Why is everyone suddenly revisiting SFV? ft. iDom | Trash Talk - Extra Trashy

[@Brian_F]

I meant to discuss this during the SFV segment but my old man brain completely dropped it, the SFV nostalgia wave was initiated by Tachikawa's XMas SFV tournament in Japan, which was a very successful event gathering 10k+ viewers: x.com/TachikawaBR/status/1870877177371308178

[@zegim]

I wouldn't mind at all having iDom as a regular cohost or whenever there's no guest. You both have great conversations.

[@Googlrr]

Yep I always enjoy listening to them talk. Both really knowledgeable players

[@XenoAme]

this is insane having 3 idom episodes already just have him co-host and bring a third on the main podcast at this point man

[@tavistaite8592]

Tbh I'd love for idom to just be a regular. They got good chemistry! Make it happen Big Brian.

[@numa2k147]

The discussions are interesting so it doesn't really matter

[@Akkbar21]

Let the man cook

[@Zenbon111]

Maybe he doesnt want to, it aint always about us

[@fgckevin]

at the end of this episode iDom command grabs BrianF sending him flying

[@EllaEllaAudios]

I would not complain about iDom being a regular host on the Extra Trashy segment, really good chemistry on these

[@Cezkarma]

Brian_F with the most level headed takes in the FGC

[@Brian_F]

Oh woah thank you!

[@animegeorge2718]

Fax

[@AdamJorgensen]

Nice, Brian even has fans in ZA 😊

[@olimphus26]

@@Cezkarma he’s too much of a centrist tho. He needs to take a real stance on these issues 😂

[@Brian_F]

​@@olimphus26thanks for the input. I try to be authentic in my views and not just repeat what people in the comments want me to say. When you're disgruntled with the state of sf6 (which i believe you are based an the numerous negative comments you leave on many videos about the game on my channel) and then my opinions don't align with yours, it definitely can be seen as being a centrist. From my perspective, I'm just not upset about the game and think it's pretty good. Hope that clears it up.

[@budafuka]

As someone who has to deal with coworkers talking about absolutely nothing but sports and bets 5 days a week, I'd rather not see it in the FGC. People probably take gambling less seriously as an addiction because there aren't the immediately obvious physical symptoms associated with it and they always assume it could never happen to them. Actually just had one of said coworkers go to a gambling treatment facility about 2 months ago after his wife "suggested" it.

[@Brian_F]

Yeah man gambling addiction is nasty stuff. I really do think the proliferation if sports betting in our society is bad... And thank you for the generosity!

[@Quince477]

I agree as someone in college right now. Hearing my peers talk about their parlays and how they're betting on this and that player always puts a knot in my stomach. I do understand that you can use statistics to make educated bets, but overall I think it is still bad for society.

[@Jorgec224]

I've seen how people talk to athletes online in regards to losing their bets. It would be unhealthy for a much smaller community where players are more engaged with fans. Most my coworkers lose money to sports betting but get refreshed when they make back a hundred or so every few weeks. A real nasty development we'll have to discourage or straight up mock should it start to show up here

[@bustinmayo6595]

i love idom the co-owner of trashtalk

[@NRobbi42]

I think Evo Vegas should be re-titled as the "EVO Grand Championship" so that all the other Evo events don't dilute the main tournament. All previous Evo Vegas winners get the "Grand Champion" title retroactively.

[@olimphus26]

@@NRobbi42 that’s a good idea.

[@co81385]

I still love SF5 for what it is. In the end, play the game that you like. There was a point in time in which Super Turbo, Third Strike, Alpha 3, CVS2, and MVC2 all co-existed. If you enjoy a game, play it!

[@RespecttehPixel]

I just hopped on SFV recently for the first time and been having a great time besides the netcode. Wish more people would hop on ranked. I also enjoy SF6 - you can enjoy and play both games whenever you want

[@vasilykiselev6285]

They actually took the good servers away and moved it to sf6 when it came out

[@aronorange]

Oh? Weekly Podcast now with iDom. Perfect Pairing

[@nana-wv3wk]

cool ass pfp

[@barrymaslow8441]

Gambling is a huge problem that isn't talked about NEARLY enough.

