Why I'm Finally Embracing Ploppable RICO in Cities Skylines | Clearwater County 60

[@MrTwarner]

Amazing how we're at the point where the character of these towns has completely changed within the series. Shorewood has gone from a sleepy factory town to a crowded suburb of VanBuren in no time

[@Antonio_Ramos16]

Seems like most city’s end up like that but it really gives the towns character and but I think that Phil should call the shore wood High School Otter Shore/Shorewood Otter High School since it’s shared the School would like to include both towns into there name and with the school being located in Shorewood the Mascot could be A Otter of Phil’s name choice

[@abhishekvchaudhari8181]

MAKE THE LINE!!!

[@abhishekvchaudhari8181]

In a new series of course

[@nathanwaldron4259]

If you are going to reduce the main road through shore wood to a 2 lane collector you need to bypass shore wood altogether. You should build a bypass road starting near the golf corse and running parallel to the rail facility on the side of the mountain and tie it into the highway with an interchange just past the one at the school.this would kee frieght traffic out of the town and help solve goods problems in the capital.

[@CitiesByDiana]

Plopping is the best. It's really great to use zoning to quickly expand and then come back to plop assets by hand when deep detailing each neighborhood. I'm glad you've been doing detailing episodes of CC revisiting previously completed areas. That really shows that cities evolve over time which is super cool and the way I usually like to build.

[@mr_frible3061]

You're going to have trucks clipping through your buildings to stock that whole foods. Watch the pretty red truck go straight through the lobby @ 6:00

[@jnewman83]

As a supply chain professional, it IS the height of realism for the planner to not take trucks into consideration. 😂

[@mr_frible3061]

@@jnewman83 Ah the old will build the restaurant here who cares if they have to park on the main drag to stock it trick.

[@nekto4658]

It's just the problem with spawn points, you can place them anywhere you want with the mod but you can't set the road, from which they drive to the spawn point

[@obhwg]

I think that works just as intended!

[@jasonarthurs3885]

nice catch

[@ChrisJohnson-of8fh]

Phil. Great job on the new school. One need I think you could incorporate is a childcare center in front of the parking lot. My high school had a daycare program for the community would be useful for the working families in Otter Lake at the aggregate mine and a child education program for the students. Also Bike path to the school?

[@stevej.8742]

another good spot for a childcare/daycare/CASA building would be near the YMCA to boost land value/give parents more places to drop off their kids, or have a spot kids can walk to for after school/summer activities

[@scottheighton5971]

Sending this to Phil, because I think this is an underrated suggestion that might otherwise slip through the cracks...

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Child care, in general, is something that I need to work into the build. So important and something that is treated so differently in so many communities!

[@Fieari]

More population! The government offices are disproportionately sucking up ALL the workers of the entire county unless you add realistic numbers of houses to the realistic number of office workers. This means you need tens of thousands more people! (Or just drop the government job numbers for the purposes of the simulation)

[@KingOfTresune]

He's made it clear that he has no plans on chanching the goverment buildings

[@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356]

Honestly that makes sense. It *is* a capital city after all. 100,000 people in the surrounding county is by no means unrealistic.

[@germandog123]

This is without a doubt my favorite cities series on KZbin. I am genuinely excited whenever a new one drops. Great job and can’t wait for next one.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Thank you!!

[@tungstentuckus7168]

I imagine that Shorewood would become a very wealthy suburban community to live in. It has space for larger homes, a quieter downtown, and is a short drive to Van Buren and Ashland

[@Lord_Foxy13]

I think you should add a pedestrian bridge I think it would be a unique thing for the community and as a non driver it would definitely be something that I would love, I know the US is very very much in love with their cars but considering there's literally a residential neighborhood right across the street it would probably be something that people in that neighborhood would love

[@TWOnly666]

Those new apartments you could put a ferry stop that sends it to Van Buren. And maybe a fancy bus stop near that gas station.

[@RI5E_AGAINST]

I just want to point out that I choked on my snack when you said “we’ll butt Whole Foods up against the parking”. 😂

[@esterlingo9664]

Me too! Oh man the little kid in me just sat and laughed.

