AMD just deleted Intel - 9800X3D

[@tripl3a_]

it’s always funny when you see 6 youtubers upload at the same time because of the embargo

[@DrNoBrazil]

Yes, it is called following the embargo, and making sure they still get free stuff earlier in the future. It is called protecting their business. What is funny about that???

[@enfeeyano]

Practically They may not have uploaded at the same time, same as just the time they let the video premiere in KZbin.

[@BOZ_11]

@@DrNoBrazil you're no fun

[@Z3nryu]

6?? are u sure?

[@Name-oe9ez]

​@@Z3nryu The ones he's subbed to

[@narmandawidhi4366]

The fact that 5800x3d is still hold up so well say so much about AMD development throughout the year. Bravo

[@strider029]

I wish they're doing just as well in the GPU market.

[@DarkAngel-dc3te]

@@strider029 Well we just have to wait and see with their next gen gpu

[@tutuuo]

Won't be high end. VP already stated that.​@@DarkAngel-dc3te

[@bigturkey1]

my 5800x3d would drop usb, it was worthless for gaming

[@pin2xpress430]

*PC Gamers Party Time Guys* 😂😂😂😂😂 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@ZMASLO]

so much info in 6 minutes - optimum density I guess 😅

[@celakkvfx]

siema zmaslo

[@noodlehair6566]

mini ITX video. as much stuff as you can cram in as small footprint as possible

[@DevMonke]

Pause

[@BOTPlayingBlackOPS6]

I got that all in one, I understood!

[@davidyusaku]

a bit weird without context

[@EmeffMonkey]

Thank you for including my old CPU in your charts, always happy to see some R5 3600 representation to compare to

[@NuhUhUhBuddy]

currently using r5 2600

[@EvilSewnit]

Man I’m on an i7 8700

[@Jizzler1]

@@EvilSewnitI’m on i7 4790 😰

[@kravekkkkk]

@@NuhUhUhBuddy You should really upgrade. that thing is crazy dated and slow at this point.

[@Personalinfo404]

R5 3600 is a fine chip, I used mine with a 2070 super for the longest time, ended up selling both and dropped in a 5800x3d and a 3080ti 12bg, AM4 platform is sweet!

[@johngalactus4014]

Better gaming performance. Lower power consumption. Lower operating temperatures. Lower MSRP than the 14900K. Bonus: No need to worry about CPU degradation. What can I say. This is not a win by AMD, this is a blowout. A massive victory. All hail the new gaming CPU king!

[@mmmmmm-s1m2y]

no new socket

[@Aquaquake]

Sad that it's still so f-ing terrible at productivity tasks. Kudos to AMD for trying to bring it out of the gutter compared to 7800x3D, but there's only so much you can do with 8-cores :(

[@KrYPTzx]

@@Aquaquakethats why you have the 9900x3D and 9950x3D to wait for since they did say they will be changing some stuff regarding it

[@toad7395]

@@Aquaquake I mean its a gaming CPU. if you want productivity get a 9950x/x3D.

[@crescentwolfgaming9826]

​@@mmmmmm-s1m2y Thats a good thing.

[@Nerdhaunt]

A month ago, one of your ITX build videos randomly popped up in my feed. The thumbnail caught my attention, and I immediately fell into the rabbit hole. As a long-time Mac and PlayStation user, I never thought I would ever go back to Windows. But thanks to your videos, I built my very first ITX PC last week. It's the NR200P, but I think it still counts. Here's to another money-burning hobby 🥂

[@MikeDawson1]

before you settle back into Windows, try CachyOS for a week or so... you might be surprised

[@hadalabyss]

Fun hobby when you make something you're proud of

[@sebaschan-uwu]

Compared to buying apple products it will save you hundreds of dollars

[@invinciblemode]

@@sebaschan-uwuonly if you don’t value your own time

[@LenasSun]

Don't need to be money burning if you start flipping PCs!!!!!

[@Isaax]

Just about 8 years ago it was unimaginable for AMD to make such a comeback, and even if it did, nobody would've expected Intel to just sit there and twiddle their thumbs. To languish the way they did - absolutely pitiful. Truly the death of a once enormous giant.

[@GhostonYoutube201x]

now the roles are reversed where amd are charging you 500 for abit of performance improvement which you should expect to be the same price as 7800x 3d as its performance improvement over time, give it few years people will want intel to save us from amd prices

[@WyattOShea]

We can only hope that Intel stays competitive so we at least have competition to keeps prices in check.

