Why Is Red So Strong? - Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal! Heart Gold & Soul Silver

[@AkaiAzul]

Why is Red so strong? Because he spends less time talking and more time doing.

[@ace-trainer-aj]

Easy answer, we level grinded in Kanto before the Johto games were released.

[@alucard8433]

Its obvious he used the infinite rare candy cheat by running from Missingno with a Rare Candy in his 6th slot.

[@The_Fancho]

@@alucard8433 that makes sense

[@nazz2406]

N traded them right over! Lol. Unfortunately I didnt have another gameboy to do it back then. I do a lot of leveling up before some battles like the elite 4. I'm playing heart hold and I'm getting my team to 55 before I challenge the elite 4. I will crush them and red again like I did in the origional so many years ago.

[@TRUECEOofGaming]

True

[@matsrobertolsen2350]

Fnaf

[@melskunk]

The last time I clicked this fast, it was to give my rival a rude name

[@azuregamer3497]

I still remember my first time fighting Red as a kid. I was playing Crystal at the time and when I went up Mt. Silver and saw Red I didn't know it was him at first and thought he was a normal NPC who will give me some cool item. When I went to talk to him I was surprised that it became a battle, then the music kicked in giving me chills as it played the champions music and not fully understanding what I got myself into. When I saw Red I was speechless then became very excited as I couldn't believe that I was about to fight my player character from Red and Yellow Version. I send out my Lv 65 Feraligatr thinking I was going to destroy his team but when he sent out his Lv 81 Pikachu time felt liked it stopped as I became slack-jawed of how OP he was as Red proceeds to destroy my team when I battled him.

[@azuregamer3497]

@BlackButterCrunch Possibly, I was a kid after all. My thoughts were probably on the lines of what pokemon looked cool. I do like to give myself a little props for beating the game normally and going through Kanto.

[@AnGelus04]

😄 seeing the character you formally controlled coming back as a bad ass. Must've felt crazy.

[@AssassinKirk29]

“... ... ... ... ... ... Words are unnecessary” Red 2020

[@Dusxio]

You know, the level jump makes sense in a way. Red left to go grind. He's been grinding. Everyone else has been working and doing their jobs. Blue running a gym, Koga stepping up to the elite four. He's been grinding. And now the new champion finds the previous champion taking a breather before his next grind.

[@kirara2516]

It's amazing. The end of the video when Veronica Taylor did her impression, my mind instantly screamed: "Ash?!" A generation may have grown up with someone else as Ash now, but I will never ever forget how awesome he sounded back then.

[@xrosss3146]

What about a "Why is Lurantis so strong?". Always struggle against that trial no matter how I tackle it.

[@DReivenn55]

Healing played a part. I struggled with Togedamaru some too. Cause stat boosts and spikey shield.

[@fluffykitsune2864]

Thats why i brout my spare shiny heatran after 5 tris i said screw this and used it kept loossing cuss that castform it calls is a troll uses sunny day then all dem crits start to happen.

[@TheTdroid]

You can pick up the Flying Z gem after beating the first Grand Trial, whichs allows anything with a decent attack stat and Flying STAB to OHKO. Hawlucha is a reliable pick, as is Gyarados in USUM because Bounce is available at one of the beaches. Or, you know, let it set up Sunny Day before having Torracat use the Z Fire move. That works too =)

[@fluffykitsune2864]

@@TheTdroid i know but i alwas do the trials whith only stater and 1 op mon for back up plus i like to toy whith the trial mon and learn all dem moves.plus i alwas pick poploi cuss it is so cute but bye that time in game i am primrarena and have ice beam.

[@JayceCH.]

Every starter has a super effective move that will atleast 2HKO Lurantis, so..

[@gamingxmachina6718]

If i rember correctly there is a glitch in the sequels that can get you all starters. All you do is save before choosing your starter play the game without saving till you catch a pokemon. Catch the pokemon and put your starter in the pc. Change boxes and when it says saving dont turn off the power reset the game and you should still have the starter in your pc. Reatarting puts you back to the point of choosing your starter so you can do it another time and get all 3 starters

[@morrigankasa570]

Yep also can be used to help get all the Eeveelutions and multiple TMs of some kinds:)

[@jeffbrownstain]

Basic cloning glitch from gen 1 & 2. Was pretty popular info on the playground back in the day.

