WHY I USE 24 FPS (24P) 🎞 | Which frame rate should you use?

[@JimmyTurboMods]

One other benefit of using lower FPS is that you get more light into each frame. So you can shoot at a better ISO setting in low light.

[@diman4010]

That's a good point, right. But it depends on shutter, not just on fps. So you can easily use 30 with 1/50 shutter speed in low light conditions. But you should mind lights flickering that may become visible.

[@idahofallsmagazine3691]

You're talking about less than a third of a stop.

[@wrusst]

@@diman4010 depends on your country however at 30fps according to RED 50/1 is a safe shutter universally. My phone I can change to 80mb per sec at 30fps at 1080 and higher at 4k so not sure how that's an issue

[@diman4010]

@@wrusst yes, 1/50 can be safely used for everything, but in case of smooth enough 30 fps it produces additional amount of blur, which makes the picture even smoother. That's fine for the lowlight conditions, but it would be better to use 1/60 in daylight I believe. Of course if there is no flickering lights in the frame. As for your phone: if you have an Android phone, you can use OpenCamera app to get bitrates up to 200 Mbits/s, kill oversharpening and awful noise reduction etc. UI is not user friendly thou.

[@wrusst]

@@diman4010 I've read several articles on blur and seen pictures recently . 25p 30fps and 50fps all seem to have the same blur if the shutter is set at 1/50. Search the 180 degree shutter myth the videos are in the article . Also in Europe 30fps at 1/60 picks up all the light stobing and is a bad idea as electricity is a different hz. I took several vids of my tank today and 30 at 60 was the worse settings by far

[@TexpatOTG]

I just changed to 30fps after making over 130 videos for KZbin ... I have a recent video on my channel about why I did change. For other work I do I what my project needs or demands . If the finished result you achieve is what you want, then you're using the right frame rate. Good show, enjoyed it.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

HEY, if you want your 30fps to look a little more natural like 24p does (mostly in motion blur) be sure to have the shutter speed set to 1/48, 1/50, or 225 degrees. You get the smoothness of 30p but that immersed feel of 24p.

[@djazz0]

24p also lets in more light than 60p, assuming you use a 180 degree shutter speed (48 and 120 respectively)

[@eviltango]

Extremely Technical question: eg. At 1:55 (trucking shot with rocks). If you pause the video and scroll through frame by frame with the "Punkt und Komma" buttons, every fourth frame seems to have a slightly larger sideways movement. This "jump" is kinda visible when playing it in normal speed. I've noticed the same thing in my clips shot at 24fps. Why is that?

[@dance2jam]

New to video. I realize you are using Fujifilm to shoot video, but when I looked up the specs on the Nikon Z9 (4K, 8K, RAW or H.265) the bitrates are the same for 24p and 30p. Putting the "feel" and "mood" that you are trying to achieve aside, wouldn't that typically mean that the faster frame rate (i.e. 30p) with faster shutter speed assuming 180 shutter angle, look cleaner and show more sharper detail - all other things being equal (i.e. same ISO)?

[@TravelHere]

I'm a beginner and I'm still figuring out what frame rates fits my filming style the most. When I record in 24 FPS my footage gets extremely choppy :(

[@pascalbasel]

You probably move your camera too fast. Also 180 Degree rule helps.

[@TravelHere]

@@pascalbasel I like to do camera movements. I guess I have to use 60 fps instead of 24.

[@pascalbasel]

No one needs 60p. You must do something else wrong.

[@SantiagoMonroy5]

Use 1/48 or 1/50 shutter speed

[@diman4010]

@@TravelHere stick with 30 fps, 1/60 shutter speed

[@multigamingg9369]

24fps feels bad in video games but not in movies while 60fps feels good in video games but not in movies

[@pascalbasel]

💯

[@darklight4815]

24fps looks so nice and cinematic ,that's why I like it,but now I guess I know the tech reasons behind it as well..thank you for your explanation.

[@pascalbasel]

You’re welcome

[@nyobunknown6983]

I don't like 24fps because it looks less realistic. The Cinematic look is due to being less realistic but we have become used to it.

[@MalabarDreamsonlinestore]

But what about sow down the videos .. is it better 60fps for slow right or 24

[@pascalbasel]

You can't slow down 24p. Your recording framerate must be higher as the project/exporting framerate. So a 60p clip can be slowed down to 40% on a 24p timeline.

[@MalabarDreamsonlinestore]

Thnx buddy .. .

