Why is every YouTuber quitting?

[@kaijuultimax9407]

Boy this video sure came out at the right time. Goodbye MatPat, truly the end of an era is upon us

[@duckduck5728]

Close one chapter and open a new one, def will miss the good ol days

[@namesareboring2009]

All I’m saying on the matter is that I’m glad he’s still somewhat on KZbin after he quits. He just won’t be a host for any of the four channels but he’ll work on stuff in the background like brainstorming ideas n’ stuff. Don’t get me wrong, I’m going to miss his commentary and his voice :(

[@dreadfulfr]

im just glad hes passing the torch to people he believes in instead of letting his channels die with him

[@CherryTree277]

hey guys i'm quitting as well

[@dreadfulfr]

@@CherryTree277 no stock photo dog part two now 😔😔

[@Joel-Haver]

I’m insane but cool insane like Joker

[@tttttttttttttttp12]

Do you live in a society?

[@SirThilliomAnimations]

And dapper. Jokers pretty dapper. OH and suave.

[@whoisanarnb]

I hope you have another job so you don't starve and die and my content tube of constant entertainment won't get slower than it already has become in the last couple months

[@Littlefirefilm]

Joel cookoo crazy Haver

[@goosedasheen]

I think the expression "crazy like a fox" is more appropriate.

[@TheDiamondCore]

Matpat… He was one of the guys I watched growing up, it’s a shame to see him leave KZbin, but nothing lasts forever.

[@kelsaystar]

same

[@64bitgrim]

Relatable

[@goop864]

I think he said he still has other plans and is still working behind the scenes (because y'know, he made the channel)

[@webbedshadow2601]

One of the first video thumbnails I remember seeing on KZbin back in 2012/2013 when I was 11 years old was a MatPat Game Theory video I think it was about the Leap of faith in Assassin's Creed. Or maybe it was "The best boobs in gaming" actually

[@keithharrissuwignjo2460]

@@webbedshadow2601 Classics

[@Chrono-and-Co]

9 years...9 years I have watched matpat,he has allowed me to get through really tough points in my life and he has been such an impact on my life. He will never be forgotten,and that's not just a theory,it's a fact

[@theincrediblefella7984]

Cringe

[@ecardozo7043]

it's funny how people came here to grieve for matpat... I loved his videos, but.. damn.

[@yeng1855]

Based.

[@raggedcaster123]

@@theincrediblefella7984stop being a hater and use the 3 seconds it took you to write this message to give your mother a hug, if you even have one.

[@JXßT3R]

​@@theincrediblefella7984 I bet your proud of yourself

[@kennyholmes5196]

MatPat has joined the ranks of those who have departed KZbin. Game Theory isn't going anywhere, but MatPat is.

[@Pr0toPoTaT0]

MMMMMAAAAAATTTTTTTPPPPAAAAAAATTTTTTT

[@gunpla_sk8]

This needs to be a headline

[@Pr0toPoTaT0]

@@gunpla_sk8 it was for a while

[@cadebayerl8117]

That basically guarantees that Game Theory is going to fall off hard.

[@johngulster7787]

It's the decline of old-school content creators trying to make ends meet against the lazy content farms, Mr beast wannabes, and crappy tik tok influencers.

[@buckethatboy8719]

this exactly

[@KazeMunashii]

that and drama channels were just a trend at one point. now you have drama as the de-facto thing if you dont cover, wont get you views, but because of this, you now wake up everyday and theres 10 channels on youtube talking about the same thing, sometimes the same news report with one added scene for two weeks with no other thing to cover, or some channels like diesel patches or others, who dont put out a newsreport until 3 weeks later once everyone already knows what happened.

[@axa993]

This.

[@LittleKrieg]

This is true but Matt Pat was a weird case because he was still pulling millions of views he just well moved on he's going to focus on his family more now but still working in the shadows just not as much

[@Parasiteve]

they put time and effort into their vids only to get out done by lazy content thats just BS. i dont blame em for leaving.

[@Wunba]

It’s definitely understandable why people are quitting. There is a lot of stress involved in “needing” an upload to do well. I feel it almost every time I upload. At the end of the day though, KZbin is a blessed job that I’m super grateful for. What I find that helps is if I just accept that videos will perform however they do, and once it’s posted it’s out of my control. I can always make another and if it’s not meant to be then I’ll always find another job. Just knowing you’ll be okay regardless of what happens and taking it easy to not burn out I think is important. 😁

[@wharfninja]

i aint reading all that

[@kyionining]

I Trapped EVERY Minecraft Mob in 36 Hours!!!

[@godhimself1128]

Whenever a youtuber cries to their audience a video is underperforming my eyes just glaze over from how little I care. Its even worse when they beg people to watch it. Like they can't even respect my time or preferences.

