Scaredy Deserves Better

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Sasquash19

Sasquash19

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Scaredy is better than people think...

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@SamenPvz
@SamenPvz 8 ай бұрын
Scaredy as well as Starfruit were always heavily underrated plants because people didn't understand their full potential
@KhajaSodhu
@KhajaSodhu 7 ай бұрын
I have a question is star fruit good like should I eat star fruit as like a snack?(no seriously)
@mythicoal183
@mythicoal183 7 ай бұрын
​@@KhajaSodhuidk for a snack,but if you havent eat starfruit try it,its very delicious!
@atagunmehmett
@atagunmehmett 7 ай бұрын
​@@KhajaSodhuyummy
@laurahoekstra4968
@laurahoekstra4968 6 ай бұрын
that is very true
@blocks4857
@blocks4857 6 ай бұрын
Its a fucking peashooter
@monkwee1334
@monkwee1334 8 ай бұрын
People dislike scaredy shroom?
@kityondzhou6863
@kityondzhou6863 8 ай бұрын
yes. in pvz2 and pvz. At least I think
@zacharydt1706
@zacharydt1706 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's really over looked
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Poor scaredy
@oilman12378
@oilman12378 8 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19now i actually use it I WILL PUT IT IN S TIER IN ANY NON-VIDEO TIERLIST I MAKE
@oilman12378
@oilman12378 8 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19now number 2 I NOW RESPECT THIS
@petersusilo9588
@petersusilo9588 8 ай бұрын
Fun Fact : Scaredy shroom can work on column 4 in roof area, unlike peashooting plants and starfruit (I know about this from other people, you can try it).
@sabuguinhoC
@sabuguinhoC 3 ай бұрын
All of the plants have this gimmick, play the game
@petersusilo9588
@petersusilo9588 3 ай бұрын
@@sabuguinhoC All the peashooting plants, starfruit, cactus, and puff shroom couldn't work on column 1 to 4 in roof. But, the scaredy shroom could work on column 4 in roof, although this still couldn't work on column 1 to 3 in roof.
@sabuguinhoC
@sabuguinhoC 3 ай бұрын
@@petersusilo9588 sorry i misunderstood
@Lyxilytical
@Lyxilytical 8 ай бұрын
cool video i think the reason scaredy-shroom is always ranked way lower than puff-shroom is kinda for the exact reason you're arguing why that shouldn't be the case due to how similar the two are, and puff-shroom being simply better, the problem is that puff directly affects how scaredy is perceived while a slightly worse puff-shroom is still a good plant, puff directly outclassing scaredy and scaredy not having the most to differentiate itself defo makes it come off as completely useless on first impression
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I see that, but I just don’t think it should be THAT much worse. Even if it gets outclassed. …plus, if you take both scaredy shroom and puff shroom it beats all of fog aside from diggers and maybe ambushes.
@spad_overolls
@spad_overolls 8 ай бұрын
They act like two legends can't coexist together,,,,,
@gambaru55
@gambaru55 7 ай бұрын
@@spad_overolls and one of that legends shine more than another. the another just become the shadow of the legend.
@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox
@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox 4 ай бұрын
​@@gambaru55scaredy shroom is Luigi confirmed.
@messydesk_animation_studios
@messydesk_animation_studios 22 күн бұрын
HONESTLY. Like seriously if puff shroom is ranked S tier due to the fact that it can solo all the non-gimmick main night levels and scaredy is ranked in D because it isn't as good as puff, then that would mean things like ice shroom, fume shroom, doom shroom, ect would be in D tier as well.
@hattedmoron555
@hattedmoron555 8 ай бұрын
I think the reason why people rank c or d scaredy is because of its cost. It's outclassed by puff by a mile. Low cost? Puff shroom is free, stalls waves, allows you to plant more sunshrooms. Midgame? Puff cleans up pretty well and you'll probably have some fumes. Range? Barely matters. Puff is way more spammable and saves way more sun. Fume has infinite pierce and a 4 tile range is more than enough. A column of scaredys in the back barely matters in the later waves because you'll have so many fumes by then. Scaredy is ranked low the same reason peashooter is ranked low. Redundancy, why use pea. when you can repeat it? Why use pea when you can chill? There's so many options that are better than scaredy so why bother with it?
@lnfra
@lnfra 8 ай бұрын
In summary it is outclassed
@KhajaSodhu
@KhajaSodhu 6 ай бұрын
@@lnfra fume shroom is better than scaredy shroom Fume shroom does the same damage as peashooter just like scaredy shroom however it Is still cheaper Has infinite pierce And Goes through screen door zombies and newspaper zombie's
@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox
@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox 4 ай бұрын
​​@@KhajaSodhuthat's exactly what they said, duh.
@KhajaSodhu
@KhajaSodhu 4 ай бұрын
@@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox I guess so
@Taceria
@Taceria 3 ай бұрын
At least it's better than sea shroom
@ReeperKuruRuke
@ReeperKuruRuke 8 ай бұрын
I really do love using scardy-shroom in no puff-shroom mini-challenges. It is best used when it's planted BEHIND sun-shrooms. You can replace it with much more powerful or gimmicky plants later.