[@steve_seguin]

I don't think video compression math works that way.... Lets say you are shooting with long-GOP, with lets say 1- every 2 seconds, that will be nearly 3 to 10-times smaller in size than doing all intra-frame capture. On the GH5 for example, the all-intra capture mode is 400mbps, versus the 150mbps of its long-GOP mode. If the GOP-rate is unchanged between 24p and 30p mode, (1 key frame per 2 seconds), that lower frame rate doesn't offer 30% more bit quality, but more like 5% more bit quality. This is because most of the bitrate cost goes towards the keyframe, and both 24 and 30fps video can have the same amount of keyframes. It does depend on how the video encoder is setup, but just something to consider. Even if you were shooting with Intra-frames only, then the math *might* hold up, but even though by that logic you might as well take photographs at 8-fps. Motion is data -- and by shooting at a lower frame rate you lose that additional motion data. We see this with slow-mo video -- those extra frames are valuable data. Lastly, you can shoot raw; why limit yourself to just 100mbps even? Lots of cameras are doing 150mbps or even 400mbps. External recorders can do 4:4:4 even.

[@diman4010]

You are totally right here: this math doesn't work that way for interframe codecs like h.264 and h.265. I did my own testt with 60 fps footage and with the same footage, exported at 30 fps. With constant QUALITY factor instead of bitrate. I got just about +20% bigger file in case of 60 fps. I trust THAT math, not this filmmakers misconception.

[@steve_seguin]

@@diman4010 20% ? Hrm, good to know. Thanks for the reply.

[@diman4010]

@@steve_seguin also, 24 fps is bad for videos because of judder. You can search on yt for "why 24 fps is not the best frame rate for youtube" or for "judder rtings" to get the point.

[@BONLEV]

we made our first long low budget movie. I have shot always in 50P (living in Europe) and had slowdown some scenes in post to 50%. But now they want to burn it on a blu ray in 24p to show it to the public. Is this a good idea? I think the slowmo will not look good.

[@RotPhalkun]

I work with film back in my days. Did you know that not all Hollywood film shoot in 24fps? Hollywood shoot film in 12, 16, 21, 24, 30, 48 and up to 300fps. The Black Panther shot 21, 24, 48 and 300fps.

[@pascalbasel]

Yeah try 12 😉

[@milkcoffee-h8g]

I'm a beginner, can you make tutorial video on how to make cinematic video with only 24 fps clip ? . I want to make a cinematic video with only 24 fps clip avaiable, thank you

[@MrRobbyF]

Hey Pascal, does 24fps apply to drones for b-roll shots? I mean mostly nature or without people in the shot. I am using the Mavic Air. Thanks!

[@pascalbasel]

Sure, you shouldn’t mix different framerates. So all your cameras, including drones should use the same framerate.

[@MrRobbyF]

So this means normally no slow motion in drone shots?

[@pascalbasel]

Robenie Fernandez Why? You record in 60fps and slow it down to 40% speed and you get 24fps.

[@FollowTheHeards]

Really helpful advice mate! This has definitely helped me along the way :)

[@pascalbasel]

Awesome bro, nice to hear 👍🏻

[@opixtm]

does youtube support playback in 24 Fps?

[@amjadqadoumi5200]

Hi there! I do live in Europe and i use to shoot my film in 25 fps, how can i be sure that my film come out without any issues regarding to other frame retes?

[@SalveMonesvol]

You can't.

[@hmedia310]

please tell me 25 frames per second and 24 big difference? not only in the frames, but I understand in the colors and in general the quality is different. PAL and NTSC are different.

[@laurenthenry]

You get more motion blur with 24fps, but it's very subtle. No difference in quality or color. PAL and NTSC are just standards fo diffusion, that's it. It means that if your content is displayed on US TV, it's required to shoot in 30p. But now that almost all the content we produce go to social media, YT, FB, IG etc...it doesn't matter as much as before the internet era. I'm in France and I can watch on my laptop 24fps, 25fps, 30fps, 50 fps 60 fps video on YT without a problem

[@MikeSmale]

Thanks for the video. I recently experimented with 24fps but found my footage came out choppy when using 60fps exported on a 24fps timeline. I love the look of 24fps but had to switch back to 30fps because of the choppy issue. Take a look at my first 4 Cornwall vlogs to see my point, mainly on the drone footage. Any advice appreciated, thanks again!

[@pascalbasel]

Just move your camera more slowly and stick to the 180 degree rule for more motion blur. Looks less choppy then.

[@diman4010]

+Mike Smale yes, your footage came out choppy when using 60fps exported on a 24fps timeline because of a simple math: 60 is not dividable to 24 evenly. In a result, there are unregulary dropped frames. But there is the thing with 24 fps footage which is playing back on a typical 60 Hz monitor - 60 is not dividable to 24 evenly, so there is irregularyty in frame duplication which happens inside that monitor to display 24 frames 60 times. The "magic" of that 24 fps is very very overrated. People who teaching this world how to get that cool cinematic look just don't know the math and engineering basics. Don't ruin your footage just because someone told that "24 is a Hollywood standard so you need to shoot in 24".

[@tomarse84]

Yes, diman is absolutely right. This 24 fps myth is only that, a myth. 24 fps makes sense for cinema where the display rate is 48 Hz. On a 60 Hz screen (most smartphones, computer monitors, tvs) 24 p comes out less smooth and more choppy and definitely NOT more cinematic. With drone footage with all the pans and shifts and tilts it gets very obvious, in other footage less so.

