Why Indian Car Brands Can't Go Global ft. Gagan Choudhary | Podcast

[@FasBeam]

A huge thanks to www.w4podcaststudio.com/ for lending us their studio for this podcast!

[@optripop2597]

le hi aaie jhoony ko akhir sun hi lie

[@shaikhashraf2867]

Nice debate 😂

[@shravan97]

Timestamps please 🙏🏻

[@bhushandandgavhal4995]

Faisal bro, after watching the video I agree to what Gagan said at the start - You could do this offline instead. TOO MANY interjections dude! I know that you guys are good friends but If you invite someone to share their knowledge then let them answer the questions, otherwise you can create your own video explaining the same thing if you know about the topic already. Dont take it wrong, just didn't like the flow of the podcast. Hope you will note this.

[@bhushandandgavhal4995]

Also, switch to a mic stand thats not attached to the table so that it remains stable while talking.

[@GaganChoudhary]

Petition for the Guest here to release a monologue of all the lines that he wanted to utter, but the host didn't let him. :p

[@shaktipratapsingh5669]

File an appeal

[@abhijitboruah1116]

Absolutely 💯

[@gampas7973]

agree

[@dibyajyoti_47]

true .

[@reagent69]

Agreed !! It was irritating faisal.

[@RockyT07-i]

Gagan Chaudhary to Fasbeam: Apun ko kuch to bolne de re bawaa!! 😂😂😂

[@aanshpaul185]

Faisal is the type of podcaster who invites guests but doesn’t let them speak. Still, it’s an awesome podcast, and I’m looking forward to more episodes like this.

[@mr.dominar]

Yes.. With Faisal less talking

[@_Deepak__Verma]

Bro let him speak he's dying to speak 😂

[@sujjo]

I was gonna say that. lol

[@Ishanbhardwaj05]

same

[@nitishflix]

Exactly yaar

[@ankitnayak1805]

Same here 😂

[@Aditya-yx5fu]

Le : Me and my Friend at the back of the class during Economics period 😂

[@yashmehta2510]

😂😂💯

[@ਵਰਮਾ]

😂💯

[@Jay-xt8sr]

😂😅 So True, at least for the other guy other than Gagan, Okay it's Faisal 😅

[@bhaskarsen7968]

Due to nirmala taai gst policy i can't grab popcorn so here i am my desi style poha

[@Satvik-Thakur7]

😂😂❤

[@bonjovi1354]

Chini may de sakta hu.. Lekin 18% k jagah.. Mereko 5% de diyo tai ko pata v nahi chalega bro​@@Satvik-Thakur7

[@gobimurugesan2411]

Do people really think Nirmala have power?

[@harshitgarg3436]

@@gobimurugesan2411 do people really think modi is this demon dictator not letting any of his ministers work? if she has no powers then why is gadkari credited for all the highways he is building but modi abused for the toll taxes? why is manmohan singh credited for the reforms that were brought under PM Narsimha Rao? Of course the final say is of the PM but ministers do have autonomy in their work.

[@bhaskarsen7968]

@@gobimurugesan2411 don't know

[@confluenceoftwoseas574]

100 % tax on cbu cars has significantly hampered the diversity thus bringing down the competitiveness in the Indian automobile market

[@hardiksharma5709]

2 best automobile reviewers together!

[@anuragsengar2390]

Its motorinc

[@TheZenith790]

lamdaaa best

[@soomanmahanta2659]

Gagan is 100% correct that majority Indian consumers do not have the financial ability and willingness to buy enthusiastic cars. Sad truth

[@-Blue-_]

GTI ane ke bad pata chal jayenga to chup reh abhi

[@zubinnagpal8818]

I agree with Gagan, it’s the customer who decides the market. Our country lacks enthusiastic culture. It’s building but it’s not much for the companies to take risk. We are more Value for money oriented.

[@sagarjackie7366]

Sub 4 metre with restriction on engine capacity for petrol and diesel was the idea of the expensive duffer advocate P Chidambaram.