[@_TedKaczynski]

​@@godhimself1128 or them crying about demonization or copyright for the 10,000th time. I get it sucks but dude it's the risk of the trade.

[@SexKing-hj9nv]

Waaaaaaaa, youtube is only paying me several times more per hour than a doctor would be paid for a job most people DREAM of doing while aquiring no debt to learn how to do it, waaaaaa waaaaa feel sorry for me while you work a normal shitty job and I put in hours a day at most. KZbin really sucks! Good hope these ingrates quit and come back to dead audiences after a decade when all the easy money has run out and then realise they have to work min wage for rest of thier pathetic lives because they have been replaced, we will see how there mental health does then.

[@frogglen6350]

The completionist was so dedicated to quitting youtube that he ruined his career

[@JordyToons]

Well you could say he completed his career.

[@biggestbirddavid]

wait what did he do

[@SlyQueguy]

​@@biggestbirddavidcharity fraud and embezzlement. He admitted to it

[@yosh-9999]

@@biggestbirddavid he was doing a charity events but the money wasnt going to charity

[@aroman6413]

@@yosh-9999 Add on to the fact that he had been doing this for 10 years. But for more information, check out Karl Jobst’s trilogy about him.

[@newpianotutorials]

There's another reason, the algorithm was massively changed in July 2022 which affected larger creators way more than anyone else, this channel included. I'm sure it was to allow KZbin to level the playing field for the smaller channels that complained that the bigger channels just always got the views, but what happened was that the huge catalogues of content no longer counted for anything. So, before you would have an ever increasing sub count and view rate, all that stopped overnight - meaning if you had poured your heart and soul into KZbin and made thousands of videos, you could no longer rely on those videos to continue to earn. So you had to work harder than ever just to stay afloat. I have much smaller channels that will make way more views on that channel than if I publish it on this channel, but it's exactly the same video. So a lot more KZbinrs are either going to start totally new channels and rebrand, or quit.

[@stingray-537]

Weird because KZbin had a whole new idea: they stopped recommending my videos. I am a small channel. I will probably quit KZbin this year. I don't think it's the style of the videos because KZbin has been recommending videos with the same style and these ppl would get subs and views faster than me. Kinda weird and unfair honestly. KZbin should recommend bigger *and* smaller channels.

[@NHCORE_______________________j]

@@stingray-537 Yeah same i got shadowbanned a while back ago so i made a new channel and it's doing well (same type of vids to) so i say keep going never quit

[@PraxisPrepper]

I dual post the same video to two channels that I have. One has 20k subs and the other has 2k subs. It's seemingly random to me which does better, but they hardly ever have similar performance. Whatever is going on, it's not based on the videos or click through rates themselves. I've have a video with a 98% CTR and retention at 250% and likes at 99% tank and die on KZbin recently. Whatever they've done, it doesn't seem to push videos that people like and want to see.@@NHCORE_______________________j

[@ExtraPractice]

New piano tutorials came back to life on the most unexpected video lol

[@TheRyujinLP]

Nope. KZbin is just driving out the unwanted rabble. KZbin wants to be TV 2.0. It doesn't want small, passionate creators. You will have no escape form product. Just enjoy product, then get exited for next product. Don't think, just repeat what we tell you to.

[@Jawclamps]

The part about going from being fueled by hope to being fueled by fear is so real.

[@thatonegoofygoobery]

A comment from jawclamps with only 8 likes and no replies? Lemme fix that.

[@campbell_soup517]

Anthpo didn't suddenly quit. He made it known that he would finish uploading videos once he graduated college, which he did. It wasn't really about the money or anything of that sort - he just made a plan and stuck to it, and left us with so many beautiful memories and laughs along the way.

[@pimkinn]

atill miss him but i hope hes doing alr, but now have OKPOP soo win win

[@benjaminguzman3428]

Same for Tom Scott. He had a plan for year to stop after 10 years.

[@Afearedraccoon]

I don’t know if you’ve heard but he’s back

[@campbell_soup517]

@@Afearedraccoon sure is

[@lolima9986]

watching this video after matpat just announced he was leaving makes it hurt even more. without the good, OG youtubers then youtube will just lose its feeling of comfort. i do understand why they are leaving, and even though its for the better, they do still deserve a place in the "hall" of youtube.

[@boreasvanaert2914]

This is so sad 😢

[@BrosManIsMan]

Ikr 😢​@@boreasvanaert2914

[@joelrobinson5457]

The big good youtubers quitting are replaced by a thousand low effort bad channels, we're heading for a collapse

[@aidencalhoun4893]

​​@@joelrobinson5457I mean, Matpat said he was going to give the channel to someone else, so I doubt the channel with be replaced with low effort content

[@LXW-Arts]

KZbin needs to ease up on the regulations. Also, youtube needs to actually help smaller channels grow instead of putting all the attention to youtubers that already have over 500k subs.

