Why I use autotune

[@Malinda]

Can it be a crutch? Absolutely. Have I had a learning curve with it? Yep! And still do! But it's not a tool to be scared of. It's just physics! If you'd like to support the videos I do then check out my Patreon page :D www.patreon.com/malinda

[@noraeisenman597]

MALINDA ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@ZeldaRoseSongbook]

I stan a queen regardless!

[@IroGraonidou]

❤️

[@David_Thompson]

Very interesting video - thank you! PS I hope you are feeling much better now!

[@sarahlouise6871]

I love you and your videos so much 💜💜 xxxxxx

[@doddleoddle]

heck yeeeeaaaah EDUCATION

[@Paul-px7jh]

Omg hey Dodie!

[@melc.5644]

underrated comment

[@yasirbek2666]

DODEH

[@yasirbek2666]

Congrats on the debute album girl 😌💕

[@ellie.bowers.]

EDUCATION

[@KittiRain]

I watched the entire video with a cat hair on my screen... It gave Malinda a very interesting moustache.

[@JubileeBloom]

The mental image conjured from that is FABULOUS, my friend.

[@danniemclendon1182]

Happens to me all the time with dog hair but we prefer to call it "puppy glitter"

[@KittiRain]

@@danniemclendon1182 That's fantastic!!! Unfortunately I don't think I will get away with calling cat hair "pussy glitter"

[@hannahhannah9166]

@@KittiRain i laughed too hard😂😂😂😂

[@GalacticRose2]

@@KittiRain Oml that is amazing, it made me laugh

[@TheRealBasch]

Emotion always goes above pitch and pitch correction will always fuck with emotion. Listen to Johnny Cash's take on Hurt for example: Much room for improvement vocally but it's perfect. Autotune ruins emotion.

[@musician1971a]

I so agree with every single thing you say here. I use Melodyne all the time, because it's on material that needs it, or a vocalist that records for himself and his friends only and wants it to sound good, I use it on my own voice sparingly, because it just sounds a little better. We're used to it now, there's no shame in it. There was a time when there was no compression, or eq, and people may have called using them "cheating". Tuning is just the next step in perfecting the recordings.

[@DukToonz]

I dunno much of anything about music. My medium is ink and paint. But I’ve gained insight from watching this video that I can apply to my art too. Thank you for that.

[@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk]

Good take on tuning. I think the issue people have with tuning is that we live in a highly enhanced world and we desperately wish for something to remain real. That’s how we end up criticizing the singers for using auto tune. Yet our buying and listening habits favor those who tune, while the purists who try to avoid this loose popularity. So we really don’t give artists much choice. Music is complicated. Do what feels right to you, and what gives you an economic edge. After all, it’s not just a passion, it’s a job as well.

[@Vlican]

learned something new about pop production! i've always wondered why pop today sounds so different than pop of yesterdays

[@margaretka3131]

I can't believe anyone accused you of using autotune and they meant that you cannot sing live without it. I mean people don't know much about singing and recording... but haven't they seen you singing in that church?? You're amazing, Malinda. Thank you for inspiring me every day

[@jannateach7189]

Yes! Physics! thank you! You are amazing.

[@Talik13]

Autotune is to singing what Lightroom is to photos. You can take good photos and good singing and just polish them up or create a mood with unique style.

[@martin-rm8wq]

ummm, could you just run that past me again please?Love you MKR, happy and peaceful new year wishes to you and yours xx

[@thatmeepemmao.o8509]

I am so sorry that people are being so rude to you Milanda, you are amazing! Don't let anyone knock you down!

[@faheemgulzar1]

Love your energy

[@casual-owl]

Oh it's the shaking note thing. Okay, you can stop playing the shakey note now. There we go. It's in tune with itself now. NO NOT THE SHAKY NOTE AGAIN! TUNE IT! TUNE IT! TUNE IT! Oh thank god! My relief... The pains of someone who plays music.

[@elisabethschneider457]

It's the same with Photoshop, everyone thinks it's bad and people only use it to appear thinner when photographers just need to use it for colour grading and stuff

[@marevannierop]

Underrated comment.

[@jamesslick4790]

Yep,!"serious" photographer's use Photoshop (or Gimp and others...) as a tool to do what we used to do in the darkroom.

[@demetraeconomou6096]

Unless if you are a fitness model . You are showing of your ability to overcome body imperfections. Using Photoshop is kind of lying

[@teaartist6455]

And digital artists use/used it.

[@ronniemillsap]

Which is why I stopped being impressed with most photos that are taking nowadays they are

[@jackdavison7515]

I learned three things today: 1. You use tuning software 2. Autotune is not a bad thing 3. I am not as strong in my musical knowledge as I thought I was...

[@alexdiduk4611]

Basically any singer that records in a studio uses tuning

[@astrum376]

Pride?

[@LafayetteSunsetMusic]

exactly same thing here

[@RmDIrSudoSu]

@@alexdiduk4611 Say that to classical signer. ;) they don't, if you don't trust me look at a classical music signer concour, and know that they don't do any tuning. They'll always sing exactly in tune. You've also metal bands like Maiden etc who don't use it at all. You've a nice story about Bruce Dickinson who recorded one sentence from the song "The Number of The Beast" (Iron Maiden for those who don't know who Dickinson is), the sentence was "the evil face that twists my mind and brings me to despair ", the producer was never conviced by it, so he make him do it again and again for more than an hour. The scream you hear just after, wasn't written at all in the lyrics, it's just Bruce screaming '"YHEAAAA" when the producer told him that the take was good.

