Why is Metroid Prime 3 disappointing to me?

Metroid Prime 3 isn't inherently bad, but it quite hasn't aged that well on me compared to the rest of the prime trilogy
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[@kerfumptledor3668]

You know what's NOT disappointing? The Rundas Boss Theme.

[@subhanmahmood6580]

Best song in the game

[@frostbitepup87]

you know whats NOT dissappointing? the REMIX OF RUNDAS' BOSS THEME BY SASUKESHIKA

[@thetalonking7233]

This.

[@jeffreygilson1565]

I wish they saved him for last

[@madcap3450]

Rundas boss fight made no sense to me. Out of all the hunters hes the one who your most attached to (both as a player and as samus story wise) as well as the one that samus has the most interaction with, yet for some reason hes the one that dies first has the least interaction with samus while corrupted and the only one who doesn't speak while corrupted

[@halowillneverbegoodagain1868]

The Olympus/Norion tutorial was very long but at least it had alot of action unlike Twilight Princess' 5 hours of house chores.

[@Zergliskful]

I love Twilight Princess, but the wait until things actually happen is woohoo long.

[@elvampe13]

Speaking of Twilight Princess, did you notice how the game never bothers to explain why the Goblins kidnapped the village children and Link's gf? The goblins literally drop them off in Kakariko village later on.... but what was the point of kidnapping them in the first place?

[@Zergliskful]

@2dollaslices Its a fair bit too short for it to be an entire zone, but it's tacked on with the first area. It feels tacked on, and Norion just doesn't seem like it's that important, even later on it is nearly not worth visiting.

[@lystic9392]

It's like 1 hour in the HD remaster. I would highly advise that version. It has some of the best Zelda dungeons ever.

[@LinksYTLink]

I'm not even Biased to like it... Even though I go through it every time someone makes a new game

[@latrodectusmactans7592]

I think Corruption would have been better if Hyper Mode started weaker and got stronger as you progress, slowly becoming more and more tempting.

[@ethanclark640]

this is genius, still love this game though

[@Jqcksremmurd]

And it started to cost more HP to use to balance it and reflect how the phazon is growing and becoming more and more deadly to samus.

[@jdcabrera9646]

You thought it was a Prime Hunters review... But it was I, Prime 3!

[@spartanq7781]

I assume he means with the exception of that thing. Though who knows but him?

[@jdcabrera9646]

Spartan Q77 nah. I was referring to a poll he made on Twitter.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Is that a mofo JoJo reference?

[@jdcabrera9646]

OtakuUnitedStudio yes. And we love it.

[@patrickdees5256]

PRIIIME 3!!!!!!!

[@villanjo]

There's a typo on the tittle, it's spelled "Other M" not "Prime 3".

[@NamekianG]

@max wheeler What story?

[@sammygorilla8688]

Prime 3 dosent deserve that name.

[@Austroid]

Prime 3 will likely always be my favorite of the trilogy. Fantastic motion controls I can't imagine playing without, a bigger emphasis on story, actually traveling to multiple planets, etc. "Its a cinematic Metroid done right" is something I've always thought and stood by.

[@tenebrousnova636]

If there's one thing I loved most about Corruption, it was the environments. Skytown and Phaaze in particular were just beautiful. I also loved the horror aspect in some areas, like the Xenoresearch Labs, where you have to knowingly turn off the power to get out of the building whilst releasing the Phazon Metroids which start stalking you. And of course the GFS Valhalla, where a bloodbath took place. That ruined ship put me on edge and made me want to get out of there as soon as possible. If you looked out of the windows you could even see countless Metroids floating out there in the blood red nebula. I just wish Phaaze wasn't such a linear location and that we could've explored it more. Plus I found the bizarre lifeforms there fascinating and would've loved to see more of them. The possible connection between the Dark Aetherian Ing Horde and the Phaz-Ing, the significance of Metroid Prime exoskeletons in the Genesis Chamber, I needed more lore!

[@PokeDeses]

I never noticed the sameish color pallettes in Prime 3. Probably because we came from Prime 2 where Dark Aether's pallettes were identical all the way through, both for environments and enemies.

[@philipcorley5713]

Ben Glasser So true, the Sanctuary Fortress was an amazing and beautiful surprise. The Luminoth said cliffs and I was thinking, more rocks and such. Not that technologically advanced, pretty blues and greens, structure. However, the Dark Aether side of it looked much the same as other section, as Deses was referring to. I think there was a lot more red and the layout was cool, but it was that same darkness aspect again.

[@PokeDeses]

The Ing Hive was certainly the best-looking part of Dark Aether... but that was due to Sanctuary Fortress' merits alone. Dark Aether as a whole was an aesthetic slog.

[@Jdudec367]

even then I'd say comparing like bryoo to the pirate homeworld there pretty different so yeah there is some variety.

[@Alex-mb2cy]

Prime 3 is actually my favorite Prime, maybe even favorite Metroid.

[@Aycheffe]

Let me guess, you like call of duty and halo as well

[@Alex-mb2cy]

@@Aycheffe COD no, Halo is ok

[@PBody54M]

I enjoyed Corruption more than Echoes, but I felt like it didn't leave as much of a lasting impact as Echoes or especially the original Prime. At the time, I attributed this to the game's shorter length and easier difficulty... but watching this video has helped me consider that there were other factors that contributed to its lack of impact.