[@ZackarySmigel]

Great video dude! I also think the pandemic played a bigger role in all this than people think. Everyone went online and content creation kinda exploded again. Many creators just put their heads down and focused even harder on the grind because it was working so well. Now that life is somewhat back to normal a lot of those creators are realizing they don't need to do that anymore and focus on creating content that makes them more fulfilled. Just speculation, but something I noticed with myself last year. My old channel was making me good money but I wasn't happy.

[@TheTalentlessWriter]

Thank you! And yeah everyone’s views definitely were way higher in the pandemic, im sure people being home along with the fact that KZbin Shorts weren’t monetized yet had a big role in regular horizontal content doing better

[@KatoChaotix]

Man the fact this came out and 4 days later MATPAT announces he's quitting... Man. An era is ending.

[@dugoose6934]

KZbin is completely inhumane with the expectations it sets for creators, And knowing that there are full time youtubers the company should be held accountable for it.

[@duscarasheddinn8033]

And this makes it seem more and more justified to use the R-word against the site itself.

[@DexDexter0]

"I quit my job to do KZbin full time" Everyone who I've heard this from has tread the exact same path of desperation. Working a 9-5 isnt that bad, if only because my time/money graph is linear

[@shredder_tube]

You mean linear in a horizontal path when considering costs? Luckkky 🍀

[@Wernershnitzl]

Yeah same I value my free time quite a bit and at least working 7-4 half of my day most people are either working or sleeping lol

[@illustriouschin]

Can you be creative in you 9-5? Do you want to do 9-5 until you are too old to do it or they fire you and then you are 82 years old working at Walmart?

[@ahuman32478]

@@illustriouschinYou can't be creative in KZbin either, you gotta do what's popular. Might as well just go back to a cushy comfy 9 to 5 office job. In fact, you can get a remote job, which is even better

[@Kalitayy]

"Working a 9-5 isnt that bad" Ohh boy, as a person who works 9-5 and not exactly hates his job, I can't tell if this is real or just copium. I just know that being a content creator means that you have more freedom than any "normal job"

[@MadmanmadisonYT]

I miss 2011 when doing KZbin was nothing more than a fun hobby, now it's all about the money.

[@Bargate]

Yeah but we are getting more quality videos because people can do this full time

[@GraveUypo]

@@Bargate idk about that. we are getting way more trash than before from people who just game the system, and the "good videos" are so formulaic that they all feel the same to watch

[@ShadyOnlineYT]

⁠@@user-gm3sd7ru8t Right! I find KZbin just so boring now, everyone’s videos look, sound, and feel the same. I remember a time when KZbinrs just did their own unique thing but now everyone’s trying to be MrBeast or following some other formula. These days I actually find myself going out of my way to watch videos from like 5-10 years ago because they’re still entertaining to this day! We need that style of content back

[@99Plastics]

youtube is filled to the brim with 2011 level garbage, you just expect current level of quality for people to be doing for "fun"

[@webbedshadow2601]

Same with the gaming industry, now its all about the mobile games, battle pass and MTX

[@SonicDavid]

That’s why I’m doing KZbin and still going to school

[@Beanzops]

Okay...

[@tocaizo]

Cool

[@elishafollet5347]

Sounds good

[@mr.trashbear8124]

Ayy it’s sonic david

[@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr]

youtube is like taking art commishes it's basically a side hustle

[@TommyGK]

I’m actually at the point of deciding to retire myself. I have been burned out of crafts after 10 years and finding it hard to keep up with trends and was even full time on KZbin. My revenue has halved after the pandemic and algorithms have changed so much to the point of me returning to a full time job I don’t love and work between day job and KZbin. I’m always working and my heart is in tears. I have no idea what my future holds tho I don’t feel KZbin is in it. I am happy that you were able to make a living full time on KZbin. Follow your heart.

[@TheTalentlessWriter]

Wishing you best of luck on your journey 🙏

[@KneeCaps]

KZbin's like an old game you used to have fun on, but people have found out the meta and make the game slightly less fun

[@DungeonSoup]

As someone who is trying to transition in to doing KZbin full-time, this video is making me question my very existence.

[@TheTalentlessWriter]

The secret is actually to make more RuneScape stories (*this will not work but I love RuneScape)

[@DungeonSoup]

@@TheTalentlessWriter Ah, a fellow Runescape enjoyer. See the problem is I only have about 3 or 4 interesting Runescape stories, so maybe not a long term plan for success.

