HOW I STOPPED TAKING ADDERALL, how to deal with amphetamine withdrawal

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This is a part of my story of Adderall use and abuse.
I hope this can help anyone else on the path of healing, learning and growing.
Having taken amphetamines for most of my life and departing from them, I again feel called to communicate with the ADD/ADHD community about what I have experienced, the impressions left on me and the perspective I have developed over time.
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[@PrestigeWorldWidePWW]

Please pray for me. This is my 5th day off of adderall for 10 years.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Good for you. Sending you strength. How're you feeling?

[@PrestigeWorldWidePWW]

Bro I've been clean for 2 months now! Completion without adderal is so much more gratifying

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@PrestigeWorldWidePWW yes!!!

[@PrestigeWorldWidePWW]

Honestly the first couple days I was crying and super depressed with no energy then about 2 weeks in I started to get my energy back. It's been about 4 months now and my confidence and endurance is coming back. It feels good

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@PrestigeWorldWidePWW congrats man! So good to hear you stick with it!!!

[@jonathanclardy7823]

Flushed my last two 20s instant release 9 years ago. Quit my job of 13 years and spent a month on the couch . Thank God my wife stood by me after seven years of amphetamine abuse. Keep your head up bro. Things do get better

[@Hopeof7suns]

your depression only lasted a month?

[@Trrippy_Shades]

65 days off still depressed as fuck not feelimg normal abused them for 3 yrs daily...WHEN WILL IT GET BETTER

[@jhmmgf4236]

@@Trrippy_Shades dont just quit then my dude.Get on something else.I would try modafinil or bupropion if I were you.Stay on them for like 1-2 months and then quit those too.

[@Kylemathews1]

@@Trrippy_Shades Kratom

[@Trrippy_Shades]

@@Kylemathews1 then you get hooked on that my friend

[@haven876]

I'm on day 5 of cold turkey quitting adderall. I'm in tears listening to this. It is so hard, blessings to all who are on this journey with me. Stay strong, you can do this

[@R.L.Kramer]

God speed. Stay strong. Remember, you are not the withdrawal, it is just passing through you

[@haven876]

@@R.L.Kramer thank you so much. This is literally the hardest thing I've ever had to do

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@haven876 it's the hardest thing I've ever done. I learned a lot about DOI g hard things by doing it. Stay tuned, I have more to share about it. Hope I can help

[@marshallstrander3922]

How’d it go?

[@haven876]

@@marshallstrander3922 thank you for asking! It went okay, I did indeed stop the adderall and it was just awful. The withdrawals were extremely intense. I've dealt with substance abuse issues for so long, so many years. Today, I am 11 days sober from everything. No weed, booze, or pills. Recovery is probably one of the hardest things to overcome, and to anyone who reads this, please know that you are not alone and that it will get better. Stay busy. Don't think too much, just commit to your new life and trust that it will get better. Things will feel raw (they do for me as I type this) and it may feel like you've lost part of your identity. There will absolutely be times that you are triggered, but find strength in whatever you can to make it through. For me, things were very boring at first, like nothing was sentimental anymore. But it will come back, and it will be more meaningful when you can find the things that do feel sentimental again. It will get better

[@cbc067]

It took me about a year to get back to myself and I've never felt better. You can do it

[@evdre532]

I NEVER comment on KZbin videos, but I've watched this video everyday since quitting adderall and it's honestly the reason I stay clean and keep fighting these suicidal thoughts. I used to cry to my therapist and friends about how I just want someone, anyone, to feel how I'm feeling, and after my first time watching this video it finally felt like someone understood. Every word you said resonated with me. I'm forever grateful. I can't thank you enough for this.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Tears reading this. Knowing I'm not alone either. I'm so glad I could help you and I made the choice to share. I'm proud of you

[@5_a_m_i]

How are you now?

[@sugarman08]

I hope you're still not taking it

[@samanthacoombs2625]

You are a God send. I have been feeling so alone with the fear of withdrawal. 8 years of Addys. I am losing all my passion for everything. I’m so tired. Thank you! So much!!!!

[@merissalabate7431]

yes im so tired. it has to be cause our body hasn't had a true resting period just "fight or flight mode". 8 years now too truly wanting to be free from this and trying my best just scared of withdrawal

[@infinity-signs]

I’ve been on them for 10 years I have to stop taking them starting today have you guys been off since last year and how is it ?

[@VidLineBricks]

I'm also very proud of you. Keep helping people for a better future. This is good leadership and you are mutch needed. Take care

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@VidLineBricks thanks. I needed to hear that today

[@zambC]

Got the honor of meeting this man in the gym today. Still off adderall and still spreading wisdom!!

[@R.L.Kramer]

💪💪💪

[@keithfuller]

Good on you brother. I accidentally kicked adderall last week under circumstances similar to yours. Your video is helping me. Illuminating the path; validating my experience. Thank you.

[@paper.hanger]

Thank you for sharing..so motivational. I could relate on so many levels..I truly didn’t realize how much this pill was a false idea of a life for over 14 years. It’s now the calm after the storm and having a support system going through this is so beneficial. Sending positive energy to you and everyone going through this journey.

[@kellytoledough]

I’m on day 36 without Vyvanse and it is grueling. I quit drinking and smoking for over a year, no problem but I’ve never felt closer to a relapse than I do now. I give you so much credit.

[@R.L.Kramer]

KEEP GOING you got this

[@Enochulate88]

Can I have some please bae I love you

[@diggerfox7194]

Keep it up I'm going through a very similar thing. Its very very hard i know

[@aprilhassell1747]

​@diggerfox7194 how are u?

[@ArabianQuirkSA]

Nice eyes

[@kayteecee]

I am commenting on this video again. I saw it on day 34 of sobriety and now on day 157. I know what works for me may not work for all but this video got me through a difficult time. Keep up the fight everyone!

[@R.L.Kramer]

Congrats!

[@ItsChrisFtw]

Two years later if you're still there...have you recovered? How are you doing? And looking back, would you ever take it again?

[@ClayOnEarth]

Really proud of you dude. Your story is a blessing to so many. Keep aiming up and may the wind be at your back.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thank you Clay

[@rauxmedia]

Honest, experience based testimony. Beautiful brother!