[@cesaru3619]

2 more fps at 4k and cost more than a 14900k, nice try deluded amd fanboy,

[@sebaschan-uwu]

All intel does is twiddle their thumbs. For as long as I can remember people have been complaining about intel for that exact issue. Intel hates innovation and loves maximizing money extraction. Amd maximizes profit by innovating. Before the ryzen series, intel made some solid cpus and amd made decent but underwhelming ones. When amd actually started releasing good products intel couldn't compete and wasn't able to compete literally since ryzen was first released. The fact that intel is too lazy to innovate shouldn't be a surprise to anyone since they never cared about that.

[@chrcoluk]

I think saying its a death is premature, Intel have had very bad moments in their past and recovered, likewise AMD has also recovered from bad moments, AMD FX chips truly were awful, and yes they had degradation issues as well. But everyone seems to have forgotten those days and thinking Intel are doomed, and AMD will be kings forever. If it does happen and I am wrong, it wont be good for the consumer as AMD would just become Nvidia with the ownership of the market.

[@n1coR]

I dont understand why intel is even releasing something that is so far behind... like its just tarnishing their reputation even more.

[@namnathanielmai]

at least they reduced the power draw, but that seem to be the only thing

[@AD-sg9tr]

brand image. This is what people buy when they choose Intel, because marketing has made them believe that Intel is THE reference.

[@thetheoryguy5544]

That's because its not, you watch too much of these clowns. Intel actually offers better price to performance and beats these chips in thermals and in Multicore. Also in apps like Premier Intel is getting microcode patches that are boosting performance and they match AMD in gaming when paired with CUDIMM.

[@naizy]

@@namnathanielmai power draw really doesnt matter if the difference is like 3 bucks

[@keppycs]

@@thetheoryguy5544 where do i buy myself a troll outfit like yours?

[@x0vg5hs1]

i just bought 5700x3d and stopped thinking about processors for another 8 years.

[@metehanarslan979]

u can dont wo rry if your on 1440p

[@x0vg5hs1]

@metehanarslan979 what do you mean?

[@41-4E-4F-4E]

I’m still running an i7-9700k works fine for anything I throw at it

[@x0vg5hs1]

@@41-4E-4F-4E any 6 core will do nowadays. Only thing I fear are the bandwidth requirements for GPU to have when you do raytracing. Already running my GPU on PCIE 3.0 X8 is huge limiter.

[@ErickD1XD]

Hahahah I'm on a similar boat. I just got the 5700x. Thought I'd be set for another 4 years but AMD is already up to the 9XXX series hahaha

[@Paulie8K]

Finally a good release! Also, thanks for consolidating the info into 6 mins. I'll watch GN and HUB later. I only got my 5700X3D earlier this year as an upgrade over the 3700X (paired with RTX 3080) and it's been incredible, but it looks like I'll have several good options when I'm ready to upgrade in a year or so. May grab the 9800X3D, 5080 and 64gb of ram. Planning a max budget of $2,500 for my next system so I should hopefully be good.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

That will be a huge upgrade.

[@Paulie8K]

​@@MrAnimescrazy Thanks. I'm hoping so as I run a 4K 120hz LG OLED tv as my monitor and also play a lot of VR so I have to use a ton of DLSS right now which is fine, but I might get a higher end VR headset than my Quest 3 next year and those require crazy performance. We'll see.

[@De2t3ny]

@@Paulie8K sorry but throwing away 2.5k for such an "upgrade" is braindead lol. your system will do its job for another 6-7 years.

[@Paulie8K]

@@De2t3ny 2-3 years sure. 6-7 years? Nope. Maybe if I played at 1080P, but I'm running 4K 120hz OLED which my system struggles in, in newer games. Also, there are games and experience on the VR side that can tax even a 4090 now. But do what works best for you. Everyone spends their disposable income in different ways.

[@De2t3ny]

@@Paulie8K you bought a 4k120 display for a 3080? why? lmfao

[@elhonkler]

Thanks for not making it 40 minutes long

[@jestifizzle]

That intel power draw is actually mind blowing...they are so far behind in power efficiency now that I don't even look at intel chips when CPU hunting

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

yeah at least they dont hide it and all written in specs

[@DrMicoco]

@@iikatinggangsengii2471 lol they hide it too, that's why their cpu's were degrading

[@icecreamsandwichiify]

@@DrMicoco Not exploding. Stop using words wrong... Go back to school maybe????

