Why Is Everyone Buying This CPU? - Ryzen 7 7800X3D

[@Lemoncit0]

AMD has been at the top for years but the Steam Survey won't change that much because there's millions of old machines that might only get replaced every 5-10 years

[@Tranquillow2]

Then, there are laptops, which Intel still has a foothold for some reason

[@mastroitek]

Indeed. Like my second machine has a 7700k and it will stay so for another half decade at minimum.

[@sporemaster97]

@@Tranquillow2 AMD powered laptops are slowly gaining ground

[@chadbizeau5997]

​@@Tranquillow2supply. AMD aren't able to supply enough chips because TSMC

[@nupagagyi]

Also people who upgrade from 1600 to 5600, or am5.

[@mechtechpotato4249]

My guess is the intel dominance on the steam hardware survey is old systems and laptops.

[@t.r.2283]

Yes. I don't see a reason to upgrade.

[@iHazMuffinz]

true but give milionaire linus a break, he sounds more and more out of touch with how much normal people actually upgrade and/or can afford.

[@michaelbong8509]

I can attest to that. I’m still using my 7 year old gaming laptop intel core i5 that I’ve had since grade 7

[@corey2232]

Which is why I roll my eyes when people say "the majority of gamers are still gaming at 1080p according to the Steam Survey!" Sure, if you account for alllllllll the old systems & budget laptops, and people who login once a year or play a single old game. But if you could isolate the actual daily/frequent users who buy & play new games consistently, I highly doubt the majority are still at 1080p.

[@IRaoulDuke]

AMD does own the gaming console market also.

[@ryant2568]

The difference in the steam numbers is because a majority of people buy pre-builds and pre-builds from the big OEM's tend to use Intel.

[@drueckglueck9918]

No not true, stop spreading lies. Fyi I have reported your comment, for spam

[@goldium]

@@drueckglueck9918 ?

[@dudechillguy842]

@@drueckglueck9918 dude is delusional lmao

[@shelf7641]

@@drueckglueck9918 what 💀

[@MuahMan]

@@drueckglueck9918 Kamala voter?

[@pouriyamehr]

The 7800X3D even hit €329 before the 9800X3D launched where I live; now it starts at €499.

[@ArtisChronicles]

Seems like someone trying to clear some stock before the new product launched lol

[@muckelchen7327]

Got mine for 350€ back in march. It's insane how expensive it got in just a few months.

[@DerSattler]

i paid 355€ in April for my 7800x3d

[@worldzealot]

I got my 7800X3D about 2 weeks before they announced the 9800X3D for $325.00 US. Guess i got it before everyone started raising the price. I did get it in a bundle from Microcenter and i actually got it 1 day before it completely sold out. Upgraded from a 3700X which is still very good and never had any issues but the 7800X3D is by far better for gaming. Plus i gave my 3700X and 2080 Super to my 9 year old Nephew which will be good enough for 5-10 years especially for the games he currently plays.

[@drasticscene]

7800X3D at 15th sep 2024 - €414. less than ~1month later it went up to 430-€450 and nowadays it's at 490-€513.. while 9800X3D starting at €560 .

[@BBROPHOTO]

It's purely because of the 7700K / 1080Ti era. It's still good enough for 99% of 1080P gaming... and thus look at what the average res / refresh rate is on Steam. I'm aware it's obviously influenced by every computer with Steam (like low end notebooks at 15 year old computers)

[@cestus4186]

It’s true I just last week replaced my old intel 1080 system

[@TheThirdTwin]

I still have a 7700k so I can at least vouch for that.

[@lsq7833]

I only replaced my 5820k system with a 7800X3D a few weeks ago. Most people's CPU's last them at least 4 or 5 years... if not close to 10 years like me.

[@sporemaster97]

I'm still running my R5 1600 (not f) from almost the same time as the 7700k. Those 1080s definitely swaying the GPU side, but AMD has been common since the same time as the 7700k (January '17 for 7700k, April '17 for R5 1600)

[@EruCannotPass]

I'm still rocking a 6700k in my old computer that my wife uses now. Current build has a 13700k but I wish I had gone AMD instead.

[@Thomas_Meier93]

It's crazy that the old AM4 Plattform just won't die

[@dragonm4364]

I just recently invested more into the AM4 platform simply because the AM5 is just still too expensive.. My guess is by the time it becomes more affordable it will be passed 2027 which means it will lost likely no longer have support..

[@kasadam85]

​@@dragonm4364I'm thinking of doing the exact same thing, I'll save around 250-300 dollars building a new PC on AM 4 platform as opposed to AM 5 and all that money can instead go into a better GPU. I don't care about upgradability, I don't build a PC to upgrade it 2-3 years later, it'll sit around 4-5 years at the very least.

[@baconfacegamer792]

@@dragonm4364It’s not even that expensive. Wdym?

[@nickierv13]

@@kasadam85 It depends a lot on what you play, but I have found CPUs age a lot better than GPUs. I'm still running 5th gen (granted HEDT so I have cores and near modern cache) but I'm still mostly fine as long as I'm not running anything too new. Sure trying to run 4k (1080Tis ftw!) and 60Hz displays probably have a sizeable impact into that, but I play Factorio (and that will max out a 9800X3D). Not bad for 9 years old. 5700X3D will probably still be playable in 7-8 years.

[@charlesscholton5252]

I have been upgrading my AM4 rig and my AM3+ rig. I am waiting for AM6 to hit so I can do an AM5 build next when prices are down. I know you may be laughing at the AM3+ FX 8350 but the ASRock motherboard I have had some more modern features like an M.2. I just moved a 2TB Gen 3 NVMe drive into it, when I upgraded my AM4 rigs memory. That now has 8TB of dual WD Black 4TB NVMe in it. I am having a hard time fully justifying building an AM5 rig at the moment, since all kinds of new things are coming out. PCIe 5 and wanting to see what video cards come out which are PCIe 5 as well.

[@ChIMeRaTeX]

This blackfriday I upgraded my old AM4 build from a R5 2600X + GTX 1060 6GB to a 5700X3D + RX 7900XT, and I haven't regretted staying on AM4 and spending more on the GPU a single second so far.

[@ramal5708]

Same but I got myself 4070 ti super instead

[@Actveable]

5700X3D enjoyer here aswell

[@macblink]

@@ChIMeRaTeX yoo RX 7900XT what a BEAST of a gpu 👍🏻

[@ChIMeRaTeX]

@@macblink Yeah, managed to grab one for just over $600, paid $190 for the 5700X3D , the rest of my ~$1000-1100 budget went to a new PSU, case (+ some fans) and a new cooler. VERY happy with the upgrade.

[@J3f3R20n]

I got a 5700x3d instead of an am5 chip because even thou i also have to change the mobo for that 5700x3d, at least i get to keep using the same ram i have right since i would be able to buy new ddr5 memories anyway and the prices are fairly cheaper compared to am5/ddr5 parts. Also could save a few bucks for a better gpu down the line.

