Why I Thought Catholics Were Pagan (Siaka Massaquoi)

[@santiagoramirez1477]

As of now Sam is a Catholic, he is still studying and hearing arguments from both the Catholic and Orthodox church. Sam is amazing, it would be great to see him on Pints again.

[@peru1492]

I agree.

[@EvelynKerubo-q9f]

He doesn't say he's Catholic... He says he goes to the Catholic Church which accepts his baptism as an Assyrian and allows him access to the Sacraments. He also experienced Marian miracles through Catholics so he prefers to go to the Catholic Church as an Assyrian until he has reason to leave. Meanwhile, he's still making his way through the East-West debates on the Papacy and the Filioque.

[@KellyLamb]

Great segment, I can really relate to him. I'm a Protestant but I subscribe to & follow a lot of Catholics & Orthodox Christians. I see them as my brothers & sisters in Christ. I'm disturbed by how many Protestants hate on Catholics; if anything that makes me want to look into your denomination more. Thanks for this conversation! Always enjoy this channel.

[@dianeangel7171]

When our lady of Kibeho appeared to three visionaries, she asked all student to pray the 7 sorrows of Mary. She never said only Catholics. She told them they are all her flowers and some are dry, but we all her flowers. We love divisions for nothing. As for protestants who hate Catholics, it depends on the pastors who say things without knowing what they are talking about or lying. I used to follow Dr. Stanley and he never said negative things about the Catholic Church. We pray for the unity of the church while Protestants are calling us pagans. Read the early Christians aka church fathers and you will see that the Catholic Church does exactly what they were doing.

[@KellyLamb]

@@dianeangel7171 Thank you so much for this insightful, thoughtful comment, my sister in Christ! Indeed, I know many fellow Protestants who do not demean nor slander the Catholic Church; I choose to listen to them over the 'haters'. I see no use in division! And I certainly don't see Catholics as pagan, or 'worshiping statues' or any of the other shallow takes I've seen, usually on social media. I will consider all you've said! Have a wonderful weekend. (p.s. As a side note...you are absolutely gorgeous!)

[@samburton2978]

This was a great episode. I'm a Protestant Pastor, who learned about every denomination from professors from mine. But I became a missionary. When you're in the States it's easy to hide in your echo chamber. On the mission field labels fall away as we share the Good news of Jesus with those who don't know him. I watch several Catholic and Orthodox KZbin channels. And I thank you for explaining what some of your unique doctrines and practices are about. Jesus is Lord. Thanks again.

[@rockroc1]

Sam Shamoun's Bible studies have been instrumental in my becoming Catholic. Have him back on. He's an excellent apologist and teacher. Best of all he gives all glory to God for what he does.

[@sandstorm7768]

I wish I had known more about Catholicism when I was still Lutheran. I wouldn't have called veneration of Mary or intercessory prayers pagan or necromancy, but I think I might've found it weird and had issue with it. But then you realize "Hail Mary, full of grace" is how Angel Gabriel himself greeted Mary. And the Apostle's Creed says "we believe in the Communion of Saints," which is the supernatural connection between all believers past and present. I somehow never stopped to ask what these things meant, because I was simply never told about them. Funny that.

[@Dutchfin]

That was a very good ad transition… well done…

[@TheTradDadShow]

Strange how we ask others to pray for us, but wouldn't do it when the same people are in the presence of God.

[@ninjason57]

There's a difference between asking for prayers from a person and praying to a person. Most Catholics won't make this distinction.

[@hamie7624]

​@@ninjason57 no there isn't To pray literally means to make a request of someone. So to pray to a saint is simply just requesting prayers form them. Just like prayers to God are requesting his grace and favors. A simple understanding of what words mean helps.

[@ninjason57]

@ You've fallen into the etymological fallacy.

[@TheTradDadShow]

@ninjason57 we don't pray to saints like we pray to Jesus. We ask for a saints help in praying to God

[@hamie7624]

@@ninjason57 it's only a fallacy if it isn't true. And saying "that's a fallacy" isn't something automatic argument ender. You have to defend your point. What I said is objectively true. You're confusing prayer and worship. You can legitimately pray to God and saints to same way, but you can't worship saints like God. That's the fundamental error prots make.

[@TheMOV13]

When objectors use the word "necromancy" I find it hard to keep cool.....

[@manny75586]

Sam is openly Catholic after a brief stop in Orthodoxy, but he is still very open to the Orthodox folks.

[@erlemartincarvalho1733]

Excellent Vid..Praise Him always..❤

[@housecry]

Yes, please invite Sam Shamoun.

[@josefmudrak7322]

I want to to see new catholic Sam on Pints.

[@elizabetha3906]

Yes please have Sam on ❤

[@KeystotheRock-m4q]

Sam's exegesis of scripture is top tier. Sam is a warrior of Christ and you should DEFINITELY have him back on your show.

[@RMCFHassan]

YES get Sam Shamoun on!

[@alisterrebelo9013]

Get Sam back on please. I owe most of my Bible knowledge and strengthening of the Catholic faith listening to him.

[@cSheZillA]

What about Luminous Mysteries?

[@denniiis47]

Bring in Sam ! 🙏✝️

[@jeremysmith7176]

4:50 knowing that in my own liurgy we don't go a paragraph or sentence without quoting scripture or referring to an idea from scripture, I would be surprised if the East's liturgies were any different in the frequency scripture use.

[@borealopelta7284]

Question, my grandma is a catholic and she said that it is a mortal sin to miss mass on New Years now. Is this true?

[@AJKPenguin]

Sam, I believe, is Chaldean or Assyrian Catholic. Please correct me should I be wrong.