[@chrisclack4258]

i only remember that glitch working for pokemon crystal only

[@professortrickroom3777]

Happy 24th birthday to the franchise that made me the man I am today: Pokémon! I have experienced every generation (except 8, for academic reasons) and all of them are amazing in their own ways. Thank you for bringing this wonderful series to life, Nintendo and GameFreak.

[@thefilmrookie3099]

Yeah. I can’t afford a Nintendo switch.

[@E-Eyes]

Red is definitely my favorite trainer. He is so powerful and serious and I love it.

[@devilgirl7054]

Me too

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

6:58 Actually, he does have a counter to Togetic: Pikachu.

[@LifeofaMissouriTeen]

Is the gold and silver Red really more difficult than in the remakes? HGSS Red's team is 7 levels higher, has permanent hail, half his team can spam blizzard in said hail, his Pikachu holds a Light Ball doubling it's offenses and overall has more coverage on each of his mons.

[@fangzntalonz]

NovaMango honestly probably, it was way easier to have a better team in HGSS than it was in GSC

[@ssjjshawn]

Yes Gen 2 was still Gen 2 not Gen 4. The stat Total of Red's Pokemon is effectively far higher in Gen 2 than Gen 4 thanks to the stat changed introduced in Gen 3 (exacerbated further with Johto's leveling), Gen 2 Espeon and Gen 2 Snorlax are entirely different beasts than Gen 4 Laparus and Gen 4 Snorlax, and the pool of pokemon in Gen 2 that can be used agaisnt Red is a lot less than in HG/SS so the less coverage isn't as important. Basically Red was intentionally set up as a Challenge in Gen 2's mechanics, as the intended Final Fight. Gen 4 Red was a callback and altered only a bit, but not enough to provide as much of a challenge as he was in Gen 2 (the other factors of Gen 4 also effectively nerf him, like better Pokemon/Movepool, far better level scaling, and the fact he was known about from the begining by quite a lot of people means a lot of people prepared for him far far more than his initial suprise appearance in G/S)

[@austinlim54]

God that gen 2 Snorlax was ridiculous. His snore and rest was such a wall

[@dontmindme9323]

@@austinlim54 I was just telling a coworker how I had to go get my Gengar out of my pc during younger days trying to beat that damn Snorlax

[@kellybirdrocks]

But Gold/Kris beats Red in the end. So they are stronger! But... It's Me battling... Well, Me. So.... I am the strongest. No matter who wins, I win. Because both are ME. Will it be me from Yellow or me from Silver? Who will win? The answer is me. I win. And I lose. Doesn't help that red literally has the same team I had in yellow lmao I mean I just had an eevee not an espeon cuz gen 1 but still pretty cool to me as a kid. I was like whaaaaaaaaaat how did they know? Thought my gameboy was magic.

[@nxlegend7526]

@@TotallyTrends manga is not canon, move on. Game is the canon one.

[@madhavilathakota7814]

Yeah but in the story you do not beat him it is postgame so it could not be considered cannon

[@nxlegend7526]

@@madhavilathakota7814 even in bulbapedia and other media, the only thing that being stated in there is ethan/gold facing Red on top of Mount silver and THAT'S it. They didn't outright stated who's the one who win that battle, is it Ethan/Gold? Is it Red? Or is it Draw. Nobody knows, except the game developers of course.

[@madhavilathakota7814]

@@nxlegend7526 yes that is what I said since the battle is postgame it may not be considered canon

[@nxlegend7526]

@@madhavilathakota7814 oh and also there's some interesting info in Bulbapedia that I found. Usually when the player avatar CANONICALLY beat a famous NPC like Lance then it is stated "After beating (Character name)", BUT in Red case it outright stated "IF Red is defeated" which boosted the ambiguity of the winner of that battle since they use "IF" not "After".

[@korbynwentzell-phillips426]

Great vid as always Toby thx for great content

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Thank you Korbyn, little comments like this mean a lot ^_^ Glad you are enjoying!

[@drifindoril1818]

I can remember vividly the first time I got to this battle, I had goosebumps I was so excited but seeing that high level Pikachu was terrifying :') it took me ages to beat him! Thanks for the nostalgia trip 😁

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Thanks for watching ^_^

[@adamhardy9727]

Gen 2 (and HG/SS), being a sequel, is why they are my favorite Pokemon games. The revisiting of Kanto in a new light and the final battle of the game being Red was great! I liked how challenging he felt. Having to grind in order to defeat him made beating him feel so rewarding. The grind didn't really feel like a grind because there was sense of determination, which is something that is missing from a lot of the newer games.