[@aqshxo7861]

Reason for Automobile Companies not trying for a sport-specific cars is the LACK of infrastructure in india. When have we ever had good roads? Only in last 5 years, have we started seeing better roads in india. And animals(cattle) on road is still an issue, along with rickshaw, scooty, cycle all coming and hogging. These factors were not present in european, american or japanese countries hence they could develop and pitch it to their customers.

[@VarunTomee-kr6nf]

We have expressway 15 years ago change your mentality maybe you should go to the yamuna expressway which is built in the mayawati govt

[@SupermanEarth]

​@@VarunTomee-kr6nf Lol, just one. compare it with today. It's not about which government build (like you specifically mentioned) it's about the overall condition of roads india

[@VarunTomee-kr6nf]

@@SupermanEarth lol I just gave example of one for your kind information plenty of roads are still bad today 😡😡😡

[@VarunTomee-kr6nf]

@@SupermanEarth today expressway buiti one day second day destroyed by rain ☔☔

[@VarunTomee-kr6nf]

@SupermanEarth plenty of roads and expressway are built before 2014 maybe 🤔 you are andhbhakt

[@sujaylkarinja2558]

Okay, I stopped listening at 10:51. I'm so done with the host interrupting the guest. At this point, this is barely a podcast. Good luck to the rest of the listeners. I'm gonna go try to make up for the 11 minutes I just lost 🙂.

[@joyjitbhaumik225]

The main differences between TATA & MAHINDRA are - 1. Tata discontinued all of their old products, as well as u dont get good service support for those vehicles. At the same time Mahindra is still continuing their 30+ yrs old models, along with good service support, if not everywhere, but still around most of the states. 2. Tata discontinues their failed products, but Mahindra keeps their failed products & backs them up with their strong products (eg - TUV 300 changed to Bolero Neo). 3. Still in remote areas u get better service support of Mahindra than Tata. 4. Mahindra has all kinds of SUV chassis in the market, targeting different customer, which Tata doesn't. 5. Mahindra has their own in house M-Stallion & M-Hawk engines, these 2 engines r gem, Tata had it's own Dicor engine, but now it has none.

[@aslangrey5931]

The thing i like about mahindra is engine

[@tusharyadav1391]

Jhonny and Dieselhead together in podcast 😊

[@Mohitreactsyt]

Meanwhile Gagan bhai : mujhko kyun bulaya hai 😅 ?

[@vanshdabhade01]

A podcast with all top indian automobile content creators will be a treat to watch. Like wht the trackin tech did with all the tech youtubers, they call it IBTR i.e India's biggest tech roundtable. So like that India's biggest automobile roundtable would be fun 💯

[@Saahilll]

20:12 Finally Honda Civic Type R🦁 Review from Fasbeam🔥Eagerly waiting for this Review..When will you upload it?

[@simanta.baruah]

A Diesel is A Diesel is A Diesel is A Diesel🗿🔥🚀⛽

[@fuel3870]

Diesel 🩶

[@TravelWithDhami]

is A DIEsel.

[@TravelWithDhami]

@@simanta.baruah is a Diesel

[@Rushiikeshkshirsagar]

@@TravelWithDhamiBecomes EV 😅

[@TravelWithDhami]

@@Rushiikeshkshirsagar never an EV

[@vlogtech661]

this type of conversation happens between me and my friend in every class at the back seat 🤣🤣

[@EmblematicChalk100]

@52:28 same thing with Ambassador. Horrible car but people a lot of people ( most of whom have actually never driven) think that it was good. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's a classic. Malaria is also old but we call it a disease not classic.

[@TheFiretiger20]

Just because you think it is horrifc it doesnt mean it is horrific, it was a good car for its time.

[@EmblematicChalk100]

@@TheFiretiger20 Just because you think it was 'good car for its time' doesn't mean it was good car.

