This is a pvz1 tierlist based on speedrunning...some interesting picks in interesting places.
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@lunar62399 ай бұрын
most of the list seems reasonable except i think coffee bean should probably be added to the utility section ngl.
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
I think I also agree, but coffee bean also isn't required by any means to beat the Roof levels. It just makes them much much faster. I agree though, in hind sight, I should've put it in utility
@oilman123789 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19in my opinion all the insta kills are S tier and scaredy shroom is D tier
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
@@oilman12378 this is why casual play is much different from speed running play
@oilman123789 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19 i agree
@praloedra67389 ай бұрын
I wish he put garlic and starfruit higher, they work great together in a strategy I came up with: Starwatch, where you make 3 lanes of starfruits with garlic at the end so the zombies go in the middle and get BOMBARDED
@HappySunflower9 ай бұрын
The list is really solid, but I think cherry bomb and squash deserve S tier too since they don't need coffee bean in day levels, cherry bomb can be use instantly with quite large area and squash you can stack up with its quick cooldown + super cheap, in some cases they're quicker and cheaper to use than doomshroom + coffee bean 😊
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
No yeah you’re definitely right. In hindsight, I definitely didn’t put enough plants in S tier and underrated a few. But I think this is still a pretty decent list overall.
@peas_at_the_zombieees9 ай бұрын
Hi happy sunflower!!!
@LemonAid_osc8 ай бұрын
@@peas_at_the_zombieeescool pfp
@peas_at_the_zombieees8 ай бұрын
@@LemonAid_osc thx
@Blooddroptheoriginal7 ай бұрын
@@peas_at_the_zombieeesIS THAT TREE FROM TPOT??!?!?!
@DaCrump9 ай бұрын
The Puffshroom love largely comes from just how spammable it is and how strong it is for challenge runs like low seed slot or not picking up natural sun drops. It's 0 cost, decent damage in story mode and can even stall on day levels. It definitely doesn't stand up as well for Speedruns but good to see the little guy pull up into A tier and still hold those frontlines like the trooper it is.
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
Puffless challenges would change things for sure XD
@Rocket_Gunner7414Ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19 hell, the game even tells you a warning when you don't pick puffshroom for 2-1, like these for you have no sun producers or like no aquatic plants
@BulbasaurRepresent9 ай бұрын
You can't be making a speedrunning tierlist and not have chomper in A! It's THE speedrun plant!
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
TRUE I UNDERRATED IT!
@aidancode9 ай бұрын
Interesting to see the speedrunning POV since I've never played that aspect of the game and pretty much just do mods. The tier list practically flips itself on its head when it's in the context of going speedy but you explained the reasons for your placements well.
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
It makes this as a speed game so interesting in my opinion. Just because it is so different from playing casually
@Helio_Asou9 ай бұрын
This Tier List is really, really interesting and I can see the reasoning behind it. As an Endless player the list is waay different than expected, and I love that. Very surprised to see that Jalapeños are ranked quite similar in speedrunning and endless, but for totally different reasons. I like the fact that dooms are universally S tier and Golden Magnets F tier.
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
Endless is definitely a different beast. gold magnet sucks lmao
@jraff27357 ай бұрын
It's good for when I'm being lazy getting the 100,000 coins for mini games tho@@Sasquash19
@friendlyneighborhoodkelbea72583 ай бұрын
@@jraff2735 you don't have the same issue when playing the PC version.
@jraff27353 ай бұрын
No minigames? (megamind meme image goes here)@@friendlyneighborhoodkelbea7258
@NoOne-yv2ei2 ай бұрын
I love how there an entire game’s worth of content and people just ignore like half of it and either speedrun or endless; but both are super fun in my opinion
@theskull10308 ай бұрын
15:03 I'd say Cabbagepult is slightly better than Peashooter, as it does the same damage per second plus counters zombies with shields and the snorkel zombie. I know that doesn't amount to much in the context of an Adventure mode speedrun, but when I play a second Aventure run or mini games, I always bring a cabbagepult whenever I would've otherwise picked a peashooter. Edit: I just realized Peashooter does have an advantage: Being able to work with Tourchwood. But like you said, setting that up in the first place is expensive, so I don't always use Tourchwood.
