Why I'm Casting For Echo Instead of Team Liquid

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[@Naguura]

Guys...They didn't pay more, pinky promise You can stop commenting that now lmao

[@Nr4747]

Would have made for a funnier video, though, if it had just been the "We've got to have MONEY" clip xD

[@Jessebona]

I don't see why this would be considered a bad answer anyway. Sports casting is a job, should you not be paid for it? It's not like it speaks to your integrity that you'd go where the money is.

[@Nr4747]

@@Jessebona Absolutely true.

[@hermanvanbiesen]

You did a great job this race, together with all the other casters. Echo once again got a superb casters team with great dynamic between everyone. Hope for a repeat again! Good luck for all your future endeavours!

[@Amy-ol3qb]

As a Liquid fan I feel your absence, but as long as you're out here helping me be the okayest boomy I can be, I'm happy with wherever you are!

[@rantco]

Thanks for the update Naguura. I miss seeing you on the RWF for Liquad but it def. makes more sense where you are in the world. Best of luck Naguura!!! Go Liquid!!!!!

[@thenaaru]

I've always been an Echo fan and was so happy to see you on their caster list this time round! As a fan I find Echo's stream more entertaining (for me, personal opinion of course) and rarely watch more than a few minutes of Liquid's at a time so it's been great to see you over on the other side.

[@alexsimkin6414]

Good to hear you're doing well, I've really been enjoying your casting

[@gwenmh]

It's also way better for exposure. Liquid's cast is good, but a lot of NA/Liquid viewers are eaten up by Max's stream, whereas the official Echo broadcast has way more eyeballs on it than any of the individual players.

[@fckihate69jokes]

yea, and its in reverse for echo. the main stream has most of the viewers.

[@beeman4266]

​@fckihate69jokes For a while there Gingi had more viewers than Max. That surprised me because people always tune into Max's stream because he's raid leading, gingi is usually just vibing.

[@Billyshatner88]

And not to mention you get to record from Sweden instead of some bland city in the US

[@carmelitaz]

@@beeman4266 EU vibes harder than NA confirmed

[@bigplant7901]

@@Billyshatner88 Exactly, imagine going to some lifeless wasteland like Los Angles when instead you could be in beautiful Nordvästersjsuppföljningssyst Sweden!

[@hybridactor]

Thanks for the perspective on this! I always love hearing about the business side of content creation. I was part of a decently popular WoW podcast back in Wrath and Cataclysm, and didnt appreciate at the time the work needed to be successful in content creation.

[@grimzzyhunt6998]

great to have you with Echo, you have great synergy with the other casters!

[@matthewjamesmjw4172]

I feel the same way- whoever wins, I just want an exciting race!

[@alyishiking]

I love that there's such friendly competition between the top guilds honestly. It makes the race that much more enjoyable as a viewer because I know everyone is having fun even if they aren't the winners in the end. Echo's casting team is BiS tho

[@Mitss_ORLY]

Echo are sore losers when they dont win

[@dragoblacksun250]

@@Mitss_ORLY you are projecting

[@cantfindaname123421]

What do you mean, friendly competition? The two guilds have openly admitted to not liking each other very much, and prefers to avoid talking to each other when possible (they do respect each other, though). Fans also act like toxic drunk sports team fans. Nothing friendly about it, but sure, it's entertaining

[@levilamperouge8917]

Hes right tho@@dragoblacksun250

[@danyD2765]

@@cantfindaname123421 you realise that max from liquid had podcasts with echo players? , they watched TGP groups togheter etc. Its mostly the fans that make the drama happen

[@DoctorTako]

I agree that’s it’s not a love one team hate the other mentality. I might be a bigger fan of Liquid than Echo but that’s because my environment I like to play in is more in line with how Liquid goods around a bit more than Echo. I’m still a fan of Echo and have massive respect for them, even if I’m rooting for Liquid to win. I would love to see another team or 2 jump up into the actual race to world first and have some insane competition between multiple teams.

[@Lynxie26]

great update. this shouldn't be necessary to even defend, but sadly the hardcore fans will find ways to be upset. I am typically a liquid fan but have enjoyed watching the echo stream this time around with you there. What matters most is that everyone's having a great time and a fair race.

[@FinnMike]

Whichever side of the pond you're on, you always do a great job at entertaining and informing us RWF enjoyers. Thanks for being awesome!

[@christopherpatricklizares5306]

Just watching the race. Mostly on Echo, but happy for whatever team winning. Glad things working out for you! Cheers!