[@subhanmahmood6580]

Prime 3 is actually my favorite in the trilogy lol

[@musicalmuddinto4256]

Prime 3 is good, has some flaws like the aurora units hints, but my favourite bit of prime 3 is phaze and how badass dark samus is

[@Hammudiii]

Where did you get that picture of sylux? I need that pic haha

[@subhanmahmood6580]

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[@starman5901]

Subhan Mahmood really poor kid

[@zxopixel]

Mine was mp2

[@fredjones2170]

While I agree with your issues regarding Hypermode and the Gunship loading screens, I still think Prime 3’s an amazing game, and still has a lot of pros that should be mentioned: For example, it’s by far THE most detailed game in the entire Metroid series, and I see something new every time I play, from a brief glimpse of a Reptilicus spying on you to the tiny claw marks left by a Metroid-killed Pirate. Sure, most of the planets have warm color palettes, but their unique architecture sets them apart. Plus, I loved how much worldbuilding it did, introducing two new alien cultures and their complete history, as well as revealing far more about the Pirates and Federation than any other game. It’s still a fantastic game in my opinion, and I think it’s highly underrated.

[@ethanboschke1564]

I love prime 3, i do believe phazoids are very annoying but hyper mode is incredibly balanced with the early game having not have much energy tanks making using hyper mode risky, fire power for health sacrifice, later game enemies have high health and higher attack making using hyper mode even riskier to use lest you lose more health so you have to use it smarter. Metroid prime 3's tutorial is epic it builds the hype at the beginning by getting you attached to the motion controls and getting you into the story. The norion secrion was to get you set into the fighters for when they later turn on you so you get attached to them and then ending it with ridley which was awesome. The game is very linear near the beginning but doesnt feel like it since after the initial dropoff you dont truly have much direction especially as the game opens up later on in the game. Especially with the side quest on bryyo. The areas may look similar but you forgot to mention some areas that are way different from the main areas like ice bryyo, norion later half of the game, metroid xenoreaserch, and all the leviathan seeds. I dont know why this seemed to trigger me prob because prime 3 was my firstand favourite metroid game.

[@alejandrovaldez9848]

I think this is why I love the franchise so much. Everyone has their own favorite, people don’t like 1 as much as 2, others hate fusion, 3 is disappointing to some people, others enjoy other M ( I’m one of them), and others prefer the OG. One of the games is bound to stick onto you with your own experience.

[@onairwithjarvis]

I'm almost done prime 3. Though I do find prime and prime 2 more enjoyable, prime 3 is still a fun game for me. Good critiques, sir!

[@jdcabrera9646]

The Warhammer Podcast yeah, i feel that too. A similar case happens to me in regards to Crash 1, when compared to the othet Naughty Dog titles of the franchise.

[@Vvonter]

I think each game on repeated playthroughs have their quirks. Metroid Prime 1 can have some downtime by the middle of the game like the underwater Frigate Orpheon. Metroid Prime 2 has the most backtracking in the main campaign, and Metroid Prime 3 has the long tutorial and its more mission combat based than exploratory. IMO Prime 2 feels like the longest, because you're essentially travelling through the whole game in both light and dark worlds. It has the most morphball puzzles and might be the hardest.

[@willjoyce5013]

Prime 2 feels the longest because you have to do everything twice and the backtracking is downright awful for 80% of the game, Prime did it right

[@lystic9392]

I played all 3 in a row and I actually thought MP3 set up the series to go in very interesting directions.

[@deangel9128]

Thanks for the shoutouts.

[@TheOrpheon]

Dont mention it, fan of your work. Keep turning invisible you lovable space pirate

[@TWO_THOUSAND_SEAVY_HEAVY]

Your so easy dude go back to pirate homework’s get some upgrades

[@dougrious_diswiggle]

Lol I just killed u. Thx for the suit tho. ;)

[@TheEel228]

HEY you don't diss BRYYO'S MAIN TUNE THAT TRACK IS LIT

[@Nyxael5845]

*Not enough beef.*

[@AngelSamael]

The Bryyo them was awesome, it may not have been subtle but Bryyo wasn't subtle.

[@ElZamo92]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVED Metroid Prime 3:Corruption. It might be my favourite game in the Prime series now that I think about it. In order from best to least good it’s Corruption first, Prime in a close second and Echoes in a bit of a more distant third. I played all the games in Metroid Prime: Trilogy, which I bought because it was less than half the price as other games, but this one was actually three AND came in a pretty metallic box. I loved them all, but I specially like 3 for the reason everyone hated it: the motion control levers and buttons and other crap like that.

[@link_legend819]

The main thing about prime 3 is that it was aimed at a more casual audience than a core audience, so most of the design choices make sense. -also that title is so clickbait.- Edit: the discord link takes you to the megaman channel on your server. Is that intentional?

[@AshkarBehek0]

I find the thumbnail more clickbait then the title, lol.

[@willjoyce5013]

Then they messed up with the audience clearly lol, I doubt many went out of their way to get it

[@link_legend819]

@@willjoyce5013 the Wii was mainly popular with a casual audience. Even then, that doesn't make it a bad game. It just is very different the previous entries.