[@henriquecristo]

Hi Pascal, nice video mate! What are your thoughts about shooting at 30fps and slowing it down to 80% in order to fit a 24fps grid? Does it really translate into a smoother footage? Is it worthed? It seems to be a trend this days specially with drone footage.

[@pascalbasel]

Thanks mate, it gets a little bit smoother but not much. I don’t see a reason to do it internally. But if you accidentally shot in 30 definitely slow it down to 80% as otherwise it looks pretty weird.

[@henriquecristo]

@@pascalbasel The weird thing is I tried to do that by adding a 30 fps clip on a 24fps timeline in FCPX (slowing it down to 80% by using "auto speed") and it looked supper choppy. Not sure why. I fixed it by applying interpolation but it looks like every third frame or so was being repeated... Anyway, I think I will just shoot everything in 24fps from now on :)

[@BrycnSpycn]

What is the best frame rate for POV action shots? I’m not slowing down my footage so idk if I really need 60fps

[@pascalbasel]

If you don’t slow it down 24,25 or 30. Depends on what you like and where you live.

[@BrycnSpycn]

Pascal Basel I’ll try 24 then thanks 👍

[@chaud3013]

@@BrycnSpycn use 60, even 30fps without slowing down looks choppy, I mean, it is POV action shots, lower framerates on that type of shots will make them terrible

[@frameowlstudio2543]

What about shooting a music video on 60 fps , just because I need slowmo scenes , after that converting 60fps to 24 fps for the footage

[@pascalbasel]

24p is the publishing frame rate. Of course for slow motion you have to shoot in a higher frame rate like 60 or 120p.

[@frameowlstudio2543]

@@pascalbasel does conversion make any issues to the video , as I'm converting remaining 60fps to 24fps

[@pascalbasel]

@@frameowlstudio2543 No

[@TheBeggFamily]

24 vs 25 FPS is not so clear. We have PAL in the UK and 50hz mains lighting, so I get less beating in night lighting with 25fps than 24. But I take your point about 60fps which has a better relationship with 24 then 25fps! Thanks for some nice simple explanations

[@pascalbasel]

It’s not about the framerate but about the shutterspeed regarding flickering lights. So 24p and shutter 50 is perfect.

[@TheBeggFamily]

@@pascalbasel Thanks. I'll do some trials. On my large cameras (G80/85 and LX10/15), I've made a Custom setting with Shutter priority. I don't have any ND filters, so don't fix the aperture on those cameras, but the DJI Osmo Pocket has a fixed aperture out of the box, so I NEED ND filters to be able to fix the shutter speed. As yet I can't afford them (imprending cruise will take all our spare cash), but when I get home after the cruise I'll be going for it. Thanks!

[@pascalbasel]

The Begg Family Antics don’t worry too much about the 180 degree rule. Most people don’t recognize it anyway. Most of my shots are actually not 180 degree and no one complains... just stick to it whenever you can but don’t go crazy about it.

[@southofthethames]

One issue is the monitor you are going to view the video on. Even in the PAL countries they seem to be Refresh Rate of 60HZ or multiples of (Desktops/Laptop/mobile phones). 24fps plays not as smooth as 30fps or 60fps. Same for all pal videos 25/50fps is not as smooth. Would a very high refresh rate (such as 140hz) play all smoothly, that is 24/25/30/50/60fps?

[@ivan90988ify]

Thank you! But what about flicker with 50Hz lamps and 24fps?

[@pascalbasel]

Thanks, flicker is about the shutter speed not the frame rate. You can either use the deflicker option in your camera or adjust the shutterspeed until the flicker disappears. It’s not a big deal if you use 60 instead of 50 shutterspeed. No one will see the difference...

[@bryankerbow7871]

Would anyone in the comment thread have an opinion on 24fps v 30fps when shooting in night vision? Im new to videography so please be gentle. Lol. I do alot of night vision recording. Oh and how would i find out my bitrate? I hope thats the right term to use when referring to the mbps he was talking about.....Thanks and its nice to find a group like this that is here for sharing information especially when im new to this. Ive always wanted to get into this but I've just never been at a point in my life where I could. Now i can and I have discovered a passion i never knew i had!

[@pascalbasel]

24 and 25 fps are the better options in low light as they allow a lower shutterspeed. However, 1/50 and 1/60 shutter is not a big difference and depending on the Hz of the lights around you, you might have to adjust anyway to avoid flicker. So use your normal framerate that you always use and adjust the rest to the situation. 24/25 gives you more flexibility if you don’t have a standard framerate yet. For bitrate, always the highest possible.

[@Amsyar00]

People have different preference, but when you talk about the megabit, i finally understand why people record in 24fps other than cinematic reason

[@wangvilin7648]

because you like the stutter and judder feeling with 24fps ,30fps it's stable without stutter.60fps it's smoothness. that's the main reason .

