Why I won’t switch to the Panasonic Lumix S5II …

[@TeppoHaapoja]

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[@77dris]

That cropped 4K on the A7IV and S5II is one of many reasons I got the R6 Mark II.... same price, but full frame oversampled 4K60 goodness! Plus much less rolling shutter than the A7IV and S5II, and much faster photo FPS for photography.

[@prestonurvina]

From R6 to S5 and waiting on my S5II pre-order. Great vid Teppo

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Nice Preston! Your gonna love it!

[@Imageyenation]

What a great outing! You’ll look back on these days with fondness. Keep the collabs coming!!!

[@raksh9]

One of the worst things about being a KZbinr is the system making you create clickbait titles just so people look at your work. The trick is delivering on that clickbait.

[@ParsclickTV]

I have an S5 I think the wobble is because you have the boost Ibis turned on with E stabilisaton together. turn off boost and try.

[@PressRec]

that will solve it al

[@ParsclickTV]

@@PressRec s5 II is amazing now we have af it’s even better. I personally think Vlog is better than slog.

[@notjonniecandito7224]

I dont think that's it. I have an S5 as well, and boost IBIS looks very different than this active stabilization. Boost causes a hard swing when panning, but not a wobble. This wobble is a deep issue I fear, as Canon tried so hard to fix it through firmware and never did fully.

[@ParsclickTV]

@@notjonniecandito7224 I don’t get a wobble when turning off Boost I.S. You can turn on IBIS and E stabilization but activating boost as well will cause wobble for me. That’s for small movements like you said panning for photos

[@notjonniecandito7224]

@@ParsclickTV Do you have the S5ii or just the original S5? The wobble is specifically in the S5ii at 24mm and below, and every KZbinr demo Ive seen has those modes turned off and its still there, since its a complex issue w/ the new active stablization. I'll get the S5ii soon and see for myself as well, hope you're right, but the movement doesnt look similar to me to the boost and I'd find it odd if Estab was on for this video. Just doesnt seem intuitive to have that on.

[@danwerner9016]

Absolutely loved this series. Great videos Teppo

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Thanks Dan! Glad u enjoyed them.

[@tonymollengarden]

Absolutely loved this mini 3 part series! Also, Peter if you see this, time to start either consulting on Avata rescues or becoming a life coach on Perseverance! The S5II does seem like an overall great camera, thanks for doing the review on it. Looking forward to the next one as always!

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Glad you enjoyed the series 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@HiethGeorge]

I am not swapping either Teppo just uploading my video on why I am staying with my Canon R6 MKII and Canon R3 - the Lumix S5II is awesome but I primarily take photos with video being second and have invested thousands into my Canon bodies and Lens. Love the drone footage and Search & Rescue of the AVATA, absolutely awesome honest review and great fun cheers Hieth

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Haha thanks bro!

[@9adriano21]

Yeah, the a7Siii cost almost twice much, so wouldn’t make much sense to trade-down to an entry-level FF camera like the S5II. But for those of us with the a7IV, 7c or older Sonys, the S5II is almost a no brainer.

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Very true!

[@9adriano21]

@Big Cook same here, I sold my a7IV. Yeah the advantages of the Sony are “marginal”, compared to a lot of features that LUMIX has and Sony does not. Frame markers, video Timelapse, waveforms, shutter angle, open gate. Those are things that significantly improve workflow and shooting experience, where’s I’ve never have anyone (including customers) notice if I shot 120p in HD instead of 4K

[@ScreenFiends]

No point moving systems for no good reason. The A7SIII is awesome, but I'd rather the Panasonic as I think it just edges it as hybrid camera due to the megapixel count. 12mp is ok for a lot of things but not really product and portraiture unfortunately.

[@chcomes]

was exactly my case. 10 bit nice vlog with all those options in Sony is only if spending so much more money... and still jerky stabi

[@samiabamia]

curious to know what would be a better option a7iii or Panasonic g5? planning to film interviews mostly and capture video content

[@JakeBlackstaffe]

theses series are great! im really enjoying this style

[@waynewrz]

Glad Peter found his drone... again. Looks like y'all had a great trip man. Thanks for bringing us along.

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Haha hes one lucky son of a gun!

[@JSCreative1]

Always enjoy your vids man!

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Thanks man, awesome to have you here!

[@JohnGrogans]

The snowy forest with the sunset looks so sick.

[@jklphoto]

Wow, stunning location! Great job Matti...I mean Teppo!

