Why is Conan's Battle Pass Being DELETED?

[@Eradicati0nn]

EDIT: Seeing as it's coming up a lot, this isn't related to Dune, and the two dev teams don't siphon resources. This wasn't included in the video as it came out after it had been uploaded Source: imgur.com/ltbGL35 On Sunday I've got a full guide on the Down But Not Out mechanic coming at 9:30pm BST, make sure you don't miss it! Join our Discord!: discord.gg/myexFkZ ALL my lore videos: kzbin.info/aero/PLb1BvY8uSBcc-H4sq5AqnBK4oRNkCcOOk Patreon: www.patreon.com/eradicati0n Get my first book FREE!: www.patreon.com/posts/89695302 Twitter: twitter.com/eradicati0nn

[@Eradicati0nn]

@@atenubi Content creators didn't receive the Battle Pass for free in AoS: Chapter 1, so I paid $10 for it.

[@darkhunter567]

While the the two dev teams don't share resources, the larger company does. With Dune coming out soon, I expect them to put more resources into that.

[@Eradicati0nn]

@@darkhunter567 "Share" is probably the somewhat incorrect term used, I've amended it to "siphoned" as in the screenshot. I don't doubt Dune overall has more resources than Conan, but it's clear from what the devs have said that none will be taken anyway from Conan fortunately

[@darkhunter567]

@@Eradicati0nn Unless they outright and say "Dune has no affected out budget" I'm taking it with alot of salt.

[@darkhunter567]

@@atenubi sabotaged ?

[@panzer00]

The old dlcs were much more consumer friendly. They were actually worth the price and I can buy them whenever I want to. I dont have to wait for a store cycle or grind out a battlepass in the alloted time. Buying a battlepass that gives your currency back is a no brainer, if you play the game enough but I didn't play Conan enough to justify buying the battlepass because I wouldn't have finished them. I will not be compelled to play a game on someone else's time because I bought a battlepass.

[@trolltalwar]

The pass is going away. Why are you still complaining?

[@panzer00]

@@trolltalwar I'm stating my thoughts on the subject - battlepasses in general. WhY aRe YoU sTiLl CoMplAiNiNg¿

[@trolltalwar]

@@panzer00 cope

[@NviGWarren]

I agree!!❤

[@xyAKMxy]

Exactly my point, the battlepass is a soft way of forcing you to play within a certain timeframe. Same goes for the bazaar, you buy the thing while it's on a timer otherwise you'll have to wait for it to cycle through again.

[@nightowl_759]

The largest issue I've had with the battle pass and bazaar is having access to an item or thing acquired. when I'm offline or my net goes down, I lose access to these content items. This is unlike DLC packs which I can access regardless. So, for me the battle pass and bazaar have little to no value to me.

[@Eradicati0nn]

Yeah I'm not a fan of the Bazaar/BP being online-only access. I would imagine it's to verify you actually have those items so you can't hack them in or something like that, but I would like the team to work on a method to verify purchases even when offline, it would just make life a whole lot easier

[@MrJustinArt]

Wait, is that why half the rewards like emotes and crom coins I unlocked never shows up, even when claimed? That explains a lot, if so **Edit:** Never mind, turns out you have to pay for the battle pass to actually unlock all of it

[@nightowl_759]

@@MrJustinArt yes you must put money down for the battle pass to claim most of the rewards. However my post also includes the bazaar items as well. Anything bought thru the bazaar is online only items. If you are offline you loose access until you reconnect to their servers.

[@lukatron123knifer9]

I loved the old Dlc . Even if ur offline u got ur stuff . Building, weapons and armor even the petskins . The bazaar is too expensive evan i got almost ewerything because it means i have more different gameplays .

[@scejntjynahl]

Before they even implemented the Bazzar and BP they still struggled to churn out content and fixes. They were better off doing it as DLC as they did in the past. The resources are still in question, who is to say they have not lost some staff to Dune? I highly doubt they will reintroduce the old battle pass. Considering how War Torn Rhino was only released on PC and never on console, they tend to just drop the ball, get up, go forward and whatever was left behind... stays behind.

[@Eradicati0nn]

The DLC model was unsustainable for faster development, probably at least part of the reason why they were so slow to develop new content in the past. The resources aren't in question tho, the team has confirmed they're not sharing resources with Dune: imgur.com/ltbGL35 IMO, the team went from ploddingly slow to spriinting with their legs slipping, far too fast of a jump to be sustainable. 6 months is probably closer to the sweet spot of being able to develop stuff that isn't riddled with bugs and can be realized fully without requiring multiple updates to achieve one mechanic

[@filidhdeklend893]

@@Eradicati0nn if that's the case then why are they shifting gears and making seasons 6 months long? The whole "it was unsustainable" was just PR corporate word salad to justify a change we were told point blank would NEVER be implemented into the game by Joel Bylos himself during nearly every Live Stream they did until the Tencent buyout. I'm sorry but that dog no longer hunts after they decided to drop the battle pass and double the time between development releases.