[@willjoyce5013]

@@link_legend819 No, just being a Wii title doesn't make it being a bad game, correct, being basically the worst Metroid game ever outside of the spinoffs and the one we don't talk about makes it a bad game comparatively. Also, they did fine with games like Twilight Princess on the same console with the same casual audience admittedly.

[@link_legend819]

@@willjoyce5013 twilight princess was a GameCube game. The mainline Zelda on the Wii, Skyward Sword, has a lot of mixed opinions as well.

[@Sayhaa73]

Why do people hate the dark commandos? Just shoot a charge dark shot and missile, and that's that.

[@jimmyjohnjoejr]

Same reason people hate chozo ghosts. It's just annoying and unnecessary to fight them.

[@Sayhaa73]

@@jimmyjohnjoejrYeah I hate chozo ghosts a lot more, but I usually just don't even bother fighting them unless I have to. The ghosts are only vulnerable to the power beam and when the phase they have no tell.

[@Blitz1Blacktail1]

Dark Commandos and Chozo Ghosts by themselves aren't too ridiculous. The pet peeve for the Commandos is that you kinda have to fight them due to the area locking down.

[@bluecaptainIT]

I do agree they're both annoying... The commandos moreso, but a good amount of missiles deals with them pretty fast.

[@jocrek]

I was going to draw, but NOOOO... The Orpheon had to upload a video just now!!!... Well at least is good content.

[@TheOrpheon]

Hope you enjoyed it

[@mulch7685]

@@TheOrpheon just wanted to say I enjoy your content to the point where I just go "yay!" when a new video is out.

[@mulch7685]

Hope your drawing goes great!

[@SommersetStriker]

I disagree with you, but I respect your opinion. For me, the wii controls really made me feel like Samus more than any other game. I'd say that Echoes is the best of the three, but Corruption is still one of my favorite wii games. Although it definitely suffers from "third game" syndrome. Great content as always!

[@illusion9685]

It's still Mertroid It's still good p.s. federation force sucks

[@MohinderPictures409]

Metroid franchise is shit.

[@MasterBuller]

@@MohinderPictures409 your opinion is shit

[@KillerSmile559]

Federation Force ain't that bad. I enjoy it. My honest opinion, it just got released at a bad time. The mission structure is suitable for a handheld game.

[@rustedgearbox7064]

Möhinder Pictures y tho

[@spookster3384]

@@MohinderPictures409 I think you are on the wrong channel

[@ElstrobeBlanco]

Prime 3 is good too, its just different

[@Ramseas119]

Reads description *GRAMMAR* *NAZI* *INTENSIFIES* Metroid Prime 3 isn't inherently bad, but it hasn't aged well, compared to the rest of the Prime Trilogy, in my opinion. I'm sorry, I just want you to be seen respectably! you're one of the more popular Metroid KZbinrs I've seen, gotta give the community a good reputation. keep on making great content!

[@TheOrpheon]

Sorry English is my second language, how would you properly write it then?

[@Ramseas119]

I honestly didn't know that, what's your first? I know English can be one of the hardest languages to learn, but its complexity also allows for some pretty amazing flexibility. As for your question, the way I would re-write it would be something like "Metroid Prime 3 isn't inherently bad, but it hasn't aged well, compared to the rest of the Prime Trilogy, in my opinion."

[@willjoyce5013]

The description is excessively kind anyways, it's not inherently bad if you discard every clearly better Metroid game which is 90% of them, if you compare it to Other M, Hunters and other terrible spinoffs it looks downright decent lol.... the game hasn't aged well as it was never well to age in the first place, it has aged worse than basically every main Metroid title ever as it's badically the worst main one and if it was Prime 1 we wouldn't have gotten sequals

[@imafreakinninja12]

He also said "to freaking long"

[@Ramseas119]

@krooltyfree yeah, that actually sounds quite a bit better. Thanks for the tip, I'll be watching that more often. Even the people who've been speaking this language their whole life have trouble with it.

[@tommyblack6135]

I like to think of Prime 3 as a 3D realization of Fusion's nice balance between narrative, atmosphere, and exploration...you know, the last hurrah before Other M pushed the narrative way too much at the expense of the other elements.

[@Chaklun96]

I agree, and I really liked Fusions aa well, specifically for its most linear yet story-driven approach :) Though I wouldn't say Prime 3 is my favourite of the trilogy neither... I like each of them for different reasons

[@rustedgearbox7064]

I’ll be honest though I like prime 3 and fusion but I think fusion did it much better

[@goji1473]

Prime 2 is the hardest one, Prime 3 is the easiest one. In the end the first is the most balanced of the trilogy.

[@jacksonpercy8044]

Maybe in general, but in terms of bosses (in Hypermode difficulty) I found Corruption to be a lot harder. Especially Dark Samus and the Aurora Unit.

[@Alex-mb2cy]

@@jacksonpercy8044 Corruption on Hypermode difficulty was really challenging, at least at the beginning.

