It's not just Autotune - how singers cheat today (Pop Theory)

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RoomieOfficial

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7 жыл бұрын

Thought autotune is the only thing used to fix singer's voices? Think again!
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@STAWSKINATOR
@STAWSKINATOR 7 жыл бұрын
Most popular artists are mainly propped up by great producers
@ja994
@ja994 7 жыл бұрын
Chicken Permission .....or they just prop themselves up by doing every step of prod, write, record, mix, master by themselves. some great artists today can complete most all these steps on their own, it's very impressive. But most would agree a second set of ears in the mix/master stage is ideal no matter how much experience you have. Bieber gets 3-4 world known mix engineers on each track. It's a pretty expensive process.
@ekkeekkeekkeekkeptangzoobo5760
@ekkeekkeekkeekkeptangzoobo5760 7 жыл бұрын
Or their mom is someone like katie Parie. Did i spell that right(because I really don't care)
@LotharOfTheHillPeople
@LotharOfTheHillPeople 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! You're so cool you don't even know how to spell Perry! I wish I were hip and edgy like you.
@FelixOner
@FelixOner 7 жыл бұрын
+DRS I don't really know how to how to spell myself too 😆
@odd_familiar
@odd_familiar 7 жыл бұрын
Engineers*
@TokyoXtreme
@TokyoXtreme 5 жыл бұрын
Intro looks like an ad, but there was no option to skip.
@asdfghjkl11178
@asdfghjkl11178 5 жыл бұрын
TokyoXtreme lmao
@cymaticCS
@cymaticCS 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was wondering why I can't skip the ad...
@YHWShane
@YHWShane 4 жыл бұрын
True
@isaacharris7889
@isaacharris7889 4 жыл бұрын
i tried
@chiakinanami16
@chiakinanami16 4 жыл бұрын
Cymatic same
@HVYContent
@HVYContent 5 жыл бұрын
The irony of her lyrics: I Can't Make It On My Own 😂🤣
@ImaginaryStudios
@ImaginaryStudios 5 жыл бұрын
thats not irony irony is something unexpected thats like the opposite of irony
@Jaburu
@Jaburu 5 жыл бұрын
@@ImaginaryStudios yea, it's sarcasm, or satire
@ImaginaryStudios
@ImaginaryStudios 5 жыл бұрын
@@w0ah163 no thats the exact opposite of the definition of irony. Irony is the opposite of what is expected. The lyrics "i can't make it on my own" combined with her actually not being able to make it on her own and using autotue would make it basically the opposite of irony.
@mangidhi
@mangidhi 5 жыл бұрын
HVYContent 😂😂🙌🏾
@nikku1166
@nikku1166 4 жыл бұрын
when my shirts wrinkled, i use irony to get it smooth again. it's like autotune for clothing
@XanderrMonroe
@XanderrMonroe 3 жыл бұрын
LOL at her face when he says “you can’t become a pop star with that voice right” 😂😂😂
@zilungilemabunzi9945
@zilungilemabunzi9945 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this comment. 🤣🤣🤣
@siebenoel705
@siebenoel705 7 жыл бұрын
Only 5:43? You're a legend!
@yeet6627
@yeet6627 7 жыл бұрын
Progamer 999 what?
@ijustwannacommentnotmyreal9814
@ijustwannacommentnotmyreal9814 7 жыл бұрын
Hrefna Runarsdottir exactly
@HellHound_
@HellHound_ 7 жыл бұрын
He kept the video under 10 minutes so i doesnt generate that much money. (for those who dont understand)
@meggomyeggo6688
@meggomyeggo6688 7 жыл бұрын
TheLegend27???
@halloooo1duuuuu
@halloooo1duuuuu 7 жыл бұрын
+HellHound do youtubers earn more money if the vids are longer than 10 min?
@fiveoneecho
@fiveoneecho 6 жыл бұрын
"Grab a cup of joe, and then buy me a dog..." That escalated quickly.
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 6 жыл бұрын
Ladies...irrational, am I right? JK...
@iamoneal8946
@iamoneal8946 6 жыл бұрын
Cole Smith lol 😂😂
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 6 жыл бұрын
MrGreyjeep -- Well, that would certainly be a lot more suggestive and adult a lyric. It would still escalate things, though. :)
@Pulse2AM
@Pulse2AM 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! Better lay off the espresso who knows what damage will be done to the credit rating.
@restcure
@restcure 6 жыл бұрын
Nice hearing about some of the tools to fix off-pitch singing - now If only there were tools like that to fix the *writing* ...
@MaxRiley
@MaxRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows what he's talking about. YT is fulled with videos about autotuning when actually they don't even know the difference between autotune, chorus, compressor, dubbing vocals etc. Well done bro!
@bhaskarville
@bhaskarville 4 жыл бұрын
The autotune BARELY changed your singing. You're so good man! Super informative video too!
@The1Ab0veAll
@The1Ab0veAll 5 жыл бұрын
0:33 *Roomie* : so you may think that someone like Louise here would not be able to become a world class pop star, not with that Voice, right ?! *Louise* : 😕😕😒😒
@moron4548
@moron4548 5 жыл бұрын
Poor Louise
@777roberthelder
@777roberthelder 5 жыл бұрын
RʌɴᴅᴏᴍGuY2 😂😂😜
@Alpha-Andromeda
@Alpha-Andromeda 5 жыл бұрын
I sound like Louise. So I was psyched when I heard her at the end. And so happy when Roomie was DELIGHTED by her output. Imperfect enough to be autotuned: GOOD JOB LOUISE. 😂
@hdihiiehei
@hdihiiehei 5 жыл бұрын
he is speaking the truth tho
@boughtbot2639
@boughtbot2639 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha... life hurts.
