Why is Chomper so good in speedruns..?

Chomper is good, and I can explain why!
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[@Sasquash19]

Thanks for all the support on this video guys! What plant should I talk about next?

[@noobstarrrr]

cob cannon🦐

[@Ash-Out]

Tall-Nut 🥜

[@SamenPvz]

talk about snowpea lmaoo

[@ducksarecooi]

How about imitater?

[@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox]

Magnet-shroom. It's one of my favorites.

[@austiethewastie]

chomper has the same case as guacodile in pvz2, many casuals dont get that they are both not a worse insta/peashooter, but a spamable insta

[@alricweng]

cost is a problem but if you have a good farm you can spam easy

[@daunderrated3106]

But the fact that early wave in pvz2 is quite hard that you can't greed too much

[@bongcloudopening5404]

​@@daunderrated3106 for me it's the opposite, if i can't greed the early game enough, im doomed regardless

[@frostwing1899]

@@alricwengguac is cheaper than chomper and it’s a 50 sun meta so cost is even less of a problem

[@Xeamless]

​@@daunderrated3106you can?

[@SamenPvz]

Chomper eating Zomboni is the most cursed thing that won't fit into my mind

[@ianjohnson218]

Try using it for bobsled bonanza. Sometimes you might catch it eating a whole bobsled at once

[@TheDuckyDino]

Well it’s not like the Zomboni won’t fit into the Chomper’s mouth

[@lucas-waynejensonwright457]

How do chompers fit zombonies in their mouths? 😂😂😂

[@SwampKryakwa]

It's so stupid that this idea never crossed my mind as possible before I saw it in a video

[@dangductran2926]

Chomper can eat a whole bobsled team at once, if they haven't left the sled yet.

[@Potatoboii2]

I do find it a bit annoying that the game both knows that people won't be using chomper, and also doesn't do much to convey how good they can be, even from a casual perspective. Quote from the tree of wisdom: "Chompers and Wall-nuts work exceedingly well together." Obviously trying to encourage players to work around the chewing time, but the thing is, *they don't work well together* at least, not in my expericance. A better piece of 'Chomper advice' they could've put on the tree of wisdom, in my opinion is something like: "You wanna know how I deal with the tougher zombies quick and easy? Emergency Chomper. They never see it coming..."

[@Qwertyexists]

Watch out for its very long digestion though.

[@Sasquash19]

I do agree with this, the game doesn’t explain chomper’s role all that well.

[@dinoboiis8147]

This is probably a reason why chomper burrows in the shooter games. It’s role is not only melee defense but also surprise attack

[@cheesecake1255]

Who even uses the wisdom tree

[@namvutranngoc6945]

or just lose it! it's a "fast recharge instant with an upside". @@Qwertyexists

[@Blackened-gw6pm]

"Or if you were playing 5-5 over and over for some reason you masochist" I feel targeted

[@Sasquash19]

you were :)

[@cucaspeedrunner451]

Maybe he was talking about you

[@Jelly_shy_guy_man]

⁠@@Sasquash19chomper can’t kill ballon zombies

[@pedroivog.s.6870]

My grandma would always get stuck in 5-5 when redoing the newgame+

[@Shyguymask]

Even ignoring speedrunning, there's something about it where the more you increase the difficulty of the game, the more valuable Chomper becomes. For example I playtested a PvZ1 mod that made the game a lot more difficult but otherwise kept the plant balance intact, and the combination of feeling the need to plant more sunflowers & armored zombies spawning more often than Instas recharges, actually made me spam Chomper unironically and it worked in some cases.

[@bdpbasar626]

#shyguymask4ever

[@stompballs]

oh my god! glad to see you still active!

[@flyingtank]

Your alive?

[@SamenPvz]

Chomper is actually broken in the 12x mod

[@vscriq]

​@@SamenPvzFR

[@mattsopiratoso790]

Chomper is a living example of how we focus too much on the negatives instead of comparing the pros and cons.

[@AAsg-fq6wy]

Fax

[@pizzatowerfan789]

I tried using chomper in a casual playthrough as a fast recharge instant and its pretty good to take care of high hp zombies

[@andrrevidanes8060]

I genuinely thought that was the purpose of it. And I used it that way.