[@Eradicati0nn]

​@@filidhdeklend893 The update cycle is still roughly 3 months, the mid-season updates will most probably hit the mid-point between major updates, it just makes sense for them to land roughly at that mark. It's hard to tell yet exactly how much content the mid-seasons will have on average, but the plan was already to have two larger chapters and two smaller ones, so essentially the same thing Also, it doesn't become cheaper to make content just because it takes longer. If they're telling the truth and being honest about where the resources will be going and how the time is used, we'll receive larger and hopefully better tested content updates every 6 months, but artists, devs etc still need to be paid in that time for the same amount as they would in two chapters. As it is, without evidence of layoffs or a reduced amount of working time at Funcom offices, the cost to produce updates remains the same

[@YepImThatGuy66]

Conan had problems before the BP and things didn't get fixed. Only reason they dropped the BP was to... put those things in the bazar. If they were to drop the prices on BP (Not getting my hopes at all..) then it would take some of the sting out of it.

[@samuelsun3560]

I prefer DLCs over Battlepasses especially on a game that you can just play alone -_- yea its fun playing with other people... but the fun thing about playing a solo player-based server is ...well user-made configurations

[@IsThatDrak]

what people dont realize is not everyone plays conan all the time, with no new content in however long its nice to step away for 6-8 months and not miss a crap ton of cool content. i would rather come back for a decent update or expansion play some new content.

[@Eradicati0nn]

There will still be the mid-season updates with events and stuff, but at some point the more dedicated players will likely have completed most of the older events and probably have stockpiles of currency for the new rewards With every game fighting for play time from their customers, I'd much rather Conan have content with longevity that isn't tied to events of a battle pass, I think that would be a far healthier way to get people to want to play the game

[@BIONICforge_Studios]

To weigh in from where I'm from: I play more than just Conan. I have a day job and college. While I try to play more than just one game for variety and different challenges, a pass makes me feel obligated to play, especially because part of the foundation is FOMO. One game with less of a lengthy progression system of temporarily available items in a game I already paid for? Please and thank you.

[@SicariiDTenebris]

I just hope this shakes things up and they lower prices. I miss playing Conan but I've found other games to use for creativity. And the game is aging. 7 years now.

[@phillyphlip1925]

Same. Haven't touched it myself since Soul Mask released. First played Conan 6yrs ago then recently got it on sale for pc... didn't take long to remember why I stopped playing it if I'm honest 😅

[@SicariiDTenebris]

@@phillyphlip1925 Exactly, rather play SoulMask which has flaws but at least there's hope they will fix things vs Conan where we already know what the Dev is like and odds it gets better are low. Enshrouded was also really good.

[@shawnstroud2681]

I have been playing Funcom games since 2006 with Age of Conan. From what I have seen from them in the past I think they will start moving some more of the resources over to Dune. They are the final push to get that game completed and need it to launch as polished as possible. I would expect most of their focus going towards Dune especially if it has good sales at launch.

[@Eradicati0nn]

The devs have already confirmed that both teams are separate and don't share resources. The only thing shared in community managers, but they're also shared across all Funcom games, so nothing out of the ordinary there Source: imgur.com/ltbGL35

[@lilith1902]

@@Eradicati0nn I am skeptical. Funcom has a history of abandoning their old games and shifting resources. Happened with Age of Conan and Secret World. They are possibly cautious if Dune turns out to be a failure.

[@mausolus8466]

If removal of the Battlepass would be acompanied by either cutting down prices in Bazaar to one tenth or announcement of reestablishing plans for cultural DLCs, I wouldn't say a word against this. I had my issues with Battlepass, due to the both personal and technical problems, I managed to complete only two (AoS Ch1 and AoW Ch1), so I will not claim Battlepass was greatest thing added into game. However, since my both requests will be most likely ignored, and reputation Funcom managed to gain with me during AoW I do have bad feeling about this either way

[@sayedarifafraz1824]

At some point it felt like I don't even know why I am playing, like for battlepass grind or just enjoy the game and the story in it. Also, I can't afford the things in bazar. Its so expensive for the region I am in.

[@patatacaliente8270]

I don't know any other game that had a battle pass system and chose to remove it. I for one am glad, though - I don't have much time to play these days and the grind for the Battle Pass got quite tedious. I'll be quite happy to continue supporting the game if they bring good new content and in the Bazaar (and ideally in the form of DLCs), provided they don't go overboard with the prices.

[@Bozinian]

It's a bad move Most casual players shell out the $10 for a bundle of items With most cosmetic skin packs being over $10 for a single skin of $20 for a pack is a horrible deal and only die hard players will support the shop. Only so much outfits my character can wear and I'll settle for one of the few dozen I already own.

