Why is Istria Not A Part of Italy?

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sergio perla

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Why is Istria Not A Part of Italy?
In this video, we explore the complex history behind Istria's cultural identity and its separation from Italy. Istria is a peninsula located in the Adriatic Sea, known for its stunning natural beauty and rich cultural heritage. However, its history is much more complex than its reputation might suggest. Join us as we delve into the many factors that contributed to Istria's separation from Italy, from the shifting political alliances of the early 20th century to the rise of nationalism and the aftermath of World War II. We'll also examine the role of Istria's diverse cultural heritage, exploring the ways in which its Italian, Slavic, and other influences have shaped its identity over time. Get ready to explore the complex history behind Istria's cultural identity and its separation from Italy!
0:00 Early settlement and the Romans
0:45 Age of invasion and refugees
1:30 Venice and trade
1:50 Hapsburg and French treachery
2:50 Austro-Hungary
3:30 Impact of the Unification of Italy
4:15 Irridentism
4:50 Germanisation
5:30 Ethic groups and Italian emigration
6:10 The Fiume and Trieste problem and World War 1
7:00 Woodrow Wilson and d'Annunzio
7:50 Italian Fascism and Italianisation
8:10 World War 2 and retribution
9:10 Istrian Dalmatian Exodus and ethnic cleansing
9:45 Division of Istria
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@beppogiglio
@beppogiglio 9 ай бұрын
on 7:51 you say: They were some emigration to the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovens but people like bishop Juraj Dobrila resisted this italianisation.... in fact Dobrila died in 1882., / 40 years before these events/,and in “ some emigration“ emigrated between 40000 and 60000 croats and slovens from Istria There are more such inaccuracies, but in any case congratulations on the effort.
@madaboutsicily
@madaboutsicily 9 ай бұрын
Hi Beppogiglio. thank you for leaving a comment, appreciated. Good spot with Juraj, having re-checked my material, it is in the wrong place as you state. On the "some emigration" point, I deliberately simplify the material (in this case stats.) in order to keep the video reasonably short. Regards
@antoniostraniero1924
@antoniostraniero1924 11 күн бұрын
Gentile dottore vorrei che la storia di quelle terre venga sviscerata attraverso i documenti storici che lei potrà facilmente consul5are in Austria e precisamente a Vienna .Infatti sin dal 1855 l'impero asburgico a favorire la slavizzazione di quelle terre "cosiddette veneziane" ma nel novembre del 1866 questo disegno fu preso di petto dall'imperatore Francesco Giuseppe ,il quale ,per timore dell'irredentismo della popolazione italiana ordinò la cacciata dagli uffici pubblici ,dalle scuole il perso nale di lingua italiana , al cui posto nominava personale di lingua slava , eliminò tutte le trascrizione della lingua italiana e addirittura uso il clero cattolico di lingua slava a truccare gli atti di nascita imponendo nomi slavi ai nascituri . Sia gli Sloveni che i Croati in quei periodi facevano spedizioni punitive nei confronti della comunità italiane ,distruggendo biblioteche ,aziende artigianali e ritrovi .con la complicità della polizia asburgica . A Fiume ,A Zara come a Trieste si ebbero sollevazioni delle popolazione italiche a seguito di efferati omicidi . Addirittura il clero distruggeva i registri di battesimo e di nascita in quanto a quest'ultimi era devoluto il compito.Mi sono permesso di scrivere succintamente questi episodi dolorosi grazie alla ricerca storica fatta da una studiosa croata ,il suo nome è Oleg. Mi riesce difficile a trovare il cognome . Lei certamente può tranquillamente trovare .I fatti ,gli episodi e gli eventi si fanno con la continua ricerca della verità della storia . Sono trascorsi 80 anni dalla fine della guerra ,so bene che quei territori sono oramai Croati e sloveni ,nulla da eccepire . Quello che a me dà fastidio è la falsificazione della storia .. cordiali saluti
@tonkoprcic3428
@tonkoprcic3428 Ай бұрын
Istria was never part of Italy, except during Mussolini and the fascist occupation. That is why it is natural that Istria is not part of Italy.Then people were taken to concentration camps and were forced to change their original names to Italian ones.But also, after the end of the war and the collapse of fascism in Italy, many Italians left Istria and Dalmatia, and some of them were victims of revenge.In general, that part of history is equally painful for Italians, Croats and Slovenes. Fortunately, today the relations and cooperation between these nations are better than ever because they have left the dark part of history behind them.
@Jakez408
@Jakez408 Ай бұрын
The past can never be forgotten. My father witness the first German assault in 1941 of Albona ( Labin, Croatian) . In the second assault the Germans regrouped after being wiped out and returned with tanks. Half the townsmen were killed on that day. That means the families and children that could have been mostly Croats never existed in the 1950,s because the men were killed. Under Tito immigrants came to Labin from all over Yugoslavia and the Istrian culture was nearly destroyed.
@tonkoprcic3428
@tonkoprcic3428 15 күн бұрын
@@Jakez408- I completely agree with you and I stand by what I wrote. The past should not be forgotten precisely because of the bad things that happened and as a warning to prevent it from happening again.
