Why I Quit Amazon | Software Engineer

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Timeline
0:00 Opening
0:24 How long did you work for Amazon?
0:50 Why did you make such decision?
1:08 What are the perks at Amazon?
2:47 How is the company culture at Amazon?
4:50 Why were you not happy at Amazon?
6:02 What did you work on at Amazon?
6:23 Why didn't you enjoy it?
7:21 Have you tried talking to your manager about it?
9:04 Can't you change teams at Amazon?
9:40 Aren't stocks a reason to stay?
10:37 Why did it take more than a year to finally leave?
11:38 Do you have any regrets?
12:04 Closing
#QuittingAmazon #WhyIQuitAmazon #SoftwareEngineer
#AmazonCulture #QuitAmazon #pirateking
Welcome to Pirate King. I'm a Software Engineer at Microsoft, ex-Software Engineer at Amazon and ebay. Apart from my full-time job, I also provide consultation and career mentoring to prospective Software Engineers. Here, we talk about tips and tricks on how to land a successful career in tech. If you are interested, make sure to hit that subscribe button!
❗️ All opinions are my own and not my employer's.
Today I talk about the reasons why I decided to leave Amazon in a Q&A format
Filmed with iPhone SE 2
Music by Yeri
PIRATE KING
Software Engineer + Career Mentor in Tech

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Old Fart is the name of the Amazon internal site that shows your relative tenure rank. Come visit my blog for more! 👉piratekingdom.com

[@louisdurand4567]

I've been two years in, I'm more senior than 70% of the workforce (cf internal website you mentioned) it's crazy. Definitely agree with the culture, pressure and boring side of it.. (and the benefits 😅) Also, the culture is very formatting, in the sense that you cannot escape from it, you are molded to think, act and behave in the Amazon way. I hate it when managers comment on your actions by using the leadership principles to tell you how you should have done or behaved. The manager is always like "it's not me, but according to LP x, you should have done this or this". The promotion process is also a joke : you have to consistently perform at the next level before being promoted as such. So basically everyone in the company is getting paid for the level below their actual responsibilities.. (Well, you probably guessed it, I'm about to quit soon 😄) Cool vid otherwise 👍

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Agreed. Thanks for sharing :)

[@einarabelc5]

When you see a Tyrannical kingdom on the outside, is probably much much worse on the inside.

[@einarabelc5]

You essentially described my life as a Communist child.

[@michaelsmith6938]

Amazon provides best quality of products, while Microsoft can only have lazy employees like you to criticize other company and self promote the Microsoft without improvement

[@louisdurand4567]

@@michaelsmith6938 why so salty? 😄

[@goldenmilktea4992]

Thank you for being so candid! One thing I care about the most is a company's culture. It doesn't matter how much money I'm offered; if I'm not happy, I won't be a great employee. It's hard not wanting to work for Amazon seeing that their job posts are given more attention on job boards like LinkedIn. Now, I have to be more cautious about which companies I want to apply for.

[@jalabi99]

Imagine being the richest man in the world yet you're too cheap and mean-spirited to give the people who made you so rich anything more than free bananas.

[@ahmedbennacef5529]

at least it is not 🥜🥜

[@user-su4dd9kp7l]

They literally pay their interns 6 figure salaries. I’d rather them just pay me more than take money out of my paycheck for random ass benefits I don’t want or need

[@MartinoxxHD]

u know Bezos only owns 11% of Amazon, right?

[@chefxhyrule242]

I mean I feel like thousands of dollars feels pretty fair

[@timurjoro1995]

Hahahaha

[@jeffpal3840]

Thank you for being so honest about the reality.

[@rameshravikumar9515]

your Channel will blow up in no time , the content is too good , keep posting and good luck man !!