[@Eradicati0nn]

I don't really think the Battle Pass has ever been about the money tbh, it's a mechanic to drive player engagement that should, theoretically, lead to more store purchases. If engagement was low though, that time is probably best spent working more on permanent game content, which I think is probably a healthier way to keep people engaged. The game having less bugs would probably increase confidence in the Bazaar too, there's been too many bundles that have released at a premium price with bugs, and standards should be sky high for paid content

[@Bozinian]

@@Eradicati0nn solid point

[@Dirtbag-Hyena]

Young man, you're an amazing artist. I was not expecting a flower until you zoomed out,that was amazing. You should, however, go on the ground and let us see it inside decorated. As far as the devs fixing the game, they really need to work on AI especially the Dregs creature. Theoretically you probably could beat her at lvl 1 IF you could get past all the skellies. She really is a let down and ruins the dungeon. The edition of the spider and Komodo helped, but she's the main attraction and should be hard. Also, I feel not only is she too small her moveset sucks. Great video. I will be missing the battle pass, but as you say, if it helps to fix the game I'm all for it. Take care, brother. ✌🏼

[@Eradicati0nn]

Thank you! I didn't end up decorating this build, it just serves as nice b-roll for videos where it's kinda hard to show what I'm talking about, otherwise it would have been 10 minutes of slowly scrolling the Battle Pass screen 😂 AI in general could do with an upgrade to how they behave, some of them are just super janky

[@UnkleKlumsy1353]

I'm fine with it leaving if it means an improvement to the game. I'm sick of not being able to log in whenever a new chapter drops due to the game auto-crashing. Every time a new pass dropped I'd have to wait days before I could log in. Also the issue of I stopped doing the passes after the last one. I just lost interest and although I know this isn't completely the game for it, I'd really like to see more dungeons and story content added to exiles. For years now I haven't really been into playing very much as it just feels like there isn't much to really do anymore

[@jankoval]

Came here for your commentary on the battle pass removal, got hypnotized by the palace you've been building and realized I need to re-watch the entire video, lol.

[@aresgalamatis7022]

@2:00 DLCs were coherent, battle pass was not

[@syncopatedglory]

i always appreciate your optimistic perspectives. you're my favorite CE content creator ☺️

[@lonewanderer3456]

Battlepass was good, I never had to do any tricks to complete it within 3-4 weeks of play, and it was a far more cost effective way of getting cosmetics than the stupidly overpriced Bazaar. I'd rather see the Battlepass continue and get rid of the Bazaar.

[@devilsmessanger]

also , Eradication , can you design a base that can contain ALL Gods shrines within ?

[@владтрофимов-н5о]

I remember first chapter of AoS was a really big update with many intresting changes, and it all worked pretty well, but all other chapters were always smaller scale. If what they did will make future chapters more like the first one, then i'm all for it

[@GeoMetalStar]

This is a good move. Honestly, I would love to see a UE5 overhaul for this game, make it bigger & better. Conan Exiles 1.5 please. I want TRUE beast mastery ;)

[@Eradicati0nn]

Unfortunately Conan won't ever move to UE5 without a sequel, I think the devs said it would create at least a year of engine work just to restore their custom functionality for pipeline stuff. Conan with Lumen and the other UE5 features would be crazy tho, hopefully one day

[@centurion1.074]

They could add an option where you could choose each battlepass you want to do and being half the price or make the rewards in game drops like scrolls

[@Philbrush]

I am personally happy to see it go. The old DLC were more expensive (if all you did was buy the pass and never visit the bazaar), but I don't know, to me buying into the pass (which I did) is like buying DLC you then have to work to unlock, and honestly, I did not find the grind to be fun! If it was all free, then no problems, it's just in game unlocks. This is pretty much the way i feel about all battle passes though!

[@VaguelyUncertain]

I liked the battle pass. Only had to pay for it once, got cool pet skins. Honestly can’t for the life of me think of why anyone complained. 10$ is a small price for a mechanic that gives ancient knowledge.

[@panzer00]

My problem is with time gates. I should be able to complete it at my own pace, not theirs and then losing access altogether for not finishing it is ridiculous. Seasons never should've been introduced to video games.

[@Eradicati0nn]

You and me both, it was generally good value for the price. The complaint I saw most often in the beginning was it didn't give you excess currency like Fortnite does, but it could have been far worse IMO. I'm happy to see it go if it means the game overall improves though, especially in the bugs department

[@amadhollow635]

@@panzer00I agree, however that’s the point of a battle pass. If you wanted them open forever, you’d have to pay for each

[@panzer00]

@amadhollow635 why would we have to buy each individually if they were always available? They couldn't just add onto it? To be honest, that is the direction games are heading. Apex is changing their battlepass to be required to be purchased with real money every half season.