[@A_Pocket_Theory]

Basically, it's all business. I can respect that. Good luck! I look forward to seeing you on the Liquid casts again if the stars align.

[@Garagantua]

Well it's also location. From what she said I'll assume that if the offers are similar, Echos will be better for her - she could get to sweden by train or a

[@Heero_effect]

Omg your casting while I’m watching this!!!! Also Echo’s casting and production team has been fantastic! Super professional and awesome

[@devourmentoffetus]

Thanks for clearing that up. We were so worried. Interested, too.

[@maLTar1992]

I'm so happy for your opinion on both orgs. They both are at the peak of the mountain on the same level. Lovely to hear from you happiness. My roots will always belong to Echo! :) good luck with more nice content creating.

[@marshallavilaiii7479]

This was a great video. She's very genuine and its quite refreshing.

[@amystow4169]

I've so enjoyed watched your casting, such a great addition to the amazing Echo casting squad!

[@mariadelirium]

I second this! Has been great having you part of the Echo casters, I hope they keep inviting you back with offers to good to refuse :)

[@Stylerflo99]

no its not a great addition. Shes a horrible person

[@avenire]

this is a cool video, thanks for giving us some insight into ur experience. i just hope u made this video because you wanted to and not because you felt like you HAD to as a result of ppl being rude or anything in streams. you rule, glad you're casting the race and hope u continue to in the future no matter who you are doing it for.

[@merenwen_gaming]

I’m usually not a fan of Echo but this raid I’m rooting for them because they are streaming on KZbin 😅😅😅 as a premium YT user I can finally enjoy it without waiting 9 ads on twitch.

[@SuboJvR]

Hey Naguura I really enjoyed seeing you on the RWF on Echo stream. Being based in the EU I tend to spend most time watching the EU streams and found myself drawn most to Echo's this time around. Your content as a group was fabulous and I really enjoyed the mix of technical/game focus alongside the banter, I thought your balance was really great and I learned a lot from watching your casts. I'm also really glad that you had good female representation in the caster team :)

[@Sast06]

Not bashing on previous casters but you absolutely added to the casting team this year, very good addition and I hope (as an Echo fan) that you are here next time.

[@amandapelland]

Makes total sense and well said Naguura.

[@firecracker1711]

i was really glad to see you on Echo's casting team. I think you, preach and alex were brilliant.

[@natholex]

Kinda jealous of the feeling that everyone wants to hire you haha. Happy for you.

[@bradyjohnson8955]

Its perfectly fair, under what you said, that casting for Echo is just easier for your schedule as your not having to travel and adjust. NA here and this race was insane! I enjoy watching players from both sides and GG Echo! Is well deserved!

[@johnathantroxtel1502]

Good luck to you, ma'am! Wishing you the very best!

[@annamooney1705]

I enjoy your casting no matter who or where!!

[@Sodaner]

I´m rooting for you ^^ no matter what team you are casting for :P

[@thomasschopflin6317]

Hi Naguura :) Do you miss being part of "the Race" as in being a WF-raider given the changed circumstances/opportunities nowadays?

[@KodokuTenshiClan]

A lot of the viewers don't even know Liquid and Echo have no bad blood. It's the viewers that create the tensions and distance.

[@Av8oR_127]

Good work! I'm ready for Method to get back on top.

[@Alex-qi8mn]

Great honest video. It's about business and it's okay,. I loved to watch you and the other caster. It was a great Race and both guilds were just 1% separated.

[@jellocook]

ok but real talk, what are those displates on the wall in the background

[@SKyh1gh29]

Good for you girl! Keep it up!🤗

[@Gobi123ful]

It's a great race with two great teams! But there are few who point out, Echo's casting stream spins up to 50 thousand wievers while Max stream takes up most of the Liquid casting stream. So it's just a much bigger platform with more eyes on you as a caster. Don't forget Swedish meatballs with mash now that you're in Sweden! And keep up the great job.

[@_Travey]

Oh damn I didnt even notice you werent on the Liquid steam!

[@jenihansen7201]

I love both teams. However, Whaaz is my very favorite person. Also, Palamor is another favorite. He is just a wonderful young man.

[@BrennenL]

You're doing awesome.

[@TheKillDred]

Freelancing is a smart choice. All comes down to putting yourself in better postions that fit your agenda, not others. Well done for getting to do that. Takes effort and time of course.