[@mishtamoose8308]

Have a great day everyone who sees this!

[@victiniblast]

When I was 10, in 2000, I loved Silver. I had a Level.100 Feraligatr before seeing Trainer Red. I didn't have much of an issue as I learned my situations and overcame them. Feraligatr was my buddy, my friend.

[@krx50]

Honestly though, I want to shed light on how thee was a total missed opportunity to do a similar thing to Red in GSC with Hilbert/Hilda in Black 2/White 2. Despite these games being sequels to Black Version and White Version, the player character from those games never actually appears, and is only referenced. It would've been nice to face one or the other depending on if you chose to be a boy or a girl

[@ewyna8409]

I would've loved if the BW characters were the League Champion instead of Iris, maybe depending on our character's gender like fighting the one who is the opposite gender of our BW2 character and whose starter is the one who's strong against the one we chose. I was so disappointed when i saw Cheren as the 1st Gym leader too, i really thought if he was a Gym Leader he should've been the last one, not the first one. And Iris as Champion was disappointing too, 1) i was really expecting to fight someone else like Alder, Cheren or Hilbert/Hilda, 2) she was so weak, that was not even funny... and 3) in gen 5 a Dragon Master only having like half her team as Dragon types was a let down too.

[@johannessguten2527]

you can do that in blaze black 2

[@johannessguten2527]

@@ewyna8409 volt white 2 is what your looking for

[@ewyna8409]

@@johannessguten2527 Are these fan made games ?

[@johannessguten2527]

@@ewyna8409 romhacks

[@JackVGM]

This battle is probably the coolest moment ever in Pokemon, I wish the new ones could find a way to create moments as cool as this

[@alexpine8295]

No one: The captions: hello poke mimosas my name is Bucky boo tabi’in

[@goddammitalana]

This made me laugh. Thank you for that(:

[@thepurplebox380]

I completely agree that there's an additional psychological challenge when it comes to facing Red. After all, you're literally facing your loved and treasured Pokémon that you raised through Gen 1. Would you be able to take them on? Can you overcome yourself?

[@craigmackie9935]

When he mentioned reds team was in the top percentage of pokemon so he is in youngster Joey's level of top percentage, damn johto has a lot of top percentage pokemon lol

[@jamaalpete9238]

I remember getting to Red with a team in the late 50s/early 60s and was SUPER SAAALTY cause first off I wasn't expecting him adventure wise nor was I was ready level wise

[@sixty9cuda894]

I think we need a video on why Greevil from XD Gale of Darkness is so hard.

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Offft big yes!

[@rbgn51]

The second best pokemon game ever made

[@TokuNorth]

i don't know if anyone realised this but the Red you're fighting in Gold/Silver is not Red from Red/Blue but Red from Yellow look at his team Pikachu (starter) the 3 starters (you get them throughout the game)

[@chrisclack4258]

well red could be borrowing the other two kanto starter pokemon the pokemon adventure manga does kind of do that mr Nikolaj Slente

[@chrisclack4258]

and plus i know A you tuber who completed the living pokedex of pokemon red johnstone or mr johnstone as i like refering to him as mr Nikolaj Slente

[@TokuNorth]

@@chrisclack4258 Ok first of all...no.

[@TokuNorth]

@@chrisclack4258 Ok? i don't see how that's relevant...

[@chrisclack4258]

and i am gonna be doing A living pokedex my self with appearly mean one of each pokemon in the evolution line in the pokemon storages system as i got that information from bulbapedia since i knew about the living pokedex but not how one does the living pokedex in till about A nearly A week ago to be fail nothing to stop most pokemon video games player from trading pokemon from red to blue so that is how that is relative mr@@TokuNorth unless you were referring to the pokemon adventure manga

[@cerebeluke]

Hey Toby! Since, as far as I remember there isn't any particularly "impossible" Battle in the 3rd Gen, it would be AWESOME if you made a "Why is Cynthia so strong?" video. Hers is, IMO, the 2nd most challenging fight in all of Gen 4 and second only to Red's. Thank you for all of your great videos, keep it up!

