Why I Still LOVE My Nikon Z6 Five Years Later

[@J5388T]

I agree, the Z6/ Z6-2 are still superb camera's and I continue to use one on most days!

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Me too!

[@MattIrwinPhotography]

Great video Ray, I too still have my 2x Z6 (and Z6 II) and one of my Z6's is set up as my permanent green screen camera, and being happily used today, and working exactly as you have described. Considering the image quality, and the cost they are today, for someone wanting a great start into 4K recording, or beautiful 24MP images, you can't go wrong. And of course there is endless Z lenses both first and third party, along with adapted options from F mount, E mount, L mount and so many more !!! Cheers Ray thanks again.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

You said it, Matt. Again, using my 2 Z6s together, I was gobsmacked by the quality of the 8-bit video that comes out of these little gems. The photo files are similarly beautiful. I will hang onto at least one of them. One of the best cameras I've ever owned. Anyone who doesn't appreciate the Z6 isn't giving fair due.

[@JukeBoxNuke]

Almost bought a Z6iii for weddings, but decided to stick with my current Z6 since I do so few weddings I can’t really justify the purchase. Besides the AF and some minor quirks of a first gen product, it’s a very capable camera especially in image quality and high ISO.

[@ConfusedAstroStation-mb2ch]

love my Z6! first Nikon mirrorless. Almost switched to Sony (when it's hyper hyped) and Canon R5/R6. Tried Z6 and kept me in the Nikon fold and not jump ship. I have Z9 with 135 plena and S lenses (2.8 S zooms) and I still love using my Z6 with it. Actually, can't even tell which one is shot in any of my images between Z6 and Z9.

[@jbtubman]

So many other videos are about making us unhappy with anything that isn't the latest and greatest; this is a refreshing change. Tangentially related to the topic of switching to mirrorless: the term "mirrorless camera" has a sort of "horseless carriage" vibe to it. I wish we could think of a better term.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

haha! How about "un-mirrored." Sounds PC. 😀

[@tc6912]

I have a Z6ii and a Z8. There is still something about the image quality of the Z6ii that I like. If you don't need the quick autofocus and can fill the frame, the Z6ii is a fantastic camera.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Agreed!

[@MainlightDrone]

I'm still using my Canon 5D3 that came out in 2012 and it's still a great camera, but I don't make a living with it like you. I tried to get the shutter count and found it impossible to get. Thanks, Canon. I appreciate how you always reason out your decisions and choices, Ray. Your material is valuable no matter which brand you own.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Cheers, Christian! That's weird about the shutter count. I wonder is that some Canon mechanism that blocks analysis?

[@bobmorse5896]

My trusty Z6 is still my newest Nikon, although I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of the Z6III. I use a mix of Z series lenses with older Nikon glass; I have no issues at all with using the older glass with the adapter. I'm almost exclusively a stills shooter, just experimenting with video recently. I always enjoy your thoughts on all matters photographic.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Thanks Bob. Yes, I also used my F-mounts without complaint. I got free FTZs with both my Z6 purchases and still make use of them, though I've traded most of my F-mount lenses.

[@redletterdayspnw]

I recently got the Z6III to use as my A Cam, but I still use three Z6 cameras with Ninja V external recorders for my B, C, and D Cams and they hold up just fine in professional settings. Main thing is LEARN HOW TO GET THE MOST OUT OF WHAT YOU HAVE. Another great video, Sir 🫡

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Thanks! Absolutely, all the Z6s are capable of professional-grade video recording if used correctly. I'm working on a video about that.

[@craigmckernan4056]

After picking up my first Z series camera, the Z6 camera last month, I'm pleased to see a video like this which is hard to disagree with anything you stated. The Z6 right now is still the best value in the line-up of Z bodies.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Nice to hear from a new owner of the Z6. Agreed!

[@martyseppala3757]

I use my Z6-2 to photograph real estate with the Z14-30, what a great combo. Thanks Ray

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Cheers!

[@thomasasannes]

Thanks for the video! Great production, great sound, great video quality and nicely scripted. Keep up the good work!

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Much appreciated!

[@bobpollack6894]

Ray, interesting video and a good point about. The Z6, “If it is not broke don’t fix it.”Right now I am moving over to a Z6II I am also looking for a new body later with a Z7II of a ZF. I have not yet made up my mind yet. The Z6 is more than a useful camera, to get started on.