[@rauxmedia]

ps: What was your average dose when you were using, before you tapered?

[@R.L.Kramer]

20-30mg XR, Either a 20 mgXR in the morning or 20mg XR in the morning and a 10MG tablet to keep it going in the afternoon

[@Hifcrea]

Started taking Adderall a year ago cuz my bros had extra supply. Before that I used it once or twice a week and everything was fine. When I used it I was super productive and that was it. Once I had more access I started using everyday all the time. A year later now I realize how much of a negative impact it’s had on me. My sense of creativity is washed out. So many things that made me content in life before just do nothing for me anymore. I used to exercise all the time. Now I never do Probably about two months of me having days where my brain is just completely and utterly not working and feeling like I have CTE or something has made me realize I must stop this shit before I go down an even deeper hole that will effect me for the rest of my life.

[@easilyiguana5837]

How are you doing now? Did your mind recover from what you lost on adderall?

[@alisonannallyallen1437]

God bless this man

[@blacksand8427]

I stopped taking Adderall five months ago and it was the best choice I have made in my life. Yes, Adderall could be fun and make you feel like you are on the top of the world but remember, what goes up, must come down. Stay strong. Qq

[@R.L.Kramer]

Hell yeah

[@easilyiguana5837]

How long did it take you to regain your natural level of energy and focus and motivation?

[@aprilhassell1747]

@@easilyiguana5837 it can depend. And if you have ADD it will be harder.

[@U.s-epa]

For abuse yes, however when you have chemical deficiency (ADHD) there isn't really and 'up' persay if you aren't abusing it.

[@mac11daddy6]

Personally speaking for people with ADD/ADHD it’s much harder cause you’re basically trying to relearn how to live your life without the very thing that got you through basic day to day tasks. It took me 5-7 years to learn to live my life without Adderall

[@sirhappyman]

Bro, I needed to see this, I'm quitting for my kids right now going through the withdrawal, I'll never do it again. Much love to you sir!

[@bigfood2001]

i'm 19 and i trying to get my life back together, searched on youtube 'cope with adderall withdrawal' and found your video. i can strongly relate to you and your video helped me a lot. thanks and love (from germany)

[@bigfood2001]

@@David-ye8fk 18, like you

[@zamaz48]

Am also in the same boat. 18yo. On it for 1.5 years.

I'm watching this after I decided to stop taking Ritalin after 4 years of abuse, messaged my therapist. If this works, I'll be forever grateful for you choosing to post this.

[@R.L.Kramer]

I hope it helps my friend. I am working now to make a comprehensive book about adhd without meds on top of the one about my story with it! I hope you have a good story and a soft landing. Let me know if you have any questions!

[@chiyosachiko2434]

Thank you for this. “Maybe I wasn’t effective and I was just crazy, but I liked it” that’s the trap I always fall into. Thinking it helps me when it actually doesn’t at all; it’s just anxiety and crazy repetitive shit

[@jcde5018]

Thank you for sharing that it's just what I needed to hear. I've been an aircraft mechanic for 10 years and Was prescribed adderall the whole time . I've tried quitting many times throughout the years But that Was Impossible . I was told Friday I am red flag at the pharmacy and will never be able to get a prescription filled again. I didn't even ask why . It was exactly what I needed and I knew it was the best thing for me. Just took my last one about an hour ago as I drive my family to Kansas City to start a new job. I was already motivated to get this done and your video just boosted that to a whole nother level . Thank you

[@joesmoe6947]

Omg... quitting cold turkey on your way to a new job and city?! How’d that go?!

[@polarroller]

running every day during opiate withdraw, was a godsend...it was just like taking a pain pill, but all natural.......good bless the runner's high.

[@Hopeof7suns]

thankful you can run without pain

[@abdessadekj]

@@Hopeof7suns boxing?

[@robertworton2394]

I’m a week off suboxone and exercise is the only thing that gives me relief. Finding that my testosterone is coming back!

[@marshallstrander3922]

A good runners high for me is honestly almost indistinguishable from an opioid high

[@UT4Clips]

I was on Adderall xr for 4 years and I was able to quit. Best decision I ever made.

[@Goodhello369]

The comment section here is chilling. The amount of people having issues speaks volumes.

[@charlotterosemelvillebonne8001]

Bless you for creating this video and vulnerably sharing your experience. It’s SO hard. I was debating getting another prescription and this video helped deter me, so thank you for that. I am on day 6, and this is my 5th time quitting.

[@andrewpascal6096]

I'm sort of in the opposite direction.. I struggled to quit drugs and had many issues, and ended up going on Concerta for ADHD/substance abuse issues. I've been clean off the illicit drugs and have been working with my psych to correct many of my ingrained habits. I will say that I'm on the minimum dose to be successful. I know there are two different attitudes to prescribing ADHD meds. As much as you can handle, or as little that you need to be successful. Good luck on your path to normality! Hope you are well

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@andrewpascal6096 there is no one right path for everyone! Yea I have been clean for over ten years and I’m doing alright. Congrats on your sobriety from illicit drugs, I hope we all find safe and sustainably ways to thrive and live ☺️☺️ Many ways to the top of the mountain

[@Expensive_read96]

We're all in this together my friend, we can do this!

[@U.s-epa]

Very interesting perspective. I'm 35 and just figuring out my ADHD and how it has formed me. Adderall has been a godsend to me, however I can DEFINITELY feel it needs to be in small doses. I feel like normally all my life it was very hard to find that rewarding feeling after completing a task like you said, but with Adderall it feels like I really did it and did it well.

[@R.L.Kramer]

We all have to make our choices to see what works for us. I'm sure my situation would have been different had I not been on it as a child and onward. I'm turning 35 on wednesday!

[@U.s-epa]

@@R.L.Kramer agreed. I'm glad my mom never did when I was young however now I have so much to learn about myself. Happy birthday!!!!!

[@rawrandom6881]

bro... im glad i watched this, you exactly said everything i wanted to hear from someone... and im just at that phase of struggling to quit... i hope if i can speak to you in details somewhere....thanks a lot man... God Bless you

[@R.L.Kramer]

Absolutely. Glad to help. Let me know what you want to know and I can address it in another video or send me a message? does youtube allow dms?