[@slammersova3021]

Huge fan

[@techissus7449]

​@@andrrevidanes8060same

[@GritterTheBuckethead]

Funny thing is that chomper’s also really good in the console exclusive vs mode, despite having no changes. Because of how aggressive the mode is in high level play. Having someone who can take off most high health zombies with a 7 second recharge has it’s use, as well as being able to potentially use him as a deterrent to high health zombies due to the fast recharge. His viability is a matter of environment really, in aggressive environments like speedruns or versus mode are where he thrives due to the faster pace.

[@Sasquash19]

Yeah! I didn’t even talk about the vs mode but they are similar ideas!

[@krispyhappy]

Chomper is the perfect mix between a close attacker and an instant plant, the only thing holding it back is cost, but gas great synergy.

[@mesotolioma5089]

You have 10 second- you have 5 second- *GAS*

[@julioazevedo8488]

Why tf people think that scaredy shroom is a bad plant?? He's literally a peashooter that costs 25 sun

[@Fera-gr5mm]

Most mushrooms are cheaper than they deserve

[@Desolator-ny7cb]

Maybe because he still gets eaten even when he ducks.

[@Brainlexe_hasldied]

then work around its downside of being scared by placing it in the back :v

[@SyRose901]

In a casual setting, Scaredy is overshadowed to death by Puff. Yeah, 25 sun for a Peashooter is extremely good where it matters, but how about 0 sun? In a speedrun, you want to plant shooters to fill up lanes FAST. So, pick BOTH Scaredy and Puff. Puff being free makes the process way easier. Plant Puff on one lane, Scaredy on another, etc. Early game gets way faster. Same idea revolved around for Cactus' case, a plant thought *the* worst in PvZ. Cactus does work on Roof's low surface, so maybe take that with Peashooter and Cabbage for cheap and fast planting. The whole idea is to reduce time spent recharging.

[@dangductran2926]

​@@SyRose901Cactus work on roof?

[@Pseudo_Notfound]

4:29 "Or does it?" *Vsauce music start to play*

[@ruthlimsiaco276]

underrated

[@dudamesh9541]

this whole video feels like what I write to make the word requirment for school essays

[@Sasquash19]

Don’t worry, the next video will be about several different things rather than just one plant.

[@budgetproductions1178]

I just realized my childhood was filled with speed running strats without realizing. spam sunflowers, spam plants, and I barely use any wallnuts

[@Leefbay]

Well speedrunners use wall-nuts from what I've heard.

[@empdisaster10]

I do think a lot of chompers hate comes from people incorrectly comparing it to plants like peashooter, Instead of plants like squash. It’s an instant that functions like a non instant. It’s cost is almost entirely made up for as soon as it kills it’s second zombie which is very possible in speeding since you’re usually keeping the zombies off the front line. It’s honestly still useful in casual as an instant you use closer to your line since it’ll deal with the stronger zombies for you

[@doomed89]

Squash is 50 and can kill 2 at once if they are close enough together Chompper costs 150. 1 v 1 chomper is worse than squash by a lot. It's only because you can spam him that makes him useful.

[@shotgun6X]

​@@doomed89squash's recharge makes him pointless yo use unless there are gargantuars. And even then, just use a freeze to let your normal shooters kill them

[@RazzNt]

this reminds me of the three musketeers from clash royale, its not that these cards/plants are bad, but people just dont know how to use them efficiently and/or their playing style just don't really match up with the card/plant

[@crystals5036]

3M is gud, bad cards are probably something like sparky, loved her, tried to make her work but she’s too niche! Niche is fine if she excels at certain things, but she don’t, has too many counters/rare circumstances to work, etc. just rip her

[@daamazingfireman5566]

During my casual playthrough of PvZ, I always brought chomper because of its fast cooldown. The downside of it having a long attack cooldown is completely negated with the shovel. Just dig up the old chomper and place a new one!

[@mateuscparedes3199]

Exactly, but some people dont know this possibility lol

[@purplecatjake]

Never realized Chomper got this much hate, it's a fun concept of a plant and It's really fun. I play casually and I always saw it as more cost effective than other instant plants because it's a recharging instant kill so I could save sun for other stuff. A lot of levels I had a front line of wallnuts with chompers behind them and that generally served me well enough.

[@moo7662]

3:14 MOM MOM IM IN A SASQUASH VIDEO

[@FrostMonolith]

I love your showing a casual perspective of why they would think Chomper is not their favorite. One thing to add that casuals don't consider chompers as instants.