[@Scufflord]

For a $1000 budget I was able to grab a 7600x processor, 32GB of RAM, a motherboard, and a XFX Merc 319 7800XT GPU. These mid-end chips aren't as "mid" as most people would assume. This rig is INSANE now compared to my old one. Definitely don't sleep on the mid-range chips y'all

[@pulsed13]

In my case I got a 7600 instead, because that meant I got to have a lot of storage space, especially now at a time where games would rather be >100GB than

[@someperson1829]

@@pulsed13 You can thank 4K support for the games being 100+ GB. Most of the space are 4K resources. Take Space Marine for example: 160 GB overall, 91.5 GB of which is a 4K pack. Or any Skyrim texture mod: the difference of size between 2K and 4K textures is isnane.

[@Mr4Goosey]

For real. CPU bottlenecks are so rare for most gamers at this point - and if you do regularly play one of the rare CPU-bound titles, you'll know. Lots of people around me on second gen Ryzen are looking for upgrades right now, and I'm pretty much across the board pointing them to the 5700X3D. It's just wild value, letting them get years extra out of their current platform.

[@radiglaz]

Just be careful with that XFX GPU, I've bought from them twice and it always failed after a couple weeks. I changed to sapphire and it's been smooth sailing.

[@Lycosidy]

@@Mr4Goosey Why not the 5800x3d?

[@jamesdietrich7378]

I went with the 7700X for basically the exact reasons you said in the video - paired with a 7800xt, I’m only missing out on a few frames compared to a 7800x3d at 1440p and I got it for a steal at $220 in a microcenter bundle. This allowed me to build an awesome little ITX rig for around $1400 which can play almost any game I play at 1440p ultra. No regrets at all.

[@ZeroUm_]

5800X3D owners are only going to change when the second CPU in AM6 launches. It's that amazing.

[@BeavisVolg]

well im on a 5700X3D that I got for Black Friday coming off a R5 3600 and I think I'll change when AM6 launches because AM5 will drop in price and I will be able to rebuild a pc with the higher end components of the AM5 socket which seems like it works the best moneywise to do. I could've upgraded to AM5 this black friday but it would've cost me at the very least 300-400 usd more so I kept it AM4 until AM5 becomes current AM4 price. I decided to use the AM5 upgrade money on a RX 7800XT since the 3060 12gb OC that im using now is not good for my 1440p 144hz monitors

[@EkiToji]

I upgraded to a 5600 from a 1600 and was tempted to get the 5800X3D instead but by that point my motherboard was already old enough already. It was a nice little stopgap measure of an upgrade but within the next year I'll likely go to a 9800X3D mostly to get more and faster M.2 slots. Plus that whole USB-C thing.

[@SWOTHDRA]

Truth

[@ShirosCh]

Well, I temporarily upgraded my 3600x to 5700x3d so cpu can handle my new 4080s, but thinking of moving on am5 cuz of new usb4 and pcie 5. (I don't think I will upgrade gpu in 3-4 years for sure).

[@GiulianoMazzina]

I have a 5800x and that is actually my intent. AM6 after the growing pains.

[@12_Feet_Up]

Most consumers don't build their own PCs. Looking at which CPUs are selling on Amazon doesn't tell us which CPUs are going into all those prebuilt PCs

[@jonhattanrai]

And the biggest buyers are companies, and they buy directly from a sales person from the brand instead of Amazon 😅

[@SWOTHDRA]

Truth

[@o0shad0oo]

Yup, and Intel is doing a bang-up job marketing to commercial PC producers. Roughly 2/3 of prebuilt gaming PCs I'm seeing use Intel (and often not great Intel CPUs either).

[@Play-On7]

But... business PCs don't game, so how do they end up on the steam survey?

[@o0shad0oo]

@@Play-On7 Who said business PCs? There are plenty of mediocre prebuilts marketed as "gaming PCs" and sold for elevated prices.

[@ROBLOXTHANOS]

This guy will probably give tech tips until he inevitably merges with the tech he is so familiar with.

[@kryrins]

?

[@ROBLOXTHANOS]

@ Merging with technology means directly connecting pieces of technology with the human body. A bionic eye is a good example, or connecting electronics like computers directly to the brain or Central Nervous System, to enhance cognitive functions. Think of a cyborg; that is a biological creature thoroughly merged with technology.

[@Greenious]

Like some meat canyon episode, right?

[@Siroitin]

He already got "merged" too close to the companies and got cancelled but got back again because who cares? He has nice face and voice

[@ROBLOXTHANOS]

@ I don’t think you understand my joke.

[@QuickQuips]

Yeah. It's remarkable how nice the 3d cache improved things. Came from a 1700.

[@matthewcane0]

@@QuickQuips I just upgraded from a 1600 to a 5700X3D, the difference is incredible

[@MeaadTheSavage]

Which 3D chip did you pick up? @QuickQuips

[@quisqueyanguy120]

Same here.

[@hughjassstudios9688]

It's also the speed boost. I came from a 2950x to a 7950x and got double the single core performance with a smaller cooler

[@zee-fr5kw]

i downgraded from a 3d cache to more cores because the 3d cache doesn't really do all that much tbh, all modern chips are just good

[@Jzwiz]

Never forget folks, if you live in the us and have a microcenter by you, the cpu will be even cheaper. At one point in bundles the 7800x3d was like $200

[@cz5836]

Only a handful of cities have one, so this is mostly non advice for the majority. Respectfully, speaking.

[@tancar2004]

And just checking my local microcenter. They have the 9800x3d in stock. Though they don't have a bundle for it. They do have a 7800x3d bundle for $600

[@Kingdom533]

@@tancar2004 Not online, but they do offer 9800x3D bundle in-store (at least my nearest one did) with either a B650 or X670E MB + FlareX-6000 mem.

[@jackbro655]

Yeah, i don't but i think Micro Center has an exclusive r5 5600x3d and it performs amazingly.

[@Jzwiz]

@@cz5836 it wasnt intended for the majority, it was intended for the few americans in reach of one.

[@CCitis]

Went from a Ryzen 5 3600 to a 5700X3d on Black Friday. Nice little bump, and should get me through for another few years.

[@wow-jx3ti]

@@CCitis can you feel a difference without looking at the numbers

[@sintheticsounds1686]

Nice. Fixing to go from 3700x to 5700x3d. Cheap upgrade to carry me through a couple more years. Have never cpu swapped so am a little nervous

[@Packman332]

After watching this video I'm considering the same. $220 for the 5700x3d, while the 5700x is $150. Debating what would be more worth it. I play some games, but nothing too crazy or modern to really push the system. Only have a 2060 super anyway. Mainly work a lot in Orca and Fusion360. I don't plan to water cool, so not sure if the tdp increase is worth it. I guess I could always run in eco mode or tone down the performance while not gaming to keep it more energy efficient.

[@CCitis]

@@wow-jx3ti Yes, for sure. Mostly play flight sims, so my GPU limits me (3080) but in RDR and other games it is killing it. And really a cheap fairly future proof AM4 upgrade.