[@BarefootMediaTV]

noo stop confusing us sony fanboys! but the footage actually does look better :/

[@BarefootMediaTV]

its so much sharper/realistic. but that stabilization is awful and warpy.

[@ScreenFiends]

​@@BarefootMediaTV The IS in the S5II is markedly better than anything put out by Sony/ Canon. This is a fairly well known and excepted fact.

[@BarefootMediaTV]

@@ScreenFiends it is stronger on the panasonic. but if it warps at all ever i would never use it. I saw a few weird warps in this video so would leave it off.

[@xanperia]

@@BarefootMediaTV Someone in some video adjusted some settings that pretty much fixed this problem. Can't remember who that was or what he did unfortunately. I've been watching too many videos about that camera.

[@xanperia]

@@BarefootMediaTV I want one too! But it's so expensive. It really depends where you come from, in our country the body costs us almost 1,5x average salaries.

[@Ingemann.]

I could watch these all day, love these mini series!

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Thanks! Glad u enjoyed them.

[@AlexPresa]

Would be an interesting video to see how you colour grade your v-log!

[@TeppoHaapoja]

🙌🙌🙌

[@MrEddieNunez]

Epic trip and you made some really great points about the Lumix S5II. The grade looks fantastic! VLOG is incredible. The wobble reminds me of Peter McKinnon and his Canon cameras, LOL.

[@thaticelandicguy]

LOVED it man! And oh my Peter found the drone again hahahaha

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Hes a machine!!!

[@thaticelandicguy]

@@TeppoHaapoja an animal!

[@nick_a_pagan]

I'm getting one to supplement my sl2-s, but I can totally understand why someone wouldn't switch over if they already have a system that works for them.

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Nice Nick! And yes, its true.

[@chisholm.studios]

Teppo really enjoyed the series of videos, great seeing creators meeting up and having a great time together, your review of the Panasonic Lumix S5II was great now thinking between this and the canon r6 mk 2. great video

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Thanks man!

[@pierrebauduin1615]

This series is one of the best vlogs you've done recently in my opinion! Love the vibes, mix between vlog in friends and camera test. Really enjoy it! Btw got a question about all these cameras: what about the battery? Same for the phone. Did you have to change battery a lot of with cold?

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Batteries all lasted very well, even in the cold! Glad you enjoyed the series.

[@urbanstreet_4282]

Seems like the wobble only appears when you activate boost and/or e-stabilization.

[@wildlifehouse]

For wildlife, bird and macro videography, using the new Sigma 60-600mm, would you go with the Panasonic Lumix S5II or Sony A7IV? Thanks!

[@austinvu1941]

Lumix S5II is betteron video side and kinda suck with fast movements like wifelife or bird photography.

[@wildlifehouse]

@@austinvu1941 thank you!

[@darealphantom]

Thanks for confirming I made a great purchase with the S5ii, your videos look so crispy and good, question did you use an variable nd while filming on the S5ii?

[@elvinhsen]

I appreciate filming on such a cold weather.... in my country is about minus 5 now...but it is so cold when you are holding that cold metal camera...;D even with gloves

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Oh my hands were dieingggg 😂

[@ProjectLabz]

What lens did you use on the S5ii

[@melissaparks5947]

So Beautiful. I have NEVER seen that much snow. I would be the same on looking for anything I may have lost especially a drone 😀

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Northern Finland is gorgeous for sure!

[@sunlit777]

So was this video shot mainly on s5 ii?

[@donwarren3253]

What about open gate recording? Only panasonic does that

[@sudipchand2371]

I want great image for video and also I want convenience and future proof at the same time.. I am very new and have not invested in any camera brand but want to go either with Lumix or Sony... If you were me what would you choose and why??

[@jo.digital]

great video man-have you tried the Z9 for video before?

[@martineldridge1319]

I'm a wildlife photographer/Film maker, the only long wildlife lenses for the S5 II seem to be the Sigma 150-600mm f5-6.3 Sports DG DN OS Lens or the Sigma 100-400 which doesn't have a Lens foot so unable to attach it to a Tripod which it a shame. I was thinking about the Oly OM-1 but thats super noisy at high ISO and I don’t think the auto focus is that good for Video when tracking Birds/animals. I currently have the Canon R5 with 100-500 but I'm getting really strange miccro jitters when close focussing with that setup, which is driving me mad. The IBIS on the 5S II looks amazing in video, I’m very interested to hear how good the Video AF performs.

[@wildlifehouse]

Does the new Sigma 60-600mm work with the S5ii?