[@pascalbasel]

Yes that’s called cinematic. 30fps looks too smooth.

[@diman4010]

Yes, that's so called "cinematic stutter", right. Facepalm.

[@squirrelnetwork]

Gotta agree with Pascal here. 30fps looks like a sitcom

[@anhonestreviewer7015]

Pascal Basel the problem with 24fps on a drone is that the video has a slight stutter which takes away from the cinematic effect. I saw a video on KZbin where someone recorded in 30fps and converted it to 24fps - which helped get around the stutter issue.

[@StevoHDA]

Actually judder has never been an issue until the world moved to lcds with sample and hold frames, essentially the lower the frame rate the more the judder because of image persistence. This was a non-issue with plasmas and especially crts because frames were only up for a split second then following by darkness for awhile (black frame) until the next frame. Even projectors before crts had a shutter to create black inbetween frames.. and if you look at history, you'll find that 24 was scientifically found to be the best framerate for various reasons. Consumerism has somewhat tainted immensely how we view media and moving to higher fps isn't the solution, changing the technology is, like black frame insertion on the 2020 oleds.

[@idahofallsmagazine3691]

4:25 Fair point, but you probably should have mentioned that the television broadcast standard in the U.S. is still NTSC (29.97).

[@nanopone]

most displays are 60hz and 24 does not go into 60, meaning you get stutter from a 24fps video. a 30fps video would just show 1 frame for 2 frames to fit into that 60hz refresh rate, but a 24fps video would have to fit 1 frame into 2.5 frames, which is impossible, meaning the display has to alternate between showing a frame for 2 frames and 3 frames, which causes and stutter and inconsistency.

[@pascalbasel]

Modern displays can adjust their framerates. And even on mold ones, stutter is mostly visible if the camera moves too fast or there's not enough motion blur...

[@MattYellowhorse]

You need more subs! This was very informative and easy to understand

[@pascalbasel]

Thank you, totally aggree 👍🏻😄

[@kevins8575]

Good video, but I think that sticking to the 100 year old compromise of 24 fps is more romanticism than science.

[@squirrelnetwork]

Depends on the subject. A car commercial? Yes, higher frame rate. But for films higher framerates lose the blur and come across looking like a behind the scenes video (usually, though some folks have pulled it off)

[@johnmartin7781]

Please, watch Filmmaker IQ videos on the topic of HFR cinema.

[@matrixate]

To be honest, the main reason why people shoot 24 is for minimizing size and load on the CPU in post, with cinematic look being a close second. However, you do make a good point about the quality per frame but to be honest, most cameras today don't have discrepancies in the quality between 24 and 60fps...well, most prosumer cameras at least. Still, I shoot 24 in 4k because the fewer frames over 2 hours makes a difference. Short 4 minute YT videos though...I would say, the standard is leaning toward 4k@60fps except for cinema shorts. I mean, why would manufacturers put so much effort in making it a standard if people weren't evolving toward it?

[@ALxdCr4ftPlays]

30fps has already become the standard. 24fps is old school. Samsung smartphones like the galaxy S8/9/10 series don't do 24fps they only have a 30fps or 60fps option. And 30fps offers smoother footage than 24fps. The upside with 24fps with Canon and Sony is 30fps 4k recording occurs a crop in the video, where as 24fps there is no crop in video recording. Which is why some people use 24fps because they wan't the wider video. 24fps is definitely not ideal for time lapse videos unless you enjoy choppy videos. For time lapse, you want at least 60fps.

[@pascalbasel]

Interesting, never recognized that any of my timelapses are choppy. Thanks for warning us about Samsung. Canon already got a huge shitstorm for not having 24p in some of their cameras, so they added it afterwards.

[@nicholasholcomb9461]

Does shooting at a lower frame rate really increase the bitrate of the frames?

[@pascalbasel]

It depends on the camera of course and how it handles that. But generally yes.

[@nicholasholcomb9461]

@@pascalbasel I've also heard that shooting at a higher frame rate increases the video bitrate. Is it better to shoot 4K video at 24 or 30 fps?

[@diman4010]

@@nicholasholcomb9461 it depends on your camera / app. But if we talk about THE QUALITY PER BITRATE, In case of h264/h265 codecs things much more complicated rather than just averaging things. You can't say, that you need 20% more video bitrate to preserve same quality in case of 30 fps instead of 24/25. In fact you need these 20% for a DOUBLED amount of framerate. So the quality drop for 30 fps vs 24 fps with the same bitrate is barely noticeable if any. But the stutter / judder that 24 fps comes with is a problem. Stick with 30 until your clients ask you differently.

[@rashpalsagoo11]

Do you get a different result when you shoot 25fps though edit and output at 24fps ?

[@pascalbasel]

It will skip one frame every second. Can look weird. Just test it.

[@teoavila.]

So, the project and publishing FPS is 24? and the recording is 24- 60 depending the need?

