer.
@barretprivateer8768
@barretprivateer8768 3 жыл бұрын
Reverb vibrato, chorus, tremolo, and delay appear on more songs than they don't. Maybe not so much vibrato and trem these days. Find me a song not played on an acoustic that's 100% dry with no effects at all, I'll wait.
@nezmustard
@nezmustard 3 жыл бұрын
Do you believe in life after Love?
@darrellkelly7614
@darrellkelly7614 3 жыл бұрын
I think its great that Brad gets to work on such a high profile guitarists amp. Especially a Boogie knowing what he will find inside. This was a great video. Thanks Brad......
@mesamark3
@mesamark3 3 жыл бұрын
The old Mark series.... some of the finest amps ever made in my opinion
@bjhvapes2703
@bjhvapes2703 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, the Mark III...and to think how many I bought and sold for around $600 on Harmony Central back in the day...
@lordhotdawg9902
@lordhotdawg9902 3 жыл бұрын
I was interesting in trying to find one . I’m glad I got some certification on these amps before I went searching
@6nosis
@6nosis 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordhotdawg9902 RIP English Language; it’s almost like you are trying to tell us something m’lord. I can fill it in me bones. Alas the nod I experienced from my last fix hath won me over. Fair the swell !
@idolhanz9842
@idolhanz9842 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjhvapes2703 got mine for 500 out of a store in Sacramento.
@jeepmanxj
@jeepmanxj 3 жыл бұрын
@@6nosis Here is a tough concept, perhaps people in non English speaking countries use the internet too? Maybe those non native speakers also enjoy this channel and Mesa?
@chanceklippstein
@chanceklippstein 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Brad. Love these kind of videos. Also sick playing at the end there man. Keep rocking
@davedaveleadguitar
@davedaveleadguitar 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you were up to task to take on another Mesa, i wasnt sure you would. Nice job! You sure made the amp Boogie in the end!!! Cheers Brad!!
@barbershoppodcast
@barbershoppodcast 3 жыл бұрын
Mesa - the BMW of guitar amps.
@dennismoes7281
@dennismoes7281 3 жыл бұрын
An amp for frustrated morons with small dicks?
@anxiousnation3820
@anxiousnation3820 3 жыл бұрын
@@dennismoes7281 Now Dennis don't go projecting again :).
@comajoebuck999
@comajoebuck999 3 жыл бұрын
Service schedule will kill ya’...
@coliimusic
@coliimusic 3 жыл бұрын
"It was great for the first ten gigs or so then I had to pay 400$ for a new input jack and..."
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing about a really great guitar repairman is "I hate working on these amps but I'll do it!" Love your videos man!
@InTheSh8
@InTheSh8 3 жыл бұрын
"It keeps playing the wrong notes!" Hahaha, glorious!
@azraelblick4117
@azraelblick4117 3 жыл бұрын
That board looks like a high school class project. I finally “get it” concerning Mesa.
@haplozetetic9519
@haplozetetic9519 3 жыл бұрын
And most of the participants were drunk.
@daleyoung87
@daleyoung87 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get the comment. Mesa made some great stuff.
@haplozetetic9519
@haplozetetic9519 3 жыл бұрын
@@daleyoung87 The way the components are arranged, crammed together and often over top of others appears to be done by someone with very little experience. Those who have worked on many amps can tell the difference at a glance, even from a distance, and it is considered very poor design.
@Geopholus
@Geopholus 3 жыл бұрын
@@daleyoung87 . If You ever worked on amps You would get it! Ergonomically Mesa's are impossible to work on, and so messily kluged together. What can be done in 5 minutes on a pre 1983 Fender takes about two days on a Mesa Mark II-II etc (unless it is just basic easy stuff). Please notice , the missing land and jumpered over wire @11:40 (upper left 1/3rd of view);,.. thats because when You try to replace a component the circuit trace delaminates.. God forbid you have to remove a board. You literally have to disassemble the whole thing, including taking out at least 50 parts that block access to whatever You have to get at. The remarkable thing is: You can mod a Fender Twin R or Super -R so that the input end is virtually the same as a Mark I-II or III (minus the 5 band graphic EQ), and get the Fenders, to do a nice Mesa sounding OD, with Master Vol, etc, and they can be just as easy to work on as the original Fender.
@arloross
@arloross 3 жыл бұрын
Another Cool informative Video, and a Great Jam at the EndRocking! Keep Rockin!