@cameron_mitchell19702 ай бұрын
I’d say that speedrunners would probably be picking repeater instead of peashooter if they’re doing torchwood as well. So I agree, cabbage pult is better than peashooter.
@randomprotag93299 ай бұрын
It still suprises me that doomshroom is as powerful as it is. regardless of what you are doing in PVZ1 (with sunproducers) its still insanely powerful. theres not a way that a functional kill all zombies on screen is not broken. even competive vs mode has to ban it to make plants not auto win the mid game and furhter
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
yeah doom is busted
@mikadosannoji5539 ай бұрын
it took me almost a decade to notice that doom shroom doesnt actually kill everything onscreen
@natnew329 ай бұрын
It's actually Sudden Death that Doom Shroom is banned because of, because recharges are significantly reduced. 25-Sun Coffee Bean doesn't help.
@randomprotag93299 ай бұрын
@@natnew32 How did 125 doom last with 25 sun coffee bean. vs mode upped starfruit but missed the screen nuke plant.
@kadyr84519 ай бұрын
Damn i didn’t realize this was a pretty small channel, I genuinely thought this video was really well made
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
thank you!
@ayyewalkdaplank9 ай бұрын
I don't like the videos with this loud-speaking manner of big youtubers. Head hurts after some time. I admire people like This Guy. Just calmly explaining stuff. Nice job by the way!
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
@@ayyewalkdaplank The comment I just read was 11:36
@iwersonsch51319 ай бұрын
Iceshroom has another niche use, it can prevent the ambush in Pool and Fog which iirc is sometimes used in survivals and minigames
@NoOne-yv2ei2 ай бұрын
Endless too. It also freezes in the sky in roof levels so you don’t get bungee ambushes (at least that’s how the Chinese community, where i saw the explanation from, likes to think of it as)
@CactusPro39 ай бұрын
Nice tier list! I fully agree with this (although I’m not a speed-runner) Make a tier list of the most annoying zombies in a speed run please!
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
Maybe I will...
@mohsinkhan-fo4bg9 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19 i think it will probably just be high health zombies because they take longer to kill
@meghanrodriguez23939 ай бұрын
Pretty darn epic! I would like to see more tier lists regarding the game. This was excellently made and very entertaining!
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
Thank you, there will definitely be more on the way!
@User.l48 ай бұрын
I love how almost every support/trap plant is high up in the tiers
@User.l48 ай бұрын
Wait scaredy shroom on B? Why?
@vqqiu21798 ай бұрын
@@User.l4the guy explains it in his video mate
@Fibero-Fibero69_4204 ай бұрын
@@User.l4TDLR; puff but full range and scare mechanic isn't that bad
@MrRat-nm7hq9 ай бұрын
Love the list, I feel like there is no info missing that I would have to look up, everything was explained shortly and simply
@peas_at_the_zombieees9 ай бұрын
20:39 “This is Mount Everest, my guy” had me dying
@ZenithFracture9 ай бұрын
11:35 idk why this used to be my favorite plant when i was a kid lmao
@Squaryyy9 ай бұрын
i used to think cactus's projectiles bled zombies because they're pointy
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
@@Squaryyy Why would cactus just make zombies bleed out? I mean 11:36 So that wouldn't make sense
@Superchicken_368 ай бұрын
The coin plants, coffee bean, and umbrella leaf should have all been in utility tier. Twin sunflower and Blover probably should have too but I could see more of an argument made for them not being there.
@user-we7rv5ry2u3 ай бұрын
yeah especially coffee bean
@SyRose9012 ай бұрын
@@user-we7rv5ry2u Sas does agree on Coffee Bean in Utility, seeing his replies in the comments. He said that the coin plants are actually detrimental, so F tier they go. Blover helps on Fog, but isn't required. Same goes for Twin Suns, could help outside of Shopless but isn't required.