@Trebor-17
@Trebor-17 9 күн бұрын
I was aware of the movements of historical revisionism that exist among Slovenia and Croatia, which try to convince themselves and convince other people that Istria and Dalmatia have always been Slavic Lands, even before reading certain comments. Of course, I also know that not all Slovenians and Croatians are like that, so I'm not generalizing. I'm just saying that Nationalism is a dangerous sentiment for peoples because, unlike simple and genuine Patriotism, it also implies a denial of part of one's own history in favor of others and the claim of a sort of "superiority" over other peoples. Anyone with a minimum of intellectual honesty cannot deny that Istria and some areas of Dalmatia have always been Latin for most of their history, from Ancient Rome to Venice, and that they have been Slavicized several times due to later immigrations and historical policies. These political events caused deaths and deportations of both Slavs and Italians in alternating phases, but it is true for a long time before that the two peoples also lived in peaceful coexistence (Istrians and Dalmatians defined themselves as such, specifying only if they were of Latin or Slavic culture). Having said that, there is a reason why in some Dalmatian areas there was bilingualism with Italian, while it still exists in Istria, or why if you look around you can find the Lion of St. Mark carved for centuries in the stones of churches or walls. In Italy on February 10th the victims of the Julian-Dalmatian Exodus are commemorated, but now it is useless to argue about certain past issues... Today we must be aware that we are all Europeans and that we must pursue peace, tolerance and justice on our continent, trying to positively influence the rest of the world! Greetings from Italy to the Slavic Peoples!
@madaboutsicily
@madaboutsicily 9 күн бұрын
Hi Trebor, thanks for leaving a comment. I hope in time we can all learn (at times uncomfortable) history and maybe we can avoid repeating some mistakes of the past.
@Staniele
@Staniele 8 ай бұрын
i am happy that you use Koper and not Capodistria. as well.. koper is a slovene city.
@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ
@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ 5 ай бұрын
where even the stones speak Italian. Slovenes came in, forced out all the native Italian population and renamed the square "Titov trg". Tell me how Slovene this city is, especially the Venetian Lion in the city center.
@Deanostorm10
@Deanostorm10 4 ай бұрын
You like it or not, the city is officially bilingual Koper/Capodistria
@user-ls8bv9cw5f
@user-ls8bv9cw5f 3 ай бұрын
Capodistria:Giustinopoli.Capris Justinopolis.
@tonkoprcic3428
@tonkoprcic3428 Ай бұрын
@@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ - You have no idea what you are talking about. Those stones are a thousand years older than Italy, which was officially established as a state in 1861.
@antoniostraniero1924
@antoniostraniero1924 Ай бұрын
A volte rispondere ad un ignorante va a finire che ti metti allo stesso livello . Dunque mi cheto nel mio silenzio che urla ! ....​@@tonkoprcic3428
@charliebrown3316
@charliebrown3316 8 ай бұрын
What about africans in this video? Found it quite unsettling and offensive....
@ForryLala
@ForryLala 8 ай бұрын
Same here. Generally a good historical overview, but why the videos about racial conflict in the US? That was very distracting.
@madaboutsicily
@madaboutsicily 7 ай бұрын
Where is there a video about racial conflict in the US?
@LD-wf2yt
@LD-wf2yt 2 ай бұрын
Let's ask a slightly different question: Why should Istria/Istra be part of anyone or anything? The main focus of people living in Istria is tourism and agriculture and that has made people both healthy and friendly. So with that in mind, we should try to change the default way of thinking by asking: who would like to join Istria/Istra.
@madaboutsicily
@madaboutsicily 2 ай бұрын
Hi Ld, thanks for leaving a comment, which I do not disagree with. This is a history channel, and if you have watched the video, people of all sides have not thought as you do, about Istria, in the last 200 years. Thanks for watching
@agaragar21
@agaragar21 10 ай бұрын
I enjoy the clips of people engaging in conflict !......funny !
@pankogulo
@pankogulo 3 ай бұрын
Why is Istria Not A Part of Italy? Becccause 95% inhabitants have always been Croat. Very simple, isn't it?
@madaboutsicily
@madaboutsicily 3 ай бұрын
That is a very sweeping statement over a complex history. I would be interested in your evidence of where the 95% figure comes from
@user-kd8ol2ro9t
@user-kd8ol2ro9t 3 ай бұрын
What abou fiume
@pankogulo
@pankogulo 3 ай бұрын
You mean Rijeka? :)
@filiprabar9091
@filiprabar9091 Ай бұрын
Never, both Istria and Dalmatian cities always had 50% Italian, 50% Slavic population in middle ages until Austro Hungary and Comunnist Yugoslavia
@pankogulo
@pankogulo Ай бұрын
​@@filiprabar9091Don't forget that Italians didn't exist untill 19 century. Croats were in Croatia from 614, AD. First Croatian principality and later kingdom was in Dalmatia. Italy didn't exist then.
@agaragar21
@agaragar21 10 ай бұрын
Lines between Men......madness !
@davorlekenik9563
@davorlekenik9563 6 ай бұрын
Fiorello la Guardia lives in Rijeka (Fiume)
@madaboutsicily
@madaboutsicily 3 ай бұрын
Hi Davor, I thought he lived in Trieste?
@davorlekenik9563
@davorlekenik9563 3 ай бұрын
@@madaboutsicily for Trieste I'm not sure but for Rijeka certenly
@eduarthana9232
@eduarthana9232 3 ай бұрын
Love ❤italy from Albania 🇦🇱 balkan europe
@eduarthana9232
@eduarthana9232 3 ай бұрын
Istria is teritor italy ocupues sllav croatia slovenia
@saonestranedinare644
@saonestranedinare644 8 ай бұрын
I guess because the Tito's boys 👍 sorted out the Benito's boys 👎. Saying that, I do regret post-war 'ethhnic cleansing' and the fact that innocent people were forced out of their homes....as much as I regret all the killing and beating of Dalmatian and Istrian folk 41-43 and before. ❤ and ☮️ to all good (antifa) people wherever they are from.
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