Why I love Botar | BIONICLE Deep Dive

[@Doot7C]

The Order gaslighting everyone into thinking Botar had been replaced with someone else entirely even though he just teleported back from the red star just to keep the star a secret 100% seems like something they'd do. New headcanon

[@heroranuva8295]

Lmao!

[@silversevenindustries409]

Another point about Botar's death, it could have been part of the Red Star plotline with Kopaka and Pohatu. Due to the "zombies on a space station" aspect of that story, he could have been one of the reanimated characters that the two Toa might have fought.

[@heroranuva8295]

Oh yeah, that could've been interesting

[@rothgang]

Botar is the grim reaper of bionicle. I think people were more afraid of the pit, which botar represents.

[@heroranuva8295]

Oh yeah, he really is

[@harrybechtle4333]

Omninous whistling intensifies

[@heyheyitsjae2475]

One of my favorite interpretations of Botor was some fan art that transformed his horns/ears into angelic wings that concealed his face until he was ready to confront someone. 3:59 What do you know, there it is!

[@NotKululu]

1:57 the irony is both survive except Botar

[@heroranuva8295]

Lmao!

[@alexanderconstantini6447]

This series keeps getting better and better! You are incredibly insightful and creative about your chosen topics. There hasn’t been much ground breaking Bionicle content for a while!

[@heroranuva8295]

Thank you so much! I always try to give it the best insight I can, cause I think the series really deserves it!

[@willwaggenspack6411]

Can you do voporak

[@igotbronze2742]

Botar leaves an impression just based on how he looks. His build is that of a nightmare creature. I really like Demitsorou's reimagining of him as some sort of angel though. It really fits his vibe.

[@SupBro-ww9go]

I have to agree

[@heroranuva8295]

He's a really good design. And yeah Demitsorou's art is amazing!

[@Yan_Alkovic]

I like how in the end it was Botar himself who didn’t survive

[@heroranuva8295]

Rip :'(

[@SlinkVI]

I’m really digging the fan art depicting Botar as a Biblically accurate angel.

[@akumaking1]

They should’ve used the Red Star to revive Botar-but originally as a zombie-like state and slowly regains his personality

[@heroranuva8295]

Oh yeah, that could've been cool!

[@finvaly]

Since Botar's purpose was to collect the fallen Order members, I wonder if some or all of Barraki originally served the Order.

[@heroranuva8295]

That's a really interesting idea! Especially in contrast to how Pridak once served the Brotherhood, could create an interesting dynamic there. In strict canon, it seems that they weren't, and possibly didn't even know about the Order before being sent to the Pit. Afterall, Botar brought in not just Order members but also any defeated criminal who was deemed an irredeemable threat to the universe. But I love being flexible with the story for the sake of exploring cool concepts, and at least one of them knowing the broader picture of the Order would be cool. Of the six, I think Ehlek might be an interesting possibility, since it was once said his species was given their claws by the Order

[@TyrannoNoddy]

Never thought about Botar that much, but you made a great case for him. Also... thinking about it, yeah, why kill him just to replace him with someone basically identitcal? The idea that he just teleports back from the Red Star is funny though. Wait... what if the replacement ISN'T a replacement but actually Botar? He's just playing a prank on everyone. If he's down to drop Tahtorak on Xia for the lolz, who's to say he's not just trolling everyone to make his job a bit more interesting? :P Also as someone else said here, the way you describe him really does have a Grim Reaper vibe to him.

[@heroranuva8295]

Lmao, that could be really funny. Literally the equivalent of putting on a fake mustache and walking back into work XD

[@Korohpu]

Botar was probably the only being that sucessfully said "F*ck around and find out, bro!" at Teridax, and for that alone he gets points from me. :D That theory about the Pit made me think, tho: What did the Order do with beings that could teleport, and could just leave the Pit at any time, if neither killing nor imprisoning them was an option? I guess the Makuta becoming Antidermis made that choice easier for them since then the Red Star couldn't revive them anymore anyway, so they just started murdering them if they stepped out of line, like Kojol and Tridax.

[@heroranuva8295]

Lmao yeah! And you bring up a good point, how would they deal with them? Just speculating, maybe the Pit had some sort of power dampeners. We've seen at least a few times that teleportation powers can be disrupted by certain kinda of energy, and it would make sense to have certain countermeasures, given how powerful many of the beings in Bionicle are

[@vaimantobe3034]

Stasis tubes?