[@jenkathefridge3933]

I advise do youtube as a hobby

[@TangsTails]

@DungeonSoup I love your animations! Also, same boat here 🥲

[@k7ue]

This is why you get a real job people and do KZbin

[@Sleeper_Pills]

As a super popular KZbinr, I'm quitting too

[@2JOfficial]

As a super popular KZbinr, i'm thinking about it

[@WashedJawsh]

As the first youtuber with 10 bobillion subs, i too am quitting in order to choose a new path in life (becoming homeless)

[@piklaspiklida123]

​@@2JOfficialτι 😢

[@gaming_gamer483]

as a KZbinr with literally billions of subscribers, I QUIT

[@gaming_gamer483]

all of my videos are private now that’s how you don’t see any of the trillions of views

[@SnackinWithSuper]

I quit one of my 7 year old channel because it wasn't working anymore. The new rules in 2020 demolished that channel and the revenue dropped 90%. It was a stab in the heart because I was so close to quitting my 13 year old job, but good thing I didn't. I made a new one and this one seems to be picking up. Things happen.

[@WesleyCuster-zw6lh]

Who else randomly found this video right after seeing Matpat announcing he was retiring from game theory 😢

[@cocomo3141]

✋🏿

[@Totgehoert]

🙋‍♂️

[@Giganzilla19]

✋️

[@prosto_a_user]

i purposely found this video cause everyone is quitting

[@jumex_mango]

Fr😢😢😢

[@Kalitayy]

MatPat just announced his retirement. I'm not only sad because I'm gonna miss him a lot. But it's just sad that in order to be able to afford retirement these days is by becoming a KZbinr with millions of followers

[@worldofdoom995]

???? You can retire in hundreds of different careers what are you on about?

[@BreadCatMarcus]

​@@worldofdoom995To be fair, the economy is so f*cked right now, it's going to be impossible to retire in most jobs unless it recovers somehow.

[@pootzmagootz]

​@@worldofdoom995 likely only for the top 10% of paying jobs. Everyone else is not going to be able to retire in about 10 years. KZbin is an easy way to secure a retirement fund

[@Kalitayy]

⁠@@worldofdoom995At the age of 60? If that’s the case then yeah

[@sasielb8922]

@@Kalitayy60 is generous

[@SuperNintendoMan]

So here is my thoughts on this topic. KZbin back in it golden days was so entertaining. People like sml or pewdiepie were constantly making banger after banger. The reason they were is because KZbin wasn’t as strict on what you could do and say. Now KZbin is destroying content creators and not giving smaller channels a chance. A lot of channels back in the day were 100% for fun and I understand we need to make money to survive but at some point you come to realize now a lot of KZbin is plagued with commentary channels who are nothing but negative. That’s why I want to create good content and just be myself but KZbin will always be part time no matter how much money I make

[@dustinduzgames1276]

SML still makes content I've been watching them since 2011 yeah they're Humor changed a little bit but they still make funny vids and actually they've been being more inappropriate lately and getting away with it

[@bscott9141]

Finally somebody called out commentary channels! They all just come off so negative and self-righteous. Everybody and their momma have an opinion on everything under the sun.

[@KhanMann66]

KZbin cares only for money and not rocking the boat.

[@stingray-537]

"KZbin is destroying content creators and not giving smaller channels a chance" As a small channel, I agree with you. In november, october or whatever tf that month was of 2023, KZbin in all of a sudden *STOPPED* recommending my videos. Then, I got the views back thanks to the hashtags in the description, but now KZbin barely recommends my videos even with hashtags. One of my videos barely hit 20 views and my other one barely hits 90-100. I used to get 100-2.000 views and 6-100 likes. Now I get 6, then 4 and now 1. Now I get views, but I barely get likes. I think KZbin is trying their best to destroy my channel cuz I have been reported by KZbin Team more than 4 times, some of my videos got copyright claimed and I was forced to remove some of my videos, some of my *oldest* videos got age restricted and I was forced to take them down and now they won't recommend my videos. KZbin, wake the f**k up and listen to us. I don't care If I sound like a whiny brat here, just listen to us.

[@SuperNintendoMan]

@@stingray-537 hey man I’ll drop a sub

[@LiNX4]

When I first went full time into youtube the mental fear of losing everything was paralyzing. I decided I would worry about it in like 10 years and not think about it. Well its now like 10 years later and things still aren't easier lol. If you dont become filthy rich as a youtuber then you either conform to the algorithm as a desperate attempt to maintain your life or completely revolt and try something new hoping new passion projects will overshadow the uncertainty dread in the future.

[@EnergeticSpark63]

hey

[@Kalitayy]

That's basically how life is, sadly. You only get your freedom and happiness once you're filthy rich. For those who aren't, we go back to slaving.

[@DEADEYESTUDIO]

Yeah this is why I’m just gonna do what I want to do as a hobby. I’d love to not work at a job I hate and just make games, but the reality is that the chance of success is slim and I don’t want to make things that hit some boring ass trend or algorithm, I want to make original weird shit, and that’s not gonna sell well unless I somehow get lucky, and I just don’t have the motivation to attempt to hit that nearly impossible success. And even if I get successful, can I keep making things that are just as successful? Or is it just a downhill slope from there? Yeah a hobby is better, making a career in this shit feels nearly impossible.