[@MadSociety-uy6zg]

@Rayman Legends prime 1 was not the easiest lol don't know what game you were playing but I remember metroid prime one enemies and bosses were tough and could be scary at times and I loved it the dark atmosphere I loved that in the first 2

[@MadSociety-uy6zg]

@Rayman Legends same even though I'm not worried too much until I see gameplay first

[@MadSociety-uy6zg]

@Rayman Legends prime 3 was more easier for me compared to the first two games not much challenged and sorry if I sounded rude before lol just prime 1 and 2 I died more than prime 3 prime I still dye in just not as much as the first 2 metroid prime games I love the metroid prime trilogy hope they either port or remaster the metroid prime trilogy for Nintendo switch that would make me happy until metroid prime 4 is released

[@mantrad0r]

I personally like prime 3 more than 2. no matter where I went in prime 2 I never really knew what to do. I just walked around an hour and suddenly something different happend. Even if I see where I need to go and know (or assume to know) the way to my destination, I get stuck in a room that doesnt really looks like there would be something. In the best case there would be a trigger or button I need to activate somewhere behind a wall with no visual clue to what I need to do exactly. I have some kind of dreadful feeling when ever I play it. I just think about all the annoying enemies like these weird tantacle balls which randomly change between immortal and attackable. I didnt feel like that while playing prime 1 or 3. In prime 1 I was fascinated by my surroundings and in prime 3 I never used the hyper mode as I feared that I would instantly lose if I dont get the phazon out of samus fast enough and I felt challenged but not annoyed(you stated that it gets boring and unrewarding as you basically only fight with it and makes new equipment useless/not noteworthy). Some enemies even have multiple ways to deal with either by shooting or using the grapple beam and I really enjoyed defeating my enemies like that. I hope you understand what I am trying to say. Its 2am and I am not sure if I was able to write logically constructed sentences with grammatical correctness. (I really enjoy your videos and am always happy to see new uploads from you.)

[@TacynMegan]

Metroid prime 3 tutorial is nothing Try ANY Kingdom Hearts game .... Jesus

[@bluemight123]

So true for Kingdom Hearts 2's first 3 hours of gameplay... KH2 is by far my prefered KH game but I find the part with Roxas really annoying. But except KH2 I don't think other KH games have too much tutorial. KH1 intro can be a bit long too but is way more fun imo.

[@spookster3384]

Twlight princes...

[@matteste]

Try Persona 5 then, 30 hours in and it is still spewing tutorials all over you.

[@awesomefan935]

The game wasn’t disappointing at all. MP3 is the reason I found metroid in the first place, a great game where you go to multiple planets, face bosses that would be invincible if you didn’t have a specific upgrade. A game where your quote friends turn evil and you have to kill them to advance, a game that has a character that throughout the story has less and less emotion and becomes more broken to the point at the end she doesn’t seem to care about the federation and uses them to get to the last location to finish dark Samus. This game was epic and one of the best I’ve ver played. When metroid prime 4 was announced, I was excited because of the memories of this game

[@n0refuge]

I would love the next Prime game to explore the concept of planet jumping like Prime 3, but not be as linear or blocked off and having to use the gunship to move around as much. Imagine having 3 giant areas to explore with their own sub zones to them. How cool would that be?

[@toxicastigator]

Damn....I mean Prime 3 wasn’t INCREDIBLE, but I loved the new bounty hunters, and the environments and planets were some of my favorites in the series.

[@PlayerZeroStart]

"When you think of memorable regular enemies... you might think off the Chozo Ghosts..." Oh yeah, super memorable... memorable because the ghosts were super fucking annoying to fight and I hated every second of it so it's burned itself deep into my subconscious.

[@simonelovino4021]

Can I give a suggestion for a video? I think that "why Other M is disappointing?" could be cool.

[@AnuBis-kf4bg]

Echoes was my favorite and corruption is my 2nd favorite. I agree about the maps being linear but the story and mechanics made up for it. And I've replayed corruption numerous times, and I'm going to start playing it again because of this video.

[@spartanq7781]

Prime 3 was a big improvement in controls over the GameCube games. Actually being able to aim and move at the same time is a monumental improvement. Aiming is still lock on and shoot only you got to point at the screen. It would have been far better if there weren't an aim feature and that you had to aim manually via the motion controls. That would make this the greatest shooter controls....ever. The game as many say is way too easy. I feel like it was because it was on the Wii which was perhaps the most accessible console ever. The game needed a much higher difficulty a bit harder than Prime 1. The phazon mode should be discouraged. You should seldom use it as it should drain your health akin to dark Aeither quickly. Prompting you to use is sparingly. Phazon enemies by proxy would actually be difficult to deal with. The planets are far to narrow in this game and because they are different planets there are no cohesion between them. However that couldn't be avoided because of the Wii's lack of a second analog stick that could be used for camera controls. It's something that hurt Skyward Sword a lot and the remake on Switch makes it more obvious when you can move the camera and see just how narrow that game was. Still though I wish motion control gaming evolved rather than for the most part getting scrapped. The Switch could do it all. It functions the way should have been and have the motion controls of the Wii. We could have gotten Prime Trilogy on Switch and new game with motion controls and of course regular controls. The Joycons actually have a second analog stick so it could do it all but Nintendo is not utilizing to it's fullest potential.

