Why I stopped taking Adderall. And all amphetamines, for that matter

[@taks9398]

7 days clean for me today. I’ve only been on it for 1.5 years, but it’s taken a lot from me in that short time-now i’m taking it back.

[@Rotatez]

How you feeling dude? I was also on it for a similar time period as yourself

[@taks9398]

Relapsed. I think the key is keeping yourself busy and changing your environment/routine-As well as staying away from others who use it for a while. I live with someone else who takes it and they will freely share if i ask. Things like that makes it harder. The withdrawal effects aren’t bad and are gone after a week, but the feeling that you “need it” and the compulsion to take it stay with you for a while.

[@Rotatez]

@@taks9398 ive got brain fog after coming off almost 1 year now, getting better now slowly..

[@taks9398]

accee7 Everyone says it takes time-some longer than others. Do you exercise regularly?

[@howardli7129]

What did it take from you I have adhd and thinking of taking it have taken vyvanse before

[@trippimotion4234]

Thank you for this video man. Im in my second year of college and was only diagnosed right before my second semester. Adderall was the worst thing that ever happened to me and I honestly felt all the same ways you did. It’s rough without the artificial clarity the pill gives you, but I think we both know it’s more important to be authentic than to be functioning artificially. I’m working on kicking my addy addiction right now and your video has really helped me feel better about stopping my use of Adderall for good. ADHD is a bitch, but it’s who we are. Good luck with everything man, and thanks again for making this video. More people with ADHD need to be this honest.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Hey, I'm really glad it spoke to you. That's good that you're out now, I had to recover from about 16 years of use. I learned a lot about getting free of the addiction. I plan on making more videos on the subject, how to quit etc. Thank you for listening

[@mylittlepony5964]

Yeah ADHD sucks

[@delaney5721]

Same here it gets hard to quit when people online act like it’s ok and maybe for them but not for everyone

[@jerron8041]

I couldn't agree more to the blockage of empathy.

[@SpadesWoW]

strange. I actually empathize more on Adderall. Human body is wild!

[@bone9947]

@@SpadesWoW same

[@JaysonBernardo-ch9fv]

Like how I've heard meth makes you love evil WILD

[@EdmundSampson-pd7vi]

I feel more deeply on the meds definitely, guilt , empathy everything sometimes too much

[@EdmundSampson-pd7vi]

​@@JaysonBernardo-ch9fvyeah meth amphetamine does but not Adderall used properly

[@fredstriker2042]

Adderall took away the love of my life.... and im old. What it does to those who love the addict isnt discussed enough. Prayers up to all

[@GreeneChakra]

Adderrall Helped me start and finish everything, including my relationships with people that I still wanted to be with when I went off/ I realized how many relationships I ruined, Job Oppertunities, and the emotional withdrawal was crippling.. Panic Attacks, anxiety Attacks, strong Passive suicidal thoughts was what I experienced during withdrawls.. Thoughts of Worthlessness and complete despair, Soon after long term use And then Abuse over use because ot stopped doing what use to help me focus, InsteAd chain Smoking , porn Addiction, Alcoholic urges, Promiscuous behaviors, Theft, Loss of touch with reality.. I had no Appetite, so I burned everything.. water too... Be Ware, it takes weeks. To recover from days and Months to recover from Weeks..

[@R.L.Kramer]

Took me years to really recover. Tha ks for sharing. Really relate to your comment

[@delaney5721]

So did you come off of it for good or go back after withdrawals? I genuinely want to know because I’m in withdrawals and don’t know if I should go back or not

[@KL92105]

@@delaney5721the physical withdrawal symptoms were bad, but I feel like the psychological cravings persisted for a long time, even months after stopping thr medication. I think about adderall alllllll the time. It’s terrible. Wish I never took it in the first place

[@delaney5721]

@@KL92105 it helps me so much but is also a double edged sword I think if I could feel happy naturally and have energy and confidence I’d never need it but it makes me a productive functional human but I don’t want to rely on it and I used to feel happy naturally and had energy but after years of trauma my ex psychopath family trauma narcissistic abuse anxiety disorders etc I lost it idk if it has to do with the fact I take 10 mg of lexapro since I have a genetic anxiety disorder on my moms side of the family. I don’t take that much so I don’t see why that would zap all the energy. I have severe anhedonia from trauma itself so adderall relieves that (I told my doctor all this btw) I do also have a little bit of ADD. I want to do things in my head but I don’t feel like it my body feels damaged my mind feels damaged probably cause it is! I went from a size 110 after that to 189 another reason I needed adderall was so I could lose weight and be my regular size again. I feel if I work hard enough and rebuild myself piece by piece by neutrally building energy confidence and happiness or normal really just normal that I won’t even need it anymore. I tried to quit but like you said about the Anhedonia it got worse (I had this issue anyway) but it got worse during withdrawals and weeks later those were the worst times. I’d crave it. I’m also in college and have tons of responsibilities and people make me feel like absolute crap because my body is so tired and broken down I can’t hardly function so I felt I had to do something and I was tired of getting told how I’m “not good enough” and I’m perfectly aware of how bad it is it’s not a choice it is a choice to try and change it though and that’s what I’m doing. I went back on mine everyone is different do you but I want to not rely on it and possibly never need it again or only sometimes.

[@morganjurney]

I love reading all of the comments! Haven’t come across one mean one, so far, and I just want to acknowledge all of the love being shown here for you and your journey. Also, thank you, for sharing. Fuck, I feel you. So deeply. Thank you. You have inspired me, behind words, and given me the sliver of hope that I needed, to know that I can, that I will, and someday… I will look back. Much love!!!

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thank you for the comment. You got this!