[@rawrandom6881]

im not sure bro... maybe on skype or facebook... i was kinda wondering to consult with u only if its possible

[@R.L.Kramer]

email me @ [e-mail]

[@R.L.Kramer]

how are you doing? making progress?

[@rawrandom6881]

hey Kramer... yes man.. a lot of progress to be honest... its been over a month absolutely calm.. started working out and stuff... going great ... thanks for following up.. cant be more glad man

[@CHVRLEYY]

Dude. Thank you. Just hearing a voice that has gone through what Im going through right now is helping to clean up the biomechanical mess that has become my brain. Ive on been on adderall for a little over a year, (my dr thought it would help my already existing depression and anxiety). I didnt think this was going to be so hard, because i get cocky- but if I didnt have a daughter, theres a good chance I would have ended my life yesterday. My Dr was SO quick to prescribe me adderall, and it makes me angry. YOU were withdrawing after 16 years, and made it to the other side an incredibly strong and insightful human. That gives me hope. I love this, thank you. 😍

[@R.L.Kramer]

Hey man, this is why I make these videos. Sounds like you're on the right path and doing the right thing. You got this

[@CHVRLEYY]

R.L. Kramer - just semantics here, not a man! But thanks for your response, and keep on keepin’ on. When I get my mental shit “together”, its likely ill be paying it forward by spreading this same message. Adderall is BAD, mm’kay? 😝

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@CHVRLEYY sorry about that! Love to hear more about your journey!

[@valentinaparis56]

Omg thank you for sharing. I just stopped cold turkey about a month ago. I feel all kinds different things, some good and some bad, but manageable, I guess. I can’t wait to feel better and not think about it everyday.🙏👍

[@user-rb7rx9cs6y]

Thats very true- that doing stuff is more difficult without amphetamine but the completion of things is just so much more rewarding! This really helps me, I have saved this video (I'm nearly at 21 days off) and this will help me as have to go back to grad school in about a month and I'm terrified if I can make it without amphetamine. Thank you so much

[@R.L.Kramer]

Glad I could help. I remember that feeling. It's like going into the unknown when with the meds, you feel some kind of certainty that things will go smoothly, its like you dont know. Congrats on 21 days, you can do it, its probably hard work

[@user-rb7rx9cs6y]

Thanks! It was but I just found out about L-Tyrosine which helps big time, its truly been a game changer. I wish someone had told me about it sooner :/ that and exercise I am convinced now is the answer@@R.L.Kramer

[@stellarstar9340]

I cannot thank you enough for making and posting this video! YOU SIR are a BADASS, SOOO BRAVE, STRONG, & AMAZING for being so vulnerable, open, & honest about this addiction! I am currently trying to come off of Adderall after about 6 years of stimulant abuse (Vyvanse & Adderall, some Ritalin.). Thank you man! Seriously!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@maximusbaker5057]

Watched your first video on why you went off.... all I can say is thank you so much for an un-biased, anecdotal breakdown of what this drug has caused in your life. Making serious considerations after hearing first-hand from someone roughly in the same shoes as me. Much love, brother. WE GOT THIS!

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thanks Max

[@yeyito2818]

Thats a straight up add hat

[@EpicMathTime]

😂

[@alizadevries1876]

Thank you for the video. Good for you for overcoming Adderall and I hope you are able to fulfill, even surpass your potential in life. G-d bless.

[@DevinlyBeats]

im beginning the journey of quitting... i must do it...

[@osiris-7843]

How are you going so far?

[@DevinlyBeats]

it's been bumpy... i haven't taken adderall in 2 weeks, but the extreme fatigue and just lack of interest in things is tough. unfortunately, i've been drinking alcohol a bit to compensate. I know this isn't a good solution, i just cant take being so disinterested in everything and my job (sales) requires me to be enthusiastic and convincing. even though its tough, i do feel good about not being so robotic and in the zone all the time like i was on adderall. i know it takes the brain a few months to adjust, in the grand scheme of things, its not a long time at all... but in the moment, it feels like an eternity. its hard to have people notice my decline in performance. any tips are appreciated from anyone. thank you.

[@R.L.Kramer]

its been a month. How is it going?

[@mcjones853]

Lido Lavish do you know what will help the withdrawals.

[@DevinlyBeats]

haven't taken adderall in 47 days

[@koeberle]

Proud of you.

[@existnow.]

I have access. I don't want access. I love it. But I love my sanity more. And I want to remember some part of my life. I want my life back. I want to be present when I'm looking at my dogs face. I'm gonna sit sleep pace and curl up in a ball for the next week and know that each day will pass. I have overcome benzo addiction a number of years ago. I can do this.... thx for posting this xx

[@R.L.Kramer]

@@existnow. you got this man

[@kaleb.metzger]

"...I had to bury part of myself." Damn, man. I'm watching this video to cut back on my Adderall consumption. I can't imagine quitting. Although, that statement really cut deep. I've tried to stop taking amphetamine before. My life was hell, polarized between sleeping, and managing my own behavior. Power to you, man.

[@harellevi9687]

I have no words but Thank you man

[@buckshot2912]

20 years taking Adderall and 4 days without, my script will be available in about 7 days, it's my hope and prayer that I don't give in to the addiction and get it refilled, because I'm tired of the roller coaster racing through my life ! Amen !

[@R.L.Kramer]

I've been there! Throwing pills away, taking them out of the trash, putting them outside, digging again. Win it!!

[@ameliahenderson4955]

I used to count down the days until my refill after I would take a month’s worth within a week and a half. My life completely revolved around the refill. One of the darkest periods in my life. I finally confessed to my psychiatrist that I was abusing the drug after about 5 years. Best thing I ever did.

[@objectiveperspective777]

Having ADHD feels like a curse I cannot escape. I hate Adderall and hate the fact I can't do ANYTHING right. My brain is foggy all the time and I just don't know what to do anymore. I'm trying to ween off of it and its only been a few months since I started taking it and its already so hard.

[@TjallieBrrr]

How are you doing now? Youre probably going back to your chaotic ADHD life which is worse then withdrawal by itself. Really wish i had good advice but my ADD is crippling as well. Maybe look up some vitamins and supplements? Diet is also very important. I wish you the best of luck!