[@LXW-Arts]

First you need to buy friends Get family involved Possibly get neighbors involved Big youtubers never do anything completely by themselves they have teams, they aren't self made at all.

[@bscott9141]

​@@DEADEYESTUDIOI definitely feel you on this. Every time I think about trying to start my channel I get anxious, depressed, I feel deeply uncertain. I finally decided to just stick to studying accounting (it's a very low competition field) and maybe in the future I'll start my channel as a fun hobby.

[@dakat5131]

It's funny how a couple years ago everyone was going in hard on the "full-time youtuber" thing. it was a whole "if you even think about uploading even one video, you better be prepared to make this your full time job and commit to it or else" And now everyone's just now realizing that's not always a good idea and hoping that nobody will remember.

[@jondoe8350]

I believe one of the reason KZbinrs are quitting is because of all the rules KZbin puts but doesn’t follow up on, and how breathing the wrong way will get you cancelled for no reason, evidence be damned and people will harass you.

[@BigFinn]

One thing I also noticed is that we're just simply getting older. KZbinrs that have been on youtube for over 10 years have families and kids now and would much rather spend more time with them rather then pouring hours and hours and hours into youtube and spending less time with them. It's basically the reason why MooSnuckle and MatPat are leaving KZbin. I'm very happy that some of my favorite youtbers are quitting to fix their relationships with their families and spend more time with them.

[@AudreyZaa]

Yeah, and game theory just quit about 2 hours ago. That one made me cry, he called us(his viewers) his children. As someone with a really bad dad, and had a bad dad during my childhood when I would watch him; it made me very emotional.

[@titaniumterminator5281]

I subbed to you cause I’m nice

[@iknownot3336]

Oversharing much, little one? I didn't need to hear about your dad nor care enough to. Begone from my eyes

[@MarxistMomentum]

In the past: I wish I could quit my job and become a KZbinr. Now: I wish I could quit my KZbin career and do something else.

[@darkchaozbringer785]

It's not "every" KZbinr, but rather only the ones that have already made it that are quitting. For those that have either made more money than any god or more than enough to live comfortably for the rest of their lives, it's pretty understandable. Simply put, they do so, because they are in a position where they can. KZbin, regardless of the initial passion many begin with, is still a job. Much like any job, it sucks at some point at a consistent basis.

[@Kalitayy]

Exactly. I don't understand why people think KZbinrs quit because YT doesn't pay them enough. It's just simply because they have made it. They have reached their goals, they are multi-millionaires, they've beat the game. Now all that's left is to step back and chill in a mansion or on a yacht. They're earned it.

[@bunnywar]

Some people are really dilutional about how much YT pays. There's a lucky few that make good money but not from YT directly and YT has been paying less and less. They've already taken chances with pretending they own the videos and now their parent company is developing products to replace people completely without paying any for the videos they're using for product development.

[@aixenaixen8106]

Matpat quitted too :(

[@KarenFoo]

Especially as a finance youtuber, i have been wanting to quit this one to focus on my sanrio and study channel. It's like no matter what i do, people still choose to follow get rich quick gurus despite me having a finance degree and background while most of them don't... and after 7 years i'm very tired of being a finance guru/youtuber and just want to leave it all. BTW your animation is cute

[@aaronTGP_3756]

Part of the problem is KZbin's refusal to notify subscribers about videos. The bell has to be tapped to get frequent notifications (which you'd think should be the whole point of being a subscriber). The algorithm also has the issue of constantly recommending videos to videos a viewer has recently seen.

[@sdfxcvblank5756]

the algorythem has shit it self, it refuses to recomend music the right way and it either like you said re-recomends shit you seen or vids you clicked off on purpouse or shit your just not into

[@backlogbuddies]

I've just been using don't recommend channel and my feed is getting better. All those clip channels are gone

[@SEEYAIAYE]

They never bothered to fix the random unsubscribe bug either did they?

[@backlogbuddies]

@@SEEYAIAYE Not a bug. If you don't interact with a creator or are deemed a bot KZbin will unsub you from creators.

[@Somespideronline]

​@@backlogbuddies wait what??!!

[@thebigblox4297]

youtube punishes creativity and encourages garbage, sometimes it also shows complicity in crimes (sniperwolf)

[@gekkkoincroe]

I have never gotten sniperwolf channel , does she have a yt ? Well anyways my point is you get what you watch .

[@thebigblox4297]

@@gekkkoincroe i don't really understand what you're trying to say, either i'm being stupid or there's a miscommunication

[@Lernos1]

@@gekkkoincroe It doesn't matter that you don't watch her, it's completely irrelevant to this discussion. She's popular (most garbage content is) and is thus adored by the KZbin execs who were all too happy to give her barely a slap on the wrist for doxxing Jacksfilms, which is a crime. We don't even care she's making garbage content anymore. She committed a crime against a fellow youtuber and KZbin just said "meh".