[@l4dy0c3]

Running into Red at the top of Mount Silver shook and unnerved me as a (pre)teen because I wasn't expecting to run into anything at the top of this mountain. I donno if my cousin - who was tag-teaming the game with me at the time - was next to me at the time of playing, but I'm pretty sure he would've been a little shook, too, but then went into hype and excitement. My lord, Silver is forever my favorite Pokemon game if only because it was the two of us playing together until he got his hands on Crystal. It freaked me out when he found new things in the Ruins that weren't even speculated in Silver.

[@gamewisdomgaming]

As you climb up mount silver as the music that hunts the dreams of every trainer almost as much as the piano that plays before you battle Cynthia as you make it to the top you find him ... He says and just like that you are in a battle with trainer red. Trainer red wants to battle!

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

The strongest red is the one in the bw2 Tournament mode that mode has made have to restart so many times.

[@nsg_kuunda4786]

I was today years old when I came to think "is Red's espeon a reference to Gary's umbreon"??

[@bluecomet8416]

Red had an eevee in the manga that could turn into flareon, vaporeon, or jolteon at will until it evolved into espeon

[@Orangerandomness]

i love how well these videos are put together, and how they're so digestible

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Aw thank you^_^ absolutly more to com

[@BirdKeeperToby]

More to come ^_^

[@gengarvenom1180]

I don't know why everyone thinks you have to grind for Red. The game is designed in such a way so that you never have to grind. People have this misconception that the way you beat Pokemon is by over-leveling your Pokemon to be strong rather than actually developing a strategy to help you come out on top in the end. It's kinda sad because this mindset lead Gamefreak to stop encouraging this kind of gameplay and just let you over-level easier in later games.

[@zabraknorth]

9:02 “Esepeon” 🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ 😂

[@bdel80]

You can get all starters: start game trade it reset game x3 and trade back over your starters from the other game and on 3rd restart game and choose the corresponding starter you didn't choose

[@SJrad]

mostly because of levels, but also a well balanced team when it comes to typings and moveset

[@Eramiserasmus]

Ah, I remembee getting thrashed the first time I tried to battle Red. Half my team was weak to Electric. Learned my lesson about type coverage.

[@chrisclack4258]

i am doing A solo popplio pokemon moon not pokemon ultra moon and and eventually plus bounsweet added two that solo challenge

[@drewalvarez8461]

Currently grinding in virtual console Crystal to fight Red and It. Is. A. PAIN.

[@kanekopoint4273]

Re battle cal every day if you can easy experience

[@SirDanwal]

I managed to beat him with a level 50 to 60 team of typhlosion, crobat and poliwrath so u just have to use the right moves. Good luck

[@kingstarscream320]

He was never that hard. I never grinded at all as a boy and I beat him first try.

[@thepokepoet9482]

Great video Toby!! I wish I could play Masters but the Game isn't compatible with my phone :(

[@scottatkinson9415]

The worst bit is you need to use different HM’s to get to red! So you also have to count for the fact that your team has to reflect this and possibly loose out on some moves too.

[@josiahlara7216]

I always liked your videos bruh. Keep up the good work, and stay safe.

[@nathaniellewis8096]

Really loving this series Toby!

[@TeddyBarefoot]

Great video Toby, gotta say Pokemon Masters is really great, I'm not big on gatcha games but this is something else, oh I know you should do (my man!) Steven Stone next, who as it happens has also recently been added to Pokemon Masters.

[@TheDeathmail]

It should be noted that back then, many kids didn't know all the type advantages... we didn't know what advantage bug or dark would have on psychic... hell, for Steel type, many of us only knew it was weak to fire...

[@Valnotersc]

I "knew" that ghost was strong against psychic in gen 1...

[@TheHotnessIsHere]

This is the video that got me to be notified of ALL your notifications!

[@morrigankasa570]

Don't forget the clone glitch in Gen 2 I exploited it to get all 3 starters and the breeding system it filled my dex and was fun battling with all 3 starters and the Legendaries. Also level grinded them all to lvl 70+ so was tough but managed to succeed.

[@floyd7401]

if you had crystal, wanted to be like ash having 3 starters, and knew about the glitch to get all 3 starters, you knew you'd have a happy playthrough lol

[@alexanderstilianov]

3:33 Battling new gym leaders with mostly old Pokémon.

[@TheSomewareMan]

In my first playthrough of silver version I really only used my Typhlosion for everything. I didn't really know what I was supposed to be doing to progress the story during the Kanto part (especially where the power plant and the radio card were concerned). So by the time I got to Red my typhlosion was already level 100. That being said, Red was still really hard to beat with only one strong pokemon and a 10 year old intellect. Good times.