[@kaqueburlington4278]

Awesome video! I’ve struggled with Adderall addiction for many years & it ruined so many things in my life. Keep sharing your story!

[@rachel7550]

Kaque Burlington same!!! I’ve gotten down on my dose to a quarter of one 4 days a week but even that totally messes up my emotions

[@Camille-oq5ku]

never stop sharing your word and speaking your truth. much love brother

[@taranruther2333]

Wow, this speaks so many truths for me and my situation. I’ve been taking add drugs since I was 8, but since quitting my job and becoming a sahm I have personally decided to stop because I didn’t need them to function in life as much as I did in a job. It’s been 4 months since I’ve stopped and it was kinda rough at first but not in the sense that I wish I had it. I hated taking that stupid shit but I truly felt like I needed it to keep my shit together in my job. Right now I am just trying to find myself. I felt like the pill added this dehumanizing layer to me that like you said took a piece of empathy from me, which I knew I would otherwise have. It was awful. I often wonder how much it actually affected my brain development growing up because I have taken it 20 YEARS OF MY 28 year life... I hope in time my body and mind can adjust 😔

[@rachel7550]

Taran Ruther wow I am loving reading these and feel like people can relate. If I could banish the drug from earth I would. It literally takes your heart and half of your life away

[@RayofSunshineeeee]

Omg you took it for twenty years! I’m so sorry 😢

[@iGNiTETheKiD]

Good video brotha ! Everyone’s different but for me I did notice when I came off I gained some weight, was sleeping better, and much more mentally stable! The dopamine rollercoaster of adderall can be hard

[@Zayden.]

Good for you man. It's not easy to overcome this monstrous addiction

[@mackthnife3]

I took Adderall and Ritalin for many years as an adult,although have had the disorder for 70 years. My legit doctor retired and finding a replacement made me feel like a junkie, to the extent I just said enough I’m going off. In retrospect I’m glad I got off , though I miss those “invincible moments”. I also found that after many years it began to have the opposite effect on me. Agitated, sometimes confused etc. So I don’t take it anymore ; been around 5 years or more. Can’t say I don’t miss those moments, but it’s not real and can turn its back on you, after being ur best friend. Thanks. Keep it up.

[@Brittany_Nicole]

Thank you so much for posting this! Please keep us updated with more videos. Hope you are doing well ✌🏼

[@tccarr7410]

Bro you are amazing for this video. The hours, days, sometimes months of after affects of these drugs are not worth it. Hope you are doing well bro.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Doing great brother. Hope you and yours are as well

[@JohnathanAnD]

Just how I felt after 15-20 days without it, I knew I had to quit. Got my script again & threw it down the drain about 10 days in. It’s very hard to come off at the beginning but I noticed exercise and caffeine help tremendously. Eat a good diet and avoid processed carbs.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Sounds like youre on the right track. glad I could be a part of your recovery

[@NyanNyanNyanNyanNyanNyanNyanN]

I struggle with the same thing, much love and good luck to you ❤

[@chrisw.4295]

Thank you so much for your honesty and openness about Adderall. I have taken Adderall on and off, mostly on, for about two years. I was a workaholic before Adderall and an introvert. Adderall turned me into a workhorse. As you said in one of your other videos, I would scribble All over people in a conversation making me think I was making a human connection. I might’ve been making a human connection, but was totally missing the spiritual connection. I am not a fan of Adderall anymore. Love your content. Hope you’re doing well. 🙏🤘☀️

[@shawnduncan547]

Bravo!!!! You are an awesome individual. You have motivated me to stop taking. Thank you so much!

[@R.L.Kramer]

That's great! Thank you

[@realSimoneCherie]

Very depressing to have this insane level of confidence then quit taking something and can’t even get out of bed.... Shows you how accomplished YOU really are vs. the drug

[@thehandliesthandle]

Relatable. But you feel so normal on it, it almost seems like you really are better, but you're actually just artificially motivated and you probably dont eat all day because you're on speed, its not healthy. Im on a low dose and it makes me high for sure thats why im gradually lowering the dose until im not addicted anymore

[@brittanygoodrich1927]

thanks for sharing and being so honest! i know you posted this a while ago but I just now found the video. I am 30 years old and I am just starting the ADHD diagnosis process. It's so hard. I am really tempted by the pills because I have known I have had it my whole life and I have never really been able to focus.. I love art and music so much but I can't seem to bring myself to sit down and focus on something for that long. I'm really hoping to find a natural solution first. After 30 years I've got to do something.. it's sooo hard!!!

[@R.L.Kramer]

That's really tough. I'd imagine my curiosity would be so strong. I have known what they do since I was a child so it was never there. If you start them, it will seem really good for the first while before things go bad, it can be seductive in that way. What natural alternativea have you been looking at?

[@HappyHolyHealthyLife]

I like the shortcut analogy. My doctor referred me to a psychiatrist and I've been watching videos to decide whether I should accept a prescription for stimulant meds. I really do think I have ADD & have struggled ,but of course I don't want to end up with new problems 😅 thanks for your story! It's helping me make an informed decision 🥰

[@davesantos1413]

I saw this comment one year later. One thing that has helped with my add has been spending less time on the internet scrolling and looking for random stimulation. There was actually withdrawal effects from the internet. But I feel better now limiting it to one hour a day.

[@HappyHolyHealthyLife]

@@davesantos1413 I need to do that for sure! ❤️

[@U.s-epa]

I'm 35 and diagnosed with ADHD. Adderall is not a bad drug, just don't take as much as they tell you. My doctor said take 10mg right when you wake up, terrible idea. No doctor told me to take breaks, extremely important.

[@TessG9107]

@@U.s-epa What kind of breaks?