[@pascalbasel]

For me yes

[@thanoseolios8281]

My friend, thank you for this video, thumbs up from me! But your moving shots where choppy (1:51 to 1:55)! So why should you use 24 fps if your camera processor can't handle it?

[@pascalbasel]

Thanks, but that has nothing to do with the processor. 24p obviously needs less processing power than 30p or 60p. That choppiness can happen if the camera is moved a bit too fast and has more to do with frame rate differences between the video and monitor.

[@MTBs]

That's why I never use 24 fps, but 30 fps. Hate choppy footage! Can be fixed to some extent with faffing around with ND-filters though. For faster action footage, 30 fps is the way to go in my opinion.

[@k2mfitness441]

Hi there, love your videos! Been super helpful. Recently acquired a GH5 and I was wondering what settings/recording format do you use for VLOGing and how do you go about the autofocus?

[@pascalbasel]

Thanks, I use 4K60 V-LOG, MOV and all manual. Here is how I focus: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIaci4B-pZ1lgsU

[@mozinoz_digital]

Jeff Bourke KZbin converts all its content to 24p until recently now there’s 60p? But it is any there a discernible difference for average youtube viewer, perhaps?

[@pubudubatagoda7836]

can i shoot to 60fps and after that convert to cinematic 24fps look ?

[@pascalbasel]

You can slow it down to 24p and convert but only convert doesn’t make any sense.

[@djazz0]

No, the shutter speed is different.

[@naru4real31]

well I m in problem bro, all my travelling videos are in 24 fps by default because they all recorded through iPhone, so if I am adding some speed ramps or slow motions it's getting flicker / double image or u can say ghosting effect! it not smooth at all in slow motion at 60% how do I solve this?

[@pascalbasel]

You can’t slow down 24 fps. Just let the playback speed be normal. For slow motion you must record in high fps (60+).

[@naru4real31]

Pascal Basel so i can add 60fps slow motion and 24 fps real time clips together in same sequence?? Because i was trying get real time and slow motion effect together in one clip with speed ramp effect! Somehow i m failing to get it

[@pascalbasel]

Yes sure

[@KN-mi7mh]

The only thing I get upset over in 24 is the jitter thing and I find hard to fix it

[@pascalbasel]

Don’t pan too fast and if it’s still a problem use ND filters for natural motion blur. Also here, most people don’t notice it if there’s a bit jitter in some clips.

[@kristoffseisler2163]

Why no one using 20fps instead of the odd number 24? 20fps adds up evenly to 60 which is the hz on most pc monitors and phones

[@pascalbasel]

Try it and you will see. 24 is the minimum for the human eye to not see stuttering footage.

[@whabmedia9288]

Thanks for reviewing Suali is if I wanted to make a movie and I want in the same movie to make some clips in the movie Slow Motion and when I upload it to the site how is that and what is the frame rate in the second appropriate for that

[@pascalbasel]

Thanks, just edit in 24p and record in 60 or 120p. Then you can slow the clips down to 40 or 20%.

[@whabmedia9288]

@@pascalbasel thanks man

[@kuda2010]

@@pascalbasel what if you edit in 60fps and then export in 24? Does it make a diff

[@gorgar6059]

24fps with 1/50 shutter speed gives much better movement impression and more natural motion blur. For me that is main reason. Thats most important thing that makes cinematic look.

[@bryankerbow7871]

Oh and one more question... Can anyome recommend an affordable, user friendly video editing software for a novice such as myself? I have 2 windows tablets that both have the video editor software built in. Is the windows video editor a good software? I am about to be filming my first of many documentary style films and i would like for the final product to look professionally made and edited. I dont want cheesy fade outs or left to right slide outs...i want it to look good.

[@pascalbasel]

I don’t think there are many good apps on Windows tablet. Better get an iPad with LumaFusion or MacBook Pro/Mac Mini. A good free software that runs on Mac, Windows and Linux is DaVinci Resolve.

[@bryankerbow7871]

@@pascalbasel thank you for the advice. The problem with using an ipad is that every one of my 8 camcorders are windows based and specifically say in the manuals that they womt work qith apple iOS... I couldnt afford to buy very expensive cameras so i went to ebay and bought the chinese made 4k and FHD camcorders like the Besteker and Ansteker and Hausbell brands and all of those are windows only compatible...

[@pascalbasel]

There you have it. Instead of 8 camcorders get 1-2 real cameras 😉

[@bryankerbow7871]

@@pascalbasel i wanted to experiment with different varities. Thats why i bought so many

[@alieazzy1631]

Question - if I shoot all my clips on 60fps and dropped it on 24fps timeline and I want it to give it a look of 24fps what should I be doing? Slowing it down? If yes the how much?

[@pascalbasel]

You won't get the actual 24P look. Therefore you have to shoot 24P. But you can slow it down to 40% if you want to for slow motion.

[@alieazzy1631]

@@pascalbasel that’s what my understanding is but I taught there is way when I slow down the 60fps to 80 percent slow to get similar look while keeping my moments really slow. Anyhow thanks

[@ronaldwolf2599]

So well explained. Question of frame right has always been questionable. Thanks.