[@Tony_AM009]

I like the look of Sygna Suit Elesa. Anyways, this was a nice video. He was a bit tough to train against. I'm glad that I had a player's guide when I was younger.

[@e-heromanny4348]

Imagine if in HG/SS Red’s team when you first encountered him his team is full 100’s and Pikachu had a Lightball.

[@Grey_Warden_Invasion]

Why is he so much harder at the remakes HeartGold and SoulSilver? I played Crystal and I remembered Red as being kind of a pushover. I was not prepared for the struggles I had with him playing the remake.

[@AmiiboFun]

Amazing video. Sad part about this is that Red isn't even out in Masters until tomorrow for EST ans he doesn't even come out until 10 for PST

[@ethernalinnocence9031]

I have mentioned this previously too. Unless if you already know and make preparations for the final battle. Red was meant to kick your ass in the final fight.

[@chrisfernan1]

My child right there. Born 93' owning a gameboy color turquoise. Owning Pokemon Silver............... right around year 2000. One of the greatest moment I'd have was playing that game from start to finish. No other pokemon game ever comes close to the epicness of Gen 2. Argue all you want. Maybe I'm bias but I also had Red and Yellow version and those were nearly as good. Silver, Gold, and Crystal are where it's at for pokemon!

[@DTyler172]

Imagine there was a way to register your hall of fame certificate from a previous game and then actually battle yourself...

[@_Banjo_]

Battling Red was so surreal considering it was yourself

[@JAMSice927]

I usually beat them at around level 50. I like to use the Eevee evolutions most of the time

[@DominicBoatwright]

Silver was my first Pokémon game. Good times, crazy how it all evolved over time.

[@GavvyDuncan]

Dont think I ever beat Red, just started over once I got to him. While it was maybe too much of a grind, I do like the idea of having a really strong opponent in the post game that requires a lot of work, skill and tactics to beat. Hopefully that's something that GF do again in future games instead of like SwSh where you can clear the entire content with a playthrough team you never stop to grind.

[@robertm5110]

Yeah when I first battled him and saw that Pikachu was at level 81, I was so excited for the challenge that was to come.

[@samthesoupman6385]

You should do a series theorizing what the other trainers besides Red team would be.

[@LunarWingCloud]

Red is still one of the most climactic, powerful trainers in the Pokemon series and I am glad he's made a return in some future games.

[@Douglas_Props]

1:55 to skip the 2nd AD!

[@QenaitheCustodianGuard]

His team in GSC is truly insane.

[@evanroldan9566]

Red Is Always my Fav always

[@TokuNorth]

Imagine if Reds team is what you beat the first game with now wouldn't that have been epic? and really show you were fighting yourself

[@bastionsea2829]

I don't think there was that advanced of compatibility back then. Now we could do it, but Pokémon is a strong franchise now

[@janrosa7243]

@@bastionsea2829 Heart Gold and Soul Silver could have tried it. Golden Sun was a GBA game that did something like that for its sequel. Since HG/SS came out at the time of the ds lite (still moderately existing) there was a chance that the gameboy cartridge for the Gen1 remakes could connect with the DS games and port your team in some way.

[@sproutitoutloud]

I think Red is so strong in GSC because presumably "Red" has completed the pokedex by the time you battle him in mt. silver, so if you the player also went and completed the pokedex, you would have a bunch of extra battles, elite four grinding, etc, and by that point you would probably have lvl 70 pokemon at least, so it makes sense that Blue's pokemon in the viridian gym are only lvl 58, and then it's up to you to go the extra mile and train for Red. I always loved this battle, and it was a total surprise when I found Red for the first time playing when I was a kid. I'm glad with the gen 8 games pokemon brought back a little more of that wonder and mystique that I missed from the early games

[@HedeccaTamer]

So I realised that the level system in Gen 2 would've been fixed if Lake Of Rage could only be accessed with a Strength puzzle (there because of Gyarados' thrashing or something), make beating Jasmine unlock Strength (taking the Strength puzzle out of Chuck's gym), then bam. It means everything from the Lake Of Rage onwards can safely be a good 7-8 levels higher, making the elite four end up at lv57-ish. Know what this means? Kanto's gyms can all be about 7-10 levels higher, same for the wild Pokemon. Keeping Red at lv73-81 would also mean he's easier to grind for but still not too easy. If the level pacing was normal, HGSS would be my all time favourite games. It's the ONE thing that puts them behind Gen 5 for me.