[@TheD4vie]

i think its more symptomatic of a game in care and maintenance mode with resources reallocated to the new game

[@GaudiaCertaminisGaming]

I didn’t mind the Battlepass at all, and you only had to pay do for it once. But I have to admit I was a little underwhelmed by some of the items on offer. A lot of the gear you could get ranged from the mundane to boring. Some of it was great, most was meh.

[@reaper4944]

I just happen to be checking the Bazaar while I was watching this vid and there's a pack out for 3011 Crom Coins, which is 6 pieces a furniture, next to the Argossean Observatory which is a full building set for 1200........... I think prices are going up.... sigh

[@Eradicati0nn]

Celestial Scholar? Yeah I did a review of that when it dropped in AOW:C4's Mid Season update. Horrendously overpriced and I can't quite work out why, but seems like an outlier at the moment. I wouldn't be too surprised if it ends up getting bundled with the upcoming Corinthian deco set to make the price a little more palatable for both bundles together

[@reaper4944]

@@Eradicati0nn I just checked on it again after seeing your reply, they've now added 3 more pieces of furniture to it, is this the Corinthian deco set you mentioned?

[@ronaldhansen5919]

what building mats were you using for the build here?

[@Eradicati0nn]

Stormglass from the Isle of Siptah DLC, and the Stormglass Cathedral extension from the Black Lotus Bazaar

[@AXIDNT66]

I'm kinda torn on it. I tend to make a character and sorta play it out over a few months, then take a break for 6 months, then come back and play it again a lot. The Battle Pass made me have to play more often to do boring grindy things to get the time limited stuff, which meant I overall got more tired of the game as I never really had time away from it to miss it. On the other hand, the way it returned your Crom Coins was nice and it did mean you got some basically free stuff. In a few cases, the stuff you got was cool enough to influence a playthrough by making a character to sorta RP with the theme. I'm assuming some of the stuff in the future will still be time limited though, to encourage stuff like GamePass play time... Like the new prizes from the Headhunting thing, have we heard whether they are permanent or just available for this time through?

[@mattsmith2247]

It might just be me but the old method of the battle pass was a way of keeping me invested in playing in the game as we're desert sounds. When I heard about the changes to how you would earn battle pass XP I thought it would make the game smoother to play as you wouldn't have to break from what you're doing to do Something Else just for the pass. But in my current play through I'm finding Myself having a hard time thinking of things to do. And the older method always gave me new things to do and new things to think about

[@gaius2451]

I'm new, will I ever get access to these items or are they gone?

[@Eradicati0nn]

They're re-introducing some of the more popular items from old battle passes. It looks like they'll either be ported directly or slightly redesigned and added to the Black Lotus Bazaar for individual purchase, there's a few things that have already been put in there like White Arcane pieces

[@liviuursegr]

to answer your question in only one word: $$$ since you could only buy it once and use it basically for ever, it wasn't making them any money. also spending time and resources on "game play" won't bring them any money either. initially they would put out a DLC for a certain sum. now they committed to a certain schedule due to the ages and chapters. so basically once you bought the game, you can stay as f2p for ever, while they took it upon themselves to still put out content and keep the game alive. hence I also believe that the main focus will change towards the bazzar. and sadly definitely not towards bug fixes and quality of life improvements

[@Wryne]

I know your hoping for better QC, but I'm thinking this is more likely them placing resources to Dune. As cutting the personnel is far more likely for their current workload.....

[@Eradicati0nn]

The Conan dev team have already refuted that, no resources are moving to Dune: imgur.com/ltbGL35 The resources saved from the Battle Pass will all remain in the Conan dev team, presumably just distributed between different departments

[@thedragon4356]

In the battle pass you can get your coins back, hence you only have to buy crom coins once. With the bazaar, you have to keep buying more crom coins to get new content. Players will be forced to buy from the bazaar. Ez funding

[@thatjonguy103]

Some good points, but I do wish they had kept it. Given the longer roll out on ages there could be more time spent on the items, and they could also start recycling items here and there to pad the battle pass.

[@Kitanaoren]

It just felt like they saved face by regurgitating things that should've been in dlc packs instead of time gated with battle passes to boot.

[@SojinCHollis]

I enjoyed battle pass because i can grind it as admin or summon the quest in easy way to complete it. Or teleport to the location required to get rewarded. I stopped playing conan when i returned i didn't even notice battle pass missing until another player mentioned it i didn't understand why it was removed

[@fyrfly8768]

I cant even play the game because the incorporeal floors have become such an issue on my server.

[@JO-zu3mz]

I'm a console player and just want to play the game without wondering if it'll crash in the middle of a dungeon 😂😅 Was also pretty vexed when I found out collossal serpents were not part of the base game. Not too keen on paying for anything right now, especially if I need an internet connection to use them.