@dkuntz2155
@dkuntz2155 3 жыл бұрын
Those are some good licks, Brad! And I just saw your video on Blackstar. I was just about to buy one. Thank you!
@michaelgranka7904
@michaelgranka7904 3 жыл бұрын
I own 3 of these boogies. 76 and 2 early 80's. Needless to say I love em.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
They're fine until you have to work on them. :D
@leosun8469
@leosun8469 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitologist I have several older Mesa amps. They’re pretty damn robust. And when you do “have” to work on them, send them back to Mesa. Mike Bendenelli will make them as good as new. Done.
@dan_perry
@dan_perry 3 жыл бұрын
@@leosun8469 indeed! My MKIII has NEVER failed me in the 30+ years I've owned it.
@SilentNightBodomNight
@SilentNightBodomNight 3 жыл бұрын
@@dan_perry Incredible. I don’t know what’s more impressive. The fact you’ve owned it for 30 years, or it’s been rock solid for that long.
@offaxisdude
@offaxisdude 3 жыл бұрын
TOURED 20 YEARS WITH MY EARLY 80'S CLASS 2C..........................AT LEAST 250 GIGS A YEAR ,STILL SOUND GREAT WHEN I RETIRED 4 YRS AGO....I REPLACED TUBES EVERY YEAR.....
@Eddy63
@Eddy63 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid Brad ...It sounded really good at the end ... Nice PRS ...
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Sounds really good for overdriven tones.
@scottyhughes9179
@scottyhughes9179 3 жыл бұрын
a great vid and restore, thanks for posting.... I recently had my 1984 MARK IIC+ gone over closely by my tech, with direct guidance from M.B. at MESA (he signed the amp originally) - the results are amazing... a gorgeous restoration was had!!
@jrockofages5413
@jrockofages5413 2 жыл бұрын
Who can do the Mark IIC Simulclass to C+ mod?
@scottyhughes9179
@scottyhughes9179 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrockofages5413 not sure who can, call Mesa and ask.
@austinisfullpleasedontmove653
@austinisfullpleasedontmove653 3 жыл бұрын
I left Port Arthur and moved to Austin in 87 with my best friend Devin Weber. We sold steaks and seafood door to to door for his gung-ho Zig Zeigler esque oldest brother Gerald. Gerald made millions pumping up sales guys to venture out to Belton and nowheresville to sell his wares. At night we jammed because Gerald played guitar and so did I and Devin is a bass player. Overnight he ended that career and started building amps under his wife's maiden name Kendrick. He did the same thing with amplification as he did with steak/seafood sales. Pioneered in an unorthodox manner that was always interesting. This vid took me back to those days. Thanks man.
@sonnygruntstick
@sonnygruntstick Ай бұрын
I remember them well, he also serviced amps, etc. Those are the old school Austin days when Ray Hennig's shop was on South Lamar, and he had a wall of 50's Fenders and Gibsons...probably millions of dollars today.
@dave1135
@dave1135 3 жыл бұрын
Hey brad, love your opening. That HBO jingle brings back all kinds of happy memories of the early to mid 80s, from my friends and I sitting down to watch the feature presentation to cuddling under a blanket with my girlfriend with only the light from the tv screen.
@marksc1929
@marksc1929 3 жыл бұрын
" Mess of Boogie .."
@dimefan1178
@dimefan1178 3 жыл бұрын
My fave was when Brad called it “messy booger” in the Russian accent. Flex !!
@bernhardnizynski4403
@bernhardnizynski4403 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@pauldavis6356
@pauldavis6356 3 жыл бұрын
Nuthin like a PRS thru a Boogie on a rainy day !
@j.reveille6815
@j.reveille6815 3 жыл бұрын
Have a prs ce 24...just found and bought the amp I let go 30 yrs ago. Mark III blue.
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 3 жыл бұрын
And Brad.
@michaelgreen5206
@michaelgreen5206 3 жыл бұрын
EBMM Majesty for me, but like the CU24, too.
@Marshall-uy2dv
@Marshall-uy2dv 3 жыл бұрын
Except a PRS through a super lead with a 4 x 12 loaded with greenbacks lol!