[@jaredcollins-photo]

Yoooo... What's the song in the opening sequence? It has major TRON vibes and I love it!

[@gbwalther3198]

What about the lack of firmware updates for your Sony cam? Would u buy that cam again if u knew that was going to happen? 😎😎

[@Jordan-ts6lh]

At 100fps does it crop only once or even more times? Tech is getting exciting nowadays 👀

[@vshvarts]

Hi Teppo! What do you think is better for 50-60fps shooting: fx30 or s5ii? This crop on panasonic is the only thing that keeps me from getting it.

[@DrWNoLs]

The Fx30 will be drastically sharper. I have all Panasonics, the S1, S5, S5ii now. And all of them are noticably softer at 4k 60 fps. It's really noticable. Almost looks like a 3k image. But the full frame look on 6k is still great.

[@vshvarts]

@@DrWNoLs now I’m thinking about canon r8

[@DLivingston]

That is crazy it crops that much going into a higher frame rate. Hope the trip was good dude!

[@notjonniecandito7224]

Not crazy at all, given the A74 crops exactly the same amount for 60 fps in 4k. And that camera is 2500 dollars. There is simply no full frame camera that's 2000 dollars or less that crops less at 4k.

[@DLivingston]

​@@notjonniecandito7224 I may be wrong but the Canon R6 can be had for 2k ish and I don't think the crop is that strong in 4k 60.

[@gilcarag274]

@@DLivingston 1.07x crop I think but it’s because it’s a 20mpx sensor instead of the 26 of the S5II.

[@notjonniecandito7224]

@@DLivingston Thats true, and the best example on the market. But the R6 ii is still 2,499 and up. A 20% increase in price vs the S5ii. At 2000 and under, there is simply nothing near the Panasonic, let alone Dpreview saying the S5ii is flat out better for video all things considered. The Canon would be my 2nd best option, if it were me, with Panasonic first and A74 third. Hard to go wrong, but its easy to forget how substantial 500 dollars is.

[@DLivingston]

@@notjonniecandito7224 I’m talking about the r6 not the mark ii. Could be bought used for 2ish.

[@benjhaisch]

bro, when are we going to get a trip sponsored like this???

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Lets dooo it!

[@techtechuw597]

wobble is due to EIS on when its not needed. Turn that off.

[@fotomaton7852]

What lens was this shot on?

[@PaulFeinberg]

Great series!! Another banger! Next collab Sidney Diongzon! Or come to NAB and we will both be there lol 😂

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Oh how fun would that be!

[@PaulFeinberg]

@@TeppoHaapoja super fun do it!!! Lol

[@NorwayHikesTrails]

Nice video, beautiful views 👍

[@wendywitzig119]

Awesome video, you guys are so fun together! Thoughts on A7S3 in 2023? I have a A7IV and thinking about selling my A73's.

[@TeppoHaapoja]

A7SIII still a great camera in 2023

[@jamessonfield]

A7siii will be great for years to come!

[@ReimaginedAdventures]

top notch love it

[@AoyagiAichou]

Well, at to moment you cannot have good IBIS without wobble at the same time, unfortunately. It would be great if someone made an ultrawide algorithm, like disabling the axes that cause the wobble to begin with.

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Agreed! For people who dont vlog it works great though

[@martykauffman]

I love the snow

[@IntrovertAmateur]

It was really fun to see and watch the Northern Musketeers in this series 😁 Hope you guys have the chance to redo it again soon - in case your wives and children allows it 😅

[@TeppoHaapoja]

The wives were very generous to allow us 😂

[@EasyTigerCreative]

It’s a great camera! Just sadly I’m invested in Sony already! If I was barely choosing a new camera system it would be enticing from the price point!

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Almost every camera is a great choice these days :) dont you fret!

[@EasyTigerCreative]

@@TeppoHaapoja so true! Just gotta find the one that checks off most of your list wishes and you’re set! Sony just has been great with third party lenses honestly that’s one of their biggest advantage.

[@DroseMr]

Awesome.Thank You

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Glad u enjoyed it!

[@barryfinnimore]

Looks amazing but low funds right now as I bought a bmd pocket 4k last year.

[@TeppoHaapoja]

All good, use the gear u got!

[@zaiddagamseh]

yeah the wobble is kinda wild...6:58

[@kylehessling2679]

This camera looks amazing but I have to say one thing I love about the “bad” sony ibis is that it never wobbles; not even at 14mm! And if I need gimbal steady than I just use catalyst browse, at least it doesn’t ruin the shot! Other than that Panasonic is really killing it, and it would be so cool to use that ibis at like 35mm or so!