[@wanleaf]

it really bother me when things are floating, it worse than trees going thru the buildings imo. 56:10 the fences are floating again, ugh

[@gluedtothesprue7762]

Butthole Foods is not a supermarket I ever want to go to!

[@danonck]

Yes! You finally resolved the waterfront in Shorewood. I understand the original reasoning behind the auto oriented commercial zoning, because of the proximity to the highway. But it made no sense whatsoever and made the entire city and the coastline in particular look terrible. Glad to see the changes in the right direction. I'm also so glad to finally see more of plopping in CWC. It's such a detailed project that it deserves your input as to what buildings are placed and where. Would gladly see you tear down more blocks. Last but not least - looking forward to the new highway project leading to Van Buuren, given you just cut them off from that side.

[@hcb1195]

Great video today. Something that is really bothering me is that the trees on Main Street are the vanilla trees that come with the base game. I suggest replacing them with some shade trees especially as the street has become a great place for pedestrians. Amazing work otherwise 👍

[@CityPlannerPlays]

I'll get those replaced!

[@theozadorozhnyy3795]

I'll be honest, I was waiting for a new video just since the last one dropped. Love your content! Watching from Lviv, Ukraine

[@rivers169]

Best wishes to you guys, stay safe.

[@timbowalk14]

Stay safe brother! Best wishes from Houston texas

[@KingOfTresune]

Hows the situation over there?

[@theozadorozhnyy3795]

@@KingOfTresune Weirdly, feels safe. Last air raid alarm in my city was on Independence Day (24 August), so a few weeks ago.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Thank you! I hope that you're doing okay and hanging in there!

[@tihomirrasperic]

6:50 you demolished half the block, but left the abandoned building that was next to the demolition intact and that abandoned building is causing problems for the entire block with the value of the land

[@daftwulli6145]

if there i enough demand they will take over that building

[@tihomirrasperic]

@@daftwulli6145 no, game not takeover abandon buildings, you must destroy and only then will build new building on empty field I use the automatic bulldozer mod, which demolishes such buildings automatically

[@edwardmiessner6502]

He's got abandonment issues in Shorewood too. There a whole block is abandoned!

[@daftwulli6145]

@@tihomirrasperic that is utter nonsene i recenty lost a whole neighborhood due to accidentlally deleting their electricity line, and not realizing it in time (huge city andi was busy elsewhere) gave them back electricity and the abandoned building where taken over in no time. You only need enough demand. Please actually know what you are talking about before commenting. The only reason stopping that is if YOU made the building historic, but that would be on you, since then they cannot demolish it and rebuild on their own.

[@scottheighton5971]

@@daftwulli6145100% correct.

[@nathanwaldron4259]

If you are going to reduce the main road through shore wood to a 2 lane collector you need to bypass shore wood altogether. You should build a bypass road starting near the golf corse and running parallel to the rail facility on the side of the mountain and tie it into the highway with an interchange just past the one at the school.this would kee frieght traffic out of the town and help solve goods problems in the capital.

[@EBarracuda]

Another great episode Phil! Hope you are not being too hard on yourself on you prior mistakes in your builds. Fighting the games systems to make good looking enviornments is a hard task.

[@soonerproud]

There's a setting in Advnaced Building Control that makes all plopped buildings historical so you don't have to do it manually every time you plop a building using Ploppable RICO. That way you don't have to worry your buildings will upgrade to something else if you forget to dezone before plopping.

[@RoefLaser]

And some complaints too, if I'm not wrong, land value and few services... Including zonning, de-zoning, type of zone...

[@snagletoothscott3729]

@@RoefLaser Use local settings to make everything Lv1. If you have a lot of infrastructure they'll level up rather quickly. If not, no complaints. Historical ensuresd they won't change

[@northeasturbanist]

I would highly recommend putting a hot key in find it for the random button for when you’re plopping buildings! It makes it work so much smoother.

[@chrisczech744]

like this tutorial: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKfGmpypqseKqqs

[@CityPlannerPlays]

I didn't know that was possible! Will look up how to do it!

[@basedraydn8868]

In the middle the awkward lot instead the fences forming a random pattern, you could use the fencing to create a small communal space with a gazebo, fire pit or just some benches and trees

[@Archimedes_]

An hour of Clearwater Country! What a birthday treat

[@bequemjoe]

Happy birthday!