[@HellerKeller]

I think the pass was nice but I wasn’t enjoying the game because of the pop-ups, and the burnout I got from battlepasses in general. Also it was too generous (full Crom coin refund)

[@AFowkingPanda]

Sorry but the season pass was minimal dev time to produce. Its really not hard to create these assets at all.

[@LorisLaboratory]

Thanks for the vid! I am terribly curious why they went through all the trouble of redoing the bp challenge/XP system to only have it live for 1 chapter. Did they think it would spark a huge wave of new buyers, and it didnt? Or were they trying to make it harder to finish the BP and get your crom coins back and that backfired when it turned out to be so much easier? 🤔

[@Eradicati0nn]

I presume it was probably in an effort to make it more accessible. The challenges system probably turned at least some people off, so challenges + direct XP made it much fairer and easier, but that wasn't communicated that well, a lot of people thought it was just weekly challenges and had no idea about the direct xp from gameplay. I don't think it was an attempt to make it harder at all, XP rates would have been obviously faster even just in the concept phase

[@hugoitano]

I agree that they should do that with the old battle pass stuff and as someone who used my coins and paid for every pass I'd like to see it free for others

[@spritfire4947]

I quit the game when they brought a battle pass to the game. I'm sure the game will gain more players like me if they realize they were wrong and fix it.

[@Eradicati0nn]

Surprisingly, I think most ended up thinking the battle pass was pretty fair, myself included. The main problems lie in the Bazaar unfortunately, but I'm of the opinion that bugs and quality control are a far bigger problem that needs to be tackled before anything else. On the upside, if you've not played since Age of Sorcery: Chapter 1, you've got a lot of content to catch up on 😂

[@spritfire4947]

@@Eradicati0nn I'm looking forward to playing xD

[@Kitanaoren]

The battle pass was awful, it's not only a battle pass but a premium one separately. Then the store sucks, they make a set just above the 20 dollar mark forcing you to pay 30 bucks for the coins no matter how you look at it.

[@MrJustinArt]

Just as well. I never paid for the battle pass and the rewards I unlocked (emotes, armors, crom coins, etc) through doing challenges never showed up anyway. Edit: Turns out paying for the bpass was a requirement to actually get most of the rewards. Oh well. I did have fun with the challenges, though...

[@StanleyMac]

When i came back to play this game and saw this i got demotivated. It wasn't the immersive game i enjoyed roleplaying in like before. They could have easily added this tab to talkable NPSs that say they just have some contacts.

[@jackychen6261]

A battle pass in a game where you need to pay to play the game is just strange to start with. Things like battlepasses, ingame shops etc are ways for F2P games to make money. But if you choose to make players pay to get your game thats how you monetize the game. Putting in more is just a clearly greedy way to milk your player base for more money. Even if paying is “optional”, we humans are really bad at making decisions and thats a scientifically proven fact, so putting all shiny and pretty stuff like that in a battlepass can easily cause players to pay more for a game they already paid for. I enjoyed Conan Exiles back in the day but i just dont feel like playing it anymore after all that extra monetization was put in

[@kmac169]

I've got to say the implementation of the changes to the battle pass system in chapter 4 was a glitchy mess for many people. Instead of making it faster it made it slower with constant bugs causing people to not gain the xp needed to advance the pass. For many, yeah it took a week or two but for many others it took up to 6 weeks or more to complete. On the whole I'm mixed as to how I feel about the pass, and that type of system in general trying to compel me to play the game more often then I'd like or risk missing out on rewards that interested me. The bazaar with it's insufferable rotating inventory availability isn't much better... actually with the overpriced nature of most the of the items it's worse. I'm not sure I'll miss the pass being gone, and as I've said before I'd really rather have it return to readily available DLC packs rather than the bazaar or in game events.

[@Ranger224]

Personally not a battle pass fan, but on conan i did enjoy it, as a console player i have always found conan lacking in stuff such a decoration items (especially after seeing thing PC players get in mods) the battle pass in conan gave some of these type of items (along with the bazaar) so fir me it will be missed

[@monsterofgod3315]

Battlepass being removed? omfg finally. I think the store by itself is fine. The game didn't need both monitization methods

[@reallifeshadow3552]

Im trying to figure out why nobody is covering the game breaking bugs, repeatedly.

[@yiany]

They will probably stop supporting the game; they're switching to DUNE full-time.

[@latestaff9748]

nice base pretty dope its amazing how you talk and build at hte same time and by the time your done building your done talking bout updates

[@Eradicati0nn]

Thanks! It's decent b-roll for when I'm talking about something that I can't really show footage of, plus I do enjoy a good build 😂

[@seltin1988]

i just dont hope that the content in the battlepass gets removed as well... even if its just a bug :I

[@Tyrael538]

i'm a bit sad as well that i won't get free stuff from the battle pass, but i keep hope that the devs will bring good content with more time on their hands. overall i think it is better that they are not on a schedule just to fill-in the seasonal battlepass.

