Why Is Cardiff's Road Building Project Still Not Finished After 70 Years?

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In this video we visit Cardiff.. the capital of Wales, despite it's status, the roads are terrible and it appears that they never finished building them. Which might explain things. But why is this the situation, surely a large capital city would have its infrastructure in good order....

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@oliver206
@oliver206 Жыл бұрын
It’s not unusual…for a road project to be cancelled.
@MrBLUEDEVILUK
@MrBLUEDEVILUK Жыл бұрын
But why why why?
@Eledore
@Eledore Жыл бұрын
If i had a Shilling for every time it happend and i'd live in the UK, i'd have 20 quid!
@debbiecarter6430
@debbiecarter6430 Жыл бұрын
See what you did there 😊
@jazzhands7771
@jazzhands7771 Жыл бұрын
Bloody Labour always cancel roads. They seem to think we all have magic carpets...
@David_D.
@David_D. Жыл бұрын
*Applauds* 😆😆
@TheRetroLab
@TheRetroLab Жыл бұрын
So they stopped building roads to help the environment by causing massive traffic jams.... great logic right there!
@markjlewis
@markjlewis Жыл бұрын
One of the area with the worst air pollution in Wales is around the M4 in Newport. The reason is that the road is no longer fit for purpose but you guessed it Bell**d Drakeford said no to the M4 relief road which would have allowed vehicles to run more efficiently as they wouldn't have had to negotiate the ups and downs around St.Juliens and Beechwood plus not having to go through the pinch point at the Brynglas Tunnels. All because some squirrel in a tree on the Gwent levels would have been mildly disturbed.
@kgbgb3663
@kgbgb3663 Жыл бұрын
@@markjlewis I used to like the naturalist Iolo Williams, but I've boycotted anything he has been associated with since he led the campaign to cancel the proper M4 and condemn the people in the area where I grew up to permanent air pollution.
@carldiff
@carldiff Жыл бұрын
The M4 around Newport is at capacity. It can't get any worse and it means anyone using it has chosen to do so instead of taking any of the alternatives ie the car is still the best option. What then would opening a second motorway around Newport achieve? All it would do is induce demand up to the point where that was full again too. The WG strategy of investing in public transport like the South Wales Metro and better bus services between Cardiff and Newport is the way forward to better manage capacity across all modes instead of catering relentlessly to drivers. I say this as somebody who endures a daily commute from Cardiff to Bristol by car. I'd love to do it by train but it takes too long, the trains are infrequent and expensive. If people like me could move off the road it would of course create capacity for others who do need to use the road. If we're going to build a road anywhere, let's compete Rover Way in Cardiff! It's only a stones throw from the Senedd I bet you cynics will love that. Sorry for the long post and love the videos Jon if not your attitude towards cyclists 🚲🚲
@BellowFind
@BellowFind Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI, more roads only increases traffic in the long term, therefore having more environmental impact. It is a well documented fact. If your argument is regarding climate, the best thing to do is not use your car. If you can not give up your car, you should be supporting construction and policies to improve other transporting methods to encourage more people out of cars. Building more roads has never been the answer, and every town/city developer around the world knows this.
@markhirst2952
@markhirst2952 Жыл бұрын
​@@carldiffseason ticket to Bristol works out at £14.09 a day. With the Clean air charge of £9, plus parking, plus petrol, is it really cheaper to drive?
@neilsheppard6673
@neilsheppard6673 Жыл бұрын
It only takes one broken down vehicle or (yet another) accident on the Link Road (A4232) or Rover Way and the whole of Cardiff and the rest of South Wales grinds to a standstill. Thanks for the video Jon, enjoyed it muchly. 👍👍
@wispa1a
@wispa1a Жыл бұрын
They are on about putting pay roads that end now.
@tobyjackman3212
@tobyjackman3212 Жыл бұрын
​@@wispa1a Tell me you are joking
@mrtickleuk
@mrtickleuk Жыл бұрын
Yep it's great to see our "ski-ramp" being featured. Rover Way is insane, not to mention always thoroughly filthy, the signs are always covered with muck. The speed limit is supposed to be 40mph but I'm always stuck in a train with everyone going 30mph because one idiot at the front of the queue can't read signs. I've never, ever managed to go 40mph down that road, so frustrating.
@SportFury1966
@SportFury1966 Жыл бұрын
Well, what are the odds of a vehicle breaking down on a road called ROVER WAY?