[@timbowalk14]

Happy birthday 🎉

[@boojackanol]

Hey Phil, I noticed you didn't (probably forgot) to add a fence behind the football field, which is right next to the highway. btw, love the videos, keep up the great work!

[@ElDimitrius]

Well deserved mention for PlannerPete. I reached out in Discord to him and complimented him with all the good usefull and spot on comments he gives. Also great video. Good to go back to some area's and fine tune it. All changes make a ton of sense when and how you explain it. Maybe do some more of this stuff in a live stream. Would definitely watch it.

[@FelipeFV91]

The substation you plopped in Otter Lake would be right next to the dam; from an efficiency point of view, it’s best to elevate your voltage next to your generation due to loss on cables and transformer losses, especially if the utility would elevate the voltage level to a high voltage that would require a big substation such as the one you placed down. Awesome video as always. I work with renewable plants’ development and usually find myself on the other end of the cities’ urban planning committee stick 😂 So it’s nice to understand a little better how city ordinances and land conditioning are placed and thought through. And then there’s learning how to make better cities on C:S so win-win. Cheers from Brazil!

[@kevinmertel6108]

@ 59:52 Freight traffic is using the alley because they need to turn around to get to the commercial buildings. After you changed the road to one with a median, they can no longer turn across it to reach their destination. Example: Truck is traveling down the westbound lane, try to reach a building on the eastbound lane.

[@aniketgharpure94]

I think you should add lots of Parks in the area to increase the land value. That is mostly the problem and then you can have any houses you want and they will all be happy at any level. Just add lots of parks and such things, leisure activities. That will do good mostly. Just try it once.

[@jsaysyay]

watching all these has finally got me to play cities skylines on my own. and by inspired i mean "using a 1600 boston land map and creating the city but without landfills". city planner plays would cry but hey at least the pipes are always under the roads, however chaotic they are like irl boston

[@cdsequestrian5266]

Id love to see more detail work on some of the gardens in shorewood etc... some of those big homes with massive blank spaces next to them could do with a bit more life! Great video

[@LowerBigfoot]

The changes to the Whole Foods make it look like the one on W 6th St and N Lamar in Austin 👍

[@gdwiggy]

Was kinda thinking the same thing. I believe that’s the flagship store.

[@LHyoutube]

Wow, holy crap the resemblance is quite uncanny! Well spotted 👍

[@ejhoffman2625]

I love the improvements you've made, CPP, and that this episode is an hour long! The longer episodes are my favorite ones. The parking lots behind the restaurants which are along the main strip have the accessible parking away from the building, could you change that please? Take care and see you soon! Looking forward to VB 100!

[@alexmonk]

10:10 - i think that transformer should be closer to dam. 22:25 - some pedestrians walk from train station. Maybe make a bus route from train station - through all Shorewood or just to high school? New bus lines have too many buses. I think, you should make custom district themes - for different towns - and add building that fit town's character.

[@nathanwaldron4259]

The new lines definitely have too many buses

[@joeg451]

Regarding the same commercial buildings popping up, I think it's worth noting that CS will always spawn the largest building that will fit in a zoned area, so if you always make zones that are 4x4, you will only get the 4x4 buildings, which are probably only a small fraction of the theme you are using. it's worth trying to create a variety of lots or create a theme which is specifically for lots of a certain size

[@asiankaos3861]

Plopable Rico is so great. It gives you the ability to make very customized areas. I have a city that is almost all plopable it takes a while but it looks so much better.

[@cochemoche]

Seeing as you plan on using the existing baseball fields, my suggestion would've been to use the land directly across the highway from Lion's Park for Shorewood High School. There's a nearby arterial for road access, and you could either add a road or two or some paths to connect to the park (tunnels or bridges over/under the highway). That way they wouldn't even have to bus students to the fields, they can walk. See bird's eye view at 13:26

[@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356]

21:20. I was laughing my arse off watching this thinking about doing an authentic rural bus route in City Skylines. Placing down 10 single bus routes which stop at every single house they pass is just absurd to think about. 😂 Unrelated, but the new Realistic Population mod really does provide for a far more realistic amount of commercial.