@warnerd8746
@warnerd8746 8 ай бұрын
Wtf, i have never looked at him and think "this thing is useless", it's a good plant when used right, he's just being overshadowed by puffshroom
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Even though puff is the objectively better decision, its an over exaggeration to say that it’s as bad as D tier. If puff shroom gets S tier, Scaredy should at least get A.
@hehehagr
@hehehagr 8 ай бұрын
bro puts the scaredy shrooms in the front of the sun shrooms💀
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Column 1-5 is usually a safe spot for scaredy. You can put them in front or behind, both work.
@user-ok9oo3ff8n
@user-ok9oo3ff8n 2 ай бұрын
The biggest problem with scaredy is that it's a mushroom. Most mushrooms in the game rely on being in the front lines or instants. At this point players are too used to the puff shroom fume shroom playstyle that mushroom does not necessarily meaning short range high damage never comes to mind.
@evelynivy6124
@evelynivy6124 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking this same thing when I started the video, but for speedruns I'm realizing it makes sense. If you have the scaredy-shrooms in the back column, then the spores take longer to reach the zombies. It's a small time loss, but it could start to really add up.
@caoinhnamkhanh2795
@caoinhnamkhanh2795 8 ай бұрын
I dont see scaredy as anything but a peashooter for night levels, i just figured no one rlly dislikes it that much
@Shyguymask
@Shyguymask 8 ай бұрын
The problem with Scaredy-Shroom is that Puff-shroom mostly invalidates it. If I want a cheap attacker with the DPS of a Peashooter... I'll just use Puff-Shroom instead. Scaredy is very solid by itself, but because it's outclassed by Puff-shroom in most situations, it gets a heavy penalty in its ranking, at least it comes to mine. And no, Scaredy is not nearly as good as Puff-shroom honestly. Puff-shroom is completely free which is an enormous advantage, and it also isn't cowardice. 0 Vs. 25 sun cost is actually such a huge difference that it singlehandedly makes Puff-shroom plenty viable during daytime for general stalling, as well as making it possible to beat Nighttime levels without sun producers. "As close to free as it gets" is still extremely far away from being actually free. There is a reason why no one uses Imitater Scaredy-shroom to stall early portions of levels, it would be the case even if Puff-shroom never existed. You WILL see major differences if you use Scaredy-shroom like it's Puff-shroom, from your sun production being significantly slower to running into one of two problems: If Scaredy-shrooms are planted at the front, then they are at huge disadvantage from the fear mechanic. If they are planted at the back, then in Survival mode they steal space that much stronger plants would make better use of, so you shovel them away and that's one or a few hundreds Sun worth of plants gone just like that. The main thing to talk about is not the fear mechanic, it's the fact that being free is a threshold with a huge impact. Even if Puff-shroom literally did not attack at all, it would STILL be B-tier purely because it's free and completely spammable to stall zombies and buy you more time. The gap IS that large.
@The_Cubicness
@The_Cubicness 8 ай бұрын
Well if you want to use scaredy shroom in day , then you need a coffee bean , so is 25 sun + 75 sun so is clearly a peashooter in night , mostly scaredy shroom is used for night
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Scaredy IS nearly as good as puff shroom, because 25 sun is really not that big of a deal in this game. Even if you lose sun for planting a Scaredy shroom, you aren’t in a huge amount of trouble. It’s not like planting one scaredy shroom will make everything INCREDIBLY slow. I feel as though there is an overestimation on how much sun is being spent per level. If you have two rows of scaredy’s that is ONLY 200 sun. Sure with puff it’s free and that is obviously better, but you can also bring both. I don’t think Scaredy is invalidated, because you definitely have seed slots to fit both scaredy and puff shroom into the seed select. I don’t think that scaredy shroom should in the bottom of tier lists/rank lists because it is very usable. As for your argument toward using scaredy shroom like puff shroom, I literally said that if you’re having a hard time with Scaredy, you’re not using it like Scaredy. You CAN replace puff shroom with scaredy and USE IT RIGHT and not see a HUGE difference. 25 sun is not nearly as big of a gap as it’s made out to be in nearly everyone’s ranking of Scaredy. Another thing is that you are only really addressing survival mode in the second point, which I also mentioned in the video, Scaredy is not good in those. Puff shroom excels in Survivals, I made that clear. Scaredy isn’t good there, but for where it is good, it can definitely do better than how it is portrayed.
@Shyguymask
@Shyguymask 8 ай бұрын
​@@Sasquash19 The thing is that you *spam* Puff-shroom and Scaredy-shroom. When you repetitively spend 25 Sun many times, it quickly adds up, not to mention slowing down your snowball in Sun production. Actually, with Imitater, you won't even be able to spam Scaredy-shrooms without running out of Sun. "Only" 200 sun is really not small in Night levels. "Replace puff-shroom with Scaredy-shroom" is pretty specific wording which makes it look like you're suggesting to use Scaredy-shroom for similar reasons & purposes as Puff-shroom, even though using Scaredy-shroom "right" really means not using Scaredy-shroom in the ways that pushes Puff-Shroom into being one of the best plants in the game. Using Scaredy-shroom "right" is about using it for much less significant & standout use cases. It simply doesn't have the strengths and feats to be remotely comparable to Puff-shroom.