[@alexdiduk4611]

RmDIr Sudo Su there are obviously exceptions, but basically any music you hear on the radio (which basically rules out heavy rock and classical) will have tuning

[@bee_bch]

Autotune is like makeup for singing.

[@iliketrains5525]

Omg why does that make so much sense

[@MaskinJunior]

A good analogy, because you can use Auto-tune to make a little touch-up, and you can use Auto-tune to make the entire performance into a clown-face.

[@TheKartoffel101]

Exacly but in music there more of thos epeople who have classical paintings at their home, see your Photoshop picture and say a real artist does not need Photoshop to create images. Only those who can't draw or photoshoot right" But I actual would be with that when we gonna talk about actual own serious music and not this here which has to come weekly. I would produce it like the singer has to sing only every verse. So when something inside that is wrong the singer only have to sing the line over and over again till its perfect and not the whole verse or song.

[@SharpDesign]

Makes sense

[@koolkitty108]

Finicky Flutist super random, but hello. I am also a flute player! And a bit of a piccolo player, too.

[@heartoflinnea2131]

As a choir singer, I can also say that you should never underestimate the power of those lower notes. I'm a soprano and we can be quite a loud bunch... (sorry to all altos out there) But if there is no altos, the whole thing would be kinda hard to listen to. And when it comes to bases... at least in my choir it's like you can't always hear them, but you still hear if they're not there... Conclusion: Dropping notes via tuning is 100% okay. You sometimes need those lower notes or it'll all sound weird... XD

[@gcondit]

I accept ur apology - me, an alto

[@merodisan424]

OwO wow, oh and i'm not sad, it's tottaly fine for me (a girl) to be an alto except i got bullied for no reason because of that (what's wrong with an alto girl) but it's fine :v

[@Eclipse_682]

Forgiven-an Alto myself. You are not wrong, Sopranos can be pretty loud.

[@hsmacaraig]

It’s okay! I’m a mix between alto and soprano (depending on time and day) so I get it! My boy classmates can’t sing a high note without shouting, and it does suck but it’s something I’ve done before.

[@fenim5617]

What are this power rangers? Soprano and Alto. Jkk

[@grace5033]

At 9:04 it sounds like she's saying "you're asking for treble." Without puns, life would B flat. Okay, why am I still doing this? This comment is so long i'ts like someone wrote a fermata over it or something. Okay I'll stop now. Or, for all you fellow nerds, I'll "add a double bar line now." lol sorry it's my third year being in my school choir so I gotta hit y'all up with the music puns.

[@Felixr2]

At 9:04 it sounds like she's saying "you're asking for treble." Without puns, life would B flat. Okay, why am I still doing this? This comment is so long i'ts like someone wrote a fermata over it or something. Okay I'll stop now. Or, for all you fellow nerds, I'll "add a double bar line now." lol sorry it's my third year being in my school choir so I gotta hit y'all up with the music puns. Oh, sorry, I thought I saw two dots next to that double bar line. My fault!

[@grace5033]

@@Felixr2 lollllll

[@bc6399]

Grace Wilbourn Whaah whaah whaah whaaaaaaaaah!

[@KarateLauren]

Only music kids will understand lmaoooo

[@internetchocolate6733]

I love this lol

[@MyLifeFastForward]

I feel like I learned so much in this video lol

[@boingooingo3317]

Malinda please be our music teacher-

[@aribelwond1799]

My Life Fast Forward true!

[@milliexp]

clicking the like button at 999 likes was kinda satisfying when it turned to 1K

[@techguypaul]

As an audio engineer, I can hear the difference :) It's also super frustrating because many people equate any vocal effects (reverb, delay, compression, etc.) to autotune. So even if it doesn't sound like you use "autotune" to those of us who know the difference, people just hear any effects they don't like and automatically think you're using autotune. It's more likely their way of saying "I don't like the amount of reverb you used".

[@osza9041]

This. As an audio engineer myself, uninformed comments are the worst.

[@some_Phreak]

Any effect (even autotune) can work if used properly. As someone who falls into the anti camp a lot, i would say it's just about when and how much they're used. Worse than auto-tune for me is hearing too much breath.

[@techguypaul]

@@some_Phreak I'm not here to debate effect usage. The point is that most people just hear an effect they don't like and think it's autotune because of the stigma caused (mainly) by T-Pain.

[@Ignacio.Romero]

I'm not an audio engineer, but I can also hear the pitch correction in some of Melinda's songs. I have nothing against pitch correction but I think Melinda's producer could have tried just a little harder in some parts of some specific songs

[@techguypaul]

@@Ignacio.Romero you don't understand how music production works.

[@mrkillgore9581]

The thing is that she has entertaining videos without the singing

[@robyngair]

I came for the memes and I stay for the themes

[@davidmc8478]

“You’re asking for treble.” I C what you did there.

[@mariaguevara4943]

stop tryna be cool, just say "see"

[@bojidarabatanova4312]

@@MK-hj9de it's a musical pun, dummy

[@bojidarabatanova4312]

@@mariaguevara4943 it's actually a musical pun, dude

[@mariaguevara4943]

@@bojidarabatanova4312 you said "actually" twice and you forgot to say "a" after those 2 actually's...

[@bojidarabatanova4312]

@@mariaguevara4943 Ever heard of autocorrect? I was typing the "a" when it automatically spelled "actually" for me. I'm still right though

[@Wigconic.]