[@ev3rsonix392]

Personally I know what's at stake but adderall has saved me from failing school and calmed my thoughts which helps my severe anxiety that was to the point where I had to do online school and I hated going out in public adderall makes me feel like my old self again and it really helps me but it's not for everyone

[@R.L.Kramer]

How long have you been taking it?

[@ev3rsonix392]

@@R.L.Kramer a few months again i know every risk of taking it but it helps me balance stuff its not making me high and shit it just makes me feel more content with doing schoolwork and stuff i dont feel like doing work on it but if i sit down and start im capable of doing it in less than 3 hours

[@TessG9107]

@@ev3rsonix392 Hey it's been 4 years. Are you still taking stimulants. I'm just starting but on Vyvanse no adderall. How are you now?

[@Shickz]

Loved this video man..the honest aderall testimony i needed to hear. Thank you - I truly hope your doing better now in life and have found you’re mental peace

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thank you my friend. I am doing well

[@switchyard]

Amen. Loved hearing about it man. Currently contemplating on taking adderall but I’m trying exercising and reduce social media usage first to see if I can manage my symptoms

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@switchyard glad I could be a background to your contemplation. That stuff definitely help. Sometimes I go dumbphone mode and erase all scrolling apps, read when I get the urge and it definitely helps

[@lifewithmandy5220]

Honestly, I started taking Adderall a year ago because of my sleep disorder hypersomnia. I didn't know much about it at the time, I just knew it was gonna help with my chronic fatigue. The danger of starting it is that you can't forget the feeling it gives you, ever. It is a feeling you miss time and time again. I've been off of it for awhile because I am pregnant. To be fully transparent, I will mention that it is hard to be normal again without it. You can't recreate the mental clarity, hyper focus, and energy that adderall gives you all on your own. You just can't. Sometimes I wonder if some people can ever forget about it because I haven't. It's real hard for me when I have to suffer chronic fatigue on top of pregnancy hormones.

[@R.L.Kramer]

It's been about 7 or 8 years since I stopped. I kinda forgot and I have developed a new kind of focus that is more sustainable and I would never go back. In the withdrawal, it seems like there's no way to be what you think is normal. One day at a time. Be easy on yourself. And congrats on the baby!!!!!

[@lifewithmandy5220]

@@R.L.Kramer I'll keep that in mind and hope it changes for me too and thank you!

[@FurthermoreJack]

People do like you more off medication ...Plain and simple , even if your going through withdrawal people will feel more connected to you. No way around it, something about adderall disconnects you from normal connection between people.

[@truth100secondcomingofchri4]

Furthermore oh yes it sure does

[@kedricmanson9873]

Furthermore The social anxiety is bad on it :(

[@lifewithmandy5220]

I actually disagree, but not disrespectfully or out of anger. My experience is way different. I took it for hypersomnia and it made me tolerate people way more and helped me calm the heck down from irritability. Unfortunately, when it wore off it sucked, but I was able to function normally without falling asleep every time I sat or layed down. I'm currently not on it because I'm pregnant and it's really hard.

[@Marius-tn4fr]

Been clean for about 3 months. This shitty pill held me by my balls for over two years of my life and I'm just glad I'm not addicted to it anymore. I wish you the best of luck if you're struggling with addiction.

[@Theleahmitchell]

Thank you for sharing your story. Your bravery has inspired my own. In love and light xoxox

[@TommyReagan]

i thought i could never stop taking it! ive been off it now for 2 months and i feel great! i had been taking 60mg since 2015 and i finally quit 11/23. it was exetremely hard the first month but i started going for walks at parks to get my mind off it and slowly getting back to feeling like myself finally! i hated being on it so much i lost so much being on it! its very addictive and it can ruin your life! if your thinking about quitting just start one day at a time and you will get over the first week!

[@R.L.Kramer]

Great advice!!! Congrats my friend

[@NotInMYName_AntiZionistJew]

Ampethamines made me anxious even at the lowest possible dose and caused me to feel depersonalized and egregiously aggravated my attention problems by causing my hyperfocus to go through the roof. Lions Mane gives me focus but doesn’t cause that. As for psilocybin, it’s like I can finally breathe. Nothing has helped me more than shrooms.

[@RN-of2fq]

Where do you get that at? I feel like I need to try that

[@NotInMYName_AntiZionistJew]

@@RN-of2fq I got mine at Amazon. Forage Hyperfoods is a delicious liquid form. I also take capsules and powder. It really changed my life. If you want to know the names and brands I take, just let me know.

[@tonih3433]

You are so sweet and honest, I want to hug you. Thank you 🙏

[@R.L.Kramer]

❤️❤️

[@tonih3433]

@@R.L.Kramer 🙏🤗

[@pellelindbergh7483]

Good job man. I'm in my early 40's, was on Ritilyn when I was a child but my mom had me taken off it b/c she said it made me like a zombie. So about 5 years ago I got prescribed adderall and been on it ever since. Been taking two 20mg er per day. Well, two days ago I got home from work and had an anxiety attack. I didn't take one in the morning yesterday and I managed ok until I got home and started getting the emotional tidal wave of withdrawal. I recognized it and took an adderall to try and correct my chemistry. I'd say within 10 mins the worst anxiety attack I've had in a long time hit me. I thought I might have to go to the hospital, but I found some binaural videos on youtube for getting rid of anxiety and it helped a lot. Today I had to deal with a serious flood of emotions and was tempted to take a half of a 5mg tablet but I think my brain developed an aversion to the drug. I guess it's a good thing, but I wasn't planning on a lifestyle change over the 4th of July holiday. My wife and son are visiting her parents this week so I'm all alone trying to deal with this catastrophe within my body chemistry and trying to cope with the fact that I need to go back to work on Friday. Trying to figure out if I can "normalize" myself to deal with responsibilities within 48 hrs. That's anxiety enough right there.