[@DrMicoco]

@@icecreamsandwichiify oh yeah sorry, i meant "DEGRADING", is that better?

[@SocratesWasRight]

​@@DrMicocojust do an all-core OC and problems are gone, performance is better and power draw is controlled.

[@FudgeEyeNah_]

Userbenchmark are losing their mind rn

[@CookieManCookies]

In what way?

[@mdenjoyer831]

@@CookieManCookies they are intel shills

[@Xaticc]

@@CookieManCookiesit’s bought out by intel, to favor intel hardware

[@TheGrimiest]

@@Xaticcis it? If I remember correctly it’s just a dude that really really hates amd

[@EmperorSalami]

They gonna be like "It has about the same performance as a 4th gen i5"

[@AirzGamingTTV]

Thank you so much for a great and to the point video. All the 30 minute monologs with a thousand graphs are exhausting

[@klim8751]

Will you do a PBO2 tune on this cpu? Love all of your content

[@xskullyt6919]

only 2 percent gain and 25 percent more power consumption

[@lordzed83]

@@xskullyt6919 10% with proper overclocking

[@syrynx4454]

@lordzed83 There's no such thing as 10% increase with OC on the 9800x3d as it already runs at 5200+mhz out of the box, 10% would mean it would run at around 5750mhz, that's ridiculous. If you mean 10% along with memory tunning, maybe, but still unlikely. Best case 5-7% overall.

[@NFNSSynergy]

Might not be as crazy as you'd think, seen another reviewer hit around 5.6ghz already

[@SocratesWasRight]

All core OC is always better than PBO.

[@AZI3623]

This makes the 7800x3d look much better considering how efficient a 70watts processor could be!

[@rdmz135]

In gaming the new chip is more efficient

[@pham3383]

jokes on you,amd already halt production of those,they knew it,so they chopped it off

[@root3291]

@@rdmz135 no, they have worse efficiency.

[@syrynx4454]

Got my ryzen 7800x3d for 310$, considering i'm from europe, that was a a good deal, since the tax here is around 20% depending on the country you live in, add the shop tax on top Of that. Also got an rx 7900 xtx for 750$ so i'm set for a couple of years.

[@Dionyzos]

Yeah it looks like AMD is using their efficiency lead right now to crank up the power to achieve a generational performance increase which is a little disappointing. But that's what we get when the competition is struggling.

[@ВистанФраука-д1и]

How good is this orange light on the background. We noticed the Optimum, we noticed)

[@FabioSolari]

The way the orange light over the grey background looks like the Ryzenbox is pure cinema

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Wow so its way better then the 7800x3d at productivity. And still as good at gaming? Perfection. Whats better is its got massive gains in sim racing! Lets go!! Thats all I do lol BTW I'm an intel guy so yeah that's how crazy the change is from intel and amd. This will be my first amd cpu and I may go 9950x3d if it can do similiar to the 9800x3d and even more on the productivity side. If not I'll just go 9800x3d if it stays the best at gaming.

[@Athasin]

I hope this means good things for the 9950X3D.

[@floreslouis]

If they can match the 9800x3d and still deliver those high clocks then. That cpu could be the new king

[@reviewforthetube6485]

@@Athasin same because I woupd buy it. Also im an intel guy saying all of this. Its will be my first amd cpu.

[@jackie2-g8l]

The 265K is better

[@danielainger]

@@jackie2-g8l nah lol

[@wutangclan2051]

Thanks for this! Your videography quality is outstanding! Great lighting and technique!

[@speedXchess]

The only reason I see to buy an Intel in 2024 is, that you no longer need a room heater! My grandma loves Intel.

[@gozutheDJ]

4 year old joke

[@Vegeta_ble441]

@@gozutheDJ So are intel's latest chips

[@STANDARD_POTATO]

Even as a heater, the 14900 is still overpriced

[@Typhon888]

That's why I put an RDNA3 GPU so it can pull another 500-600watts for no reason and still be slower than a 4080s.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

It's also a lot cheaper than AMD in some regions outside the US.