[@nervio2701]

Not that liquid cast is bad or anything. But man echo's cast and production is just goated, and now is even better with you in it. It makes more sense to you to cast in EU thats obvious. This race is so close 🔥

[@EiyaTV]

I miss you but you slay no matter what

[@isaaccallaway785]

Sorry I may get band for this. But I just love to hear you talk. Makes my ears very warm.

[@ronin2963]

That's like switching from Coke to Pepsi! The shame😂

[@TS-uc4hi]

This was a lot of explanations and beating around the bush instead of just saying Echo offered more money lol

[@NRWC93H]

Do you know if there where ever talks about a shared/combined RWF event of Liquid and Echo? I think about this every race. :D

[@agronnak]

that's pretty much impossible due to one team having to move to another region and therefore losing all the helpers for splits and whatnot. Whoever changes region is most likely doomed

[@TacBlades]

Money first, it's just business if it's your career you need to be able to work with everyone.

[@EdoGDL]

Excellent move Nagura, tbh idc about the teams just about the race and you being now casting for echo gives my view to that team

[@alexandrugrosu7911]

Simping for a woman with a male body

[@faelirra]

*insert SPY joke here* Seriously though, you did an amazing job like all the casters did for the world first event for Echo. The back and forwards with all the casters you were with were amazing. Enjoyable to watch :)

[@simonstrengmann943]

I only watch the drama every race cause its hillarious

[@usuallyroamingrob3427]

Would be cool to see Naguura cast for method.

[@gasgano8255]

Nothing against Method but they need to up their broadcast. Maybe i was unlucky whenever i tuned in but it was pretty boring.

[@MacGregor3]

I just wanna watch a good race. But i generally want echo to win more often than not because I feel like they do the most work to build the community around rwf.

[@pitpack2355]

it's all about the benjamins

[@Kimera_Alternate_Realities]

I'm not part of either guild, i like the Race because I enjoy the game, crazy i know.

[@NeoChromer]

Long story short - I cast for whoever pays me the most

[@johnwarner4178]

Money and convenience, and that is 100% absolutely what I would do too

[@MichaSennin]

its who gets you the biggest pay-check, and thats how this works. every penny spend from Echo was well invested. The Casters were by far the best part of the Race. You fit right into the bunch.

[@Onslaught516]

million dollar man- everybody's got a price!

[@kaapekkaapek6600]

LoL. Agent will be negotiations ^^

[@melissaunderwood8396]

I like all the teams ❤

[@Nightstalker314]

In short: Tribalism is stupid.

[@TheTysonKane]

It is healthy for the scene for organisations to compete over talent and Nagurra. Like it has been said, it's just awesome that there are opportunities on two continents to do this. Even 5 years ago this was a dream. One thing I always noted was the respect Max and the other had for a real OG in Naguura. Really awesome to see, and I think it bodes well for the future too. Liquid as a brand made sense, but being in EU and Echo seems like the most natural fit. One day when it is global release they will have to ship you out to the middle of the Atlantic so both NA and EU can share your talents!

[@sog9144]

she's an international spy!!! xd rolf

[@Freestyle80]

I think Echo’s casting team is just miles ahead (viewership reflects that) and you’ve been a welcome addition to them imo, great job Hope u come back next time and maybe Tettles finally casts again there as well so we get those double moonkin casting slots 😂

[@MichelPal]

cool pyjama. Anyway, that makes sense :)

[@bravefastrabbit770]

(Returning) Paragon-hooligan here. I have absolutely no idea wtf is going on

[@aaronzheng9772]

Jumping Reasons? :)

[@RetroGenetic]

I'm a long time fan of Team Liquid (early-mid 2000's, SC/2 ), but when it comes to WoW I am more partial towards Echo and enjoy watching the race.

[@YaKB33]

RWF was a Naguura diff

[@mch3486]

TL:DR - In the end it is all about 💸& Opportunity. And thats good. You also need to earn money, take what you get.

[@Gudwin2334]

I like your watch.

[@gasgano8255]

I felt like you casting for Echo this tier dramatically shifted the viewing experience in their favour. Echos was a bit better than before and to be honest, Liquids was quite a bit worse than from what i remembered watching Vault. I have enjoyed the girlpower buffonery whenever you shared a segment with Meeix and Eiya, so will miss that.

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

Basically she casts for whoever makes it rain harder on her. Same with content

[@EpicMovieSanctuary]

I would love to see you cast for Liquid again next race

[@moos5221]

Nice cover-up story, but we all know you are a secret spy for Liquid!

[@beaugrieve1913]

Naguura, this is good to know. You don't have to prove anything to anyone. You're a awesome person anyway. Keep on doing you Naguura. Much respect to you.