[@Emilys-u1n]

I felt this so hard… have you looked into food intolerances? Sometimes food we eat can cause ADHD symptoms but perhaps you don’t even have ADHD. I’m gluten free now and it’s really helped. Now trying to quit amphetamine. Cheers!

[@prilem7408]

Thank you so much 🙏 I'm on day 3 of my second attempt to quit vyvanse and you give me hope

[@ameliahenderson4955]

It took me 5 years to get off Vyvanse. I finally hit rock bottom and confessed to my psychiatrist that I was abusing it. Best thing and hardest thing I ever did. It’s been about a year now. I really hope you can quit. I will be thinking of you ❤

[@storybass4454]

You’ve got this!

[@divid873]

Thanks for sharing your experience, my husband have been taking it for about 30 years. He wants to quit, but he doesn’t know yet how he will be capable to work.

[@R.L.Kramer]

I totally understand that. Work seems to be a really common reason to stay on the meds. I hope he finds a way to transition away without losing his jon

[@therealj9642]

My wife is addicted to adderall, she has destroyed her life entirely and we are getting a divorce. She is 33, beautiful and very smart. This drug took her and turned her into something else. Was there anything anyone could have said to you that you would have believed them that you are addicted. She denies she has a problem. Thanks for sharing your story

[@R.L.Kramer]

I answered this to the best of my ability in this video---kzbin.info/www/bejne/anzbqpyAaLBmn6M

[@Hopeof7suns]

omg i am so sorry :( is it the irritability and anger that can come with it?

[@juliak1500]

This comment is what I needed to hear

[@ADAMKANE510]

forgot to add....boxing!. if your a real adhd'er .....meditation is not going to happen....boxing is meditation in a way...its concentration but with moving around...perfect....and its good exercise for burning excess energy...

[@Hopeof7suns]

i have ADD and painting really helps me, or walking or dance

[@timothystevens4025]

Bro your the man hope ur still doing good. That struggle and what u went through was a gift if it had anything to do with as real as ur being in this video

[@JavaRacingCo]

I was on it for 9 years. I've been off it for 6 days... so far, it's hard to find the same motivation I had while on it. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@R.L.Kramer]

You got this. It's hard but the hard part teaches you how to focus on your own

[@gsp1634]

Chris I bet you you’re probably back on

[@JavaRacingCo]

@@R.L.Kramer Thank you! I really appreciate it. It's been 91 or 92 days and I still haven't taken any at all. This video (and you responding to my comment) actually helped me feel supported. Thanks!

[@JavaRacingCo]

@@gsp1634 proud to say im actually still off it! :)

[@life5161]

Hilarious. I thought this comment said "I have the same motivation off it as I had on it" . 😆 I thought this guy is full of shit. Then I realized I read it wrong. Nerf Nerf.

[@sureiguess1]

It has been 3 months to this day. I took it for 13 years. I was about a year ago getting Rx'd 180mg a day. I would take up to 300mg a day. Quitting adderall has been the hardest thing of my life. I didnt quit out of choice. I did it because I hit rock bottom financially and my parents refused to help me if I didn't go to rehab / quit. Pray for me please.

[@ripskip160]

How’s it going? I took about the same amount for around the same amount of time. I relapsed after 3 months and haven’t been able to quit since.

[@AxtInk]

Proud of you and appreciate you sharing this

[@landonmunoz2090]

Fantastic journey bro. I feel so much of the same mentality on usage and personal reactions to what is going on in your journey. Just treat myself good, therapy, eat good, excercise 🙏 thank you for your post ✊️

[@slackersonly5031]

I quit and have 50 in my cabinet...no tapering no nothing. I dont want it. Anxiety is through the roof but im fighting

[@R.L.Kramer]

Proud of you man. I gotta ask though, what are you going to do with the 50 pills? Why do you still have them?

[@slackersonly5031]

@@R.L.Kramer i guess to be honest i hope after a few months of being off them i could take them moderately, ( not in exess just one) bi weekly "recreationally" but who knows maybe its just a pipe dream and that feeling i got from them is gone forever. Ive never been addicted psychologically im stopping to save my life. And my gf suffers from low blood pressure if she ever has a spell they could be used to raise it in an emergency. But most likely there getting trashed. If i found out they were destroyed i wouldnt care a less if that answers your question, but down the line maybe they can be a resource.

[@Sammy.Skylarkk]

@McKenzie Bartleson x,D

[@easilyiguana5837]

Thank you for this. It was the most helpful one I've watched

[@randallrubenstein8072]

The struggle is real bro!!

[@ahrens07]

I smoked weed & took the herb ashwaghanda to get off adderall, gabapentin, & suboxone. Taper down slowly until barely any is left. Had 0 withdrawal symptoms

[@R.L.Kramer]

Well done

[@killabeedj9920]

Youre awesome and thank you for sharing your story. I feel I'm on the right path with walking, painting and spending time with my pets. Discipline and meditation is an excellent idea ! I'm at the 3 week mark 🤞🏻🙏🏻

[@kayteecee]

I'm back!!! I made it to 1 year clean from Adderall! It has been a Rollercoaster but I made it! This video was so helpful for me and I was only 2 months in of getting clean. Thank you to the creator and to all those that shared in the comments as it really helped me push through!

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thank you!! I’m so glad my experience abs choice to speak about it could provide even a drop of help. Proud of you for getting off adderall. It’s not easy

[@kayteecee]

@@R.L.Kramer it wasn't easy that's for sure. So to celebrate I booked a vacation to honolulu, glacier national park, and georgia. See what money can do when you're not wasting it on drugs. I'll share my adventures on youtube!

[@NuitHadit]

Off adderall for a month. After 10 years of using it to treat my ADD, I am still in withdrawal mode. It is tolerable rn, mostly, but I dislike random bouts of anxiety. Not depressed anymore, but still struggling with being intentional. Sending prayers to all who are trying to get off these chemicals for good.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Cheers my friend. Your awareness of what's going on makes the process hugely more manageable

[@storybass4454]

Proud of you!