[@WarTie]

I’ve always loved Chomper, used it mainly with Snow-Pea. The chilly lad would keep weaker zombies away while Chomper handles things like Football and the like. One of my all time combos.

[@dinoboiis8147]

A planting a random chomper to quickly snuff out a powerful zombie seems like inspiration for its burrow ability in the shooter games

[@StingRai08]

i always play chomper. basically every level, i play chomper. everybody used to think i was stupid and just wasteful of sun, but then they watched me actually play and suddenly im a genius. its a great plant, and ive been training for speedrunning pvz because of it.

[@EclipseonPMD]

I never understood why no liked Chomper. It got me through the game very easily. Two rows of Chompers is just an impenetrable wall. Cool to see it be good in speedrunning.

[@Jelly_shy_guy_man]

I use chomper regularly 💀🐸

[@Aryzon13]

Chomper is funnily enough the most important plant in the flash version where you face off against giga football zombies in endless mode. They can tank 2 squashes or cherries but chomper still eats them in one go.

[@zerotimeleft]

survival endless demo version locks you to 4 plants lolol

[@AstraGaming-is1gd]

Didn't know about speedrunning, but chomper already was one of my favorite plants. Planting one behind another made them even more efficient.

[@MChatlakk]

Well thats feels good to hear that thankfully and you gain well-deserved subscriber

[@TheChost857]

"Stand proud chomper, you are good"

[@exegamer27]

so my take on this video is Chomper*casual*-anti-goat Chomper*Speedruns*-Goated

[@greg-un7bk]

Love how people call chomper the worst plant when sea shroom exists lol

[@Ash-Out]

Man. You really mentioned every PLUS fact that's so important about Chomper. Very good video, covers all of my thoughts about the Plant. Keep it up. Also, I really wonder what your opinion about Tall-Nut is...and, I wanna see you doing a Stream with only Pool Speedruns, but you're forced to use both Tall-Nut and Mime Tall-Nut. It might end up as a brand new type of Speedrun idk 😁 have a good one bro!

[@1TieDye1]

This video has been recommended to me constantly since you uploaded it I think.. I am finally giving in. Good vid.

[@surda2870]

I always loved chomper not because I tought it was anything spectacular but because i really like the design, so 5 year old me picked chomper for every level in the game, chomper is still my favorite plant to this day!

[@karmadvd]

hard take bro coming from a huge chomper fan i must say you just made my day

[@EdwynSMOrc]

Dude, i've never seen anything about pvz speedrunning. Chomper has always been my favorite plant so i'm here for that. Also thank you for the amazing video.

[@repacharge431]

Just another classic incredible video from the 19th sassquash, good job man 👍

[@Sasquash19]

Thank you! More to come too!

[@azurememory]

8:26 No way LMAOOOO 😂😂😂 that level really is the level of all times isn’t it

[@Styfalled]

I just like it because it adds an extra layer to my defense, it’s a reusable insta so it feels right to use.

[@Quantouchgrass]

This video really makes everyone rethink of using plants like chomper

[@PhoxjawVA]

Good stuff as usual my brotha 👍

[@Sasquash19]

Hell yeah :)

[@ianjohnson218]

One of my favourite casual strategies for adventure mode pool use to be to fill the land lanes with spikeweed, then the pool with chompers. I always felt that it was convenient for trying to get the ambush zombies out of the way quickly

[@catmoon95]

Chomper is my favorite pvz plant. Glad to see there's I'd a part of the community that considers it useful

[@Selfie-3211]

love this video, I agree that chomper is good, I tend to sometimes use him with stallers in most mods, or spam him

[@huntercoda4887]

Selfie is that really you?

[@Selfie-3211]

@@huntercoda4887 is it?

[@UltimateYoutuber999]

as a actual chomper fan, I see this as an absolute W

[@dokchampa9324]

as a casual chomper truther im so glad to belong to the objectively correct minority

[@ramondiamond6152]

No way I've just been casually enjoying chomper all on my own this whole time 😭

[@masroorahmadbani1712]

I love carnivorous plants so i loved chomper even as a casual

[@squidwardlegends2950]

I remember using 2 rows of chompers and just a bunch of garlics and ice shrooms for slowing down zombies with 1-2 rows of spikeweed if theres zambonis. Good times

[@sh22real]

It is also very satisfying, therefore fun, therefore good

[@TheDuckyDino]

Chomper has always been one of my favorite plants so it’s cool to see peoples opinions of him in this game change lol

[@namvutranngoc6945]

I feel like it's like Mag Grass in the sense that it's a direct conversion from sun to damage (like creeps20) has said. it's also like, idk, a fast-recharging instant with an upside, so it's not actually bad ...