[@Hoad.o47]

Shout out to the orange light in the background... Very nice

[@blzk12]

honestly looks like sunlight coming through a celing window at sunset

[@FluffyPuppyKasey]

@@blzk12 Looks more like an LED panel

[@Santiago-d1s5d]

Shout out to one black t-shirt after another in the background 😂

[@yourfbiagent2053]

0:21 the funny thing you can see with each 7---x3d generation there is bigger logo like its growing LOL

[@NeoDon1]

Got the first one sold at Microcenter this morning at St. Davids. Going to mate it with QVL 8000Mt/s KLEVV DDR5, and MSI X870E CARBON MB. and RTX 4080 SUPER! LETS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Skafiskafnjak51]

How much fps in cs2 ? 700 constant ? :P

[@hanyh2]

Filming this at the right time to have the sunset match the AMD theme is next level production.

[@hardlinenexus]

Have you tested the 9950X3D on productivity apps?

[@herpaderpa0]

Thanks for the review! For us SFF people, how does it undervolt? Wondering about the performance at ~7800X3d power levels.

[@CreativeRock.]

I like the orange light background, it seems to be natural light, with orange glass

[@falcon6329]

4:44 why not test at 1080p instead of 1440p to lower gpu usage?

[@lordzed83]

cause nobody buying this CPU is on some 1080p PIECE OF SHIT MONITOR ?? Wer all on oleds now.

[@cl4ster17]

@@lordzed83 In a few months, when an even faster GPU is released, you suddenly find out that the apparently similarly performing CPUs at 4K (GPU-limited) are in fact not even close. Benchmarking is intentionally unrealistic to isolate specific components.

[@dhruv8124]

All on oleds? What are you smoking?​@@lordzed83

[@Ethan7_7]

Ok spoiledton​@@lordzed83

[@jacobburgin826]

1440 is the new 1080

[@Yukison22]

Love the lighting on the wall behind you

[@faxel2195]

The orange in the background is so cool!

[@Waggehful]

Hey mate, nice video! I'm upgrading from a 6700k this Christmas!

[@michael2631]

I never used to look at AMD produtcs, but for the past few years they got my attention. 9950X3D i'm waiting for you.

[@PurplePuffy1]

i would probably stilll stick with intel , Ultra 9 285K seems just as equal but cheaper price

[@Donbros]

Honestly i really apreciate short videos like that.

[@Blubb5000]

My 2 year old 12900K just jumped out of its socket and ran out on the street in front of a truck.

[@iTrinityPlays]

Hold up there bud. I also have a 12900k. Call me an Intel fanboy, but making me switch over to AMD is getting closer. But having done some research, I was also thinking about pulling the trigger on these chips. But than I heard about the incoming AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D. And that as a i9 owner, seems more up my alley; also makes me more willing to go from i9>Ryzen 9. Only having to wait till about February isn't too bad also.

[@jamesstepniak9831]

@@iTrinityPlays im in the same boat

[@lgolem09l]

@@iTrinityPlays With the X3D chips there has so far always been some problem with only some cores having access to the extra L3 cache or something, which made them as purely gaming processors inferior to the x800X3D models. So better look into them well before pulling the trigger. I just swapped to the 9800X3D and I'm completely baffled by my cpu temps. Ingame they average 50-52C with a D15 in a Fractal Torrent at inaudible fan speed.

[@Jamie-666]

Shit, I remember your channel when it launched and i subbed. Nice one, mate.

[@MrEditorsSideKick]

Can you make a video on the AOC Q24G2A, it's one of the few 24 inch 1440p IPS gaming monitors.

[@qnton]

good budget monitor, I got it myself, I can recommend it

[@nea3451]

probably also the Titan Army P2510S, its a 24.5" 1440p 240hz

[@MrEditorsSideKick]

@@nea3451 Would be great if he made a video comparing the two.

[@SAVA47-00]

This is the only honest review I have seen today 🎉🎉🎉🎉 most of the other channels are 1080p and nonses testing

[@DrMicoco]

because that what actually matters for CPU benchmarks,

[@uronuklearec9745]

Thanks for making it 1440p in the games, i was looking for just that and nobody else made a decent comparison.

[@rpospeedwagon]

Yeah, but I wish he would have included 4K as well. 4k and 1440p should be the only practical benchmarks now in 2024 IMO.

[@uronuklearec9745]

@@rpospeedwagon yeah i mean 1080p is still good to have for upscaling reference, but for a 600$ CPU...

[@ErwinPPP]

@@uronuklearec97451080p in 2024 is just laughable.

[@randomcomments5034]

Im just excited for an x3D that I can manually set a static OC for. Not having to wait for clock speeds to ramp up works WONDERS for PC Latency

[@AliTweel]

I'm interested in seeing this with PBO2! will you do it please?

[@banana_bread_at_work]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "PBO2?"