@emmabaino6646
@emmabaino6646 8 ай бұрын
​@@ShyguymaskI think you're right
@MusicGamer1235
@MusicGamer1235 8 ай бұрын
Play the game however you'd like if it's fun lol ( just my opinion )
@yayamonday2770
@yayamonday2770 8 ай бұрын
2:26 don't forget scaredy is also at a 75% discount at night
@660nj
@660nj 8 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen people use Scaredy-shroom like Puff-shroom? When you unlock Scaredy-shroom, literally the first thing you're told is that it's a "long-range shooter." Also, I think the reason Scaredy is ranked so low is for two reasons: First, it suffers from where it's unlocked and when it's usable effectively. Overall, in Adventure 1, there are only 11 levels total where you can actually use Scaredy as it's intended to be used: 2-7 through 2-9 and the eight levels in Fog where you can pick your plants. Most of these levels really screw over Scaredy due to the zombies in them; basically every special in Fog, except for Jack-in-the-Box, can easily mess up Scaredy. Scaredy's own introductory level, 2-7, has Football and Screen Door, both of which are pretty big counters. PvZ1 generally did a good job with first impressions for plants but it didn't do any favors for Scaredy-shroom. Second, because of how niche and pointless it is outside of Night levels. As you said, Night levels where you can pick your plants basically don't exist outside of Adventure and Survival. When you try using Scaredy during day, as you mentioned, it's the same cost as Peashooter, the tutorial plant that gets outclassed almost instantly. Peashooter also has synergy with Torchwood and doesn't hide when a zombie gets too close. Out of all of the mushrooms, except for maybe Sun-shroom, Scaredy is the only one with no real reason to be used during the daytime levels unless you're intentionally impairing yourself. This was a fun video to watch. Good stuff
@KhajaSodhu
@KhajaSodhu 6 ай бұрын
You know what, I agree on what you said about scaredy shroom Sun bean sucks though
@sabuguinhoC
@sabuguinhoC 3 ай бұрын
I always see people using scared shroom as a puff shroom
@CLTurtle
@CLTurtle 4 ай бұрын
I also think the time you obtain Scaredy Shroom has also influenced players about the plant's quality. After a few levels of relying on Puff Shroom as a player's primary attacker, when Scaredy Shroom is introduced, it just felt like another Puff Shroom, especially considering it's similar color pallet and the projectile looking the exact same. It also doesn't help that the sun cost for Puff Shroom is 0. Although the 25 sun cost for Scaredy is very little, you can't beat the sun cost of free. Loved your analysis video, Sasquash29, keep up the good work! 👍
@staticsphere_
@staticsphere_ 8 ай бұрын
As much as I love scaredy’s design, there are a lot of issues that I see bogging down this plant. First, puffshroom completely outclasses him in early game as damage output spam. Using scaredy alone without him is unreliable for early game sustainability, so you’ll most likely be bringing both. Seed slots are incredibly valuable, so using one on scaredy and puff is a bit wasteful, having two plants with similar early game roles. Secondly, his damage output per tile is quite low compared to something like fumeshroom, which is unlocked several nights before scaredy. This really hurts scaredy, as fumeshroom is capable of dealing with infinite basics at a low cost already, which doesn’t help scaredys low damage output. Puffshroom isn’t meant to be your entire army, it can’t handle everything, but it’s early game is so incredibly useful and spamable that you can get as much sun as you’ll ever need before proper threats show up. The same can’t be said for scaredy, as he’s much less temporary and is an active sun investment. You can’t plant him at the front without him being scared, and generally planting sun producers on column 3/4 for night is pretty good for night levels to leave expensive plants at the back. If you plant scaredy in the back, it leaves 2 columns for him where you’re going to eventually replace him with snow pea or something much more effective at larger hordes. The only place I’ve seen scaredys cheapness be actively useful is in Vs mode, and even then it’s still quite easy to exploit his weaknesses.
@LanaIsUnderrated
@LanaIsUnderrated 8 ай бұрын
At night time its basically a 25 costing pea shooter, with an extremly minor down side Just plant them in the back like you do with most attackers
@SkyanUltra
@SkyanUltra 8 ай бұрын
in terms of casual play, it's definitely D-tier. just because it functions SIMILARLY to puff shroom does NOT make it a good plant. spending sun on a plant that's only difference from puff being a longer range and the issue of the scared mechanic is really not worth it, especially in the early levels during night when you don't have the slots to spare. a slot like that could definitely be saved for something far more effective during night, like one of the few instas you can get during the nighttime levels, some extra sun-producers to spam during mid-game, or better yet... puff shroom. which you're going to be bringing anyways, if you know what you're doing. do you see the pattern here? puff shroom just does what scardey shroom does, but better. if puff shroom DIDN'T exist, and you couldn't use it? then scardey shroom would absolutely be a high B-tier, hell, even A-tier plant. but puff shroom simply snuffs out scardey shroom since it's far more effective during night. night time IS when sun production is at it's lowest, so you need to be playing cost-effectively to make sure you can afford what you're bringing in early on. and a free plant that suffers just low enough range to kill a basic zombie, but is incredibly spammable? that's an incredible deal! but once you have one spammable plant, you don't really have a need for another one. sure, you CAN bring the 25 sun, long range, spammable night peashooter... but what's the point? you're already spamming one plant as is, so why bring another when you could just save the extra sun for fume-shrooms? it's not worth it, in the end.