@blackholetl3 ай бұрын
I agree with this video and understand the reasoning quite well behind the decisions. Though, with the tier 2 floor spike plant you said that infinite pierce just isn't that useful when that is literally why gloom/puff shroom are so good. I know why it sucks, it was just a weird thing i picked up on while watching. On a side note, i unironically love Kernel Pult which is probably why I'm not a speed runner.
@BassForever3 ай бұрын
This list inspired me to pick up PvZ for the first time and I'm currently in the middle of roof.
@thekietnguyen26739 ай бұрын
Now this is high quality content m8
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
thank you!
@DnDnG2102 ай бұрын
First speed runner to not put puff shroom in s tier I respect it
@arcticjohn1079 ай бұрын
awhile back i made a plant tier based on their difficulty to handle in i zombie, kernal pult got its own tier.. i swear they have higher butter rates or something stupid in i zombie...
@Bertiboy8 ай бұрын
Oh definitely. I refuse to believe that I am that unlucky that my kernel pults sometimes don’t throw a butter once as a zombie walks all the way up the lawn but I drop a zombie 2 squares away from one and it barely makes it 2 steps before getting stunned.
@swordsmancs3 ай бұрын
As a casual player that has no idea what a 50% rule is, it’s really interesting to see just how different casual strats and speedrun strats are. Like for example, tallnuts are practically revered in casual play and for good reason; they block a lot of annoying zombies (poles and pogos), have tons of health, and are pretty cheap. If you’re doing survival endless you basically need tallnuts or you’re gonna get overrun In a speedrun tho those qualities aren’t nearly as valuable since you’re mostly going all-in on offense to kill everything as quickly as possible rather than learning longevity strats, so it ends up just not being used
@SyRose9012 ай бұрын
Now, Tall-Nut in Survival: Endless is really interesting because there are many strats without it(I remember mainly the 2009 GTM builds, that stands for Gloom, Twin and Melon I think or 8-cobs or 10-cobs or Gatling Peas+Torchwood stuff), but strats with it seem to survive forever, instead of say, a few thousand flags. I especially love the variety of depth in these strats, from simple dolphin zombie shutdown to intentional ladder strats that deal with, well, everything except Gargs, where they spam instants. GTM is still my main after all the years, ever since I fell in love with the fact that it does not stall(well it does slow them) anything but Gargs. What's so interesting is the Football-Zomboni thing. In a GTM build, there's a Fume-Shroom in the inner land lane that provides just enough DPS for Footballers to fall and they bite the Fume, like once. If you Pumpkin the Fume, however, Zomboni reaches it. So, you take out the Pumpkin for Zomboni, and re-plant for Football. In a wave where they both appear, Cob them. GTM falls to Jack-in-the-box zombies, funnily enough, due to Glooms being planted in columns 7 to 9 in the pool. I think most Tall-Nut strats prevent such a thing, yeah?
@LilyBrew152 ай бұрын
Dude dolphin rider triggers me
@littleghast329 ай бұрын
I think you should put marigold in s tier since it can help you speedrun the slowest time by doing nothing
@adamstadick20448 ай бұрын
5:03 for outside of speed running puff shroom is definitely the best plant in the game, it can solo every single night level before pools, and even after that it’s still a 0 sun staller. Puff shroom is what makes no sun flower/shroom runs possible, and being able to be so strong that you don’t need what most people consider necessary plants is insane.
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
Puff shroom is good in nighttime but pretty much useless in daytime. Puff shroom is actually probably A tier and not B tier(I just hate puff shroom and I don't know why)
@adamstadick20446 ай бұрын
@@KhajaSodhupuff shroom is still useful outside of night levels. It’s a 0 sun staller, just place it down and it stalls zombies early game.
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
@@adamstadick2044 I've never found that too good as I use tall nuts and if we consider puff shroom 300 toughness and tall but 8000 toughness like pvz2(I know puff shroom has 150 toughness in pvz2) and say that you can get 4x more puff shrooms than tall nuts we get 1200 toughness compared to 8000 toughness. It is not hard to get 125 sun
@friendlyneighborhoodkelbea72583 ай бұрын
@@KhajaSodhu in PvZ one there isn't really much stallers, so puff shroom has no real competition. It's very usefull for stalling, like in a no sunflower run it's a life saver in day levels. Using Puff Shroom also makes both Zombotany minigames a complete joke.