Spill the tea sister, i'm gonna sip and dip my face on that tea

[@billcipher8295]

Iconic your profile picture of Shane fits the comment well

[@bzzybee2203]

Oh, this reminds me that I haven’t had tea yet. Cheers, mate!

[@samanthavictoria3308]

Iconic this comment is my favorite thing

[@JenniferKGraf]

You're everywhere!!!÷

[@emmab1294]

Iconic why do I always see you

[@danielsjohnson]

9:03 anyone else notice she said "you're asking for treble" instead of "trouble"? I love a good wordplay :)

[@ameeelia07]

It must be so annoying to have this misunderstood so often. But this was really educational so I hope you don't have to so it again!♥️

[@alaineneuburger2830]

You've heard of Ihop, prepare for Ihope

[@ameeelia07]

@@alaineneuburger2830 it was supposed to be I hope

[@xelaphantom5241]

Your pic is kawaii

[@TheNoteblockLizard]

Well said! *cues applause*

[@crazysnorlax1199]

Oh my god hi The Noteblock Lizard, you are my fav minecraft youtuber!

[@crimetrademark]

Hi *applause*

[@avalon4294]

Let's talk about that! *plays Good Mythical Morning theme*

[@josie4186]

Alice Roland That's exactly what I thought😂

[@bishomilad72]

hahaha 😂😂

[@billkeithchannel]

I heard of them. They did a flat earth video.

[@soronorjspro3516]

Mostly watch their old channel to listen to da music.

[@haidude903]

Im actually super curious now to hear a version of a song without tuning, and then the version with tuning, just to see the difference that a little bit of tuning could make! I feel as though that would further my understanding! With or without tuning you are a beautiful person and an amazing singer! And either way, as long as the meaning and emotion is still left in the song, then I'm fine! Love you Malinda! ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@kriskelley5216]

Ikm mostly deaf so dont matter

[@g.strobl4458]

I agree very much.

[@TheKartoffel101]

Please do more of this "musician talk" stuff :)

[@alyl.9430]

Title: "Why I use autotune" Malinda: *proceeds to explain that she technically doesn't use autotune*

[@conlon4332]

Yep. That's exactly what I thought.

[@perforongo9078]

She spends a significant portion of the video mentioning that she uses actual autotune as a stylistic flourish when she is making pop videos. Then with her other songs, she mentions that though she technically does not use "autotune", she does use another type of pitch-altering software for more subtle fixes. I appreciate her honesty in disclosing these things to us, and I think it's a good practice.

[@musician1971a]

@@perforongo9078 Exactly. AutoTune and Melodyne are very different types of software.

[@minniefromm6628]

You sound amazing with or without the voice tuning ❤️

[@AspienPadda]

You used the word "intonation" there a few times and my incredibly musical brother has tried and tried and tried to teach me what intonation is but still I can't snap it (to the point of not believing in its existence) so maybe you could take a swing at trying to get it in my head? I would really appreciate that and I have a feeling you might be able to explain without getting angry at the distracting blank look on my face while you're talking unlike my brother haha ha ha help

[@sunchasericeserawings7166]

Coreen Benadie from my experience as a musician/orchestra student, intonation is a combination of pitch and playing style. When you have a good intonation, you hit the right notes and you have a good decent sound/style. Does that make sense?

[@jessicadrennan1123]

I’m assuming this is like tone in chorus, which is the overall sound or feel of your sound-for instance, having a nasal tone or having a throaty tone.

[@ThaetusZain]

Just intonation just mean the music is based on the ratios and not just an equal division of the octave (or whatever you are dividing it up by) like a major third is 5/4, that means when justly intoned for every 5 of waves of the higher pitched sound there's 4 of the lower. That's (checks the xen wiki) 386.3 cents. The equal temperament major 3rd is 400 cents exact. So it's about 13.7 cents off.

[@jessicadrennan1123]

Chris Bradshaw Wow, you actually know what you’re talking about lol😂I’m very impressed!!

[@nixtheclause9984]

Um, if you found any of the other descriptions weird, I’m gonna try to make it clear for a non-musician. Intonation is (for me, this may not be entirely correct) if the note is in tune or out of tune. When one is singing, or playing something like a violin where you can get notes that aren’t real notes, if its not the correct note, the intonation is off. If it is the correct note, the intonation is right. Does that make sense? If you don’t really get it, try downloading a tuner app for a few minutes and singing at it. Usually, there’s a needle on the screen, and when its in the middle/green its the ‘correct intonation’. If its basically anywhere else, its the ‘incorrect intonation.’ That was long-winded, but I hope it makes sense. If it doesn’t, then I’m sorry.

[@Fun4u5678123]

She makes explaining videos look so easily. When I try, I ramble on and on

[@rubywojcik]

It’s called planning out the video before you record it

[@frogdoesstuffsometimes]

same 😂

[@Fun4u5678123]

@@rubywojcik true but it's so easy to go off topic

[@bones9964]

@@Fun4u5678123 she refilms certain parts, don't you notice the "cuts" in the video. With editing you can make anything at least ok.

[@Fun4u5678123]

Paytron B. I know how a KZbin video works (I didn’t mean for that to come off as rude as it sounds). For me lol, it would probably be a cut every few seconds

[@flowerene2630]

7:42 Perfect pitch is a blessing and a curse. It drives me insane.