[@abcdefgggggg70]

News flash -- we're all on chemicals. Brain chemistry. Eschewing ADHD medication is like eschewing glasses for people with a visual impairment.

[@NuitHadit]

@@abcdefgggggg70 for each their own. Noone is forcing anyone to do it. Each person can make their own decision about their body. If the meds work, thats great. And if the medication creates other problems, which it often does (so no, not similar to wearing glasses) then people should not be shamed or berated for making a different choice.

[@abcdefgggggg70]

@@NuitHadit That's completely irrelevant to what I said. Not sure what you think you're refuting.

[@Sabb-s2y]

Thanks for being straight up man. This story hit home. I’m looking at 2 bottles of this crap. Every side affect you said is right. But I’m never going back. Thanks again 🤘🇺🇸

[@HelloVanityy]

Thank you so much for sharing this. I hope to reach a point in my life at some point soon where I feel capable of sharing my story and providing guidance as well. Love, respect, admiration and blessings from a fellow former adderallic (still blindly and excessively self-medicating, stumbling, searching,)

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thank you and your welcome... I like that "adderallic." I used to say that too. Look forward to hearing your perspective

[@VidaArmonias]

Hey, I'm so happy I found your channel! This is something I've been trying to learn about for a long time now, it's hard to find a deep honest first-person perspective on this! I searched on youtube " how to quit amphetamines" and your video popped up first, idk how much you know about youtube but put that quote in your tags on this video and that will give you some more well-deserved traffic 😏

[@mojofomo6182]

Great video. Extremely helpful. I am lookig to stop taking them myself. I've been on stimulants since the second grade on and off. The bit about not being able to take credit for the things accomplished while on the Adderall really resonates with me brother. Thank you for sharing.

[@Hafhafnhaf]

My psychiatrist once told me straight up, “it is pure speed” Day 31 for me after 24 years

[@R.L.Kramer]

Psych wasn’t lying. Holy shot! 24 years. Congrats bro

[@ALEXPEAK]

man i've been battling with a dangerous adderall abuse habit / binge thing for the last few years. I got emotional a few times during this video - 6:00 i think this is the phase i've found this past week :{} i've have started to get into riding bikes and like basically it was a very conscious thing i did in an attempt to regain my life. I appreciate people like you for making videos like this.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thanks and good going on your journey. I am so glad I can help

[@5_a_m_i]

Lol this is so nice. On the internet there are some scary resources for people. "Oh you can suddenly stop taking meds, you don't need to taper stimulants, oh no you can't become dependent if taken as prescribed, and you should not experience withdrawal unless you were not taking them properly/ abusing your meds." Lol. You're content is so relatable, I have not seen anyone else that has had the same experience as me. I was looking on tiktok and found a bunch of ppl who stopped then decided they needed the drugs and went back. OR ppl who stopped then making their videos 2 weeks later about their journey when how can they feel normal after only 2 weeks??? It's just so nice to see someone else who has experienced something very similar, thankyou for sharing your story (:

[@R.L.Kramer]

Thank you for the encouragement. I am looking forward to going deeper once my book is written and available. I am active on tiktok as well. @adhdmedfree. Cheers!

[@chrismarble9259]

Your lived experience is better than any doctors advice I've seen on KZbin! I was off it for 10 years until starting again 6 months ago. I hate how I feel on Adderall but I want to be off of it so bad but not looking forward to the withdrawal.

[@R.L.Kramer]

it can be brutal, but you can get through it.

[@aprilhassell1747]

Tappering off is recommended

[@sweetbabyem]

2nd day off adderall… please pray for me I feel like shit

[@AWESOMEMEGGIE77]

I often feel like I need this. I try and imagine who I would be if I had never started taking Adderall and I feel like they would be a complete stranger from who I am today. I also try and imagine how I could function or do anything with my life if I ever decided to go off of adderall. I also feel like there is a war inside of my body where one side of me is trying to pull me away from the adderall and the other side of me pulls me towards it. I don't think I have a strong enough support group to go through this. I fear I would lose everyone I care about. But I also fear that I will never know who I really am. I've been taking adderall since early high school. Now I am 20 and living on my own. I have so many dreams and goals. What if those goals go away when I stop taking it?

[@horacio981]

Carry on

[@tasteink]

id have to take more adderall just to watch this video, so its going to my watch later

[@user-J250]