@ThemissingJem_097 ай бұрын
This might be the best ranking for pvz I've seen (exept squash)
@404-usernotfound68 ай бұрын
this is a really good vide, but it would have been cool to hear you talk about plants weaknesses and why they didn't get higher on the list more, specifically for the higher tier plants like B and A tier
@Sasquash198 ай бұрын
Maybe I could do that. It would certainly clear up a lot of the rankings XD
@iwersonsch51319 ай бұрын
Okay, now the utilities. I'd put Sunflower in S cause it's way more crucial than you might think, so much so that it's even used at Night sometimes Sunshroom in B cause it's a situational improvement over Sunflower but can't even assert its position as the only sun producer at Night Lilypad in B cause more planting space and it lets you defend the water lanes like normal lanes, at a cost Flowerpot in A cause it's very likely to save a good chunk of time, but can't really carry anything on its own Gravebuster in B cause it does tend to speed up final waves and streamline your dps setup for a bit of timesave Plantern in C cause while it does prove its worth even in speedruns, it's only used in part of one stage and there are acceptable alternatives even there Coffeebean in A cause Gloomshroom in particular is just better on Roof and NG+ Day than it is in Night Double sunflower I think I'd put in D. Just takes too long to pay for itself Imitator high up in A tier. Pairs extremely well with Sunflower at the start, and in Survivals you can then move on to using two of something else. Only benched if you don't have the extra seed slot, which is like... 100% maybe?
I ranked Gold Magnet and Marigold in F tier because they are actually detrimental if you pick them. They don't do anything for the speedrun, and don't do anything for any future speedruns. Taking them is as useful as taking nothing. Coffee bean should be utility yes. Umbrella Leaf is in D tier because it is used in one level, and it is optional to use. This was based on how useful plants are to the speedrun. That's why there are plants ranked that aren't usually ranked.
@citrus57974 ай бұрын
I am a big fan of Wall-Nut, happy to see that they are eating good in speedruns.
@FrancoEchidna3 ай бұрын
one thing that i notice about puff-shrooms that no many talk about it on the internet is that it have a higher attack speed. what i mean is that a puff-shroom would shoot more projectiles than a regular pee shooter. the difference is not noticeable at first but once you compare them you'll notice that.
@misalignedmisanthropist2 ай бұрын
I love how Gloom-shroom is just the best plant for almost everyone, speedrunners, casual players, survival (endless) players, and everything in between
@lucianoariasduval9 ай бұрын
Of course, lists vary depending on the kind of player you are. As a restriction challenge player myself, puff-shroom is absolutely the best plant in the game. It's pretty much the sole reason why you can beat the game without sun producers. It's free damage and free stall, and that little extra bit it provides can spiral out of control super hard. Stalling waves for free while you set up sun producers (in challenges other than no producers, obviously) without having to compromise your sun ramping is often crucial. It's also a completely brainless final seed-slot if you have the room for it (because sometimes you don't even have enough plants that are legal for the challenge you're doing, assuming puff-shroom is allowed). Its usage on roof is somewhat limited, however.
@aaronmcgarity24108 ай бұрын
I once crashed pvz 1 because in its raining seeds a bungee zombie stole a doom shroom before it exploded
@personhiii9 ай бұрын
boys sasquash just uploaded
@pouazul42559 ай бұрын
11:36 AND CACTUS IS STRAIGHT GARBAGE!!!!!
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
Bro is speaking facts
@NibzEntertainment6 ай бұрын
Something good about Cattail that _could_ get her a higher rank is that she not only shoots spikes like Cactus, but the spikes are also homing.