[@st-yn9vh]

Biggest problem in indian automobile market is government don't want people to purchase cars, because making and maintaing the infra is more expensive, government is not able to provide nessesary space on the roads and the pace at which construction is being done except some regions is horrible, and the pick pocket behaviour of government is another pain for people. After sometime Indian market will be more of used car market dominating and only wealthy people will only be able to buy new cars.

[@Saahilll]

True Car Enthusiasts discuss all these car topics daily but forget to record it 😂😂

[@samonkar5693]

Yeah after 3 pegs

[@manojgowda6011]

In this show some how I think Gagan is more like value for money fellow and faisal is exactly opposite like a hard core enthusiast😂

[@rebelliousdevil10]

Faisal speaking at his usual speed is equivalent to 1.5x KZbin speed😅

[@shubhamZjain]

maine toh bas ese hi podcast open kia tha , ab dekhe hi jara hu 😂😂

[@saarangkaushik6542]

Only genuine car enthusiasts know Mahindra is far ahead of Tata motors in every aspect. Tata motors is just selling cars in the name of desh ka loha.

[@shantanuranjan4443]

It felt like arnab has invited a guest 😂 I barely heard the guest speak

[@shreyance1418]

Mr. Ardishir Godrej once said that the encouragement to accept substandard goods was simultaneously the reinforcement of the idea that products made in India were automatically of lower quality than those manufactured abroad. Though he was a true nationalist but against patriotism in manufacturing, eventually this philosophy led to Godrej in manufacturing indigenous rocket engines for ISRO.

[@sammie.r5347]

1:18:48 The Invicto is sold so little that BOTH of them forgot

[@Sumer0069]

The irony of Tata motors electric division starts with putting a vocal for local sticker on their ev's which carry majority of parts from China, I.e. motors, batteries etc.

[@-Blue-_]

Motor aur battery ko majority kahega tu ??

[@jackmadaima4681]

​@@-Blue-_ motor, battery nhi hone se gaadi chalega

[@Sumer0069]

@@jackmadaima4681 sahi pakde hai 💀

[@sthegreat1890]

How many people did buy old Grand Vitara, Baleno RS, S-Cross 1.6 Diesel & Kizashi ? How many people are buying Fronx Turbo ? Their present K-Series NA engines are more than good for >95% of Indian customers & as per rumors, they are developing a new 1.2 litre Turbo engine to replace 1.5 NA. Jimny, Swift, Swift Sports,etc. are popular in International Markets & they are one of the top selling manufacturers in Japan. But yes, I agree, they didn't live up to their potential. They could do much better than this. I don't judge quality of car by touching interiors, dashboard. I see overall experience in long term & how reliable the car is overall & MS is excellent in this. They know Indian market more than any other car manufacturer in India. 👍🏻

[@akhiljindal2948]

In our country people have no experience of driving dynamics and the feel of driving quality of cars selling outside india for eg. even people have started demanding safety features recently from last 4-5 years after Tata advertise it i.e they don't know what they can get if they start criticizing brands and demand quality cars.

[@VikasRathod0001]

Indian car companies not going growing because lack of competition in India there is no competition there are only two competitors Mahindra and tata but they have their different standards and they are surviving and what are doing best in their sectors I think India wants new competition in automobiles especially in cars companies

[@MarcusAurelius-o4e]

You talk about global brands such as Toyota and Honda not selling many models in India. The reason is the high taxation in India. Entry level cars such as an Accord or Camry sell in the West for 25 lakhs but are luxury cars in India that cost 50 lakhs plus. At this price no one would buy them in the West where the per capita income is much higher. The Mahindra SUVs will not sell in Europe or America. They are underpowered and very sluggish. Probably hard to merge onto highways with these cars. Most modern cars reach 100 Kmph in about 6 to 8 seconds.