[@Eradicati0nn]

I'm hopeful of that too, the new rewards from Bounty Hunting are general a good sign, and free-to-earn armors, weapons etc will likely play a part in making future content more replayable and just generally increasing retention. I'm looking forward to seeing the quality level of future updates, I've got high hopes that they'll be improved with the extra time allotted

[@takeiteasy2232]

To bad, was a great way to get more items. Never understood why people complained Basically a one time purchase for unlimited new content

[@mezarod8749]

NEW PLAYER HERE........ WHAT DLCs ARE WORTH MY TIME???? THANK U IN ADVANCE

[@Eradicati0nn]

I fortunately already have videos showcasing all the DLCs! Here's one covering every DLC up to April 2021: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2rXl6aop8d4qA In retrospect, I'd probably upgrade Siptah's rating to a 3.5 or 4 for PvE Here's the review of People of the Dragon, the only DLC not on that list: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYWahmChmdeDhrM

[@Layanor]

Thank you

[@DeathForSk8]

I have a very different theory about this. The whole "we want to focus our work on other stuff (and we're not telling you what)" is just PR talk. The simple reality is that the game is slowly dying as it ages, and the battlepass does not produce much revenue compared to the bazaar. Expect the rate of new content to slowly diminish over time. As revenue decreases, employees are laid off. Do not expect any significant quality improvements. They had more than 7 years to fix major issues like the horrid server performance and knocked out thralls falling through the map yet it's the same.

[@Eradicati0nn]

The statement is definitely put through the PR filter, basically every communication from every game dev is, aside from indies ofc. The BP was definitely not a money maker, but it was never intended to be, it's a retention mechanic. I'd bet they probably don't lose much, if any money by removing it, and I'm guessing it might not have been a great success in keeping people playing as they might have hoped. Results remain to be seen for now, and the game's age is definitely a negative factor in its growth, but I think they still have a chance. Given that they've just hired more staff for the Conan team, the next few updates will be instrumental in where the game is going, and how

[@DeathForSk8]

@@Eradicati0nn oh I had no idea that they hired new staff, that's good to hear! I really hope they are IT experts who will fix performance and bugs, and not just artists and game designers. I remember during one of their livestreams of one of the age of sorcery reveals they kept getting disconnected from their official servers it was really embarrassing to watch. And couple days ago I started playing on official again and the server was busted all of last night.

[@davidmacon1138]

No matter where you stand. The problem is, the older kid is always forgotten when the new baby comes around lol

[@mickhoward3954]

I'll take the DLC any day, if I like something that's going to add value to the game and give me more options permanently moving forward, then I'm happy to support the company and buy the content. The Battlepass was putrid filth and stopped me playing my favourite game; 2K+ hours and Chapter 4 just killed it for me.

[@MusouWarrior720]

wish they will rebalance some of the enemies stats some bosses now are a joke. even purge 10 i managed to solo it

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

I know that other people are going to miss the battle pass but I'm not. Good and bad are 100% subjective. I personally never liked any of the battle pass rewards in Exiles. I never saw anything that I felt was worth grinding for. The battle pass was "bad" IMO as a result. I am really curious what the developers are going to do next to increase player retention. Focusing exclusively on the shop is not going to keep people playing.

[@mkb2195]

I don't like battle passes, it was the reason I deleted Conan, if they remove it, I might download it again.

[@jibblejabjoe]

If the battle pass was making Funcom money, they wouldn’t give it the axe.

[@Eradicati0nn]

Most likely true. From what I understand though, Battle Passes don't really make money, they're mostly for player engagement instead, which is a very valuable metric

[@unfalr]

Battle pass did not make good money, as you say they just reinvest the coins from the first battle pass and so on and its all about making money, so battle pass is not a good investment. And the old stuff in the first battle pass was added in the bazar one time for absurd prices so they are just going to sell the rest of the items in the bazar when the battle pass is over, as I say its all about making money.

[@user-Jim499]

I can agree with you Eradication!.. I'm more into quality over quantity if this helps let's do this

[@War_Hunter]

why are you removing my comment?

[@Glubbdubdrib]

Hopefully they remove the intro movie along with the battle pass.

[@DeathsMASK83]

Battle Pass was the only time I would put money into this game not including all DLC pack theres no chance I'm putting money into the bazaar especially when the dlcs are cheaper and have way more stuff in them the bazaar is over priced and that's not going to change

[@LadyVesuvius]

Conan Exiles has been a buggy mess to some degree before and since the battle pass. Getting rid of the battle pass wont change anything in that department (imo anyway).