[@ich_16]

@@banana_bread_at_work its oc method , u should watch his vid on it at least only the part that he explain it

[@ppeez]

​@@banana_bread_at_workprecision boost overdrive, amds automatic cpu overclocking

[@AliTweel]

@@banana_bread_at_work Precision Boost 2 is a performance-maximizing technology available in all AMD Ryzen™ and Ryzen™ Threadripper™ 2000 Series processors (or newer). This technology can improve your PC’s performance by raising clockspeeds, which makes the processor-and your applications-run faster. Best of all, Precision Boost 2 is entirely automatic: AMD’s intelligent processors have a sophisticated set of sensors designed to analyze conditions inside your PC and make the “go faster” decision as often as possible.

[@jayjaytp10]

Thank you for testing in 1440p. I hate looking at reviews and seeing 1080p with a 4090.

[@PrimusInvictus]

Bro even got the sun to match his color palette rq

[@Ebtoulson]

Any plans to test under volting? I'm really curious how efficient this CPU can get compared to the 7800x3d especially since the 9600x and 9700x started out with 65w TDPs (iirc)

[@pascal3026]

with a 3080 on 1440p lowest settings i am still gpu bottleknecked pretty much all the time with a 5800x3D

[@jackthatmonkey8994]

Holy crap a 3080 bottlenecks on 1440p low settings?

[@pascal3026]

@@jackthatmonkey8994 yes pretty much every game i testet (even games like cs2, overwatch, apex legends, R6 Siege etc. only valorant was cpu bottleknecked from all the games i have played/tested)

[@pascal3026]

@@zuldo8577 no its not

[@Liberty46]

i have 3090 and 5800x3d and i confirm i get gpu bottlenecked most of the time! this cpu still packs a punch even if its old

[@pascal3026]

@@Liberty46 indeed. Even when I search up Benchmarks with a 4090 and the 5800x3D the only games i found cpu bottleknecked are some Esport titles (most running way over 3-400fps still)

[@misterapocalypse1]

* L3 cache stacked underneath ;) Great content, always a pleasure.

[@EbonKim]

Thanks for benchmarking at 1440P! Update: I found some other 1440P and 4K benchmarks. Linus Tech Tips tested Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440P and 4K (1 FPS over the 7800X3D). KitGuru did a 3DMark Time Spy at 1440P (30,839 OC and 30,694 Stock), Core Ultra 9 285K had 31,211. Paul's Hardware did a 3DMark Time Spy Extreme at 4K (15433 overall, 7800X3d 14175 overall, and 14900K 17610 overall). optimum had 5 games benchmarked at 1440P. Did great at Assetto Corsa Competizione (245 FPS vs 7800X3D's 198 FPS). Warhammer: Space Marine II (142 FPS vs 7800X3D's 123 FPS). However, COD: MW III, F1 24, and Cyberpunk 2077 was negligible. Basically, if you primarily game at 1440P or at 4K with a good gaming CPU, no need to upgrade unless you want to with certain games.

[@cl4ster17]

Should have tested at 1080p or even 720p, ideally with DLSS Ultra Performance or equivalent for even lower resolution, to get GPU utilization as low as possible to guarantee a CPU bottleneck.

[@EbonKim]

@@cl4ster17 Everyone else is benchmarking at only 1080P.

[@cl4ster17]

@@EbonKim Any resolution is technically fine as long as you keep GPU utilization as far below 90%.

[@cesaru3619]

@@cl4ster17 back to 720p30 fps console peasant

[@De2t3ny]

@@cesaru3619 did you even understand what he said? lmao

[@jacksoni349]

Is there a SFF case you’d recommend for a ATX motherboard? My Caselabs BH7 is limited by gpu length.

[@Spectrulight]

0:18 you mean at the bottom 😂

[@FluffyPuppyKasey]

I'd honestly love to see what you can squeeze out of the 9800X3D at a more optimised voltage

[@voltex9885]

Optimum! I know this is a bit of topic but could you make a video about XHCI Interrupt moderation enabled vs disabled and its impact on end to end latency and its consistany (if it actually is around 15ms +) and howmuch does it actually impact overhead (dpc treshold). Please make it happend because you might be only hope to propperly test it and iam sure alot of people will be interested and thankfull if u make it happend and known. Also from what ive heard imod registers are diffrent from amd to intel so amitxv's imod script wont work for amd but u will figure that out for sure. Thanks if you will :) br VoltexFPS

[@yasolin566]

Registers are the same to my knowledge, but they are protected, so you have to turn off registers for the write protection first.