[@sipstea5594]

You're just as talented, with or without autotune ❤️

[@xcallisto_]

Yeah, but, if you watched the video, you'll know she doesn't use autotune...

[@maxeales4272]

Lennart Petersen 1:28

[@maxeales4272]

Lennart Petersen She has written underneath that her producers use that software on her? next to the photo of the software

[@bobbuethe1477]

@@maxeales4272 Yes, but then she explains the difference between "Autotune" and "tuning software," and that she tunes but doesn't autotune.

[@maxeales4272]

Bob Buethe Yes I know, the points i made were to prove wrong other comments which now have been deleted! She makes it very clear that she uses tuning 😅

[@ryantrue4844]

If you can't sing it live don't make it sound like you can is a great way to go about autotune

[@StevenJQuinlan]

That's the big takeaway isn't it. Use it as an aide, but not as a replacement for you actual singing voice

[@joaogouveia2224]

But it doesn't work like that. The song must sound nice to sell and be heard. Only real fans go to concert and not casual listeners. Then again there are major differences Everytime every artist sings the same song live. There are bad voice days, poorly trained voices that are capable of reaching high notes but not trained enough, there are song that are not simply made to be heard live, even Adele can't sing live sometimes, or Sia... It's normal to touch up the voice a little especially in pop since it needs that smooth sound to sell...

[@joaogouveia2224]

@Hana Rose stuff like voice cracks and harshness, dry vocals etc... Are really not apart of pop music. The touch ups smooth the sound so it sounds more natural and less forced. I for one love voice cracks, Sia and Demi's voices for instance crack a lot singing live but in the studio versions they avoid that so it sounds like less of an effort. Pop is supposed to be this casual music that can be applied anywhere from fast food restaurants, to bars, to car trips... So it needs to sound as pleasing as possible. Therefore pop is smoother while rock is more rough and natural (but not pleasing to everyone's ears)

[@joaogouveia2224]

@Hana Rose with rock I just meant that strained voices, voice cracks, screams and growls are common because they stylize and reenforce certain feelings. Of course there are really smooth rock songs, even from hardcore bands. But pop unfortunately evolved into this "safe" sound. And I honestly find it too safe, its the same chorus repeated (literally) like three times and it gets old really fast. It's all so controlled it feels like more of a product than art. But actually hearing it live is so refreshing. Even when high notes are not done like studio versions (Demi and that "Fall in Line" bb5) it feels so great the listen to her trying to go around and sometimes hitiing the note briefly various times to try and make it up for the fans. It's great

[@user-wt5if6rx8m]

maybe. lana del rey can't sing shit live, i still like some of her studio versions tho. marina (from marina and the diamonds), same. i love her songs but would i pay to see her live? nope. i don't care if someone changes their voice when they wanna be superstars, there are tons of other great singers out there who can actually sing and we can appreciate live, i went to a jake bugg concert and it was very pleasing. i think there's enough room for everyone in the industry.

[@DistrarSubvoyikar]

For some strange I mainly see absurd hate comments accusing pop artists of using autotune to make their songs in the first place, as if they think autotune is a composing software rather than a tuning software. It's eerie, really. I hope those people find and pay attention to this video. And I enjoyed the music theory lesson.

[@noraeisenman597]

I like the ball in the siiiiinnnnkkk!!

[@IsomerMashups]

I really don't care when or why anyone uses tuning. If it makes the song sound nice, I like it. Sort of like how I don't care if a painting was made by hand or by press. If it looks nice, I like it.

[@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735]

I couldn't care less about whether you use auto tuning or not The content you make are very creative and unique and that's what makes you special!

[@taoist32]

NorthernStal CPR y'all She doesn’t use Autotune. She used tuning software which is different. That was the first topic she explained.

[@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735]

That's why I said I couldn't care less

[@mertarican5456]

Agreed

[@gamegirlcz1697]

The most important thing in this video: Malinda is not secretly a man 😂

[@kawaiimarshmallowlover9011]

Game girl cz ?

[@CiaranHoyt]

You and Physics Girl should collab to talk about this more in depth. This is awesome!!!

[@niela2455]

this pls

[@ghyslainabel]

I approve.

[@MALINDAMedia]

They actually collabed a few years back ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4W0qnmwidFofaM

[@JSkinnerish]

My dislike of autotune would depend on how much the artist leans on it. I've seen enough singers over the years who sound great in a studio but are completely found out when they try to do it live in front of an audience. Those who can do it live (Freddie Mercury's performance with Queen at Live Aid 1985 is still the greatest live performance I've ever seen) or KZbinrs like the Peter/Evynne Hollens, Malukah, Bailey Rushlow etc.those are people who tend to interest me more on a personal level.

[@sunflower7874]

Right!

[@StrazdasLT]

Ah, Malukah, using so much echo effects she sounds like a competely different person with it off (still good though).

[@g.strobl4458]

What really bugs me is when voices of good singers are smoothed over too much. It's like substituting a pristine sheet of paper with a sheet of plastic of the same colour and measurements - sure, the result is really smooth, but way too artificial.

[@debishvebishwish4839]

When you are tone deaf but still try so hard to listen and understand what is Malinda talking about.

[@kermeetie4778]

I am crying cause music is such a huge part of my life that being gone deaf would be like being dead.

[@phunkyponio]

I'm pitch deaf....bass and soprano don't reach my ears. But I sing fairly well.