[@kurtis_schmurtis]

I think it could lead to a lot of trouble with something like the FGC. The potential for match-fixing would be too high. It could certainly drive interest but also make for a really ugly scene.

[@SylemGistoe]

Yeah, i'll be real- i would rather it just *not* get popular than become riddled with gambling addiction... That's a tough one.

[@similaritiesendhere]

I walk into a gas station and see no one in line. Phew! I grab a bag a chips and before getting to the register, 2 or 3 gambling addicts have gotten there before me to spend their weekly grocery budget on scratch offs. They're in no rush too. One of them is stealing change out of the "take a penny leave a penny bowl" to buy one more ticket. The FGC doesn't need crackheads. We already have a-holes, cheaters and predators.

[@vasilykiselev6285]

​@@SylemGistoefunny thing is that a loved gambling in sf5 because i was a gief player, but you just have to gamble wayyy too much in sf6, it gets stupid

[@SylemGistoe]

@@vasilykiselev6285 are you... sure you get the context here?

[@geniusofhate]

bringing sports booking to FGC would be cataclysmic and we would not go one single major event without a collusion scandal

[@nickkiller-0710]

I love how even when the FGC tries be positive, look back and celebrate a game they liked, people still try to be negative about it lol I like SF6 but the fanbase is so paranoid and cult like that a mf can't even like another game anymore or they take it as an offense.

[@robertparker9404]

Ikr it's crazy with some of the comments I be looking at.

[@Brian_F]

Even comments here are calling me a "liar" about people being nostalgic for sfv lol. Its so strange how some people cant accept that there was a set of people who enjoyed sfv and would be nostalgic about something in the past they enjoyed, and that enjoying the previous title does not mean you HATE the current title.

[@originalscreenname44]

I liked SFV more than probably most people did, but I can at least see why a lot of people hated it. This is coming from someone who does not really like SF4, and was pretty much done with that game when it required you to pay $30-40 just to get the balance changes and not have dead online.

[@Hunt9-qb1if]

No, I just find it offensive when you have some idiots saying ugly ass games like streetfighter five that was simply garbage is is as good if not better than a fucking masterpiece and we don’t play those type of games. Streetfighter 6 made fighting games great again. So miss me with the revisionist bullshit trying to play victim like we’re the bad guys. We just cut the bullshit off

[@hiddensoundtest1444]

I swear i see more misinformation about sfv than any other fighting game. Like that zangief headbutt didnt delete projectiles in season 1. It did and you can even see him do it in his character trailer, but videos from jmcrofts and big yellow claimed otherwise. It feels like because of the game's reputation, people dont care to give accurate information

[@Eman-vp6ju]

In their irrationally angry reaction to SFV nostalgia, I see detractors bring up 8f of input delay. It's like rhey refuse to accept that SFV didn't remain in its launch state 💀

[@lainahtan13]

Sports gambling is a cancer.

[@unrighteous8745]

SF6 was an incredible game at launch, years and years ahead of where SFV was at launch. However, we're a year and a half in now, and I'm not really liking the progress. System mechanics that people were complaining about at launch are mostly untouched, there's a concerning lack of character costumes and stages being added, and (although this is highly subjective) I'm not really liking the DLC characters for the most part. SFV, even at the end of its life, was not a perfect game. However, its roster is awesome, it has tons of costumes and stages, and it's become a lot fresher in the time we've been playing SF6 (no throw loops or drive rush lol). I think the disappointment in SF6's live service support is partially what's fueling this renewed interest in SFV.

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

Am pretty sure SFV had throw loops

[@unrighteous8745]

@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 I think they got removed at some point. I mostly played towards the end of the game's life and they weren't a thing. Broski did an SFV video recently and he mentioned that Fang still had one, but I've never experienced it personally. Throws were just a lot easier to beat with jabs in general too.