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Sony IBIS is great for that!

[@PressRec]

the s5 has no wobble with the right settings

[@ONITMedia]

@@PressRec what are the right settings? I’m looking to buy it but the wobble is the only thing stopping me

[@PressRec]

@@ONITMedia you got to turn off boost and E-stabilization, that's all! Operational mode needs to stay on, otherwise no stabilization at all

[@TheGirlSkateBoardCo]

I had to fast forward a bunch of times to find the “review”. Didn’t finish the video. Won’t be coming back.

[@cassijoanna]

Wow your audio commentary in the beggining sounds really rushed fyi

[@johnbarleycorndoe]

it.s because youtubers use hfr every time they run of things to say. through some slowmo b-roll meaningless eyecandy shots and need 60fps all the time, as if they are surrounded by walls and can.t step back all the time again. as if aps-c isn.t a big enough sensor for them. should i remind you what companies also use smaller then full frame sensors?

[@markshirley01]

£2400 with the 20-40 kit lens and the 50 f1.8. Bargain. But the camera I really want is the A7R5 and the Tamron 20 - 40. Its the rear screen, its just idel for my work.

[@TeppoHaapoja]

True eh!?

[@IAmBPala]

I am shocked he even found it haha

[@365BS]

Imo Lumix performs better than A7IV in video.

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Could very well be so!

[@catattackcat8754]

Be careful about the S5II, Panasonic has made some changes since the GH6. The image quality is not as good as before except with vlog, skin textures are rough or simply gone in low light. I wanted to upgrade from the GH6 to the S5II but the S5II has the same shitty texture. I'm so happy I kept my S1.

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Thats unfortunate!

[@AsuquoTravelsProductions]

You are talking nonsense and sounds like you don’t have the camera and just making an opinion off someone’s else bad settings mistakes.

[@catattackcat8754]

​@@AsuquoTravelsProductions Do you have both the S1 and S5 ii ? If not you should stop talking about what you can't view and judge by yourself. I have both camera and I'm debating if I must return it or not because of this difference in IQ with the cine and natural profiles, too much noise reduction. There is no bad setting mistake, my first Lumix camera was the GH1 and there is a good chance I've used more camera from this brand than you did, so I know exacty how to test image quality. IQ is the same only on V-LOG.

[@OshakaTamu]

nice 👍👍

[@TeppoHaapoja]

🙌🙌🙌

[@elwick_photo]

I'm glad your so honest about the Panasonic, it's not a bad piece of kit, it's a great price... But really it's just caught up. It strikes me as odd the sheer number of vloggers ditching their a7siii's for what is an expensive investment for a series of cameras and lenses they have no hardware in when they already have an a7siii 🤷‍♂️ guess maybe they're one of those 80+ people Panasonic gave a full suite of camera and lenses to for "long term" loan, just seems odd to me.

[@chadstarbucks5719]

Yeah. Cause Sony didn’t give A7S3 to all the KZbinrs already too 🙄

[@sergiypervun]

Talking about slow motion BTW... Lumix S5II and S5IIX don't have new Phase Detect AF in 1080p full frame 50,60,100 and 120 FPS but only old Contrast AF which is the biggest disappointment... So for some reason people who prefer to shoot 1080p FF in slow-mo from 50 to 120 fps they should do that with old glitchy Contrast base AF. Same for all of those who were hoping to upscale 1080p 50-120 fps to 4k - no PDAF. And taking into account it's a video-oriented hybrid camera, it looks like without a firmware update in the next several months almost perfect camera becomes garbage. I preordered S5IIX and now looking forward to the firmware update. Hope they will fix it by the time S5IIX ships. If not - will just move to another brand.

[@Motive-action]

you dont switch because you and you brother work for Sony

[@TeppoHaapoja]

HA I wish Sony was paying me for using their gear. I honestly just use what works best for me.

[@JoATTech]

Panasonic crying in its lair ... no one is switching .... I actually might, but to S5IIX :D So like 50 more days :P.

[@unknowncaller4739]

I’m done I can’t keep up 😂

[@TeppoHaapoja]

😂😂😂

[@mandurahchess]

Maybe you should cut it irrelevant preamble. I came to see about the S5 II. Not your worldwide circlem of imaginary friends.

[@MaddyandSascha]

First :D

[@TeppoHaapoja]

You guys are awesome!

[@oscarm4154]

who cares 🤣

[@cezar_visual_artist]

No one cares