[@CCitis]

@@sintheticsounds1686 Super easy. So many online vids will show you. You will be fine. Make sure you have a good cooler.

[@qqwp3656]

I got a 5800X3D a few months back when it was still on shelves and don't plan on upgrading for at least another 3 years. The AM4 platform longetivity is insane. Upgraded from an R5 3600.

[@lizar1337]

Did the same its night and day differnce

[@MatunS]

Same exact upgrade here. I have excellent performance and don't think about upgrading for few years.

[@Irreluhvant]

same this is the way especially if u have a 4k 240hz monitor, gpu bound for life

[@jako997]

3 years? Lmao that CPU is so good it might last you 5+ years . I got one and don't plan to upgrade until like AM6

[@kawaiikeyboards]

the fact that the AM5 motherboards are still pricey and you are forced to use DDR5 rams is a hard pill to swallow. At least older systems are getting cheaper while not getting too outdated

[@jajssblue]

Little sibling effect. Lots of hand me downs and secondary market entry level systems.

[@EricJW]

Yep, still have PCs dating from 2011, 2013, and 2015 active in my circle of friends/relatives and pushing averages back. I know because a lot of their parts are my hand me downs.

[@particle_wave7614]

No, even last quarter, Intel’s market share was over 70%. AMD has never outsold Intel, despite everyone acting like Intel is going bankrupt. AMD is still the massive underdog. Intel’s revenue is 2 or 3 times more than AMD’s

[@Ferrari255GTO]

​@@EricJW about two years ago i was running a RX580 with an i5 7600k, and i've just recently swapped my CPU for a Ryzen 5 5600X and a year ago the RX580 for a 2080

[@EricJW]

@@particle_wave7614 That's probably true if you include corporate markets, but this whole video and the Steam Hardware Survey aren't about them. In the space Steam represents, AMD has been outselling Intel overall since 2018 or so. You need to look at the market share rates of change, not the total percentages. AMD has gone from less than 10% to 35%. That 25% market capture could only happen if the rate of new AMD CPUs entering the market was higher than the rate of new Intel CPUs entering the market.

[@EricJW]

@@Ferrari255GTO Nice! I'm personally running a 5800X3D and a 7900 XTX. I previously wouldn't go for GPUs that high, but I really wanted the 24GB VRAM for projects, and Nvidia's decent options for that cost way more.

[@skak3000]

I got a Ryzen 7900 because of the 65W. Saving money over time on power and it's going to run my computer the next 10 years. Only GPU, RAM, SSD upgrade the next 10 years. 🤷‍♂️

[@kigasdj2]

Lol 65w 🤣 do you know that 65w is base power draw, then CPU is pushed to like 50% of it's capabilities. 7900 would run around 140w pushed to 100%, people and their stupid marketing believes 🤣

[@SpFres1]

You can go into the bios and just enable PBO. That's the kind of build I built to a friend, if you don't care about the sound of a jet fighter that the wraith prism will make when you set it to High fan rpm, plus the 95°C at nearly 140w the cooler is able to dissipate (which is perfectly normal for 24/7 use as far as AMD is concerned), there is absolutely no reason to buy an X processor. Great build at a great price you built there !

[@kigasdj2]

​​@@Josh_728 Low power draw matters but for completely different reasons. I agree with you, energy savings should not be major cause, but power draw matters for cooling. Literally if you own any i9 Intel latest CPU's you are fucked. You cannot cool them properly, they throttle like crazy, meaning you lose performance, because they draw too much power and there is no proper cooling system to handle them, unless you buy Full tower cases with 10 fans and and AIO of 420mm radiator and when still it will reach 100 degrees and probably throttle after 30 minutes of heavy use. In other hand there is no such problems with AMD. You buy top of the line AMD CPU you push it to the max it draws like 280w meaning you can still use mid tower case 360mm radiator and still push CPU to the max without throttle. Now you know why Intel's sucks, not only because of their dying CPU's but also because it is impossible to cool them and use to its limits.

[@haniyas-ip8ph]

amd is the worst if you want to save power they have the highest idle power 20-40w meanwhile intel 10-15w and it's by design of their cpu cant be fixed

[@haniyas-ip8ph]

@ was mentioning op that mentioned saving power to tell him he is not saving power if he use amd on idle

[@BigDrewski1000]

Let's be real here. Zen 3 CPU's are goated. They're great value for the buck with great performance & none of the drawbacks of the earlier Zen generations.

[@overlord10104]

Zen 3 without drowbacks? Funny. 1900MHz IF and traditionally slow memory subsystem. They even made a X3D version just to address this issue. BTW R7 5800X user here. It's great price to perfomance wise. But lets be real

[@raediantz3192]

I quite literally bought a 5700X3D earlier this week to keep my AM4 system chugging along. It's replacing a 2700X. I only game at 1080p (until my monitor dies at least...), and upgrading to a whole new PC would be pretty pointless.

[@barneyklingenberg4078]

You are set for 4 more years. And then whatever happens right?

[@nordvestgaming1238]

Planning on doing the same thing once next gen GPU's start releasing. My 2700X and 2070S have served me well for the past 4.5ish years but they are starting to show their age, especially in newer titles at 1440p.

[@Yataro79]

I did the exact same thing a week ago. And I couldn't be happier with the result :-)

[@kmilli0313]

Same but I just swapped out from a 1600af which was really struggling these days lol and I’m also on 1080 and still rocking my 1660s for now but that cpu upgrade has made an incredible difference

[@lordcorgi6481]

I have a computer with a Ryzen 1800x and it still runs great and I’ve never had any problems. Overclocked since day 1!

[@unknownhours]

I'm upgrading from the 2700x to the 5700x3D for to get that sweet reBAR.

[@selim_ct]

Everyone should want a good and balanced competition between AMD and intel. The only way to drive innovation and actually give these giant corporations a reason to try to cater to their customers is for there to be a viable alternative.

[@fujinshu]

And if that can’t happen, make that happen with regulation.

[@danortiz]

You might not be old enough but AMD had unlockable cores on CPUs

[@fujinshu]

@@danortiz And Intel was bigger than AMD anyway because of collusion with Microsoft and pretty much every Windows OEM at the time. Which the EU did sue over, but then Intel just had to pay the cost of doing business and their karma has come back to bite them in the ass.

[@IdeasAreBulletproof]

Intel just doesn't want to be the Viable Alternative though

[@BladeEXE67]

I wish Intel would just take the L and lower their prices, I have been on team blue for forever and their chips aren't bad (usually) and the integrated graphics are way better and easier available than AMD's. But the price is just too compelling to switch, though upgrading nowadays is not that important, nobody really needs a top of the line CPU, GPU, fast RAM and storage are more important.

[@TAINCER_]

I’m someone from that Intel chart. Been on 6th gen intel for a while now, considered upgrading some times now, but it’s just not worth it. All modern games I play (real 3d games, and not LoL, etc) are giving me 100+ frames, which is still plenty for me. Windows 11 also works great on it. (Slightly overclocked)

[@jackbro655]

Fair enough but I'm curious what do you usually play?