[@balazsdocs8897]

@@Lernos1 Come to think of it, the SSSniperwolf situation might also be a major reason for KZbinrs leaving KZbin or quitting KZbin full-time.

[@dannytoons]

KZbin now took the fun of creating content in the first place, I want to come back and make stuff I love but it’s too hard. Still glad to see you still making content after all these years :)

[@Bullminator]

There is a way to make this work without giving youtube anything. Simply host your own server where people can see your videos and use your video channel to tell people to get there. And dont forget a donation button on your site.

[@backlogbuddies]

Then you're reliant on Google's seo, which is worse. My website has fallen in views because of Google's seo bs.

[@kawsakiTV]

Been happening to artists on Spotify on Instagram for years. Now it's finally reached the KZbinr.

[@Boxfan-wf4hz]

Another reason I think could be cancel culture. It's gotten to the point where some rando on Twitter can accuse you of (p-word), everyone automatically believes them and destroys your career and reputation. It also doesn't help that KZbin promotes channels that repeat these allegations and harassing people. Being a content creator/e-celeb is not a secure position anymore.

[@R15Sammy]

It kinda feels like a coincidence more than anything. Like, those 5 examples (Tom, Meat Canyon, Joel, Seth, Antpo) all had a changeup for completely different reasons. If anything Joel Haver is making more stuff then ever before

[@burgermind802]

burnout is a consistent reason

[@R15Sammy]

@@burgermind802 That's kind of reductive. Joel's reason was he wasn't challenged by his format and wanted to do something more ambitious. Hunter's was that he wasn't really passionate about the subjects he was making cartoons about and wanted to change it up. Tom Scott and Anthpo had specific long term goals that they had finally met. And Seth Everman just wanted to do something different.

[@minticecream5749]

I think the real reason (or at least part of the reason) is that it's January, which means it's A. a new year and people are reflecting on what they want from life and B. that January's just historically just not a very good month for youtubers, as a lot of companies tend to a expend a lot of January's marketing budget in December for the holidays. Because of that it's a good time to take a break or quit youtube as you'll usually get a revenue boost in December, as companies spend more on ads and people are on holiday and thus watching more, and a revenue drop in January, as companies spend less on ads.

[@alexjensen9490]

In the span of today, a gaming KZbinr I follow named Moo Snuckel quit KZbin and left the internet to detach and have a “real job” A zoo owning youtuber I follow named Brian Barczyk quit because his disease went terminal. And a game dev I follow (name is in a different language my keyboard can’t type) abandoned a passion project along with their channel earlier this day. WHY THE HELL DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING DURING BREAKS AND NOT DURING NORMAL TIMES?!

[@Cavemanner]

Aw, man, that sucks to hear about Brian! I get fed his shorts all the time but never really stopped to check out his channel so I wouldn't have known. I didn't even realize he was sick. Hope he's able to live comfortably in the time he has left.

[@zid9611]

Break give them time to reflect. And choice what to do. That say. If your boy is dieing. Ya I can see why he quit. Job isn't worth it

[@TheReflecter]

Truth is they don't want to make a ton of short content that leaves them running on the hamster wheel. They want to dedicate their time to real projects that could actually make an impact on their careers.

[@dustytailstudios]

Not to mention, people are oddly toxic to the point of chasing away creators to the point they fear for them and their families lives. Jocat is completely quitting youtube because haters doxxed him and his family and sent death threats...over a harmless animation he made 2 yesrs ago

[@Gamertrip4life]

You'll never believe what just happened

[@The.Nasty.]

I’ve noticed a ton of KZbinrs I’ve been subbed to for years have either 1) wound down the content to bi-weekly uploads 2) switched to uploading long form content a couple times a year, or 3) stopped uploading completely save for a random do nothing drop once every couple of years/months.

[@Powdumper09]

If KZbin wants more KZbinrs to stop quitting they got to do better and give them life time supply of Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

[@LetsGoChaseThatTrain]

That would be a start.

[@wavetro]

as someone who quit and unquit KZbin several times, I think the takeaway here is that this site needs to stay as just a hobby for some people instead of relying on it for rent money. also upload schedules work well for starting out, but every KZbinr needs to abandon it eventually to stay sane in the long run

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

KZbin is at best some passive income not a full time job.

[@okieze]

oh hey, i used to love your stickman stuff back in the day xd

[@out_of_the_BOX]

Your the "when you stub your toe" frog guy??? I've seen that weird frog on my fyp so many times before

[@ourantoastclub]

Bro you're one of my favorite creators of all time. Much respect man.

[@ralphdary7050]

That'll work. I can make some extra money but certainly not enough for other things.