[@jessieflores9745]

Hey man you alive? I need advice.

[@jessieflores9745]

Rebekah Suzanne Thanks a lot! I’m getting into meditation recently but my anxiety is really bad. I can’t really excuse myself at school or anything. I stopped taking adderall for a couple months now.

[@jessieflores9745]

Rebekah Suzanne Thanks a lot. I wish it could be as easy as focusing on breathe but it’s really hard. Music numbs me a little but it mostly happens in school, where I can’t do much.

[@jessieflores9745]

Rebekah Suzanne I pray. It helps but yeah for sure it’s super hard. Especially with people that love getting on your nerves.

[@trulyunbroken7548]

What a coincidence that I take as a sure sign... I am also going thru this right now on 4th of July weekend. Seeing that ur journey began there as well, but 2 years ago, wow.

[@Juan-zk3dl]

Love your strength in this video, hope you are doing well.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thanks brother. Doing the best I can. Publishing a book on the topic end of summer 💪

[@tylerpiantek7766]

I know I’m late but thank you for this video. I thought I was crazy and the only one that felt this way. I was on it for about a year and quit 10 days ago and haven’t felt this happy in a long time. I finally have feelings back!

[@tylerpiantek7766]

I’ll also add I didn’t have crazy withdrawals & it didn’t take me too long to feel normal again but I do get the urge to take just for the sake of being more productive and getting more done.

[@krystalgardiner5591]

Finally quitting after taking everyday pretty much since 2010, it caused me to have cushings symptoms, I lost all the muscle off my butt and hips, and my skin suddenly started sagging and I was angry constantly etc It’s so hard. Thank you for the video, I’m going to keep pushing. Hope you are well.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Good for you. I hope the process is as smooth as it can be, and in the challenges you grow in ways you didnt expect.

[@TommyReagan]

you got this! just take it one day at a time!

[@claireemalakredell2078]

Thank you so much for the video. Would love for you to share more about what you have learned.

[@R.L.Kramer]

this for you, feel free to ask for more specifics, all the best. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGnMaaCpoLWgaJI

[@droppindabs6497]

For me it's diffrent.... I used it when i was like 6 to 8 but my dad is a very smart man. He said you are not yourself anymore I'm gonna tell the doctor you're doing great without now. Yeah i failed many classes without the Ritalin/Concerta never graduated anything worthwhile. But now i started using low doses and i must say it makes me way better in every aspect. Had a big struggle finding the right dose just to have enough focus and not to much so you get irritated. Emotions ruled my life extremely socially anxious etc. But now? It's gone the benefit for me is i have way to much empathy like insane much. Somehow it brings it down to a normal level that i can have empathy without the crippling anxiety without talking to people without actually hearing what they say because my brain is scattered everywhere. I can work now on a normal tempo like the rest now i can keep up with everything. Normally i would work 30 minutes great and after that i was constantly distracted living in my own mind wich was killing me and created anxiety when there was no need to. Now all that is gone now i have the confidence again to open my heart to people. I am the guy again i was when i was little. The little guy in the neighborhood who was a pranker but in a way that didn't many anyone mad in a way it made everyone happy. I was known as the always smiling kid who wanted the best for everyone. And now that real me is slowly coming back the wall of anxiety is crumbling away a little bit daily. Once i am ready to face all the pain i will stop the medication. I just need it for now max a month just to see it can be different without anxiety over thinking. Xanax did the same for me last year from them i knew i am not depressed this is life and it hurts same like a relationship they will hurt too. But the thing is you can't be happy without accepting all the pain in life. Now i just don't care if my brain starts racing like this is boring don't want to do this etc. I am in charge now not my emotions or negative thoughts they're a by product of nature, we don't live in dangerous or unsafe like it was 1000 years a go. Where everything could kill you the smallest fleu. The conditions now are so much better but our brain is still like that constantly on the lookout. Most people will never know or see it but once you do it's a relief you're not anxious or paranoid that isn't you. That's your reptilian brain talking because it has been for sooo long, my dad once told me look different don't trust your feelings because your heart is blind. Always use your brain. And keep your emotions and thoughts separated. If your emotions and shit doesn't mean you have a bad life/day just accept it and don't care about it. The only NEGATIVE effect is sleeping it's hard i work in the dishwash in 2 restaurants at the same time. Yesterday one side had 350 customers and the other 260. And it's quite an exspensive restaurant so everything must be prestene. Because it's so bussy and there's so much to do i finish from 12 in the night to a max of 2 in the night. Most of the time i can't sleep till 6 a clock wich i never had without that drug. So yeah now only using it on the 3 extremely busy days we have. YOU NEED SLEEP it's so important one of the best ways to heal your mental toxins etc. In this time I've learned so much about ADHD/ADD how they have effect on your emotions and anxiety etc. Now i have peace for the first time in my life. It's just how it is for me i just needed to see it and accept it. And the 3 times a week i take it not for myself but for my colleagues in the dishwash one is 40 and the other 46 just so they won't have so much stress. Just to take some pressure away because i can move dishes so much faster and efficiently.

[@Hotdogwateryum]

Are you sober now

[@droppindabs6497]

@Hotdogwateryum Yeah, i learned to struggle through it. Being sober brings way more emotions and happiness in life than any kind of chemical.