[@HardWhereHero]

My kiddo runs my old 7700K and I can tell you there is a huge difference. If you play over 60 FPS that is. I upgraded to a 12700KF for less than $220 and I love this chip its fuckin fast. I don't care what the AMD guys say, Intel 12th gen is an amazing platform. If Intel didn't try to use silicon from 70 years ago maybe 13th and 14th gen would have been decent.

[@zjunk4877]

@@HardWhereHero 12th gen is hands down the best value you can buy today. Probably why I've built like 5 of them recently. AMD can't even come close to the performance per dollar for gaming or production. Hell, even 13th and 14th gen have seen some solid price cuts and the 14900k is approaching $400, plus the instability issues have been fixed. (I guess that's one upside to 15th gen's release.) The AMD fanboys are just really loud bragging about gaming performance at a resolution no enthusiast plays at with a graphics card no one owns. Ironic all the years AMD fans cried about Intel prices for having the gaming win, but magically it's OK if AMD charges far more for the exact same reason? 🤣 AMD was the value king then. Intel is the value king now.

[@Morrodin-WH40K]

@@HardWhereHero The thing is, yes AMD chips are beating intel however at a certain point it doesn't matter. 200+ frames on a display with 170 hz refresh rate is meaningless... the monitor isn't going to refresh faster magically. On top of that as soon as you value quality of graphics over pure framerate your GPU becomes much more important than your CPU. So yeah, in all fairness to AMD... they are the better option at this moment, however it actually doesn't matter for the average user. Also, the whole Intel is bad vibe on KZbin is overdramatization. Yes, Intel dropped the ball with 13th and 14th gen I7/I9 CPUs. The issue is also resolved by now. On top of that 12th gen, like what you rock, is perfectly fine. Heck I upgraded earlier this year from a 7th gen I7 and the problem of that PC wasn't really the CPU but actually the GPU and the fact it rocked an obsolete HDD instead of SSD.

[@qcsrm4241]

And in my opinion you are better off staying with 6th Gen if that is serving you well. I went from 7th Gen to 13th Gen and I now spend more time trying to manage the horrendously high temperatures, than actually enjoying the performance. most of the time I undervolt the13th Gen CPU to keep its temps below 90C and l end up wondering what's the point in bothering with an undervolted 13th gen compared to a normally running (or even overclocked) 7th Gen giving far better temps. A friend of mine is having the same issues with his newer AMD and missing his old AMD. Though we are both on laptops, maybe PC users can utilize the 13th gens and equivalent AMDs better through more powerful cooling. But the newer CPUs are pain to manage thermally in laptops.

[@haydencf3]

If you live near a microcenter and want a 5700x3d, they sell open box ones for $143. If you check their open box cpu's every day, you should be able to snag one fairly quick, especially since they sell them new for $180. Check the website early in the morning, a few hours before opening, since they update their open box products every day when the store is closed. I hesitated when I wanted to get one and someone else got it. I checked every day and like 3 or 4 days later, they had another one available that I was able to snag.

[@donwanthemagicma]

Crazy thing about that processor as well is if you have a micro center they have the bundle that is literally the same price as the processor by itself and you get a motherboard processor and RAM

[@deauthorsadeptus6920]

If only it wasn't US only thing...

[@bcraftr]

People who got the 7800x3d like a year ago are the real winners

[@BigBoyJay_69]

Fr. I paid $500 for an entire CPU, mobo, and RAM package from MicroCenter. Now $500 is just the chip alone

[@RafaelW8]

I got my 78003xd for 300 euro. Exactly 1 year ago to date. Very happy with the purchase.

[@devindaniell]

🙋🙋🙋 😁

[@vizknight1862]

@@BigBoyJay_69 Same but i really paid 450 for the bundle when it was $399 AT MC.

[@smoothlyrough512]

Got mine in a prebuilt witj 32gb ddr5 RAM and a 4070 super

[@xTheMrGeorge]

I bought my 7800x3D on amazon for $366. That was by far the best investment I have ever made.

[@ClamChowder95]

I scored a 7600x3D on Black Friday. Its nice. Whatever the current x3D chip ends up being down the road will be a valid upgrade path too. Intel has a lot of work to do win me back.

[@zayam5401]

@@ClamChowder95 for how much?

[@ClamChowder95]

@@zayam5401 I got the Microcenter bundle for $400. It's currently $450 unfortunately. The CPU alone is $300. The best route to go is if you are building AM5 for the first time, or you're already on AM5 and can sell the mobo and ram and make back most of the money. If you're on AM4 the 5800x3D competes with the 7600x3D. The big difference with 7600x3D is the increased efficiency at a max power draw of 65 watts. They go back and forth depending on the title. There are good reasons to go ahead and make the jump forward now though, especially if you're concerned about any potential tariffs.

[@ClamChowder95]

@zayam5401 I got the Microcenter bundle for $400. It's currently $450 unfortunately. The CPU alone is $300. The best route to go is if you are building AM5 for the first time, or you're already on AM5 and can sell the mobo and ram and make back most of the money. If you're on AM4 the 5800x3D competes with the 7600x3D. The big difference with 7600x3D is the increased efficiency at a max power draw of 65 watts. They go back and forth depending on the title. There are good reasons to go ahead and make the jump forward now though, especially if you're concerned about potential price hikes with the future presidential administrations coming in.

[@benjiro8793]

Hate to tell ya, but its really overpriced for the fps your getting on that one (if we compare it to the actual MSRP prices of all the CPUs, and not the inflated stuff of now). Those black Friday deals at 289 euro are not really deals. Basically buy a 5700X3D + MB + Cooler, is the same (often cheaper) price, for a slightly lower FPS.

[@AnEagle]

​@@benjiro8793but the fact that you're on a modern platform means that he won't need a new motherboard and ram next upgrade, so we'll see

[@itsmilan4069]

0:56 well people don't usually have a yearly upgrade for cpu like their phone

[@TheLinkhawkins]

Most people do not update their phone year over year.

[@pannekoekcom4147]

These are only desktop CPU's, laptops might still be even playing field

[@hananas2]

No one upgrades their phone yearly anymore. And if they do, they shouldn't anymore.

[@paradebu1603]

we dont upgrade our phone for 3-4 years

[@w0lfgm]

And even a phone is something that lasts 2 years

[@3up3down.]

I ordered my 9800x3d on launch date, and it came last week! :)

[@rivo8774]

As someone who keeps up with what's going on in the CPU world, AMD does look like the most promising buy to me right now. That being said,I bought an i7-9700 five years ago, and upgrading will take a new motherboard and likely new ram as well which makes the process of switching to a new cpu (let alone AMD) a significant hassle. Combine ppl like me with prebuilts and laptops and it makes sense how intel is still on top, though as you said they'll likely continue to bleed in the steamcharts

[@qcsrm4241]

'As someone who keeps up with what's going on in the CPU world' ... exactly !. You "keep up" with it and hence might buy and AMD. But the fact is that a majority of non-technical customers are not that familiar with AMD. I don't think Steam charts are showing old sales. A majority of people simply buy prebuilt machines for gaming and business and I see most of those having intel CPUs. Sales of raw CPUs by private individuals has nothing to do with how most end consumers get the CPUs in their machines (which is usually through OEMs who are still highly skewed towards Intel).