@uptownphotography
@uptownphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. You always do really interesting videos. I used to own a Mesa Mark IIA (which they were originally just called a Mark II back in 1979 when I bought it). I really liked the amp and one mystery I have until this day is when I first got the amp (directly from Mesa...the only way to buy them back then) the amp had a very sweet clean channel. What it did was you could push it into to a sustaining overdrive sound and also there was a lot of note bloom in the clean channel blooming into sustaining harmonics. At some point (around 4-5 months after getting the amp) I deciding to take the Eminence speaker out and replace it with an Altec that I had handy, (I couldn't afford the upgraded EV speaker from Mesa at that time), well what ever happened along the way, I don't know, as I lost that over driven capable clean channel and lost the very pleasant note bloom it would exhibit. Even after returning the Eminence in the amp, it still never came back. I did eventually, put an EV12L in there, (like you could buy from Mesa) but never did get that really sweet over drive and sweet note bloom from the clean channel again. Just a mystery to me what happened. Most Mesa amps I was aware of just had a really clean first channel without the over drive and note bloom, so I guess mine was a model where the components just worked together perfectly. I really can't explain it... All The Best, Phil NYC Area
@Robert-xn3jb
@Robert-xn3jb 3 жыл бұрын
You have my complete sympathy! I had one where the current kept finding alternative paths on the circuit boards. Grrr.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I did a 4-part, hair puller series on one doing that.
@moonboogien8908
@moonboogien8908 3 жыл бұрын
That board looks like what I see in my nightmares after I've been soldering stuff all day.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of those where the more it gets repaired, the worse and worse it will get.
@alecboyyes
@alecboyyes 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitologist Could you imagine fixing it, then realising you hadn't quite soldered one of the lower components properly.
@rollomaughfling380
@rollomaughfling380 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitologist You should take a crack at my Acoustic 165. All PCB with traces the width of a human hair millimeters from ground, etc. Like the Yamaha CS-80 of guitar amps.
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn 3 жыл бұрын
@@alecboyyes that's why you test EVERY solder connection before moving on to the next. Soldering without the DMM handy is asking for trouble.
@zeppo20
@zeppo20 3 жыл бұрын
I had one for almost 30 years, best combo amp of tha 80' and 90's.
@MisterNiles
@MisterNiles 3 жыл бұрын
The reason I've never owned a Boogie is because I've always liked my amp techs.
@therealrobstark2916
@therealrobstark2916 Жыл бұрын
The world needs more boogie specialist. Especially if tube amps are going to keep being a thing. Boogie is amazing Randal is a genius
@scottm121
@scottm121 3 жыл бұрын
Badass results man. Sounds nice.
@sawyerriggs9525
@sawyerriggs9525 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome info and awesome playing!
@brianwilkey5691
@brianwilkey5691 2 жыл бұрын
Love your lead playing at the end of this, Brad.
@cobblewright
@cobblewright 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Mesa Boogie Rocket 44 that failed while being used - heavy smoke seeped out of it (not a lot) and it went silent. Maybe a cap went? Wondering if it's worth fixing. It had a great sound.
@allendickeson442
@allendickeson442 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my first native sons guitar strap and I love it just bought another one
@podfuk
@podfuk 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I love old Mesa Boogies :D
@zandig666
@zandig666 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your vids bud I absolutely love watching
@graxjpg
@graxjpg 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the messy booger. Thanks for another excellent video!!
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@michaelanderson3703
@michaelanderson3703 3 жыл бұрын
Got a fender mustang amp for Christmas two years ago and love it .
@Jonathan-tn7id
@Jonathan-tn7id 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this as they look crazy complicated inside. Tho I’m sorry for any head mash this gave you Brad I know you love these!
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
I like the lead tones you can coax out of them with some fiddling. The cleans are just ok. Depends heavily on the speaker.
@Jonathan-tn7id
@Jonathan-tn7id 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitologist yes you had a nice tone in the playing at the end, I’ve never been able to play one so I cannot personally testify on their tone in person. Would like one tho especially a lonestar. Also enjoyed your dummy load vid nice to see more of the amp tech vids from you. Speaking of which.. what happened to “when you don’t know what the fu@k your doing ask an amp tec??” 🤣😂
@mattvdh
@mattvdh 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a really fun amp to play, lots of features!
@martonkovacs7584
@martonkovacs7584 3 жыл бұрын
FLEX IT TO PIECES!!!!! Before it’s too late!
@marcodoria
@marcodoria 3 жыл бұрын
I have an acoustic model 165, that is a similar amp. Weighs a ton but I love it. Thanks for the videos!
