Why Ibram X. Kendi Won't Last | Glenn Loury & John McWhorter | The Glenn Show

[@cjpapasito]

The fact that Kendi won’t debate and defend his ideas in public is a good sign his ideas will fade because they can’t hold up to rigorous scrutiny.

[@dontarguewithidiots7459]

I wish I could believe you. I WANT to believe you. But people are emotional, tribal, and easily led Reinforced by social media. I want to believe we are coming out of this soon, but it's gonna take a while

[@Brotherken1234]

@@dontarguewithidiots7459 Especially black folk.

[@HappyRoach1]

@@dontarguewithidiots7459 , Its hard to say. I have motto that I always like to say "It can't sustain itself" in certain situations. As powerful as the SJWs/Woke/Thought Police/Political Correctness Nazis are in the African American community are. When the people that they support to fix it, can't fix, and shit keeps getting worse. When we see innocent people becoming victims of violence on the news. When peoples' loved ones who never thought they would be next, become next. Sooner or later, these people will realize how all this Radical Leftist and black "leadership" devastated the African American community. I have seen recently a lot of black men moving to the center and the right. So there is hope. Then on the other hand. Other minority communities, have longed realized the Radical Leftism and demagogues are detrimental to their community and never let it have a stronghold like it does in the African American community. So why hasn't the African American realized that they have been exploited and hustled by black "leadership" despite the numerous and abundant proof that there is. I believe its the Matriarchal society that African Americans live in. Women tend to be more emotional and non-logical, plus easily get hypnotized by a charismatic leaders. So it might not end.

[@MrVvulf]

The persistence of the problem is bigger than any one person, which is illustrated by the quote below. Notice what year is was written: “There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs - partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” ― written by Booker T. Washington in 1911

[@bushwacka5187]

@@MrVvulf Wow, great quote. Do you know in which book it was? Or was it a conference or something?

[@dakah11]

Prophetic words from John McWhorter.

[@snappingclam8801]

You guys called it right, well done!

[@maryjodavis2823]

I hope John McWhorter is right. But even if Kendi’s star fades quickly, we have a generation of kids being taught his book in school right now.

[@freddieoblivion6122]

What school? Doesn't rly matter, there's no grades.

[@225millionmilesaway]

@@justmyopinion9883 this comment didnt age well. you might want to read the news on his center at BU and all the allegations and probes going on rn. As usual McWhorter was right.

[@ninadaly7639]

That’s a problem. Especially now that we know he’s a crook.

[@KevinM-r8y]

Heard his organization is being investigated for financial misappropriation @@ninadaly7639

[@edwinamendelssohn5129]

He was

[@davidpennmiller354]

You called it!!!

[@Brotherken1234]

Blacks fundamental problem: Too many us are too emotional to have critical-thinking skills, high impulse control, and intellectual discernment. We gravitate towards the bombastic, stupendous, and sensational. A brotha can be wrong as hell, but if his rhetoric is forceful we'll side with him without regards to objective analysis. This is why so many race hustlers continue to thrive in my opinion.

[@brianmeen2158]

I’ve watched speeches delivered by Michael Eric Dyson and it was mostly propaganda but the way he delivered it - he had most of the black audience completely supporting every word .. I ask how does one counter this?

[@Brotherken1234]

​@@brianmeen2158 Damn good question Brian. I truly believe the most effective way to combat this to take the fight to them. 2. Don't allow them to use straw man analogies but cut them off and redirect them to the point. 3. STATS. They hate veritable statistics! 4. Have the debate at a neutral site with an intelligent audience. Like you said Brian, Dyson likes to have a low-informed, and emotional liberal audience, especially black people.

[@eagleeye6418]

And once a sister invokes religion or culture or seniority in birth order, it’s a wrap. I’ve seen this with both my African and African American female relatives. In some of their minds, to dare to contradict or question them, is sacrilegious. What’s most disconcerting about trying to reason with them is that it is increasingly difficult to predict which of the three she’ll invoke if asked to explain herself.

[@Brotherken1234]

@@eagleeye6418 Hey, if she mentions "In The Name of Jesus" it's a sho nuff rap. Reason and common sense flies straight out the window.