[@peterrussell663]

Ray, like you I bought two Z6 bodies the day they were announced and have never regretted it, nor been tempted to trade up to the Z6II. I subsequently added a Z9 and am about the get a second one, but, and this is important, I still regularly use my Z6 bodies for either B roll video or for stills where I don’t want to lug a heavy Z9 body around, or as an adjunct to my Z9. They’re still very good, competent capable cameras that would perhaps benefit from another firmware update, although that’s relatively insignificant for the majority of second line everyday uses. As you rightly point out, lenses are a much more valuable asset and you’d have to be a nerdish pixel-peeper to distinguish between the final files delivered to a client from any of the full frame Z generation. I’ve never had a client even ask what the shots were taken on, never mind poke around the metadata to check! Long live the ‘old’ Z6!

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Hi Peter! Yep. I'll keep one of these "classics" for good.

[@davewalker5706]

Had my Z6 for almost 4 years, has been fantastic, never letting me down and still love it. It is my primary travel/street/low light camera while my Z8 is my 'everything else' camera.A Z6iii is imminent I think so I may get one next year, relegating the Z6 to a back up role, maybe.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Great to hear!

[@nethbt]

I have DSLRs (D7k, D7100,D610,D750) and Mirrorless (ZF,Z6ii,Z6iii) ... The key is understanding the limitations of the camera you currently have...I still use DSLR because it's fun and nostalgic

[@SimonBurnCreative]

It's good to see you talking about the Z6, it's a very underrated camera. I still use mine as my main workhorse for client shoots, it's fantastic. And although only 8-bit, the video quality is superb. 👍

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Thanks for adding to the conversation, Simon -- another voice from a pro perspective, happily using the Z6.

[@tonyalderton9885]

Interesting thoughts on the Z6 Raymond, I concur. I traded my Z6 recently in anticipation of the Z6III. However, along with my Z8, I intend keeping my Z6II because as you rightly commented, the low light performance is excellent. I also like the smaller and lighter body of the Z6II. I agree, it's still a great little camera and I definitely intend keeping mine for the foreseeable future.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Thanks for adding you experience, Tony.

[@john-toregundersen2655]

Great video, and perspective on things. i have a question. Is there any issues with dust on the sensor, when changing the glass on the Z6?

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

The Z6 is no different to any other mirrorless camera in that regard, except for those (like the Z8, Z9) with a dedicated sensor guard (which does not eliminate the need for best practices when changing lenses).

[@john-toregundersen2655]

@@RaymondParkerPhoto Ok. Thanks for the answer. Good!

[@obedbrinkman]

I sold my Z6 for the Zf, but never had much issues with it! very capable indeed

[@kl787]

Z6 is great but two things pushed me to use Z30 more when traveling… weight and the more important autofocus selection. The Z30 has better autofocus interface similar to Z6ii but with only one Expeed6 processor (same as Z6) and performs great. Like the ability to quickly switch between face/eye or animal or none unlike the Z6 interface where I have to use menu to do it which really slows me down. Z30 also lets me use wide-area with face/eye or animal on top of auto-area, extremely useful when doing travel photography. I’m sure Z6 can handle the new features as Nikon have demonstrated with the Z30, but probably didn’t release such firmware update because of Z7 which may have problems supporting such features due to 46MP sensor. I hope more Z6 owner make noise and push Nikon to make the autofocus update available to the Z6. Nikon, please?

[@darenaubiephotography8570]

I never owned a Z6 but have a Z7 that I still use on a regular basis. I suspect because I had a DF that I never got one. I now also have a Z9 and ZF. Might try the Z6iii if it ever comes out. I am thinking it will be similar to the ZF. So many great tools and not enough time (or money LOL).

[@obedbrinkman]

I sold mine for the Zf, but never had much issues with the Z6, very capable indeed!

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

I also bought the Zf. One of my Z6s will get traded soon, but I'll hang on to the second.

[@just_A_Hack]

Great Video! I always look forward to your yearly updates. I can't believe how cheap you can grab the z6. It blows my mind really. Quick question, but what brand of glasses are you wearing? I love them

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Glad you like them (video and glasses)! The glasses, are Seraphin. Optometrist talked me into them. Glad I relented ... though most expensive frames I've ever bought!