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Thanks! Really grateful for the support! XD

[@Byteflux]

I'm half Korean, was born in Korea and spent the first half of my life there so I have a reasonable understanding of your struggle from Korea, to Japan and America. I was born an American citizen so I had the advantage of not having to work extra hard for my right to live in the US, that's why I think your story is very inspiring. I'm 34 now and you at least seem quite a bit younger than me and yet you've achieved so much more by working at some big name companies like NCSoft, Amazon and Microsoft (two out of the Big Five!). Aside from obviously being a talented software engineer, you're also trilingual and fluent in English. I'm inspired by your story to try harder for myself and replicate even a fraction of your success!

[@djosearth3618]

@Byteflux Such kindly, honest and just lovely sentiments you've managed to craft into that reply, I' sure it had a positive effect on the storyteller's video creation confidence level. Being that you invoke much more feels (arguably by much o' bunches [banana-less bunches i certainly hope as Bananas are ironically the Amazon of 'fruits', chemical worth it's weight in carbon footprint, destroys everything it's touches with its monoculture Midas touch responsible for a reprehensible ever cheering of Teersteins filled full w tears falling like the future thunder they are from our spaceship, mother Earth [perhaps murder Earth's better fits this planetwide downfall. Sorry I'm just so shamefl i ever used that free month prmime, i never order AZ due eg:pollution+>habitat loss->specdegradation anyways your reply was as inspirational as the original video upload! Also so sorry that my own shame is dulling what as meant as a compliment to you both ♥♥

[@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique]

I quit 7 days ago. Best decision. Bunch of the people i hung out with at break and lunch, they left long ago. Just held on a bit longer. In my final days, all my coworkers looked dead inside. I couldn’t stay at that job anymore.

[@heathbar8015]

Was everyone burnt out? Overworked? Were you working remote when you quick? I graduated last year so have only known working remote due to covid and I think it's killing my motivation.

[@Winter_Wyvern1]

@@heathbar8015 working remotely should be motivational avoiding traffic jam when all people go to work at same hour, thus saving u free time...etc.

[@heathbar8015]

@@Winter_Wyvern1 I wish it was for me. I think the monotony is part of my issue. Same thing, different day. But that's on me to address and change

[@katherinezhang7635]

I am still here, but I joined in 2021 only, now got similar feeling with you, little confused, and thinking of next step , looking forward to having a conversation with your guidance if you don’t mind, highly appreciated

[@emilyau8023]

High burn out

[@anantgupta331]

Loved all the videos so far! Keep'em coming :)

[@leftyfourguns]

Nice to see the people in the offices and at home suffered as much as we did in the fulfillment centers. We really were a family!

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

xD

[@valerio8222]

I had the same situation in another company (that I left). I totally agree with you and you did well to leave. If you are not happy with your job and see that is going to be a toxic environment(at least for you) , there's no reason to stay and suffer. Cheers :)

[@jameshizon4861]

Enjoyed your discussion. Need to value more than the compensation but also personal growth and sanity.

[@Glorbo]

I currently work at Amazon at one of their fulfillment centers and it’s amazing how some things are the same at an FC as the software development offices such as worry about job security (and people disappearing sometimes), rankings and feelings of competitiveness rather than companionship, and people not being consistently happy with their job there

[@Glorbo]

I might add that this was a good insight for me since I was thinking of transferring internally at Amazon after getting to a confidence point with my programming (I just started a few months ago) but now it’s given me second thoughts and I should probably look a little more into other companies

[@bounsel]

@@Glorbo IMHO if you have the opportunity to make that switch at Amazon its worth a shot. It will look great on your resume and open more doors for you as you look at other companies.

[@Glorbo]

@@bounsel that’s what I will probably end up doing. At the very least to get my foot in the door. Just hearing that the offices have a similar environment made me realize I probably won’t want my whole career to be at Amazon lol

[@michaelgeng3151]

Kinda interesting hearing this but from the other perspective. I'm at Microsoft now but Amazon is offering me over 130k more USD per year than what I make at Microsoft and I feel like Microsoft is stagnating my career.

[@gFamWeb]

130k more?! Wow that's like, a whole salary more.