[@chris92like1]

Miss the times of pvpers being the alphas Not the fairys.

[@Overbuilt.Gaming]

You don't need a 9 minute video to say that you just didn't want to travel stateside. Like a few have mentioned most of the viewers are in maximums stream anyway and not the actual broadcast. Lot of the reason is b/c the casters stop calling the pulls and go off on random subjects like yogurt and socks. But what I really like is both echo and liquid cast streams run the maximum amount of ads per hour that twitch will allow, it's when they run their own ads and they are interrupted with twitch ads is what takes the cake.

[@micaberkesify]

The biggest winners of the last RWF? The playerbase. The fact that this went out to 150k+ viewers at some point on Twitch made it very relevant again. Also very glad that Liquid and Echo burried the hatchet.

[@MrBiff123]

A beautiful, intelligent and talented woman without an onlyfans how wild.

[@Pellepelle14]

Liquid whoooooo 😂😂

[@rodneyadler9118]

To be honest, I don't watch the RWF so I don't care who wins. The only reason I would watch would be for a caster/streamer like yourself (Adeen, etc) that inspires me to be a better player

[@phreakisop9810]

she wanted the winners, cant complain

[@KhandeeTV]

I like the Echo casters so much more than I do the Liquid casters. Aside from Meeix and Jak, they are really strange and like to kind of mumble. It seems like they are trying to demonstrate how "cool" they are instead of pumped about casting for RWF. And that is not a vibe I am into. As you said, the sportsmanship on the teams toward one another is great. I love that. But the casting teams...Echo wins.

[@wgcdrelliot8989]

Agreed, liquid’s casters are not necessarily bad (i am big fan of jak for instance), but i feel like they are not as interesting as echo’s. Preach and Fatboss together are a fiery combo, steakloins and dratnos have such a good synergy, naguura and jeath are really interesting and insightful, and so on and so on.

[@Harvey.and.Arya.the.samoyeds]

Sorry, what’s casting ??

[@jamieskovgaard5719]

I mean im from denmark and Echo has danish players so i love following Them and echo so Big echo fan even tho they are kinda underdogs bc of the reset times ☺️

[@zerti86]

i think echo clearly offered the better deal. no need to beat around the bush here, it's a business after all xD

[@robin.her93]

Another Part of her business is streaming and Stuff….she earns a lot on a Long Term with this i think!

[@alyishiking]

also the time difference thing. 100% can't imagine going halfway around the world for this and having to adjust for streaming and etc. Staying in Europe makes more sense.

[@zerti86]

exactely what you guys say. that's part of a deal for me. f.e. if i get paid the same and i have the choice between a 2 and a 10 hour flight, plus regular vs awkward streaming hours, guess what my choice would be :D

[@ddexter1000]

kurz gesagt: wer mehr zahlt ...

[@dominikaaeriar]

I'm usually a fan of European teams, whoever they are, just because I'm from Europe. But I don't watch RWF that much.

[@utopin-xt4qt]

TLDR shes a fan of all teams and got offered more money / didn't have to travel as far

[@TheSilverwing999]

Gonna give another perspective that isn't just aching of positivity and roses like the rest of the comments. It is kind of weird that you are, regardless of the explanation for it. The attitude that some people are trying to cultivate around the race is insanely weird sometimes. It's absolutely fine to be a huge fan of one team. It's absolutely fine to dislike the other team. Sports doesn't have to be a "we are all holding hands lalalala" type of situation, as long as you still treat the other teams right, I see no issue with only wanting something to do with one team. It's getting a bit weird that people aren't allowed to be 100% into one team anymore. This is more of a general observation, but i've just seen so many times where if you say go liquid, down with echo you are just completely murdered. This isn't even a bad thing to say, it's just rooting for your team

[@DeimosSK]

I love that you are casting for echo so much. They hove better show IMO

[@Fuckmedead]

Miss you casting for liquid but I’ve tuned in to echos stream when max have been offline and echo have done a great job with production this tier

[@dejafuuu]

So unbelievable people dedicate so much to wow.

[@Finiy]

Winners win, losers lose

[@jaymediaone]

liquid all the way but i like members of echo and preach

[@rebel6176]

dont care who wins at all. The echo production and stream is just way better, more enjoyable and better put together than Liquids. More people are watching silent Max then Liquid stream. Echo main stream is just the best place to watch the race.

[@zeil2ify]

There were rumors about Naguura and her agent and the world was shocked to find out that she can afford an agent.