[@danonck]

Yeah, I noticed Phil likes to overkill the transit stops at times. The buses wouldn't even switch to the 2nd gear between stops, lol

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Haha, yeah, that is funny to think about! My wife said that her bus actually went on their road just for them, then did a U-turn at the end of their street!

[@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356]

@@CityPlannerPlaysEspecially in places where property taxes are high, and pay for the schools, not bringing the bus to every house that wants it is not a popular move!

[@snagletoothscott3729]

34:17. A corner section like that, in most us cities, would either be a park/memorial or a small commercial, like a local corner bar or mom and pop grocer or a auto repair joint. If there was a house on it at all it might be some large classical building house that's become a local landmark or historical building. (like Evamentry's Voight House) As far as homes goes. I get everything set at 1x2, 2x3, 3x4 then have a few 3x3 and 4x4 for corner lots, with 4x4's also being used for a small wealthy gated community. I keep a 1 tile spacing between buildings in rural areas, with 2 tiles (sometimes 3) between in rural areas. The 1 tile spacing gives some side yard and room for fences or trees. Some areas can be fairly close, like the Chicago bungalow neighborhoods. Thats where RICO really pays off because I can push them a bit closer together. As for commercial, for any particular shopping area, I would have more then 2 high density "anchor" stores, with the rest being low density. You will be over run with traffic. High density being the obvious national or regional name brand supermarkets, multiplex theaters, and big box stores we all know. Even a downtown area same issue. the concept of the multi story inner city store really isn't a thing outside of a few flagship stores in NY, Chicago, London and Paris. That doesn't mean a classic Main Street type commercial store doesn't use up all2 or 3 floors, as they often use the second or third story for storage or internal offices, but they are only open to customers on the first floor. The "Are You Being Served" type stores with different departments on taking up whole floors isn't really a thing anymore. Again, massive traffic issues in a tight downtown area. Maybe 1 or 2 multistory anchors on opposite ends of the district if your going for a Magnificent Mile or Mall of America type downtown shopping district, but thats it. To be honest, high density shopping in the game is a bit overkill. just couple anchor stores here and there,maybe some kind of tourist trap area (like a casino or resort) but most players way over do it and there's where most of their traffic issues come from. When using Rico, make everything local and set everything to Lv 1. This makes things easier in the long run. It's too easy to get complacent and not thinking about the neighborhood level and plopping down a bunch of lv4/5's in an otherwise lv2/3 neighborhood, then moments later everything dies. Lv1 everything, historical on and they will level up to what the neighborhood is real quick.

[@coreygarrison4550]

With all the detailing would love to see a street level tour of that main street with the path in the middle.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Good idea!

[@AxHost]

Thank you for adding residential building back to the Wholefoods area!

[@echothedinosaur4922]

There should be a Shorewood Flood National Memorial across the street from the high school. Long time residents lost loved ones and ancestors and don't want that event to be forgotten to history. (Similar to Johnstown Flood National Memorial in PA)

[@cm01]

51:31 Wyoming has many 2-lane highways where the speed limit is 70mph (113km/h). they used to also have extremely cheap speeding tickets. In Idaho, you normally see 65 on 2-lane highways and 80 on divided highways.

[@Kevin-tt6ti]

Here in montana the 2 lanes are usually 70 and divided highways are 80, and i dont know if its still a thing but speeding tickets are 20 bucks and payable in cash to the highway patrol right there on the spot

[@Flipflapbar]

Hilarious flying car over the river at 40:53!! Love what youre doing with the rearranged blocks! Also, for the apartments behind Whole Foods, I think the bigger one needs to be flipped around. Theres a big flat wall facing the street and balconies facing the smaller building.

[@rellyrelishes]

Beautiful work. Loved the redevelopment and road diet along that main road. Gives it such a cozy feel

[@capedkat]

Incredible how different a neighborhood looks with reco. The only thing I'm not seeing are parks? Perhaps I have missed them. But something else I'd like to say; You've taught me how to make a parking in vanilla. Thank you for that. I never knew how to work with that tool untill then. Now I am making parks that fit in tiny spots. Not just for the boost, but I really try to make them look nice with a tree, a bench, small fauntain.. you know everything that's little and look good. I love that this can be done in vanilla.