@83roadstar
@83roadstar 3 жыл бұрын
I have two Boogies, one is a Tremoverb , Studio 22 Plus both great amps, My amp tech didn't complain when he recapped it...great amps!
@cameronsmith1800
@cameronsmith1800 3 жыл бұрын
I have an ‘83 like this, but with cream tolex. It absolutely rips with a 5751 in the V1 position and a Celestine alnico cream in it. Those Mark IIs are killer amps!
@ricvis44
@ricvis44 3 жыл бұрын
I need the Greg Martin Blues Mod on my amp! Greg is the Man!
@TheCrain
@TheCrain 3 жыл бұрын
Your intro bslapped me with nostalgia lol. My step dad was obsessed with recording movies from HBO on VHS.
@darkallyrecordings4931
@darkallyrecordings4931 3 жыл бұрын
Tasty licks as usual sir!
@cantyouhearmeknocking1961
@cantyouhearmeknocking1961 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE Mesa amps! I have never had to do anything to the ones I have owned except change the tubes & clean the pots! Maybe a cap replaced, but nothing serious, EVER! Built like a tank, & tone for DAYS!! I have a late 80's Studio Caliber 20 watt combo. No slider EQ. Just a solid, loud, 20 watt 2 channel amp that sounds freaking killer. I also love old Marshall amps too. I have several of those that I would never sell. To each his own, I guess!! Rock on, man!
@rhykko77
@rhykko77 3 жыл бұрын
I did a very minor circuit repair and though no pro, I found the internals to really be problematic in doing efficient service
@grosebud4554
@grosebud4554 2 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to work on my bell and Howell 385? I’ve had it modded already but my tech was unable to fix a few issues. The “mods” on it currently are very few and far between and it’s mostly stock like lots of people keep them
@tomhobbies6888
@tomhobbies6888 3 жыл бұрын
Man i could listen to you play all day long very nice Love the vids Later
@l6srob990
@l6srob990 3 жыл бұрын
When you first plugged in your guitar the tone was awesome
@carlbamburg7439
@carlbamburg7439 3 жыл бұрын
I know Steve and Greg.. Super nice guys and they've got tons of great stories from over the years..
@skycarl
@skycarl 3 жыл бұрын
Ah,,,, Boogie,,, the nemesis of amp techs and all involved.
@addieandleesfunplayaddiean7325
@addieandleesfunplayaddiean7325 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Mesa amps. Mark 1 2003 reissue, a 1996 Heartbreaker and a 1989 Studio Calibre 22. The 22 is a much overlooked amp. Amazing little beautiful sounding amp. In terms of dependability and organized design, easier to work on layout, and amazing sound, Soldano takes the cake! I use a Reverbosonic along with my Mesa amps. All killer amps, but Soldano is built like a tank and never needs major repair.
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 3 жыл бұрын
Mesa amps are an exercise in OVER COMPLICATION. My Fav amp is the SJV that I built... it's simple, and sounds awesome.
@nesta8518
@nesta8518 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Mesa boogie studio.22! Best amp ever. Worth fixing. Can’t be replaced… over 20 years old and no worries….
@chrischwaz7788
@chrischwaz7788 3 жыл бұрын
We’re did you get your knowledge I’m starting out on learning how to do tube amp repair what books and DVDs or classes should I be taking to get to we’re you are and be fixing all kinds of stuff I’ enjoy your videos thanks keep putting them on
@mark64tanner
@mark64tanner 3 жыл бұрын
Remember lugging one od those up and down stairs. Loads heavier than they look. cheers 👍✌😎
@teacuppermike2568
@teacuppermike2568 3 жыл бұрын
Between the beastly transformer and birch ply chassis, it adds up. But I think that’s part of the magic. I’ve had my Boogie combo 23 years and it’s worth the extra muscle. :-)
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. It's like they took all that lead shielding they left out of the moon missions and stuck it inside Mesa amps instead..
@Babillonia
@Babillonia 3 жыл бұрын
Love these Mesa amps. Got 2 of them and want 2 more. 💖
@Johnsmusic416
@Johnsmusic416 3 жыл бұрын
Was he happy with the outcome when he got it back? Or was the noise something else?
@johnfair62
@johnfair62 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Marshall 800 I need worked on. What is your information so I can send you my amp please?
@lanceday13
@lanceday13 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the point of PCB's in valve amps was to tidy up hand-wired mess. MB seem to have used it to make things considerably worse. Impressive. Always an education watching your amp videos Brad, many thanks!