[@justevolve]

Thers a lack of roster a lack of mechanical adjustments they r moving too slow sf6 is by far the best fighting gane out rn but I do think if they don't speed things up cotw will take its place for me at least

[@han3wmanwukong125]

I'm not really a constume person, but yhe game mechanics issue does seem to he a major problem. And besides Ed, I haven't really been interested in any DLC. I think the original idea of the World tour, while being novel, adds a layer of complication to the game that maybe is more of a limiting factor than capcom originally thought.

[@alanmoura6058]

Reclamar de looks para os personagens é insano, Capcom está lançando regularmente, tirando alguns personagens a maioria já tem 3 roupas diferentes, já foram lançados estágios diferentes também...essa geração está doente e não quer admitir, saia das redes sociais e va viver o mundo real um pouco.. .

[@savethemboys.7039]

Street fighter 5 when it was finished was a great fighting game

[@apollocrews6505]

stop the cap

[@joaov2374]

Final version of SFV was one of the best SF games ive playied. Like, top 3!

[@illford]

SF5 had cool characters tbf, as a spectator Menat was really cool

[@bigoleon]

Not gonna lie I was randomly thinking about 4 and 5 simply because i miss my boi Balrog.

[@cob_90]

I feel this so much, main reason i don't play SF6 ATM

[@kaemonbonet4931]

My favorite idom bit is when he would anti air with standing light kick and cancel it into command dash to left right mix the player on recovery. It blew my mind the first time i saw it.

[@Quince477]

Yeah that was such a strong option lol

[@rasifurefodi8306]

Because Rose is the coolest character in SFV history and I need her for 6 😭

[@hypnoticflower3152]

I want her and makato to return

[@TheEmptyInbox]

I liked sf4 rose over sf5 rose

[@whizthesugoi]

wrong dan is best

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

​@@TheEmptyInbox ass opinion fr

[@kingrey3528]

No I need Alex back

[@olimphus26]

I love SFV and SF6 is not a bad game, it’s just that the meta sucks, the constant drive rushing and drive rush buffering and the throw loops, etc… it’s getting boring now; at least the meta in V for me was more bearable and required a bit more effort on confirms, etc, you didn’t have something like DR or parry as a crutch, just V trigger that happened like once in a round and not during the whole game.

[@azizkash286]

The issue we all are seeing is that the developers are refusing to make real changes to the game and are playing it very safe

[@joaov2374]

Yeah, its a very aggressive game while sfv allowed defensive playstyles to shine too. It had more flaxibility

[@olimphus26]

@@joaov2374 yeah, in 6 you can’t really defend because everyone is just rushing you down all the time and you can get burned out if you block too much, it’s crazy, blocking can kill you lol.

[@olimphus26]

@@azizkash286 yeah

[@daquancurry7805]

Shit no to mention guessing on throws and some situations when you have to tech or die. This game needs alot to get fixed.

[@3rawan]

Would love to see an interview with Uma! But I know there's a language barrier and also, just getting a hold of the guy who disappeared!

[@JohnDoe42069]

Loving the Idom and Brianf chemistry

[@irishpizza2823]

34:22 Respect for being fair on this point, a lot of other channels would rather plug their ears and just call people babies instead.

[@AdamJorgensen]

I don't see the issue with having more EVOs, although it would be nice if they were more locally branded. The negative side of EVOs is that it's very US-centric. I know it's fine for you guys in the US but for everyone else it means expensive travel, accomodation and visa pain, things which have just gotten worse with time. Too many local EVOs could be an issue tho. Would be neat if it could move every few years but that's probably too much to work on for the organisers....