@gigglyfitzgirl
@gigglyfitzgirl 7 жыл бұрын
0:18 vs 5:11 The difference is insane.
@ckg3362
@ckg3362 7 жыл бұрын
gigglyfitzgirl Music producing for you right there
@Vishal006
@Vishal006 6 жыл бұрын
yep its *insane*
@Vitikarm
@Vitikarm 6 жыл бұрын
Vishal006 your profile picture made me think it was a real bug
6 жыл бұрын
Its other part of the song. He never showed how she sang that
@alvyarnob2454
@alvyarnob2454 3 жыл бұрын
This is why i listen to 80's songs. The pure musics.
@deezytherunt4639
@deezytherunt4639 5 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever really heard a chipmunk speak? Asking for a friend
@Alpha-Andromeda
@Alpha-Andromeda 5 жыл бұрын
DEEZY THE RUNT hahaha 🤣
@yuh1159
@yuh1159 5 жыл бұрын
When I was young my friend told me 3 chipmunks sang to him
@joelee5875
@joelee5875 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but couldn't understand them, I think maybe they were talking too fast.
@arcen4426
@arcen4426 4 жыл бұрын
@@ben5877 lol
@arcen4426
@arcen4426 4 жыл бұрын
@@ben5877 lol
@renegadenotehead8704
@renegadenotehead8704 6 жыл бұрын
1988: looks doesn't matter, talent is what counts. 2018: talent doesn't matter, looks is what counts.
@sezjamaelstrom9696
@sezjamaelstrom9696 6 жыл бұрын
True :(
@zer8960
@zer8960 6 жыл бұрын
That is so actually very true
@supergrizzidentity
@supergrizzidentity 6 жыл бұрын
Looks were definitely important in the 80’s too though
@paavoilves5416
@paavoilves5416 6 жыл бұрын
Milli Vanilli
@honeycatacomb1191
@honeycatacomb1191 6 жыл бұрын
Renegade Notehead umm it's called mtv. Look was half the battle in the eighties. You're probably thinking of the 70s.
@stevenbridges
@stevenbridges 7 жыл бұрын
The homeless guy at 4:14 regularly interrupts my street shows hhahaah
@RoomieOfficial
@RoomieOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha he's hysterical! I can imagine it's not as much fun when you're trying to perform tho
@stevenbridges
@stevenbridges 7 жыл бұрын
haha yeah he knocked over my table once. Great video by the way, enjoying this series!
@RafieGFX
@RafieGFX 7 жыл бұрын
omg wich video?!?
@firegirl2316
@firegirl2316 7 жыл бұрын
lol that was hilarious
@sassythesasquatch762
@sassythesasquatch762 7 жыл бұрын
StevenBridges what did he say
@J1Bigtime
@J1Bigtime 3 жыл бұрын
Note from a violin teacher: don’t slide around to find the notes 😂
@myidentityisamystery5142
@myidentityisamystery5142 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@toniodotcom
@toniodotcom 5 жыл бұрын
Before - 0:18 - After 5:11 You're welcome! 4:09 The pilot in Wonder Woman
@moca7949
@moca7949 3 жыл бұрын
@@1minuteinspire actually, songs aren't recorded the same time as recording scene thingies. So technically it could be the same track
@26magicman26
@26magicman26 7 жыл бұрын
and then you see them live and say "Huh, they actually sound pretty bad"
@brodympat
@brodympat 7 жыл бұрын
26magicman26 that's where the lip singing comes in
@stacystracener1393
@stacystracener1393 6 жыл бұрын
Go watch Queen’s “Somebody to Love” live. Freddie Mercury could bring down the house belting out songs...for two hours!
@GamerGal2461
@GamerGal2461 5 жыл бұрын
matthew helm i mean, truth be told I’m sure a lot of modern pop music fans aren’t there to just hear their faves sing, these days...
@jeffreybonanno8982
@jeffreybonanno8982 Жыл бұрын
Kinda like "Live‐Action" Pokémon Movie, huh???😅😂😊😂😅😂
@Leadley
@Leadley 7 жыл бұрын
dude this was so good
@starseer73
@starseer73 7 жыл бұрын
musicalbethan bethan
@RoomieOfficial
@RoomieOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much :)
@jin510
@jin510 7 жыл бұрын
no it wasn't that Cher comment killed the whole vids I can't take him seriously after that
@CMTZ1
@CMTZ1 7 жыл бұрын
jin slapnlamesmaxwell that she sounded robotic?
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music 6 жыл бұрын
he needs to autotune these vids cuz his voice sucks
@michaeldougherty2807
@michaeldougherty2807 4 жыл бұрын
Milli Vanilli called, they want their Grammy back.
@scarletgonzales840
@scarletgonzales840 4 жыл бұрын
Girl you know its true ooo ooo ooo i love you ?? WTF>
@flobrez2470
@flobrez2470 4 жыл бұрын
That is so true all these artists who are getting help by software should have their Grammys taken away as well
@THECHRISAL3X
@THECHRISAL3X 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention they didn’t really have much choice if they wanted to make it, they were kind of forced to do it the way they did by the people who they were recording under
@vectorifix3218
@vectorifix3218 3 жыл бұрын
@@THECHRISAL3X True! There’s an excellent long Fabrice Morvan interview in KZbin about what really happened. That made me feel sad for them.
@DavidFregoli
@DavidFregoli 5 жыл бұрын
"It's not just Autotune!!" - Talks only about autotune
@Daniel-xt4uv
@Daniel-xt4uv 4 жыл бұрын
he used melodyne
@conniethesconnie
@conniethesconnie 4 жыл бұрын
It's not just the pitch correction "Auto tune was originally designed for but all the additional features that come with autotune software.
@brunopiatto
@brunopiatto 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't get the video, David. Rewatch it.