[@UpandUp97]

Howdy! firstly wanted to say awesome vids and thanks for make them! Secondly and I'm not sure if it's been brought up before but would it be possible to build an amusement part? Oy maybe like a county fairgrounds?

[@CitiesByDiana]

27:46 is why i do zero commercial zoning these days and plop everything :P I'm so glad you've seen the light with plopping, especially for commercial areas.

[@notthefez3634]

Looking good! Shorewood is all grown up. One thing that strikes me about Shorewood and Van Buren is the high density blocking the views and amenity of the coast. In most cities where i have lived or visited, where there is a main road following the coastline, the foreshore is usually left as a public reserve. Higher density buildings are developed on the opposite side of the road. It feels like you've built walls of density that completely block views and access to the water except for those wealthy enough to live in those buildings. Everybody deserves a dog park, but even better if they can walk the dog along the foreshore!

[@noble610]

Seeing those fall trees really put into perspective how long I've been watching this series lol 😆

[@WilliamCannonWarren]

Shorewood High School deserves a swimming pool, maybe even a soccer field, while there's still tons of space around. Just in general, I would expect to see in mid-america more sport fields, athletic centers, race tracks, etc. Great video, glad to see you polishing things back up!

[@jabcmw1]

Fantastic video. However, the traffic situation made me hurt. Ever considering sending the city to Biffa and then analyzing his changes?

[@drjonritz]

I love that you keep the game running while you make the changes...but surprised you don't use an autobulldoze.

[@strykeyboi]

I LOVE your detailing-oriented videos! So relaxing, so satisfying.

[@spickerson]

By far my favourite series! Just re watched all the CWC vids and love seeing how it has grown. Can’t wait to see where this goes. Being on Lake Superior, a freight harbour would be a great add on and maybe have the state border Canada with a small customs area?

[@clevelandwardrick541]

When you moved the parking to the sidewalk in front of Whole Foods you've now created parking that doesn't look realistic. You have parking on the street directly behind the stalls. Another thing is that you also have the sidewalk for pedestrians behind the stalls as well. I've worked in Civil Engineering for nearly 18 years and these are things that you'd probably want to avoid, "for realism". Love your videos.

[@scottheighton5971]

He can/should remedy that by restricting parking in that spot using TMPE.

[@LazySmartCooking]

The triangle lot in Shorewood has a fence running through a home. And I believe the reason that you had the three homes not lining up properly with Move It was that you had the tree selected as well, which aligned everything together.

[@MegaStamandster]

Nice updates! Something to consider is to disable parking on the side that the Whole foods parking is so that it looks like accessible parking :)

[@BenAnderson48]

The Shorewood High school reminds me a lot of the high schools in my county. The school I went to was on a fairly major through highway, so there was no pedestrian facilities. The schools around here would generally prefer to bus students rather than have them walk anyways, as they're theoretically safer on a bus than on a street. I actually really love that build, the spot for it is great, the story and function for it is great, and the end result was great!

[@daveh3971]

4:14 "butthole foods" - City Planner Plays 2022

[@blueythebudgie7987]

Really like these episodes where you focus on a more suburban area. Nice to see it with a new personality

[@jase_allen]

34:21 "...and that's something you never want your urban planner to say. 'We're going to eliminate those people right there." That's not true at all, Phil. I'd **love** to hear the local city planner say that about a couple of my neighbors.

[@jeremikozakiewicz1100]

You should go through and adjust the speed limit on the country roads as well because the cims may just think it would be faster to drive on them right through the residential part of Shorewood which is not great to say the least. Absolutely loving your content, keep it up!

[@fireball6283]

UPS calls those vision triangles or anything that blocks your line of sight on a roadway a “billboard.” Yes, even trees and buildings are called billboards, don't ask me why. Inexperienced drivers really have a tough time with those, so good on you for considering that.

[@IncoherentSchizo]

4:14 Interesting way to string that sentence together CPP, very interesting...