[@Ramanbhukania]

Here and there some good points Gagan mentioned about the core topic. I really hope he actually creates another video, just to summarise these key points. I personally feel, Indian Government and Auto Manufacturers should first target how to make India as hub of Global Manufacturing (Regardless if its done by a proper Desi Brand or any international brands). Today most of the highest selling cars are made for India models. So unless we start building made for global markets in India, we cannot reach our ultimate aim for making Indian brands as global brands. Also in this podcast, some of the key developments have totally ignored. Tata building new plant Chennai to manufacture JLR and Tata EVs on common platform for global market. Toyota building a totally new plant in Aurangabad, which will produce like half a million cars. Maruti Suzuki building worldclass EVs for itself and Toyota for Global market. Force motors build engines for BMW and Mercedes. The list is long which can easily confirm, India will become a global manufacturing hub for Automobile. Probably by 2030. And I fully agree with Gagan on one point, a strong consumer market (which was not there say 10 years back) will surely help to achieve this dream even more quickly.

[@ranjeetd90]

Problem with EVs in India is that total lack of accountability on manufacturer part. Recently thousands of OLA scooters were found at service centers for months. What happened at the end?? Who suffeerred?? It becomes very difficult to put hard earned money into these not even half baked EVs.

[@harshitgarg3436]

in a country where people were struggling for 3 times a day meal, how can we expect a company to make an enthusiastic car? and even if they do make one, where will these enthusiasts live their enthusiasm? on the race track which are too expensive? or on public roads which are riddled with potholes and heavy traffic? We need to improve our infrastructure first before thinking of such cars. and the sub 4 meter rule, while i can understand the intention behind it but please get rid of it

[@siddheshdeshpande7183]

I think it's quite simple, Maruti Suzuki's conservative policy + government poeple stakes in MS + Bad taxation rules like sub 4 m & 1.2 cc + no risks taken to make iconic memorable cars = India's sorry state of passenger car market everybody is responsible and I feel now it's only upto the current government to rectify this by implementing policies condusive for in this case the global OEMs and car companies to manufacture not for the world but also for India

[@kovelamanas9905]

Faisal khan will definitely clear UPSC for CARS examination with ease. The Knowledge and the awareness you exhibit is what other reviewers should be jealous of.

[@abhijeet5771]

The govt plan of maruti is a success story . These cheap cars have led many two wheelers to a relatively safer 4 wheelers

[@anudeepsahoo2748]

Highly appreciate the new genre faisal sir,but seems like a debate between faisal and gagan sir,to be precise faisal should give a chance to justify the questions to gagan sir and should wait for him to complete rather answering himself, Anyways great content

[@shivamsrivastava6446]

I remember Mitshibushi from Pajero's newspaper AD which said it has won Dakar or some other rally. It was way back in 2003-04. Also there were Pajeros on Indian roads as well.

[@atulya_sharma]

Maruti is no longer an Indian brand. The govt sold all of its stakes to Suzuki way back. Maruti Suzuki is just for name sake, it is Suzuki india now in reality

[@drrbbbbb]

@@atulya_sharma 51 49

[@atulya_sharma]

@drrbbbbb you have very old data. Govt of india let go of all its stakes in MSIL back in 2007 itself. Suzuki motor corp currently owns more than 55% and rest is basically owned several mutual funds

[@shekucool1]

58:31 Honda's Civic should be brought to India as a Halo model to keep Aspirational value in public. Like when they are selling their City and civic to most of the people from a aspirational value of accord CRV. Skoda also have a aspirational value od superb and kodiaq

[@scentholic959]

Jeep despite its very low numbers are not a loss making company. 1. They sell Fiat 2Ltr engine to Tata MG etc 2. They rented their assembly line at Ranjangaon plant to Tata, both TATA and Jeep car come out from that assembly line.

[@draco0001]

Gagan as an indian brand mahindra bhakt is clearly seen not accepting the facts that these brands are still not considered global 😂 07:46

[@im_literally_osaka]

mahindra cars have global quality tho

[@draco0001]

@@im_literally_osakawake up dude!😂

[@AbhilashKariyanna]

​@@draco0001Mahindra is far better than Tata for sure Tata motors just sell cars in the name of vocal for local, patriotism and Ratan Tata ji sentiments .