@mrtickleuk
@mrtickleuk Жыл бұрын
@@SportFury1966"Above all, it's a Rover"
@TheThejpmshow
@TheThejpmshow Жыл бұрын
They’re asking cyclists in Wales to keep a 1.5 metre gap from cars when they overtake them now in the new speed limit zones
@passiton3801
@passiton3801 Жыл бұрын
Well, yeh as they are now the fastest things on the rd, closely followed by the illegal scooters (which riders insist on buying) scooting along the rds, pavements, strait thro traffic lights an on the wrong side of the rd... Theres no welcome to Wales anymore...
@JK-wn3cc
@JK-wn3cc Жыл бұрын
Love it!
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 Жыл бұрын
The cyclist is saving the planet from climate change are you driving an ICE vehicle?! 😠
@KrisRogos
@KrisRogos Жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting another Cardiff video so soon! It is absolutely crazy we have 90% of the circle complete, and even crazier, the bit that is missing is going through an industrial area.
@Caerdan
@Caerdan 29 күн бұрын
Exactly! Whenever I drive this way I always think how easy it would be to upgrade as there isn't really anything blocking it
@amojak
@amojak Жыл бұрын
lol spat my tea out at "council urgency - 10 years later" :)
@PineappleSkip
@PineappleSkip Жыл бұрын
A video on payday, well done there! Just watched the B1M on the Messina Strait bridge. Clearly the Italian politicians look to Cardiff Council for strategic inactivity inspiration.
@robertjones8856
@robertjones8856 Жыл бұрын
The older I get the more I realise people in positions of responsibility (like building roads), are just winging it 🤭 as to how it'll turn out. Great channel 👍
@rileyuktv6426
@rileyuktv6426 Жыл бұрын
They drive at 20mph everywhere in Wales now - no need for speedier road upgrades ❤
@BenosTDG
@BenosTDG Жыл бұрын
​@@MeibeonI think some do actually believe it's 20mph everywhere though. I had to overtake someone doing 20mph on a 30 then 40mph road that was clearly signed, multiple times.
@johnd6487
@johnd6487 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, we drive at 20mph on most roads in England.. I mean, that's not the speed limit, it's just as fast as anything ever seems to get.
@Skorpychan
@Skorpychan Жыл бұрын
It's a blanket for 'built-up areas', so basically just all the southern cities, and probably put speed cameras all the way through Rhyader to catch bikers slipping 0.05MPH over 20.
@Марк.Фетнов
@Марк.Фетнов Жыл бұрын
Come to Liverpool where even the cops ignore the speed limit 😂👍
@stephenhookings1985
@stephenhookings1985 Жыл бұрын
Soz. I should have seem your post before posting.
@tobyjackman3212
@tobyjackman3212 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to my home town! Been wondering on a weekly basis when you would cover this. This is the best video I've ever seen about anything
@Theoriginalramjammer
@Theoriginalramjammer Жыл бұрын
I still rate the Glasgow M8 ski ramps as the best abandoned slips roads in the UK. And yes I actually wrote this. I need to go out..
@wolf190891
@wolf190891 Жыл бұрын
As someone who commutes to Cardiff, having to deal with Rover Way is god damn awful at the best of times and an absolute nightmare that I will do anything to get around
@OkenWS
@OkenWS Жыл бұрын
Wahey, you finally reached my home town. I could type a lot. In fairness, the connection to Ocean Way has done some good for traffic, although as a dual carriageway it is rather overbuilt. All the traffic that was smushed into Rover Way eastbound also used to be smushed onto the A4234 Central Link along with said link being the main route for shoppers, punters at the Cardiff Arena and some traffic for the Stadium. They then had to proceed along Fithamon Avenue and Newport Road or back down Ocean Way to the docks. Back in those days the traffic on that east side of the city centre was horrendous. Still, not building the flyover or even leaving room for one was a great shame and seems a little too much like vandalism.
@Corvus.2606
@Corvus.2606 Жыл бұрын
then they undid all of the good they did, by closing half the roads north of the city and forcing all traffic around the prison in order to access the main parking, Cardiff stands as a fantastic example of why city planning is very important, but only because it's a great example of what not to do.
@carldiff
@carldiff Жыл бұрын
​@@Corvus.2606I think if Rover Way were ever completed it and Central Link would become the signed way to the city centre from the East rather than Newport Road. I generally don't favour more road building but it's clear the demand is already there and improvements in the rail and light rail infrastructure in the area are happening too with the bay to Splott line and Cardiff Parkway station.