@The_J2Holic
@The_J2Holic 8 ай бұрын
glad to finally see Scaredy getting love, really underrated plant and couldn't put it better myself hope this video blows up more to get this channel more love/express to people why Scaredy is so underrated
@kiseki8351
@kiseki8351 8 ай бұрын
The only take away I got from this video is that scaredy shroom is actually really cute
@bingobo2551
@bingobo2551 8 ай бұрын
I consider him B tier at best for versus mode if your not too experienced. You get a lot of value for a 50 sun straight shooter in versus mode of your inexperienced in the early game. He can also work as a support plant to a more better plant like repeater or cabbage plug in versus mode. His biggest weakness from what I’m aware is digger, bungee, pogo & dancer zombie.
@Reevro
@Reevro 8 ай бұрын
a good strategy is to leave rows for scaredy shrooms in the complete back of the lawn where a casual would place sun producers
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Good strat, be careful in Fog of diggers tho.
@JustAnotherCommenter
@JustAnotherCommenter 8 ай бұрын
I honestly think this plant is C tier, as high as it can get, the same tier as peashooter, just ranked lower than it (because it's only useful in night levels). Combined with coffee bean, its price is exactly peashooter's, except taking another seed slot. Meanwhile fume shroom is a short-ranged plant but it has an additional usage, infinite pierce, making it at least B tier. Puff-shroom is easily at least A tier if you're underrating it and S tier if you're using it correctly. The fact that scaredy does not have the same advantage that fume or puff provides, only really being a slightly-weaker peashooter, proves that it is at most C tier.
@KhajaSodhu
@KhajaSodhu 6 ай бұрын
Fume shroom also easily deals with screen doors while still being cheaper. I would say maybe A tier if not B+ tier
@jonathansdreamland1207
@jonathansdreamland1207 8 ай бұрын
Poor guy he already has a phobia of zombies and is forced to be near them and is hated by the community
@saparapatepete
@saparapatepete 3 ай бұрын
people look down on him because of his fear, but it takes courage to fight despite it.
@fortnitesexman
@fortnitesexman 8 ай бұрын
i just think the main problem is that saving sun up early on isn't at all important when other plants already make it so mind-numbingly easy potato mine for the same cost will kill a single zombie, although it's still better at it because it doesn't trigger waves early through damage puff shroom of course completely eclipses it in every way that matters etc so not bad, just a plant you'd never use unless you're purposefully shooting yourself in the foot
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, but people would argue that puff is still good in this scenario because it’s free. During night levels it is a bit harder to get up sun, but if you use both puff and scaredy, you can easily shred these levels.
@Nutellagott
@Nutellagott 8 ай бұрын
​@@Sasquash19scaredy is kinda reliant on puff shroom, which means you gotta bring puff shroom anyways. At that point you can just go straight to fume shrooms.
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
@@Nutellagott they don’t have to be necessarily. There are ways to get up scaredy without puff shroom. No one considers them though because puff shroom is free. If you were doing a puffless challenge though then it would be a decent strategy.
@szonig_pl3024
@szonig_pl3024 8 ай бұрын
Screw the meta, chuck some *butter*
@KPoWasTaken
@KPoWasTaken 8 ай бұрын
It's too outclassed and the thing with tier lists is you aren't ranking by raw power and raw usability. You're ranking it compared to other plants in the game that work in similar fashionl So attacking plants are compared to other attackers, defensive plants are compared to other defensive plants and how useful defense actually is. Sun producers are rarely ranked in the first place so ignoring those. When you have a fast recharge 25 sun cost plant and a fast recharge completely free plant with the same amount of damage then you are gonna go for the completely free plant. Puff-shroom outclasses scaredy so hard it's unreal for early-game. And because Puff-shroom is free and makes the early game an absolute joke, by mid-game you've gotten more than enough sun for other plants such as Fume-shroom which has infinite pierce, a far stronger ability than any range Scaredy-shroom. Even then Puff-shroom plus Fume-shroom still tends to leave you with so much leftover sun just because of how busted puff-shroom is for racking up sun. What this means is you'll never use Scaredy-shroom because Puff-shroom is straight up a better option for early-game. And because you have Puff-shroom, you'll have sun at mid-game for plants much better than Scaredy-shroom and this means Scaredy-shroom is never gonna be a pick. It's not that Scaredy-shroom itself is bad, it's that everything around it is stronger and thus it's never a good pick. As for Cactus, Split-pea and Sea-shroom, those plants are just straight up awful but that doesn't even matter anyway as that doesn't change the fact Puff-shroom + Fume-shroom still severely outclasses Scaredy-shroom as picks. Whilst it's true Scaredy-shroom being used efficiently makes New Game Plus a breeze, so does Puff-shroom and Fume-shroom but they make it even easier than Scaredy-shroom. Scaredy-shroom is just too outclassed by those two plants in particular that it has no casual play situations where it's strong in comparison to other plants. It's just the way rankings work that causes Scaredy-shroom to be placed so low. Tier lists aren't ranked on raw power alone, they're ranked in comparison to other plants around it that are similar in the way they work as well as the time they're unlocked. When you unlock Scaredy-shroom, you already have 2 better options; Puff-shroom + Fume-shroom. They're similar in the sense they are night plants, they have fast recharge, and they are attackers. Puff-shrooms free sun-cost makes it an exceptional plant and the limited range doesn't hinder it much if at all. Scaredy-shroom may be extremely cheap but it isn't free and the advantage of long-range isn't that much of an advantage for a whole 25 cost vs completely free. As for Fume-shroom whilst it may cost 75 sun, the infinite pierce really is a strong ability. Whilst it's true 75 sun cost is a decent bit for night/fog, the game expects you to always bring Puff-shroom in night and fog. Puff-shroom carries early-game so you can build up lots of sun, then you can use fume-shroom mid-game and late-game. Trying to run Scaredy-shroom solo is a bad idea but Puff-shroom doesn't need the extra support early-game and the advantages of cheap cost long-range isn't useful mid-game when compared to the advantages of infinite pierce so running it with Puff-shroom isn't good compared to running Fume-shroom with Puff-shroom. I'm not mentioning Scaredy-shroom's scare mechanic as that doesn't really do anything. What I'm trying to get at here is tier lists aren't ranked based on raw power alone and thus Scaredy-shroom is ranked so low.