[@Quince477]

Hardcore tekken 8 fan and player here. The game is in a precarious state right now due to a good handful of characters having VERY strong moves / gameplans to where it becomes simply too much to think about, or very hard to play against. This leads to more stress. Also, with Clive's release he has F1+2, a safe mid that tracks if the opponent sidesteps in either direction and reaches from a very far distance. This along with his mix-up potential with his stance phoenix shift and other strong tools, makes him a very strong character that is easy to play. In his current state many high level players and the community as a whole agree that he is a top tier character. Obviously, this issue compounded on top of everyone expecting tifa or a better announcement then Clive has the community in a unhappy state. This recent Clive release along with certain characters being too strong and system mechanics such as certain heat engagers being punishable without heat, but safe AND plus with heat (heat dash) has the tekken community unhappy with the product and are waiting for the next balance patch, with hopeful thoughts that it addresses a lot of the issues with the game at the moment. Essentially, if the next few patches / updates are lackluster the game could see a drastic decline in the player base. I personally do not think that will happen given the Tekken dev team previous patches / updates.

[@StargazingGarou]

Just imagine hitting that sweet Top 8 parlay. Seriously, though, especially with one of the most prestigious tournaments being based IN Las Vegas, I've found it surprising there's not really organized betting around the scene.

[@samuelprescott7426]

I think what really makes Trash Talk works is that the people you're talking with clearly respect you and your work. Keep it up, uncle Brine.

[@vetri99tsukuya20]

That 1st impression from sfv resulted in me never buying sfv to play on my own time. That release was an utter embarrassment.

[@MikeyDLuffy]

Wait, am i misremembering. I remember Yun was not considered an obvious top tier, let alone number 1 in AE 2012. That version was all about Fei Long, Akuma, Viper, Cammy and a few others. In 2012 he got a legit full page of nerfs and I remember very clearly that sooooo many Yun players were pretty doomer about him and straight up dropped him until he got so many buffs back in Ultra.

[@Brian_F]

Sorry it was AE, not 2012.

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@Brian_F oh yea he was turbo broken in AE haha

[@alfredososa3059]

Let those nostalgic people play SF5 for a week straight... See how much they actually think they miss that game

[@numa2k147]

As long as they're having fun it's okay

[@nickkiller-0710]

lmao look at this dude just spiteful cuz people are having fun with SFV

[@bruhyote132]

@@nickkiller-0710 Let’s be real… people are playing SFV out of spite for SF6. This will all come full circle when the next street fighter game drops and SF6 players start going back to 6 lol Shit never ends man, everyone is a hypocrite is the point I’m trying to make.

[@nickkiller-0710]

@@bruhyote132 I don't doubt that some people are doing that, but assuming that the whole thing is born outta spite is too black pilled for me. and well... if people don't like SF6 and decide to play any other FG there's nothing wrong with that either

[@xenontrenton62]

I genuinely still play sfv, still having fun lol.

[@CasperVanDolderen]

to be frank, I went back and played sfv a few times this week. And still playing that game online in europe, is a disaster. Also buttons go nowhere, and combos are pretty limited for a lot of characters.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

Combos are only limited of you don't know what you're doing. You can't just go play a random character and immediantly do a 15 hit combo, like in 6.

[@CasperVanDolderen]

@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 i played both ken and ryu in this game, and combos without v-trigger, are pretty barebones. With v-trigger and the changes they make to your moves, the combos do get longer. But I enjoy the combos in 6 way,way,way more. In the end just my experience ofcourse. I do recognize that characters like oro, the one brian played have more interesting combo routes.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

@@CasperVanDolderen tbf you're played the Ken and Ryu, characters who always change to be the showcase.of new system mechanics. But yeah those 2 are much more fun in SF6.

[@vishaln7145]

I think Idom should co host, you guys both sync pretty well

[@ferro1688]

Definitely needed something like this in the FGC space, great stuff.

[@violetblight69]

As cool as it is bringing in a bunch of people across the FGC, the vibes with this pairing for the less interview-focused episodes are very solid. love seeing this stuff as much as the other episodes.