[@StonkeyKong]

@@gFamWeb yeah Microsoft is notorious for underpaying compared to other big tech companies, but they make up for it with work life balance.

[@mvzfx]

@@gFamWeb comes at a cost.

[@chefxhyrule242]

@@mvzfx the cost being more a lot more work?

[@_ashmason007]

@@StonkeyKong bruh ion bout you but Microsoft's work life balance ain't no better than other FAANGS except for Amazon maybe, they're the same

[@sunnyday12131]

Definitely true saying ”nobody wants to work under fear” especially when one works so hard already.

[@gherirupchandani4142]

You made right decision. Chill environment is mandatory to design systems better

[@marlagansukh5523]

I just came across your channel and I like how organized your videos are! Keep up the good job!

[@JamesLee-or1zi]

Flip side of things, internally transferred within Amazon (as a SWE as well) and found that the process was super smooth. Reached out to ~10 different teams and it was super interesting hearing about the different projects going on within Amazon and finding an initiative that more fit what I was looking for. (Was in a similar situation where I was working in full-stack but wanted a much more back-end role to better understand their problems). I did have to re-interview like you mentioned in the video, although the process was much more lax because there was already an understanding that the person passed 'the bar' previously. Although, that being said, I definitely agree that there's so many great companies out there, so there really isn't any 'wrong' answer, more just whatever works for each individual person!

[@sassyluke]

I agree with you , we are in same boat

[@fahmidamiah]

I think it's really important for me never to regret my career decisions, especially if I leave a company to pursue something else. I like to think of it as "my path", and this idea people have that you need to stay in a company for at least a year, else your resume won't look good, needs to just stop. No one, especially for their mental health and career stagnation, should put up with any company, team, environment that is detrimental to them in the long run. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

[@amardhillon314]

Sometimes it's not easy to be that honest as you have been in the video. I did VO interview with Amazon last year, but could not make it coz of the LP's they were expecting in my belief. I always wondered if the work culture is that brutal at Amazon and your experience made it all clear. Thanks for sharing :)

[@Apheleion]

I worked as a 3D artist at wayfair, PIPS were given to the highest performing artist who created a unique tool or material for 3D and once they were fired they were not allowed to access any of their work for their portfolio, I was also there when they randomly fired over 500 people for no reason.

[@atineshs]

Your videos are very helpful, I wish your channel grow much faster ❤

[@CarlosVillavicencio]

Really insightful, thank you for sharing. I also favor the career growth over anything else. Projects that makes me happy and finally benefits + compensation. This can be different for some people. Do you think it’s normal for SWE to rotate jobs so often?

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Yes. In fact, I highly encourage it to gain a diverse set of experiences and build your career

[@andrewbarstow8923]

It is normal, and encouraged to swap jobs every 1-2 years as a SWE. This is more important during the first half of your career than your second half.

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

@@andrewbarstow8923 i’d say 1 year is too short tho. At least 2 years

[@pablotapia8237]

@@PIRATEKINGDOM too much time

[@peterkim1867]

Bro your content is so damn good, keep it up!

[@saurabhav4202]

After Amazon conversations be like - "what they got you in for?" - perks lmao I did 9 months time, kudos to you, for getting out before getting institutionalized lol

[@shubhamgoel-web]

"at that time" says it all :) Life of a software engineer.

[@antic4mper819]

thanks for your insight, you've helped me tremendously with my decision

[@rollinginthedeep6900]

Not a software engineer but I really like watching your video because I think it gives insights to how a job can be technically great (good compensation, important work, well run company) but lack things that are important for you to feel fulfilled as a person. Thank you for your perspective!!!

[@peiyuansun9514]

Considering taking an offer from amazon, I can already see myself in a few months after watching your video. btw your videos are very entertaining, keep it up!

[@symbol767]

Thanks for this video, I was considering really rushing to join Amazon since I am in contact with some recruiters who want me to interview there, I decided I'll put that on hold and fully prepare on DS&Algos, System Design, and Object Oriented Design. Then I'll interview at other top companies along with Amazon, hopefully I land offers at better companies because Amazon is at the bottom of my list due to all the things I've heard.