@Possessed_Gamer
@Possessed_Gamer 8 ай бұрын
I love my baby boi Scaredy Shroom
@kbowman772
@kbowman772 8 ай бұрын
The difference between Scaredy and Puff is kinda like the difference between Split Pea or Cactus and Peashooter, and both of those plants are also bottom 10. Sure, there are little differences but the plants have the same job and the 25 extra sun cost makes it outclassed hard. Scaredy is an early game attacker while you build up sun like Puff, but with Scaredy invalidated by Puff, it doesn't really have another job. It doesn't have the chops to be a main attacker, especially since Puff does that job better too Now, Scaredy isn't as bad as Cactus or Split Pea, obviously, but my point is that there's no reason to put it in the deck.
@jthemad2616
@jthemad2616 8 ай бұрын
The problem with Scaredy-shroom... Or RATHER, what makes puff-shroom so strong is that you don't need sun (duh), you can place like 4 puffs in the time a Sun plant generates a sun. Completely invalidating the part where you are supposed to use Scaredy, plant which is essentally long-range puff, which is not very strong. By the time you can place Scaredy, you can very well place something better (like Fume) instead.
@PanPan-PanPan
@PanPan-PanPan 8 ай бұрын
Im glad pvz is revived once again, a legendary game never dies!
@iddkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@iddkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk 8 ай бұрын
idk after i started playing and liking pvz again it revived
@PanPan-PanPan
@PanPan-PanPan 8 ай бұрын
@@iddkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Bro! You're in the same scenario as me, is it a coincidence or not???
@iddkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@iddkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk 8 ай бұрын
@@PanPan-PanPan idk
@Lobster_With_A_Gun
@Lobster_With_A_Gun 8 ай бұрын
Oi jus wanna say your videos are great thanks for makin them
@Jesterzombiepvz2
@Jesterzombiepvz2 7 ай бұрын
I love scaredy-shroom
@Altshooter69
@Altshooter69 6 ай бұрын
Everything you said in this video is so true, and I agree with every detail. It’s like Puff-Shroom, But with long range and cost 25 sun. Now I do agree that it is annoying when he hides when a zombie gets near, but that doesn’t become a big deal if you um, *ahem*, Place them behind. It makes no sense why people hate it, it’s an S-Tier Plant. It is a 150 sun cost from a repeater with two Scardy-Shrooms. Poor Guy, look how cute he is, He’s amazing ❤
@isuckatgaming1873
@isuckatgaming1873 8 ай бұрын
Well, I don't think scaredy-shroom should be nearly high ranked as puff shroom. If it could be planted during day without needed coffee then it would easily top the list, but since it doesn't, it gets no utility during the daytime and minigames. Puff shroom maintains utility by being 0 cost, giving free stall whereas scaredy costing 25 sun just to stall is a gamestop trade when you could be getting instants like potato mine and squash, or just placing a walnut. Certainly, scaredy should be ranked higher, especially if people were to realize that it is smarter to place your attackers behind your sun producers (better to lose a cheap sun producer who can't fight than your ownly means of dealing damage in a lane), however I wouldn't see puff and scaredy being in the same rank as is. I would argue b tier is the best placement for scaredy, as it is very helpful during night and fog levels. Especially when preparing you defense at the start - but the difference is that puff shroom borderline solos all of night and fog even without sun, simply by being free and spamable. Scaredy could accomplish similar with sun, sure, but the fact of the matter is that the puff shroom is a guaranteed win regardless of sun. With this, I think they shouldn't share a tier, perhaps being only 1 tier apart - though Certainly neither should be close to d or f tier.
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
To be honest though, you hardly ever need puff shroom for day levels. Even as stall. I think puff is S tier, and scaredy as A. I don’t necessarily think that Scaredy should be ranked next to puff, but I do think the gap should be as big as it is.
@toxic_shr00m
@toxic_shr00m 4 ай бұрын
I love using Scaredy-Shroom. I use it throughout pretty much every night and fog level.