[@just_A_Hack]

@@RaymondParkerPhoto I thought I recognized that style! I have the same brand and, like you, was a little hesitant based on the price. Funny though, considering if it is camera gear, I don't have those same thoughts as much lol. If it helps, I have had 2 pairs that I swap on and off with for over 10 years and they still look brand new. My local optometrist doesn't carry them anymore which is a real bummer considering they are my favorite glasses I have ever worn. Hope you have a great rest of the week and weekend!

[@georgedavall9449]

Cringe

[@dontipton4570]

Picked up a used Z6 last year with the kit 24-70 f4. Very nice camera and the ibis is really handy. I’ll keep my dslr for action shooting but the Z6 handles everything else.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

It's a great combination for sure. Hope you're enjoying it.

[@peturingibache9462]

Great video

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@1bozina]

There is nothing wrong with the Z6... even though it's several years old, I still use the 2 I own regularly for portraits, events, real estate, and street work. Other than resolution, I appreciate the output of the sensor in that camera more than the output I get from my Z7... As you mentioned, the Z6 also does so well in low light. Since I have a pair of them and I'm waiting to see if Nikon will drop a Z6iii or not, I'm not sure what I might do next. The thing I personally miss on the original Z6 is a vertical grip with a shutter release (even though I didn't miss it enough to jump to the Z6ii). If no Z6iii appears, then I'll likely trade the Z7 along with some Fuji gear and F Mount stuff and go for the Z8 or Z9. (I'm not a fan of that grip they made for the Z8 either.) P.S. Great channel and content!

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Thanks! Can't go wrong with Z8 or Z9.

[@NikolajFreiesleben]

IMO its the sensor that is so beautiful on the Z6 and the megabyte is all you need and no more.

[@Vemovemo1]

Get mine used some years ago at usd 700, bargain because was like new, and still using it for video and photography, love it. If i can i will update to z6iii, but will keep my beloved z6. Amazing camera, made in Japan 😁

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Totally agree!

[@fatherdanmclaughlinosa3215]

Raymond, Thank you your considered appraisal of the Nikon Z 6 and other Zed cameras and why you like the each one in the way you use them. I have a Z 6 II since 2004 for Church photography. It is the camera I was waiting for because I did not need a flash unit and the EVF gives accurate feedback while taking photographs. The eye detection rate is on par with other camera brands; I capture most of what I want. I like using the silent shutter release allowing me to be nearly invisible. I take many photos for each scene - especially for low light scenes - and this guarantees I have a keeper in the bunch. I am planning to purchase a Z 6 III for even better lowlight performance and the new processor. I will even start taking short video clips at the Church events. I started with a D80 and every upgrade since has made me glad I did so. I started purchasing S series lenses and will never settle for less because of the better color rendition and subject separation. Recently, I purchased a Nikkor Z 50 mm 1.8 S lens and look forward to learning how to use it. I was amused when I saw a video by a wedding photographer who said she uses a Nikkor Z 50 mm 1.8 S for the whole day. She was so good using her feet and her beautiful compositions made it difficult to tell she did not swap lenses. You mentioned you like the color rendition of Nikon and is not said often enough but other reviewers. Some reviewers describe the color of other brands as lifeless and without the subtle changes that give a photo a sense of depth and movement. Dan

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Cheers, Dan. Thanks for adding your experience.

[@paulakotula3417]

Thank you for your video! I shoot portraits with the d750 and really wanting to move up to mirrorless- What number of actuations would stay away from as far as purchasing a used z6?

[@fatherdanmclaughlinosa3215]

@@paulakotula3417 Paula, You can feel confident to buy a used mirrorless camera online from KEH B&H in NY or at a reputable local camera store. They give ratings and often have a return policy if you are not satisfied. Recall that most photographers are careful with their equipment. I am going to sell my older equipment to KEH. I will keep my D750 because it is a good camera to use as a backup or if I am doing street photography. I did purchase the Z6 III and at my age and the camera impoverishments it will be the last camera I will purchase ( I hope, LOL) Dan

[@gary7851]

I love mine and the same 24 70 F2.8 prime lens you have 😄

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

I've hung on to the F-mount 24-70 f/2.8. It's a good zoom lens, even though the Z-mount is superior. I'll pick up the latter one of these days.