[@Hotdogwateryum]

@@droppindabs6497 yea it’s been a year for me too

[@steelearmstrong9616]

Good for you mate. I don’t even No you, but I am proud of you. Awesome

[@IsaacMorgan98]

I'm just starting methylphenidate treatment for ADHD (21yo) I'm really hoping that for me it will save me from a lot of pain, having ADHD run undiagnosed in the background has lead to me being severely bullied, chronically lonely, fired from almost every job I've had, impulsively getting into seriously unhealthy relationships, marriage with said unhealthy person, drug addiction, alcoholism and long stretches of unemployment. I'm still seeking information on both sides of the fence, taking medication vs not taking medication but so far the complaints I've heard from people who stopped taking the drug pale in comparison to the pain this condition causes me left untreated.

[@RababaInc]

this 100%, only that I am 27 and wish I had taken care of it sooner. yet again I have been trying different meds for about 6 months now and have not found anything that really worked or was worth the sideffects 🙄

[@IsaacMorgan98]

@@RababaInc I'm on 37mg concerta and outside of an elevated heart rate it's going alright so far. Keep looking man, as far as I can tell treating ADHD is a life saving process

[@RababaInc]

@@IsaacMorgan98 well I am still not sure wether it's ADHD, anxiety, depression or PTSD. all of those overlap a lot and are hard to differentiate

[@truth100secondcomingofchri4]

Yes I agree. Weird empathy. And yes the word Actually probably a good reason I lost friends and family

[@AK-vx4dy]

I assuming hat you are not reading here after 5 years. I have so many toughts related to you story. Thank you for sharing you story, you're very brave, generally in life and by sharing this. That's for know but I'll be back ;)

[@R.L.Kramer]

Still active here and on this topic

[@AK-vx4dy]

@@R.L.Kramer I think i know what are you talked about lack of empathy and flatness or "not feeling", loosing contact with very emotional part of self. I lost it two times, once when I get medicine for obesity, wich was designed as SNRI but not really helped in depression but caused weight loss. Usually I self medicated my mood by food, when some asked if I want some thing from grocery, my mind instantly give me a hint. With this med it was... nothing... no hint no desire. My mood became stabilised but in low setting, I withdraw from social life, fell not worthy but not suicidal, rather reconciled with fate and unhumanly brutal onest realistic opinion of my place in the world. Med was banned because of some possible heart damage. Maybe med changed me, maybe I was so used to "be me" for over 30 years that it was hard to accept or maybe med disabling my "self medication" moved my real problem to the everyday light. Finally I learned few things wich sinked in for good, for example that if I eat half bag of fries instead of whole, world will not fall and I will not die. Before I didn't realised that this had so anxious potential.

[@aprilhassell1747]

@@AK-vx4dy try the support group overeating anonymous

[@AK-vx4dy]

@@aprilhassell1747 Thanks for not TLDR and wanting to help ;) It was past story of my first contact with meds "stabilising mood" as a side effect. And I told this to say that "parting" with this emotional part of self could be very scary and seems impossible but sometimes it is rather a "tumor" poisoning brain and soul with anexiety.

[@kanyeeast1340]

Adderall always stops working for me QUICKLY. Usually within weeks. After that it makes me fatigued. (Maybe adrenal fatigue?) It also gives me debilitating migraines that last entire day.

[@ven0IVI]

Kanye East try taking it with Lexapro or another antidepressant

[@FierceGamersChannel]

I have been on Adderall for the last 10 years and was on Ritalin before that. I can tell you the biggest thing that has worked for me and others I know. Always try and get to bed every night at the same time and make sure you take your last dose early enough to not have sleep disturbance. Eat a healthy breakfast everyday and try to get a brisk walk or jog if you can everyday if you can. The majority of dopamine resides in our gut and is produced from leg activity and other muscular activities. They have proven that ADHD do not cause adrenal fatigue through many reputable studies. If the medications are giving you headaches that is not a good thing and be sure and talk to your doctor about that ASAP.

[@rachel7550]

Thank you for sharing this! You were spot on about everything about it. Also, I think “add” and “adhd” are reactions to trauma or lack of true u conditional love from parents but could be wrong. Either way forget the labels you seem super normal and cool and I’m so greatful you made this video and is my total motivation to cut it out of my life completely 🙏🏽

[@BrandonLovoi]

That’s for your honesty,

[@armandosoto2267]

I am so fucking terrified for my future and confused as to what I should do..... pre med student, adderall makes me perfect, but I wonder, how long will this last, am I really me, is this why I’m lonely. I’ve been using it throughout this year only, I lost my supply for 3 months. I went through suicidal depression, indescribable and sever depersonalization. I plan on going back to school eventually, but I don’t know if I could do it without adderall. Do I pick the real me, or the amped up med school straight A me. Currently off all meds, someone give me advice

[@delaney5721]

Oh it won’t last long trust me it won’t even work the same anymore and then you feel you can’t stop

[@Zayden.Marxist]

It's been over 4 years. What decision did you make and what happened?

[@Zeke-di7ib]

This is me right now I have been using for about 7 years now and I’m 14, when I am on aderall besides schoolwork it helps me stay motivated to workout and play basketball but whenever I’m off of it I do not want to do anything and it makes me so mad

[@yungmello3222]

Yo

[@lIIIllIlIIlIlI]

Im gonna do them again i used to have them i stopped (this caused me to basically self isolate for 2yrs) im going back on so i actually do something with my life again

[@R.L.Kramer]

I support your autonomy. I don't believe what's right folr me is right for everyone, I assume you have done a risk reward assessment and I support people to be conscious and careful.