@danielparrott8339
@danielparrott8339 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff- this is a fascinating "not quite" road. The Rover Way section is literally bonkers. It's like a main road in Mexico or something. It is so obvious that it is a temporary fudge that has been in place for 50 years.
@tobyjackman3212
@tobyjackman3212 Жыл бұрын
It's a bit of fun at night though
@mrtickleuk
@mrtickleuk Жыл бұрын
@@tobyjackman3212You're lucky. Even very late at night, I'm always stuck behind a blind idiot dribbling along at 30mph, too scared to drive at 40mph.
@All_Good_Things
@All_Good_Things Жыл бұрын
Dont you mean 20mph 🤣
@mrtickleuk
@mrtickleuk Жыл бұрын
@@All_Good_Things Haven't been along it since that came in, but yes, I'm dreading it. Utter, utter, insanity.
@dolphinpix
@dolphinpix Жыл бұрын
C83 near Solas in the Western Isles anyone? Keep up the good work, plenty more roads to go!
@user-tn1vc1xz5d
@user-tn1vc1xz5d Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you covering roads down our neck of the woods 😊😊 I remember the cutting of the A4232 north of Leckwith. A video series on the length of the A48 would be cool. A series called "Great Welsh Roads" did this years back. Theres a few old A48 cafes from th(e days where cars were slower and M4 didnt go past Port Talbot) here n there, not cafes any more.
@imaner76
@imaner76 Жыл бұрын
The A48 has a lot of history behind it, that would make a good series!
@All_Good_Things
@All_Good_Things Жыл бұрын
Me to i was only about 6 or 7 then
@thepainter3575
@thepainter3575 Жыл бұрын
that outro gave me strong top gear vibes when james played the keyboard
@MrMatStace
@MrMatStace Жыл бұрын
That new stretch of link road to a big roundabout, onto tiny roads blocked up with industrial traffic was 100% stolen by Cardiff from my Cities: Skylines map.
@marsgal42
@marsgal42 Жыл бұрын
According to wikipedia Cardiff pulled the plug on their trolley buses 0:45 in 1970.
@VequeGhost
@VequeGhost Жыл бұрын
i love it when videos are about Wales shame nothing up north is interesting as this
@carldiff
@carldiff Жыл бұрын
Maybe when he runs out of motorways he'll cover North Wales` secret motorway, the A55 near Colwyn Bay.
@BenosTDG
@BenosTDG Жыл бұрын
Rover Way is such a miserable road. It's literally grey. But I do find it quite free flowing in a normal weekend though.
@adrianrutterford762
@adrianrutterford762 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, as ever. So the plan changed. “It’s not unusual”.
@jamestanton7424
@jamestanton7424 Жыл бұрын
I spent many holidays with my grandparents, who lived in Penarth since the mid 1980's. Through all those years until 2019, we saw the building of the A4232 through its stages and the grangetown bridge hanging incomplete over the road Cardiff centre to Penarth, then the road just end for years until the next link (bridge over the bay and tunnel) was built. Plus the new Severn Bridge and the link roads to Penarth and the bay / barrage. As a child it was exciting to see how much was being built and all the new changes.
@geoffreylane8224
@geoffreylane8224 Жыл бұрын
Living in Cardiff, its frustrating to not see this road finished.. Rover Way at certain times of the day is jammed solid due to vehicle numbers and especially when certain locals are walking down it to feed their ponies.. but I can't see it ever being finished. Its not true however that the building of the newest bit hasn't helped with the traffic.. especially in Splott, which is where you used to have to go through to get onto Rover Way, although it has probably put a dent in the trade of the local ladies of the night with the reduction in vehicles passing by.
@PenryMMJ
@PenryMMJ Жыл бұрын
On the other hand.... if you wanted to build a secret hidden bunker in central Cardiff, and have everyone completely ignore it....something like this would be a good way to do that.
@K-o-R
@K-o-R Жыл бұрын
Except the pizza guys. They know exactly how to get in.
@carldiff
@carldiff Жыл бұрын
​@@K-o-Rwell, Dominos is opposite the service entrance to the tunnel
@simonochana3189
@simonochana3189 Жыл бұрын
Back then there were quite a few road building schemes in Wales that were cancelled owing to lack of funding. The two examples I remember were the “Missing Link” of the M4 at Port Talbot/ Llandarcy and the “Heads of the Valley Road” AKA A465 between Glynneath & Aberdullais, where the under pass disappeared into a field. Luckily both were rectified in the 1990’s.