@jeffstarrunner1
@jeffstarrunner1 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. For the most part. But melodyne does alot, you can also fix any timing issues. Plus those backing vocals also made a world of difference.
@theaddictofgaming9174
@theaddictofgaming9174 4 жыл бұрын
@Legendary Vocalists no, since the seventies.
@Matthew9203
@Matthew9203 7 жыл бұрын
Hello internet, and welcome to POP THEORY!
@certifiedpossum8655
@certifiedpossum8655 6 жыл бұрын
But this is just a theory, A POP THEORY!!
@Xennox2
@Xennox2 6 жыл бұрын
Poop?
@zerotrig8331
@zerotrig8331 6 жыл бұрын
get "poped" like popcorn :3
@tohamy1194
@tohamy1194 6 жыл бұрын
"film theory" and "game theory" :D -for anyone who's wondering-
@joemorrow7691
@joemorrow7691 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew9203 Shouldn't be pup theory 🐶
@darkwolf-nj2ud
@darkwolf-nj2ud 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Roomie.I was waiting since your last video to upload the next pop theory.When i saw this,i literally fell off my chair
@juliie7283
@juliie7283 7 жыл бұрын
Just the Imagination how you fell off your chair is so funny xD
@darkwolf-nj2ud
@darkwolf-nj2ud 7 жыл бұрын
Juliie Ikr
@Highside01
@Highside01 7 жыл бұрын
What about your reaction to being pinned?
@WovenSpade
@WovenSpade 7 жыл бұрын
he loved the comment he didnt pin it
@Highside01
@Highside01 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, my bad
@ronjames-music
@ronjames-music 4 жыл бұрын
It has become another effect just like reverb, delay, compression, etc. Everyone uses it these days... no exceptions. I have no problem with it either as long as the singer can deliver a solid live performance.
@angelashiflet6153
@angelashiflet6153 4 жыл бұрын
Use it, dont rely on it.
@brendanoneil3489
@brendanoneil3489 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Autotune doesn't work on scratchy vocals, so metal screamers aren't using it. Skid Row's Sebastian Bach: " I do not use Auto Tune. I don't even know what it is. My sound man uses delay and reverb on my voice. Just like Rob Halford (JUDAS PRIEST)...."
@hanna3684
@hanna3684 3 жыл бұрын
@@brendanoneil3489 I am no expert but that sounds legit.
@erakoraoghenekevwe2275
@erakoraoghenekevwe2275 3 жыл бұрын
i'm with you Ron...I enjoy good music done by artistes but i respect artistes that are beasts on stage...
@jcTorres813
@jcTorres813 3 жыл бұрын
@@angelashiflet6153 Exactly!
@ThierryPrinciotta
@ThierryPrinciotta 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I saw from you. It is very wel done from a to z. Straight forward, clear, nicelly filmed and presented. Also the short video clip with lighting, angles and stuff. You've got a new follower! Keep up the good work. Greatings from Belgium
@neosomaliana
@neosomaliana 7 жыл бұрын
Man, I appreciate the level of production, creativity, and hard work you put into this! You're helping to revive KZbin
@tacos394
@tacos394 7 жыл бұрын
exactly :)
@theerealanonymous
@theerealanonymous 7 жыл бұрын
neo somaliana 4g xc
@saboo_tage
@saboo_tage 7 жыл бұрын
uh idk if you noticed but youtube is still very much alive
@SlippyLegJones
@SlippyLegJones 7 жыл бұрын
yeah youtube isn't exactly dying.
@Robdust
@Robdust 6 жыл бұрын
Despite all the studio tricks in the world a shit song will always be a shit song.
@timweatherill3738
@timweatherill3738 6 жыл бұрын
And lately almost ALL pop is shit.
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 6 жыл бұрын
It is, Gospel and Country is where it's at. Check out Alan Jackson.
@mrprogrock1
@mrprogrock1 6 жыл бұрын
yea but the public still buy the crap
@soaribb32
@soaribb32 6 жыл бұрын
Robdust And a huge success for the Same reason
@spncrbriggs
@spncrbriggs 6 жыл бұрын
Robdust I don't know bro look at some song out there we might think it's shit but somehow it became number 1 song for the month lol.
@MaidenOfMusic
@MaidenOfMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Musicians from the lowest to highest levels use comping because when they are in the studio and they are about to release a recording to the world that they can't change afterward, they want to put out the best performance possible, and really, it isn't cheating if they are taking the best parts from multiple takes. It's a simple fact that a musician will play a song a little differently each time (not necessarily worse), and if the chorus sounds good on the first take, but the verse on the second is better, why not comp from both? Furthermore, spending endless hours in the studio trying to get a single, perfect take with zero mistakes and no comping is unrealistic, not to mention exhausting on the musician and expensive, as studio time costs money. For example, Adele uses comping in the studio to get the best of each take for a song, but live she just sings; of course it isn't perfect, but in a live setting people go to see her and to hear her "raw" voice.
@rohitdakhane9181
@rohitdakhane9181 4 жыл бұрын
one must apperitiate original voice, rather than tuned voice
@isaaclaughter
@isaaclaughter 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@dherian
@dherian 3 жыл бұрын
Well, there is a reason they call me the One-Take Assassin, I -hate- comping, I really do. So I usually just do it in one take and compose around it. Yes, it makes the song commercially worse, but so much more authentic.
@MbuluTani
@MbuluTani 3 жыл бұрын
I expect to hear an artist’s “raw” voice at a live show, but I expect the same from an album. I respect different tastes, but there are probably artists I’d appreciate more if their albums sounded less processed.