[@jamesdrake2378]

@@brianmeen2158 He filibusters in my estimation.

[@HostileTakeover555]

Thank you for showing clips and pictures when speaking about them. It helps me better realize who you’re talking about.

[@eljefe8149]

Kendi just tells people what they want to hear. You deserve billions of dollars. Damn straight I do.

[@UniqueBreakfastTaco]

This aged bery well, good sir. 👍

[@BloggerMusicMan]

Coleman Hughes is cut from a different cloth than a lot of the people you mentioned. He's not a genius (though he is plenty smart), but he is adaptable, hard working, curious, and personable with a lot of different interests and talents. Listening to his podcast always feels like a real learning experience, and I think he will get better as time goes on.

[@craigsmith1443]

I will take Coleman Hughes over a 'genius' any time. Coleman is thoughtful and very good at what he does. That's far better than genius.

[@ninagohlsson6053]

He's a versatile man with a versatile brain.

[@jones2277]

he has his weaknesses like all of them.

[@nestorbrown4718]

Coleman Hughes of Montclair, NJ is a substantive person. Very glad that he is part of your “posse” as I anticipate great contributions from him over the decades to come.

[@ianboard544]

I remember a story about painters in France in the 1800's. It started by tossing out a number of names with the question: "ever heard of them?". It turned out that in their day, they were huge - lionized in the media, critics loved them. They faded into obscurity, while virtually unknown (or even reviled) contemporaries such as Van Gogh, were only recognized as geniuses in the fullness of time. I think this is pretty common - real talent is rarely appreciated in the present and those that make a big splash and have their 15 minutes usually fade away.

[@py_a_thon]

In defense of someone such as Ibram X Kendi...I suppose the most relevant ideal is to look towards his life history, and perhaps his macro scale motivations beyond the monetization of words. Will his ideas stand the test of time? Probably not. Yet does he have some form of something worth listening to? Perhaps. If someone gave me one of his books for free, I would probably try to read said book. On occassion, he actually said a few ideas that made me think, even if I disagree with him and dislike how ideology is monetized or marketted in an activism form.

[@DavidKleinCalifornia]

This is really insightful. Maybe true genius is just hard to process. But it is intriguing and sticks. What is popular is titillating jusr like that Emperor dude who had me clothes.

[@mademsoisellerhapsody]

@@py_a_thon kendi was raised to accept and tolerate racism. That’s obvious. It takes REASON to reject racism. When racism is taught and tolerated in the home and even schools, Kendi types abound. Reject racism❤

[@nancydupuis8083]

Thank you both for your conversations. You are both very brave

[@remycallie]

How many people are here after Kendi's crash and burn at Boston University?

[@hope-cat4894]

🙋🏽‍♀️

[@TipToe67]

Me!

[@jerzaw]

Mad respect for both of you. Insightful, thoughtful and informative. Thank you from Portland Oregon

[@CyberChud2077]

Ibram Henry Rogers (his real name) won’t last because he barely understands the material he preaches. He’s the best example of a coattail rider I’ve seen in a long time.

[@fyrmanswanny9140]

This aged very well.

[@FreaksSpeaks]

Wow, spot on. 6 months ahead.

[@MImlac]

Always great stuff. What you say about versatility applies not only to Coleman Hughes but both of you as well. An engaging intellectual, regardless of politics, is one whose dialogue isn't always on "repeat" and can cover many topics thoughtfully and with civility. Thanks for sharing.

[@vaguelyvagrant9694]

Never get discouraged. There are more people supporting your views than you probably know.

[@dale9724]

Two great intellectual leaders. Thank you.

[@PhongLe-od6fo]

The reason why Michael Eric Dyson sticks around is because he dance and rap for white progressives. Either Kendi and Coates dance, or the progressives will discard them.

[@noeltaylor3594]

He dances? Oh, like Loury and McWorther?

[@PhongLe-od6fo]

@@noeltaylor3594 Loury and McWorther stopped dancing years ago.