@ERROR101889 ай бұрын
Nice vid
@shadowfigure93063 ай бұрын
wintermelon does same damage as normal melon, almanaac lies to you
@MontyLand3088 ай бұрын
you should do a pvz reseeded tierlist
@nemizune20 күн бұрын
Doom Shroom has always been my best buddy in the game.
@CakeCreepZ9 ай бұрын
I have been playing the pvz games my whole life and never really watched speedruning videos so i wanted to know how hard of a run is it (for whatever category you want)
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
None of the runs are actually that hard when you are first starting out with running. If you can just complete a run, then that works. The hard part comes with the time. Any% is usually 4hrs 30min for brand new runners, even sometimes upwards of 5hrs. There are shorter categories, like Normal Survivals which is only about an hour for new players. The runs aren't that difficult at the start, it just depends on how much time you want to spend on a run.
@danasarcos7792 ай бұрын
Gloom is a staple in roof speedruns, that alone shoukd also move coffee bean in A
@KalH-tg7tfАй бұрын
At the explosion I got a HUNDAY ad
@AbellaAlt9 ай бұрын
What's next?? Ranking Zombies based by how annoying they are????? Good vid! (Iirc, Cabbage does deal the same as Repeater...)
@aidancode9 ай бұрын
cabbage and repeater both do 40 damage per shot but repeater shoots at twice the speed repeater shoots 2 peas that do 20 damage every 1.5 seconds cabbage shoots 1 cabbage that does 40 damage every 3 seconds i believe these are the damage values?
@AbellaAlt9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I believe so. I would still put it on C tier cuz of cooldown...
@anijay649 ай бұрын
If it was just normal PVZ It would be a completely different story. Winter melon will be a easy S tier, cattail would be A or S, chomper would be probably D or C tier, melon would be a pretty high A tier, and the iceberg would probably be B tier. All of those are pretty significant changes and even though it’s my opinion I’m sure a lot of people would agree.
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
I still think I can make an argument for chomper being in B or even A in the regular game.
@anijay649 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19 I see what you mean. I would not prefer using it in adventure mode but I play last stand endless a lot and he is super good in that mode. He’s also good in the “column like you see em” minigame. In general he just works well when he is behind a walnut of some kind. It’s just there are way better and more affordable insta kill plants like potato mine, cherry bomb, jalapeño, squash, and doom shroom.
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
I mean it’s good in adventure mode too. As long as you’re able to support the sun cost of the chomper, you can pretty easily beat one flag, two flag levels with chomper and one other plant.
@brandonraganas71799 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19ehh? In a normal mode majority of pvz players ignores chomper. The only S tier in normal mode is popshroom.
@Taceria9 ай бұрын
Actually with enough grinding for the money you can buy gasoline pee he unlocked Torchwood and then in burn down the entirety of the roof just add Torchwood on the E6 column and Gatling P on the 5th or 4th column and then you're good to go
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
Yeah you could do that. For the purposes of speed running though, using that money to buy gloom shroom would be faster.
@sakuyaplayz8 ай бұрын
gasoline pee
@Taceria6 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19 yeah. The main point of Gloom shroom is piercing everything around itself
@lucyebrada29504 ай бұрын
I never used Plantern in my night pool, i just spammed shrooms except Scaredy Shrooom. Never even used Split Pea. I used Gloom Shroom against Miners instead
@fabrizeantonio44253 ай бұрын
I like how using Gloom Shroom counts as "crazy fast times" then you check and the wr is like, 3+ hours
@SkittyBeeper8 ай бұрын
Good video and good list though I wish you went a little more in depth with your reasoning for some plants placements like you did with the cactus. Also isn’t scaredy shroom a little high?
@Sasquash198 ай бұрын
Scaredy shroom isn’t high for a speedrunning list no. We use scaredy a LOT during speedruns
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19 I think that coffee bean should not be in the same tier as scaredy shroom. In my opinion coffee bean should be S tier
@TheAMan15028 ай бұрын
I think coffee bean should be on utility as it just is an enabler
@jthemad26169 ай бұрын
Spikerock does not only do double damage, it stalls gargs and negates zombonis, its useful for gloom strats since gloom is weak to Garg and Zomboni. Also Tallnut and Cattail deserve a bit better, maybe bottom C tier.