@JT-nr2ss
@JT-nr2ss Жыл бұрын
The only solution to traffic is viable alternatives to driving. The reason traffic is so bad in wales is because all this road building occured in the first place. The decision to cancel all road building and focus on a South Wales Metro is actually going to reduce traffic, which is the real reason for the scheme, not environemnt. How can you say after the last 60 years of road building that even more roads is the solution. That would only create more car journeys?
@vcokltfre
@vcokltfre Жыл бұрын
As a frequent driver from the Newport direction to Cardiff bay: Fuck rover way. Kill it with fire.
@adamwaller5496
@adamwaller5496 Жыл бұрын
I drove past this shit the other day and thought 'I bet Autoshenanijon knows all about this shit.'
@brantnuttall
@brantnuttall Жыл бұрын
0:46 thank you for letting that bus show it's full advert for Crawford's. I would have died from not knowing otherwise.
@gypsydal
@gypsydal Жыл бұрын
I love living in Cardiff, but the traffic is crap!!! I spend hours sitting at traffic lights! Quicker to walk than drive - achieving 20mph is a pipe dream! 🫣
@kevm8965
@kevm8965 Жыл бұрын
I love your music selection, the "take the high road" orchestral version had me guessing for a while, this one had me for about 10 secs, brilliant, keep it up, thanks.
@All_Good_Things
@All_Good_Things Жыл бұрын
I always wondered what those unfinished ramps were for
@AndrewSmart32
@AndrewSmart32 Жыл бұрын
I've just driven through South Wales today, while it won't have been Cardiff exactly, the amount of major roadway construction happening was massive, with one giant bridge being constructed having all the concrete piece block frames in place, quite an incredible sight
@loisbolton1800
@loisbolton1800 Жыл бұрын
That would be Merthyr Tydfil, the next stage of the Heads of the Valleys dual carriageway.
@serenawatkins6875
@serenawatkins6875 Жыл бұрын
Great video. And it's yet another one which shows how useless most councils and road planners are when it comes to planning new roads and decision making.
@andrewturner12
@andrewturner12 Жыл бұрын
So true. Makes me want to shout at them... But what's the point?
@jimdieseldawg3435
@jimdieseldawg3435 Жыл бұрын
Genius as always; thanks, fella!
@berniesteadman7642
@berniesteadman7642 Жыл бұрын
If it was built, you could speed along that new road at a fantastic 20MPH
@clickrick
@clickrick Жыл бұрын
@@Meibeon Except "environment".
@Corvus.2606
@Corvus.2606 Жыл бұрын
the only thing more annoying then the 20mph limit is havint to hear everyone bitching about it. sign the senedd petition and get on with your day...
@FinnDeacon
@FinnDeacon Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@NorthantsMX5
@NorthantsMX5 Жыл бұрын
Absolute pleasure meeting you in MK with Sam, keep doing what your doing 😎
@andrewthorne6653
@andrewthorne6653 Жыл бұрын
Love the sarcasm it always cracks me up well done thank you
@hudaninja
@hudaninja Жыл бұрын
I love this satirical update. Ahhhhh so refreshing
@ScotlandsGold
@ScotlandsGold Жыл бұрын
Wales is the smallest country with the largest percentage of serial killers,now we know why.
@sixfootbear
@sixfootbear Жыл бұрын
@@garethhenshaw Plaid Cymru..They murder the English language.. Call an ambiwlans...
@TIMMEH19991
@TIMMEH19991 Жыл бұрын
Pity they don't turn their attention to the nut cases who run the place.
@kenzlambz
@kenzlambz Жыл бұрын
Super interesting. Never really known what the big block between the tunnel roads was for! If you ever take suggestions.. the A48 may be an interesting contender.. predecessor to the M4 and goes through many many different guises on its course edit: just seen two other comments in support of the A48 too.... ;)
@himagainstill
@himagainstill 5 ай бұрын
The best part about the new section is how at Queen''s Gate the way it's been built made it impossible to use the ramps to build a flyover and at Ocean Way they just didn't bother making provision whatsoever. In the latter case, I suspect they've just accepted that they're never going to finish the road as planned.
@joshovki
@joshovki Жыл бұрын
I see this regularly, and always wondered why it was like that. Thank you!