[@Sedricbphotography]

Newer Nikon cameras still shoot 4k, raw photos, and Raw video. If that is still the same with the newer cameras and my Z6 works, I will continue to use it.

[@sunking9050]

I love my Z6 and continue using it for nature photography. I’m upgrading soon to a Z8 but will defo be keeping my Z6. How do I check the shutter actuation count ?

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Definitely a keeper. There are a number of sites to check shutter count, by uploading a file, e.g. www.camerashuttercount.com

[@sunking9050]

@@RaymondParkerPhoto thx Raymond. I have a shutter count of 33,415 that is lower than expected 😀

[@jpdj2715]

With a background in professional photography and photography school, there's a lot of real medium format as well as large format in there. "Digital" did not seem serious for a long time. Trying a 2MP compact and then a 12MP compact that both could not save raw (it's in there but cannot be brought out), I decided at one point that I would buy into a DSLR as soon as there was (a) a full frame sensor and (b) it did 24MP. In and before 1980, a standard resolution for film and very good lenses was 100 LinePairs per millimetre (LP/mm) where the best lenses did (significantly) better in the center of the frame but significantly less in the corners. If we average this at 100 LP/mm, assume that each pair needs 2 photosites, then we need 34.6MP effective resolution in a sensor. As we do not have the empty space that film has between grains, and as we have software that can scale up, or even sample up, (by inventing more pixels than are in the 100% file), the 24MP is a sweet spot. I started to see the limitation of my older professional primes and bought 1.4G primes. These are very sharp, indeed. But I had issues with that. Some of them my recurring rant since I bought my first Nikon (1975, an F2). - The F mount lenses had significant chromatic aberration and the faster lenses had more of that (at full open aperture0. - F mount lenses had subtly but easily noticeably visible to me tint differences - The sharper and shallower Depth of Field 1.4G lenses did not facilitate single point AF ++ recompose as fast alternative to old manual focus, when fully opened, because of the shallow DoF. Phase One address the latter in their real medium format camera with a special sensor that measures camera rotation and adjusts focus (distance setting) to that. - While this was more felt in "digital"with pixel pepping lurking all the time, the biggest rant still had to come. The 24MP Nikon has an OLPF and that filter has some distance from the sensor, which opens up to total reflection of colour cast across the entire frame. And I suffered from that. So when Nikon was rumoured to come up with a mirrorless system with new lens designs, I started to broadcast to Nikon and fluencers that I wanted (a) less or zero chromatic aberration more than more resolution, (b) zero tint differences (could be a simple lens-specific ICC profile), (c) be freed from OLPF total reflection, (d) have an alternative to Phase One's motion sensor that works well but is dumb. As to (c) the solution became to simply migrate to a full-frame Nikon with higher resolution than 36MP as these never have an OLPF. So 45MP became the choice. As to (a) and (b) the Z lenses really answered my prayers. Which left me hanging with (d). I migrated to the Z 7 and invested into the "S" primes. Wow, these are great. Call me arrogant, but I look down on photographers shooting weddings and talking about background blur ("bokeh" is plain everyday common Japanese for "blur") of their lenses. What do you do when a bride does not look like a supermodel in your shots and complains about that? Say, but look at how beautiful the background blur is? Bokeh is not the decisive factor in getting your images in the National (Portrait) gallery or the Smithsonian or Museum of [...] Art. The "S" class lenses answer my lens-dependent prayers and are great. Initially, raw processing in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) would give me some Bayer noise because of its inadequate raw processing of Bayer colour images shot without OLPF. The Mudbricks (a mudbrick is AKA adobe) improved nothing to their ACR for cameras without OLPF that had become available since the Nikon D800E version of the otherwise identical D800 but has the OLPF