[@sunchasericeserawings7166]

I don’t think anyone is truly tone deaf, they just don’t have the training or practice to distinguish pitches. I used thought I used to be tone deaf until third year of orchestra

[@kermeetie4778]

@@sunchasericeserawings7166 Thnak you becuase I didnt really know much about tone-deafness until your comment!!

[@sunchasericeserawings7166]

Chiara Scarano of course!

[@Dan-Black]

8:56 - "…you're asking for treble"? I thought you said earlier you were using it for bass.

[@Dan-Black]

I might be asking it for percussion… Ba dum, tss!

[@MALINDAMedia]

She was all about that bass ... no treble... then she realized she is better than Meghan Trainor... So screw logic 😂

[@zj_gaming9800]

I know this is an old video. Buuuuut... I’d like to see a video where you sing a song that requires the touches of tuning twice: once without the tuning, and once with, so we can compare and get a better idea of all the complexities you’re covering here. Just an idea. Love your content!!

[@Fun4u5678123]

It's understandable, you want to make it as perfect as possible.

[@z_lila]

Thank you. I am just SICK of seeing people go "stop with the auto-tune it sucks" and all that jazz all the time. IT IS LITERALLY JUST- AGH- But seriously. Malinda is a GOOD SINGER, people. A GOOD SINGER. Even if she fixes up a bit of stuff, it doesn't mean it's completely changing the song!

[@kyleshultz5481]

This was fascinating. I've been singing for a long time (mostly live, not usually recorded so far), but I never really knew about any of this, so it's really helpful. (And entertaining, as always.) The thing about your singing is that it's obvious you don't need to use tuning as a crutch, and as a result, your discreet use of tuning when the context calls for it isn't even noticeable. I think there's always a clear difference between people who use tuning to actually fake singing talent and those who don't. Granted, you did a terrific job phrasing your comments here so as not to actually diss any other singers, which is admirable.

[@randomperson1714]

Make up,helps you make your face look how you want it to. Auto tune and tuning,helps you sound how you want to sound. Plastic surgery,helps you make your body look how you want it to. Photoshop,helps you make a picture look how you want it to. All of these things have something in common aka helping you do what you can’t and all of these things aren’t 100% bad

[@Natalie-101]

I would love to see you translate a nicki minaj song! I think it would be super funny! As for this channel it would be awesome to see a bts of you recording a song! Love you💕❤

[@koolkitty108]

I’ve always wanted to see her translate "We Like To Party." Now that would also be likely funny.

[@miriamar7362]

Yes!

[@arbormeow]

My phone has a rubbish speaker but I could just about hear the difference. Good video!

[@digitool5944]

I'm tone deaf as can be, I barely heard a difference, in fact I don't think I actually did

[@peepers811]

RQK1996 Maybe it's the placebo effect

[@angeladavidson2350]

I understood the part at 6:08 because my band director explains this to us ALL the time. Sometimes when playing/singing chords, it sounds better to have one or two notes be slightly off pitch than to have everyone be right on pitch. Music is weird lol

[@mizusenshi8172]

I found this pretty interesting. I have a pretty wide range when singing, but I can't sing super low, and if I sing too high my voice cracks. So I guess I'm sort of in the middle?? I have been classed as a soprano the couple times I've been in choirs though. The thing about emotion vs accuracy....I struggle with that. If I try to perform a song on pitch and stuff, I lose the emotion, while if I try to sing it emotionally I'm often out of tune. For instance, I started a song cover channel about a year ago, and on the songs where I was worried about being on tune, someone commented I lacked passion, but then on songs where I tried to be less polished, I was complimented for having passion. It's weird. I mean, I don't have perfect pitch either, though apparently I have good relative pitch (like I can tell if I or others are off tune really well). I'm also not formally trained, so that probably makes a difference too.

[@silkwesir1444]

"The thing about emotion vs accuracy....I struggle with that." No need to struggle with that. That's just what one would expect. What do you think makes us able pick up "emotion" from singing? we are (mostly subconsciously) detecting slight imperfections in the pitch and interpreting those (by imagining how _we_ would feel if what we are hearing was _our own_ voice -- very simplified). so it's physically impossible to do both at the same time!

[@AlexKnauth]

@@silkwesir1444 Hm, I never thought about that, that's interesting!

[@mizusenshi8172]

@@silkwesir1444 Huh. I guess that's true. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@claramaria9058]

This was the first time I have heard a side by side comparison of conventional tuning versus ideal harmonic resonance and although I was familiar with the terms, hearing the difference was really cool. Just intonation adds so much more depth to the harmony, I'm guessing this is because of the ideal ratio of canceled to elevated frequencies. Thank you for this truly informative video. I love how you explain these things with so much confidence and humor while at the same time being so humble and genuine.

[@lizw4]

I feel that you have better explained the physics--and sometimes physical--behind music and tuning! Your analysis is by far better than the one I received in my college classes! I'm partially deaf--not enough to warrant a hearing device, but definitely noticeable--and can't really hear the difference in the "highs;" so when you did the whole intonation part, I couldn't really hear a difference in the upper register. However, Bass I hear VERY well, and there is a difference in the bass resonance between the two examples. The intonation has more of a "flowing" WAH WAH to it, while the other feels stiff and without a bottom. Again, this was a great explanation into Autotune and Tuning! If you haven't put this on other Social Media...PLEASE DO SO!! Many could benefit from this discussion! :D Keep up the wonderful work and I'll look forward to your next videos! (From both channels!) :D

[@MegaSupernova888]

THIS! THANK YOU!! As a music production geek it drives me crazy when people talk about how a song is bad because you can "hear the autotune" (which a lot of times is just reverb lol, software like melodyne doesn't sound robotic if used sparingly and skillfully). Tuning vocals is so necessary to get a good, modern sound. Thank you for educating people on this!!