[@Rocky712_]

I mean, you have to upgrade your motherboard anyways from that 9th gen intel if you want to upgrade at all. So there is actually not more hassle between upgrading to a AMD or Intel CPU, it is the same amount of work. The only real viable argument is that you have ddr4 ram already and that intel chips currently support both ddr4 and ddr5, but thats all about it really.

[@DKTD23]

@@rivo8774 I could argue that you could've went 2nd or third gen zen back when you bought that Intel 9th gen and STILL be on AM4 upgrading only your motherboard. Intel created your hassle, that's the irony. They change their socket often.

[@G4naD]

AMD CPU and Intel GPU being the ideal setup, what a time to be alive

[@tygovanbragt]

@@G4naD I've had my i7-8700 with GTX 1060 6gb for a long time but I've upgraded to a Ryzen 5 7600 with the Intel Arc B580, what a time to be alive indeed☺️

[@glaze.2214]

ur wrong amd everything amd cpu and gpu is the meta

[@danr8011]

if you buy 9800X3D, 7800X3D, or even 5700X3D, there is no Intel GPU to make a good match for that

[@glaze.2214]

@@danr8011 why u missing out hella cpus tho💀 like why 5700x3d a d not 5800x3d and why missing out 7700x,7600 eg:?

[@tygovanbragt]

@@danr8011 he is talking about ideal setup, that means that it's also for people who consider budget. That you are able to afford a 9800x3d and a rtx 4090, doesn't mean everyone can and it certainly isn't ideal.

[@bit-map]

I just built my first PC and I decided to go with the AMD Ryzen 7 7700x after having a few computers that were all Intel based. I'm really happy with it.

[@drackar]

Steam hardware survey is based on any system that has a steam account that gets random selected for the thing. Lots of older systems, pre-builts, and laptops. DIY PC having a higher adoption rate of higher end/ non intel/NVIDIA parts isn't going to touch that market, because the _vast majority_ of gamers aren't gaming on DIY hardware. Until Dell and HP start prioritizing better parts instead of their brand partners... well, we're stuck in a monoculture.

[@Abion47]

They should really include a statistic in their detection when a user known for using a particular configuration switches to a new configuration and uses that for a while. This should theoretically detect when people are upgrading their PCs and will give a data point on what they are upgrading to.

[@drackar]

@Abion47 or just bake in a percentage that are pre made and or laptops.

[@Abion47]

@@drackar I think laptops should be an entirely separate category regardless, and how would the Steam hardware survey know whether a system was pre-made or custom built?

[@camdustin9164]

Dell and HP can’t prioritize on “better” parts when AMD doesn’t give them enough parts for supplies. Apparently, OEMs found working with AMD is very frustrating because very often they would only receive the chips they ordered from AMD late. While AMD does send the OEM their orders on time, but often times they are not the full order, the rest of the order will only come later, way passed the deadline agreed between AMD and the OEMs. This is why OEMs only have limited amount of AMD laptop at a time, they don’t get enough chips from AMD to make more laptop. On the other hand, Intel makes sure they send all their chips to the OEMs in time even with discount when they buying them, which is well within Intel’s right to do. If AMD wants to have more of the laptop market, start sending the OEMs their chips on time first.

[@camdustin9164]

Dell and HP can’t prioritize on “better” parts when AMD doesn’t give them enough parts for supplies. Apparently, OEMs found working with AMD is very frustrating because very often they would only receive the chips they ordered from AMD late. While AMD does send the OEM their orders on time, but often times they are not the full order, the rest of the order will only come later, way passed the deadline agreed between AMD and the OEMs. This is why OEMs only have limited amount of AMD laptop at a time, they don’t get enough chips from AMD to make more laptop. On the other hand, Intel makes sure they send all their chips to the OEMs in time even with discount when they buying them, which is well within Intel’s right to do. If AMD wants to have more of the laptop market, start sending the OEMs their chips on time first.

[@TechDunk]

Steam doesn't use sales data tho It uses what people currently use, and many gamers aren't on a brand new PC

[@Jason-fm4my]

There's a few benefits to buying the 200 series over the 100 series. A. If I was buying PCs for an office I'd be attracted to the one that saves money on power costs at a similar output. B. The performance will improve over time as it gets patched. It's not going to lag behind the 100s for long. C. Support for better components. Motherboards with dual thunderbolt 4s, and more PCIE lanes. The higher RAM clocks speeds that are supported. D. Similar performance at lower clocks and voltage usually means more room to overclock.

[@Yamartim]

I built my first pc back in 2020 with an r5 2600, and (thanks to being in Brazil where building PCs is especially expensive) never upgraded it until this last black friday with the 5700x3d when it had a decent price, basically came at the perfect timing for me and I expect to be using it for at least 5 or so more years

[@robinutsogn3903]

I just watched The Yards Podcast with Linus, and I have to say I really appreciate you continuing to make videos. I also really enjoy how transparent and open you are about everything-it adds so much to the content and truly reflects your personality. I hope everything is going great. I'm not a KZbinr myself, so I can’t fully understand the stress and challenges you face, but I know it’s not easy. I’d say being a KZbinr is a lot harder than a typical job, but when it works out, it must be incredibly rewarding. I also really love how you branch out and collaborate with other creators. It would be amazing to see you help Markiplier with his setup one day if that’s ever a possibility! 😅 That’s just a fun wish, of course-not something I’d ever be upset about if it doesn’t happen. I’m just genuinely happy that LTT exists. I’d buy more merch if it weren’t for the shipping and taxes into Norway (and, well, being a student makes the budget a little tight! 😅). I’m so happy to see that you’re doing well as a KZbinr, and I truly hope your success continues. You’ve helped me multiple times, and you’ve absolutely earned everything you’ve achieved. Please keep up the amazing work, and thank you for all your hard efforts. Your videos have brought me so much joy and given me knowledge I never would have gained otherwise. You truly make the content exceptional! I hope you and your team have a wonderful Christmas and a happy New Year. 😁 (I also watched this video.. just thought id be better to send it here instead of an 7 months old video 🫣)

[@LinusTechTips]

I occasionally read comments on old videos as well. Thanks for your feedback. Appreciate u :) -LS

[@ultimatebikekid]

I can totally understand why AM4 is topping sales. It's a platform so many people invested in, think early covid as well when everyone was at home. And with super low prices it's just an easily justifiable upgrade. I perosnally got a 5950x for my workstation, and a 5700X3D for my gaming rig, both for nearly 60% under original MSRP. I'm super happy with my systems performance, so moving to an entirely new platform which would require a CPU, Mobo, and RAM upgrade is not justifiable IMO.