[@noeltaylor3594]

@@PhongLe-od6fo Ya' know, if that enables you to better digest your next meal, have ai it. My problem with these two, like Sowell, and Elder, and Owen's, and Peterson, and Silk, and . . .is that they know. Elvis said it best: " You know someone said the world's a stage and each must play a part" For all the knowledge that Loury, McWorther, and Sowell have amassed just among themselves, they should be ashamed.

[@PhongLe-od6fo]

@@noeltaylor3594 I like Loury, McWorther, Sowell, et al, because they think for themselves.

[@noeltaylor3594]

@@PhongLe-od6fo Think for themselves? Sure.

[@garyweglarz]

People who "think" and reason with rigor like you gentlemen do - "last" - those who simply spout the latest designer ideological positions of the day - do not. As public discourse becomes ever less rational and ever more ideologically driven - you are both appreciated that much more. Thank you.

[@charles6762]

Imagine a time when two well educated intellectual men of this stature will not be relegated to a "racially based " conversation. Although not part of the victimhood race baiting cadre of misfits that falsely claim to represent the black community.Although still based in the black experience which so easily could be elevated to simply the human experience were it not for the need to address the black experience in America as a separate issue. Which it is and there certainly is a need for this discussion however their depth of perception is colored by their limitations of experience and the clash of cultures surrounding them. We as their audience nonetheless are gifted with their insight ,humor and humanity . In the desert of insanity that surrounds us all you guys provide a welcome drink of clear refreshing sustenance.

[@gen_xecutioner]

Keep in mind we’re dealing with an industry. Kendi fades, someone else takes his place. And it happens through multiple strata.

[@ericeverett2353]

A detail to add. People get tired of being talked AT and sooner or later, whether the guru ‘permits’ discourse on his assertions or not- and literally black white conclusions don’t hold up. The replacement guru with be facing an audience TIRED of that babble

[@winds10]

Prescient words by a wise man.

[@blueguise23]

You two were exactly right. I had to return to this video amid the impending fall of the charlatan Kendi.

[@TheNancypoo]

I love these men...

[@arizonared2000]

Kendi may not last, but he's already done his racist "anti-racist" damage.

[@twntwrs]

Mr. Coleman has the unfair advantage like Messrs Loury and McWhorter of only having two names.

[@ninagohlsson6053]

Or maybe the advantage - if we are talking about longevity. 😃

[@scottleespence752]

I didn't know babies could be racist.

[@MaskHysteria]

Kendi: "It's not good enough to not be racist. You *must* actively and aggressively pursue an agenda of 'anti-racism'." Me: "Who defines 'anti-racism' and who defines who the 'racists' are?" Kendi: "Me of course"

[@teddylovesit]

this aged perfectly

[@alberg6290]

Coleman is REASONABLE

[@jamesh318]

Turns out these guys were spot-on about Kendi. Two brilliant men here, legit thinkers, never touched the race grift, just used their minds and engaged honestly. Any black person on the race grift is immediately suspect afaic. Any one who isn’t, is just another person and needs to stand on their own two feet intellectually. I have enough respect for black Americans to expect every bit as much from them as I do from anyone else. Certain white leftists should give that a try.

[@SavetheRepublic]

The shame of our society is that men like this are not celebrated not only in the black community but all communities.

[@JakeEpooh]

I wish I could think half as clearly as these two gentlemen.

[@TessaTickle]

Al Sharpton's still around. Farrakhan is still around. Kendi will continue til the day he dies.

[@nestorbrown4718]

Maybe Kendi will latch onto the Gliders in Scientology and receive their “tech” via degrees and metered sessions.

[@cmcull987]

I must confess to a little happiness about Kendi's trouble with his foundation. But his ideas (and D'Angelo's) have already taken root in workplaces and schools around the country. I'm not optimistic this stuff will fade away even if Kendi does. He will likely still give presentations to groups and make gobs of money even if his academic star has fallen. I hope I'm wrong.

[@killa3x]

We can't get mad at kendi. The guy has a degree in africana studies. That's the program they put football players in. We all remember that. It's the program for low IQ unprepared wanna be scholars and football players. We all know that degree. Everyone would laugh at it behind closed doors but scared to say it was for low iq people. If anything, not debating is the smartest thing kendi can do.

[@adambarnard5561]

John is right again!