@dherian
@dherian 3 жыл бұрын
@@MbuluTani That´s exactly my sentiment. I for one invested quite a couple bucks so my Stream even comes close to what I hear when I just sit in a room and sing, as postprocessing has become so wild, that even simple "Uploads" to Platforms like Twitch and Smule have LOADS of processing added, in order to conform your audio to their "needs". Then again, unless you are already a top tier streamer, audiences expect to hear that "dead sound" of completely compressed, EQ´d and loudness. They are "crazy" surprised, when they find out, I´ve eliminated the majority of the processing through, you guessed it, processing. Still it´s an uphill battle and it is so much easier to just comp my stuff and run it through fifty instances of Melodyne, Nectar, Ozone and Sugar... Instead of doing what gave me the nickname "The One-Take Assassin".
@EdgarsGrazulis
@EdgarsGrazulis 5 жыл бұрын
So so so cooool!!! Thank you for giving us an insight on how the producers are mixing the vocal in the studio.
@tihainaaana5133
@tihainaaana5133 7 жыл бұрын
Producers are better than singers.
@calebhohneke8482
@calebhohneke8482 6 жыл бұрын
Depends on the genre. I listen to most genres of music but prefer metal because it tends to be more raw and less overproduced. Essentially, singers who can actually sing and don't rely on pitch correction to save their asses haha.
@johnmorris2170
@johnmorris2170 6 жыл бұрын
Caleb Hohneke Sing?!...WTF?!!... how can you call that Cookie Monster throat noises singing.. seriously?
@syndesys
@syndesys 6 жыл бұрын
John Morris That just goes to show how ignorant you are. Are you one of those who says ''metal is just screaming''? Have you ever tried to listen to other sub-genres of metal besides death metal or black metal (you know, the ones where they actually scream)? Listen to Dream Theater for example, and tell me if it's screaming...
@pupperemeritus9189
@pupperemeritus9189 5 жыл бұрын
@@syndesys the answer lies within, solitary shell , a change of seasons. And more. All of these dream theater songs are metal and probably one of the most ethereal songs you will listen
@ArielBissett
@ArielBissett 7 жыл бұрын
This was great! Loved learning about the actual techniques behind everything!
@RoomieOfficial
@RoomieOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+Ariel Bissett thanks ariel :)
@thotdestroyer4j164
@thotdestroyer4j164 6 жыл бұрын
Dang it roomie beat me
@bloodaxe5028
@bloodaxe5028 6 жыл бұрын
Ariel Bissett eeeyyyyy, you that booktuber.
@kian8382
@kian8382 5 жыл бұрын
Now I can't wait to see Louise hits Spotify, I know you can make it happen Rommie.
@ing32
@ing32 4 жыл бұрын
2017: Interesting video similar to a documentary, well edited and well documented 2020: meme peepee poopoo haahaahah poopoo pepee hahaha
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 3 жыл бұрын
I have some toilet PAPER for you if you need it!
@Abelmusic
@Abelmusic 7 жыл бұрын
I Hate it when people say "anyone can be a pop star with auto tune." Because as someone who produces muisc myself I know Its simply not true. Sure you can take a fairly average singer in the studio and with enough hours of head ach, tuning and voice comping you have something that sounds okay. BUT you're failing to see the major elephant(s) in the room. Number one is tone, sure you made the timing and pitch correct but her tone is still very hard to listen to. The second is branding a overly edited vocal is a nightmare to brand how are you sposed to market a unpredictable unreal vocal sound. They never be capable of a truly live performance. And before you point to pop artist that use auto tune and say they did it. You must understand artist like Taylor swift have good tone and natural talents. They use these effect as an artistic choice and there career would still exist without them.
@Abelmusic
@Abelmusic 7 жыл бұрын
I Don't like people be miss lead into thinking they can pursue muisc without talent or artistic abilitys.
@RoomieOfficial
@RoomieOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
I agree there's more to it than being able to be listenable in a studio recording. Personally, I think Louise's tone is pretty nice, reminiscent of Carly Rae Jepsen as many have pointed out. I've also gotten many requests for the full song (Which does not exist, so stop asking haha). There are a couple of popular singers who I think have questionable vocal tone, but that's all subjective until you get to the really far end of the spectrum. I'd say most people can produce a passable vocal tone in the studio, given you record in an easy registry. Funnily enough, low registry singing has been very popular over the last year or so in pop, so this year would have been easier than most. Where modern artists would be without studio help, we can just speculate about. Some artists would still be huge stars (Adele, Ed Sheeran etc are good examples) some others, maybe not.
@Abelmusic
@Abelmusic 7 жыл бұрын
RoomieOfficial Hey thanks for replying I love your channel! I understand what you mean. I don't mean to insult her tone by the way. I just know a few people that think the whole industry is fake... Hey! Keep up your good work!
@search895
@search895 7 жыл бұрын
While many overproduced artists are real artists, that is exactly what i dont get: some of them are real singers, great singers, they practice and learn everyday too. So why those production tools? The reason is chart competition, not art. There was a time not long ago when artists didnt have such and the records sound great. Even "bad" singers like Kurt Cobain recorded his tracks in few takes and they sound just perfect. I think a singer must cope with his/her own voice for the bad and the good. There are still people out there who still believe in their voice. Another thing i still dont get is why punk rock bands have been abusing autotune so far the last years. Punk rock! I dont get it.
@ushasimandal6276
@ushasimandal6276 7 жыл бұрын
Abel exactly... you have said my words... thank you...
@tplannister1020
@tplannister1020 7 жыл бұрын
Two words. - Selena Gomez.
@_magicmaster04_18
@_magicmaster04_18 7 жыл бұрын
also Taylor Swift,she doesn't even know how to sing.
@aleahathomas8468
@aleahathomas8468 7 жыл бұрын
+_MagicMaster04_ Taylor not that bad but Selena , I have to find hers before I can question it or not.
@_magicmaster04_18
@_magicmaster04_18 7 жыл бұрын
Aleaha Thomas tru. Taylor isn't bad but her song lyrics are terrible. Half of it doesn't make sense.