[@Triliton]

I made a comment on the Discord channel. Its about slopes-hills next to the highway to cancel out noise. Keep it up!

[@UrbanPanic]

I think you'd run into issues removing the five shacks at the tip of the triangle at 40:30 that "drive you up the wall." That cluster looks similar to the "Bay View Puddler's Cottages" centered on 2508 S Superior St in Milwaukee. A group of small houses in a similar feeling neighborhood that was recently under consideration for historic status. I can't find a lot of articles saying what came from that push, as that temporary designation has probably passed. However, some painter mod to change the colors to a nice bold, diverse and friendly feel reminiscent of the shotgun houses in New Orleans could really help integrate those into a community while maintaining the history of the area. Suggesting replacing those buildings on a video so close to Labor Day would really bring out some quite organized community resistance due to their proximity to the site of the Bay View Rolling Mill Massacre. Those houses have become emblematic of the workers who gave up their lives to secure a better future for others. Even if there isn't official historic status, those houses getting knocked down is the kind of thing that would swiftly end several people's career in civics. That being said, some of the newer (I.E. Post WWI) housing in that area, even on that block, can be dealt with by burning through a bit of political clout and goodwill that one earned over a lifetime. A search for "Bay View Zielinski House" shows some of the controversy involved with that. And some of the cottages that aren't in that cluster of five, well, it would probably take the building being condemned for safety reasons. Which would also take some work, but... Also, a tiny bit of deliberate MoveIt Mulligan on how these cottages would have actually been constructed in the first place, that's just playing the game.

[@edenjumper5958]

Awesome episode 😎 been watching since before Shorewood was built. In love with all the updates! Perhaps we could see an investment in pedestrian connections and a multi-use trail system? Such as along the waterfront, or even some safe pathways to school infrastructure. Meanwhile keep up the good work!

[@chickenluverful]

Love the way the waterfront medium density housing turned out.

[@RandyJGJ]

In a community I lived near, there were several schools that boarder a Greenway and they intentionally created pathways to help kids safely walk to and from school. That area directly across the river would be perfect for that. There were stops and benches, pedestrian bridges and all.

[@Effedup]

Oh crap been watching you for a while but didn't know you lived in Madtown! Im in Sun Prairie and you aint kidding with home prices we moved out of 53718 last year and it was brutal finding something in our budget of 350k. Just insane that almost a half million is like the *low* end of detached single family housing in Dane County...changed a lot since I moved here 25 years ago.

[@HuntMcD1]

Great episode! Plopped housing just looks so much better.

[@xxxxii24iixxxx]

I think you should definitely add a pedestrian bridge over the highway for the highschool. Two out of the seven highschools in my city have pedestrian bridges that cross arterials. I think the size of this high school would absolutely justify a pedestrian bridge. I mean come on, its for the kids!

[@armanuki38911]

Totally agree! And there should be a pedestrian path between the upper and lower parts of otter lake.

[@KingOfTresune]

Not sure where you live, but I don't think I have ever seen a pedestrian bridge, espicialy not for a tiny high school

[@xxxxii24iixxxx]

@@KingOfTresune The high schools in my city that have them have a capacity of about 1500, which if I recall isn't too much more than the high school Phil placed

[@3dmaster205]

Citty Planner Plays: "I'm not going to put in sports fields at the new High School because there's a sports complex right nearby." Also Citty Planner Plays: *Puts in a track and field and football field and tennis courts* . . . Maybe replace them with an indoor swimming pool instead; I remember PE in swimming pool at my school; although it was the other way around; school had fields had to cycle into the town for the pool.

[@sammyquick793]

Consider naming the new high school in Shorewood to Lake-Shore High School, that way it gets in the names for Otter Lake and Shorewood. Maybe the mascot can even be the Otters!🦦

[@jrmcbabyface]

You should put picnic benches under the trees between the school and the parking lot in Shorewood. They are a staple for social gathering and relaxing between classes

[@navidson1290]

I started watching this channel several months ago and have just been going through the videos in order. This video seems like a turning point - from city builder to art project to just make everything look exactly "perfect" without really respecting the game mechanics or intended play. Verde Beach will always be best! If this is the future of Clearwater County this might be my stop to get off this train. ☹️ Mods are fine but this has become more mods than game.