@Sasquash199 ай бұрын
Yes, but it is slow…for most cases. Pretty sure we use spike rock a few times, so it should be I’m C tier not D tier, but for the most part it is slower than other options.
@nawdawg8132 ай бұрын
What about the explode-o-nut on mobile? We are able to use it in any level.
@jackwright20128 ай бұрын
Fun fact:golden magnet is the only plant in pvz 1 that isn't used in pvz2 along with coffee bean, freeze shroom and doom shroom
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
Onot? Do you mean only or not the only?
@Themilkman81996 ай бұрын
Realistically wasn’t pumpkin the first introduction to the vines because you can plant on him
@zerofriends68 ай бұрын
As a garlic user on almost every level that I can in the game I'm offended. But I understand it's from a speed run perspective.
@pikapac22818 ай бұрын
Casually it's probably the best
@enderslime20906 ай бұрын
I’m not much of a speed runner but I do have good strats for survival
@Gameingnonstop9 ай бұрын
I knew that Fume-Shroom is the best plant in Plants VS Zombies
@Daniel-fz2qu9 ай бұрын
Uh, neat vid but why is ur subs 696?
@thebigbean87839 ай бұрын
Speedrunning pvz. Never would've thought to speedrun it. Looking forward to seeing what's what
@regiboi77093 ай бұрын
Bro forgot it was a speedrun tier list at the end
@dominusblack_yt30609 ай бұрын
Les go
@edytakwiatkowska8498 ай бұрын
7:37 i agree that doom shroom is a nuke
@erensahin53208 ай бұрын
make a tier list speedrun
@owennelson58148 ай бұрын
On a Casual Playthrough, Puff-Shroom is one of the best Plants, but on a Speedrun when you WANT to kill Zombies fast from range? Yeah...Not really THAT viable...I mean the most you can do is Chip Damage, but yeah you wanna use more than JUST the tiny mushroom bois for Night and Fog (still an AMAZING plant, just not one of the god tiers for Speedruns specifically)
@opsoo22293 ай бұрын
6:27 I was about to type a long essay
@cornstock99467 ай бұрын
I use cattail for my survival endless strategy
@epikstargaming47586 ай бұрын
Me who is a pvz and always play All version ( in android bc IM poor af) I enjoy my game but sometimes it's just get boring bcz it was to easy so sometime i play survival like ice only and smth and most of my fav plant is Rated low and that make me sad but is for speedrunner so IM fine bcz IM enjoying but sometimes i get bored bcz how easy those are and i deleted them but later on re download it and play it until the end again.
@willcrafters.9 ай бұрын
I beat the fog levels without using planterns or blover,torchwood too!
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
Now that's blind nights
@hongxiawang20492 ай бұрын
Technically sunshroom is a choice and peashooter is requiredcuz of the first stages
@ancientcaveboss79635 ай бұрын
11:36 got me laughing😂😂😂😂
@blessing17053 ай бұрын
The levelled up spikeweed can resist 9 smahes from grangtuar
@themonsterjack9 ай бұрын
Should of speedruned the tier list
@pickaxe42483 ай бұрын
21:55 says the plant that could kill a buckethead without help
@lankylank2749 ай бұрын
12:33 that’s kinda just Starfruit's use too but at least Split Pea can also shoot forward unlike Starfruit Edit: 18:04 …after that one round of Survival Night Hard, let’s just say it made me more protective when it came to people hating on her or just taking shit, meaning I wouldn’t agree with certain opinions (Hey, at least be glad it’s not Plantern of all things that I’m protective of, if anything, fuck Plantern!)
@Banana-doppio4372 ай бұрын
I always starfruit because it takes the job of splitpea
@bruhchannel12167 ай бұрын
17:07 how did that zombie swap lanes so fast doesnt only all star skip the "blegh" animation and imediantly switches lanes after a tick of eating
@Sasquash197 ай бұрын
If you type in “future” on your key board, zombies have these glasses on their head. These make them skip the animation.