[@circlechicken]

Enjoyed this episode a lot love seeing you and idom news format

[@brett824]

I went to EVO from 2011-2017 and now again in 2024 and I think this year's was easily my favorite thursday->saturday experience and my LEAST favorite finals day experience. I was lucky enough to wake up super early and get into the "arena" area early and it was still not good. You couldn't leave the arena to get food, etc so you were stuck there for 12~ hours. There were hour+ long lines to get extremely mediocre food so I missed all of the Tekken finals to get a shitty personal pizza. Even the bathrooms were 30~ minute lines at all times.

[@zZTraCe]

Unfortunately for me I’m a noob and sf6 got me into fighting games I can’t even complain , but drive impact is pretty annoying lol

[@daquancurry7805]

Last season of sfv was amazing and alex was amazing

[@Remyl0.0l]

What Max is contributing must have costed loads of money. Are they getting any donations for it to recuperate the cost?

[@Lcg_fgc]

Love the series. Keep it up. Enjoyed idom on. 😊

[@robertgray3710]

I just loved Nash’s theme

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

I loved Nash

[@pakkumon5730]

Idom playing Azucena...is very fitting lol

[@Kasaaz]

I think the DBFZ connection is probably one a lot of people, including myself, didn't make. That really did devour all the hype MvCI might have managed to hold on to.

[@Kaamos123]

My happiest moment was stomping Mike Ross and F.Champ on Excellent Adventures

[@whizthesugoi]

i wonder if it would have been good if you two talked about the MVCI combo tourneys, the system is so deep they do weekly Pokemon Beauty Contests for combos with unique rules and stuff, it's so cool

[@atsali2]

I feel like e-sports parlays won't happen simply because of the amount of shareholders in places like Korea/China. Gambling is extremely regulated if not already administered by the government over there, and just being related to gambling is sometimes grounds for an arrest (See TOP from the korean group Bigbang)

[@Emjoez]

I never lived through the beginning of SFV, I joined in during season 4 as a complete 2D noob, so for me the game was always kinda cool. I think this is also something to consider, not everyone played SFV from the very start

[@sinisterrain2079]

At this point could iDom just be a non-guest ? I mean the 1 on 1 is interesting and all, but I wonder how a 3 way discussion would go with most of the guest that showed up already and future guest. Anyhow, rambling, but I really like the iDom and Brian duo.

[@JQ86]

Things like this make me glad I'm just a newb man. It's nice to just enjoy things without getting lost in the weeds like some of the pros tend to.

[@theuzi8516]

The 'sensible uncle and the bold youngster' chemistry is great.

[@despicableree58]

SFV has the benefit of getting better with time and a larger roster and costumes.

[@TheOrthodoxPaul]

Sfv was my first fighting game and my favourite still. I got in towards the end and played for about 2 years. It was hype and It just felt balanced to me. There was definitely stuff that frustrates me but throw loops, drive rush is just something that is fun but I just liked the slower play in 5. 6 is a game I play for a bit and drop, 5 is a game I can grind all day and have a laugh.

[@Rand8688]

Sf6 needs one thing more costumes for characters so essentially less focus on game pass and create a fighter crap

[@bradjmir]

Idom is the Greg Turkinton of on cinema. And I'm all for it.

[@rhade2688]

I just want sf6 to bring back seth

[@ruanlourenco2312]

Would love if idom was a fixed host for extras

[@shawnr8438]

I love sf6 but i still go back to 5 to play ibuki and sakura

[@HQYZerg]

Shoutouts to Arlieth - best girl in FF7 and has a sick Makoto

[@jj-2372]

Sf6 stans getting mad that people prefer SF5 is hilarious. Sorry we don’t like drive manager 6 🤣

[@TheBenHooks]

"Cliff" and "Arlieth" was just wild

[@PracixFGC]

the final nail in the coffin for MvCI was not being included in EVO. That signaled to all the pros playing it that there was no financial future in marvel and mvci. DBFZ and other FGs offered growth where mvci was bleeding early.

[@obi7841]

im seeing a lot of ppl say it alr but idom as a cohost would be great. it depends on what ur goals are with the podcast but imo having 2 regulars with chemistry plus the occasional guest gives a very good vibe to me bc it feels less like a interview and more like natural conversation

[@Brian_F]

"Trash Talk - Extra Trashy" is the casual topical show which will have rotating guests/co-hosts. Regular "Trash Talk" will be more the more "premium" episodes with in-depth interviews.