[@voltex9885]

@@yasolin566 Which registers are for protection?

[@Dr_cHeNGo]

Credits to the amazing lighting optimum! That’s how you show respect to a product that deserves it! :)

[@mchammer28]

Thank you for being the only channel to do 1440p tests and saving us from wasting our money 👍

[@M0DERN_B0REFARE]

I just want to say thanks for doing the benchmarks at a resolution owners of the higher end X3D owners will actually play at. Almost every other major reviewer only did 1080p. While it's interesting to see what the biggest difference possible may be, it's no good for those of us that want to see how it performs at least at one of the resolutions people with a 9800X3D will be using. I have a 7800X3D and play at 1440p, I just wanted to see if the new CPU would give me a meaningful boost in FPS. It looks like a small number of games may perform better than with the 7800X3D, but not enough to warrant me upgrading. Not yet at least.

[@NessinaSounds]

00:42 bro I kept scratching my monitor, lol

[@peterparker1471]

Great chip, i really hope this means prices for the 7800x3d will finally come down. Here in Germany it's basically up to msrp and 50% more expensive than just 5 to 6 months ago, which is ridiculous.

[@Cays3659]

My scrolwheel broke:(

[@FPSLounge_]

I "built" my first ever PC at CyberPower using the 9800X3D paired with a 4080 Super + 32gb of 6000MHz RAM. I'm upgrading MASSIVELY from a Razer Blade Advanced 2021 laptop, I can't wait!! My original pick was the 7800X3D, but the better cooling and performance gains for the price felt justified for a first PC

[@budthecyborg4575]

Flight Sim gets a 19% improvement in 1% low, this CPU is a game changer for simulators and many open world games. Given that this CPU performs better the more complex a game engine is there is no question 9800X3D will maintain relevance longer than any other CPU ever made.

[@kunka592]

I can only imagine how fast their X3D CPUs will be when they start doubling the L3 cache amount.

[@otravoyadnoe]

now I'm really eager to find out how much performance do we preserve when powerlimiting this thing to like 88W PPT (65W Eco Mode) and using Curve Optimizer as well.

[@tanmay8952]

no way! even Optimum made a video on it

[@cjermo]

The performance delta over the 5800X3D on a few of the productivity benchmarks - basically just straight-up IPC increase - is insane...

[@tweaky9161]

Very excited for the new CPU! Would love to see you put this thing in the NCASE M2

[@terrasai2857]

Lisa Su is the 🐐

[@BOZ_11]

Don't be silly. She's a saleswoman. Jim Keller is the reason for Athlon, and the reason for Ryzen. Jim Keller is the 🐐🐐

[@thefilthycasual448]

Well AMD should hopefully no as well in RX 8000 then yeah? Lets hope

[@Ben-Rogue]

Oh, did the CEO design this CPU? (reposted because KZbin loves deleting my comments)

[@kunka592]

@@Ben-Rogue Any CEO that doesn't actively sabotage the company at this point I think is doing a good job, lol.

[@terrasai2857]

@@BOZ_11 Come on. A saleswoman?! She is an electrical engineer with a BS, MS, and PhD from MIT with a thesis on semiconductor design. She took AMD from the verge of bankruptcy to what is it today. She was once the VP of IBM’s Semiconductor R&D team so “Dr. Lisa Su” knows what she’s talking about.

[@Hunlor-]

This is really cool, quite interesting how CPU continues evolving fast without any indication of a upcoming plateau. Regardless it seems, at least on some of those charts, that GPUS or just overall demand for CPU isn't increasing accordingly, to see the same framerate between the 5800 7800 and 9800 is quite curious.

[@Pabula]

9800X3D + RTX5090 will be the GOAT on 2025.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

Yup I can't wait.

[@Glitch315]

I'm planning on sticking with 5800X3D + RTX5090 Since I plan to run 4k ultra settings the difference in the CPU generations seems to make very little difference at 4k

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

@@Glitch315 It'll still make a huge difference in 1% lows and since you most likely will use DLSS , CPU perforrmance will start to matter. Not to mention that 5800x3D kinda sucks for emulation. So you should upgrade sooner or later but it was a great CPU for its time.

[@zangtokyo1]

​@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatI'm on a 5800x3D and 7900xt, 70gb 3200mhz and most of my gaming is emulation. It's always getting 60 FPS on 1440 and 4k. Not sure what you mean by it not being good in emulation? I'm emulating almost all Xbox, PS, and Nintendo games pretty easily.