@bruhchannel12167 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19nice to know
@ancientcaveboss79635 ай бұрын
6:38 ur making a stair
@primalpineapple13509 ай бұрын
Technically, peashooters are required to beat the game
@JorgeConArroz637 ай бұрын
Marigold and Gold-Magnet should be on Utility tier.
@WrathOfPhropet3 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain why people hate Scaredy shrooms? I liked to use them in my casual play
@Detour-_-3 күн бұрын
21:51 If this wasn’t a speed running tierlist wintermelon should be very high A tier of S tier
@AuuuuuuuuuuuA4 ай бұрын
tbh the icey plants deserve better, they do not slow down the spawning of zombies but the zombies themselves, I don't think having the zombies themselves be faster (or not-slower) will help at all.
@Sasquash194 ай бұрын
The strats we use are simply faster. Not to say that these plants are ALWAYS slow, but the alternatives are faster, like gloom shrooms, or repeaters. Both are faster alternatives to snow pea or winter melon for example. Ice shroom can freeze zombies off screen too, so that one actually can make things slower
@A.dude.you.know.7 ай бұрын
15:14 Not many people know this, but cabbage-pults deals slightly more damage than peashooters.
@Sasquash197 ай бұрын
They deal double damage as a peashooter, but they half the speed. It’s the same damage per second as peashooter
@nawdawg8132 ай бұрын
7:50 they nerfed doom shroom on mobile so now it’s 3 by 3
@Blooddroptheoriginal7 ай бұрын
2:43 off brand zombie:
@OfficerDreadАй бұрын
dont kill me but chompers my favorite, he's cool
@ancientcaveboss79635 ай бұрын
11:36 YES CATUS IS GARAGE
@mrcucumber58188 ай бұрын
tall nut deserves better.😔 honestly on night level 2 and mostly on roof levels i used him. hes a pretty solid nothing bad but a little expensive. he deserves a b tier.
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
Walls stall the game Its a speed running tier list I think you can put two and two together and know why Tall but is D tier
@Fibero-Fibero69_4204 ай бұрын
@@KhajaSodhuwell it's just wall nut but twice as expensive and in speedrunning you plant sunflowers like no tomorrow so at best like VERY low B or preferably high C
@KhajaSodhu4 ай бұрын
@@Fibero-Fibero69_420How much fiber'os do you have Mr fiber'os I guess Tall nuts could be used if a wall nut is on cooldown, but wall nut's probably won't be off cooldown much and even if a wall nuts is on cooldown you could still use jalapeño instead which I think is probably better than tall nuts
@Fibero-Fibero69_4204 ай бұрын
@@KhajaSodhu ye tru and imitator exists for a reason anyway Also I have 2
@shadowdweller359Ай бұрын
What’s the 50% rule?
@flourrrr4 ай бұрын
12:35 the anti dream
@Ash-Out9 ай бұрын
We. Need. The. Nuke.
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
Somehow a plant can survive a nuke but not 2 seconds of a zombie
@theskull10308 ай бұрын
15:24 If you're using Cabaggepult to have a cheaper attack plant to use in the time it takes you to set up repeaters and tourchwoods, you might as well just bring Peashooter. That way you can start gaining damage output from the moment you plant the tourchwoods instead of getting nothing until you plant thenñm both.
@tehesprite5028 ай бұрын
Except you can only place the Peashooters where you'd be placing the Repeaters, as far as Roof levels go. Cabbage-Pults can be placed behind that area.
@danielwendel14677 ай бұрын
Not my fav being the corn shooter 🥲
@Die4Gesichter3 ай бұрын
Someone that know about "bottom and top of the XY Tier" AND doesn't fill the S Tier eith 80% of the entries?! Niiice
@TristahnDaFunnyMan2 ай бұрын
No way New Shop+ Gameless
@naruto_15799 ай бұрын
Try speedrung brutal mode
@KhajaSodhu6 ай бұрын
What exactly changes in brutal mode Never gonna give you up