@hifriend7581
@hifriend7581 7 жыл бұрын
Oooh if you think only Selena Gomez does it, you're dead wrong bruv.
@sampletext229
@sampletext229 7 жыл бұрын
Naan Lannister that was 4 words.
@johnnytekstar
@johnnytekstar 4 жыл бұрын
Any girl that wants a dog is ok in my book.
@rovsoriano3107
@rovsoriano3107 5 жыл бұрын
Omg the results of louise’s song is amazing!!
@TheFeralcatz
@TheFeralcatz 6 жыл бұрын
I think autotune destroys the humanity of a singer's voice. Singing isn't meant to be flawless or perfectly on pitch. There's a natural vibrato and subtlety to singing that I think Autotune has absolutely ruined.
@johnyang799
@johnyang799 6 жыл бұрын
TheFeralcatz It doesn't.
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 6 жыл бұрын
My experience playing around with autotune is that if you can't sing in the first place then you can only do robot vocals. It's still better to fix the audio than hear a straight off-key vocal but it won't add the tone of a real singer to someone who only sounds ok when they sing along with the studio track. Would I use it? Yes, I'm not a real singer so I'd have to. If I wanted something more natural though I'd then sing along to the auto-tuned track, using it as a guide to stay on key. Again though, a real singer's throwaway takes are going to sound better than my tuned yelling.
@TheFeralcatz
@TheFeralcatz 6 жыл бұрын
Bob Dylan is a shitty singer, yet he's one of the most respected musicians around.
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, nvm them. Turns out I can have a career after all.
@TheFeralcatz
@TheFeralcatz 6 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, just make sure you can write like Bob Dylan
@frisout
@frisout 7 жыл бұрын
WTF ARE THOSE LYRICS? buy me a dog?
@RoomieOfficial
@RoomieOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
What women REALLY want
@jxshwh
@jxshwh 7 жыл бұрын
RoomieOfficial make a full version. NOW!
@francishalloun7531
@francishalloun7531 7 жыл бұрын
RoomieOfficial MAKE FULL VERSION!
@borekworek69
@borekworek69 7 жыл бұрын
yes!
@Kelarys
@Kelarys 4 жыл бұрын
3 years later and I still love this song, I'm so sad a full version was never made
@allenslaughter7957
@allenslaughter7957 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man!
@OfficialCpClub
@OfficialCpClub 7 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought there was an ad playing at the start
@templebrown7179
@templebrown7179 6 жыл бұрын
I know! I felt the same and was freaking out because there was no skip button.
@HighiamDave
@HighiamDave 6 жыл бұрын
Delta Absol me too!😱
@sp_ceace3235
@sp_ceace3235 6 жыл бұрын
we are all the same!
@doug
@doug 7 жыл бұрын
Love this series so much dude! 👏🏼👏🏼
@RoomieOfficial
@RoomieOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Doug!
@christreloadedrevengeofthe7778
@christreloadedrevengeofthe7778 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doug. Means a lot
@larsswig912
@larsswig912 6 жыл бұрын
Buy me a Doug, a Doug, a Doug
@marissamingg1418
@marissamingg1418 3 жыл бұрын
Roomie, do more of these!
@br2870
@br2870 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this video for years!!! This is so important to me!
@johnnywang206
@johnnywang206 7 жыл бұрын
this is why I don't go to concerts unless the singers can really sing
@reiniervanriezen464
@reiniervanriezen464 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think this series is really freaking interesting
@20DollarBeats
@20DollarBeats 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video.. Well done. When you mention vocal comping, normal people don't realize how much you actually know about sound production. Also, the way you sped through the video to get to the point of the video instead of dragging it on and on just to get more time watched for monetization is appreciated.
@JustSuddenly
@JustSuddenly 3 жыл бұрын
A very quick explanation of all the key points. Awesome video.
@familyguyblows
@familyguyblows 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Grohl in the documentary Sound City talks about how a lot of modern producers abuse these tools instead of just using them as tools without relying on them so much.
@totaltwit
@totaltwit 5 жыл бұрын
maybe it's a business decision, like Louise, the studio can turn her around in far shorter time than keep doing retakes.
@positivechange2000
@positivechange2000 5 жыл бұрын
As a hard rock guitar player, I really don't look down on autotune as a bad thing. In some of my recordings, I admittedly needed to used cut, copy, and paste in order to fix some of my minor mess-ups here and there. But here's the catch, I can play my stuff live. Therefore, as long as the singer can belt it out live and it sounds just as good, then I am cool with it. However, if you need to rely on autotune, pre-recorded tracks, or lipsyncing for a live performance, well...you might just be in the wrong profession altogether.
@patricksclarke
@patricksclarke 5 жыл бұрын
The key word was minor. That is to be expected. The singer used here would die live.
@markdp1983
@markdp1983 5 жыл бұрын
Therefore most of the current pop artists are in the wrong profession!? I certainly agree with that.
@qas2644
@qas2644 5 жыл бұрын
@@patricksclarke autotune can be used live btw so they not really gonna die
@TheEtbetween
@TheEtbetween 5 жыл бұрын
So right, unless they lip sing during live performances. Which is done often.
@tracesmith280
@tracesmith280 5 жыл бұрын
If your down with “correcting little mistakes here An there”. Then your not a real rocker my friend. You either can sing or you can’t plain and simple. A rock An roller wouldn’t mind leaving “minor “ mistakes in.
@jancerny7831
@jancerny7831 4 жыл бұрын
"This song would not existed whithout this workflow" - This is absolute win
@teem5945
@teem5945 5 жыл бұрын
Well produced video. The virtual and audio.