Eliminated. Look in DxOMark what the OLPF does to the sharpness of the best F-mount lens in DxOMark by comparing that lens on the D800 to on the D800E. Are you shocked? Now also check what more MP do for that lens between a 24MP D with OLPF and a 36MP D800 with OLPF. Shocked? Next, to finish the homework, compare that lens on the 36MP D800E without OLPF to that lens on the D850 without OLPF. Only last year, the Mudbricks launched their "Enhance AI Denoise" option into ACR (ACR is the Develop tab in Lightroom Classic LrC). When you see Bayer noise in your images from a camera without OLPF as grain in the blurry image zones, the low contrast zones, the darker zones, then apply this Enhance option. Or run the raw image through Topaz DeNoise AI that has years of head start on ACR, alternatively through DxO PureRAW that also has a head start on ACR (the algorithm in the PureRAW stand-alone plug-in is called DeepPRIME and also present in LrC competitor PhotoLab). So now we have removed the OLPF and do not necessarily suffer consequences, my point (c) is behind me. What about (d)? Well, the Z 7 is an excellent camera that produces beautiful raw files and I would still use it today if ... The mirrorless camera offers us a focusing tool in called Autofocus that works, but again needs tweaking during a shoot and to me is distracting. It does better than optical focusing in darker circumstances, but "recognition AI AF" in lower light is frustrating. When Nikon announced the Z 7ii, I pre-ordered it, assuming it would solve this kind of issues of mine. But it did not. Nikon assigned the processing power of the second EXPEED 6 to a higher FPS in the electronic viewfinder, while I had wanted better (low light) recognition AI AF. The Z 7 gives equally beautiful raw files as the Z 7ii. Differences may exist but are marginal. The Z 9 then promised to solve my (c) with the EXPEED 7 and firmware that is twice as elaborate under the hood, but it is simply too big and heavy. It did not become clear to me what progress Nikon had made as to (c) to me. Influencers would not test, considering their test shots in their reviews with exposure details, under LV 10. And that's what I need. In the meantime, Nikon released the Z 8. It was clear to me that Nikon had worked on its firmware with a different team, probably behind a different "Chinese Wall" (the metaphor used in large enterprise business to indicate confidentiality separation between people), than the team that had worked on the Z 9. I could not assume that a Z 9 would give me the experience that a Z 8 would. Then I bumped into a review of the Z 8 that did exactly what I needed (to know). And it became a balancing act to determine the upgrade moment - balancing between Z 7ii depreciation and Z 8 price coming down. I upgraded to the Z 8 and this is the first camera that puts a smile on my face since since the Nikon F2 and a few years later the Sinar P. Firmware version 2 makes the Z 8 even better and while I still have a wish list, it is great. The Z 7, in the meantime, shortly after the launch of the Z 7ii, got a firmware upgrade to 3.0 that made having upgraded look silly. And this got even updated to version 3.4. In that sense a Z 7 is a great camera after all these years since the launch. It's a pity that Nikon has not adapted its firmware to run faster when in DX mode, by the way. The Z 7(ii) is a few millimetres smaller than a 20MP D500 APS-C camera (that doesn't have an OLPF so comparing it to a 24MP full frame with OLPF violates ceteris paribus). Now you know why the APS-C is so darned good. There must be some "real time" programming in the firmware (meaning program execution with the precision of the clock) and adapting lower resolution to higher frame rates and other performance characteristics may not be easy. But some people in the market "need" it. But this video/post was about the original Z 6! Yes, as long as you do not suffer from one or more of my (a)..(d) points, you can upsample its images in Topaz's Gigapixel AI to 32,000 on the long side and at 3:2 aspect this gives ~680MP. You will be flabbergasted with images that Topaz's AI works with well. Still, in some of my use cases, I cannot use it. I would not use it as a second camera because the OLPF through ACR's Adobe Standard camera profile gives e.g. a yellower rendition that we can correct in post but don't want to have to.