[@MarcusPratt-w3j]

I'm going to miss Joel and Tom's weekly content, but I understand why they are making the change. Good for them, but their work will be missed (by me).

[@xurpio]

This aged like fine wine

[@Spolchen]

It’s difficult to transition from hobby to full time. Suddenly, the thing you have done for fun turns into a full-blown business. Also important to note these people already made their money and thus don’t have any incentive to go hustler mode any further.

[@Bullminator]

You simply move the hobby into other industry and you get actuly paid for the work you love doing.

[@backlogbuddies]

Yeah try to use KZbin as a portfolio piece

[@sonicjhiq]

I will be honest I'm kind of scared how many more youtubers I have watched might just go in the near future

[@CarterTheGinger]

I think Joel Haver is doing that approach because he might be looking at KZbin as some sort of portfolio or compiling his projects for which he can look back on and be proud of, rather than looking at it like a business model.

[@ToxicCatt-y7c]

It’s a mixture of wanting to spend time with friends and family outside of KZbin, wanting to do other things in life besides sit in front of a screen for hours, reading comments, editing videos, etc for over a decade. and just being fed up and tired of KZbin’s BS imho.

[@koolerpure]

ive been on youtube since the start, this cycle of creators leaving is just another stress test on youtube as a platforum. only time will tell if new creators that dont suck can rise to the top and replace the channels we are losing

[@hyrulehistorian2317]

Got this in my recommended a couple hours after MatPat posted “Goodbye Internet”

[@MAWK3]

My first year on YT taught me you gotta treat it like a side dish to a meal and not the full course.

[@ToothpasteJuice]

MATPAT/GAME THEORIST JUST ANNOUNCED HE'S LEAVING KZbin.

[@sammie_dot7542]

Who knew 4 days later matpat would quit to…

[@twobrosincorporated]

Well, this was a punch in the gut after Matpat quit. Farewell, theory man.

[@Logicall_]

Just a small tip, not a full time youtuber (yet) but I would say, before you go all in, SAVE YOUR MONEY! Have some money that you saved up before hand that way you won’t have to worry to much about views.

[@gbr4732]

Damn the video aged really well

[@Starbright_]

And now MatPat just quit too😭

[@bestgames64]

We will miss all of these people, for me especially matpat

[@fiofiofioletta1898]

I wish KZbin had competition. They’d treat their creators better then

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

Personally, my main problem with KZbin is that your audience can be so impatient, that if you spend the necessary amount of time on a video then upload it, not many people are going to watch it, because you took too long and they forgot about you, but if you just try to upload as much videos as possible every week or so, your content's quality becomes very poor. So I don't know, maybe it's just me who's slow with making videos. *And the KZbin algorithm is a pain.*

[@symptomofsouls]

The only way to succeed on social media now is either to be a literal corporation or be so different from everyone else that you can't be replicated You gotta plan all the stuff out before you even turn on the camera, if I ever decide to create content again that will be what I do, and it will probably be on some other site.

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

@@symptomofsouls Thank you. I'll try that.

[@backlogbuddies]

The daily uploaders and constant uploaders have put a curse on those who spend time trying to innovate

[@LetsGoChaseThatTrain]

Amen.

[@milodoesgaming1203]

People here cause of matpat>>>>>>

[@BrosManIsMan]

Why is everyone quitting. 😢

[@Thecatontheinternet749]

I think i know why many KZbinrs are quitting because of KZbin is getting worse and there is many content farms that make billions of dollars for profit and youtube nowadays feels like cooperate

[@PraxisPrepper]

I feel it too. On my channel I'm even being told rather frequently by my subscribers that KZbin has been automatically unsubscribing them without their knowledge. They find one of my videos and they're like, "WOW, I was so glad to see that you're back making videos, but then I looked and saw that you never stopped, KZbin just unsubbed me without my knowing. Glad to be back!" I get that all the time. I have NO IDEA why doing things like this helps KZbins bottom line, but I presume it must because they're doing it all the time to me and a few others I know of too.

[@MasterEth]

there's defiantly been a shift in mindset over the past year. For me, I switched from making monthly videos to documentaries that take months to make, and that's just more satisfying for me.

[@mrkebab9051]

Ofc this shows up on my recommendation after seeing MatPat's video

[@BrunoLate98]

First I saw Tom Scott… now Game Theory 10 minutes ago

[@mattmojo105]

I didn't realize a lot of people were quitting! Very interesting video though. I didn't know you went full time for a while that's cool. Also at 3:01 I'd hire you. 😆

[@oofer_gamer_life3080]

Man when i heard matpat was quitting, i knew right there, youtube is going to change.

[@raptormaverick4774]

It’s not just trying to keep up with whatever the algorithm likes, and what the fans want, it’s also trying to keep up with yourself. Even if you are the most successful KZbinr ever, you still need some time for your body to rest and heal. I’m hoping that the algorithm is fixed in the future that way we don’t have to lose sleep, relationships, and the things life throws at us, just so we can make a living and force ourselves to meet expectations or follow the metas.