[@erikcontreras6843]

Don’t believe all the bad hype… trust me. :)

[@symbol767]

@@erikcontreras6843 I'm still gonna apply to Amazon, but once I am confident in my DSA, still struggling currently sadly... But Amazon does seem like the easiest FAANG to get into, so I'd take the chance and just do it so its on my resume

[@reviews9216]

@@symbol767 Updatd? Any tips?

[@symbol767]

@@reviews9216 I passed Amazon, due to all these lame hiring freezes happening currently, I took the offer since its a great salary, I'll stick to my plan posted here where I'll stay at Amazon for a bit to have it on my resume then jump to another FAANG. Tips: Study and master Neetcodes 150 list if you're in the U.S and you'll be fine

[@_-6912]

Well put and thanks for clarity.

[@theantonlulz]

I did my internship at Amazon, and I truly hated it, and I couldn't exactly explain why until I left and started working at a unicorn. All those things that you said about not being able to grow as a programmer and the job being uninteresting is 100% true. I did not feel like any resources were invested in training me, I was expected to perform as a full-fledged Junior immediately, which as a student I wasn't. Really the issue was that it was a corporate environment. It was soul-crushing.

[@emilyau8023]

Good on you for not drinking the corporate kool-aid.

[@raysardon3762]

You did it right. No money can compensate being stuck and unhappy.

[@rdean150]

@@gotsu7343 Agreed. An unsatisfying, frustrating, overly stressful job can literally change someone's personality. You can carry that negativity around with you until it starts to impact your relationships with others outside of work. It can be detrimental to both mental and physical health. Finding a fulfilling career is incredibly important.

[@hungryallmylife]

You deserve more than 63.4k sub! Hope everything goes well

[@jerryliu2087]

"what is your fav color？“ where I subscribed instantly lol. Great video!

[@alfredoborroto7444]

Be proud, be happy. Do what is right for you and don't settle until you find what you are looking for. Just try to not burn any bridges after you cross them. I am still grateful for the worst job I ever had because it tough me lessons I would not have learned otherwise. Good luck in your future endeavors.

[@TheGearhead222]

Great video! I'm preparing to go to Amazon soon and am watching as many videos as possible-John in Texas

[@imshafay]

Finally, I am leaving too !. Getting in Managers that are absolute ****, working life balance isn't that great. The team is always static, even if you try to jump into switching you still get bad reviews. Either you are stuck with Operational tasks and internal tools (which are like nonworking environments). I am leaving because of the Internal tools too.

[@ren2674]

I am a CS new grad graduating in 2022. I really appreciate your videos. They are honest, insightful, and concise.

[@Eldriss.Studios]

The most important thing to me when I am looking for a job is doing meaninful and impacting work working on a product that I believe in.

[@Guest-gy9vp]

Very true, Thanks for posting that, I agree and I thought it's just me but I have many friends and they had the same situation, No life just working in stressful environment.

[@megr]

You did absolutely right. We come to this world to be happy, and our Job should be part of it.

[@samuelsam4672]

Great vídeo, great Channel! I dont know wheater u have many subscribers from Brazil or not. But you've got one more.

[@An-Engineered-Journey]

Wow the fact that Amazon makes you reinterview on-site leetcode style to change teams is insane, never seen that at any other company

[@Loubna08]

Great video love it ❤ Please one question what does A/B testing stand for?

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

It's not an acronym. It's a testing methodology where we compare samples A and B together to see the difference in results they produce.

[@Loubna08]

@@PIRATEKINGDOM thanks 😊🙏

[@1084kmp]

Thank you for this honest opinion. Really helpful

[@gold9994]

One to say, the best place to look for jobs is in startups. I have enough money for the rest of my life, about 10 million dollars total (2 houses inherited from my parents, wasn't that expensive back then, but the house prices are crazy these days, mutual funds, stocks, 1 apartment in hangzhou where i'm living in right now). I've done securng my future family and I'm working as a senior software engineer at a startup. I hope that it would grow big, and major companies won't overtake it, but yes.