Here’s a little science if you’re interested: WARNING LONG READ. I have recently become obsessed with voice text and this took me like 30 seconds LOL Methamphetamine(*Meth) Amphetamine(*Amp) First thing I want to say is people need to stop comparing meth to amphetamine(Adderall,Dexedrine,Vyvanse, Mydayis) Research on withdrawal methods for meth will be similar for amphetamines but withdrawl methods for fentanyl will be similar for a measly Vicodin. Doesn’t mean they are even remotely comparable in neurological side effects. Same applies to meth and amp. They are both stimulants and that’s about the only thing they have in common. Caffeine is also a stimulant so to be fair if you’re going to compare meth to amp that like comparing caffeine to meth or amp. Tribulus increases testosterone and so does injectable testosterone but you wouldn’t compare those two right? Same thing applies here. One simple tweak to a chemical structure can make it a complete different animal. Take steroids for example EQ and Dbol are very similar in their chemical structure yet they produce complete opposite results. One will pack a ton of nasty weight on you with increased estrogen and the other is very mild with with lean gains and no estrogen conversion. So that squashes the meth vs amp comparison. Plus they both release dopamine in different ways and meth can exacerbate metabolites leading to dopaminergic toxicity leading to neurological problems,etc... www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2631950/ Another thing is most people think amps only deal with dopamine. It actually involves all neurotransmitters to a degree. Increasing some while depleting others but eventually depleting all of them. Even the GABA pathway plays a HUGE ROLE. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4419710/ It is absolutely pathetic and disgusting that science has not given enough attention to withdrawl medication for this drug. And the reason why is because it’s very rare to have a seizure however you can develop a series of horrible side effects like anedonia, psychosis, PAWS, suicidal tendencies,etc.. Research has tried but not enough nearly enough has been put into it and I firmly believe the reason is because BigPharma doesn’t want anything else as they make too much money off it. There’s a reason why people need more and more of it. First Adderall IR isn’t enough so you get Adderall XR with 2 releases. Then they come out with Vyvanse and market it as time released which is stupid because it’s nothing more than dextroamphetamine(75% of Adderall) attached to lysine which needs to be cleaved from red blood cells through digestion making it a prodrug. Meaning it’s meant to be taken orally only. Vyvanse is only 40% amphetamine so a 70mg pill is 28mg amphetamine, 50mg pill is 20mg amphetamine,etc.. Some doctors literally compare a 30mg Vyvanse to a 30mg Adderall which is absurd as 30mg Adderall has 30mg amphetamines in it while a 30mg Vyvanse has “12”mg amphetamine in it. Dextroamphetamine is slightly stronger but minimal. A 30mg Vyvanse maybe, and I mean maybe, could be as effective as a 15mg Adderall IR. The only difference from Vyvanse vs pure dextroamphetamine is it takes 1-3hours to kick in but it’s NOT TIME RELEASED essentially it’s a larger front loaded dose of amp that takes longer to kick in so theoretically it “could” take longer to wear off but many people metabolize it faster or have been on it for a while and find it to not be as effective with time. At this point you would think the FDA would say OK we need to do something about this and come out with something to help get people off this stuff but instead they come out with Mydayis which is basically a triple release adderall XR in lower doses. Big Pharma is in bed with the FDA and they only care about making a profit which is why there is no withdrawal medication. Until people start dropping dead from it like they do with opiate OD’s or have seizures from benzodiazepine and alcohol withdrawl they will not make anything for it. There are many pathways that could help with all of this including the Phosphodiesterase(PDE) pathways(specifically PDE4) which is why Ibudilast has shown some promise but it’s not enough. In fact PDE10 inhibition deals more with dopamine so they really should be working on an inhibitor for that. Then you have the histone deacetylase(HDAC) pathway and inhibiting that can play a huge role in being helpful. Unfortunately one of the best inhibitors for all targets is Valproic Acid(Depakote) but it comes with to many side effects. Best thing out as of now is actually over the counter and it’s sodium butyrate even better tributyrin. But again only involving the HDAC pathway isn’t enough. Then you have the tyrosine hydroxylase pathway(dopamine related) which is increased while on amps but rapidly depletes quickly and stays depleted. Focus needs to be brought upon increasing this and something as simple as supplementing with tyrosine doesn’t cut it. More research needs to be involved in products like Bromantane for this. Bpc-157 and 9-me-bc are the 2 most promising at restoration of the full dopamine pathway but not enough research is out yet and other pathways need to be addressed to fully recover. Hell even the mu opioid pathway plays a role which is why some have had success with low-dose naltrexone in amp recovery but again not enough research is done on this and it’s not nearly enough to tackle the issue completely. All in all #1 reason why nothing is available is because big Pharma doesn’t want there to be but second to that is something very interesting. Which is the deltafosB pathway. Honestly I haven’t had time to dabble into enough research on it but it is the main addiction pathway in the brain. DeltafosB has impact on sex, exercise and nicotine (more specifically cigarettes) this is because when tobacco is burned it becomes a monoamine oxidase inhibitor(maoi) which is why people have such a hard time quitting smoking when switching to chewing tobacco, gum, patches, etc. if you ever wondered why you can’t quit smoking when switching to the following a big part of it is the mental aspect of smoking but research burning tobacco and maoi and you will see why. Back to deltafosB what I find interesting is besides sex and exercise (both good for you), the other drugs it impacts besides nicotine are.... yep you guessed it.....amphetamine and methamphetamine. Even opiates and benzodiazepines are not nearly as impacted by deltafosB as amphetamine is. This is proof that amphetamine is technically MORE addictive in the brains deltafosB pathway(addiction pathway) than heroin, morphine,Xanax, Valium,etc.. and that is another big reason why I think it’s been so difficult for research to come up with a withdrawl protocol besides the bullshit they throw at you like “rest and therapy.” Ok sure, try going through amp withdrawl with just rest and therapy when you have a family and a career. 🤦‍♂️

[@aprilhassell1747]

I had to go to my moms for a week just so I could sleep. It broke my heart because I have a 2 year old who needs his Mommy. They need to band this drug not even a person with adhd needs it. The withdrawal is heartbreaking.

[@aprilhassell1747]

I do feel like if I could have uninterrupted sleep for a solid month my recovery might have been better. But like you said we have responsibilities. Thanks for mentioning the real world.

[@Vedioviswritingservice]

It is only good for the short term. Taking it for years will do more harm than good. I have been taking Modafinil and Vyvanse. I stopped the latter and felt like crap for about two weeks. The former is not an amphetamine, but it is probably not a good idea to take long term either. I will probably tackle that next. I don't think I ever had ADHD. Perhaps I convinced myself that I did. Doctors give out this stuff like candy. I feel sorry for people hooked on this crap. One thing I noticed with Vyvanse is it absolutely destroys your coordination. I would imagine that Adderall has a similar reaction. Make sure you pray for people to be free of it.

[@bwin3401]

Meditation and being in the present moment, yoga and tai chi, cutting out wheat and sugar, spending time in the sunshine. Our culture makes wanting to go on so hard.

[@R.L.Kramer]

That’s the good stuff

[@bwin3401]

@@R.L.Kramer thanks. I have also found l.Reuteri yogurt as encouraged by Dr William Davis. Perhaps people struggling with their troubles can be helped by this probiotic. Really works.

[@scottcortus9590]

Thank you. Decided to make the change. Your story was helpful

[@levitninja]

Thanks for sharing. Someone I love is going though quitting right now. It has been extremely rough. God bless

[@R.L.Kramer]

blessings abound

[@NikkoKnight703]

Things get better.

[@Mariska1983]

Extremely helpful! You rock

[@6FootVampire]

I've been on elvanse and Adderall for 8 years, very high dosage. I want to get of but everytime I try I'm just glued to my bed and so tired I can't move barely. Wish I never got on these damn pills, I don't know how to get out of my addiction.

[@ljvanhear]

inspiring. just know your video really truly helped me today xx

[@R.L.Kramer]

that makes it worth it. Thank you.