[@ArmaBiologica35]

No It's not. How many games end with the protagonist saving the universe while dealing with a terminal sickness? Is it flawed? Sure, but dissapointing, It's not.

[@XeratoneReal]

He said that if he compared it too its full potential that it fell short he also said at the end that he loved the game so much that these flaws were a bigger issue to him.

[@Joamori1054]

I love Prime 3, this game is my first Prime game and the second Metroid game i had :)

[@CapnShades]

You say towards the end that you don't think this game is bad, just flawed. So that begs the question... WHY is the video titled "Metroid Prime 3 SUCKS!!"?

[@jdcabrera9646]

Ace of Shades this is the Under The Red Scope video on Crash 1 all over again. Great video, but a bad title.

[@CapnShades]

He... kinda fixed it. I guess.

[@robertpowell9982]

I actually have a theory about Dark Samus's lack of involvement in the story overall...and that's basically to be just a big mindfuck for Samus. She wants Samus to find her way to Phaaze, she wants Samus to defeat the other hunters, she wants to finish her off herself because when Samus is out of the way there's nothing stopping her from taking over the Galaxy. It really doesn't matter to her what happens to the Space Pirates because she was only just using them anyways, and because they were thirsty for Phazon they were easily malleable for her needs. Dark Samus wanted Samus to succeed until she could finish her off herself as her final act of vengeance against the one who disturbed her beauty sleep on Tallon IV. Dark Samus probably felt she was at an advantage on Phaaze so she did nothing to stop her and the federation from getting there. Heck after Samus was dealt with the Galactic Federation was right there for the pickings since the only reason they managed to escape was because Dark Samus was defeated to begin with. All she had to do was send in another hourde of Phazon Metroids to wipe out the entire GF crew.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

I agree with a lot of the criticisms here but I honestly don't think the game actually sucks. It's still a good game, just not the best one.

[@TheBrutalSax]

He stated that he really likes the game.

[@PrestoHaes60]

it would be cool if the more you use the hyper beam in prime 3 the more infected with phazon you be and in the end you get another ending of maybe samus being corrupted by dark samus like the other hunters

[@VergilPeterson]

The tutorial for mp3 is pretty damn good imo. When I first played it, it didn’t even cross my mind that this is a tutorial (other than the instructions). Norion was a good intro to the action

[@keslerjenkins9683]

Same man. Not all Metroids have to open like mp1 and 2. It was wonderful actually setting foot on board a federation ship, and saw first hand what they where like, and the opening was befitting of a the final game in the franchise. My only real problem with prime 3 tbh is that I feel like they should've refined the combat mechanics more to match the more action heavy

[@answerforlife4297]

It was nice to see your opinion on this topic. As someone whose favorite Metroid game is Prime 3, it was nice to see your view on why you don't like it. *The tutorial stage is one of my favorite events in Prime 3*

[@Metruzanca]

The addition of the gunship while cool for the missions that required you to pick stuff up, was like the addition of teleporting bonfires in DS3

[@johnleonard9102]

I like Corruption more than Prime 1; Corruption doesn't have you slogging through Magmoor Caverns 5 times.

[@dgn1ckla571]

If you want a challenge try and beat the prime trilogy on Hypermode difficulty :D

[@Metruzanca]

Something I've always wondered is that this game kind of implies that the federation modified the chozo suit. Would have made more sense if they give you the power up once you wake up and your suit integrates it into itself.

[@KuroSamaXV]

Rapid use of hypermode in Hypermode difficulty is a bad thing actually. Less health drops and hypermode is nerfed making it only useful against enemies that require it.

[@joeduffy4547]

7:33. I am The Nitpicker but the "To" should be a "Too". Gotta love the English language, am I right?!!

[@J4keJ]

The bosses from prime 1 pissed me off (like the war wasp mini boss) but at least they all had different gimmicks and it was challenging to figure out how to beat them the first time. I always felt 3 was boring compared to the first two as a kid and you explained why perfectly

[@TheGreenKnight500]

Prime 3 felt more like it was trying to be more of a Halo knockoff than a Metroid game. I never felt the same sense of isolation and dread in 3 that I did in the first two games.

[@frname7665]

It's not. It's a fantastic game, like the other Metroid Prime games

[@willjoyce5013]

By comparison to the others it's the worst though by a wide margin

[@frname7665]

Will Joyce: No. Many people say the same for Echoes. Your opinion is not the spoken truth.

[@willjoyce5013]

Ok, go check game reviews and such then lol, I'll gladly wait for you to get other spoken words than my own, how funny

[@frname7665]

I know everything I need to know on that matter and it's nothing likely to make me change my mind. Every single game of the trilogy is wonderful, MP3 is the most different, and that doesn't mean it's less good in any way.

[@willjoyce5013]

Admittedly that comes off as a wishy washy way of not recognizing in a trilogy that there is almost invariably a better, middle and worse portion but I guess if you personally manage to see them as equal despite Prime 1 being generally regarded as one of if not the best GC titles I guess that's an opinion of sorts.