[@royvandermarel3953]

A very un-American idea here, but I think the new High School could do with a small transit hub. Or at least a bus hub. Separate lines pinging back-and-forth to all communities, making sure the kids arrive on time, while connecting those same communities with just one transfer

[@one30am]

I feel that'd be pretty accurate and probably as close as you could get in-game. I went to a high school in a small-moderately sized town that served a good portion of a rural county and that's more like how it was. It wasn't public transit, but it was a lot of school bus routes that each went out around certain areas, turned around and came back* to the school. (*Although a lot of the more rural drivers parked the buses at their houses and just started their route each morning from far out)

[@royvandermarel3953]

@@one30am Even more reason to do so in Clearwater County! Though I didn't necessarily mean schoolbuses. Regular routes would work fine as well. But that may be my non-American brain thinking. My high school in the middle of Amsterdam barely had enough places to park for the teachers. Everyone just came in by bike (obviously) or public transit, with multiple buslines, a tramline and even trains and metro in walking distance

[@shadowofthenight7316]

Woah this is fun! Great presentation and gameplay!

[@Lewid93]

4:14 - I'll admit I wasn't entirely paying attention to the video and that phrase certainly caught me off guard. "Hang on, WHAT foods?!"

[@icantthinkofaname2176]

You can absolutely make a pedestrian connection between two roads. When the sidewalk textures merge together, you have a valid pedestrian connection, and you don't need to draw a path to make it connect.

[@casper8076]

33:33 a lot of counties in Kentucky have county water going to rural roads now. no more going to the water tower to fill up the tank on the back of the truck to fill up the tank behind the house! We just got it 2 years ago & our cabin is like 45 minutes west of E-town (middle of nowhere) & i think most rural counties supply running water now. but no sewers, cell service or internet lol.

[@bullmoose1134]

This is a great build. I've been with you all the way. It would be really nice to see a realistic live music venue. I propose two, one near a metro area like Red rocks or (keeping the WI vibe) Alpine Valley and one destination venue such as The Gorge Amphitheater in Washington. I think this would look awesome and really give the map some life.

[@pokergeniusordonkey6517]

With Costco on one side, and Van Buren traffic flowing past the golf course, I think the golf course people would buy a long thin strip of land for some luxury homes and a long thin park for some separation. They might also lobby for improvements to highway connections to Van Buren and a bypass road.

[@daquifa9981]

on the shore line you should take inspiration from this town in Michigan called New Buffalo I think it would look very nice and be an amazing fit

[@CB-lv6ct]

I missed the in n out when it popped up. As a SoCal guy, In n Out is very picky about where they build. They will only build in communities of 50,000+ population or places where the traffic would support it. They own the majority of the land that they build on because they buy land sometimes decades before they build in an area. They use their own construction crews. Not a criticism, just info about this SoCal staple. I love this series. Keep up the great work.

[@haztj1]

New development along the river front looks so much more neat and tidy, very nice 👌

[@watchthe1369]

Those odd shaped blocks, the Trangulars, could maybe take a park and raise property value? Maybe even one of those 2x2 swing parks you can find on the workshop?

[@Elessar_Telcontar18]

@4:14, haha you said but whole foods.

[@chap4691]

just saw ur comment on another yt comment section lmao tf

[@Elessar_Telcontar18]

@@chap4691 haha ya wierd and I dont comment too often either. You remember which video?

[@chap4691]

@@Elessar_Telcontar18 'The Most Detailed City I've Ever Built' one of the top liked comment lmaooo

[@DaleFrewaldt]

That green space at the 6:30 mark that gets trees to fill in? That'd make a good spot for a neighborhood dog park.

[@chazman4461]

So, your intro is right, planning does prevent that. But, that is every old town in USA. Drive around some old towns and that is what you see. Everything has to start somewhere.

[@AMan7595]

I find it very real when you say a quick way to make enemies is urbanizing a rural area. I told a friend who lives in cities once that city folk can move out here as long as they don't bring their city with them.

[@cheddulous]

“We’ll butt Whole Foods” Very poor choice of words

[@billsabob2010]

I came here just for this comment.