[@pascalbasel]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@balintvincze9061]

1:56 I think slowing down an originally 60 fps footage to a 24 fps slomo results a choppy video, because of inconsistent loss of frames. Here is the resulted distribution of frames and pair matching: 60 fps frames: [1-loss] [2-kept] [3-loss] [4-loss] [5-kept] [6-loss] [7-kept] [8-loss] [9-loss] [10-kept] [11-loss] [12-kept] ... [58-loss] [59-loss] [60-kept] 24 fps frames: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] ... [30] Slowing a 60 fps to 30 fps is shows a consistent matching, therefore a smooth video result: 60 fps frames: [1-loss] [2-kept] [3-loss] [4-kept] [5-loss] [6-kept] ... [59-loss] [60-kept] 30 fps frames: [1] [2] [3] ... [30]

[@pascalbasel]

Then a lot of my videos would be choppy... most of the time 60p is slowed down to 40%. So every frame is shown in the final video.

[@pascalbasel]

Of course you don’t slow down to 50 but to 40%...

[@balintvincze9061]

Check out this video, there is the explanation what I mean: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4m7hZ16jdlqo9k

[@nwe2009]

This is one of the many reasons why you shoot at 30fps.

[@kinggore5229]

But there's not enough motion blur in your vid. When there's a big movement, it feels quite laggy.

[@pascalbasel]

Yeah, broke my ND filter before...

[@lucarmin9683]

Your videos have such a great quality that we could see the insect crawling on you before you said it

[@ArvinG]

What's better to use for cinematic video? 4k 30fps or 1080 60fps?

[@tonycarrera69]

24fps! 60 and higher for slowmo only

[@idahofallsmagazine3691]

30

[@benwyatt7619]

24 FPS

[@marknoel1236]

I hope someone will notice my comment. Lately i've have been shooting in 24fps on my iphone camera and i want to put it on a 23.976 timeline, But when i drag it in premiere it says "Clip Does not match the sequence settings" what should i do? I would highly appreciate your reply.

[@pascalbasel]

Change the sequence settings or just use the footage as it is. This small speed change won't be noticed.

[@ChrisMeuzelaar1]

Hi Pascal, what lens are you using to get that nice soft background on the GH5 and which polariser please? great videos, really enjoy looking at other parts of the world!

[@pascalbasel]

Chris Meuzelaar Hi Chris, I used the Panasonic 25mm F1.7 for these shots. The polarizer is from Gobe. But there are much better polarizers out there, Hoya for instance. Thanks, what topics would you also e interested in?

[@ChrisMeuzelaar1]

Thanks very much for the reply Pascal :) An in depth long term review on the GH5 would be great with your thoughts on its stills capability, what is good, what could be better. I want to produce better quality videos for my farming business with stills also for social media and am still not sure about micro four third versus APS-C and full frame. I like the idea I can do slow motion for machinery and 4k for that crisp look and that it is weather sealed so it can go in a dusty or wet field all in one package. I'm also curious about underwater housings, filming and photography underwater. Thanks again for the reply!

[@pascalbasel]

I think better for my audience would be a video about how to set up the GH5 to get cinematic travel footage, as there are already many reviews out there. What do you think about that? For your farming business, the GH5 should be good, but if you shoot a lot of stills, look at the GH5s. It's without the sensor stabilization, but its low light capabilities are just awesome... For underwater, I would recommend using the GoPro.

[@ChrisMeuzelaar1]

Sounds like a very good idea! Lots of short ones maybe.... style, grading and luts? , I fell asleep during a long one recently, happy teaching :)

[@pascalbasel]

Yeah, good idea. Thank you 👍🏻

[@aerialworksimaging8004]

I'm sure you answered this elsewhere, but I'm new to your channel. Do you use a LUTs pack for your B Roll?

[@pascalbasel]

In some of my older videos I used lut packs yes. In my new videos I use my own created luts. And some clips I grade individually.

[@shadowsandfire]

This sounds stupid but why not just record at 400-500Mbit/s and get 120fps?

[@baldridgecreative7610]

Nice! What profile setting do you use? Loving Natural or V-Log. But V-Log is more unpredictable.

[@paulaungiers8734]

I have a 29.97fps movie. When I burn it to dvd, which automatically converts it to 25fps, (I can't alter that), my movie comes out slightly jerky! What do I need to do to the movie to make the motion come out onto dvd, looking smooth, please?

[@pascalbasel]

Publish on DVD in 29.97.

[@paulaungiers8734]

@@pascalbasel Thanks for writing. Not sure how you mean?? I use Freemake Video Converter to burn to dvd. As standard it always automatically converts the signals to 25fps, in order to make the dvd. I cannot change that. I have another straight converter software which would let me convert 29.97 to 30fps or 24 or 25 fps. Would any of these help, if I converted the video to one of these first? Which one would you recommend?