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

Thank you for making this video. You have perfectly articulated the exact reasons I'm not really a fan of Prime 3. I'd have to play it again to see if my perspective has changed at all, but the fact that it's been like 8 years since I've bothered to play Corruption kind of speaks for itself - whereas I've messed with Echoes within the past year, and I only stopped replaying Prime 1 since I've gotten as much out of it as I possibly could. Also: I love your tastes in music! Bomberman Hero and Mario Tennis 64 ftw :)

[@ShadowVaria]

I still think GFS Valhalla is one of my favourite areas in the Prime series. While it is linear, going back through proves just as daunting as going deep inside.

[@VideoGameAnimationStudy]

See, I can't help but go into this video in an already defensive state of mind, as I really enjoyed MP3. So I'm already looking for things to disagree with, and I think it's just because of how the video is titled. It's already saying my opinion is wrong. I'll watch it anyway..

[@TheOrpheon]

I have updated the title and thumbnail to avoid this problem in the future, thanks in part by the feedback from the comments (always appreciate it) will avoid this in the future t

[@VideoGameAnimationStudy]

@@TheOrpheon You're very responsible, you didn't necessarily have to do that for me, but it's very kind you did. Don't let that put you off making great content though! Keep it up!

[@gabrielyosei7565]

And you can't change the beam :/

[@dawritersroom01]

I wouldn't call the opening segments of Prime 3 a tutorial. It's more of a prologue, if anything. The story has already kicked off, you're already (hopefully) well-versed in the gameplay, there is no need for a tutorial. Heck, I don't really see the Metroid series (except Other M) as a series that uses tutorial stages at all. They just throw you in, and you learn as you go through the game.

[@porky1118]

Sky town is one of the best locations in any game.

[@racekitty]

Fun fact Metroid Prime 3 was my first and favorite Metroid game

[@mr.silverback8005]

Echoes was the best of the prime trilogy

[@mr.mendelli6224]

Corruption's control scheme is a pain in the ass for the modding community. I've been trying to help out with projects like PrimeHack, but like I said: It's a pain in the ass. I think what Corruption suffers from is accessability. I believe another KZbinr said it, and I'm not trying to steal their words, but it's true. Corruption was designed for noobs to try and get more players that aren't familiar with the Metroid franchise or involved. A similar comparison would be the scan pulse from Samus Returns. It also doesn't help that the game was also designed to sell the Wii's primary gimmick; It's control interface.

[@tronmerncutsman]

I have three main issues with the game that make this my least favorite of the trilogy. 1. The map designs. I'm not a fan of more planets at the cost of interconnectivity and openness. Needing to use your ship to go everywhere kind of sucked, and there were no huge places where you could really get lost. 2. The load times are way too long. I know this may seem minor, but needing to wait 10 seconds at a door every two minutes gets really tiring over time. And flying in the ship took forever too. 3. The difficulty balancing is just a mess. Either it's too easy, or it's too hard. Playing on lower difficulties makes hypermode broken, yet encouraged, while playing on hard makes hypermode an absolute necessity. Playing on hard is a total chore, since enemies take WAY too long to kill, even with hypermode. And since most of the enemies are annoying to begin with, playing on hard makes the entire game a lot more obnoxious as a whole. But if you don't play on hard, the game becomes a totally mindless kill fest fueled by phazon. Either way, you're either making the game a total breeze or a tedious slog, and that's not cool. It also really messes up the progression because of this. Getting new beams never feels good, since they never really feel more powerful due to this messed-up balancing. I play Prime 1 and 2 on hard all the time, and they're two of my favorite games of all time. 3, on the other hand, just doesn't do it for me. It's good, and I do like it a lot, but it fails to live up to what came before it in a ton of ways.

[@TheOrpheon]

I agree a lot with your feelings, the maps can be very confusing on the planets of this game

[@VampirewthBraces]

I do agree with a lot of your criticisms though I would like to make an argument. About the long tutorial: I do agree, it is quite long though I do believe it serves as a great storytelling and immersion technique. I've played through the Prime series again myself quite recently and I found myself enjoying getting immersed into the war-like bureaucratic state of the Olympus. This does hamper the game's replayablity since the second or third time around it does hold the players back and its slow paced nature does feel like a drag. I've played Prime 3 three times and each were more than six years apart which I think is more than enough time to forget the exact layout of the game and forget the introduction is in fact an introduction so I can see why a fan who would play it more frequently would be more frustrated with it but I'd still like to point out the introduction's ability to immerse the player into the world much like Fallout 3's "Growing Up In The Vault" introduction.

[@DachshundDogStarluck19]

I find Metroid Prime 3: Corruption underwhelming and at times, frustrating to play with its garbage Wii controls.

[@старшийсержант-л7ш]

i really hated the motion controlls the fact that i have to always center my aim to not start rotating / looking around . honestly its jsut feels unconfortable in the wrist

[@robertpowell9982]

I do agree that it was the definite weaker game of the Trilogy...Prime 1 and Prime 2 are both easily in my Top 10 favourite games of all time, if not Top 5. Prime 3 was a lot more story driven, and as a result it ended up being a lot more linear in comparison, at least that's how it felt. Hypermode was too strong, and a lack of memorable boss fights other than Ridley, the Hunters and Dark Samus. Speaking of Dark Samus, I felt the final fight was the most disappointing aspect of this game since this was suppose to be the closer for the Trilogy and while Dark Samus herself was a decent battle (though not very difficult) the AU 313 was quite underwhelming and actually kind of felt rushed in a sense, like the team went "oh s***! We need a final boss fight, well we mentioned the stolen AU that one time so let's use that!" I'm also not really a fan of the 'point of no return' mechanic used in video games, such was the case in Phaaze, and since we were exploring Phaaze with a time limit I never felt very compelled to actually explore as much as I wanted, though there wasn't too much to discover since it's just a straight path to Dark Samus. With all that said I still think it's a great game, no where near as disappointing as Other M and it at least has it's moments that made it stand as a Metroid title. There is a reason why people considered it the 'last good Metroid game', at least before Prime 4 and Samus Returns was announced.