[@bryceboroughs1905]

My doctor prescribed me two 30 milligrams a day. I only take one. But I’m weening myself off. I’m currently taking 15 mils a day and I feel better. I’m 21 and I’ve been taking adderall since I was 5

[@R.L.Kramer]

Good for you. Good luck on your journey

[@HIFRENDITSJAVI]

Good luck man!!:-)

[@bryceboroughs1905]

Thanks guys!

[@bryceboroughs1905]

What really made me wanna get off is it was fighting against my stress and anxiety making it 10x worse than what it should have been

[@EnthalpyH]

I really feel bad for kids taking this stuff. It's just horrible to have kids being prescribed this stuff during their formative years. I think only adults 19 and over should be prescribed.

[@brendabanks6000]

Good video, I want to quit Adderall, as soon I don't take those awefull pills I feel like I'm gonna jump out of my skin, I get too hyper. I'm doing like 20 shores at the time. I hate taking Adderalls.

[@thehopeshow4203]

Thanks What I needed to hear appreciate the humble & Genuine Honesty & info shared👍

[@ADAMKANE510]

nice vid dude ....it can definagely sneak up on you...i dont mean to highjack your thing but just a few hints how this medication can actually help confirm your diagnosis. im a 42 year vet of this shit...diagnosed young i have been studied by neurologists/psychiatrists since age 5. if you google brain image of dopamine some of them are me when they were testing the new mri machines in the early 80's. turns out they could see the low levels of dopamine...i remember they gave me a can of coke to drink and dopamine levels fired up...anything exciting fires up under active dopamine...i started on the new drug 'ritalin' as i was expelled from 4 schools by age 7. thats if i got to school and wasnt found by police following butterflies in a field somewhere. i hated the medication as it made me tired and drained...i could pay attention but only as i had no energy. so i would secretly not take it. by age 18 id been in and out of juvenile lock ups / awarded to state as my poor parents couldnt handle me....i would fist fight anyone at the drop of a hat just for the buzz...even losing was fun...train surfing...thieving stuff i didnt want for same buzz....putting any drug in my body i could get for the buzz. i remember snorting speed and falling into a deep restful sleep....eventually i was court ordered onto stimulant medication after running myself over in a stolen car( never trashed them...just drive them around and park them somewhere with keys in em...oncd again for the buzz....i thought i was passenger for some reason and got out to check something and woke up in hospital...id broken every rib ...both collar bones...fractured spine....from hospital to jail...i was offered either stay in jail or take these everyday under our supervision and you get to go home ( troubled child housing unit). when you describe what adderall did to you that was me not on them....hussling....never sleeping....a million things going on....social to the point of annoying people but i couldnt tell....never eating...i couldnt sit down let alone sit still....i would stim my feet so much i caused lifelong damage my toe joints...chew my face off...bite my nails til they bled....had constant racing anxiety...constant heart palpitations...hundreds a day which made me think i was going to die from heart attack damaged my vocal chords from taking so much , most couldnt keep up as i jumped between 10 different conversations all at once ....paranoia ( one they dont speak of much) constant deep thinking about the universe and why are we here and all that stuff(its stimulating) i was very creative ...always making things and inventing stuff( but would never finish it). they did an i.q test ....i tested borderline retarded for working memory but borderline genius for problem solving part( cant remember other 2 parts) my brain burns it fires that hard....physical injuries from fighting ...i used to take on much bigger meaner guys just for the buzz of surviving....i used to have the shit beat out of me and feel great relief for awhile...id take on groups of guys and go berserk just to see how far i could get...it never ended well but id feel better for a bit. anyway sorry for rambling. here is what dexamphetamine did for me. 1. i calmed right down 2. i started eating and got an appetite. 3. i start actually sleeping properly for first time in my whole life...i would take half a tablet to get to sleep...falling asleep takes concentration. 4. i watched t.v for first time. 5. i stopped stimming 6. heart stopped skipping beats...has never happened since. 7. stopped all stupid dangerous behaviour without even noticing as i was artificially stimulated. 8. no anxiety or paranoia at all. 9. i became stable and learnt a trade. 10. i no longer forgot where i lived 11. i could remember peoples names . 12...i could go in shops without becoming completely overwhelmed. 13. i could be in crowds without having to figure out who wanted to hurt me and making sure i got in first.... 14. people could insult me and i didn't want to pull their throat out. 15. most important to me . i re-established a relationship with my family as the loose canon had been muzzled. now heres how the drug can help you know if you really are low in dopamine. ive never had to increase my dose i never felt euphoria or happiness from it....just being able to be in the world and present is amazing enough . it stopped my million ideas all at once bullshit...that was one of my biggest issues. it stopped the constant horrible bored feeling that would literally drive me insane. i can take it for years and stop and all that happens is opposite of you...i stop sleeping...stop eating...start inventing and hussling....start talking and never stop and revert to dangerous buzz seeking behaviour ...eventually i end up in jail..another big indicator of whether lifelong meds is appropriate ...do you end up in jail? ...my dose was 10 mg twice a day and half a tab if i couldnt sleep...maybe few times a week....its not the be all end all...it has downsides. 1. lowers my libido( another opposite effect from most people) 2. a bit of a zombie effect ( i miss my daydreaming and almost grandiose delusions ...ive just invented the million dollar idea...never did but it was fun) 3. it made me settle down...get married and have children...idiot!. haha. 4. constipation. 5. heartburn. 6 . arthritis type symptoms( weird as they go away when i come off) 7. i become a boring type person which is good for me but my old friends miss the clown and the show he used to put on. 8. i takes away my emotions a little. adhd emotion is very strong....i could cry listening to beethoven for example...just the beauty would bring me to tears. or feel bullshit happy at successfully pulling apart an entire motor and rebuilding it....( remember...you have all the attention in the world for things you do like...) im a tinkerer from way back....anything to keep my hands busy....but i lose all this on medication ...i become a robot basically. 2 other points to diagnose which most doctors wont know. adhd will always suffer low blood sugar..and high blood pressure .it regulation has something to do with dopamine mine both become normal.on medication and asthma is linked in their as well somehow...amphetamine gets rid of my asthma better than any inhaler....i have been studied for 35 years by same adhd specialist team at gold coast university hospital....i was thinking about writing a book as all i see is kids saying ....my add is so bad i cant study and my grades are bad....if i used to get to school with a bag still on my back and wearing shoes it was a major acheivement..i only learnt to read and write at about age 8 after going on Ritalin. anyway....need to go take my medication as you can probably tell....keep up good work dude...i was watching as im thinking of cutting down and trying some healthy eating type shit but after typing and reading that i might just stay on....cheers dude ..