[@train_xc]

Of course, why would I buy a Tata Harrier when I could buy a Toyota Harrier

[@Ramanbhukania]

HM had a joint venture with GM. We cannot simply say, they didn't do anything. Success or failure is always retrospective.

[@LaughingTeddy]

I think this should be posted on Gagan's channel because Gagan is podcasting with Faisal😅😂😂

[@varunkhanor]

Such an amazing discussion 👏

[@manishpandey4618]

Indian car companies are group of companies..its one of their business just for diversity…unlike other international brands they are only making vehicles or machines its their core business.

[@aryannaik6522]

23:01 Ye fass gaya faisal 😂😂

[@RT-mi8dd]

Great episode, please keep them coming!! And more and more with you and gagan. Love you both!!

[@sauravpatel8732]

On this channel : faisal hi faisal On vlog channel: gagan hi gagan 😂

[@prathmesh_jadhav8930]

I feel Faisal can do any podcast all alone… 😂❤

[@aamirkalawant]

That was the Podcast, I was waiting for 🎉🎉

[@abhishekdas5180]

Both of those guys can speak Hindi very well. I don't know why this podcast is the entire English. That's why India can't go global because they don't follow their roots.

[@Ka84run]

1:01:20 Nissan is also a fool🤣that smile and that laugh😂😂😂

[@Moonlight-zp5rj]

After watching this podcast I realised the differences in the content of both of Faisal and Gagan. Gagan viewpoint is practical and offers better perspective to potential Buyers. Even in other people’s podcast like red Mike and with Sunil Munj he gave insights of automotive industry not just in India but around the world. Also his content on buying an EV and showcasing the problems of the buyers is more relatable and unique. Faisal’s reviews are more of enthusiasts POV and fast. I guess maybe he’s also shooting blogs and reviews back to back that’s why. Frankly I only watch his videos to check rear seat legroom and him giving the beans, that’s it. I like his vlogs more than his reviews. Both Gagan and Faisal are one of my favourites, my best wishes to both of them.

[@ajit2675]

1:22:45 podcast while driving is a good idea btw. Do it for every car you both review. Would love if you discuss the nissan-honda merger, future of JSW and other potential indian JV of chinese EV (and Skoda/VW) and what benefit it might give to the indian partner and do you think it might lead them to become a independent global automaker in future

[@akshajcontractor184]

This is the best podcast in terms of the knowledge about the automobile industry

[@nilendudas8160]

“We did in a hotel room twice”

[@saurabh2587]

@faisal I love the conversation! Please make more of these discussions!!! I am a motor head, i have been following you since some years and Gagan too. Please just don’t stop! Go ahead make more noise about going global!

[@FasBeam]

Thanks! We are working on it!

[@travelraw5788]

Thats why in Australian market XUV 700 is really selling great and their reviewers are also enjoyed them riding. Even a few cricketers own Mahindra in australia. Also, similar to South africa where they loved the 3X0 as well.

[@-Blue-_]

Because mahindra actually did r&d but not tata, even though I have tata punc, punch is a good value of money car but fit and finish is not up to the mark, engine is under power and gearbox is average

[@-Blue-_]

Because mahindra actually did r&d but not tata, even though I have tata punch, punch is a good value for money car but fit and finish is not up to the mark, engine is under power and gearbox is average

[@devashisgogoi972]

It was an amazing podcast, got to know many new things, Faisal bhai do a podcast on how you guys came into this profession and met and the journey after that, it will be amazing ❤

[@prajwalsajjan9901]

We bought tata Tiago ev and got broke down within first 400km and remained in service centre for 2 days . All the issue came because of accessories fitted by Tata motors itself .

[@kshayarsha5450]

Next podcast topic - "Car Enthusiasts Segment ? - Is it the next big thing?" Coz so many people want likes of polo, ecosport, freestyle, punto back.