[@edwinamendelssohn5129]

Prophetic regarding Kendi

[@jwf2125]

It's looking right now as though IXK won't even last three years. 25-30 mil missing, almost no work accomplished, and him on "extended leave", coming back just in time to lay off half the staff. Glenn was right: he's an "empty suit".

[@michaelcavella4597]

How do you put Coleman in same frame as those clowns?

[@jitkablahakova3073]

These two guys could see right through the con artist months ago.

[@robertparnell4619]

He defined “racism” by saying “racism” 11 times in the definition.

[@mustang607]

There is a reason they call it, "circular logic."

[@chrishoward8473]

It seems to me that one of the major ways to kill intellectual development is by becoming a "darling" which can easily engulf youthful prodigy and minorities of any sort (racial, class, artistic, financial, personal identity, etc). Paternalism is the kiss of death. The tragedy is that many of our current appeals to cultural change are built on it.

[@EarthColonyNet]

My questions for both of you are these. Who are the intellectual fads and Intellectuals of substance writing? Who is reading their books by ethnicity?

[@ninadaly7639]

I am so glad to hear you like Coleman Hughes. I think he has an excellent mind, especially AT 27!! I see him as hope for the future. Very impressive young man. Please help him NOT burn out or become too jaded.

[@stvbrsn]

So the real questions are… Why is Dyson so damned enduring? And what can we do about that?

[@flexmasterson4297]

Dyson just keep rewriting the same book, different title. He is not an intellectual. His mentor is an intellectual, but, of course, he threw his mentor under the bus ina true testament to who and what he is about.

[@gapho5198]

Wish this was said earlier so the fine wine would be older, but I'll take this as a W.

[@NdxtremePro]

That last bit is the reason we must take history with a grain of salt, especially when later historians somehow "know" these famous figures better than their contemporaries.

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

This video aged well. Kendi is being savaged across the political spectrum as a grifter right now.

[@b.alexanderjohnstone9774]

They come and go (bad) ideas remain. Unfortunately.

[@damonlay7562]

I love Coleman Hughes, but I’ve seen him sometimes disregarding nuance and making some logical errors that I wouldn’t expect from someone if his stature.

[@jwf2125]

Well you know, he's still young. And he'll always be human.

[@gwjaconst11]

This aged well.

[@b.alexanderjohnstone9774]

Thomas Sowell ? Not of left and maybe that's the point. Deserves to be a household name IMO.

[@anthonybryant3038]

Prophetic.

[@playnejayne5550]

The second time I read How to Be an Antiracist, I thought of a nephew of mine. From the age of 4, he would arrange the rules of a game so he was guaranteed to win. Kendi anticipates the objections to his racist antiracism and labels them "racist". Okay. That was easy. This only works with credulous readers seeking wisdom at his feet.

[@ninagohlsson6053]

You've read it twice? My condolances.

[@playnejayne5550]

@@ninagohlsson6053 It's well-written in that the meaning is clear. The second time, I argued with it in the margins. Too bad that book was taken so seriously.

[@billf9129]

Prophet, and the world is very happy about that...

[@namehere4721]

I hope with everything I have that you are right.

[@RenegadeContext]

Coleman Hughes is a respectable and reflective individual. It's rare enough these days

[@covidity114]

What about Lowry and McWhorter? Where will they be in ten?

[@cbbcbb6803]

So, who reads James Baldwin, William Edward Burghardt Du Bois, the "Slave Narratives", and so many others? Everybody is eventually forgotten.

[@brianfunke981]

Coleman may outlast MSNBC.

[@powerandpresence5290]

Hmm. Seems John was right, and it didn’t take ten years for that to unfold - closer to ten months.

[@BartdeBoisblanc]

1:30 True! How often that has worked, in the short run.

[@jtavegia5845]

It is too late and the damage is done. The divided in this country can never be fixed and certain people will not let it.

[@jwf2125]

That's up to us.

[@robertmadison1205]

What about Briahna Joy Gray? Brilliant. Real. Comprehensive. Glen knows.

[@TerryStewart32]

And she’s very beautiful

[@mikemurillo1296]

Glenn!! What did Adolph say about you? I need to know.