@evankitch269
@evankitch269 7 ай бұрын
Please make more of these video essay like videos more often
@shinhikaru
@shinhikaru 2 ай бұрын
I agree, along with Starfruit he is really underrated. For 25 sun you get a cheap peashooter for night and fog stages. His biggest drawback is because Fume Shroom outclassed him since he got AoE. Scaredy Shroom is also a good plant for staling Gargs in Endless stages, as there are only 4 plants good for this, the other 3 are Puff-shroom, Sun-shroom, and Flower Pot (Imitater Puff-shroom doesn't count because you usually bring Imitation Ice-shroom or Doom-shroom in the first place in Endless).
@Ajdin_1103
@Ajdin_1103 8 ай бұрын
congrats on 1K subs
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@littlemacisunderrated412
@littlemacisunderrated412 8 ай бұрын
I get you scardey shroom, I get you
@spad_overolls
@spad_overolls 8 ай бұрын
Glad to see someone finally say this. Scaredyshroom is a 25 sun peashooter with an easily counterable downside (especially if you do the meta strat of putting sun producers in the middle/front of the field instead of the back), and in the day it can be used as a second/third puffshroom for stall. Its basically just a slightly worse backline puff, and puff is one of the best plants in the game, so... Also to add to the topic: Scaredyshroom is also not that bad in PVZ2 either. It's not that strong on it's own, yes, but it's a pretty good Plant Food sink - due to it's strong PF effect, you can use one PF as a total field wipe, especially if you use Tile Turnip. It's not the strongest plant out there, especially considering the dependency on PF to get the most out of it, but its still pretty good
@birdumgamersqn5729
@birdumgamersqn5729 8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU 😭😭😭😭😭
@maks-jo4dm
@maks-jo4dm 8 ай бұрын
I DEFENENTLY CAN,T AGREE MORE
@walugusgrudenburg3068
@walugusgrudenburg3068 4 ай бұрын
Scaredy Shroom is a really good plant that just unfortunately directly contests the role of one of the three absolutely broken plants in the game, while being unlocked later than it.
@phillipbutler7591
@phillipbutler7591 8 ай бұрын
In day he takes long to set up, costs the same as a peashooter but can’t attack when zombies get near. In night, I’ll use puff and fume shroom. Occasionally on only night or fog levels (without digger) I will plant a row of him at the very back behind my sun shrooms.
@saparapatepete
@saparapatepete 3 ай бұрын
I am surprised so many people didn't think on "put it in the back row so it doesn't get scared". Wish coffee bean cost 50 instead of 75 so it could give more shrooms use during the day.
@DaBoxGuy
@DaBoxGuy 8 ай бұрын
I agree, i would use him on every night level since i would unlock him, he is great for fog levels
@petarsaric7308
@petarsaric7308 7 ай бұрын
I agree with you.
@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her
@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her 3 ай бұрын
I always leave the back row empty, & put my sun-shrooms in the 2nd rows onward. After establishing front-row puffers for early waves, I start spending on Scaredies, way in that open back row. So they never get scared, & supply a constant flow of map-wide projectiles. They're my homies. :3
@galladegamerletsplays
@galladegamerletsplays Ай бұрын
seeing as scaredy shroom is my favorite plant I highly respect this video
@bobasekai
@bobasekai 2 ай бұрын
I've used sleeping scaredy shroom for stalling zombies in the early first zombotany before. It works well, since puffshrooms are too small to get hit by the peashooter zombies
@repacharge431
@repacharge431 8 ай бұрын
Hey man your editing is on another level, how are you good at this??? Please teach me your ways XD
@EnderSam_
@EnderSam_ 8 ай бұрын
Scaredy shroom doesn't get the short end of the stick it *is* the stick Good video with some solid points, subscribed
@atwig5872
@atwig5872 8 ай бұрын
scaredy is my favorite plant in the franchise
@averageyoutuber5393
@averageyoutuber5393 8 ай бұрын
Me who used scaredy on zombotany instead of walls for an achievement:
@NN89755
@NN89755 8 ай бұрын
You're so goddamn underrated
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@pizzatowerfan789
@pizzatowerfan789 12 күн бұрын
i used it over fume shroom in fog new game plus and its pretty good all tho for casual playthroughs in fog u should prioritise getting your 1st cattail
@laurahoekstra4968
@laurahoekstra4968 6 ай бұрын
i agree with everything you said in this video. scardey shroom is very underrated and deserves more respect. i really appreciate that we have a close opinion that scardey shroom deserves better. also, whoever believes that scardey is a really good plant are actually using them correctly. i and other people believe that scardey shroom is a truly good plant.
@MainChannel9521
@MainChannel9521 8 ай бұрын
I like these types of videos, there isn’t much of them online.