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, this one may have been worked on several times in the past. Looks like it was at least worked on in 1991, maybe even by the Mesa factory. But still...just messy as Nick Nolte's hair in a police photo.
@MuvoTX
@MuvoTX 2 жыл бұрын
Don't they (manufacturers in general mind you not just MB) also do this to compact things down a bit? With so much preamp level processing and tone shaping going on...??
@SHREDTILLDEAD
@SHREDTILLDEAD 2 жыл бұрын
Also those old amps still have nylon pcb supports that detoriate over time for stacking and securing purposes. When the shipment gets jarred like my mark iii no stripe did it dislodged the lead from the power board containing the caps and basically opened the standby circuit. It was the most quiet noise free amp I have ever owned. Since I resoldered it , it is super noisey especially with the lead drive turned up. What did I do wrong? Was it maybe a metal bands fault?
@Bat21bravo
@Bat21bravo 2 жыл бұрын
Bendinelli is GOD -----> ...
@mamoynas
@mamoynas 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Brad. You reminded me of an amp (not a Mesa) that i had in for repair that had the same behavior with the noise going lower at higher volume settings. The damn thing broke into supersonic osc when the volume was high and that made the amp "sound" less noisy... Had to reroute some wiring and replace some resistors and 7025 that was in place of a 12ax and that fixed it
@RandalSmith
@RandalSmith 3 жыл бұрын
Played through a Studio .22 years ago. Was on the back line at a music festival in Mississippi. Great tone. Couldn’t afford one at the time and now they’re hard to find.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
There he is! Randall Smith!
@RandalSmith
@RandalSmith 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitologist well, no. I spell my name with one L. And I don’t build amps. Or repair them. And I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. But I do work for Gibson. Nice video, by the way. I can see why you don’t like to work on Mesa Boogies. And thanks for the reply.
@glenandrews2567
@glenandrews2567 3 жыл бұрын
Love my studio .22 bought it new in ‘ 87 had a .50 caliber head but it didn’t have the EQ it did crank with a Marshall 4x10 bottom...my Mk III BLEW TUBES and was sooooo heavy....peace...let’s see what Gibson does with them...
@cantyouhearmeknocking1961
@cantyouhearmeknocking1961 3 жыл бұрын
@@RandalSmith Gibson now OWNS Mesa Boogie! Shhhhh!
@RandalSmith
@RandalSmith 3 жыл бұрын
@@cantyouhearmeknocking1961 I know. I work for Gibson.
@super63strat
@super63strat 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Ii B 60/100 W probably an 1979_- 80 piggyback .This amp has been a pleasure to band with , all around beast with any guitar plugged into it . .Thanks for the most informative vid , enjoyed the demo as well ...
@Chad48309
@Chad48309 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen inside a Mesa of that age until today. Holy shit man, staring into that is a real trip.
@rubievale
@rubievale 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a MkIV brand new, the year they released the model, and it gave me nothing but trouble to the extent that I had it replaced by another which promptly started doing the same thing. It was great with new power valves but it would gradually become increasingly thin and lost the punch, fatness, and eventually became extremely microphonic. There was literally no one in Ireland back then who was able to fix it and I sold it and swore off Boogies until I bought a Triaxis around 7 years ago
@frantisca
@frantisca 3 жыл бұрын
Wow: your solo part at the end is awesome ! Are you using your index nail as a pick ?
@SimonGotlieb
@SimonGotlieb 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I get you Brad. I had a customer bring in a SimulClass 2:90 recently, where they had broken off the 8 ohm output off one of the Amphenol jacks at the back. What a nightmare getting that two story Amphenol connector out. Would have been much nicer if they had used good old Switchjack plugs for sure. Customer was running that power amp with a TriAxis preamp that somebody had had fun "fixing" and as a result it was sending 230V up your arm if you happened to touch the chassis while it was running. And somehow the LDRs in that puppy had gone bad too. Unnecessarily complication for sure.
@zz-.-
@zz-.- 8 ай бұрын
My MkIII exhibits the same behavior. Just so noisy. I watched the whole video very informative. What was the fix here in the end, just the tubes? What did you swap them with?