[@kazuviking]

12100/400F overclocked is still the goat of budget cpus in the EU.

[@quisqueyanguy120]

Outside the US Intel is still king. Most businesses love Intel CPUs for productivity tasks.

[@BobTheChainsawMan]

But aren't they locked chips? I thought you couldn't OC them.

[@kazuviking]

@@BobTheChainsawMan Some motherboards can do BCLK overclock. The 12400F at 5.2GHz matches the 7500F in 90% of games.

[@kazuviking]

@@quisqueyanguy120 12100F 70€ or 12400F 120€ + B760M PG Riptide 115€ + CL30 6000 32gig ram 100€. This budget combo can give you a really good upgrade. The 12100F at 5.1GHz matches the 5600X overclocked while the 12400F at 5.3GHz the 7500F in 90% games.

[@jean-charlesweyland129]

@@kazuviking ASRock B760m PG Riptide is the cheapest one to allow BCLK OC (only on 12th gen btw). A 12490F at 4.6GHz all cores matches and even beats a 7500F at 1440p.

[@nilsseidlitz5006]

Love that you brought this Format back. Doing great work, thank you LTT Team!

[@andrewachkar]

7800x3d here with 32GB DDR5 RAM and 4070ti Super, im running any game @ 1440p at high/ultra settings at 150+fps, the 7800x3d is very much worth the money

[@lancerlancesnafon2048]

i Have a 7950 x3d with my build we nearly the exact same build

[@vilotarian]

Have the exact same build. Couldn't be happier with the thing.

[@Greedy-Allay]

nobody cares really

[@definitelyfunatparties]

I have a 5700X and a 4080 because I didn't waste money on a 7800X3D, so I'm running any game except Cyberpunk, and Wukong (I haven't played Alan Wake but I'm sure it'll be the third one) @4K at max settings at 100+ FPS *shrug*

[@joshdudeck2163]

I'm glad I saw your reply on this. Was going back and forth between am4 or upgrading to am5. Sounding like 5700x3d and spend the savings on 4080

[@Jupex]

Gonna switch my i7-8700k to Ryzen CPU soon, when I do a full system upgrade. He's been through a lot i think he deserves the rest o7

[@priceless073]

this is literally only reason im still on a intel

[@naam_loos]

I'm on an i7 6700 and the cpu is starting to go below the minimum requirements on steam, so I'm considering an upgrade to everything except GPU

[@calebpipet]

I just swapped my 8700k for a 5700x3d and I've gained over a 50% increase in 1440p. 3060ti

[@Yurk2]

I recently upgraded my I7 8700 to the 9800X3D. Night and day difference

[@PontiacKid2]

@@calebpipet That's similar to where I came from. 8600K to 5800X3D

[@OriginalUpdates]

Please do a video about how to take your steam library purchases, download the game files, and how to store them and play the games on a third party launcher to always play your purchased games offline.

[@drkRoss89]

As an 5600X user, the fact I can drop in a 5700X3D and give my existing AM4 platform and breathe a bit more life into it without replacing my entire MOBO is highly appealing. Why do a platform upgrade when I can pay $200 for a drop-in replacement?

[@MrXaniss]

Lots of people just haven't upgraded for a while or cannot affoed newer stuff, and of course, 5-6 years ago intel was mostly ahead still. And before that they were WAY ahead.

[@Celatra]

@@MrXaniss 5 years ago was 2019. they were barely ahead.

[@MrXaniss]

​@Celatra in gaming performance Zen 2 was still like 10% behind, but they were cheaper and top end ones had way more cores. In 2020 with Zen 3 is when they took the lead. Edit: Love it when KZbin fucks up the reply.

[@fujinshu]

Thanks, Wintel cartel!

[@IdeasAreBulletproof]

You Mean before 2018?

[@agamersinsanity]

it took me 8 years before I upgraded but i doubt i will buy a new PC in the future.

[@bluebrass]

Man I've been watching you on and off since you started, usually when it's new pc build time every five years or so, and you have gotten so freaking good at this! Thank you!

[@avtips4779]

1:14 your sponsor for a video about intel losing market share, is a pc equipped with an intel cpu

[@TheFTPchannel]

@@avtips4779 its almost like thats what marketing is made for

[@The_Starling]

I thought the same, MSI prob getting a refund or a free future sponsorship asap

[@kaiclark6863]

was trying to see if anyone else noticed lol

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Back during Prime Day 2, the 5700X3D was on sale for $180-$190. At that price range, LGA 1700’s price advantage (w/ a DDR4 board) erodes somewhat especially now that both sockets are “dead platforms”, and that only applies to 12th gen since everyone’s afraid to buy a 13th/“14th gen” intel because of CPU-dying-issues 7800X3D I remember at 1 point as low as $350 several months ago, but I think AMD pulled a RTX4090 hence the high price now for the 7800X3D

[@quisqueyanguy120]

Am4 is not dead yet, AMD just launched 2 more CPUs for Am4 on October, that was a month ago.

[@XFXGX]

Yeah the 13 gen CPU’s aren’t an issue anymore, bios update and your cpu won’t have issues unless it already does

[@Longspeakview]

If you are near the microcenter store in Denver, CO, they still have some 9800X3d in stock. Grabbed one yesterday.

[@derpaderpaderpader]

5950x with a 4070 is beast mode and super affordable now. Only drawback is you need to be careful when buying used am4 motherboards as the bios may not be up to date and not compatible out of the box without flashing it. I picked up the processor new for less than USD $300 over the summer and could not be happier. plays every single game I have now at max settings and not issues.

[@arunps7719]

Sweet deal

[@ekifi]

Depends on what you do, for multi threading intensive workloads the 5950X does offer 16 pretty fast cores at a great price these days but something like a 7700X would probably yield you quite a bit more single core performance which is still the most important factor if most of what you do is gaming. I agree double the cores for a similar price does sound great though

[@derpaderpaderpader]

@@ekifi I went with the 5950x to extend the life of my current hardware. That's all. I couldn't use an 7700x with an AM4 mobo even if i wanted to. I'll have to update to an AM5 eventually, but this is what i got. I was attempting to avoid a full system upgrade (cpu, ram, mobo). I've very happy with my setup now.

[@scoredbuffalo31]

5:06 if you find it on aliexpress from the right seller, you can go even lower to $130. Although, it is a tray processor and will not be honored by AMD's warranty.

[@Kerberos443]

I am using an AMD build since Ryzen and super happy with it. running a 3800X CPU and a XFX 7900GRE at the moment.

[@franz0901fw]

2:02 nice one Linus

[@TypicalNerds]

4:12 All I'm going to say is that around November, the 7800x3d shot up in price significantly, likely to boost profits around the holidays

[@MiG82au]

While I don't know whether this is the reason, it makes sense to release the non X later. It gives them more time to accumulate low binned dies for the version with lower clocks.

[@kriptic_22]

1:13 Those are really good pc's, wait, intel cpu 🤨

[@JamesSatherley]

0:34 You're telling me the CPU with the most sales is the one with 13 reviews? vs #2 with 3887 reviews?