[@rivianexcel763]

so basically cherry bomb: great @ killing squash: great @ cost chomper: great @ spam potato mine: between squash n chomper on the triangle

[@Sasquash19]

Pretty much yeah!

[@aamonesamiit-baur2857]

Chomper is my favorite plant for this exact reason- he’s so unique that you have to play around him, either by changing his role (making him like a cherry bomb) or by changing your loadout to work with him

[@TheUmbraN0tG4ming]

I absolutely love chomper

[@yoshiegg95]

I‘m so glad that despite the reputation it has, it was chosen to be one of the main 4 plants in Garden Warfare.

[@sakuchi4914]

Basically a very hefty costed magnifying grass

[@Wolf-oc6tx]

I am not a speed runner but atleast in plants vs zombies 1, chomper is a very good plant defensive play-styles(where you focus on getting sun producers, ranged plants and defensively oriented plants onto the lawn quickly) do to being able to draw out the early part of the wave long enough to get you defences and sun producers up more easily.

[@angelicburger2233]

I find it fun to run wall nut, chomper, and snow pea. It makes it so much slower yes, but it makes me not need to worry about anything under a garg.

[@VelvetIcematoro]

Back in the day I'd setup 2 rows of Chompers behind Nuts and watch the carnage.

[@rubygraves978]

I loved chomper while playing casual. I just planted nut in front of them or do 2 lines for a chomper to have a back chomp backup

[@CarlosRios1]

4:28 *VSauce music*

[@whisp533]

This video was so insanely entertaining, thanks for this video bro.

[@TheOneYouCantBEAR]

My favourite strat in PvZ is spamming Sun flowers/shrooms and Potato Mines, and it really made Chomper shine in Zombotany. It even takes out Tallnut zombie, which tanks 2 insta plants

[@Taceria]

Well for a long time like a couple of years I was into agreement that yes chomper is a bad plant but my heart changed and it's one of my favorite plants if not my favorite! Because I'm a fan of Sonic I'm also a fan of plants that make plants versus zombies go faster. Because usually Sonic is a platformer that takes around a minute to be to each act. And chomper helps make a 10-minute long level into a 2 minute long level

[@Enderkura]

I was surprised to see this in my recommended, I didn't know there was such a hate for the Chomper. I'm casual as ever, and I always like to use chompers whenever I can because of their cool down. I guess not everyone plants 2-3 full collumns of sunflowers as a minimum for one flag levels lmao.

[@FancyGianGamerPlayz]

Casuals vs me Casuals: use doom shroom every level Me: *USES SHOVEL EVERY LEVEL TO SHOVEL CHOMPER*

[@FancyGianGamerPlayz]

"Worst plant" "*Chomper left the chat*" *shovel left the chat crying*

[@armorbearer9702]

I get it. The more sun you have to burn. The better Chomper performs.

[@Drippum]

“suicide chomper” fits not only a playstyle in the garden warfare games, but in this game too 💀

[@sabojude]

I feel left out as a casual player who likes chomper, it can target zombies standing on the other side of a wallnut. That's bonkers, and basically marks them as a better alternative to the potato mine.

[@buzinessdog]

nice video!

[@chinoaplasta6916]

I just wanna completo the zen garden

[@ThiagoGlady]

video resume: *fast cooldown*

[@xenotyphon]

Single-target insta with fast recharge time to be easily replaced if needed or is otherwise reuseable.

[@acidgiraffes]

2:48 young fly on the track!

[@mobgabriel1767]

"chomper is the worst plant PVZ" As a wise menber of the jedi council would say:incorrect

[@user-dn6kc6jz2b]

I play casually and can see the use BEFORE this

[@ForeverFree2Play]

Even when I was casually playing I always felt in the back of my mind that chomper was a great plant. I loved to get a few rows of chompers and double sunflowers and some added flaming pea spam just to salt the wound. I don't think this would constitute casual play though, because, as you said, all that casual players care about is what works and beats the level. I was experimenting far more than I was succeeding, and I think that could have been a third type of player to mention, because I most definitely was not speedrunning😂 As an experimental player, I say that chomper is a good plant. See what you can accomplish with chomper, and other lesser plants, yourself.