[@Eradicati0nn]

Yeah the game's always had bugs, the problem was just severely exacerbated by the 3 month cycle, mostly. They were trying to do too much with far too little time andresources for that timeframe, so the bugs snowballed way more than they had before

[@thorsforge2905]

They are going to flat out make more money by removing the Battle Pass. Things like the building pieces you got from the Battle pass will now be in the Bazaar and will cost what a whole Battle pass costed at a minimum. Instead of getting 2 sets of armor, multiple placeables and multiple building pieces for a whole 1200 crom coins.

[@Eradicati0nn]

I doubt the battle pass was really making money anyway, it's a tool for player retention, not profit. Building pieces only showed up in two of seven passes, but armor will mostly come from the Bazaar now, unless they plan on adding more armor that is free to earn in-game, like the new Khitan Slaver set from the Headhunter event

[@thorsforge2905]

@@Eradicati0nn Correct, so now we the consumer will wind up paying more. Again.

[@Swarmofflies]

I genuinely fear that the removal of the battle pass will be a death knell to my regular Conan Exiles play, as it was one of the main driving forces to bring me back into the game, every age, and I was always eager to see what the offerings were for each age, and the challenges forced me to go explore places I'd long ear marked as uninteresting again, only to find some cool new secret or environmental storytelling. Now, with it's removal, I genuinely am not sure what would actually bring me back? Especially if they simply recycle old events. all of which I've already played through. Of course I understand that as a game company, they need those artists to move on to Dune, which I am genuinely eagerly expecting, but I cannot help but be a little sad at the loss of the battle pass and by it's demise, the slow fall of the game for me. Also, the battle pass items did -not- generally cause all the bugs in the game. Sure, some individual items may have been shoddily implemented into the existing framework, but all the battle pass items were, were simply art assets with -very- light implementation. The people crafting those assets are almost certainly not the people doing the playtesting, let alone bug fixing, and it frustrates me to no end to have that old lie still being pushed by content creators. Battle passes in pretty much all games have a two-fold purpose, to keep the artists employed even after the game at large is finished, and for player retention. Naturally the added income is nice, but as Eradicati0n puts it, it is unlikely to be a massive source of income in comparison to the items in the store. But to believe that they will still use the same amount of artist work to generate free assets for events is ludicrously short sighted statement as there is zero reason to do it, other than for player retention and that is not very valuable at all, especially when Dune is very close to coming out, which will very likely drain most Conan players at least initially. So all the end of the battle pass does is make sure that they might grace their most loyal players with a crumb or two from the table, but the rest of the effort that is not filtered into Dune is going straight to the shop, and that, that breaks my heart a little, because I genuinely enjoyed my returns to Conan with each age.

[@Eradicati0nn]

I presume the idea is to devote the saved time, at least in part, to producing actual gameplay content that is worth doing and brings people back, rather than trying to lure them back with a battle pass they can complete in a week. Good value as it was, it probably wasn't the healthiest way to encourage people to play Conan if the only thing they were playing for was to get battle pass levels No artists are being moved to Dune though. Dune and Conan are completely separate: imgur.com/ltbGL35

[@nicolapellegrino1072]

Mmmmhhh I don't think battlepass would have taken resources from debug and optimization, that's a problem exiles always had even before battlepass... the game is a bug mess, funcom need to monetize, and they want to do it as fast as possible... I don't think the next chapters without battlepass will make things better, the bounty hunt re/release has been another lazy move developers for example and the fact ages now will be released every six months don't think will change anything... we'll see.

[@Eradicati0nn]

It definitely would have taken some resources, but also the devs and artists freed up can now work on permanent content. Extra devs & dev time especially should help to further develop content and send it to QA in a better state, and that plus the freed up QA time should help deliver that content without game breaking bugs, ideally I definitely don't think the Headhunter release is lazy though. It was always going to return at some point, and it includes a slew of new rewards, and costs & rewards have been rebalanced. Had it been a straight re-release for a major chapter update it'd definitely be lazy, but improved & rebalanced in a mid-season update is a much more appropriate place for events, especially returning ones imo

[@nicolapellegrino1072]

@Eradicati0nn I love this game... simply it seems developers want to leave it behind prioritizing on new projects, but they don't understand how much potential this game still has and that's sad. About bounty hunting i partially agree with you, adding new free contents is good and well accepted but that's a feature removed and reintroduced, nothing new... I hope next age will make a leap backward and bring back sorcery and new powerful spells and rituals... people are asking for a new map and new dungeons from months I hope funcom will hear the community...

[@piotrgruszka9128]

Thanks for the video Mate. Unfortunately, I have been with Funcom since Age of Conan and The Secret World and I know one thing, there will be no Battlepass with free items (if someone has 1200 CC properly), but there will still be bugs and unfinished content. We can fill our heads with dreams, but years pass and there is still no improvement. Why should I believe that Funcom is doing what it does for gamers this time? Through lack of communication, carelessness and greed, they have made us lose our trust and, to put even more nails in the coffin, they play by changing the colors of existing things and repeating the same thing over and over again, like Witch Hunt. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm right, we just lost something that many were waiting for (Battlepass) and in return we got promises of nothing.