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

Maybe he refer to current sales number

[@Pajon03]

Its probably this month and since the 9800X3D only got released last month there arent many reviews yet

[@organsnatcher8395]

Most the sales were probably vots trying to scalp the cpu

[@nicusantudor]

You should try a foot pedal for changing slides on the prompter... moving your hand on and off the table is a bit distracting 😂

[@Grayfoxs]

3:13 Looks like Userbenchmark got to the reviews again

[@Shadow_Dragon05]

Intel CPU is better because.....um..It has ultra in its name or something -Userbenchmarks(probably)

[@koroprotogen7809]

Userbenchmark is the website that developers use to set up the sys requirements... You know that... Right?

[@jovyflow007]

5:24 $121 for shipping on those ram sticks is crazy!

[@thefreakgamerp]

i got myself the ryzen 7 9800x3d with mobo and 32gb ram and a aircooler for 900euros when it just launched. went from a i7 8700k to the ryzen 7 9800x3d and its like going from a steam engine to a jet engine best thing ever.

[@mateusbmedeiros]

Yikes? What do you mean yikes? Things are shifting in a big way and my body is ready for it. One of the biggest pleasures in life is witnessing a company getting complacent because of dominance and having that dominance finally snatched away from it because of a less complacent competitor.

[@MiriaJiyuu]

Yep, right now AMD is holding it in new systems, but it does seem like they might be getting to the end of the road on the Ryzen architecture and Intel's core series is new. I'm excited to see what will happen as these are usually the best times for hardware.

[@deauthorsadeptus6920]

​@@MiriaJiyuuYeah, they are kinda in dead end. And arrow lake still has a HUGE room for improvement, while being somewhat evenly matched with new amd cpus (not the most powerful however, at least without overclock).

[@Adrian-d5b3n]

Can't wait for the i8 15450ke 🔥🗣️

[@joshclasing6287]

We need a video on a non-gamer or minimal-gamer PC, like mainly for AutoCad/Fusion360

[@cristianroth8524]

AMD is the Taylor Swift of tech, otherwise I can't explain the enormous praise when they do something right and the very mild critique when they make mistakes. No other company has had its image pampered by so many for so long.

[@fresco_dinero5155]

Don’t forget the 7500f if ur on a super budget. 6 cores 12 thread 32mb L3. Similar performance as 7600 and it comes in around $120-$145. If all u do is play games at 1440p or 4k and u don’t do too much else then u dont really need a beefed up cpu because nowadays even base mode lower core CPUs are still plenty TIMES powerful than older CPUs.

[@Kussler88]

7500F is THE best recommendation for budget builds or lower-end, but future proof, AM5 builds.

[@zeenxdownz]

​@@Kussler887500f is am5

[@gtleshow]

It’s wild to see a premium CPU becoming the go-to choice for so many people.

[@kornar]

I got an Intel i7-12700 on sale, because nobody wants to buy intel and it was cheaper than the AMD equivalent and in addition to gaming, I need the CPU cores for work. :)

[@Mindgames91]

upgrading from a Ryzen 5 5600x to a Ryzen 7 5700x3d. Didn't even have to replace my motherboard. Win.

[@liamschenk40]

Hey I have a pretty decent cpu and found that the game Victoria 3 by paradox interactive runs a huge portion of the cpu, but only on speed 5. I would love to see it on other cpus. Happy holidays. ❤

[@jonathanbrown1120]

still rocking my 8700k with 3090, high/ultra all games 180+fps

[@m3tz461]

good for you, now try to run rust with 400+ pop server, Lets see how many fps will the 8th can make :)

[@J.Wick.]

great combo. still have an 8700-2080 kicking around myself. If not for finding some killer deals, it'd still be my main. still runs everything at 2k med/high just fine.

[@felixarkang5414]

You are getting heavily bottlenecked you can most likely go down to 3070 and get similar fps.

[@BobTheChainsawMan]

Same, but I just bought a 9800x3d to finally replace my old 8700k! She's served me very well over the years.

[@nerolowell2320]

1440p

[@TimothyWhiteheadzm]

The steam hardware survey is based on people using steam. The sales of CPUs on amazon reflects mostly people building custom pcs. I don't know what percentage that is of people on steam but my guess is it would not be that high a percentage. At least in the past prebuilt systems were more common than custom ones. I myself custom choose my parts but get someone else to build it so I don't buy my parts off amazon but rather off the builder.

[@Supernautiloid]

I got a 5700X3D for Black Friday. I love it. ❤

[@Eldarduil]

Steam survey shows intel is high, because a lot of laptops comes with intel cpu. Even this day majority of market full of laptops with intel cpus

[@Honeybuns89544]

I just bought a Ryzen 7 5700x for 60% off to replace my Ryzen 5 3600

[@matthewshehata8894]

Love the fact they used the Ibai gif. Well done editors.

[@lukefiggins6851]

Not everyone is a LTT employee who gets a free $5000 upgrade every year or two. Most of us upgrade only 1-2 times a decade, and while theres no doubt who's on top atm, 5-10 years ago, it was a very different story.

[@unstablenl]

I think 10 years is quite some time. Nonetheless, many people are still using 8th, 9th, and 10th Gen Intel processors. The 8th Gen is arguably in a grey area concerning performance-I don't think it's powerful enough anymore. A 9th Gen i7 or i9 would probably still perform well, and the 10th Gen remains a strong option. Plus, anything beyond the 10th Gen is worth considering, aside from the questionable 13th and 14th Gen CPUs. It's also worth noting that Intel was the standard for most pre-built systems - AMD Pre-built wasn't and maybe still isn't really a very common thing.

[@DKTD23]

Yeah well that just goes to show what happened when mismanagement crippled AMD, and yet somehow Intel ended up becoming complacent as can be, despite using monopolistic practices for 15 years to gain huge advantages. It's actually more embarrassing that Intel ended up fumbling the ball.

[@DevilChowder]

You completely forgot about the huge sale that the 7800x3d went on for. About 250 dollars for one of the best gaming cpus on the market. Im so lucky i boutht mine then

[@EvilTony2012]

wait what

[@Steamrick]

I don't think it ever went below $350? Did you typo?

[@Phenomenalpeincleas]

​@@Steamrickit did lil bro I bought mine too under 300€

[@GotAK46]

Wow, missed the sale 😢

[@DevilChowder]

@@EvilTony2012 this was half a year ago

[@zackerymcpherson9409]

I personally only use my gaming machine for gaming, I think that intel i5 is a better experience than my ryzen. I only like intel i5s for price savings and single core performance. I think intel is also nice for older software and games that I play. I only spent $250 for my cpu and motherboard and spent $600 on my 4070 and felt that if I spent more money I’d get a 4070ti or 4080.

[@smokedcal846]

@@zackerymcpherson9409 what CPU did you go with for your 4070?

[@zackerymcpherson9409]

@ 12th gen, this was during 2023 and 13th gen was already out.