[@racingmackerel]

This was so educational, never again will I use "autotune" as an insult

[@deep.space.12]

Hey can you make a before-after video of mixing and compression and stuff so we could hear the difference?

[@leonie7356]

I don't know if you wanna hear her voice tuned, but if you just search for examples: Here you go. (Sorry. It's german. ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/opWxfoqNftlkpNk

[@ancypoulose1119]

😂😂😂yess!! I'm finally early enough to a vid to see how drunk KZbin is because it says 51 views but 104 likes!!! Who are these people that KZbin finds that likes a video without even clicking on it

[@pondboy3682]

I mean, if I had the power, I'd like every one of Malinda's videos, and then go back and watch them, but yeah, makes you wonder about those view counters!

[@kayrareader]

"You're asking for treble" hahaha love it XD

[@silkwesir1444]

6:30 "DOESN'T THAT FEEL WEIRD NOW?" actually, for me, it doesn't (and yes, I _do_ hear the difference). quite the opposite, to me the other one ("just intonation") is the one that sounds weird. (remember cassette recorders? when the tape is slightly wrinkly? it sounds a bit like that to me)

[@AlexKnauth]

I'm curious, do you mainly learn or play music with a Piano or some other fixed-pitch instrument involved? I learned Piano first, but now I mainly play Viola and Violin player as well as singing. On a Viola or Violin, I can adjust the pitch up or down slightly to make it sound better, and vibrato and stuff. A couple orchestra directors I've had have told us how to adjust to be closer to Just intonation on certain chords. And especially when I'm singing in a small group A Capella, usually renaissance or early-baroque style music, we very often adjust out pitches to make the chord sound better with harmonics. However, whenever we're playing with a piano or harpsichord or something we don't do that very much, and instead tune based on the Piano's equal temperament. It's like two different modes of thinking.

[@silkwesir1444]

yes indeed, Piano it was! interesting thought you have there.

[@loganricherson]

@@silkwesir1444 actually, piano isn't generally tuned "correctly". It is usually on stretched tuning where the left end is slightly flat and the right end is slightly sharp Edit: also, the individual strings that make up a note are slightly detuned from each other

[@meganbrady3345]

I love how dramatic you are with your facial expressions! My friends call me weird when I act like that, so it makes me so happy to see other people doing it especially subconsciously. Edit: dramatic isn't quite the right word... Maybe expressive?

[@jamarinflanigan]

Expressive is the right word. I'm the same way. Both her and I have expressive faces.

[@nodoboho]

Me, too. I moved to a city where apparently if you are, uh, _enthusiastic_ and expressive, people think you are "extra"...or bipolar. smh. I have learned to own it and if it is mentioned, I usually explain it as a cultural thing--my immediate family are all a specific NYC ethnic group sometimes known for being smart, "pushy", opinionated, articulate, and more. I never felt I stood out though when I lived in LA, where a lot of those folks moved like my family did. (It is possible, however, that I am a bit _more_ expressive and responsive than the rest of my family. ;) ) Personally, I think many of the people who are bothered by it are passive-aggressive, white-bread, provincial, judgmental, and boring.

[@alhassanekeita5585]

8:12 imma annoy u. PLZ SING BASE

[@arcayve]

That slow mo😂😂😂😂😂😄😄😄

[@darkchocolate5494]

Honestly you're really inspirational to me, I really want to be a singer in the future, and this is so interesting 💕

[@jamesslick4790]

It's silly to HAVE to explain to rubes about using tools in the studio. ( multi track recording ,drum machines and effects boxes are well established tools in studio music) Wow, People will next complain about special effects in movies.... Oh never mind! Lol, But I'm glad for an explanation of how it works from the artist perspective. 👍👍👍

[@McCoyHouse]

Love you girl. Autotune will never change that.

[@intercat4907]

Ending with an excellent celebration of live, flawed, human music. We don't go to live concerts to hear robotic perfection; we go to be swept up in the effort and passion. Now back to "Galway Girl". Thanks, Malinda.

[@scotu7075]

Thank you for the video! I really love learning about music theory/music production. I didn’t know manually tuning things existed until I took music production, and that’s because it just makes things sound natural. Autotune is really obvious in music but small refinement through manual tuning and subtle reverb just makes things sound right and it’s used in pretty much every song that isn’t sung live. In my opinion, RECORDED voices without tuning and editing often sound worse than those same exact voices singing LIVE. I’m glad you pointed out that there isn’t one exact tuning that is “correct,” as I have experienced moments in orchestra where I have to make a certain note “extra sharp/extra flat” because of the key I’m in or because of what notes come before/after. Sometimes things have to be a few cents off in order for it to sound in tune, which sounds like an oxymoron but it’s true. The last thing I want to mention: if someone who is wayyy out of tune is manually changing their pitch, you can tell something is a little off, because voices have different timbre at different pitches and software can’t easily distinguish between that (it’s the same with instruments, when sampling you have to use many samples or it doesn’t sound natural, you can’t take one sample and tune it to every pitch and have it still sound like the instrument originally sounded). The reason why it sounds natural for Malinda is because the pitch only barely/rarely has to be adjusted. Thanks again for the video!