[@nextjin]

@@Glitch315 Not entirely sure about the 5800X3D atm but CPUs from that generation are showing their age in the 1% and 0.1% lows. The only thing I care about these days are those metrics because those are the one that make a game feel terrible or not.

[@Nateabolic]

Time to upgrade from the 5900x to this, been wanting to do a new build but have just been waiting for new stuff to drop

[@MrAnimescrazy]

This will be a huge upgrade.

[@Nateabolic]

Cant wait, been wanting to build a new Form T1 build but have been waiting for new hardware to come out.

[@MarkHyde]

Intel coasted far too long in it's complacency and has been found wanting when it counted - the dumping of Intel by Apple was the first death knell - this is just AMD pissing on their corpse in terms of gaming performance....there is a reason current gen console run on AMD derived SoC. Great video the Rezen 7 9800X3d is a monster...

[@cesaru3619]

lol amd fanboy, buy this cpu...budget gamer.

[@kunka592]

@@cesaru3619 Braindead take.

[@HammerLeeAcc]

@@cesaru3619 Keep coping. No one is buying the Intel Core Ultra fail CPUs. Maybe Intel will ask TSMC to bail them out again, since their own fabs are dogshit.

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

Most down to earth and easy to follow along review from the 9800x3d

[@grasz]

0:20 stacked *underneath

[@mickaelsflow6774]

Nice! Short and to the point. Since you've jumped into simracing and VR driving, I'm curious... Would you benchmark the new chip with your headset? fpsVR and such are pretty decent at showing CPU and GPU frame time and load.

[@eldencasual]

your video quality is astounding

[@twTheivid]

LOOOOOVE the warm orange light! Such a nice touch

[@KEROVSKI_]

Nooo I expected you to test CS2, cmon broskiiii :D

[@tata_feufeu]

+1

[@tata_feufeu]

Also Overwatch 2, Valorant and The Finals pls

[@PCZONE1]

There are big gains in cs2

[@KEROVSKI_]

@@PCZONE1 around 100 fps. I found some videos 👍🏻

[@Felix-ve9hs]

I wish the CPU benchmarks would use 720p, so we're not benchmarking the GPU instead...

[@JunaidHasan23]

2:44 the temperature chart is not directly comparable because the location of these sensors are different.

[@finnwindu]

Hey brudda!! Been a fan for a while, I'm sure you've gotten this a bunch - what are those dope black t shirts?? Happy to follow any affiliate link provided. Cheers!

[@hugopnabais]

Intel?! What is that?!

[@TaymonsterAnimation]

hey! nice video and i like how you actually talk about the important aspects, such as the voltage, frequency, temperature differences, etc... why did you opt for 1440p benchmarks instead of 1080p?

[@DrMicoco]

because 1440p is constrained by the gpu, without gpu limits is where you can see the cpu limits

[@lucaschenJC]

Chilling with my 5800x3d, the true king

[@dominikikik]

looks like u don’t care much about hardware. claiming the 5800x3d as king shows some next level ignorance, kudos. hope u got it paired with a 1080ti for that extra level of delusion

[@RycoonGalloy]

king of the past maybe

[@SunnyWave69]

@@dominikikik yeah, it's old that means it's bad and weak. These people are delusional. Who the hell uses AM4 and DDR4 in 2024? So bad.

[@XxViciousxX]

@@dominikikik I mean, he's not wrong; it's not the fastest, but what CPU has come out that would honestly be a night-and-day difference? My 5800X3D is generally only 5-8 FPS behind my 13900KF (both have 4090s). Even in the worst-case scenarios, my intel is 20 FPS ahead, but I'd never notice without an FPS counter.

[@dominikikik]

we love shifting discussions. we started at “5800x3d is king” and now we have reached “well, it’s not shit”. the 5800x3d was king 2 years ago. it’s time for the fans to realize this. good cpu, epic on release. nowhere close to being king in 2024

[@JShipley323]

Yet another Optimum W, This is the best channel. Thanks for all that you do!

[@kshitijsingh978]

cries in 7800X3D that I bought this year /s edit: added "/s"

[@Yassin-jz1r]

Why? It's still an amazing chip and you can always upgrade to a future am5 chip

[@2cool0]

i mean you're not really getting any difference when it comes to gaming. the 7800x3D looks better in my eye just because it's more efficient uses less power while giving the same performance for gaming.