[@micheal4526]

Axonn and brutaka are toys, and botar is the cat that jumped on their display shelf

[@TJAdkirson]

So, my Bionicle knowledge is limited to the comics, and it's been a while since I read them, so I recently watched Duckbrick's 9 hour lore video. Having watched that, Botar seemed a lot like Goku in DBZA using instant transmission, and I found that very funny.

[@kingdareth09]

I was thinking if you could make a video of explaining every single Toa from the bionicle timeline in timeline order. It would be pretty cool to see

[@heroranuva8295]

I might do something like that one day. I already have plans to do character arc deep dives, where I look at each individual main Toa and explore what their character arc was

[@coolbionicle]

You know what I find funny considering his job? "Botar" in spanish quite literaly means "to throw away" as in in the trash 😂

[@foshed_tv]

i love the Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution

[@heroranuva8295]

Lol!

[@BadAssXerx3]

interesting charactere, haven't buid him but the design looks mostly really cool only the big feet are weird

[@heroranuva8295]

Yeah the design was really cool, especially the head and torso

[@Chrokosaur]

I think it would have been way cooler if Makuta Teridax was simply able to rebuff him, and end their fight with a stalemate. Also, failing to compare his power to other characters would have been a better move, as it would add to the mystique surrounding him. These two alterations together would increase the prestige of Teridax's success more than just killing someone on the same power level.

[@heroranuva8295]

I don't know, I feel like the mystery added a lot more than knowing his power with certainty. Plus, if there was a character who could fight Makuta to a stalemate like that, it might reduce how threatening Makuta is

[@patricklenigan4309]

I think the Tahtarak events might have been a younger Botar?

[@heroranuva8295]

It was actually after the events on Voya Nui. The Tahtorak was but on Xia during the events of the Toa Nuva Blog, which was happening while the Toa Mahri were exploring the Pit

[@jennieesaltzgiver2925]

You know roodaka you could do a video on her and her "research projects"

[@jennieesaltzgiver2925]

And if roodaka is in resident evil or something like that well you get the idea

[@rossjohnstone4689]

Im glad im not the only one who liked botar and his death could have been avoided. I would have loved to have seen him play a role in the destiny war.

[@heroranuva8295]

Yeah, that could've been great!

[@jennieesaltzgiver2925]

Heroranuva maybe you could do a video on the places in Bionicle someday

[@heroranuva8295]

I definitely have plans to look at various locations in the future

[@ryanstephenson7312]

The order of Mata Nui will kill members of the order of Mata Nui to keep Artakha secret but won't kill those that are deemed irredeemable.

[@heroranuva8295]

You know, I actually have a theory as to why that is! I think that its because the Order may have known about the Red Star and its ability to resurrect MU inhabitants, and so they use the Pit for those so irredeemable, they believe that even if they died and came back they would still be a threat (and conversely I think that the resurrection function of the Red Star may have been written there by Greg to provide an explanation for that) Full video on my reasoning here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6eclJp9mbqMoM0

[@ryanstephenson7312]

@@heroranuva8295 I watched the video way back when, very good. But the body has to be teleported by the red star, if there's no body to teleport then they can't be revived. And Gaardus remembered his life before his resurrection because he recounted it to Kopaka and Pohatu. And the order of Mata Nui also missed the Crafter in their purge. But it's one of those small Bionicle plot holes that we will probably be arguing about till the end of time.

[@heroranuva8295]

@@ryanstephenson7312 True, its definitely not a perfect fit, but honestly Bionicle, and most long running stories have little holes like that. In a way, it makes the discussion fun!

[@ryanstephenson7312]

@@heroranuva8295 exactly. You should make a video speculating on who told the turaga that there were nuva masks for the Toa Nuva to retrieve on the island of Mata Nui after their Nuvaing

[@kevin-2.1]

I feel like Botar should of done more in the story.

[@emphorepolpatinedasenate]

Botar is a turd, because he teleported a creature in the middle of the weapon trade federation (I think it was the island of xia but I forgot) and essentially forcing the toa hagah to fight it.

[@Justario]

Hey thats not the spy from Tf2

[@syweb2]

???

[@Justario]

@@syweb2 He isnt the spy from tf2

[@heroranuva8295]

You sure? If not Spy TF2, then why appear out of nowhere behind you omae wa mou shindeiru?

[@Justario]

@@heroranuva8295 NANI?!?!?!?!?!?

[@TJAdkirson]

So, my Bionicle knowledge is limited to the comics, and it's been a while since I read them, so I recently watched Duckbrick's 9 hour lore video. Having watched that, Botar seemed a lot like Goku in DBZA using instant transmission, and I found that very funny.