@cutthemustard2592
@cutthemustard2592 7 жыл бұрын
That's why I love Brendon Urie
@evanroberson5547
@evanroberson5547 7 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one that commented this lol
@beatinghearts9404
@beatinghearts9404 7 жыл бұрын
BLESS YOUR SOUL
@ifuckinglovecokezero
@ifuckinglovecokezero 7 жыл бұрын
This is true, but a lot of Too Weird to Live, Too Rare to Die! had a bunch of autotune.
@dsr6113
@dsr6113 7 жыл бұрын
MaxisCrazyWorld yes
@thatswiftfangirl
@thatswiftfangirl 7 жыл бұрын
MaxisCrazyWorld AYE
@eldonmati
@eldonmati 7 жыл бұрын
That girl sounds like Carly Rae Jepsen
@singularity6393
@singularity6393 7 жыл бұрын
Carly Rae Jepsen finally releases her alive 2017, lol.
@thesoupdragonat121
@thesoupdragonat121 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, very informative, though I did hear of Autotune before Sher's song. (Good to see that the external interviews were done around Leicester Square, London, UK).
@nrichmusic3217
@nrichmusic3217 3 жыл бұрын
You are a genius, you just got a new subscriber...I enjoyed this video.
@paulwallis7586
@paulwallis7586 6 жыл бұрын
What I notice about that mix is that none of those notes are really out of her reach; her voice just needs to strengthen and mature, and she could probably do it herself. Natural singers with perfect pitch are the people to listen to to get the singing bug, Louise. Also heard Bieber's demo without autotune, and wasn't bad, particularly for a kid. Maybe Autotune is a a way of saving listener's ears, but let's face it - It's still a hell of a lot of trouble to get a note that should be there in the first place.
@josepedro7463
@josepedro7463 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Wallis maybe they ought to use it for studio but still be able to perform decently live
@elp4949
@elp4949 7 жыл бұрын
Heyy Roomie! your voice is so beautiful. I wish i can sing like you
@baileyuniacke8130
@baileyuniacke8130 7 жыл бұрын
Don't we all
@meeepu
@meeepu 7 жыл бұрын
Ella Pöll You thought he would love ❤️ your comment but Aha, AAAAAaaaAaAaAaaaAAAAA??
@jymcotton9904
@jymcotton9904 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video young man. You are very talented. Wish I had you in my studio for a weekend of remodeling.
@stevetragg
@stevetragg 3 жыл бұрын
I love Pop Theory. Continue with it!
@Edward-W
@Edward-W 7 жыл бұрын
Luckily there are singers who can actually sing
@ReeseafiqProduction
@ReeseafiqProduction 7 жыл бұрын
I like this series keep it up pls, im trying to be a producer
@lyricbot8513
@lyricbot8513 7 жыл бұрын
ReeseXonthemic good luck. I'm tying to be a singer.
@h0lemzinspiration72
@h0lemzinspiration72 7 жыл бұрын
Yo Kennedy Good luck,im trying to be a rich guy.
@ciri151
@ciri151 7 жыл бұрын
Good luck, I'm trying to kill my self.
@danielyourestillachad5542
@danielyourestillachad5542 7 жыл бұрын
Good luck, I'm trying to get a job
@bveracka
@bveracka 5 жыл бұрын
You can fix vocals for sure, but lyrics are a different story. 😆 Great video; I loved it. 👍
@Wis_Dom
@Wis_Dom 5 жыл бұрын
This is why old school singers are STILL the best!
@FoxymoronOfficial
@FoxymoronOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Even the songs you like that aren't 'pop' I can almost guarantee have some kind of light pitch correction going on. It's just the industry standard now and it doesn't necessarily mean the artist can't sing.
@MrsPinkyThoughts
@MrsPinkyThoughts 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Likes Trees T Pain mastered this
@its_just_isaac
@its_just_isaac 5 жыл бұрын
Nope just take the "live version" of the song. Problem solved
@Eman-vp6ju
@Eman-vp6ju 5 жыл бұрын
FUTMZ Jesus take off the tinfoil hat already. Tons of pop singers today can legitimately sing. It’s not like it’s up to them what the producers do with their voices in the studio.
@logkmusic5877
@logkmusic5877 5 жыл бұрын
I think that depends on what stage the singer is at in their career and what kind of management, label, and contract they're under. Some of the more seasoned artists probably have more control in the producers they work with and how they produce the song. Other than that, I agree with you :)
@toyotaecw
@toyotaecw 5 жыл бұрын
Tell me again how Phil Bozeman uses pitch correction?
@hoshea4
@hoshea4 6 жыл бұрын
It's also allowed a tremendous amount of people to enter the industry who have no business being there in the first place.
@johnyang799
@johnyang799 6 жыл бұрын
Yeshai Vankurin sex sells bruh.
@misstahj5651
@misstahj5651 6 жыл бұрын
Like the beatles, led zepplin, all the white jazz singers from the 20th century, and any other white artist from that time period who just stole their sound from black people. (Led Zepplin is my fav band of all time but I'll call a spade a spade.)
@bambostarla6259
@bambostarla6259 6 жыл бұрын
Misstah J Their sound. Careful there. What yoy stated is true, but the people you mentioned were very skilled and talented. Its different when people who have little to no skill enter an industry just because the manager needs a pretty face for marketing
@EmeliaSings
@EmeliaSings 6 жыл бұрын
The people who make it are there because people keep listening to them though. You just gotta keep listening and doing what you want, and surround yourself with those kinds of people. I don't feel like we should restrict the music industry, people should be able to do whatever they want as long as they're not hurting anybody. And as long as nobody is forcing you to listen to someones music, you aren't really getting hurt. :)
@skuzza405
@skuzza405 5 жыл бұрын
shit music is going to be around no matter what, it’s not autotune’s fault. besides, not all of songwriting is in performance, what if you’re an amazing songwriter but can’t sing worth a damn? it boils down to more than “auto tune bad 😡”
@sirbattlecat
@sirbattlecat 5 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this video I didn't think I would learn so thanks :)
@midsoulmusic
@midsoulmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Want more of these!!