@stuartmountjoy5576
@stuartmountjoy5576 Жыл бұрын
I regularly use this road, well sit in traffic here!!! Never was awares of the history behind the incomplete layout, thank you 😊
@neildaniel8232
@neildaniel8232 Жыл бұрын
Spot-on Sir, I had a feeling you wouldn't miss the opportunity to highlight the A4232 issues while down this neck of the woods. Could even see my house on the drone shot, which means I know exactly how unbelievably crap Rover Way is for the volume of traffic 🤣
@sydnorth5868
@sydnorth5868 Жыл бұрын
I did a lot of construction work around Cardiff Bay in the 1990's. As I used to come down from the Midlands, I too remember how crap Rover Way was even back then. It didn't take long to work out that it was better to stay on the M4 to Cardiff Gate, then come down the A4232 from there.
@dj_james170
@dj_james170 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Video once again Jon. Would love you to come to Cardiff more often.
@bobspeller2225
@bobspeller2225 Жыл бұрын
Typical mess up of council and local Government not know what is required to complete projects. good video, Bob
@DigitalDiabloUK
@DigitalDiabloUK Жыл бұрын
We stayed in the Premier Inn shown in some shots last year and saw Tom Jones. We even used that local link road. How meaningful
@patlussenden4536
@patlussenden4536 Жыл бұрын
I am finally getting the hang of your road system naming scheme…mostly. LOL!! You are a master at saying all those different road names and not getting tongue tied.
@NLGREGG
@NLGREGG Жыл бұрын
Sat in work yesterday i was watching your videos and searched to see if you had covered this road, hours later you post this, what sort of coincidence is that😂 welldone with the video, great as always👍
@RhysEdwards14
@RhysEdwards14 Жыл бұрын
Another very interesting video Jon as this is a route I use very frequently 😊
@carldiff
@carldiff Жыл бұрын
And me! I live in the bay and work in Bristol and Rover Way is the bane of my existence some days (and a joy to cruise home down in the dead of night, don't tell SWP lol)
@carlrushtonwillie
@carlrushtonwillie Жыл бұрын
I liked this vlog as ive been a delivery driver for many years (30+) and always wondered why that ramp is there. Keep up the great vlogs mate 👍👍👍👍
@jonnoMoto
@jonnoMoto Жыл бұрын
I know you mostly do motorways but any thoughts about making a video about the a350? The land for a dual carriageway is there along it from the m4 to melksham but they made half of it and callled it a day. It was the bane of my existence for about 8yrs when working in chippenham. They did some work north of chippenham expanding ~1km to a dual carriageway (absolute nightmare commuting through roadworks for years) but stopped, again. Went along it on the weekend (salisbury to the m4) for the first time in 5yrs and the traffic was still awful and no further widening had been made.
@GS-lu2zu
@GS-lu2zu Жыл бұрын
Making the A350 a dual carriageway would be ideal situation for us all and ease traffic immediately. Unfortunately however, not all of the A350 would be able to have an additional two lanes added to make it dual. Plus, given the costs of planning and actually building etc, the government and councils will more than likely only do the most needed parts and the least possible in road building, to make it look like they are doing something although without spending too much. Therefore, we are always going to have to put up with bits as single lane A road and others as dual.
@GS-lu2zu
@GS-lu2zu Жыл бұрын
You mention Chippenham, well they are looking at making it mostly dual, although that could end up not happening "Following a public inquiry in the 1990s, the A350 dual carriageway Chippenham bypass scheme was granted planning consent. Although initially built as a single carriageway, the highways boundary was secured and bridges were constructed to future-proof the bypass corridor for the full dualling." "Between November 2022 and February 2023, we asked residents and businesses in the Chippenham area, and wider A350 users, to share their views on phases 4 and 5 of plans to turn the remaining single carriageway sections of the A350 at Chippenham into dual carriageways." As we know, this will not be possible with the whole A350 as some parts are too enclosed to be widened etc, so only certain parts will ever be dual or talked about being dual, unless they look at future bypasses etc.
@GS-lu2zu
@GS-lu2zu Жыл бұрын
Salisbury, now there's one that always most definitely needs making full dual carriageway along the A303 from Winterbourne, along Stonehenge to Amesbury. Tunnel or dual whatever, or at least put a fence to stop so many tourists or holiday makers rubber necking Stonehenge as they go past lol
@tomanderson6335
@tomanderson6335 Жыл бұрын
The A4232 Adding vowels to their language 🤝 Things the Welsh never quite finished
@yeomancam8746
@yeomancam8746 Жыл бұрын
We were in Cardiff a short while ago, they'd closed the M4 so we joined the Newport to Cardiff Snailspace Car Park system. It wasn't fricking sweet awesome.... except we decided to takea break, headed down a country lane and found a decent pub with some nice food before rejoining the snailspace. That was FSA! 😊
@Twmpa
@Twmpa Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video. I'm sure the new 20 limits are really helping.