[@Gardus82]

Previously intel 7700 (in the office) and 4750g (basically a 3800x with less cache and integrated graphivs) + 3080 (Mini pc in the living room for gaming, media). I used the 4750g for a new machine in the office, got a 9700x with AM5 mb, ddr5 etc. Initially I thought about staying AM4 but the 5800x3d I wanted was out of stock and I decided for "future-proof" platform.

[@staceyandrews1059]

Just got the 7700x yesterday and upgraded from the 2700x. It’s insane the speeds that ddr5 and am5 CPU’s can reach, with each core sitting around 5.2ghz, and the ram at 4800mhz (previously 2800mhz) makes for a seamless experience in gaming and general use. I would definitely recommend if anyone’s trying to upgrade from am4 to am5 for a solid price, especially with the holiday sales around us!

[@-Burb]

4800MHz is pretty slow for AMD CPUs using DDR5, make sure you turn on EXPO or XMP in your BIOS to get the full 6000MHz.

[@staceyandrews1059]

@ yeah I hadn’t boosted it yet, it’s rated for 7200mhz. For my purposes though just its base clock speed is significantly better than my old ddr4 so I don’t mind

[@akaYenity]

i just swapped from ryzen 7 5700 to intel i7 14700k. needed thunderbolt for my apollo twin x, and amd doesn’t have as much support, when intel does for thunderbolt. loving this cpu so far

[@julianb6092]

I just got the 7600x3d bundle from micro center and I couldn’t be happier great entry into the AM5 platform for 500 bucks you can get a cpu ram mobo and a fan can’t go wrong man

[@Bottlecapy]

I did a gaming upgrade to a 5700X3D from a 5900X. It’s been a nice improvement!

[@shadowman2469]

From a ryzen 9 5900x to a 5700x3d was an improvement how and where?

[@jackbro655]

Both CPUs are amazing i don't think it was a necessary upgrade lol, but I'm glad you are enjoying that CPU, I ordered mine and it'll arrive on the 20th Dec (r7 5700x3d)

[@LatvianVideo]

@@shadowman2469 x3d cache power

[@Bottlecapy]

5700X3D gets a gaming improvement of up to 30 percent compared to a 5900X. The 3D V cache is a game changer. Mainly noticeable is the better 1 percent lows which smooths out the frame rates considerably.

[@shadowman2469]

@@Bottlecapy yeah the key point is up to 30 % didnt see that many games going up that high mostly about 5-7 FPS on a big number of games. But as someone mentioned wasnt necessary in my opinion, but what ever you like you can if you have the money to spend its your choice at the end. If your system is well opiutimized with ram and everything else 1% low isnt an issue, at least not for me because dont have a bad experience with that. Cheers!

[@RaDK012]

Intro question : intel number 1 because of pre-build

[@ElGuaroGamer]

Oh yea. Corsair, NZXT, Alienware, etc. They all use Intel

[@lgustavoprod]

I was a proud and happy owner of a R5 3600 that still rocks on another computer and now a happy father of an 5800x3D. Great both for work and gaming!

[@jhuh7770]

The reason the steam hardware survey is right because most gaming laptop or most laptops in general use Intel desktop is hosting amd

[@jhuh7770]

I misspelled mostly for some reason my autocorrect change it to hosting

[@Vas79]

@@jhuh7770 steam hardware survey keeps getting sampling Asian Internet cafe machines and those usually come with Intel/nvidia. It is largely misleading, that’s why you often see discontinued versions of windows getting market share here and there.

[@MaarioDN]

@IbaiLlanos hereeeee?! 0:14

Nunca pensé encontrarme al gigante noble en un video de Linus 🤣

[@astorgaz9487]

@@MaarioDN jajajajajaja que loco

[@HardwareScience]

Que pro…

[@GerbyMcGerbs]

I'm planning an AM4 upgrade from my old i7 4770K, DDR3 MOBO with plans to keep it for another 9 years before upgrading again.

[@OliversTired]

Case hardened laptop? 0:49

[@ZboeC5]

It's a skin.

[@wee_man135]

@@OliversTired GOLD GOLD GOLD

[@SahiPie]

Dbrand has case hardened skins

[@Braindeadboi22]

Unlucky, they should try to get a blue-gem

[@jakubr2769]

6:30 "some performance" dude it's like 5 fps difference at 220fps

[@Crodie-89]

@@jakubr2769 And if he said you didn't give up any performance then I'm sure someone just like you would be commenting "well actually"

[@GoalieNinja03]

Is that not by definition “some performance”?

[@Paulie8K]

5700X3D and 3080 combo has been great. I play mostly at 1440P and 4K in lighter/older games and it's been great. I only sometimes have to drop settings in some of the newer unoptimized games, but I typically play games that are a few years old so that's rare.

[@LunarList]

I actually prefer Intel because of the better memory controllers but they pissed me off big time with 13th and 14th gen stuff

[@Hamentsios10]

@@LunarList is the issue fixed now with bios update and stuff?

[@LunarList]

@Hamentsios10 it is but the platform is dead and is a cooling nightmare so why bother

[@Hamentsios10]

@@LunarList I get it.

[@vincentlee7937]

2:50 amd's competition... is itself, lol

[@jermainemorales7875]

I’m happy I pulled the trigger on the 7950X3D last December. It had a $100 price drop on Amazon. It has been a great performer in my system!

[@KJSCalderon]

1:31 ok, who's watching Pokemon.....

[@thetwitchywarlock]

I've never watched it, should I?

[@sandevdias5721]

I watched pokemon and played pokemon games like a decade ago

[@KJSCalderon]

@@thetwitchywarlock whoa!!!

[@thetwitchywarlock]

@@KJSCalderon what

[@notCAMD]

Why would you be a fanboy of a chip company?

[@opticalsalt2306]

When the chips are in your favor…

[@just_2swift]

@@opticalsalt2306 or flavor.... Doritos all day!

[@danielgriffith8911]

Intel were basstids for many years... I think its more anti-Intel than AMD fanboi

[@CoreStarter]

Amd is legit better in every way right now, with how dogshit the last 2 Intel gens are, especially since everyone who doesn't keep up with the latest Intel blog posts is going to have a dead 13/14th gen in a year or 2 because of the vmin shift bug and with how badly arrow lake is bombing, as someone whose owned oy Intel chips willingly since the 2400k and used Intel core and core duos while growing up Intel is kind of a dogshit company in terms of it's newest products

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

He never been a fanboy, he give a very positive review on new Intel Arc B580

[@unclesamlore]

Got the 7700x bundle at microcenter for black Friday. As I need a more general use CPU versus just gaming, it's given me great performance in video editing software and gaming (space marine 2 runs GREAT)

[@bigmann2569]

I think the point is missed, not only do amazon CPU buyers change more frequently (keeping up with last couple years of trend) but I'd imagine most Intel's showing up in steam survey is coming from more prebuilt or custom built PCs from the gaming space. Maybe reach out to some of the prebuilt and custom build sellers you know and ask what they sell the most of.