[@pascalbasel]

Then the other one

[@paulaungiers8734]

@@pascalbasel Please explain what you mean???

[@pascalbasel]

Use a Dvd converter that lets you write in 29.97.

[@JTR...]

Thanks for your great explanation. Thank You

[@joonajks]

Did you film this KZbin video in 24 frames per second?

[@pascalbasel]

Yes

[@joonajks]

Pascal Basel Wow everything looks so professional!

[@pascalbasel]

Joon kinloch Thank you 👍🏻

[@en4ble773]

Quick question what about shooting in 30 but when importing lower it to 24? Or are you still loosing that image quality at higher rate as you mentioned?

[@pascalbasel]

You can do that, on paper you would loose a bit of quality but not really noticeable for the viewer. Doing that allows you to slow the footage down to 80%. Not a real slow-mo but looks a bit dreamy.

[@tinotrivino]

Vielen dank Pascal, hat MIr sehr geholfen :) Lg aus Toledo, Spanien (von einem ehemaligen Elmshorner) :)

[@pascalbasel]

Danke Tino 👍🏻

[@goksel5012]

thx for the info but pls DONT USE BLACKBARS and how do you use 23.976fps with 60hz displays?

[@pascalbasel]

Why not blackbars? 60hz displays automatically calculate it and display it correctly. Like mentioned in the video today nearly every display plays all kind of footage.

[@goksel5012]

Sorry for the late response but I didn't seen it till now. So a 16:9 display will automaticly make blackbars. It looks diffrent for a TV boradcast (because of watermark or subtitles and compatibility). When it comes to a Webvideo, the player will automaticly generate the Blackbars in fulldisplay mode (tbh. I'm not sure if it is the player or the display itself). But if you use a 21:9 display, you're gonna have blackbars on top, bottom, left and right if there is rendered blackbars in the image: i.imgur.com/9KSXy7v.jpg In this Image, you can see the mater of 24fps on a 60hz display: goo.gl/1dqYYH If you start looking close to things like that, you can realize a small lag. So the display showes you the frames this way: 1,1 | 2,2,2 | 3,3 | 4,4,4 | 5,5 | 6,6,6 24fps works maybe in cinema, but not for consumers. maybe it works with free- or g-sync, but then you need the hardware and money for it. the most viewers are looking videos with their mobile. So that's my opinion. 24fps is just acceptable and can be used for better slowmo effects, but it isn't the "end sh*t". We are just used to it.

[@pascalbasel]

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[@goksel5012]

@@pascalbasel nice, thank you for the link 😁

[@justinhalen2126]

@@pascalbasel not entirely true, majority of 60hz displays will show 24fps by holding every other frame longer (3:2 pulldown) so they actually cant display it correctly, as this causes judder... most modern tvs have certain modes to fix this, but the issue still prevails on laptops, monitors, and phones..etc

[@mobilmobilan2029]

Thx

[@KN-mi7mh]

But do you actually shoot in 24 or you export it in 24?

[@benwyatt7619]

I imagine either shooting in 24 FPS or 48 FPS because recording in 60 FPS and converting to 24 will cause problems

[@pascalbasel]

It depends on the shot. If I don’t need slow mo, 24 and if I might need it, 60.

[@pascalbasel]

Theoretically yes, practically no. Problems are only noticed by video experts, not by normal viewers. Also 40% is a better slow mo than 50%. Definitely noticeable.

[@benwyatt7619]

Pascal Basel I was only guessing to be fair. I wasn’t sure if using a frame rate that is not a multiple of 24 would cause many problems.

[@pascalbasel]

@@benwyatt7619 Yeah, this thought is not wrong. It really depends on what you do with the footage and how it's shot. Slowing 60p down by 50% on a 24p timeline would look weird, but to 40% just looks normal etc.

[@VypaGaming]

I dont see a difference between 24 and 60 fps unless it's in super slow video speed

[@LePhotomentaliste]

24 fps. Ok... but it looks so ugly here because it missed the 180° shutter ;)

[@pascalbasel]

Yes, didn’t have nd filters there...

[@LePhotomentaliste]

@@pascalbasel make sense :)

[@ebenezerakotuah8995]

Hi am using Nikon d7500 for wedding shoot which frame rate should I use

[@pascalbasel]

Depends on what you like and if you’re in a PAL or NTSC country and what your client wants.

[@ebenezerakotuah8995]

@@pascalbasel Am in Ghana, and want smooth and cinematic video 24fps or 30fps

[@ebenezerakotuah8995]

@@pascalbasel Am in Ghana, and i want smooth and cinematic video 24fps or 30fps

[@leminuteur1770]

I use 30 with my old tablet ( and i use 720 × 480 ( NTSC ) resolution video ) . Vith my tablet this is the hell : He have not 24 , 25 , 48 , 50 and 60 fps ... bad .

[@acevalerio6130]

Thank you this is very technical!

[@General111100]

is this g85 camera u used?