[@sophiecooke2839]

Here's a theory based on episode 15 of the Pokemon Sword and Shield anime: Gou's father is also Ash's father. Here's my explanation: Ash's father hasn't been seen in the Pokemon anime at all so far. I think that Gou's father at some point got Delia pregnant whilst still together with her and either got Gou's mum pregnant before or after this, depending on who out of Ash and Gou you think is the oldest. This would have happened whilst he was still travelling and training. I think that Gou's father came to some sort of agreement with Delia after Ash was born and then went to live with Gou's mum. He also could have just as easily not done that and just left Delia with no explanation. Then when Gou was between the ages of 0 and 2, Gou, his mother and his father moved to the city they now live in to live in. Of course all contact with Delia was lost. I think Gou's father took the first few years of Gou's life to find his feet then maybe got a few jobs before settling with the one that he has in episode 15. Then when Gou was around 3 or 4 he met his new best friend and her father the professor (don't know their English names). I think that this is the time that Gou developed his love for research and Pokemon on a whole which is why he spent so much time looking for rare pokemon. Not long after, Gou's father enrolls him in the education program with Professor Oak seen in episode 1 which is where his love for Pokemon and Mew grows stronger. Of course, he never meets Ash but I do think that Gou's father intended for them to meet due to their similar personalities and love for Pokemon. Skip forward to episode 15 and I think that the reason Gou's father didn't react in such a way in front of Ash is because he didn't want Ash and Gou knowing that they are brothers. He may have also told at least Gou's mum and watched Ash during his league matches, reminiscing of when he used to be a trainer himself. Apart from the obvious facial differences, Ash's hair colour, Gou's hair colour and Gou's father's hair colour are all the same. However, Ash's hair style is different from Gou's and his father's. They all do feel the same (if you know what I mean) and their personalities are also similar-ish, especially Ash and Gou's. So feel free to elaborate on my theory and extend it, criticise it etc.

[@MatthewCaulder]

Hey Toby! Something that I think would be cool to see, much like your series on improving Mythicals storys in the games, would be a series on "Making X Strong"; a series were you would examine fights that feel like they should be very powerful, but aren't for whatever reason and what you would do to improve them! As always, love the content. Cheers.

[@unwithering5313]

People seem to give Johto flack for being connected by Kanto which I find crazy; gen 2 was designed to be a sequel it wasn't supposed to be standalone like the ones after it to begin with Also, I don't actually mind the fact that levels don't scale as high; considering how legendaries are between level 40-70 I doubt many people (canonically) would really be able to reach such heights of strength (gyms 5,6 & 7 could be challenged in any order)

[@noahcarver6133]

Barry’s team in platinum eventually beats OG red’s pikachu in level. Then HG/SS came out and now that pikachu is the highest level mon

[@phoenixc6812]

When I was younger the only I was able to beat red in soul sliver was transferring my level 100 Palkia to soul sliver

[@Saroku1000]

Because he grinded at the Pokémon League

[@OldWorldGalaxy]

It's been a while since I last watched a bird keeper Toby video, and dear god his hair is amazing. What just happened? Did it receive character development?

[@hanbeihood3202]

Unfortunately, Pokemon Masters is still isn't available for users of 32bit devices.

[@MercuryA2000]

I didn't get into Pokemon until DPP, and I got leaf green as a gift from my cousin not long after. I really wish I'd gotten HGSS, because I never got the chance to experience the pokemon master as a kid. I would've gotten absolutely destroyed, not a doubt, but it would have been incredible finding him and watching my team fall apart, before I kept running up there to try and beat that mute punk. Would have had less of an impact cause the LG copy I got was with Leaf at like the second gym, and smoll boi never reset progress.

[@aboynamedmadi]

So thanks to Pokémon Masters, we now know the canon trainers are: Red Brendan Lucas Hilda Rosa Not sure if the Canon trainers for Johto can be figured out through dialogue since I haven't unlocked any of them. And since Calem is the only Kalos I'm tempted to say he's Canon, but I just couldn't find any evidence.

[@christianmoreno3295]

Pokémon Masters actually has nothing to do with the main canon. The caracters that we see there are clearly from different universes as this game is just a spinoff.