[@ethancollins6775]

Matpat just said goodbye to everyone.

[@Noah_Levy]

Been on the site since 2007/2008, back when people just did it for fun, when the idea of making money off it was unheard of. I've seen the burnout over and over. When will people learn YT is not to be trusted and you should only make stuff for fun?

[@Donmcwinkler]

Mattpat and moo now too 😢

[@Justanotherpersonontheinternet]

The fact that this video got recommended to me after finding out about MatPat makes me want to cry

[@aidanstraub]

Goodbye matpat

[@krider9942]

Hits different because matpat also is quitting

[@MMRBKane]

And now Matpat is gone...

[@Thescribbley]

This is bullshit

[@ellanimation816]

@@Thescribbleynope it’s real

[@chainmengaming]

I haven't exactly thought about quitting, but I'm on a hiatus until I can get proper recording software to make better videos. I don't even think of KZbin as a career of mine.

[@randomuser5001]

You're just uploading videos for fun. That's different. People just upload Daily or try to edit make good videos for the algorithm. Then thats kinda trying to have it as your job and need alot of subs

[@CSGhostAnimation]

Gonna be honest, I've seen like 3 goodbye videos on a single channel

[@ElFidelio55]

Also matpat just recently quit:((

[@funrun699]

You jinx it Mattpat is leaving too 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@grunchYT]

Watching this after the MatPat video

[@ashtonfisher-tg3mz]

it got posted 30 minutes ago, you said this 27 minutes ago, you didn't watch the matpat video. Go watch it.

[@grunchYT]

@@ashtonfisher-tg3mz bruh shut up 🤡

[@moneyman782]

3:30 Dude you make my friends and I laugh so hard. I'll throw some money your way if it means we keep getting this kind of content. Thanks for always helping us get a big laugh!

[@Pikastation28]

Everything you said is very true and on point like KZbin really ain't how it use to because back then you would have fun making videos that you want and didn't worry about anything. But now it got to the point where a lot of things are unfair and KZbin really doesn't care whenever we take a break or tell them the problems that going on in this platform. So I don't blame them and I hope for the best for them.

[@sneakyskunk1]

I remember when people used to quit their jobs to do KZbin. Now people quit their KZbin jobs. The times, they are a' changing.

[@Kalitayy]

Not really, people quit their jobs to do KZbin because normal jobs are killing them. Now, KZbinrs quit KZbin because they have made it. It's just different stages of life. Once your business is successful and you make billions of dollars, why would you wanna continue working?

[@unstoppablegaming503]

Mattpat just quit 😢

[@naoki-kashima2635]

The fact matpat quit a few days after this is crazy

[@Katy133]

This is from a way more passionate perspective than the business or money side of it, but here are my thoughts that I'd like to add: From my experience making art in various mediums, I've found that the idea of reaching a mastery (or confidence) in something (a technique or medium) and then doing it over and over for a long time doesn't have you staying the same like I imagine people assume it will. What instead happens is that you stagnate. (read as: You don't "stay the same," you stagnate.) Artists enjoy learning and growing, and if their current medium isn't engaging them anymore, then switching to a new medium can allow them to learn a whole new array of skills from the beginning again. And it's that process that artists can find joy in.

[@LetsGoChaseThatTrain]

I agree with you up to a point, but I think that in the three years since this channel has gone live, the quality of my videos has improved noticeably.

[@Katy133]

@@LetsGoChaseThatTrain Oh yes. I didn't mean in terms of your channel, just any channel. And in the sense of the feeling of not growing, rather than what amount of time passes, that can feel disheartening. Artists learn and grow at different speeds, and I don't think it should be treated like a race or a contest. If a creator spends years honing in on a subject, and they enjoy it and feel that they've improved in that time, then that's not stagnation. That's finding value and joy in the process. I hope you continue to find happiness in your projects the same way it brings happiness to the people who see it.

[@gorboobus9292]

0:21 MC didn’t quit the main channel, he’s spending more time on his animations while still working on his second channel

[@gamagames4311]

Now matpat

[@Dispy_]

now matt pat

[@bioscar4998]

When I get more into YT, I intend on just uploading to make people happy, whether the videos will do well or not. It's for those who deserve to be entertained when big people step down for specific stuff.

[@LetsGoChaseThatTrain]

But when they don't get enough views, I'm not making enough people happy. :(

[@random0andmorerandom139]

If he waited a little bit longer Then he could’ve included Matt Patt, stepping down From his leader ship position

[@Domsain]

MeatCanyon, Tom Scott, Joel-Haver, Moo Snuckel, Matpat. Damn..

[@troxistmajin8740]

foreshadowed MatPat's retirement announcement