@tedthought
@tedthought 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job - even the Beatles explored with all the possibilities they had - speeding up, slowing down, backwards tracking, duplicating voices and took their voices to the tech limits of their day
@perfectwhine742
@perfectwhine742 6 жыл бұрын
Ted Olsen which was only for parts of songs at most. They used tech for specific sounds and feelings, not to compensate for a complete lack of skill and talent lol
@lolxdroflmao
@lolxdroflmao 6 жыл бұрын
The difference is, they could SING, unlike the modern day "singers".. :D
@tedthought
@tedthought 6 жыл бұрын
While I agree that the Beatles could sing well, many of today's singers have tremendous voices but are still auto-tuned
@tedthought
@tedthought 6 жыл бұрын
This is a generalization that overstates reality. Some singers are not that good, but there are many singers today who have amazing voices - even so I would not buy their music because I don't enjoy their music
@perfectwhine742
@perfectwhine742 6 жыл бұрын
Ted why would they auto tune if they have great voices? It's a serious question
@emmceeee
@emmceeee 7 жыл бұрын
Did 4:14 naturally occur? If so, that's astounding synchronicity! ♫ Cheers!
@einsteinalbert8372
@einsteinalbert8372 2 жыл бұрын
Been searching for this for months now. Finally found it.
@JulioHahn
@JulioHahn 3 жыл бұрын
This is good information dude! Thanks
@OzillionPlay
@OzillionPlay 7 жыл бұрын
0:32 wow, throwing shade.
@RoomieOfficial
@RoomieOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
She's an actress, and Louise is not her real name ;)
@timschulze4162
@timschulze4162 Ай бұрын
Can we still get the Single Version of LOUISE - On my own?
@frisout
@frisout 7 жыл бұрын
Autotune is a good thing... as long as you dont notice it. Once you can hear a song has autotune its shit
@persephone9307
@persephone9307 7 жыл бұрын
frisout Like Jacob Saggytits
@FirebladeXXL
@FirebladeXXL 7 жыл бұрын
thats not true, sometimes the robotic sound of tpain style autotune is nice.
@lucyisnotonchairs664
@lucyisnotonchairs664 7 жыл бұрын
+DatVocals! Yeah auto-tune can be really nice for example -'nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks' by Panic!AtTheDisco has a really cool tone with the help of auto tune
@frisout
@frisout 7 жыл бұрын
When autotune is intentionally noticable it may be good but that was not the point I was trying to make
@jdog7063
@jdog7063 7 жыл бұрын
frisout lil boat
@lancerben4551
@lancerben4551 Жыл бұрын
I hear clear pitch corection on the first sample... The second sample just has a slightly faster correction that makes it sound more unnatural.
@JoeTheDauntless
@JoeTheDauntless Жыл бұрын
Same. I was like nahhh, that can’t be his actual singing voice. It sounds unnatural.
@autumnleaves9318
@autumnleaves9318 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I can't believe I'm watching this again. This was the first Roomie video I ever saw. He should make more informative videos again 😁😍
@ryangouthro7083
@ryangouthro7083 6 жыл бұрын
*video tapes guy playing drums* *uses the most unrealistic drum samples ever made for the recording*
@DiegoSita
@DiegoSita 5 жыл бұрын
Thankfully someone else noticed
@usernamesarestupid
@usernamesarestupid 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you haven't uploaded since last year!
@karqus9810
@karqus9810 7 жыл бұрын
George Bryans He's uploaded many times. I've been getting his notifications
@usernamesarestupid
@usernamesarestupid 7 жыл бұрын
The Eight Five Nine I'll just sit here and wait for you to get the joke.
@phike8870
@phike8870 7 жыл бұрын
Kappakappa duk That's literally the joke man
@usernamesarestupid
@usernamesarestupid 7 жыл бұрын
Filip Porend he was explaining to The Eight Five Nine
@phike8870
@phike8870 7 жыл бұрын
George Bryans Oh, right. I'm still getting used to the new comments in the YT mobile app. Sorry
@Robert44444444
@Robert44444444 5 жыл бұрын
I applaud this guy for making his case in a short 5 min video. He's not editorializing here with a value judgement (except for the click-bait-y usage of the word "cheat" in the video's title). He's just explaining/educating… nice. Assuming you have an audio interface for your computer with good A/D converters , a good mic & pre-amp… Pick your favorite DAW: Pro Tools, Logic, Ableton Live, Cubase, Digital Performer, Sonar… add AutoTune (if you want the branded product, there are other pitch quantizing software tools that work well too), add Melodyne, and/or Revoice Pro 4 and YES, once you've learned how to use these tools you can make singers who otherwise wouldn't sound good, sound good (in the modern pop music sense anyway).
@KittyPurrnaz
@KittyPurrnaz 5 жыл бұрын
This video is so informative to me thank you so much!
@ijustwannacommentnotmyreal9814
@ijustwannacommentnotmyreal9814 7 жыл бұрын
You're a musical GENIUS man
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 6 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT introduction video to understand autotune. Nicely done, little unneeded crap, except where providing some humor (the walk by guy was hilarious), and good information and demonstrations.
@SeanOwenMusic
@SeanOwenMusic 4 жыл бұрын
You’re the man Roomie! 🤘🏼
@TheJroddude
@TheJroddude 5 жыл бұрын
Another ringer. This one made me hit that Bell Icon! 🛎
@tommyboybr
@tommyboybr 5 жыл бұрын
I want a autotune in my throat so I can sing all the time perfectly hahahaha
@sverigeofiltrerat4338
@sverigeofiltrerat4338 5 жыл бұрын
What is a autotune
@tommyboybr
@tommyboybr 5 жыл бұрын
willwall it’s what they are saying on the video hahaha It’s like a program that artists can use to add some effects on the voice, kinda robotic and unnatural, to “correct” the frequency and notes, usually when it’s a high note.