[@jimklein8627]

I enjoyed the information/education. But what I really care about is your voice, personality and videos keep me coming back. Any critics are just jealous!! Would love to hear you do something with Home Free or Peter Hollens!!

[@conradbeam3919]

You should make a series explaining things like this cuz that would be really cool

[@pattyrutins1779]

Equal temperament is only as old as Bach's Well-Tempered Klavier, which celebrated the new revolution in keyboard tuning. Prior to that, and still today on Baroque instruments, an instrument would be tuned in a particular key. Folk harps today are another example of natural tuning. What this means, practically speaking, is that the farther away you get from the key you've tuned to, the more off-key you start to sound. If your harp is tuned in C and you need to play something in the key of G#, it's going to sound pretty bad. With equal temperament, any key sounds decent - though really every key is just ->

[@fatwolf]

Professor Malinda of musicology explains it all.

[@evanmcdonnal]

Few comments about tuning "heard it that way for centuries" ... well A440 wasn't a standard til the early 1900's so definitely no one has heard music tuned like modern music for centuries. Also, the Just Intonation stuff while based on the harmonic overtone series of human voice, bowed and winded instruments is really the way it is because it allows the use of simple ratios for intervals. Equal Temperament is more complicated mathematically and wouldn't actually be manifested in the design of a keyboard instrument until about the time of Bach. I would actually argue no one has heard music tuned like modern music up until the 21st century. It goes beyond just the use of tuning but also the fact that many arrangements are made of entirely perfect tuned software instruments. And then there's rhythmic editing. Rhythm and tuning are the same and rhythmic issues impact tuning quality. For example in rock music if guitar is playing an Em chord and bass is playing open low E string and they are not playing on time then the peaks and troths of the E's wave form won't align and it will sound basically the same as if one was slightly sharp or flat (causes slight beating). In any case, everyone uses some form of autotune and I bet it won't be long before everyone is using it live. It'll just become a standard part of running sound at a venue. There's really not much downside to gently applying autotune to anything. I even started putting it on bass, other people have heard and agree that it takes a very subtle amount of mud out of the recording. Guitars, basses and pianos are never in tune. We use stretched octave tuning on piano for example so the instrument gets continually sharper, it's because the overtones from those instruments are all tending sharp. Also one last comment, fine pitch accuracy and perfect pitch have literally nothing to do with one another. With perfect pitch the note is placed into a bucket, if accurate enough it's recognized as that note. Fine pitch accuracy is something you have to train independently of relative pitch or perfect pitch and is based on listening for the absence of beating. Take your Harvard MIQ test for example, I'm pretty sure you outperformed Eddy from TwoSet on the singing tuning portion and he has perfect pitch. His fine pitch listening skills aren't great imo, perhaps because he's always assumed they're perfect. You can isolate and train the particular listening skill and for me at least it came a lot easier than things like interval recognition and melodic dictation.

[@clemrecords2548]

What's your approximate range ? (Ex: G3-F#5)

[@Selena133193]

I really like your makeup in this video. It enhances but it doesn't look you're trying to cover anything up, just make what you have look better. Kind of like tuning...I guess. Could you do a tutorial on how you did your makeup for this video?

[@Suho1004]

That was actually very interesting and informative. You asked what we would like to see, and I was thinking as you were talking about how the production of popular music has changed (or differs depending on context) that it would have been nice to have had some examples of that. (I thought the examples of equal temperament versus ideal harmonic resonance later on were great and really helpful.) So maybe you could talk a little more about things like that in the future.

[@Compman007]

Truly, what is wrong with tuning?! Music is art! Also telling a photographer not to Photoshop a Photo, Who Cares?!!! Technology helps make the art better!!! Thats why we created it!!!!

[@Canwehitsubscriberswitho-sr1id]

How do you have less than even 100k subscribers. Honestly you should be in the list of top 50 youtubers with both channels because you have a beautiful voice. Whether you use auto tune/tuning or not

[@nobodysseus2905]

Your left ear looked like it was in much pain from that earring (As I rewatch this for the 3rd time after linking it to somebody for educational purposes). I'm just saying, it looked like that earring was not giving your left ear a fun time in this video. :/

[@alexladon9757]

This is an amazing video regarding the subject of "auto-tune" on KZbin videos and Malinda I love it so much, I have a new appreciation and greater respect for you

[@conlon4332]

6:43 I could hear a difference… I'm not sure if one was better than the other; I didn't like either. They were buzzy and ringy and... uug… I really didn't like them.

[@MaigaVidal]

I feel like using AutoTune as an extension of your voice for effect (via T-Pain, Cher in the 2000s) is a pretty interesting choice - it’s like they’re almost detaching themselves from their voice! But yeah, autotune can become a crutch SO EASILY

[@RmDIrSudoSu]

the problem is that most of time, they don't use it as such and just use it to correct bad singing.

[@riinak7212]

@Maiga Vidal Cher never used Autotune to correct bad singing; it was a vocal effect added to some lines of "Believe" initially only to make her voice sound purposefully robotic and be a bit clubby. When it took off the producers even lied to others to try to keep their software use a trade secret before it was eventually found out. Cher has used it since, but not all the time, and not in every live performance (also, check out Cher's live vocals from the 60s-80s; she doesn't generally need it). Also, as I said before, T-Pain has a natural soulful voice that won him "The Masked Singer" for a reason. It's got a great range and wonderful tone. He just likes the way autotune makes him sound, and he even needs to sing a bit sharp or flat to make the autotune software work. He's performed live with and without it. :)

[@heavenlyguitar5913]

Those “few cents off” is what gives music it’s soul. The record label that owns Queen’s music is now auto tuning Freddy Mercury. This is why modern pop music is so robotic and sterile and sounds the same. Auto tune also “snaps” the note to the pitch and sometimes when a person is sliding up the scale or has great vibrato then program snaps it to a pitch it thinks it needs to go to. Malinda you have a phenomenal voice and know how to use it. Auto tuning is not necessary for any one. I like honest performances. Nobody is flawless and that makes us human and brings out the soul of the music.