[@nrasher]

i hope this gets popular

[@cleanerben9636]

I just fill the lawn with sunflowers. If I don't get max sun I feel cheated

[@yoshicraft6470]

I've always thought of chomper as a sort of wildcard pick. Just something to throw in when playing adventure for the th time. That or I'm playing bobsled bonanza where he's busted. I also find it funny how he was indirectly buffed in the giga mod simply because he has that instakill regardless of health stat.

[@Jimmy_the_ork]

I played chomper in garden warfare because he looked cool

[@Raykon333]

That's a lot of words to say Chomper is basically a Squash with faster recharge time for 3x the price.

[@TheDarkMewtwo996]

I unironically used chomper during both adventures all the time, to me, it was the most badass plant despite his flaws, and it's been my favorite ever since.

[@EyelinerAce]

Chomper is my favorite plant

[@cucaspeedrunner451]

Loved the video, Chompy is indeed a really good plant for speedrunning and also kinda cute design! Btw, why your 2-5 split is called "Horny Jail"?

[@Potatoboii2]

bonk

[@chrisk6637]

Chompy?

[@cucaspeedrunner451]

Yes Chompy

[@Sasquash19]

You can name splits on Twitch as a channel point redemption, so a twitch chatter wanted to name it that XD

[@cucaspeedrunner451]

Yeah, that makes more sense now xDDDD

[@gundamkw1095]

In simple term, when you focus on speed, the cooldown + instant kill alone make chomper better pick than plant that have sustainability.

[@frosticle6409]

I played PVZ around 4-6 years old. It was my favourite and best plant for night levels lol. But I was using chomper against Bucketheads too and as a front liner with Walnuts. Edit: he was also my defensive plant so I could ignore polevaulters and use Chomper as my Defense against them instead of Tallnut.

[@sinteleon]

I also like that chomper is an instant that isn't used immediately, like mines

[@pedroivog.s.6870]

I just would add to this video about the way waves progress in PvZ 1 and 2 For the moment a zombie arrives, a certain timer starts and the next wave will arrive after that amount of time passes, OR if you depleted a certain percentage of the total amount of hp of the last wave that appeared. This was probably implemented so the player would never be awkardly waiting for more zombies. That's why Chomper and other instas taking down zombies faster allows for less time spent on the level. Chomper specifically benefiting from this due to it's fast recharge and cutting out a large chunk of the wave's hp by eating the strongest zombies

[@KtooooYaaa1337]

В обычном прохождении chomper не так уж и плох на самом деле. Можно поставить его так, чтобы тяжёлые зомби доходили до него, а обычные и слабые - нет. Но обычно проще взять просто больше растений наносящих урон... Но всё же он довольно дешёвые и его главная фишка - многоразовость.

[@zacmarken65]

casual players wouldn't be dunking on chomper though, i remember all those years ago when i first started playing pvz, chomper was really cool to me, i put chomper in a seed slot a lot.

[@uzmabilal6313]

He’s also s tier in gigs mod and their variants

[@themiller3940]

Everyone sleeps on Chomper. Happy for this iustice

[@12luigi45]

" Chomper is so bad with its 42 sec downtime " " What downtime, Chomper is an insta plant " 😂

[@kirbstagoontheaxolotl]

I'm more of a casual player, never watched pvz speedrunning and know that while the eating time is slow, the recharge was fast so I went in and was like 'the eating time's going to be slow, but speedrunners use it as an insta for the recharge instead of a static defender, don't they' and was absolutely correct. Playing PvZ 2 in Neon Mixtape Tour has taught me about abusing what you can (Speaking of, I have an idea now I will use during the video)

[@ImmacHn]

"Casual players only plat 7 to 10 sunflowers" Then there's me who plants sunflowers constantly until I don't have space

[@user-dn6kc6jz2b]

Also, as a casual, I plant 2-3 rows of sunflowers per level. Guess I'm an oddball for casuals

[@elmiklosyt652]

When he said or does it? I immediately was specting Vsauce song