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
I'll make some more
@Juntadogaming1245
@Juntadogaming1245 8 ай бұрын
They should at least buff his defense when hiding like half of walnuts health
@epicsandvich014
@epicsandvich014 3 ай бұрын
I never thought it was bad, I can count on one hand how many times I had the scare mechanic trigger during all of my combined playthroughs
@clicktuck
@clicktuck 5 ай бұрын
Its also a strong attacker in the console/DS exclusive vs mode where coffee bean only costs 25 sun and puff + coffee is already an automatic pick (unless you like losing)
@pedroferreira4323
@pedroferreira4323 2 ай бұрын
Even when i was a kid i understood that you are supposed to put him as far behind as you can
@shroomyboiakabigboydru10ex85
@shroomyboiakabigboydru10ex85 8 ай бұрын
I approve of this
@UnhingedStickFigure
@UnhingedStickFigure 8 ай бұрын
Scarey deserves better by the way I forgot about their existence
@SamLoser2
@SamLoser2 3 ай бұрын
I built my first-time and all subsequent night playthroughs on scaredy shroom. Never knew people though it was bad.
@HotBaraDad666
@HotBaraDad666 Ай бұрын
Actually, I used Scaredy a ton as a cheap spammable but weak wall for zombotany levels. That way I could cover my actual plants that I was worried about like sun producers or attacking plants, while trying to setup wallnuts, tallnuts and/or pumpkins. And I HAD to use Scaredy because puffshroom is just too smol.
@wavelengthrenegadereef9143
@wavelengthrenegadereef9143 3 ай бұрын
I was always a huge fan of Scaredy. I always just treated it as "sniper Puff-shroom" basically, and that always worked for me. I don't think I've ever used a pea-based plant in a night level, at least not until Torchwood gets involved.
@sticksbender4057
@sticksbender4057 3 ай бұрын
You could also perhaps shove Scaredy behind your sun plants too, if anyone's still having trouble keeping them from running into the scare mechanic.
@CoralReaper707
@CoralReaper707 8 ай бұрын
I love scaredy shroom
@AlvinCwk
@AlvinCwk 4 ай бұрын
Just start by planting your sunshrooms one column forward and later plant scaredy shrooms at the very back column. There you go.
@personhiii
@personhiii 8 ай бұрын
Never used scaredy due to the little mushroom, I’ll say it’s still good just outclassed compared to the other non instant damaging plants in night
@Kano_Productions
@Kano_Productions 8 ай бұрын
He got his best moments in ge1 and gw2
@Sheeptastical1935
@Sheeptastical1935 3 ай бұрын
its a key part of night and fog, but always put it at the back of your defense behind your short range puffshrooms or fumeshrooms
@exi_m7074
@exi_m7074 8 ай бұрын
I mean, it’s basically a 25 cost night peashooter. It’s pretty good.
@tomiokagiyu2664
@tomiokagiyu2664 8 ай бұрын
Just plant scaredy shroom behind your sun shrooms , they basically become a 25 sun peashooter
@pluto5988
@pluto5988 3 ай бұрын
Scaredy Shroom is really good for being a 25 cost peashooter.
@a_person5668
@a_person5668 4 ай бұрын
Scaredy is definitely better than people make it out to be, but you don’t fully get why ppl say it’s worse than Puff, bc it has numerous things that make it far worse. Stackiblity wise, for instance. Puff goes far right, where nothing else goes, and can just be spammed to easily kill literally everything on it’s own. Scaredy takes up valuable room on the far left to work well, pushing everything in your defense further right and making them more vunrealble, while puff is basically just extra free damage that can kill most things. Puff is also free instead of 25 sun, a VERY minor difference, but it can help in making if useful for stalling, as although it doesn’t have much hp, it can be instrumental to saving a valuable plant, without any downside to you, and while chipping away at the zombie itself. Early into a night level as well, it’s 0 cost lets you save every sun you need to get tons if sunflowers up earlier, while scaredy takes half a sunflower in cost to get down and can slow down sunflowers. Puff’s 0 sun cost even makes it useful for slowing down zombies outside of night and fog! The most important difference is, of course, the whole issue of placement and where it goes. Puff is free extra damage that can solo basically every night level that takes spaces so far right that ordinarily wouldn’t get uses for casual play, while Scaredy uses the valuable far left slots and pushes your whole defense closer to zombies, and if you want to stack up like 3 to do big damage like you easily can with puff to quickly and powerfully kill things, that’s pushing the plants even closer into zombie territory while taking even more valuable space. This is especially bad for night levels if you don’t also combo it with gravebuster, as graves limit the available spaces in a lane even more and can fuck over scaredy shroom strats hard. Scaredy is good, yes. But it’s not at ALL close to puff in casual play.
@gofer7
@gofer7 8 ай бұрын
Scaredy shroom is my second favorite mushroom in whole series (1st place is puffshroom) and i don't know why people hate him so much
@filipemarinho123
@filipemarinho123 8 ай бұрын
pretty cool vid
@macar0n.
@macar0n. 4 ай бұрын
I love it tbh
@perryli9229
@perryli9229 8 ай бұрын
What future videos do you plan on making?
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Probably more plant analyses. I love seeing the people in the comments talk about where they think plants should be, and I love playing devil’s advocate for these plants. Aside from that, I’d love to make more content about music in video games.