[@SuperHothead14]

I think the problem is way too many modern Mainstream musicians, ie. What you hear on the radio, use it as a crutch to try to make themselves sound like a good singer. And it isn't even hidden. I remember a time when everyone sounded like tpain or the fireflies guy. But when used correctly. Used what it was meant for, minor adjustments, it's fine.

[@probablyjustamagpie5357]

SuperHothead14 do you mean Owl City?

[@SuperHothead14]

Blazeheart 13 yes. Thank you

[@JubileeBloom]

This is a bit random, but I LOVE Owl City! Just saying.

[@SuperHothead14]

Imaginer 31415 good for you. Can't stand him. Would rather hammer nails into my ears.

[@Felixr2]

@@SuperHothead14 First of all, Adam Young (the man behind Owl City (and Sky Sailing, Port Blue, etc.)) doesn't use autotune, but melodyne. That alone is a very important distinction between him and T-Pain (who does go for the lazy route of slapping autotune over his vocals) Another distinction between the two is that Adam Young doesn't use nearly as much tuning in live performances (and that sounds kinda weird when you're used to the finely tuned studio version) On top of that, the way Adam Young handles tuning is a matter of style. He is striving for (and succesfully creating) a sound that is practically impossible to create without tuning, no matter how well one can sing. (The same can be said about T-Pain, but the difference is the amount of effort put into the tuning) And in defense of both T-Pain and Adam Young, they're both great singers even without tuning anything. And yes, that means that T-Pain has to purposefully sing off-key to get autotune to mess with his voice, since it doesn't do anything if you're already singing in tune. Not to say you're wrong for disliking their respective sounds, but please don't talk about T-Pain's tuning and Adam Young's tuning as if it's the same thing. If you're looking for another artist to mention when complaining about the use of autotune, who does hold up to the comparison with T-Pain, perhaps consider Ke$ha.

[@cipherxen2]

Old indian singers like Kishore Kumar, Mohd Rafi, Lata Mangeshkar, Asha Bhosle and likes of them, would easily put autotune to shame.

[@sepiahoney]

I expected the Good Mythical Morning theme song to play after you said “let’s talk about that”

[@daveduley]

Cool and informative!! Thanks!

[@ElimY]

I LOVE THIS NERDY VIDEO!!! I actually wrote a paper on wavelengths and pitch for a chemistry class (surprisingly not a physics class) and so this makes me really excited!! Please make MORE VIDEOS LIKE THESE!!!

[@joeruder]

Great video! "If you can't sing it live don't make it sound like you can" ...as I go and start deleting literally every recording of me. :)

[@DCFusor]

Tuning schemes, oh boy. Things without "quantized" pitch - voiced, violins, anything that can "bend" tend to be "just" tuning if left to their own devices (and the ears of the performer). Things where that would just create too many keys - like piano - have to be even 12th root of two tuned. The guy who did the measurements of this stuff was Carl Seashore in his groundbreaking work "The Psychology of Music" in terms of who does what. Differences in tempering go back much further into the mists of time (EX - The Well Tempered Clavier - Bach"). Think how hard it would be to play the piano if you needed to split all the black keys into two and use one combination when the base key was C, but another if it was E or F#....that's what it would take to approximate just tuning on a piano. This is covered in a piano tuning book I have from the 1930s - and it's right. I easily hear the beat note in your equal tempered 3rd for example. However, voice has no excuse, since there are no "frets". Which is also why it takes more guts to use less vibrato - people can hear the errors better without it. Just funnin' ya, Malinda, keep it all up - whatever you're doing it sounds really good to my extremely picky musician ears. I find it really easy to dislike a vocal due to those ears, but I like your work.

[@blackdragon8376]

What’s the problem with auto tune?

[@digitool5944]

if you can hear it used it sounds unprofessional and lazy

[@blackdragon8376]

It also is a staple of pop and if you watch the video, auto tuning and tuning in general helps people sound more professional

[@bryanabbott6169]

*remembers performers careers ruined by relying on prerecorded songs in live performances* I can see what can happen when someone relies too much on Autotune in live performances. If there's a glitch, power outage, or if it's set up the wrong way, for example....

[@fuzzygenius]

This was super interesting and informative. A cool look behind the curtain, so to speak.

[@TheRealMMC]

Honestly, this was a total slap to the face to anyone who hate-comments on music related KZbin videos that they are using auto tune and that it would be better if they didn't. I appreciate how informative and well-explained this video was. Totally disproved a lot of people's beliefs about what autotune is.

[@adversHandle]

Very informative i had no idea how it could be used properly Also now I'm wondering if it could be used to help me learn I can sing im just usually shit at it I don't know how to use my voice 😂

[@conlon4332]

What we're used to in western music. What we've been hearing in western music for centuries. Western music. Western music. What other, non-western music isn't like this? That's the obvious question you never even touched on.