[@xepikhybridx602]

If I remember, his pikachu was also holding a light ball in that battle

[@ImVeryBrad]

Red gives me goosebumps every time

[@thefilmrookie3099]

I beat red with 20 levels lower Pokémon. I felt so proud as a kid. When I saw that pikachu I swear my face went pale. Snorlax was the only Pokémon I had issues with since my team didn’t have any fighting type Pokémon.

[@DuskyPredator]

Was it just a rumor that Red's Pikachu had a Light Ball that boosted its stats? Feels so long since I battled Red in Crystal, just trying to recall my team. I must have had Tyranitar, I remember spending a lot of time training him up. And I think that I remember finding his Snorlax a huge problem since it kept healing itself, and had to think of ways around Rest.

[@DirectorVibeChecker]

“Why is Red so strong?” G R I N D I N G

[@xxthemasterloquendoxx4221]

three years of level grinding I'm surprised he wasn't level 100

[@alchouinard6090]

I was able to beat Red back in my Crystal version with my highest level pokemon being a level 61 slowbro. As long as you play it smart with super effective moves and status conditions, the battle is relatively easy

[@SirDanwal]

I managed to beat him with a level 50 to 60 team of typhlosion, crobat and poliwrath so u just have to use the right moves.

[@alucard8433]

I beat him in Silver version, Hands down the hardest battle i have ever had in a Pokemon game.

[@alchouinard6090]

@@alucard8433 ultra necrozma was more difficult imo

[@alucard8433]

@@alchouinard6090 The difference between them for me was in Silver version you are at a major level disadvantage when you come across Red and this is back when the games first came out and the internet was still relatively new so you could not look up guides to games like you can now. So you were not expecting to just have a fight against Red at the end of the game. Ultra Necrozma was a hard fight but i beat it first try mainly because the Exp Share. Had it not been for the Exp Share i might have been at a major level disadvantage at that point in the game but i never felt under leveled in USUM.

[@kanekopoint4273]

Some hard counters can be caught early in game. Magneton for blastoise and archanine for venusaur poliwrath for charizard and snorlax and to finish tyranitar for Pikachu and espeon

[@kanekopoint4273]

With maybe a ursaring and scyther

[@funkyzebra8405]

What would your team as a gym leader or a champion be?

[@kristhebrownie]

My first time playing silver, I had no idea red was up there so I was just in the low 60s after beating the Elite 4 a few times. I barely managed to win first try thanks to a few lucky crits.

[@helio-sama178]

loved the hair style! =)

[@ariesstorm9577]

Hi Bird Keeper Toby, not sure if you’ve done this or not but could you make canon teams for the protagonists based on story and the characters’ personalities?

[@vinniequick]

What if the console scanned your gen 1 game abs took the team you have/had you at that time levels, moves and name that would have been epic Also if you had the same name on both then would be OG whatever name and just normal your old save name if different

[@DReivenn55]

I never knew that Red was the father of gen 3's weather hacks. And how tough he was back in the day. Cause Cynthia was the toughest for me by far aside of Whitney. And then also Wallace (but that was because Milotic and Ludicolo and a very tanky Wishcash were on his team. and all the sheer amount of double team spams in gen 3. Particularly with Sydney and Drake leading to Wallace. Wally, Drake, Sydney and Juan frustrated me because of double team paeticularly on Kingra because it's only full weakness back then was dragon. Also I wish it'd let me play Masters.

[@bobkelley1497]

Steven at the end of Emerald

[@Ossuts]

I love all about the battle against Red, against your past self, you have to beat the wall that you yourself build, you have to go beyond yourself, idk is so poetic... P.D: Sorry for bad english :c P:D: Happy #PokemonDay Toby, and to you guys

[@HedeccaTamer]

Also cover Emerald's Steven Stone. In fact, do a whole video about Pokemon final bosses and how they should come back.

[@ejokurirulezz]

Is that Esepeon serebii? then i do correct not to trust their mistakes. oras did the same with rebattling gym leaders, unova games did the same too. it's common in older pokemon games to have a hugelevel gap

[@regularshow92]

I found out about red kind of late so when I finally battled him it was kind of easy only problem I had was with snorlax because he kept spamming rest and regained health then hit me with snore. I had my feraligatr around 70 something when I first battled red and don’t remember the rest of my team

[@aznmayo]

Because he knows what they are going to send out before you send out