[@MichaelTice-yy5bn]

Adderall and other stimulant medication taken as prescribed can change ones life for the better..I hear some patients being on 60 MG from the jump that way way to much to much adderall can cause hyperfocus..if ur able to take when needed or as prescribed this medication can drastically change UT life

[@R.L.Kramer]

These medications did change my life for the better and the dark side encroached gradually at first, the suddenly. I agree with you completely, but after 16 years of use and 12 years without, I have committed myself to do my best without it. I appreciate the feedback and I also don’t have all the answers, I’m just sharing my stories and experiences hoping that it can help people and move the dialogue along so we can live our lives to the fullest with or without meds on our ultimate walk to self actualization

[@mac11daddy6]

I took adderall for YEARS cause it was the only thing that worked and that I didn’t build a tolerance to. It definitely took me at least 5-7 years to be able to function in work and life without it. One thing I still notice to this day is an emotional detachment from people compared to how I was when I was on Adderall. Not sure if that’s a long term side affect but I’m sure it definitely changes the way your brain works as you go through adulthood.

[@R.L.Kramer]

You find yourself inable to be emotionally attached on or off? There are so many hard to pin side effects of these medications

[@Expensive_read96]

I wanted to try adhd meds since I was in 6th grade and I held it off until the age of 25 when my brain is fully mature and ready. Even then after only 2 years I burnt out and took a break lol I couldn't imagine taking such a heavy med like that since age 7 :O

[@R.L.Kramer]

Pretty wild ride

[@CelticRaE19]

Been off of it for two months been on it for 17 years prior. I’m really scared of what is going to happen. But I know it is for the best.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Godspeed. Remember that you are not your withdrawal. It's all passing through

[@ToxiCisty]

Good luck you can do this you will be happy organically you will be ok.

[@pellelindbergh7483]

I took it about 5 yrs. The first few weeks off it were horrible. It started giving me panic attacks so I was forced to stop. I didn't really want to stop, but ultimately I am glad that I stopped. It took me many months to learn to live without it and get to know the people around me again. To care about people again. Exercise and proper nutrition has helped a lot. Prayer and trusting in Jesus Christ was crucial for me. I've been off it about 1.5 yrs now. I still want to take it sometimes but I can't go back to living like that. I hope this helps for what it's worth.

[@6FootVampire]

I got off for a week after taking very high dosages elvanse and attentin for 10 years. It felt like I was glued to the bed, everything felt so heavy, my whole body and mind. Will I get my energy back eventually if I stop taking them? I had way more energy before the pills compared to now.

[@bfrysuns]

I just stopped taking adderall 4 days ago and to hear you say it takes a year or 2 years I feel like I'll never be able to do this.

[@R.L.Kramer]

That was for me. I was taking it for several years every day. I felt like it took that long to be completely fresh. After a few months I felt good. Felt better, but there was still a lingering advocate in my mind to need the drugs. One day at a time is real. Supplement with caffeine or nootropics if you need to and I def recommend finding a practitioner to help you who isn't just going to put you back on them. You got this.

[@stefanymarte]

Thank You.

[@MentalHealthMMA]

Thank you for the video my friend

[@jsr7599]

I am opposed to amphetamines for people with overly acute consciousnesses. Please look into the following if you want some possible safer alternatives: shilajit, agmatine sulfate, inositol, uridine monophosphate, iodine, polygala. This is not a 'stack', I am just throwing out a bunch of different compounds that one can begin to research extensively before they decide if they want to try it or not. Of course, if one doesn't exercise a couple times a week and have a decent diet, that should be looked into first.

[@steelearmstrong9616]

Exercise and diet is a must and should be everyone’s top priority

[@NaVponce]

You are lovely and cool and inspiring. I want to embrace myself, too. Do you think that how our brains work is not what the system needs from people, so I can keep working the sick way it is... We are not colonizable... and the system makes us feel weird... but what if "weird" is ok? What if there' no right or wrong and we just need to embrace ourselves and do not care about what narrow minded people think....? I a mess right now. Bought my adderall as a back up plan but I do not take it... I just want to be comfortable being my weird self... I do not want to "function" and lose myself in the attempt. Thak you for your video

[@JayywavySurfingLaughs4Days]

I’m currently dealing with withdrawals right now stopped taking aderall in March because it just stopped working and re took it May 6 and had to stop last week because it was making me feel worse waiting on the phyciatric evaluation

[@skylersmith2140]

It ryins relationships, it's heavy duty man you get high on it. Yoh shouldn't be high from a med. I loved it it was 2 steps forward 3 steps back stoped taking it. I finally just foound modafinal its what i thought adderall would be no crash you can sleep it helps me. Adderall hurt me. Look up modafinal i take it a day or two ob then stop then take it again. If you ever need to rech out you can always talk to me. I feel this i have been on Adderall since 15 but damn 7 yrs for you. Thanks for posting this.

[@RayofSunshineeeee]

I think it’s horrible that doctors are allowed to put kids & teens on this! I took adderall from 30 to 31, it lead me to severe depression. I couldn’t imagine how bad it would of been if I was a teenager!

[@R.L.Kramer]

It was rough. I was very depressed in fourth grade and didnt know why

[@MimiDahhling30]

Great video :) thanks for sharing

[@steelearmstrong9616]

Love you are accountable

[@GreeneChakra]

Thanks So Much For this video.

[@user-J250]

The problem is the neglect of medications needed to help with the withdrawal. I find it astonishing that amphetamine/stimulant addiction has no well know withdrawl drug. Opiate users have many options with methadone, Suboxone, naltrexone,etc.. alcohol/benzodiazepine users have gabapentin yet nothing for Adderall other than “therapy” when doctors hand it out like candy. There is a withdrawal there is body pain there is mental side effects, etc. and your dopamine system is screwed for a very long time. You can’t just let someone go without helping with medications and only using therapy. There are ways to help upregulate dopamine and not just stick this out.recently I read some pieces of Dr. Edward Fruitman who seems to be extremely knowledgeable with the importance of medications needed to ease the withdrawal. He also mentions testing as many people like myself ultra metabolizers. He brought up Topamax(Topiramate) in several studies.they used it in cocaine and methamphetamine addicts during tapering off. Not only did it help reduce tolerance but it actually increased the positives instead of attenuating them like most tolerance/tapering drugs do. Just because the rest of the seizure is rare from amphetamine withdrawl doesn’t mean you can negate all the other side effects that come with it which can be very life-threatening and ruin someone’ entire world.