@clickrick
@clickrick Жыл бұрын
I like the nod to Sir Tom in the outro music!
@dragonie
@dragonie Жыл бұрын
Ive been wondering about that for years every time ive seen it - thanks so much lol
@sassythesasquatch4425
@sassythesasquatch4425 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k
@dongorgon4168
@dongorgon4168 Жыл бұрын
You make me laugh! A lot. Interesting fun facts too. Please keep them coming. Thanks
@AutoShenanigans
@AutoShenanigans Жыл бұрын
Nice one, thanks for watching mate!
@dilbertfish
@dilbertfish Жыл бұрын
The amount of cars in Cardiff is excessive for such a small city.
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 Жыл бұрын
Great Video love the cynicism & sarcasm in the script. 😎
@Mikes666
@Mikes666 Жыл бұрын
Glad you done this one
@bertfairbrother7745
@bertfairbrother7745 Жыл бұрын
Just love the outro ditty mate😉
@grapes008
@grapes008 Жыл бұрын
You could just dukes of hazard over the roundabout
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain Жыл бұрын
Another excellent and informative video as always Jon.
@debbiecarter6430
@debbiecarter6430 Жыл бұрын
Looking good Jon
@minibus9
@minibus9 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, love learning about roads and transport. As a Doctor Who fan and transport and road enthusiast i have to say i would love there to be an epsiode of Doctor Who that explained the reasons for this failed road building project as being to do with ailens.
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 Жыл бұрын
Are you saying Mark Drakeford is an alien supervillain?
@yusufkhan-ig7dv
@yusufkhan-ig7dv Жыл бұрын
Coincidentally just before the unfinished flyover, the road goes through a tunnel, which was actually used in Dr Who. The one with the bus that ends up on a desert planet
@minibus9
@minibus9 Жыл бұрын
@@paulsengupta971 no i was thinking that there could be time travel involved to be honest
@minibus9
@minibus9 Жыл бұрын
cool.@@yusufkhan-ig7dv
@driving_all_over
@driving_all_over Жыл бұрын
@@yusufkhan-ig7dv The bridge on the Bay side of the tunnel was also used for another Dr Who episode too, it’s the one where Donna is in the taxi with the robot Santa
@anperson8329
@anperson8329 Жыл бұрын
that new bit of A4232 reminds me of the old A555 south of manchester. A primary route taking people from two roundabouts at one relatively quiet road to...a roundabout at a junction with another minor A road
@leopold7562
@leopold7562 Жыл бұрын
Luckily, they almost sort of finished the A555, so now it links the airport to Hazel Grove in a nice, quick route, roughly following where the A6(M) was going to go. Except for the bit at Hazel Grove, which is a bloody nightmare…
@ChrisHopkinsBass
@ChrisHopkinsBass Жыл бұрын
2:14 I can just about make out where I work from that aerial shot! ☺️
@jonscoupe
@jonscoupe Жыл бұрын
Great work Jon. 👍
@koolstup
@koolstup Жыл бұрын
I remember coming down the A4232 from the M4 (jnc 33) and thinking it was a stroke of genius, even though the surface was very rough ( hopefully it's been redone). Then you hit the Queen's Gate tunnel, which when built went under nothing! Then there was no money to finish the rest of the road 😵‍💫
@alexboyce1469
@alexboyce1469 Жыл бұрын
'the surface was very rough ( hopefully it's been redone)' You would think so, wouldn't you? It has not.
@Anonymoususer_8823
@Anonymoususer_8823 Жыл бұрын
Maybe that could be part of the unfinished A48(M) to pass underneath Cardiff City Centre. And to reconnect with the M4 motorway to the west of Cardiff heading towards Swansea.
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 Жыл бұрын
Unfinished road? It's not unusual...
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to cover the dualling of the A465?