[@XeroXenFGC]

You were spitting with the dune tweet

[@mendesfelipe]

SF5 started as a$$, at open beta(vanilla), then we got early access(season2), on season 3, we got a stable release. After 4 years, SF5 was finally fun, getting better and better, until some dumb dev released Luke, and the game was sh1t all over again...

[@numa2k147]

My Manon hero as a regular, you love to see it. As long as people are having fun they can play whatever they want (I miss Kolin)

[@blooddumpster3427]

I don't think anything was really wrong with MvCI except people's perception from the trailers. I think it looks great, aside from a few supers. It's my favorite one to control teams and characters in.

[@aaronortiz7210]

Bc Ibuki not in sf 6 and no one has caught my attention, maybe mai but that’s it

[@newlandworld8930]

They want to see something other than low forward drive rush.

[@olimphus26]

@@newlandworld8930 exactly

[@shrikelet]

Loving the BriDom vibe

[@CocoMura]

I miss watching IDOM's Laura on them TeamSpooki tourneys

[@gallonthegreat7036]

It took sfv 6 years to be decent...dont forget that Sf6 cake out the gate damn near perfect

[@Quince477]

Omg bro if sports betting was in the fgc... I couldn't imagine how much toxicity would be added to the community lmao. "'X player' dropped the combo man they f*ckin suck! I lost $150!!"

[@eebbaa5560]

i remember seeing some people playing sfv all the way back in the first few months after sf6 launched and i couldn’t understand why they’d do that. i understand now.

[@misplaydave]

Return of the king 👑

[@rafaugarte2274]

"suddenly revisiting" yeah i guess 200 players getting back because slow fighter V is easy to SF6, its funny knowing that SFV was considered one of the worst games when it got released, and to make it even more funnier it took like 4 season to b atleast playable, really, SFV was so inferior to IV when it came, why dont people remember the S3 abigail and the trash netcode? really those SFV "nostalgia" fans are one of the most pittiest persons ever

[@markmelancon2914]

Alright, gentlemen. iDom doesn't like Tifa. Roll out the cancel cannon.

[@xcreenplay7264]

1:04:07 that's currently how I feel and why I'm taking a break lol. that game is a hot mess

[@pjbpiano]

😂😂

[@alexanderredhorse1297]

bro called a tournament a toynament

[@masteroak7474]

Glad that Idom seems down to do miscellaneous Trash Talks

[@Blast_S_rank_1]

When you need to complain just call him

[@VDViktor]

when i need a moron, i'll call you

[@downrightfiercerare1565]

Wicked 1 is waaaaaaaaay better than Dune 1. Not just because it's a finished product, but also because you can actually see the film. Dune 1 was dark and grey at times to the point where you could see anything

[@kwamebrownburner5002]

Looks like this works very well

[@massivemendoza]

This comment is too late but I 100% disagree with the switch to the convention center. I don’t think I speak for just myself when I say that seeing EVO Grand Finals in person is a main factor in traveling for the tournament - the hype, the excitement and the energy of the room is key. Not only was it a shit show getting into the venue which absolutely killed the hype, the finals stage was not up to the prestige of the event. Seating sucked, viewing angles sucked, having to stand in line hours in advance to get in to the finals stage was a horrible way to spend my time in a weekend, there were only two restrooms, no re-entry, shitty food with long lines. Yes the actual convention space was larger but i just think that the EVO organizers aren’t the best at maintaining the influx of new attendees. Don’t back down Brian! You were right and it needs to be addressed. We need to go back to Mandalay. The fact that we still don’t have an official location is telling that the convention center was a bad move.