[@amominah]

Thank you for your educating people.

[@petar55555]

I am an SDM at Amazon for 4.5 years now with the same team and everyday I learn something new. The average time for engineers with me is about 3.5 years and the job satisfaction is quite good on the anonymous surveys. I think you got a bit of a bad luck with your team ownership and culture. It's not the same in every org. I do see allot of care and interest in having the engineers engaged, motivated and happy with what they do. Before I joined I did hear some stairs about people crying in their desk, but I have never seen that. We have team events every 2 weeks and an offsite every quarter sponsored by Amazon. But I see you took the right decision, being happy with what you do and have passion for that is what's going to make your time fly. I do agree the benefits are not great, maybe just average but nowhere compared to top companies, but the stock went 4x since I joined, so I can't complaint there. Thanks for sharing your experience

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Thanks for sharing ur experience too. Yea, I simply think that I was unlucky with my team; it all depends case by case. I wish I had a manager like u :)

[@kyawzazaw18]

I do have a question for one thing you listed as positive. Couldn't you have just bought the stock as an outsider and have it quadrupled?

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

@@kyawzazaw18 yea but that’s not a benefit; u r simply investing with ur own money

[@kyawzazaw18]

@@PIRATEKINGDOM I agree. My point is that the comment listed 4x stocks as one of the factors that is retaining them. Couldn't they have done the same as an outsider without the need to be employed by Amazon (I do understand backloaded vesting/RSU vesting)

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

@@kyawzazaw18 yes, but it’s hard to predict a stock will appreciate 4x.

[@rahulseetharaman4525]

Hey man, nice videos Could you please make some videos on how to interview for ML Engineer roles in the US ? Thanks.

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

I’m not a ML engineer myself nor know much about that field. I don’t think I can :(

[@wenbot1844]

you made the right decision !

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Thanks! Glad I got out early XD

[@hrithikjain3663]

Nice man same for charted accountant people really stressing 🥺

[@BryantCabrera]

Hi, thank you for the video! I am at Amazon now as an SDE, in my third month and I already know I want to leave. Do you have any advice for me? Thank you in advance for your help!

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

LEETCODE!! Or try to find a team that fits you internally. But as I have, if you have to prepare interviews for internal transfers anyways, I’d just.. try externals first :p

[@tungvu4339]

Really insightful video

[@aqua123670]

thanks for sharing man

[@misaac179]

I’ve just passed 6 years at Amazon. And I’m ready to leave because I’m unhappy with the lack of opportunities because everything is a stretch role and the amount of work people handle is not what they should be getting paid at.

[@leavesoflemons5374]

thanks for the real insights about AMZ...

[@abhishekbirhade5917]

I agree, dealing with html css as a Software Engineer is stupid. I used to enjoy doing it on my own, but in code reviews differences of opinion have no objective weight are generally centered around, "I don't like this". Backend is more objective, is it fast? does it scale well? Is the code robust?

[@CristianUscata]

I like your video brother, a have a question, Is Microsoft using java for applications?

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Thanks! And no it's mostly C#

[@djdenton6153]

This is very interesting to me because I’m trying to break into my first software developer role ideally with their AWS team . I was able to secure a management offer and hope to transition that way , but of course you are aware of the things Amazon is known for . What’s drawn me is the possibility of high wage atp and movement upward within a year . I studied economics and comp science . The former being the one I am about to finish . Ideally though before I have to accept this role I hope to look for data science or something as I prepare to actually become an engineer. Do you think other Amazon teams would offer a better experience?