[@DivyanshuChouhann]

0:47 yes ofcourse Jonny bhaiya is multi-talented 😂

[@iarchitmishra]

I really wanted you two guys to get on a podcast!

[@_beast_siddhu_]

As we All Know That Faisal Loves Talking That's Why Jonny Bhai Is Talking Less😅

[@hakshayak2044]

Reliance and jsw gonna enter in the car industry. So hope they also make good quality cars

[@vishakr7194]

Wow wat a Collab 😮

[@pranavkadam199]

45:07 This man is spitting facts

[@sayandas5587]

Better than spitting peek

[@viewer4423]

Best collab❤

[@vaibhav_2000]

We got Faisal and Gagan's Collab before Gta 6 😘😘

[@laviishpareek]

Really good podcast covered all relevant topics 👍

[@adityakagwar157]

26:00 I think if mahindra bring a performance sedan with some tweaks to xuv 700’s engine it’s gonna do what vrs was supposed to do. Because 700’s engine is soo good despite being a suv imagine it in a sedan’s body

[@rahul4288]

Kya baat he Faisal bhai, great to see you both in podcast format.

[@Sheela9999]

Same thing happened in real estate -- ec is defyning flat changes ,layout design ,open space which is governed by dc rules -- killing the project look and amenities

[@vspatmx7458]

I like this format idea Call other youtubers Whose energy can keep up with Fa Kh I wanna hear these 1) Hormaz sorabjee 2) shubhabrat shumi marmar

[@ChapterOneSharedStudy]

The amount of interruptions is exceptional oh my goodness.

[@RockyT07-i]

7:54 Honda be like: Accha Sila diya tune mere pyaar ka💔💔 Don't forget that you are a fan of Honda too

[@biswajit07]

please let Gagan speak he has things to say bruh!!😭

[@mmo-tech]

When you ask a question, have patience to listen. It feels like chaos. Got fed up within first 8 mins

[@motorcar007]

On lighter note , good to see FAISAL speak at x 1.0 speed. Great podcast ...

[@leowayne2533]

If liberalisation happens in 1980 and government only allows 50-50 partnerships with local brand.Then we get world class cars

[@AnjaliApta-qt1iw]

Hopefully tata can improve fit finish and electronics to compete globally with their avinya brand

[@shreypatil3876]

This Tata won't ever improve in next 70 years or even lifetime. They have been making cars from past 26 yrs and till today they couldn't fix these issues, then what they will do now. And I am sure they will never ever improve the issues of their cars.

[@khitesh04]

Faisal man when u invite someone for a podcast let them speak, it sounds like a debate sometime rather than a conversation.

[@doctor.arjun.drives]

Patriotism does play a major role. It’s called inflection point in terms of product strategy. They capitalised on make in India movement during covid era and now they’ll milk the benefits.

[@alokjangid2399]

My 2 fav auto enthusiasts in one frame 🥹🥹

[@sonudhami8217]

They both forgot that avg indian earns 2000$ per year

[@amitchavan123]

Long term problem with indian manufacturers is they didn't go inhouse for EV components design earlier, EV components are mainly Power Electronics Design in terms of most of the cost, but indian companies didn't hire Engineers working on these technologies, they should have done that at least 7 to 10 years ago. Now hiring may not help it's already too late.

[@MasterGamingByAk]

Gagan Be like : Shant Hoja BKL Guest mein hu 😂

[@sidz0001]

best duo! one more podcast of how santro developed Hyundai in our market

[@ayanmahmood766]

2 car legends in one frame

[@dem0194]

Bro do this more more we need more

[@harshalsy]

My two favorite Auto KZbinrs together!!

[@ranaonwheels9464]

Actually cars manufacturers never marketed high power cars for enthusiasts because of the high fuel price. This is actually ground reality and goes both for manufacturers as well and end consumers Now SUV 's are sold because of good National Highways and Express ways. Similarly if Fuel prices and taxes go down then manufacturers will also get a boost to market performance oriented vehicles.

[@parvez7077]

Two of my favorite KZbinr.