[@clarekuehn4372]

Please have Sam on.

[@AlexC-dr5qb]

Have sam on please, its been too long

[@JILAG4137]

Please get Sam on the show 🙏

[@JoshuaKizer-ie7zl]

Good explanation of the rosary. I don’t say as many Glory Be’s though. 😅 Awaiting the Sam Shamoun episode asap! Always a certain cringe factor with Sam it seems, but should it be any different when you’re correcting and preaching against false faiths and heretical beliefs of the world?

[@thisis_chavez]

A Deliverance Prayer By the power of the Precious Blood, by the Name of Jesus and by the intercession of Blessed Virgin Mary, St. Joseph, St. Michael the Archangel, all Holy Angels and Saints. I command the demon of (state the problem youre having) to stop afflicting me, my ancestor, my family, my cherished loved ones, my descendants, and all members of the Catholic Church, and go to the foot of the cross to receive your sentence. Amen

[@Sue_Mc_Coy]

Please get Sam on the show.

[@releammaster]

Sam is the best

[@dianeangel7171]

Sam is between the Catholic Church and orthodox. He always talks about the old churches

[@clarekuehn4372]

No, he's Catholic but is listening to some Eatern "Orthodox" debaters.

[@andrewbangs9073]

Wow he's allowed to smoke huh, its a vice though 🙄

[@CatholicKit]

So is eating junk food and drinking soda. There is no moral wrong in smoking insofar as no one is being given second hand smoke unwillingly.

[@andrewbangs9073]

@CatholicKit how do you say that there's no wrong in portraying this act when people or even children would see this and think that "oh it's to okay to smoke in a talk show huh" When doctors worldwide and their teachers at school publicly informs them that smoking is bad to ones health and causes many types of cancers 🙄😑 thoughts to ponder on bro😎

[@Dutchfin]

@@andrewbangs9073Eating sugar is also unhealthy but necessarily immoral. Only when done to excess does it become a sin same with smoking. Hope that helps God Bless!

[@andrewbangs9073]

@@Dutchfin eating sugar in front of many people specially to children's eyes doesn't make it an off or bad example compare to smoking wherein many children turning to adults when they see this act tend to think on themselves that it's okay to do it too because adults do it also! And then the cycle of vice goes on unto the next generation. If this one doesn't count to you as an "excess" therefore categorized it as a sin already, then I don't know what is to satisfy your knowledge about this matter. Hope this one helps you to understand too. God bless🙏

[@peggyvorse1461]

Yes, we can call Mary blessed but we only are supposed to pray to one person the father, the son and the Holy Spirit. They are one.

[@CatholicKit]

@@peggyvorse1461 Mary does not grant the prayers nor is she the object of worship, she is an intercessor to Christ on our behalf, just as your pastor, family or friends are if you ask them to pray for you. She is special among the saints as the mother of our Lord. Christ is the Great Intercessor and the only connection between man and God on this side of eternity, but we have countless intercessors to Christ in our every day life and in Heaven. Much love for you, and hope you look more into Catholicism/Orthodoxy and find the immense love Christ gave to us through His Church. God bless!

[@miriba8608]

What authority of your church drew that line?

[@zacharynelson5731]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say “you will not ask the saints in heaven to pray for you” Nowhere in the Bible does it say “prayer to equals worship of”

[@muriel2267]

@@zacharynelson5731as long as you hold onto the man made tradition of bible alone, you will never see the fullness of the truth. Ironically it’s all there in the Bible

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

You skipped the Fatima prayer. Your rosaries are therefore shooting blanks. Hahahaha God bless.

[@ninjason57]

Ephesians 6:18 Pray in the Spirit at all times in every prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert and always persevere in supplication for all the saints. (New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition) Im sorry but it doesnt say "TO" all the saints (@2:05) it says "FOR" all the saints which has vastly different implications. Make whatevever arguments you want but if you want to reach protestants you'll automatically lose all validity if you misquote scripture.

[@sarahwelsh8157]

I don’t think Sam is catholic because I watched a video recently where he was telling a Muslim how Mary went on to have other kids and listed his ‘brothers’, blah

[@takmaps]

That would be impossible because currently Sam believes all Marian doctrines given by Catholic church, he actually defends Mary's perpetual virginity. I say this as a guy who was blocked by him

[@sarahwelsh8157]

@ really! That’s baffling then, I wonder why he was going on about her having more children (such as his cousin James) to a Muslim? Maybe I’ll try and dig the video out tomorrow but I remember it put me off him when I saw it 😂

[@Sirach_5_11]

​@@sarahwelsh8157Maybe it was an ooooold video of when he was a Calvinist?

[@Iffmeister]

It was probably an old video​@sarahwelsh8157

[@EasternChristian1988]

There is something so cringe about contemporary Catholic apologists and podcasters (especially the trads for some reason) who think it's so masculine to smoke cigars or drink whiskey while doing apologetics. "Look how manly we are because we wear tweed suits to the latin mass and grow gay looking 1800s style beards while smoking cigars and drinking whiskey. We're so trad." It's a weird form of prelest.

[@pintswithaquinas]

You’re right, so cringe. Next time I’ll get out my knitting needles.

[@EasternChristian1988]

@@pintswithaquinas That would be better than this wanna be masculinity contemporary rc apologists are pushing trying to boost the image of the highly emasculated rc church.

[@ProfesserLuigi]

You're right. Everyone knows real men smoke pipes and drink stout.

[@EasternChristian1988]

@ Real men don't smoke or drink at all. They recognize that their bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit and treat it accordingly.