[@surviplays]

great castle)

[@inswarlock09]

i loved battle pass

[@d.b.cherry8478]

How about just bring back the DLC packs and scrap the bizarre as well. Then add new season events and map additions like Fortnite since they decided to go the live service route.

[@Eradicati0nn]

The DLC system wasn't providing enough funding to develop free-for-all features at a faster pace, which was the reason for moving to the Ages system in the first place. The Bazaar has plenty of issues, but I also remember how ploddingly slow updates were before the Ages system, and often how little they included 😩

[@tombooze74]

The only problem is the Bazaar is a compete con

[@weihongtan649]

if battle pass and Twitch Tv reward gone more hard work for player run 2 server or more. in official server exilse and siptah not in the same server now that u cant move around been neft . now event have to run 2 time on farming super suck. u can play only one on official server in one mth they can server down for few time,

[@Unknown_Web_User]

Conan is constantly changing stuff, they should chill.

[@mrmalcolm]

FIX THE BUGS

[@Stahe]

I couldn't watch your video, could only listen to it. Your rapid building speed and camera movements made me nauseous rather quickly. Whatever you were building in the beginning looked cool though.

[@paragonvice1128]

Battlepass was bad because FOMO -- it's mostly going to be artists creating content for it. 3D modellers and texture artists, unless Funcom was so incompetent it was putting QA testers and programmers to work creating battlepass content. When 3D modellers and texture artists are being redistributed elsewhere, it's going to be into creating more weapons, armours, decos and blocks. The anxiety that they're being put to bazaar content is a fair one, as before the BP and Bazaar Funcom were exceptionally reluctant about putting new outfits/deco/etc into the game for free. Before the Age of Sorcery update, what was the last free new model put into the base game? What was it before the Wine Cellar and Warmaker's sanctuary? And let's not forget the old, consumer-friendly DLC model was abandoned in favour of this horseshit, of the overpriced bazaar. I'm glad the BP is gone, but it's because the BP is predatory as shit. Their bazaar is still predatory, but when you're poor you at least know something you like will be coming back *eventually*.

[@theshaggster5536]

This is a fun game no doubt but to say its the best survival rig game is reaching a long way. Don't let your bias show

[@Eradicati0nn]

"I think it could easily be the best survival game out there, but to reach that point testing and QA have got to come up" That is the quote you're referring to. "Could" is a very important word there

[@theshaggster5536]

@Eradicati0nn thank you very much for the respect of a reply. Love your content and insights. I may not agree with everything you think but I do appreciate your insight on the game. Please don't take my thoughts personally and keep up the great work.

[@HalcyonDaze33]

The odds of Battlepass resources being funneled into bug fixes and testing hovers right around 0%. I think they are just going to milk a dead game at this point.

[@spyro2789]

How about releasing less EXPENSIVE BAZAAR ITEMS and leaving the battle pass if they dont have time? oh yeah... THEIR PROFIT would be gone... The bazaar was content to work on to make no profit since people used to complete it and get their money back. Wich means they are throwing the free content into the trash, now launching updates every 6 months instead of 3... In my country, if you cannot follow the rythm, you hire more developers... instead of deleting the only good prized cosmetic content. Before all of this you used to pay 10 dollars for a full set of themed arquitecture, with 3 armors (light meduim and heavy) and lot of more things like saddles, weapons, decorations etc. They are turning it into a full profit system where they give you 3 saddles for 15$... We all should stop buying funcom bazaar content until they relax a bit and lower their exagerated prizes

[@ElDrHouse2010]

well nobody was buying so lol. later nerd. it deserved to go. its basic supply & demand logic.

[@hellraisor21]

Im sry never liked it the game got boring during battlepass but yet i never earned a coin even if it was free i still would have to pay for it. So dumb. I love the old style its mainly cosmetics but adding buffs make it better in terms if face a heavy normal

[@PapaSony-v8j]

battle pass sucked ass just because if you weren't a slave to this game (pun intended) there were no way to get stuff you missed at season 1 or whatever....and other than few good items included, most of the rewards are crap anyway. like million emotes, or those freaking trebuchet balls. why ? I mean to grind one level just to get stuff you will not even want to bother to salvage, is beyond me. now - if they were obtainable after battle pass was done....that would be other story, but since this game is only a money grab excuse for a finished game, no thank you! No game deserved a bigger boycott than this piece of unfinished s....also mate, i never took you for that naive until now. you think they will finally give us something good? nah man. they will just stuff bazaar with cr@p and harvest this until there are no more sheep to play this game...or until dune is released :)