@Crow-24
@Crow-24 8 ай бұрын
Finnaly someone who knows that scaredy-schroom is good, i mean it's just a peashooter that costs 25 sun
@_RedRightHand_
@_RedRightHand_ 2 ай бұрын
Scaredy Shroom is simply outclassed. That's why it's so low. Tier lists are based on how good plants are compared to other plants, which makes plants that are outclassed automatically on the low tiers. For example, Peashooter will always be an F tier plant simply because Repeater outclasses it. In no scenario will the former be used over the latter, and the same is true for Scaredy Shroom. There's a difference between something like Wallnut and Tallnut, because the latter has a gimmick over the former, with it having the advantage of sun cost, or even being used alongside the former. Something like Spikerock and Spikeweed, while similar, are different plants due to sun cost and the seed slots they take up. However, Scaredy Shroom has no gimmick over Puff Shroom. While it has board range, Puff Shroom can just as easily be spammed throughout the board for the same effect, while Scaredy Shroom requires both 25 sun and can't be spammed everywhere. Puff Shroom will always be chosen over Scaredy Shroom, and Scaredy Shroom thus _has_ to be placed in a low tier to portray that it will never be used. A similar story appears for Blover outclassing both Cactus and Plantern.
@stagelights_
@stagelights_ Ай бұрын
scaredy shroom is even better if you plant your sun producers in columns 3 or 4 instead of in the back, as it means they almost never have their drawback of hiding. planting your sun producers ahead of your attackers is also just generally good practice anyway
@coleminer8847
@coleminer8847 8 ай бұрын
How bad are people to not realize putting scardey in the front line might not be a good idea
@KhajaSodhu
@KhajaSodhu 7 ай бұрын
That's like using peanut BUT WORSE!
@KhajaSodhu
@KhajaSodhu 7 ай бұрын
Now that I think about it it makes sense THIS IS ONE OF THE 1 god damn quintillion REASONS WHY OUR IQ POINTS IS 22 LOWER
@Fera-gr5mm
@Fera-gr5mm 8 ай бұрын
I guess people who use scaredy shroom as extra puff shroom are the ones planting sun producers at the back...
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Scaredy shroom works from column 1-5. Also, most of the footage is speedrunning footage, the strats there are much different from the strats casually, or even competitively.
@sakabits_132
@sakabits_132 3 ай бұрын
I have an idea on how to improve Scaredy. The hiding mechanic is underutilized. The cap looks like Gatling Pea's helmet, so I think Scaredy should have 2-3 times as much health as its base health when hiding. It makes sense since Scaredy hides when zombies are near it. It's self-defense. And it should make more sense that it can evolve having a harder cap.
@SC3N3_WH0R3
@SC3N3_WH0R3 3 ай бұрын
He’s my favorite
@M0ts_
@M0ts_ 8 ай бұрын
started this video with hating scaredy, ended with loving it!
@ZackTheTurtle
@ZackTheTurtle 7 ай бұрын
scaredy shroom is a cheap peashooter and it's super useful
@bluemike1215
@bluemike1215 3 ай бұрын
This is like the pummel of the pvz universe
@5on7YT
@5on7YT 3 ай бұрын
I've always liked scaredy shroom. It's literally a peashooter that costs 25 sun. Just stick it in the back in night levels, and you're good to go
@thehansboi
@thehansboi 8 ай бұрын
I needed scaredy shroom in pvz expansion
@snivydream
@snivydream 8 ай бұрын
Honnestly it kinda deserves better, i think like high c to mid b, the proble with it beeing higher tho is that puff shroom has uses in endless and basically anywhere if you have space because of stall while scaredy is limited to night and fog in adventure.that beeing said it is imo as strong in term of damaging and severly underated.
@snivydream
@snivydream 8 ай бұрын
Also good job on the video
@Sasquash19
@Sasquash19 8 ай бұрын
Puff has use in endless, but I’m gonna be blunt. Usually by the time you’re using puff for stalling, you already have plenty of defense down, and thousands of sun, with sun production to compensate as well. You could easily use any 25 sun, fast recharge plant in addition to puff shroom. Since I like taking imitater doom shroom, I’ll usually take puff/scaredy or puff/flower pot for stalling. I’m glad you enjoyed the video :)
@snivydream
@snivydream 8 ай бұрын
@@Sasquash19 i guess
@lovelivelex
@lovelivelex 21 күн бұрын
scaredy shroom helped me a lot in brutal mode
@linoisalion3086
@linoisalion3086 8 ай бұрын
I always like scaredy shroom
@pranavkarmarkar
@pranavkarmarkar 8 ай бұрын
i thought this would be about the pvz2 scaredy lmao
@Quantouchgrass
@Quantouchgrass 8 ай бұрын
tbh, i rank scary-shroom in d-tier in pvz expansion mod cuz it got nerfed, at first idc why it got nerfed until i saw ur vid lol
@danshive4017
@danshive4017 2 ай бұрын
“We put our mage in the front and it went poorly for some reason.”
@EmileAnimation
@EmileAnimation 3 ай бұрын
Scaredy is a good plant if you place it all the way in the back (its atleast B or A teir, not S teir)
@DrDrao
@DrDrao 2 ай бұрын
Problem I always found is that puff and fume just handle everything, and they're both better than scardy. It's like chomper in that sense. Although it has a use case, in casual play, that use case is too niche, and other plants just handle the game.
@DrDrao
@DrDrao 2 ай бұрын
If fume shroom didn't exist, I think a lot of people would rate it better.
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