@isaacdario8815
@isaacdario8815 5 жыл бұрын
He is talking about the "a before autotune, which should not be there because autotune ins not a physical object
@tommyboybr
@tommyboybr 5 жыл бұрын
JASON gg thanks for clarifying that man.
@BloopShow
@BloopShow 5 жыл бұрын
Most venues nowadays have autotune racks. :)
@godwantsplastic
@godwantsplastic 6 жыл бұрын
Sound engineers have been “cheating” for decades. If tuning and adding effects is cheating then I cheat every time I play guitar. One thing you can’t fake is a good song. You can fake the performance but if the song sucks nothing will help.
@davids4003
@davids4003 5 жыл бұрын
Effects (overdrive, tremolo, noise gates, etc) ≠ autotune. Autotune would be taking my guitar that's physically tuned to Eb A D# Eb Bb F and correcting the output using software to make it sound like it was physically tuned to E A D G B E (Standard tuning).
@DiegoSita
@DiegoSita 5 жыл бұрын
J C & a.m. remorse Keep up guys, I'm enjoying this conversation a lot. It sums up each one of my thoughts on the subject.
@watsonvision
@watsonvision 5 жыл бұрын
Is it really cheating. Fuck. If it helps people make other people smile... then it's perfect. Fuck. Why are you not going AFTER EVERY FUCKING SELFIE IN AMERICA?
@watsonvision
@watsonvision 5 жыл бұрын
i LOVE YOUR GUITAR COMMENT. GENIUS.
@user-kl8om9su3c
@user-kl8om9su3c 5 жыл бұрын
+Scott Watson YES WATSON SHERLOCK IS PROUD OF U KEEP IT UP
@ProfessorSaibertin
@ProfessorSaibertin 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man.
@bankhead9285
@bankhead9285 5 жыл бұрын
good vid man!
@MunkyChunk
@MunkyChunk 7 жыл бұрын
If you're here watching this video after I left this comment then hello person from the future, I welcome you from the past.
@RoomieOfficial
@RoomieOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Please turn on notifications - I don't upload very often, but when I do it's good stuff! Appreciate you all 👊
@prabhjot8126
@prabhjot8126 7 жыл бұрын
RoomieOfficial already done you are great
@AppleberrySmith
@AppleberrySmith 7 жыл бұрын
I had mine turned on too!
@robertus783
@robertus783 7 жыл бұрын
RoomieOfficial 👊🏻
@josheayy4359
@josheayy4359 7 жыл бұрын
Do you really think like rock artists use much auto tune cause your talking about pop now...
@hilaryelizabeth4644
@hilaryelizabeth4644 7 жыл бұрын
RoomieOfficial i love your videos 😍 and this is so true when u think about
@fightrrrrr
@fightrrrrr 5 жыл бұрын
Well explained, great visuals, sounded very intelligent and well spoken
@NinjaJay2001
@NinjaJay2001 5 жыл бұрын
Dude the short bit of his singing at the start is amazing it sounds like imagine dragons :O
@treswaluyadiy
@treswaluyadiy 7 жыл бұрын
0:29 Kinda feel bad for Louise..
@aquaprofile
@aquaprofile 7 жыл бұрын
I think vocal production is a good thing for music. Lots of the electronic genres make use of it in my opinion, in a very good way.
@RoomieOfficial
@RoomieOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
+VelocityRewinds agreed
@artwayz
@artwayz 3 жыл бұрын
"... and then buy me a dog" - dead 🤣
@michaelrocha7159
@michaelrocha7159 5 жыл бұрын
Did I use pitch correction on my vocals in the studio? Yes, to fix some small mistakes where I kept missing the right note. But you bet your ass I played that song in the car and sang along to it for hours to help me sound as good as the recording!!!
@cl4911
@cl4911 7 жыл бұрын
loving this new series, Roomie! keep it up!
@matbroomfield
@matbroomfield 7 жыл бұрын
Of course it's cheating. It allows people with no actual musical ability to pretend that they have some. It enables studios to choose "stars" based upon their looks and persona for easy packaging to the tasteless masses.
@alejandrocorona1766
@alejandrocorona1766 6 жыл бұрын
Well said
@justmayo6097
@justmayo6097 6 жыл бұрын
Mat Broomfield what about sia though lol
@MrWafflejam
@MrWafflejam 6 жыл бұрын
Mat Broomfield but it's not cheating? Everyone can autotune but not everyone knows how to make it sound good.
@calebhohneke8482
@calebhohneke8482 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, there is nothing wrong with slight pitch correction. Artists who use it in massive amounts are a little meh to me....But if you are adjusting certain notes that are flat by 10-15% pitch correction, I wouldn't call that cheating. I use it every now and then on my recordings, but I try to go for the best possible take I can throw out and then do post EQ'ing/slight pitch correction. If you can replicate it live to the point of where people say it sounds good like the song on the album, then you're in the clear. There is a limit with pitch correction where it starts to sound robotic (Usually around 40-50%). That's the range of pitch correction that always makes me cringe haha.
@newdizzy1846
@newdizzy1846 6 жыл бұрын
Mat Broomfield you're so simple, you need to be somewhat accurate to for the autotune to not sound like shit. It comes down to the fact you probbably listen to metal or rock and think your singers have skill, I'll tell you autotune is probbably the most prominent in heavy metal you pleb, as for the drumming in that shit, teach a 5 year old to bang out the double kick as fast as you can and bam u got a beat..
@FreakyFeline88
@FreakyFeline88 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad there aren't any more vidoes of this series. This was really interesting.
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