@nachom1971
@nachom1971 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Please keep us updated on Greg's opinion when he gets it. Its one of my peeves when I get a customer's amp and cannot find anything wrong with it for the most part. Some customers may interpret normal noise as abnormal. Its great if there is a chance to test the amps on location if its possible to get rid of the possibilities of bad wiring on site or bad cables like you said Brad. The guts of this amp look like a novice tinkerer's mess. Not only is it poor construction service wise but it also seems there was no thought on how things were laid out in terms of noise and temperature. BTW what is that funky heatsink doing there? Great choice on the 12au7, it also seems the cleaning had a positive effect too. Awesome playing at the end!
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
I plan on doing a bit more shooting when I drop it off, so maybe we'll get a Part II.
@GuitarWithDofka
@GuitarWithDofka Жыл бұрын
Amp sounds great and awesome playing
@sparkyguitar0058
@sparkyguitar0058 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I took my Boogie to an expert. It only took him a couple days to go through the whole thing and get it back to me RIGHT. He was the 2nd guy I took it to. The 1st Guy didn't have a clue. Took 2 wks and didn't fix a thing. My bad cause I was told who to take it to, but I started thinking, bad idea, he would be so busy it would take forever. When I got it back it went immediately to the right guy. Now that I know him everything will go to him. Always gotta find the right guy. 1 thing I never stated is mine is a 85 S O B. 60/100 watts, Reverb, 12L speaker. IMHO what makes mine easy is only 7 knobs on front 0 on back. No crazy stacked circuit boards.
@theweazel
@theweazel 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever check for DC on any of the coupling caps? That volume knob had some weird behavior!
@pedraw
@pedraw 3 жыл бұрын
Did I hear some good ole.....Black Betty riff in there?................awesome Boogie amp. Thank you Brad and also say thanks to Mr.s Martin for letting you video the encounter.
@CStockner
@CStockner 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!!!
@brianwilkey5691
@brianwilkey5691 3 жыл бұрын
One of the bands I played drums in, the guitar player had that amp (with a speaker mod). It was an outstanding sounding amp but it's never worked reliably for more than a couple months at a time.
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 3 жыл бұрын
seems odd,they usually run for several decades without a single issue.your friend got one in a state of disrepair obviously
@brianwilkey5691
@brianwilkey5691 3 жыл бұрын
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 It was new when he bought it. It was fine for a couple of years but the longer it was around, the more problems it had. I'm not even sure it's in use anymore. He bought another new one though. *shrugs*
@syckstryng7118
@syckstryng7118 3 жыл бұрын
Over the past 16 years I have owned a few older Mesa models, a 110 Subway Rocket, a 112 Nomad 55, a 410 Nomad 55, a 112 Mark IV and a 112 .50 Cal, the only one I really liked was the Subway Rocket, the Mark IV wasn't too bad but it was a beast! I'm not an amp guy but being proficient with a soldering iron I replaced all the control pots on the .50 Cal and it was a factory rats nest, it's really crazy how dependent the controls are on each other and how much one effects the other, I do regret selling the Subway Rocket, for such a small amp it had more balls gain and tone wise over the other ones except the Mark IV. The sad part is that Mesa has to keep coming out with new models and discontinued the older ones that were truly their best amps!
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
Mesa has done a lot of innovating over the years, I'll give them that. The Mark Series are great sounding amps when you dial them in. They take some getting used to if you're coming from the world of Fender and Marshall stuff. The later stuff I don't think I'd want to ever rely on if I was on a world tour. That's just me.
@bleufishtv
@bleufishtv 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a Mesa boogie mark 2a basically getting restored lol . Who ever put their fingers in it had no clue what they were doing. I’m so excited to get it back. In it’s 42 years has never had a proper cap job
@mizraim5890
@mizraim5890 5 ай бұрын
Brad, what is your favorite amps/circuit build wise?
@oliverlangner5202
@oliverlangner5202 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! Bring it on, Brad! Had one of these on my bench couple of month ago for "just a" a cap job. Kinda drove me nuts.
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 3 жыл бұрын
god damned,thats a fine sounding amp....one of the best driven tones,period
@BOBService417
@BOBService417 3 жыл бұрын
Hello.When will you post video review of LCD microscope?
@cecilmusick8629
@cecilmusick8629 3 жыл бұрын
Brad, what's your thought's of graphic EQ's on guitar amps?
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
They do allow more accurate shaping of your tone, but it's a good thing they're footswitchable because an EQ setting that works for overdrive tones might sound like ass on cleans. So best to set cleans first with the normal EQ, then set the overdrive with the Graphic EQ punched in.