[@josephwebster2909]

Great as someone who is un medicated now i dont k ow what to do,build a tiny house live off the land? I smoke pot but pot dont help all the time and it burns me out

[@FurthermoreJack]

Oh marijuana actually makes withdrawal worse! It brings out the awareness your off adderall. Advice to adderall quitters ~ don't smoke weed until withdrawal is over!

[@R.L.Kramer]

Wish I knew that. Haven't smoked in almost a year and enjoying the clarity

[@FurthermoreJack]

Heck yeah! And saved $money$ So much Money saved off any and all drugs lol let me tell ya, I attribute my success from quitting smoking weed because having more cash IS a drug on its own! Congratulations! Awesome!

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@FurthermoreJack thanks man! Keep it going!!!!

[@haze42082]

100% true. Cannabis use occasionally causes serious anxiety and too many deep thoughts and emotions. Its actually labeled a hallucinogenic.

[@Works_Of_You]

Thank you

[@mcnewcomb]

Thank you for sharing. ❤

[@R.L.Kramer]

You are so welcome

[@yangly8875]

I guess ADDERALL IR or ADDERALL XR Whichever u was takin is not for U then........ But yes ADDERALL XR OR IR is a miracle for ME, my thinking & my anger issues now I have a job & going to school.. .. .. ..

[@R.L.Kramer]

How long have you been taking it? I beleived it was for me for 16 years. I never didnt like it. I just knew it wasnt who I really was

[@R.L.Kramer]

How is it going with your adderall usage? things going good at job? sleeping enough, eating enough?

[@yangly8875]

Adderall XR just 1 time a day is absolutely the best 👍💯%...... it has helped me concentrate, & even calm me so so much when I'm being yelled at, pushed or told to hurry up very loud.....(im also now really into bodybuilding, & MMA training......just MMA learning & training for defense only.....NEVER 1 on 1 sparring I'm afraid of wat my anger will make me do if I do get hit hard only for training & then my thinking will have me do very stupid things for retaliation)& a friend of mines ask me to go get my concealed carry(I might qualify 🤔) I just said yes but dats a big NO NO......& dis is the 1st job I've had for dis long 8yr.s without being fired(I never quit my jobs but mouth, my threatening comments & my tired half awake bad attitude always gets me fired😱)damn loading trucks is a hard, heavy & hot job but a jobs a job it pays the bills so I'm still bustin my ass there🤔........ I dont believe in suicide👎......but I wouldn't mind 1 bit if a BIG asteroid hit the earth & it hits my place 1st while I'm still sleeping😇😂......don't wannabe in a hospital getting poked or shot up with drugs to survive & live a painful life😫😩........

[@BinaryTechnique]

Short term it's a miracle drug but long term you're f*cked dude....trust me bc its gonna rewire your brain and make you think irrationally

[@Melissaxorenee]

I’ve gone from 60mg a day to 40 mg a day and I can’t see myself going down :(

[@R.L.Kramer]

Baby steps

[@rd8072]

Any tips for getting over the first few weeks off of it?

[@R.L.Kramer]

Endure. Rest. Let yourself rest. Watch tv, eat, sleep

[@mikegee4197]

How much were you taking when you quit?

[@R.L.Kramer]

20mg xr in morning and 10mg salt in afternoon

[@Love4Mucha]

Thank you for sharing. I'm a concerned and constantly researching, mother of a 12 yr old boy. He's on concerta, since 5 yrs old. Recently diagnosed with depression. This is helpful. Just not sure how to help him, the timing of removing meds, puberty, all that.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Your child is lucky for your careful considerations. Everyone is a different person, maybe a conversation with him about the meds and how they can affect him and explain that if he goes off, there may be a transitional period that could be really mentally and emotionally challenging. Something like that is what I would have wanted. Puberty is a big time for development, I hope you and him come to solutions together, that give him success!

[@tjtworlds]

Love4Mucha my 15 year old just passed away one month ago from taking concerts and adderall. These are very dangerous medications

[@austinbrodeur2642]

One thing you never mentioned was your dosage. I bet it was 30 x 3 or something neurotoxic like that

[@R.L.Kramer]

20 mg a day. one a day.

[@R.L.Kramer]

sometimes 10 mg tab in the afternoon also. I believe you are afraid that adderall is bad for you'?

[@stasik89]

R.L. Kramer Wow that’s a low dose. I’ve been taking 40mg but I haven’t experienced any of the things you describe in your video. I take breaks though (take modafinil on days I don’t take amphetamines) eat healthy as much as I can and try to get 7-8 hrs of sleep every night. I guess it does really affect each person differently. I’ve been wanting to try Vyvanse though. Adderall can be very taxing on the cardiovascular system and central nervous system in general.

[@R.L.Kramer]

How long have you been takig it.?

[@stasik89]

R.L. Kramer It’s been just a couple of years.

[@BrentLarryproduction]

ACTUALLY, amphetamines work on dopamine and norepinephrine. Not dopamine and serotonin. Dang I guess I'm a smart ass too

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thank you for that technical correction. I do not believe that changes anything in my opinion or how if affected me by changing the name of the affected chemicals. I'll remember that.

[@BrentLarryproduction]

you're probably right. anyways, nice video man

[@R.L.Kramer]

thanks. cheers.