[@bulldogsandlife]

You truly are the poster boy/man for ADHD. Reading this I think I am nowhere near having ADHD. I throughly enjoyed your post, and yes you should write a book. Get pics of brain scans you did and show it. Will be something people esp parents of children with ADHD will want to read. Thanks for long and interesting post.

[@JesseKaufman]

Your experience with Adderall mirrors mine, except that I've had absolutely zero negative side effects (except being more thirsty so I drink more water-which i needed to do, anyway) .. I could be used as a study in ADHD

[@nicoledefontaine6144]

Well done god bless you, thank you for Inspiring others 🙏🙏🙏

[@lanavikadorothea1913]

Am glad you said how long you were on it so far because I cannot find anyone who has been on it as long as me or mentioned how long they were on it or the milligrams

[@kaleb.metzger]

I've been on Adderall since I was in the 6th grade. I'm 19.

[@MichaelTice-yy5bn]

I go thru the script so fast..yeah I'm tired when adderall leaves my system but pretty sure I feel better off it..idk just like everyone else there's goo's and bad

[@R.L.Kramer]

Exactly. It’s super nuanced and the general narrative is that it’s a one size fits all flawless solution and I think it’s just more complicated

[@kevintomas1822]

Thank you for this man

[@LongIslandsHardcoreDetectorist]

Thank you friend this helped me a lot.

[@charleneosler6729]

I really need to talk to you please. My son ended up 5150 and I'm trying to piece his symptoms together. I just found out he was taking Adderall and stopped and also was doing dmt so im not sure which or both may have caused all this to him. He now acts like a child again they have him on meds that I don't believe is helping him at all. I'm a very concerned mother trying to help save my son before this becomes permanent unless it's already passed but to understand what all is happening and what things contributed to it or not. He wasn't living with me at the time and the ones he was living with are no help at all and making things harder by telling him to keep secrets from me isn't helping me at all. If you could be of any help I'd really love to talk more. Ty concerned mom

[@R.L.Kramer]

Hi Charlene. I am so sorry you are going though this with your son and I am hoping this is the lowest it gets and from there, he can get better with your support. There seems to be a lot going on and it bears repeating that I am not a mental health pro in any regard, but I have some people I could recommend and you are free to email me @ [e-mail]. My expertise is anecdotal experience of adderall and serious self examination and if I can help in any way, I will. I can provide you the contact to some pros as well as field any questions. The situation is delicate and I commend you for taking action and seeking help.

[@lanavikadorothea1913]

3:45 WOW my psychiatrist literally asks me what I want and I get it. She’s never questioned my dosages or anything and I believe money is the main factor so WOW! It took me years to get down to one pill of Xanax and now I’m 4 days off of adderall which I don’t know how long this will take to get off it. I feel the depression, but I’m trying to not take any medications which is hard.

[@gsp1634]

Wow she was killing you

[@osiris-7843]

Very honest account - thank you for sharing. You are making a significant difference to lives you'll never meet. I haven't stopped taking Dexamphetamine. I tried several times and felt exactly how you described. Fatigue was the most debilitating effect. Sleeping just 5-6 hours a day on Dex I'd go 12-15 hrs broken sleep when I stopped. I feel't totally useless, ugly and dumb... .. . and that was just the first couple of days. I have been on Dex for over 15 years and the thought of stopping seems a barely sensible option to my Dex addicted brain. Best wishes to those trying.

[@good4gaby]

I quit after 15 yrs..been off it 3yrs. My brain is still hooked. I HONESTLY believe tapering slowly for Certain people is SO Important. it can leave a wake of treatment resistant depression, like I’m experiencing, painful stuff. Fresh air and laughter helps….Bless us all : )

[@robertworton2394]

How many years were you taking adderall again? I just was on them for a few months but we are talking high doses 60-80mg. I hate this feeling it is a panic attack mixed with the feeling that I am struggling to stay awake

[@R.L.Kramer]

Stimulants from 7-23 on and off. Adderall from about 15-23

[@robertworton2394]

@@R.L.Kramer thanks for your honesty brother

[@sp123]

This is why I didn't go past 25 mg so I can quit without side effects when they run out during the outage

[@juliepinc9172]

Loved the video! I was on Adderall for 4 years and it really did a number on me mentally and physically. It was also really hard to walk away from it and the withdrawals where extreme. I actually uploaded a few videos on my channel about my journey.

[@aprilhassell1747]

Ill check them out. Thanks

[@jackscruggs1536]

I feel sorry for you guys. Parents put their kids on meds so they don't have to do parenting stuff. Sad

[@austinwalker335]

Adderall was my worst enemy and my best Allie at the same time. And it didn’t help the fact I have A.D.D and used to have major depression so the adderall was like a miracle drug for me and is very hard to stop taking it.

[@ggram0551]

Also, for what it's worth, I've recently had some, (approximately 30 - 40% decrease in severity of symptoms with use of the peptide Tesofensine....not cheap, and I was trying to reap proprted satiey benefits....but it actually unintentionally helped with some ADHD symptoms. I've not seen anyone else report my findings though. Interesting to note that it was originally intended to be made into a drug that helped either Parkinson's or Alzheimer's patients. I can't remember exactly which, but basically was acting on achieving this via mostly dopamine pathways, touching a little on Seratonin,....but no cholinergic or norepinephrine pathways to my knowledge... and in accordance to how I feel on it, this makes perfect sense.

[@R.L.Kramer]

Interesting

[@lf725n]

Great video I'm on my third day off OFF

[@Drew-do9wx]

I'm glad you got through it.

[@nowayray3930]

I was a day 1 Adderall user. Before that the black pills, Ritalin. from 4 years of age to 20. You have to become a new person. Thank You For Sharing. PS: FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT!

[@R.L.Kramer]

Get it!