@Panhead49EL
@Panhead49EL 3 жыл бұрын
On those I swap out the innards with an Epiphone Junior. Really drops the noise floor. Only downside is my recycle guy pays next to nothing for old Mesa guts.
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
This is so wrong it's right again.
@jasonjeanty1384
@jasonjeanty1384 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I’ve got some questions about a video you did about vintage Japanese switches about five years back. Do you an email I can contact you with?
@hissinghed
@hissinghed 3 жыл бұрын
Try jumping the effects loop. If the buzz goes away, try cleaning up the fx loop jacks and tube sockets, or leave it jumped.
@billorourke7152
@billorourke7152 3 жыл бұрын
It looks just like a mark 3 blue stripe I had which was a 1988, maybe it's a mark IIIb?
@farfly7
@farfly7 3 жыл бұрын
I love your retro intros.
@Paul_Lane
@Paul_Lane 3 жыл бұрын
What is the story on Count Chocula? I’ve seen him on your bench for a few years it seems,. Great video as always.
@JHenzly
@JHenzly 3 жыл бұрын
Put the ax7 back in V1. The PRS has a great tone. My C+ 's Volume one does the same thing. It seems like you didn't finish the video. did you end up doing anything else besides the au7?
@RHR-221b
@RHR-221b 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you once again, Brad. A small PayPal donation just sent to you from my State Pension (👍), with much appreciation. Stay free, B. Rab 🍻 😎 🎯
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
You're amazing, Rab. Thank you for your continued support over the years. Hope you and the wife are doing well. Here's hoping we don't have another full YEAR of lockdowns to deal with.
@RHR-221b
@RHR-221b 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitologist Much appreciated, B. All fine, over here in Somerset, UK (although I will always remain a Scot, sans SNP ...). As for the 💉 farce/farse ... [insert text here]. All of it to you and your Darlings, Izzy (spl?) and Ivy! Maybe we'll meet soon enough, one of these old afternoons. Rab 🔊
@keendeesjarlais3636
@keendeesjarlais3636 4 ай бұрын
had one back in the day... boy do I miss that thing
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen you use the dummy loads on other amps, too. Seems like a great trick to have in your toolbox, pun intended.
@theampromancer757
@theampromancer757 3 жыл бұрын
Im currently working on one of these but the 60/100 watt version. Came back after the first time cause the caps started smoking. Replaced all the caps and resistors in the power section and now the power switch is smoking. Damn things are a house of cards!
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
Smoking the power switch!? Sounds like that needed a cleaning. Probably some carbonized material in there causing a resistance across the switch terminals.
@theampromancer757
@theampromancer757 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitologist I tried cleaning but then it start randomly popping and crackling sound. And then smoked again. Just ordered 2 new switches.. figured better safe than sorry and just replace both since they are cheap. I will say , this is the dirtiest amp I've ever worked on so most of the problems have been caused by filth and it was ordered on reverb and dropped during shipping so I had to glue the cabinet back together and all the fun stuff that comes with that.
@theampromancer757
@theampromancer757 3 жыл бұрын
This is only my second boogie and I have vowed to never touch another one.
@davidhelmuth6654
@davidhelmuth6654 3 жыл бұрын
That contact cleaning file is the business there. I do all kinds of interest and “hobbies “ can see this being great for points on a car. Any idea where to get them?
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 3 жыл бұрын
Found them: amzn.to/2OXoqNY
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 3 жыл бұрын
it looks like a points file already
@houseofshred3725
@houseofshred3725 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, what product are you using to clean those pots? There's a lot of noise out there regarding the subject, pun intended.
@stevefoudray487
@stevefoudray487 3 жыл бұрын
I repaired a triple rectifier. The rectifier board burned a hole from arcing. The electronic damage spread through the relay control circuits on other boards. Tedious.
@Jake-fo3rg
@Jake-fo3rg 3 жыл бұрын
Brad, have you considered widening the scope of your channel to include guitar playing tutorials? It would be instructive to hear how you taught yourself and maybe help others do the same.
@1977raider
@1977raider 2 ай бұрын
Amp sounds fantastic!
@williamwoody2832
@williamwoody2832 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw that "new" pot that was added to the back of the chassis and how close it is to the power transformer I thought "HUM". It's easy for 60 or 120 cycle hum to get into a circuit from power transformers or rectifiers so be aware if you put a pot or and input jack to close to them. been there - done that.
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