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Hmmm I can’t really say for sure as each org is different and it all depends on the team your supervisor the people u meet, etc. but I do know that AWS is the most demanding org of all. Whether the work the team u work for is a right fit for u is unfortunately something u’d have to find out after u join

[@xDamasciox]

I'm Mid level and in my current team we have a UI designer, and It's truly a relief I don't have to come up with any bland looking layout that just will do as the visual of some rendered component that I'd be working on. Now I merely have to implement some neat layout designs and just concern myself with the responsive web design aspect, which is often a big headache, but at least I have guidelines to work with. I told them I could learn Go to lend a hand to the BE staff which is currently a One Man Army and is pretty much overwhelmed dealing with bugs. The management was pretty enthusiastic with the idea and provide me some learning resources on Udemy. So yeh, I believe there's plenty room for me to keep growing as a SWE at my current workplace. And the pay is decent from where I live .

[@dane841]

Well that is where I started heading towards in my early career...then it took a turn ....SKREECH..!!! Now that I am of retirement age ..I always wondered what it is like now. Most of my friends don't want to discuss it because they think it might come back on them via post(not via me it is just there general rule) somewhere else so thanks for the inside...wish you the best.....

[@creativexface]

Their hiring interview process was hell. 7 series of interviews and your answers should be different with each interviewer. I gave up on 5th interviewer, i wished to stop, it was draining already. Not from US.

[@RetardskillMe]

Imagine going through that kind of interview and grinding Leetcode, just to do front-end... That is kind of sad...

[@TrungPham-ui6jm]

I think, It's very rare that someone can tell that truth the way you did... Respect though.

[@mohit4902]

I have a friend that is exactly going through what you are going through - will monitor him to see if he shows a similar trend

[@od2437]

I’m a BA and I work with our front end developers all the time, every time I had to ask them to make some small cosmetic changes I felt bad, like changing the colors, the alignment, the icon size etc. But the look matters though, just the annoying things front end developers have to deal with

[@dany19991]

I understand the toxic culter problem and the pips, seen it happen to a few friends who were technically savy but spoke up against corporatism bs ( other collegues getting promoted, not because of their technical skill but because the include bs words like "impact, quality, customer etc" in every mail and whenver they opened their mouth) , but the other are mostly generational issues. people want to be tought whatever is cool on the market then so they can switch jobs easily , and no work on the tasks they were hired for and that were presented to them in the interview.

[@NewzBanger]

Is it true that there have been a lot of improvements the past few years?

[@vincent3542]

you really deserve a much more subscribers than this, love from indonesian !!

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Thank you!!

[@AnkitJain-ln7gx]

Quite insightful

[@emilyau8023]

Wow thank you for giving the perspective outside of the glamorization of it. I'm glad I made a good choice staying away from it and choosing a company that benefits the community.

[@PDivision1]

Didn't think it was so hard to change project in amazon. Just curious did you know that you'd be messing with HTML when you got the offer?

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

I did but I didnt know I wouldnt be able to touch backend at all

[@mdlwlmdd2dwd30]

I feel the same way. I hired as sde but getting only FE work. FE work is interesting but my true cs study coming with doing magic in backend

[@ironmenace]

I work 10x4 I hate work but hey i got my medical accommodation To last I have my medication And trust me a lot of wear and tear on equipment If I had knowledge I would examine my work area look at the problems and address it to my maintenance team Overall the goal for workers beside Tech workers is hitting rates and competitive against other Amazon warehouse I’ve seen tampering and cyber attacks and trust me it hard to keep a operation afloat

[@yussefoh]

I hear it is bad to "job hop" often and reflects poorly when applying. Can you give me your 2 cents on this topic? Did you find any repercussions from changing jobs so much?

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Not at all but dont hop in less than a year often. I’d say hopping every two or three years or so is okay.

[@yussefoh]

@@PIRATEKINGDOM Wow, thank you very much for the helpful insight! I watched a few of your vids and I have to say I found them extremely motivating and helpful. Thank you for all the information and for responding!

[@yeriseok5711]

1 dislike is AMAZON

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

So true...