[@Jennoir89]

Same 😂 took me a while but I found one

[@benjaminlampp1993]

I also came to see who else noticed this!! I am an adult 😂

[@bequemjoe]

I don't know about anything else, but I'd like a mini episode or something else talking about buildings in CWC that'd be on the NRHP. I'm kind of obsessed with the NRHP at the moment. Maybe a channel in the discord with screenshots of the building in question, and a brief (or detailed) description. Edit: And to add to my previous paragraph, a historic village like Sauder Village in Ohio might be fun. Like a place designed to look 1800s, and used to educate children. Maybe some camping and county parks too. Edit again: A good team name for the Shorewood High School could be the Shorewood Lions, after Lion's Park

[@Salmoddi]

At 36:40 the line up object didn't work correctly because you had also selected the tree behind the middle house. You can see the tree moving when you are moving them, and it's highlighted green. I should also remember this tool when I'm building my city. Don't tell others, but you are my favorite C:S content creator, keep up the good work.

[@Salmoddi]

Or maybe that one of those duplicate houses had an tree included in it, seems unlikely.

[@Salmoddi]

At 41:20 there is something wrong with the configuration of the big intersection to the highway, for some reason many cars are turning to the side road and heading in to the intersection that way, instead of continuing the main road. Seem to be doing it still after side road and the main road tweaks. Lane arrows looked like they would have all the options to go there, but they still wanted to take the detour anyway. Now the side road probably has bigger speed limit.

[@WhoAmIl]

Hello city planner plays, while I was watching this episode in the living room and my mom decided to watch and she mentioned that at the Whole Foods there was no space between the buildings and the wholes food for an alley way for a port for the store to receive food deliveries

[@RedBlueYellowGreen]

I think it would be interesting to see a Michigan left implemented somewhere in the build just as a callback to this being a different version of the U.P, though I’m not that sure they are very common up there. But just a thought

[@GrantPerdue]

You should add dirt desire paths around the high school! those kids are DEFINITELY cutting across the grass whenever they can.

[@Finky86]

You left the street light from the original Whole Foods parking lot that you "moved for later" in the middle of the street. Would also like to see the intersections by the new high school widened a bit to further increase visibility for the young drivers and make it easier for the school buses to navigate those corners. The IHOP you placed on the much improved main drag in Shorewood is now sitting abut to the IHOP you already had in Shorewood with a large parking lot around it too. Maybe replace with a Texas Roadhouse or similar restaurant that would fit Shorewood's vibe?

[@nekto4658]

The main street needs some custom trees

[@KevinDR1987]

Something I keep noticing both in real life and even more so here is a complete lack of planning for delivery vehicles. In particular semi trucks. Whole foods has a dock and a half. Not just that but it's going to be very difficult just backing into the dock as well. I've noticed similar issues in previous episodes as well. Can't tell you how many times I've heard from customers "oh we get trucks in that dock all the time" my reply is always "yeah small trucks maybe but definitely no full sized semis hauling 53ft trailers". Don't know how people expect a 53ft trailer to fit with only 40ft of space in front of a dock. Much less the tractor pulling the trailer to fit as well or having space to maneuver

[@benabaxter]

Costco's gas station is pretty broken. Costco gas stations have limited hours and great prices, so they tend to have lines like Chick-fil-A or In-N-Out. Because of this, there's usually road access directly into the gas station, a large staging area for multiple lines of cars, and the outflow is usually directed straight to the rest of the parking lot.

[@nekto4658]

Have you ever felt nostalgic about the things that happened just a year ago? For some reason I feel that way when I hear the "Autumn haze" song

[@JesseArt]

30:17 So...have you been to La Crosse, WI? We moved up here from Indiana, and I was absolutely amazed to see amazingly tiny, literally 800 sq. ft. houses being listed for as much as $200K. And they're all packed together like sardines!! Hell, in Richmond, IN, you can get a 3000 sq. ft. Victorian era home for literally $60K. Even fully renovated, it's still easy to find housing under $100K. Wisconsin, in general, is just waaay too expensive. Sure, it's pretty here...but not THAT pretty. Kwik Trip does make things easier though. Yeah, those donuts are quite nice.