@andrewpreece6051
@andrewpreece6051 4 ай бұрын
The unfinished A 4232 duel carriageway, ( starts at junction 33 M4 )locally known as concrete Alley, This is because most of the road is made of concrete instead of tarmac.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
Extending the A4232 to the A48 to the East of Cardiff using parts of existing arterial road as well as a new tunnel would complete a Cardiff Bypass and would be a congestion buster. It’s simply the missing link and if built, this would be a game changer. And as it would link to the A48 east of Cardiff, which then flows into the M4, it would improve access to the Cardiff docks, which would get big trucks off local roads. It could also function as a second M4, though it would be a slower and would only really benefit those going in & out of Cardiff. I wonder if this was even the original plan for the M4?
@u1zha
@u1zha Жыл бұрын
3:00 and why exactly did it have to be elevated? Looks like there's just one almost redundant rail siding underneath?
@djsmithe
@djsmithe Жыл бұрын
Two videos in one week. What a lucky guy I am. "Acting with some urgency, 10 years later" I think that was sarcasm. Was it?
@driving_all_over
@driving_all_over Жыл бұрын
For all the talk of the 20 limits in wales at the min I find it odd that the bit of road that was built is 40 one way and 50 the other Also can they sort out the numbering around there. Give Rover Way and that stupid bit of A4161 near Eastern Avenue the A4232 number!
@mrtickleuk
@mrtickleuk Жыл бұрын
Indeed. It's a modern high-spec dual carriageway. Should be 70mph in both directions.
@MervynPartin
@MervynPartin Жыл бұрын
During my teens in Cardiff (last century!) there was a road building scheme called the "Hook Road" which was to run in a North-South direction with the demolition of thousands of homes. I think it was dreamed up by some genius called Buchanan (not 100% certain of the name) but it was luckily cancelled. It is regrettable that incompetence has reared its ugly head again in Cardiff. It used to be a lovely city.
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 Жыл бұрын
It still is a lovely city….compared to Swansea.
@MervynPartin
@MervynPartin Жыл бұрын
@@hedydd2I've only been to Swansea a few times (also in the last century!) but I quite liked it then.
@marc21091
@marc21091 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for recalling the Hook Road. Its name was so simple and memorable - and had such a threatening tone - that it lives on in memory long after public opposition forced Cardiff City Council to scrap it - in 1973 I think. At 0:57 the 1968 urban motorways plan for Cardiff is shown, Can anyone identify which of the proposed roads shown there (they have names not numbers) is what was known in the city as the Hook Road?
@MervynPartin
@MervynPartin Жыл бұрын
@@marc21091 It might be the road marked as Central Primary, but it is so long ago that I am not sure. Perhaps someone else may have a better memory. My Dad worked for a construction firm that built the Heads of the Valleys Road amongst other projects, but even he thought the Hook Road was a stupid scheme.
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 Жыл бұрын
@@MervynPartin It’s changed, and the roads are far more congested and complicated than Cardiff’s. It used to be the go-to shopping town for West Wales but now, most people carry on past it on the M4 to Cardiff and StDavid’s centre and all the exhibition centres with shows, and nice hotels there.
@maxusboostus
@maxusboostus Жыл бұрын
How rude, you didn't wave goodbye at the end! 🙂
@jan-ovepedersen5764
@jan-ovepedersen5764 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, great video as always. Politicians burying their heads in the sand as usual, hoping the problem (traffic) to go away LOL, same here in Norway. Norway built 4 kms or 2.5 miles of new motorway in 2023. At this pace the highly needed motorway construction will take some 250 years. And it can't be because we lack funding, it's crazy politics not building what is macro economically sound. An efficient transport network is good for both economy and environment, but it seems politicians are oblivious to that fact. Greetings from Norway 🙂
@MrFlazz99
@MrFlazz99 Жыл бұрын
I was a student in that neck of the woods at the turn of the '90s and (being obviously poor) didn't do much driving, but it's always struck me that the way into the north of the city (the A48) is great (I lived up in Penylan), but if you want to head towards the docks from the east, everything just snarls up. The last time I went to Cardiff, knowing I was heading to that area I purposely went by train instead and just walked from Cardiff Central. The joy of Cardiff in December.... Seeing this video puts it into perspective - I never imagined (...) that there might have been a knackered road scheme. Nothing surprises me about Wales with Drakeford in charge - props to the commenter who mentioned about cyclists needing to keep a 5ft separation when overtaking cars in the 20mph zones now.
@EngineerLewis
@EngineerLewis Жыл бұрын
Nice outro music for a lovely welsh story time .... Cardiff in short is a mess - well the road system and the Welsh Government seem to miss the point on every issue!!