[@ZetaNiGHT]

As a huge metred fan whose 1st game was in fact prime 3, I can attest that it was a great starting point! Having played pretty much Every other metroid game by this point, I can see where we coming from with a lot of these grievances, and yeah for someone just starting the series who wouldn't be coming from the others to realize these, it would be a bit more ideal I suppose. It really is too bad about the dumbed down gameplay, but Its implementation of the story is probably my favorite in the series, and its motion controls were by far one of the most tolerable on the wii... Heck I think I'd even go as far as to say that the tactile sensations of certain interactions like the batteries and what not are pretty enjoyable and immersive to some degree.

[@spartanq7781]

That motion control bit made me think of Some call me Johnny's review of this game. Then you mentioned that you'd borrowed some of his footage. Good I thought I was going crazy.

[@CapnShades]

*Low and behold

[@AlexRodriguez-oo9yu]

Spartan Q77 Beware, the grammar Nazis are out in force tonight. It’s dangerous to go alone! Take this! *Webster’s dictionary*

[@spartanq7781]

@@AlexRodriguez-oo9yu There I fixed it the grammar Nazi's have nothing on me now.

[@TheOrpheon]

Im a huge fan of Johnny he inspired me to make videos so I wanted to pay tribute to him. Would be an honor to collab/meet him or have feedback

[@DCG909]

Metroid Prime 3 was actually my entry to Metroid. I can see where the criticism is coming from and personally my favorite in the Prime series is 2.

[@correllroyhdatitsbest3492]

Also, "The Orpheon" THANK YOU for speaking the TRUTH! I agree the game is graphically and storyboarded better but has not much memorable! I love the MP1 and MP2EC for the adventure and unknown exploration and atmosphere (I hope Nintendo does remember that for MP4) that each door and portal took me through :) Also, Mechanic wise, I do love more exploration of the Grapple, Visor details, and more use of beams to solve puzzles.

[@XeratoneReal]

Exactly what I thought

[@PokeNerd2499]

I mean... I didn't really use Hyper Mode all that much during my first playthrough of Prime 3 unless it was ABSOLUTELY necessary, and I ended up wasting a lot of health anyway considering I'm a pretty terrible shot sometimes ;-;

[@supaboy339]

(Terrible shot) Lock on mode accuracy not required

[@madbrosheo1514]

I pretty much have the same criticisms. But one thing you didn’t mention is that it really doesn’t encourage exploration like the previous games. All the really important upgrades are practically given to you, so even if you don’t explore for upgrades, you’ll still have an easy time. Compared to the previous games where if you didn’t explore much, it would be hard, but if you explored thoroughly, it would be a breeze. But even it was harder, it wouldn’t matter because the final stretch of the game on Phaaze doesn’t take your upgrades into account at all. Which is quite frankly kinda insulting. Why spend the extra time to get all the upgrades if they will just become useless for the final battle?

[@yuriridley8144]

13:29 It's pronounced Chaika, not Chika.

[@Wxyver_n]

MP3 reminds me of Halo a lot

[@Taiknight99]

Swarm of enemies? Hyper Mode. Boss Fight? Hyper Mode. Lost car keys? Hyper mode. I liked MP3 but Hyper mode made combat so brain dead. Also still lovin the MMBN music!

[@cowbelljack]

I absolutely love all the Prime games, and for the longest time I thought 1 > 3 > 2. But since then I've gone back with a more critical view and I think it's become 1 > 2 > 3. I absolutely love 3 but not quite as much as the others. You mention some excellent points that even during my early playthroughs of 3 I couldn't quite explain. The environments looking too similar, lack of memorable music, the bosses sharing the same patterns and color pallettes. These things may be minor when viewing 3 as its own game, but when compared to the other two it feels so lacking at times! I love the way you've analyzed these and I agree with you on so many points. Thanks for articulating what I've not been able to!

[@manuelarturog]

Echoes is the best one in the trilogy.

[@Likhos1]

Metroid Prime 3 is probably the prime game where the environments are among the most gorgeous. I kinda consider phaazoids to be a minor inconvenience, the only issue they give me is that they are not always placed in the most advantageous places. Hypermode is something I tend not to use that much. I usually tend to use the vanilla abilities and abuse hypermode when I need time and can't afford a fight. Bosses are pretty disappointing on a technical standpoint indeed. I suppose it's because aiming was enough of a challenge that they didn't want to spice it up too much? Dark Samus being underused, fuck yes, even if we consider the corrupted hunters to be Dark Samus fights per proxy, I kinda feel only one Dark Samus fight was quite sad to see compared to the previous game. but my biggest gripe is the handholding. You can't escape the Hint system even when it's supposed to be off because of the plot, and it's pretty annoying. I understand it has a reason to be there, but I'd hope they don't force it on Metroid prime 4.