[@seancappuccilli]

ACTUALLY, amphetamines increase the presence of dopamine, norepinephrine, epinephrine, AND serotonin, keep in mind R.L has been taking the drug since the age of 7. Nice video, very well spoken.

[@Scorch1028]

If you can “stop taking stimulant medications” without feeling drowsy every day of your life, then fine, but I cannot. My local pharmacies have “run out” of Ritalin, Adderall, Focalin, and all other prescription drugs. So, I’ve been in Hell for the last 3 weeks.

[@R.L.Kramer]

I was in hell for 6-9 months. You're in withdrawal. It sucks

[@jordana9237]

I agree with yea you must know the withdrawal is real or aight I like the vid

[@mattyicee27]

16 years old and have been prescribed ADHD meds for about 6 months since the end of last school year and did not take it consistently and went on breaks without it quite often. Recently since I got my new prescription of Adderall 25mg XR for the school day and a 15mg IR for the afternoon for homework and such. I like what it does to me, I find my mind at peace and finally paying attention in school. I like what it does to me, I felt as if I was a very annoying person off the meds but now I feel as if I’m “normal” and can just stay to myself and not have to try to be an attention whore class clown. I can not decide if this is in my best interest for my health to continue taking this daily due to the negative long term impact it will have on my dopamine levels and overall neurochemistry. Feedback would be appreciated.

[@R.L.Kramer]

I answerred your comment to the best of my ability_kzbin.info/www/bejne/anzbqpyAaLBmn6M 6 mins in for you

[@TheCoolOwen]

I meditate, do yoga and take 20mg XR of Adderall daily. Adderall by itself will not work and you must have frequent visits with a psychiatrist. Diet also is very important. I am sorry that you can no longer visit your doctor to get the prescription anymore. You must understand that ADHD is caused by nicotine taken by the mother while she is pregnant, and that genetic change to the brain gets passed down from generation to generation.

[@R.L.Kramer]

I have been adderall free for 8 years and prefer this. Also meditate and do yoga daily. My mom didn't smoke during pregnancy, but maybe my grandma did. Do you have proof of this correlation. If that's the case, I like to believe by living well and turning it around, we can heal our ancestors mistakes

[@TheCoolOwen]

@@R.L.Kramer kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKq4h5ZmftmYmJI this is a great documentary explaining ADHD from Canada. So much scientific research instead of only anecdotal accounts. My grandmother smoked while pregnant with my mom, but my mom didn’t smoke while pregnant with me. However I see signs in ADHD in mother and my siblings as well. Before getting Adderall, I could not for the life of me meditate. Since being on it for 2 months (and increased dosage after 1 month) I can finally meditate for the first time in my 37 year life. I feel so much more calm and confident with Adderall. I am still not 100% though, and it took me more than one try of the medication to build stomach tolerance and make the necessary dietary changes.

[@NyleActive]

Anyone else getting blurred vision ???

[@aprilhassell1747]

I call it weird vision. No clarity

[@steelearmstrong9616]

That’s from high blood pressure and side effects like blurred vision is a result of a stroke or heart attack coming along

[@aprilhassell1747]

@@steelearmstrong9616 you can get it coming off the medication as well. Withdrawal PAWS.. Have you ever come off these meds? Love to hear how you did.

[@jonathancaouette4132]

♥

[@hollyhockbaby1216]

you stopped taking xr because xr sucks

[@FurthermoreJack]

It's just an illusion, if you said you were on adderall now in this vid, I wouldn't had known the difference lol. Seriously

[@FurthermoreJack]

Let me take it further, if you followed up a vid where your on adderall, I would notice a more boring character lol

[@R.L.Kramer]

You dont know me well enough to detect the difference from baseline and being on speed. I think I get where you're coming from, but taking amphetamines isn't an illusion. It's real and it adjust internal brain chemistry. ADD,and the reasons we take amphetamines are illusions and delusionary, but the drugs are very real

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@FurthermoreJack on Adderall, I was not boring, it made me talkitive and excited

[@FurthermoreJack]

Yeah...I had a friend was the same situation as you, I did feel more connected to him off adderall, on the flip coin, I enjoyed my overly excited talkative friend calmed down off adderall.

[@carlosrodriguez-od4bx]

Give them to me then. I’ll gladly accept the blessing!

[@R.L.Kramer]

Comes with a curse

[@carlosrodriguez-od4bx]

what curse! I’ve always taken stimulants and had no problem

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@carlosrodriguez-od4bx stop taking them and you'll find out what kind of damage has been done

[@carlosrodriguez-od4bx]

@@R.L.Kramer it’s my choice. All drugs come with a cost. Including psychedelics. I encourage you to watch some experts on drugs. Check out dr Carl Hart.

[@carlosrodriguez-od4bx]

@@R.L.Kramer kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHKmmKJnrKuZlbc

[@Justyn219]

you have other issues it appears

[@R.L.Kramer]

i am not without flaw. I am discussing my issues very candidly and openly. I have issues, yes. Does it help you to point this out?

[@AK-vx4dy]

​​@@R.L.Kramer I think it was not mean. I also have impression that if I correctly assumed ADD as only diagnosis or only treated diagnosis was shameful shortcut taken by your doctor and/or other adults. But it not diminishes value of your story, but adds new dimensions. I have a selfish desire to know more, but I know that probably never happened.

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@AK-vx4dy if you do want to know more in the coming months, I am publishing a book ,HOCUS FOCUS coming of age with ADD and its medicines where I do tell this story at length. You can preorder it and find out at rlkramer.us if you want

[@R.L.Kramer]

what did you want to know? @@AK-vx4dy

[@AK-vx4dy]

@@R.L.Kramer i must rewatch your video because I forgot my thoughts after this time...give me day or two