[@bobamarmstrong]

Are you OK ?

[@mikw1809]

Moiré in your images becomes a consequence of the elimination of the OLPF. For video especially, it appears as a kind of flickering between frames, so much so that editors resort to using guassian blur to make the over-sharpened and unnatural images appear more natural. The obsession with sharpness can be counter-productive if this is the only criteria used to judge the performance of a camera.

[@jpdj2715]

@@mikw1809 - I agree about your point re sharpness. In the words of Henri Cartier-Bresson "sharpness is a [petit] bourgeois concept." That was very condescending about middle and lower classes that have not been educated in art. Well, talking about bokeh is even worse. Most use cases in today's photography are not about "photography as art", but merely about building "image collections". In event photography as a business or hobby, a bit more sharpness can help to crop one person out of a group, e.g. when they look nice in it (flattered) and there is no other decent portrait. That's a business opportunity, rather than art. Also, more expensive kit helps people to be seen as pro when everybody has a camera that shoots decent photos. The same applies to in-focus and proper colours. It's like driving a Bugatti as a way to not have to be interrupted every time by people coming up to you to tell you about their VW Golf/Rabbit. To photographers that keep blabbering about bokeh, I usually ask, "if your bride complains that you didn't make her look like a supermodel, what do you reply? But look how beautiful the out of focus areas are, Ms.?" No, a better camera or lenses are not a guarantee that our images will end up in the federal or national art museum's permanent exhibition. Your point about Moiré is simply not true. It's not the removal of the OLPF that "causes" it, but rather the way the mathematically precise and repeatable wild-assed guessing of missing colours is done in a simple deBayerisation algorithm. This extrapolates missing colours by weighted interpolation. The OLPF AKA AA filter suppresses that Moiré generation a bit, and it also reduces or suppresses residual noise in darker image zones. In my opinion we should call that "residual noise "Bayer noise" [1] rather than colour noise or luminance noise, as the latter two are used as alibi by software developers like the Mudbricks [2] for not improving their software. It is computationally less costly than more intricate algorithms, but still a lot of work in times when processing power was bigger, heavier, more expensive, and more energy hungry. In that sense it is "hardware help" for a software problem that reduces processing requirements. This was not a new invention of digital photography (the actual sensors, photosites, in the sensor are analogue and colour blind). "We saw an atom"- no you didn't. The principle of using hardware to reduce processing power requirements already was applied by developers of the Scanning Tunnelling Electron Microscope (STEM) in the 1970s. Next to the OLPF, there is another hardware help: rows and columns of extra photosites outside the "effective area" that are never shown in your images, but that have their digital EV derivates in the raw file as help for deBayerisation. Before this was added, a separate edge algorithm was needed in deBayerisation. In the case of Nikon, we see even more rows and columns outside the "effective area" in the sensors of the Z 9 & Z 8. My guess is that Nikon uses these as IBIS. If so, then this happens in the processing pipeline between processor and memory card: we never see latency in the eVF (electronic viewfinder) and there is no IBIS latency in video takes as most photographer-induced motion is actually in the sensor plane. This is a complication of processing requirement, but replaces the latency of feedback loops between motion sensors and image sensor shifts by cutting out different "effective areas". [1] US born and bred Mr. Bayer had a German family name that he pronounced the German way (sounds like buyer - the name means man from Bavaria). As it was very difficult to mimic the three layer colour film in a sensor, Mr. Bayer proposed using a single layer colour-blind sensor with a colour filter array (grid) over it that reduces the sensor's panchromatic (pan=all) colour sensitivity to one spectral colour band, turning a photosite monochromatic (mono=single). In a regular grid of 2*2 photosite/filter combinations, the (counter?) clockwise pattern is Red, Green, Blue, Green and the deBayerisation software process has to turn the R into RGB, the G into RGB, and the Blue into RGB. [2] a mudbrick is also called an adobe.

[@roybixby6135]

Love my Z6 too even compared to my Z8/Z9 it still makes great images ... 🦘

[@Tainoblazed]

Glad I picked mine when it came out. For me it was simply the glass and ergonomics. I heard a lot about Sony, so I friend let me borrow one. It wasn’t for me. I understand that it was a pro camera but it felt like a toy. And I didn’t like the UI. Cannon.. I almost went to aswell. But I love it. I will be getting another one when the time arrives. Wish I had 2 card slots for redundancy but it’s not that important

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Agree!

[@SingleTrack66]

I’m going to grab a low shutter count s/h one as a second body to my Z8. Now that the Z6iii is out they are crazy cheap.

[@Tainoblazed]

@@SingleTrack66 and they are still good! Of course the z6iii is much better but at the budget price?! Who can argue with that! That’s a great idea!

[@joeclaymore]

I feel the same way about my z6ii. You just need to learn and not expect that you point and get a great shot.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

I've always appreciated that photography, even though it's a technologically-mediated endeavour, requires me to be part of the process. The dream of AI -- turning everything into a "no brainer"-- holds no attraction.

[@obrys5494]

I own the Z6II but have worken on both the Canon R6 and Sony A7IV. Both of them blow the Nikon away and feel more mature.