[@Pasta-B1FBA]

The Beginning of the Beginning

[@geeropes]

How about a conversation on the merits of the ideas, arguments and assertions of the intellectuals you named?

[@amadeusdebussy6736]

Ah yes, Kendi, the PhD who used the word 'racist' in his definition of 'racist.'

[@noeltaylor3594]

Is inflation racist?

[@ninagohlsson6053]

That's the one! That is a remarcable clip. He actually gets laughed at, is asked to repeat the definition, repeats it, gets met with complete silence - and is happy as a clam when he goes on to state that "anti racism" simply is the exact opposite to the definition he just gave. And then he rests, contently, with a little smile, in another complete silence.

[@johnricercato740]

@@ninagohlsson6053The clip is hilariously awful, isn’t it? The white libs in the audience - who are desperate to be seen to approve ofKendi - just don’t know what to do or say.

[@derekbrown6161]

Ah I didn't realize melitha harrith pewwy had landed on npc radio, i thought she just went back to academia, but that makes sense. Also Coates has seemed to move into Hollywood writing, still doing comic books and writing a black superman movie.

[@johnnymarshall5828]

For Coates and Ibrahim to think they're on the same intellectual plane as either of these two great men is laughable.

[@tezonetoo1000]

Don’t kid yourself John. Many would agree. They just haven’t listened.

[@buckchile614]

Imagine arguing against antiracism. And criticizing Kendi for taking the money, while somebody like Candace Owens does the same thing(but is on your side--so it's okay.) Same thing, but overlooked.

[@headshotmaster138]

No one cares bot account

[@buckchile614]

@@headshotmaster138 You do not compute, Hayseed

[@headshotmaster138]

@@buckchile614 neither do you buddy.

[@buckchile614]

@@headshotmaster138 Yeah, but I can be reprogrammed. Your TDS has made you irreparably stupid

[@jonahtwhale1779]

Yes his message will endure. White people will be able to quote him and his ilk for generations because moderate people of colour did not shut him down.

[@billmelater6470]

The dude can't even define racism. Imagine making your whole life as a race baiter but you can't even define that word.

[@thevanbeard]

Coates took a shot at Jordan Peterson through a Marvel comic and has disappeared ever since. As a Peterson listener I wish he would interview you both again. You got him post illness and he was horrible at moderating himself when interviewing during that time. Both of your interviews and Jocko Willink’s interview are among his worst. (Then Richard Dawkins, but I think he was star struck lol.)

[@MrJustSomeGuy87]

Don’t forget about Kendi’s book: “Goodnight, Racism”……

[@evanfirebrand]

Coleman, yeah.

[@skyazrael5487]

I never this guy until y'all started mentioning him. 😆

[@RenegadeContext]

Are the educational disparities that exist in America between races exist in any other first world countries?

[@hettdog]

Because he’s intellectually dishonest. He’s a conman that is capitalizing on a specific guilt at this time in our history

[@dfwherbie8814]

Lol Glenn, the great Bill Buckley? Haha I hope that was sarcasm.

[@SANDS78]

Coleman is a great mind to have with us. Kendi is a total phony.

[@disf5178]

Loury needs to work on allowing McWhorter time to finish his thoughts.

[@TheWhitehiker]

A Johnny-come-lately on civil rights-- to say the minimum.

[@fredwild2166]

If only! Standards have plummeted so low that mediocrities IXK thrive!

[@paulblack5883]

Kendi X won't last beyond 5 years..our society consumes politcal movements so fast and moves on to the next.. Same goes with any author that rides on the wave of revising history..

[@jamesdrake2378]

The Takeaway will be no more this coming June.

[@mustang607]

Kendi was found to be another false profit. [sic]

[@kennethmueller5840]

Martin Luther King, lets start there brothers?

[@deladonics]

Bullish on Coleman

[@bromack3]

Hey John... its starting to look like you are right.

[@joedanker3267]

Kendi is a lightweight. You know it, I know it, and he knows it. He won't be around in 5 years, not in any influential capacity.

[@johnchristopher5733]

And he didn't!

[@kreatingsound4946]

Fads? Frauds.