[@GDPanda69]

ANGRY COMMENT ABOUT SOL

[@gatsu718]

Ppl are nostalgic for the complete version of SF5 with all the DLC, Costumes and patches. Cant really compare that to SF6 which is is till in the middle of its life cycle and tbf ppl get annoyed when comparing SF5 turns into calling SF6 trash. I still go back to Alpha 2 and SF3 so its not weird to go back sometimes.

[@damigodFGC]

iDom is a co-host at this point haha

[@nutritionislife3054]

All pros, past and present go back to SF4 and lets see how it turns out

[@lewissteward65]

Kazunko solos

[@RedShogun13]

To be perfectly frank I get there’s an entire denomination of players that are like “SF6 is the best SF in years” but while I enjoy SF6 to a point I do not enjoy it nearly as much as I did SFV by the time it was in Championship Edition (I’m one of the crazies that actually had fun with SFV since its launch actually) and for sure not as much as Ultra SF4. Personally I would rather have crush counter and/or focus attack than DI, DR and the corner being so highly explosive with the game’s mechanics. People say there’s more skill involved in SF6 than even 5 but tbh I still see 6 as riding this wave of “make the game accessible”. The corner for example has been and will always be a bad spot to be in fighting games. However Drive Impact is “anyone can do it” easy with a single button press and you have multiple hits of armor and a crumple or stun in the corner AND it’s safe. Focus attack in 4 was similar but better imo where you had to charge FA 3 levels or get a clean counter hit in order to get a crumple. If you wanted to FADC to make it safe on block you had to spend meter. It wasn’t as free and you had to pick your spots. Also easier to react to. I get that ppl will tell you DI is “easy” to react to if you buffer but I feel like for the average player. I would actually easily rather have crush counter in 6 than DI. As a guy who’s hit Master with a few characters I would say SF6 for me really does feel like a big guessing game compared to the previous 3 entries im acquainted with (3S, 4 and 5). That’s not to say randomness hasn’t existed in every SF game or fighting games in general to varying degrees but usually imo it’s a problem character(s) with exploitable weaknesses that are really putting you in the blender. In SF6 I feel like the game mechanics themselves help the game feel easier for a less skilled player to beat a skilled player and more RNG across the board which I’m really not a fan of. I don’t really struggle in SF6 but I’m not having as much fun with it as I did the first month. I’ve had to completely change the way I play footsies and approach space management in this game in large part to DI (and maybe I have slow reactions but it is what it is, I can’t be the only one). Corner is like twice as oppressive as it is in any other fighting game because you are one wrong button press (or conversely your opponent is one correct single, armored button press) away from death or crumple into a sequence that will kill you/start the universal guessing game into death. I don’t want to poo poo SF6 as it’s a solid entry but I still don’t get the hype behind it. It does feel incredibly random and easier to get beat in for guessing wrong. I liked the whole drive system at launch but like I’ve grown to feel like while creative, has steered this game in a direction I just find mad cumbersome and chore to play at times.

[@Smojiii]

would have been cool if they added the version select for characters after they retired the game like USF4 and hyper2 in SFV

[@Akkbar21]

Ahhh rubber hair. How I missed thee…

[@Shione_Starlight]

Idom might as well be a Co host lmao

[@barrymaslow8441]

No. The first Dune (the novel) would be impossible to condense into a single feature length film. Properly, at least. That bish is, like, 1000 pages! LoL

[@exiaR2x78]

I didnt like SFV when it first launched so stopped playing it mid way through S1. Then played from S3 onwards and enjoyed the game so much. That kind of gives me cope cause I dont like SF6 haha

[@hypnoticflower3152]

I went back to five months ago

[@Cashmoneez]

The sfv roster was miles better than sf6 even just at base

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

*REAL*

[@PartialCollapse]

That’s a crazy take, the base roster sfv was crazy limited that’s before we even discuss the limited content

[@Cashmoneez]

@@PartialCollapse way more diverse and interesting than just sf2 again

[@irishpizza2823]

​@@CashmoneezBig facts, Nash alone makes sfv's roster more interesting.

[@Hillthugsta]

​@@CashmoneezDidnt 5 start with SF2 as well?