[@operatingprincipals9606]

How is it for street photography?

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

I can say I've used it extensively on the street.

[@operatingprincipals9606]

@@RaymondParkerPhotoGood results?

[@Commonyou7149]

After one year later, good camera. Only issue for me is in kids photography, not as sticky as Sony af. Now z is having lot of ff glass, so that problem got solved.

[@Ben_Stewart]

After I got my Z8, I modified my Z6ii for Astro. It makes the camera kinda useless for daytime terrestrial photography but I kinda miss the smaller size and creamer 24MP. Hopefully we see some more camera options from Nikon soon.

[@hishamosman4341]

There's nothing wrong with the Z6 and Z7. For beginners, either one is just what you need. The Z lenses only compliments the bodies even more

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

I'd go further and say the Z6 is a capable pro camera in many cases. If you don't need giant images or tracking gazelles, the actual image quality is superb. None of my clients complained.

[@hishamosman4341]

@@RaymondParkerPhoto I was on the D850 before switching to the Z6II. Then traded that in for the Z8. The good news is now we have more third party lenses for the Z mount. Eyeing that Tamron 35-150

[@Gidgetandmoondoggy]

@@RaymondParkerPhotowhat do you consider giant images Raymond? I’m considering a Z 6

[@malekith13]

I got mine one year ago with the 24-70 F4 for 999€, that camera is really great :)

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Great deal!

[@Ttjam1]

Wow what a great deal. I’ve just paid around £1130 for a Z6 and the 50mm f1.8 and it’s a year later 😅

[@malekith13]

@@Ttjam1 yeah i got lucky, the seller wanted 1500€ for it at first, i waited to see if i could get it for cheaper and he lowered it's price to 999€, so i bounce on it ^^

[@inspinoveritas]

A couple of weeks ago I got a Z6 for 650€ (with almost 2 years of warranty left) plus 350€ for a 24-70mm Z f/4, mint conditions from MPB 👍

[@XDCURACAX]

I just got mine one week ago, body + 24-70 f4 in $900 USD. It was somebody selling through the Facebook marketplace. The shutter count was only 9000. I will get experience with the camera and try to take good shots!

[@chrislognshot]

i would still love Z6 but autofocus not great from me when doing sports. i use for portraits and other stuff like car show. not for action and sports photography

[@daviddru942]

Camera Store? What's that? Not a single one in Boise.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

It's been a long time since I was in Boise -- going on 50 years. So long I can't remember if there was a camera store then.

[@actorjay]

People gotta stop saying these cameras are for beginners. Beginners use their phone cameras.

[@RaymondParkerPhoto]

Yep. nothing "beginner" about the Z6 (and certainly not the impending Z6III). Not to say beginners can't get a great start with any of the Z6s.

[@actorjay]

@@RaymondParkerPhoto Thanks for the reply. I feel like "beginner" has become one of those KZbiny buzzwords to describe people who can't afford pro gear. But the Z6 is pro gear. Like any camera, if you know how to use it to get the pictures you want, then you're a pro and it's your gear. Having an expensive camera with lots of features does not make you a professional photographer. Heck, give me a Canon M50 and I'll shoot weddings, portraits and studio work on it, and the clients would never know nor complain. It would just be a little inconvenient with lack of buttons for easy adjustments / navigation. That's all. For photography, just about any mirrorless camera will get the job done if you know how to use it properly, even an older "budget" camera. That's why I like them.

[@Ttjam1]

I don’t get it either. A beginner just needs a camera with interchangeable lenses and the ability to change aperture, shutter speed and ISO. So say a Canon 5D mkii or Fuji XT1 if they want mirrorless for a couple of hundred bucks would be great and give them astonishing pics with a decent lens. The Z6 could deliver results for a professional in most sectors today. Edit: it is amazing that someone can now get a decent full frame mirrorless body for three figures on the used market. That was not possible until recently.

[@vladepast4936]

So I still my old point and shoot Canon camera, but it does not make it good or great camera. It was not good camera when Nikon started selling it and it is not good now....

[@castieldiallo2945]

do not buy no z6 mark 1. in fact skip any 1st generation of new tech. wait a few months. the mark will drop in price, and will be usable for another 2 to 3 years. by then you will have generated enough money to jump to the mark 3 or 4.