[@TheOrpheon]

You can escape the hint system in the menu settings, but the AU unit conversations will still happen, but the map prompt wont trigger afterwards. My biggest disappointment honestly is the lack of Dark Samus's presence in the overall game, considering she is kinda the main focus of it (especially in all the game's marketing) Echoes was a great introduction to the character that I thought we might see more interactions from her in the game :,(

[@jaypeterman9721]

I only played Prime 3 once. I at least went back to the 1st and 2nd multiple times and enjoyed those games even till this day. I’m not a fan of of continuously holding the wii remote to keep the reticle trained on the screen. While I could play the first two games for hours on end, I couldn’t play this game for more than an hour at a time. Maybe that is the limitation of the hardware, but I wished that there was an option to have the reticle fixed to the center. This is partly why I’m glad I still have my GameCube copies of the first two, and have never tried to play the wii ports of those games. The story is ok, but the control scheme, and some other puzzles that I didn’t care for, I just couldn’t get past to revisit the game.

[@stevenmorris2234]

I prefer the 1st 2 as well. I don't like using the Wii remote in my hand and moving it around. I just want to use a game controller not a Wii remote. Is it possible to buy a regular Wii controller to use instead. Then to use a Wii remote?

[@mariotron8718]

Also the drawing was made on deviantart in 2012 made by fryguy64

[@KNJfan]

I was the opposite, I love all prime games, but played 3 the most... so much it killed my wii :|

[@darksyner7682]

When you mentioned the lack of encounters with dark samus I thought you would bring up Fusion and how the encounters with SA-X really demonstrated the power gap between Samus and the SA-X.

[@Screwy]

Funny enough, I've been thinking lately on how I had a lot of fun with Prime 3 when it first came out, yet I never once replayed it (despite Prime 1 being my GOAT and having numerous plays of it). This video did quite a good job of answering that question of why I haven't done it myself, though I almost want to go back to it just to see if there's other points I forgot about. For example, I remember there being this one escort mission where you need to transport a special GFed squad, and I found it easy to get 100% on back then but I dunno if it's annoying now.

[@cybermark4732]

I knew I wasn’t crazy for thinking it is the weakest in the trilogy!

[@sammygorilla8688]

It's ok.just let the chozo fix the game. Bird Magic.

[@Hammudiii]

Hm i liked most of the soundtracks especially Bryyos main theme

[@davidsterling7570]

While I personally find 3 the easiest to replay more than a couple times, I really enjoyed this video and agreed with most all of it. My biggest difference is that the more ambient music is def disappointing but better lends itself to replays by being less intrusive. Also, loved the use of Custom Robo's soundtrack; when the gearing up music started I was ecstatic!

[@RogueTabaxi]

I love that we share the same opinions on Prime 3. Im curious now as to what your opinions on Other M are.

[@theeyesore9885]

I like how your that fan who makes theories that makes kind of like alternate endings

[@KARS_K]

Oh so that's where they got Dark Samus' victory animation

[@deangel9128]

Lol when I saw that for the first time I was so excited to know where that was from😂

[@MetroidKing790]

3 is my favorite, the most dissapointing one to me is echoes

[@NixiShavalMusic]

What!!!!!?????? NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@NixiShavalMusic]

Also first everyone else shut the fuck up

[@AlexRodriguez-oo9yu]

random productions Damn, preemptive strike. Really shut me down...0

[@DissyIV]

100% agree with the critiques in this video. Prime 3 is the weakest in the trilogy without a doubt (imo) but it not a bad game by any means. Personally my favorite has always been Prime 2. I still enjoy Prime 3 though...just not as much as the other two games.

[@awsome_zman]

Speaking of the Phazon Mines, when I got to the Phazon Mines during my first playthrough of Metroid Prime, the music itself kind of freaked me out so much that I stopped playing the game for a while. I was around fourteen and I feel like a coward XD. On a much, much more relevant topic, great video and I really enjoy your videos!

[@jonahsnethen8782]

gandrayda was my favorite of the 3 other hunters because of her shapeshifting ability. on my first playthrough i was anticipating what she would turn into for the fight and how difficult of a boss she'd be in comparison to the other ones (which were very easy) but it was literally just shooting her in her normal form as she flipped and spun around. and when she occasionally changed into like 1 of 4 other enemies you already fought and all you have to do is keep shooting at that enemies weak spot. she can literally change into whatever she wants whenever she wants. it was such a hugely missed opportunity for an amazing and challenging bossfight and it still makes me salty that they only used Ghor, Rundas and like 1 or 2 other enemies and samus for the entire fight which was very long and boring (with my thumb always cramping up towards the end)

[@hehemhem]

What i thing would be awsome is if there where Enymes or Zones that try to Lock you in Hypermode to corroupt you (simmlare to Phaze).

[@Jdudec367]

honestly I kinda hate that chykka fight it was stupidly annoying to hit those dang wings I eventually ran out of ammo and had to use normal shots it kept on switching forms and it just took way to long