[@lakshyabang4254]

Man with some ease you said it. For most people Amazon is the dream company 🤣🤣🤣

[@tarunpantindia]

Best honest insight 👍👍

[@monkeybuttgolfer]

I would leave Amazon, but my LC skills suck. Time to practice.

[@adityapatel9735]

when you said FML for not getting free food perk, it hit my heart.

[@jackwinford4400]

this was more highly anticipated than endgame

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Haha thanks!

[@maxxpellowski2916]

Thanks for another great video, on the one hand you made some excellent points on wanting to leave... on the other hand.... free bananas. I don't know man, that's a tough one. LOL. Thanks for the heads up.

[@millermeares6676]

Amazon is wildly manager dependent - if you get a good manager, Amazon can be an awesome place to work free of the “oppressive” reputation.

[@vincentmacharia]

Great content man, i love your vids, kindly fix the mic

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Working on it!

[@treyshaffer]

Leaving Amazon to go to Google now, pretty excited for the change in work

[@johnanih56]

Well, calculated steps. How many hours do you spend per day for leetcode? How many questions do you solve per day?

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

I tried to solve at least 5 per day then and whenever I can

[@jastat]

In my case I left due to the awful compensation - working in the UK so compensation for software engineers is already very poor relative to the USA

[@ozobianwadibia]

What is the internal website @3.52 you used to check your ranking in Amazon? Is it easily accessible to any internal employee?

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

It might only be accessible by FTEs although I’m not entirely sure. All you needed was to put the url in your browser while connected to Amazon intranet. I’m trying to find out what it was although I can’t recall it on top of my head; it’s been more than 3 years :p

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Think I found it. It’s called Old Fart!?

[@ozobianwadibia]

@@PIRATEKINGDOM Thanks.

[@louisdurand4567]

Yep, oldfart it is 👍

[@Berkeli]

I think the main issue is that a lot of people fantasize about working for faang and set their expectations too high. There's also a factor of "well I did it(got a dream job), now what?"

[@AmitkumarYadav-nx8uw]

great video dude :D

[@panama-canada]

7:51 - so true!

[@patricekipps3564]

Thank was thinking of joining as an intern but decided to back down from it

[@seanyunt]

I think the perks (or lack of) are a generational thing. I routinely meet software engineers aged 30 or younger who say they aren't motivated by compensation, but also say they expect a lot of perks such as free food, pet insurance, etc. etc. Full disclosure, I'm 45 and love free food, but I'd brown bag every day for a $50K raise. These are obviously very intelligent people. They must understand if they were paid a high base salary they could indulge in whatever lifestyle upgrades the "perks" might have covered.

[@RexZShadow]

The problem is more when you compare Amazon with other company of equal tier the perk sucks. Yes if you getting 50k raise fuck free food lol. But if Google, Microsoft and other people pay the same but also include way better perks then ya Amazon does pale compare to their peers.

[@StonkeyKong]

@@RexZShadow Microsoft pays significantly lower than FAANG. For a Sr position at MSFT I was making almost $100k less than as a mid-level engineer at Amazon / Google.

[@DriveandThrive]

Money can't buy happiness. Also...you can buy stock yourself if you want. Microsoft was definitely a good lateral move.

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

True true!

[@oneandonlyflow]

Hey dude! I'm also an international in the US. Could you maybe make a vid on tips for internationals trying to work in the US as a SWE? Things like work visas, or perhaps a story of how you got the opportunity to come to the US and work. Thanks!!

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

Sure thing! Will do at some point!

[@oneandonlyflow]

@@PIRATEKINGDOM awesome

[@nhanle376]

thanks for your sharing! I like the info: Why's the color green? - Haha.

[@yt.arunthakur]

you did right career stagnation is worst.

[@alanjin3756]

Actually, Microsoft China provide meal allowance for all employees which could be counted as free meal

[@whitepanda5461]

What was the internal rank tool called? Currently working there right now

[@PIRATEKINGDOM]

oldfart

[@averageatbest8146]

If money isn't a deciding factor then I think u made the right choice.