[@ChrisBa303]

Its still the second best CPU for gaming right now and the price was probably much lower than the 9800x3d

[@CatFinder3000]

mate watch the video again, they are VERY similar. new cpu much worse efficiency

[@ss11777711ss]

unless u have 4090 u shouldn't care

[@mitchy5994]

I noticed the 9700x wasn't in the cinebench testing. For multi core, the 9800x3D beat the 9700x by 150 points while being lower clocked.

[@Tobsn0312]

Nice CPU, but I‘m thinking about skipping am5 because my 5800X3D is still good enough for everything I want to do.

[@larsenmats]

same here. I have a 5700X3D in a nice B550 setup with 64GB DDR4 and RX 7800 XT. I game in 1440p. I think I can wait until AM6

[@Tobsn0312]

@@larsenmats Yep, I'm playing in 1440p aswell but with an RX 7900XT and 32gb RAM. Such a stable system. I really enjoy using it.

[@brohoya4828]

Temperature-wise, is that better to go for the 7800x3d for a SFF build ? Cause in the charts, it was constantly drawing less power than the 9800x3d and the 5800x3d I wonder if the Thermalright AXP90 X47 (full copper) is enough for a 9800x3d for example...

[@akosv96]

Intel is getting mogged by AMD. Sorry I'll leave now

[@Grinch_frog]

GET OUT!!!

[@zoupzz]

How well would this pair with my 2070 SUPER and then in a few months with ny future 5080?

[@MrAnimescrazy]

It should be good but with the 2070 super and will be much better with the 5080 but there may be a bottleneck with the 2070 super. I don't know just guessing.

[@ppeez]

The gains over 7800x3D are not crazy

[@mr.t3782]

Nope. Hopefully the next x3D chip is on AM5.

[@azamatshaimyerdyen6037]

lol "not crazy", that was really funny.

[@lordzed83]

there is no gains when gpu is limiting factor...

[@RycoonGalloy]

​@@mr.t3782 why would it not be? it's only been 2 gens on AM5, AM4 got 4 generations

[@nkk8339]

As a cpu overall is way better than 7800x3d. They removed the label only gaming. It can be an overall 8 core CPU for everything. That's the way forward

[@BelliSenior]

Cant wait to do some searching on the cpu for my upcoming 4080 fractal terra build to see which cooler would work best at 67mm height

[@oTeftie]

That’s the downfall of Intel…

[@Ugnexe]

ok man chill😅

[@YaBoyMezmo]

The downfall of intel started a while back, at this point, amd’s just putting the nail in the coffin

[@DrNoBrazil]

That is what happens when marketing Pat is running the show.

[@SarthakNarnaulia]

fr but 14900k still beats amd in productivity (video editing) while pulling more power. (its silicon burning issue is another talk). not in gaming though

[@YaBoyMezmo]

@@SarthakNarnaulia not really. As of rn, the 9950x is the single fastest cpu productivity wise available on the market.

[@andrewhendrix2297]

Did you film at sunset or sunrise or did you put a tint to get the Ryzen matching orange? Either way, very pleasing

[@Daybreaking.]

6 seconds ago is wild

[@Raynhardx]

4060 TI + 7600X here. Updated to 9800X3D. Same RAM, same mainboard. Word of Warcraft fps in dornogal went from 65fps to 115fps (graphics setting 9, raytrace shadows off, 4k resolution). Lag when streaming on discord completely gone. While using 63 watts. This CPU for CPU bottlenecked games is amazing.

[@NuclearCashew]

That orange light is beautiful

[@TheSonorabob]

wondering how this will hold up in SFF cases with a 4090. I think I might still opt for the 7800x3d?

[@MrAnimescrazy]

You can go with either cpu but the 7800x3d has gone up in price and I think it is close to the 9800x3d price currently. So I would go for the 9800x3d and the temps should be fine but if you want to undervolt you can do that as well.

[@Stepher45]

So excited this is out. The performance gains are huge! Now everyone can sell their 7800X3D and I can buy one for cheap!

[@cemsengul16]

What about productivity performance and low watt idle?

[@ITISFAXX]

the lighting is crazy

[@IamMotionMedia]

What is the best ITX Board to pair with the this now!? It seems b650i aorus ultra is now discontinued…

[@hectormoreno3940]

Can you put this in a Formd T1 build and see if air cooling is still possible with the new thermals?