[@pascalbasel]

It's the GH5, not the G85. But I had the G85 before and it's also a great camera.

[@yellowsnow5484]

but it judders as crazy ... specially youtube

[@bassmatazzfishing]

Great Info... Thx Video Tops 👍🏼

[@AurelianIrimia]

24fps is choppy! Is you have a cinema camera and you will make a film for cinema, then the 24fps is an option. For online content the 30fps is the standard.

[@pascalbasel]

No, most big creators use 24p. Choppiness comes from panning too fast.

[@AurelianIrimia]

Pascal Basel So I understand that you use and recommend 24fps only because other KZbinrs use and recommend 24fps, not because you liked or is better quality or nice to look at. 24fps are not for the digital content, 24fps is for cinema screen and movie theater use only.

[@pascalbasel]

I use it because I like it more and technically it has better quality.

[@sudarshanpaudel6085]

this is helpful.

[@joelgagne7044]

awesome content! I always have tried to understand what frame rates do to affect the quality of the video you take, but now I know! Thank you

[@pascalbasel]

Thanks bro.

[@stonesnmetals]

Thanks brother for help 🙏🏽

[@satriojtohir9327]

Merciii! Very informative

[@richardpalmer4594]

You have to be a dam good drone pilot to get butter smooth vids in 24 fps. Also wind doesn't help with 24 fps. I love the look but its a challenge.

[@pascalbasel]

Why? To make sure there is no judder etc. you just need fly slowly, especially when you close to objects. Don’t need to be such a good pilot for it...

[@oxxpro]

U jus turn the shutter speed up it will take that out lol

[@capt.gioisidro2650]

Ive learned something today thanks bro!

[@pascalbasel]

Great, glad I was able to help you 👍🏻

[@shadowsandfire]

Well im not a videographer or film maker but damn your video looks crispy so ill take your advise as you look to know what your doing 😀

[@nils_ninja]

24p in the Scenes in which you can See ?

[@pascalbasel]

All of my videos are in 24p

[@Writtenmirror]

Interesting video thank you

[@pascalbasel]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@TravelHere]

As a beginner I think I'm going to use 30, 60 and 120 fps

[@nataliehernandez9691]

FPS mean FRAMES PER SECOND. For beginners, you use 10-20 24 is kinda for pros, and a lot of frames to get a second. Edit: whoops I was thinking about animation

[@YoSoyAlejandroRíos]

excelente...

[@AnandSharon]

In a nutshell .. very nice 👍

[@pascalbasel]

Thank you 👍🏻

[@borgtennis]

Thank you!

[@positiveside9085Youtube]

Nice video

[@Hexspa]

Very nice.

[@ekphotography]

Strange there are no why not shoot at 23.98 comments...?

[@idahofallsmagazine3691]

Here's one: TV broadcast in the U.S. is 29.97.

[@radiozelaza]

music is too loud. thumbs down

[@pascalbasel]

Thanks for boosting the video by commenting 👍🏻

[@radiozelaza]

@@pascalbasel don't worry, I know the workings of algorithms ;)

[@tombraider3586]

The footage in 24 fps looks bad.

[@yehorsanko9241]

Wow, so you're a professional video guy, but rendered a 21:9 video in a 16:9 aspect ratio. From an ultrawide user's perspective: "Thank you very much!"

[@pascalbasel]

On KZbin it is better to do it like that as in 21:9 it doesn’t allow end-screen video suggestions. So yes in that case it’s professional to do that, too.

[@yehorsanko9241]

@@pascalbasel have not expected that, thanks for the explanation. However, since you've chosen to go with an 21:9 aspect ratio, I think it is ok to make some sacrifices. Maybe it's just me, but the end-screen suggestions are not that useful IMO. Also, some may say that I can use a special Chrome extensions in order to stretch the image, but you should have in mind that this is not an option on a smartphone, while many smartphone nowadays have 18:9 (or 18,5 or 19,5) screens which leads to having your video inside a huge black box. By the way, I apreciate what you are doing and the quality of your content is great!

[@pascalbasel]

Yehor Sanko Thanks, end screen suggestions wirk great. I rather sacrifice some 21:9 users than being able to push other videos through this feature. On smartphones you can swipe two fingers out of each other to scale it full-screen. I do that all the time on my iPhone Xr. 😉 But outside of KZbin you’re right.

[@BudarEndario]

I use 25p cuz why not i like it

[@idevicecollectorfilms]

My videos are shot in 30fps but I export at 60fps

[@pascalbasel]

That doesn’t make any sense

[@bibekwagle494]

😂😂😂

[@cruzdaily229]

If you are using 24 FPS you must have better stabilization

[@grainfrizz]

simply because it's cinematic

[@akilghosh]

24p just looks bad in modern television. Whatever processing you do, you will get judder. And it's horrible to watch

[@cliffordtemple6751]

That’s a freaking long intro bro

[@nikchris69]

24p is a judder fest