@Shaman_Ray
@Shaman_Ray Жыл бұрын
The A48, or Fishguard to Russia as someone from my childhood used to say. Can't remember now.
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 Жыл бұрын
I seem to remember the development plan for Cardiff that proposed these roads was called 'Centreplan 70'. I was born in Wales, but lived most of my working life in England. I made the mistake of moving back to Cardiff a few years ago - wish I hadn't now as the Welsh Government and Cardiff Council make Putin look like a benevolent genius 😢
@kgbgb3663
@kgbgb3663 Жыл бұрын
Putin _is_ a benevolent genius -- ask the Russians (and east Ukrainians). The people who tell you he's not are the sort of people who run Cardiff.
@unstoppable2180
@unstoppable2180 Күн бұрын
Repairing the flyover ramps (because damage over the years) and then using them would've been a lot cheaper surely.
@pauldriscoll5010
@pauldriscoll5010 Жыл бұрын
The Welsh government seems to think slowing traffic down to its lowest efficiency speeds and keeping it in an area longer will reduce emissions and help the environment
@alexanderswistak1778
@alexanderswistak1778 Жыл бұрын
Dubai was built in less then 50 years, we can barely build a bypass 🤣
@rogerswift1983
@rogerswift1983 Жыл бұрын
3:56 because "you will own nothing and you will be happy''
@colinwilson3750
@colinwilson3750 Жыл бұрын
Seems the traffic is already speeding at 20 mph! Mr Drakeford.
@DTWTheWanderingMuzungu
@DTWTheWanderingMuzungu Жыл бұрын
Would a video on how the A road numbering system works be a good topic to cover?
@Gordanovich02
@Gordanovich02 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Glasgow's "ski jumps" have a Welsh cousin. When I say "nice", obviously what I mean is "depressingly predictable".
@GrahamMacdonald-w9o
@GrahamMacdonald-w9o Жыл бұрын
I am disappointed that the video didn't mention the Gabalfa Interchange in north Cardiff, where three roads meet at three different levels - a sort of unnecessarily complicated smaller version of Spaghetti Junction. Mind you the Gabalfa Interchange was actually built and is or was a favourite spot for people to commit suicide. The missing link in the A4232 is a bit frustrating though but pales into insignificance compared with the Edinburgh City By-pass, which took about 50 years from the first design to actually opening and quickly became inadequate for the volume of traffic, because it was only two lanes in either direction and one accident quickly screws up the whole carriageway.
@notenoughmonkeys
@notenoughmonkeys Жыл бұрын
Not finished are 70 years? That road is finished!
@ChimpManZ1264
@ChimpManZ1264 Жыл бұрын
Never knew that Cardiff had trolley buses at one point.
@willpoundstone71
@willpoundstone71 Жыл бұрын
Britain's highways are a complete joke. Look at Spain, pretty much every decently large town is served by at least one controlled access freeway. I wonder if the problem is the high levels of sea salt in the air quickly rust out overpasses.
@jonnoMoto
@jonnoMoto Жыл бұрын
The M32 overpass was in the news and mentioned something along those lines. It has bad/damaged drainage so the salt that is spread in winter goes into the concrete. The rebar rusts causing swelling (along with the bearings) and the concrete spalls. The thing is shagged, they reduced speed limit years ago because rust ate away the crash barrier supports and there's no money and seemingly no will to fix it.
@paulsengupta971
@paulsengupta971 Жыл бұрын
Spain was deemed a poor country so has has massive investment of EU funds (read UK, French and German funds!) to improve it to bring it up to standard. Did you ever see Clarkson's "Meet the Neighbours" series? He argued with the lady collecting tolls on a Spanish motorway that he didn't have to pay as he'd already paid for the road as a British tax payer...
@LesD9
@LesD9 Жыл бұрын
@@paulsengupta971 What the Spanish never thought about was the benefit of all that motorway network for the Moroccan fruit and veg. farmers. They can get their cheaper fruit to North Europe much quicker now and undercut the Spanish!
@willpoundstone71
@willpoundstone71 Жыл бұрын
@@LesD9 Cheaper fruit is a good thing. That's a great example of how good highways increase living standards
@jonnoMoto
@jonnoMoto Жыл бұрын
​@@paulsengupta971central wales has far better roads in places as it got EU funding. There used to be signs about it just after they were done. Not sure if they're still there (the signs). Used to be amazing to suddenly come across perfectly smooth and level roads when out on my motorbike.
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